[05:48] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:25] <knightwise> morning !
[08:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Industrial Workers Of The World Day! :-D
[08:04]  * TwistedLucidity goes on strike in celebration
[08:07] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:09] <nigelb> morning
[08:22] <foobarry> copy.com auto upload seems poor :(
[09:01] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:16] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[09:32] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:42] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:43] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[09:55] <davmor2> MooDoo: is it bad when you resort to using claws-mail cause it's more reliable than evo or thunderbird :D
[09:56] <MooDoo> davmor2: ouch sir
[09:57] <davmor2> MooDoo: the sad thing is I like it it just works
[09:57] <MooDoo> davmor2: then what you worried about, if it works it works :)
[09:58] <davmor2> MooDoo: the fact i had to resort to using it in the first place :)  It was claws or kmail claws won
[09:58] <awilkins> TBH I mostly use GMail's web interface
[09:58] <awilkins> And Outlook. Because Outlook is the only no-faffing client that works on our work email infrastructure
[09:59] <davmor2> awilkins: I don't use gmail.  I have a home server for email and then work too
[10:00] <davmor2> and roundcube in trusty seems to be playing up for me so I need to dig into that at some point
[10:00] <awilkins> davmor2, For work we have Exchange behind some kind of XMLRPC / HTTP firewall gateway
[10:00] <awilkins> The webclient sucks (on purpose) on non-IE browsers
[10:01] <awilkins> The only other clients are Outlook and ActiveSync
[10:01] <awilkins> For ActiveSync the admin requires the ability to nuke my phone from orbit, so that's not happening
[10:01] <awilkins> IMAP doesn't work outside the office network
[10:13] <NET||abuse> hi folks, anyone tried new skype on 14.04 yet?
[10:13] <NET||abuse> was wondering should i install it or stick to the canonical packaged one?
[10:14] <MooDoo> NET||abuse: just try it :D
[10:15] <NET||abuse> my main requirement is i run 2 skype accounts, personal and work
[10:15] <NET||abuse> will the --dbpath option still work?
[10:17] <awilkins> NET||abuse, I'm running 4.3, `skype --help` lists the --dbpath option
[10:18] <awilkins> Overall my experience is that 4.3 has better audio quality (but not sure if that's mostly linked to improvements in their phone / VoIP gateway network)
[10:18] <NET||abuse> yeh, well, as long as i can have the 2 acccounts and it still works, i'm good
[10:18] <awilkins> Have some really  terrible qualuty  doing Skype -> Cisco WebEx calls
[10:19] <awilkins> Am told that I sound like I'm underwater, can only infer that the compression of Skype -> Phone gateway -> Cisco VoIP  interacts badly
[10:20] <awilkins> If only it was just SIP... don't think we'll get SIP gateway though, Cisco charge per minute of phone which is how they make their cash...
[10:56] <diddledan> is it lunch time yet?
[11:08] <foobarry> how do pci slots show up in lspci?
[11:09] <foobarry> same card, same model of server, different lspci id 00:08.. and 00:20...
[11:09] <foobarry> i assume this means the card is in different slot on the other server?
[11:20] <diddledan> foobarry: I think you're right - if it were a different motherboard then it would not be so cut-n-dried as that
[12:23] <foobarry> of all the parts of the curry dixons pc world carphone warhouse to retain, isn't carphone a bit of a misnomer?
[12:24] <foobarry> "Primary school in Cornwall closed as police hunt Elvis impersonator with 'access to guns'" popey ?
[12:25] <popey> hah
[12:30] <dwatkins> foobarry: perhaps they should have renamed it "cassette floppy disk ghetto blaster" ;)
[12:35] <bigcalm> He
[12:35] <bigcalm> h
[12:37] <awilkins> "VCR Blender World"
[12:47] <davmor2> popey: You never said you had access to guns
[12:48] <popey> pew pew pew
[12:48] <davmor2> popey: wow you hiding out in a church now :D
[12:52] <dogmatic69_> anyone know if its possible to make the first line stick (eg csv headers) in less / more
[12:52] <dogmatic69_> or any other tool...
[12:52] <dwatkins> you could split the screen with tmux or screen, I suppose, dogmatic69_
[12:53] <dogmatic69_> dwatkins:  not when I am on lame windows :/
[12:55] <dwatkins> dogmatic69_: well, if you will use Windows ;)
[12:55] <dogmatic69_> under duress.
[12:56] <dwatkins> I treat it like a toy, it has a sandbox and everything.
[13:55] <davmor2> dogmatic69_: just use head instead of less
[13:56] <dogmatic69_> davmor2:  nope, need the first line + 100000 lines after it
[13:56] <dogmatic69_> like 'freeze panes' in excel
[13:58] <davmor2> dogmatic69_: drop the csv into something that does that like libreoffice, ms office etc.  I don't think you'll get away with it other wise :)
[13:58] <awilkins> dogmatic69_,  : http://filip.rembialkowski.net/vim-as-a-pager-for-psql/ ?
