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| eridu | Is this an appropriate place to discuss Unity issues? I've experienced a regression upgrading to 14.04 | 03:09 |
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| eridu | specifically, the behavior of alt summoning the HUD on a 500ms tap __if no other key is pressed__ seems to have changed to any tap under 500ms; so now I'm triggering it if I navigate with repeated M-f's in emacs and similar | 03:10 |
| darkxst | eridu, probably best to ask later, when more people are around | 03:19 |
| eridu | darkxst: when's a good time/time zone? | 03:19 |
| darkxst | eridu, maybe in 4 hours or so | 03:23 |
| darkxst | most of the desktop team are in europe I think | 03:23 |
| eridu | okay, is it mostly the london canonical people? | 03:23 |
| pitti | Good morning | 03:29 |
| pitti | Laney: reverse-build-deps already happens; reverse test-deps doesn't, as that's slightly harder to do (you need to download and unpack all sources, as test controls aren't aggregated in a Packages.gz like index) | 03:30 |
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| didrocks | morning | 06:08 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 06:09 |
| didrocks | hey pitti, how are you ? | 06:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: quite fine, thanks! was fun watching the game yesterday evening :) | 06:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: and you? | 06:09 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm doing good! was fun to once again avoid watching any game ;) | 06:10 |
| didrocks | seb128 came late though | 06:10 |
| didrocks | his train was delayed by an hour | 06:10 |
| didrocks | so, I cheered him with beers when he arrived to recomfort him! | 06:10 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh, seb128 is in Lyon with you? | 06:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: and he didn't get up together with you? :-) | 06:11 |
| didrocks | yeah, he's coming for a week :) | 06:11 |
| didrocks | ahah | 06:11 |
| didrocks | you know him… :p | 06:11 |
| didrocks | I'm temptive to wake him up though | 06:12 |
| pitti | slack^Wsay good morning to him :) | 06:12 |
| didrocks | hehe, will tell him | 06:12 |
| didrocks | once he's there :) | 06:12 |
| pitti | 05:29:22 pitti | Good morning | 06:12 |
| didrocks | waow, I've been awake for 40 minutes only today :p | 06:12 |
| didrocks | but I went to bed late as well | 06:13 |
| didrocks | did you already run? | 06:13 |
| pitti | didrocks: no, not yet; still a bit chilly | 06:13 |
| didrocks | I'll try to force seb to come with us running :) | 06:14 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut! | 07:02 |
| didrocks | hey seb128! | 07:03 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks ;-) | 07:03 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! give a hug to didrocks from me :) | 07:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, done ;-) | 07:04 |
| pitti | \o/ | 07:05 |
| pitti | seb128, jibel: so looks like it could very well be GER - FRA in the quarter finals | 07:06 |
| seb128 | indeed, I was looking at that yesterday | 07:06 |
| seb128 | sorry for you | 07:06 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 07:06 |
| * pitti hangs his fan scarf a level higher | 07:06 | |
| * seb128 doesn't care, he can pretend to be german if France loose | 07:07 | |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, France is on quite a rampage, I'm not that optimistic for Germany | 07:07 |
| pitti | seb128: hahaa | 07:07 |
| pitti | although the German team did rather well yesterday; wasn't overly exciting, but nice in a technical and precision way | 07:08 |
| seb128 | but yeah, France has been impressive | 07:08 |
| seb128 | so let's see | 07:08 |
| pitti | more like proper craftsmanship than doing miracles :) | 07:08 |
| seb128 | hehe | 07:08 |
| pitti | although that only goal was really a piece of art | 07:08 |
| seb128 | I didn't see it | 07:09 |
| * seb128 was in the train | 07:09 | |
| pitti | seb128: http://www.sportschau.de/fifawm2014/video/videousagegendeutschlanddiehoehepunkte102.html scroll to ~ 1 min | 07:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, nice one | 07:15 |
| larsu | oh, a goal! | 07:17 |
| * pitti ^5s larsu | 07:17 | |
| larsu | :) hi pitti | 07:18 |
| tjaalton | how to disable HUD? it opens every time I hit alt+$num in irssi.. | 07:29 |
| tjaalton | google to the rescue | 07:30 |
| larsu | tjaalton: system settings / keyboard / shortcuts / launchers / key to show the hud | 07:32 |
| larsu | change that from alt to ... anything | 07:32 |
| jibel | mvo, hey, is there anything blocking the approval of update-manager and update-notifier into precise-proposed? | 07:35 |
| tjaalton | larsu: yep, found that.. ccsm didn't work anymore since these had migrated to dconf | 07:35 |
| mvo | hey jibel, I don't think anything is blocking, it just needs someone with the right permissions | 07:46 |
| mvo | jibel: to accept it | 07:46 |
| jibel | mvo, could you document bug 1333728 with impact / testing / potential risk of regression / any other info useful for the SRU team, then we'll find someone on #ubuntu-release to approve it. | 07:51 |
| ubot5 | bug 1333728 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Precise) "update-manager should support HWE EOL transition" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333728 | 07:51 |
| jibel | mvo, http://dmz-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/HWE%20EOL/ <- link to automated test, all red because it's testing your branch with the translation issue. Once u-m and u-n are uploaded to -proposed it should be green. | 07:53 |
| jibel | *tests even | 07:53 |
| darkxst | hey seb128, pitti, didrocks, larsu! | 07:53 |
| pitti | hey darkxst | 07:53 |
| mvo | jibel: thanks, adding this now | 07:57 |
| Laney | good morning! | 08:03 |
| Laney | happy freitag! | 08:03 |
| pitti | hey Laney | 08:03 |
| Laney | hey hey pitti, how's it going? | 08:03 |
| pitti | Laney: quite fine, thanks! how about you? | 08:04 |
| darkxst | hey Laney | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst | 08:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, good morning, how are you? | 08:04 |
| didrocks | hey darkxst ;) | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 08:04 |
| Laney | doing good thanks | 08:04 |
| pitti | pretty annoyed though that it's going to rain on Sunday -- I wanted to finally fly on a kite! | 08:04 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 08:04 |
| Laney | we went to "middle eastern tapas" at the veggie cafe yesterday | 08:04 |
| Laney | was nice | 08:04 |
| pitti | and got an appointment on Sunday | 08:04 |
| Laney | fried chick peas, who knew? | 08:05 |
| seb128 | sounds nice | 08:05 |
| Laney | with butternut squash | 08:05 |
| Laney | was very tasty | 08:05 |
| Laney | how's lyon? ;-) | 08:05 |
| seb128 | nice! great weather this morning | 08:07 |
| didrocks | (as usual… ;)) | 08:07 |
| Laney | haha | 08:07 |
| seb128 | yeah, train had a 1 hour delay yesterday, "as usual" | 08:08 |
| * seb128 blames didrocks | 08:08 | |
| didrocks | roh! | 08:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, so, robert_ancell doesn't like the new service approach | 08:09 |
| darkxst | Laney, seb128 so the display change confirmation dialog uses a signal and method from the C-api that is not exposed on the dbus | 08:09 |
| darkxst | seb128, how about making it a new u-s-d plugin? | 08:10 |
| darkxst | the big advantage of how I have it, is that cherry-picking upstream patches is easy | 08:10 |
| seb128 | upstream patches for what? | 08:11 |
| darkxst | seb128, display config and idle monitor | 08:11 |
| Laney | "doesn't like"? | 08:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-settings-daemon/xrandr/+merge/224548/comments/539755 | 08:11 |
| Laney | I wouldn't offer to do the work, but given that it is already done/in-progress I don't get what the cost is | 08:12 |
| Laney | the benefit is not having yet more forks of ancient code | 08:13 |
| seb128 | Laney, fwd you an email | 08:13 |
| Laney | okay | 08:13 |
| Laney | did he fix up the idle monitor stuff? | 08:15 |
| seb128 | not yet I think, he wrote on that mp that it can be done in a follow up change | 08:17 |
| seb128 | I guess he's waiting for us to decide which road to go | 08:17 |
| Laney | darkxst: sounds like you're backtracking on your daemon with 'new plugin'? | 08:19 |
| darkxst | Laney, I meant still keep a direct copy of the code from mutter, but use a plugin rather than daemon | 08:20 |
| darkxst | that way, u-s-d can have direct access to the c-api | 08:20 |
| darkxst | it also makes the dbus activation issues, a non issue (although I haven't tested that) | 08:21 |
| darkxst | of course exposing an extra signal and method over dbus is not hard either | 08:22 |
| Laney | so you could have u-s-d call the method to show the dialog | 08:23 |
| Laney | ? | 08:23 |
| Laney | maybe we could go with Robert's approach as it's nearly working and investigate switching to yours if you want to keep working on it? | 08:28 |
| darkxst | Laney, u-s-d already had the code for the actual dialog | 08:29 |
| Laney | what's the problem then? | 08:29 |
| Laney | displayconfig can't call back into u-s-d to show it? | 08:29 |