[13:58] <dogmatic69_> davmor2:  seems it can be done with emacs
[13:58] <awilkins> Or vim
[13:58] <dogmatic69_> ah, yet that is what I was looking at earlier
[13:59] <dogmatic69_> thought it mught be something quick...
[13:59] <davmor2> dogmatic69_: so a proper editor then :)
[14:01]  * dogmatic69_ does not have enough fingers to use vim
[14:02] <davmor2> dogmatic69_: no idea what you mean it's only one finger you need most of the time :P
[14:05] <awilkins> Think you need two fingers to use vim
[14:06] <awilkins> But Emacs requires you to have the Twisted Monkey Hand of Chaotic Doom
[14:06] <awilkins> Or at least, that's what you end up with after the tendonitis strikes :P
[14:07] <davmor2> awilkins: use stickykeys then you are fine with one :)  For basic editing one finger it enough in vim :)
[14:08] <awilkins> Great, my window manager has decided to trap my mouse on the right screen
[14:08] <davmor2> it's just remembering to hit the esc key before :wq that is the trouble :)
[14:08] <awilkins> And to not respond to any clicks
[14:08] <awilkins> I suspect Steam
[14:09] <awilkins> Great, keyboard only window navigation 4tl
[14:22] <MooDoo> sorry davmor2 was away from keyboard
[16:51] <bigcalm> Anybody good with sed?
[16:51] <bigcalm> I've done this sed -i 's/\t/","/g'
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[16:51] <Laney> simon
[16:52] <bigcalm> That'll replace the tabs in a file with ",". But How do I wrap each line with double quotes?
[16:52] <bigcalm> Basically converting a tab separated values file into a csv
[16:53] <awilkins> The whole line, or just the field?
[16:54] <bigcalm> Whole line
[16:54] <awilkins> Ah
[16:54] <awilkins> erm/// another two regexes
[16:54] <bigcalm> Because I'm already doing the inner bits
[16:54] <awilkins>   s/^/"/   and s/$/"/
[16:54] <bigcalm> I thought it was but guess I got it wrong, ta :)
[16:55] <bigcalm> Yep, that worked
[16:55] <bigcalm> Ta
[16:56] <Laney> s/.*/"&"/
[16:57] <bigcalm> Humm, okay
[16:57] <awilkins> Ah yes, regexes are greedy
[17:58] <mapp> hi all
[19:48] <foobarry> looking for a savings account paying more than 1% :(
[19:48] <ali1234> yeah... gonna have to be an isa
[19:49] <ali1234> dont get a bond - they're probably going to put the interest rates up soon
[19:50] <foobarry> my savings account gonna go to 0.2% on july 1st
[19:50] <foobarry> why do building societies still do postal accounts?
[19:50] <foobarry> and why are they the best deal? insance
[19:50] <foobarry> ISA won't suit. this is the funds for my extension
[19:50] <foobarry> may be 6 months until i need it
[19:51] <ali1234> get a no-notice cash isa then
[19:51] <foobarry> britannia 1.65% looks OK, but they are dodgy innit
[19:51] <foobarry> how much is isa limit?
[19:51] <ali1234> i think it's £10,000 now
[19:51] <foobarry> this is for around 35k
[19:51] <ali1234> well you're screwed then
[19:52] <foobarry> inheritance from my dad :S
[19:52] <foobarry> not sure of risk in investing in britannia/coop
[19:53] <ali1234> deposits are insured
[19:53] <ali1234> upt o a certain amount
[19:53] <foobarry> "ou can access your account whenever you like by telephone or in branch. And as long as you limit your withdrawals to no more than four a year, your interest rate won’t be affected"
[19:53] <ali1234> just don't put more than that in any single bank and you should be okay
[19:53] <foobarry> ugh. internet banking
[19:53] <foobarry> yeah its 95k
[19:53] <foobarry> 85k
[19:54] <foobarry> banks are colluding to offer terrible interest
[19:55] <foobarry> nationwide do internet acct for 1.4%
[20:00] <foobarry> ah, 1.7% if u been with them for 15 yrs
[20:14] <DJones> Just noticed this on twitter re ISA's https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/482613620300587008/photo/1
[20:25] <DJones> Yay..New doctor who date confirmed, 23rd August http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p021r78j
[20:35] <foobarry> http://hexus.net/mobile/news/android/71585-amazon-giving-away-100-100-free-apps-sunday/
[23:54] <gebbione> hi guys
[23:54] <gebbione> i have an hd with two partitions
[23:54] <gebbione> one is ext2
[23:54] <gebbione> and the other unknow
[23:54] <gebbione> but i know for sure there is data there
[23:55] <gebbione> it is an hardisk i use in a cctv system
[23:55] <gebbione> but i cannot see the files
[23:55] <gebbione> anyone can help or suggest what to do