| darkxst | just the signal that triggers the dialog now, is in displayconfig, not on dbus | 08:30 |
| darkxst | likewise for the function to confirms | 08:30 |
| darkxst | and really I am not too fussed which way you guys go, just so long as the gnome-desktop transition gets unblocked ;) | 08:31 |
| Laney | so you'd expose the signal and the functions and hook u-s-d's dialog up to this | 08:32 |
| Laney | ? | 08:32 |
| darkxst | Laney, yes | 08:33 |
| Laney | let me put it this way then | 08:33 |
| Laney | if you're happy to work on this in the next few days then I do still prefer this option | 08:33 |
| Laney | but if you don't want to or don't get it working then we should let Robert do it the other way | 08:34 |
| Laney | do you think that's fair? | 08:34 |
| Laney | I'm happy to take "mostly working" and help fix small issues, but I wouldn't say it was at that state yet from my test yesterday | 08:34 |
| Laney | could be small things like dbus activation making the state look worse than it is though | 08:35 |
| darkxst | Laney, ok, I am happy for Robert to do it his way | 08:40 |
| Laney | want to comment on the MP? | 08:41 |
| darkxst | it was "mostly working" (apart from the dialogs apparently) but I haven't really looked at it all since March | 08:41 |
| Laney | probably rebasing on 3.12 would shake out some issues | 08:42 |
| darkxst | Laney, did you use gnome-desktop 3.12? | 08:43 |
| Laney | yep, said that on the bug | 08:44 |
| darkxst | Laney, ah yes, and I even told you it was probably 3.12 related! just ignore that comment ;) | 08:47 |
| Laney | hehe | 08:47 |
| Laney | feel free to come back with a PPA or current bzr branches or something that we can work off | 08:49 |
| * Laney sends a little email, cc-ing darkxst | 08:50 | |
| Laney | there | 09:00 |
| Laney | TheMuso`: sorry forgot to reply--maybe that does make sense | 09:04 |
| Laney | TheMuso`: It surely is upstream, just reporting a bad (IMO) user experience ;-) | 09:05 |
| Laney | pitti: (forgot to reply to you too) maybe you could save the test-deps into a database somewhere when you see them? | 09:06 |
| Laney | do you have a LP project for wishlist bugs? :) | 09:06 |
| Laney | s/a/an/ | 09:06 |
| pitti | Laney: yeah, that "somewhere" is the hairy bit.. | 09:06 |
| pitti | Laney: we'll have somewhat of a DB once we move to the next gen CI runner (then we can put it into swift) | 09:07 |
| pitti | Laney: but with jenkins, it's *eew* no | 09:07 |
| Laney | is jenkins the only state you have? | 09:07 |
| pitti | Laney: and the britney db | 09:08 |
| Laney | I thought part of it was driven by scripts from an account on lillypilly | 09:08 |
| Laney | but I guess this is exactly the bit that doesn't know test-deps yet | 09:08 |
| pitti | right | 09:09 |
| Laney | bah! | 09:09 |
| pitti | we thought about it, but implementing it without archive support is hilariously complicated | 09:09 |
| * Laney nods | 09:09 | |
| pitti | TBH, a cron job that regularly grabs the d/t/control files from XS-Testsuite: sources would be easiest | 09:10 |
| pitti | a bit like Contents.gz | 09:10 |
| Laney | I could run something like that on codesearch | 09:10 |
| Laney | that has the unpacked archive | 09:11 |
| pitti | right | 09:11 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1170647 something you plan to look at? it's quite an active ticket | 09:33 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1170647 in unity (Ubuntu) "Clicking on Nautilus’ launcher icon opens new window instead of restoring the minimized one when browsing external drives/locations" [High,Triaged] | 09:33 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, recent comments point to the fix for bug #753938 as creating the issue | 09:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 753938 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher - Open Trash window prevents Nautilus being launched when a user clicks on the Nautilus Launcher icon" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/753938 | 09:34 |
| darkxst | Laney, replied | 10:18 |
| darkxst | Laney, did you ever look at fixing codesearch? | 10:18 |
| Laney | not yet | 10:18 |
| Laney | i just wrote it on my todo list | 10:19 |
| darkxst | Laney, ok | 10:27 |
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| seb128 | Laney, "Don't know how to respond to inline comments" | 12:30 |
| seb128 | you select the revision in the combo | 12:30 |
| seb128 | then you have those listed and you can replu | 12:30 |
| seb128 | reply | 12:30 |
| Laney | oh yeah | 12:30 |
| Laney | I guess it was showing me the newest one | 12:31 |
| didrocks | desrt: larsu: hey, small question on the glib signals. If I send a signal on any thread, the signal will be received and handled on the mainloop thread everytime, right? (there is no magic to respawn that in a calling thread) | 12:48 |
| desrt | didrocks: unix signal or glib signal? | 12:48 |
| desrt | glib signals have no magic _at all_. they always execute exactly in place, and then return | 12:49 |
| desrt | ie: always in the same thread, and the last handler is already done by the time the emission is over | 12:49 |
| didrocks | desrt: glib signal | 12:50 |
| desrt | didrocks: think of it as a function call and a foreach mixed together :) | 12:51 |
| didrocks | oh, I thought it was handled by the mainloop | 12:51 |
| desrt | so your statement about "received and handled on the mainloop thread every time" is definitely false | 12:51 |
| didrocks | ok, so I need to do a idle_add() and then call the signal… | 12:51 |
| desrt | signals and mainloops have zero integration | 12:51 |
| desrt | yes. probably. | 12:51 |
| desrt | or g_main_context_invoke() | 12:51 |
| didrocks | yeah, making sense | 12:52 |
| didrocks | thanks desrt :) | 12:52 |
| desrt | note: be careful about which thread you dispatch the signal to | 12:52 |
| desrt | depending on what you're building, the main thread could be the wrong choice | 12:52 |
| desrt | (what are you building?) | 12:52 |
| didrocks | for UI interactions only | 12:52 |
| didrocks | I want that in the mainloop thread | 12:52 |
| desrt | maybe.... | 12:52 |
| didrocks | sounds about right? | 12:52 |
| desrt | what are you building? | 12:52 |
| didrocks | well, the developer tools, I have long standing threaded calls | 12:53 |
| desrt | if it's UI, you might already be in the main thread always | 12:53 |
| didrocks | and I want the response to the user to be sent back to the UI thread | 12:53 |
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| desrt | if it's non-UI then it stands to reason that maybe someone wants to use your stuff without UI | 12:53 |
| didrocks | so that the UI can display what it needs to display | 12:53 |
| desrt | like maybe one day you write a dbus/network service to handle these requests and it uses other threads... | 12:54 |
| desrt | anyway... you should probably use the async convention here | 12:54 |
| didrocks | actually, I just want all the responses send back to one thread, then, there is multiple backends installed | 12:54 |
| desrt | and GTask | 12:54 |
| didrocks | (only one run at a time) | 12:54 |
| didrocks | can be a CLI backend, a ncurses, a QML one… | 12:54 |
| desrt | take a look at GTask | 12:55 |
| * didrocks opens tab | 12:55 | |
| desrt | it basically gives you a very easy way to have some code run in a thread | 12:55 |
| desrt | and return the result to the "user's thread" when it is done | 12:55 |
| desrt | it manages all the boring details like threadpools, etc. for you | 12:55 |
| didrocks | oh, excellent | 12:57 |
| didrocks | will definitively have a look, thanks! | 12:57 |
| desrt | there's a lot of examples of its use all over the place in GIO | 12:58 |
| desrt | for example, in all of the standard classes like GInputStream, we "emulate" the async version (if the underlying stream does not support it) by creating a GTask and using it to run the "sync" verison on a thread | 12:58 |
| didrocks | interesting | 13:00 |
| darkxst | didrocks, did you ever take a look at the tracker MIR? | 13:04 |
| didrocks | darkxst: not yet, I was discussing with it with seb128, I'll give it a look in the incoming days, but tracker will need time to review | 13:05 |
| didrocks | however, once I'll jump on it, I'll go to the end in one shot :) | 13:05 |
| darkxst | didrocks, ok, I added a nautilus patch to MIR, that only loads the tracker engine for GNOME | 13:06 |
| darkxst | ^to the MIR bug | 13:06 |
| didrocks | darkxst: yeah, I saw that, I think we should have a gsettings option rather | 13:06 |
| didrocks | wdyt? | 13:06 |
| darkxst | didrocks, not sure it makes a lot of sense, only GNOME uses tracker | 13:07 |
| darkxst | and if people want to disable indexing there is the optional UI for that | 13:08 |
| didrocks | darkxst: yeah, but if they want to enable it in Unity? | 13:09 |
| darkxst | didrocks, that wouldnt do much unless Unity grows tracker integration | 13:13 |
| didrocks | darkxst: nautilus itself isn't enough? | 13:13 |
| darkxst | didrocks, nope, nautilus provides the "search provider" that hooks into tracker index | 13:14 |
| darkxst | gnome-shell calls nautilus' "search provider" | 13:14 |
| didrocks | ok in that sense, I think it still would be better as a gsettings in case another desktop environment grows its integration, but that's not a worry until this is the case | 13:15 |
| darkxst | didrocks, happy to add that later, and upstream would mostly likely take patches for that | 13:17 |
| didrocks | sure ;) | 13:19 |
| seb128 | Laney, what was the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1324618 ? | 13:53 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1324618 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Storage app list does not always show icons when they are available" [High,New] | 13:53 |
| Laney | ummmm | 13:55 |
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| Laney | haha oh here it is | 14:01 |
| Laney | uhh, yeah, thanks for pointing that out | 14:01 |
| * Laney runs | 14:01 | |
| seb128 | yw ;-) | 14:02 |
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| Laney | seb128 is on a triaging spree! | 15:53 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, reviewing the settings bugslists, lot of small things in there :/ | 15:54 |
| seb128 | Laney, like your click sorting stopped working for some reason! | 15:54 |
| Laney | yeah | 15:54 |
| Laney | that definitely worked | 15:54 |
| seb128 | nice to see people doing work though | 15:54 |
| Laney | i looked at that but didn't solve it, can try again | 15:55 |
| seb128 | like cyphermox adding some bluetooth new feature, Wellark and Satoris doing work for networks, Jonas updating the background screen | 15:55 |
| seb128 | oh, gatox working on the updates as well ;-) | 15:55 |
| seb128 | that one is quite tricky, we still have quite some UI issues | 15:56 |
| seb128 | (like the top anchors not being correct when the install button is not listed, or like the individual items that should hide the install bar when paused) | 15:56 |
| gatox | seb128, i'll propose that branch that checks for the battery befor installing a system update as soon as i can test it... having some problems with my phone | 15:58 |
| seb128 | gatox, thanks | 15:58 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you have your icon one almost ready? I was pondering doing another landing | 15:58 |
| Laney | yeah noticed it didn't fix everything, just testing another one | 15:59 |
| seb128 | k | 15:59 |
| Laney | ooh, close that time | 16:04 |
| * Laney makes one tweak | 16:04 | |
| Laney | there | 16:27 |
| Laney | not quite there but it's better | 16:27 |
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| seb128 | Laney, do you still want to work on it or should I review/land it like that? | 16:41 |
| Laney | seb128: I think it's okay to review it now and I'll look at the other issue next week | 16:42 |
| Laney | it only impacts one thing I have installed | 16:43 |
| seb128 | k | 16:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, that code is unhappy | 16:57 |
| seb128 | 2014-06-27 18:57:46,500 - WARNING - QFSFileEngine::open: No file name specified | 16:57 |
| seb128 | it dumps like 15 like that | 16:58 |
| Laney | wasn't that there before? | 16:58 |
| seb128 | let me check | 16:58 |
| seb128 | it was ;-) | 16:58 |
| Laney | not sure where it's from, mind | 16:59 |
| seb128 | yeah, I haz icons! | 16:59 |
| Laney | woohoo! | 16:59 |
| Laney | right I gotta go meet my dad for a beer (he's in town and I'm catching a train away for the weekend in 90 minutes) | 17:01 |
| Laney | happy weekend desktop! | 17:01 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks, have a good w.e as well! | 17:01 |
| Laney | enjoy lyon ;-) | 17:02 |
| Laney | I heard a rumour that didrocks has some sake with your name on it | 17:02 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 17:03 |
| didrocks | yeah, but my wife doesn't want us to mix sake and beers :p | 17:04 |
| seb128 | we are going to need it | 17:04 |
| didrocks | what a dilemna! | 17:04 |
| seb128 | not sure we get food any time soon | 17:04 |
| * didrocks is wondering between blackmailing seb128 or just tell that directly to Julie | 17:04 | |
| seb128 | they decided to engage in japanese cooking, seems non trivial | 17:04 |
| seb128 | roh | 17:04 |
| * sarnold . . o o O O ("how long could it take to serve uncooked fish?") | 17:05 | |
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| didrocks | it's real japanese food :) | 17:07 |
| didrocks | the one you cook, not the fancyness of sushi and mai | 17:07 |
| didrocks | maki* | 17:07 |
| sarnold | mmmm. katsudon. tonkatsu. udon. mochi. <3 | 17:09 |
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| Noskcaj | Would the desktop team be willing to maintain uhttpmock in ubuntu. It's a small package that libgdata needs to be able to build. bug 1327458 | 22:22 |
| ubot5 | bug 1327458 in uhttpmock (Ubuntu) "[MIR] uhttpmock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1327458 | 22:22 |
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