[01:41] <djbeirut> hi.. i have the latest lubuntu installed. and i am having a problem with usb devices not being assigned to ttyUSB device, any help or sugestions would be greatky appriciated!
[01:42] <wxl> djbeirut: what usb device(s) and what device file are they being assigned to?
[01:43] <djbeirut> wx1 it's a card reader called IDBridge CT30 lsusb shows: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 08e6:3437 Gemplus GemPC Twin SmartCard Reader
[01:43] <djbeirut> i am not sure what you mean with device file being assigned to or how to find that out.
[01:45] <wxl> djbeirut: so look under /dev/bus/usb/002
[01:45] <wxl> djbeirut: it should be /dev/bus/usb/002/006
[01:46] <djbeirut> crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 133 Jun 28 03:38 006
[01:46] <djbeirut> the file is empty though
[01:46] <wxl> do you have anything plugged into it?
[01:47] <djbeirut> yes.. i have a card in it.
[01:47] <wxl> are you just trying to access teh card?
[01:48] <djbeirut> yeah.. it's a card for a norweigan online gaming thing. looks like good old big simcard
[01:48] <wxl> hm
[01:48] <wxl> wonder if the issue isn't driver related
[01:49] <djbeirut> donno... found this though https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/foundations-bugs/2014-March/184055.html
[01:49] <wxl> try doing lsusb -t
[01:50] <djbeirut> http://pastebin.com/VgZg1BiD
[01:51] <wxl> note line 6
[01:51] <wxl> it's not using a driver
[01:51] <wxl> which is to say it won't work XD
[01:51] <wxl> you expect this to be a usb to serial device?
[01:52] <djbeirut> yes
[01:53] <wxl> you might want to google that device id and figure out what driver to use
[01:53] <wxl> IF there is one
[01:53] <holstein> or, ask the creators of the device for linux support.. if they didnt promise it would work, it may not.. its challenging when things done just work "out of the box"
[01:54] <wxl> um, yeah, that's a big ole maybe
[01:54] <wxl> anyways headed home
[01:54] <wxl> good luck
[01:54] <djbeirut> thanks man! :)
[01:55] <holstein> well, its probably not going to happen, but that is who definitively can support the device
[01:55] <holstein> all of linux and ubuntu and lubuntu are open and available for them to provide support..
[01:55] <djbeirut> they said it is supposed to work with linux though
[01:55] <holstein> djbeirut: ok.. what did who say, specifically? are you meeting the requirements?
[01:56] <djbeirut> buypass said that.. the ones who sent out the card reader to me in the first place.
[01:57] <holstein> djbeirut: share what they said, with the requirements, and any information on a driver they provide.. id be glad to look at that
[01:57] <holstein> though, ideally, if they provide support, i would ask for the support they provide for the thing they make
[01:58] <djbeirut> they say nothing about the driver.
[01:58] <holstein> djbeirut: ?
[01:58] <holstein> djbeirut: ok.. what does who say, specifically?
[01:59] <djbeirut> buyoass says that the cardreader which they sent to me is supposed to work with linux. they didn't say how but they said that it is compatible
[02:00] <holstein> djbeirut: can you please quote whatever who said?
[02:00] <djbeirut> http://support.gemalto.com/index.php?id=pc_usb_tr_and_pc_twin
[02:00] <holstein> djbeirut: if they say its supported in a certain kernel version, that helps
[02:00] <djbeirut> this is from the manufacture website
[02:01] <holstein> djbeirut: the link says "drivers"
[02:01] <holstein> http://support.gemalto.com/index.php?id=pc_usb_tr_and_pc_twin#linux
[02:01] <djbeirut> yeah from the manufacture yes. .not buypass
[02:01] <holstein> TIPS: Use the package manager from your specific Linux distribution to search for the libccid library and install it.
[02:01] <holstein> djbeirut: have you done that? ^^
[02:02] <holstein> !info libccid
[02:02] <holstein> djbeirut: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libddid
[02:02] <holstein> djbeirut: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libccid
[02:03] <holstein> ^^ sorry for the typo.. but, that should install the drivers that they say the device needs for you to comply with the requirements
[02:03] <djbeirut> just did that..
[02:03] <djbeirut> looks a bit different now under lsusb -t
[02:03] <holstein> djbeirut: that should install what you need.. not sure if its a module that needs a reboot, or what
[02:04] <djbeirut> http://pastebin.com/PEjvKNKT
[02:04] <djbeirut> i'm rebooting just in case
[02:05] <djbeirut> rebooted.. still no ttyUSB
[02:06] <holstein> djbeirut: i dont read anything at the site that makes me think that should be there.. what are you expecting ? and why? what is the goal?
[02:12] <djbeirut> holstein because i'm trying to setup this: http://www.streamboard.tv/wiki/OSCam/en/Config/oscam.server#device
[02:13] <djbeirut> and it is asking for device parameters which looks something like this: device = /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:13] <holstein> djbeirut: i would *not* jump to that
[02:14] <holstein> djbeirut: seems like you could ask a more simpler question with a more simple scnario.. i would want to know if the thing is working.. and being supported by the driver you literally just installed
[02:14] <holstein> *then* when the device is working, you can move on to the other parts..
[02:15] <holstein> the "sreamboard" may not be aware of what gets labeled, and how it gets labeled..
[02:15] <djbeirut> i don't know if the device is working or not.. just installed it and can't test it. but it looks better now since lsusb -t says that it uses a driver which it didn't earlier
[02:16] <djbeirut> "sreamboard" =
[02:16] <holstein> djbeirut: you *can* test it, though.. and should, and im suggesting by a simpler method that what you linkede
[02:16] <djbeirut> ?
[02:16] <holstein> linked*
[02:16] <holstein> djbeirut: sreamboard is a typo for streamboard..
[02:17] <holstein> djbeirut: its not a streamboard device.. so, they may not know how the labels work... if you are just blinly trusting that they may be correct..
[05:03] <ianorlin> join #lubuntu-offtopic
[09:49] <onla> anye good and cheap wlan adapter that works well or out of the box on lubuntu that I could buy from dealextreme.com
[11:57] <phillw> onla: there's a good cheap one you can get direct from china :)
[11:58] <phillw> 802.IIN wifi usb adaptor
[11:59] <phillw> (amazon have it from various people), takes ~ 1 week to arrive (I have several now that I know they are cheap and work out of the box).
[12:02] <melodie> hello phillw !
[12:03] <phillw> hi melodie :)
[12:08] <onla> I buy this. cheap and lot of reviews and works on linux out of the box for ppl, so I guess would be same with lubuntuhttp://www.dx.com/p/ultra-mini-nano-usb-2-0-802-11n-150mbps-wifi-wlan-wireless-network-adapter-48166#.U66v3HWSykA
[12:13] <phillw> onla: I get http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/251211328728?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108 as it has an ariel if you want to extend the range
[12:13] <phillw> that's about the only difference i can see :)
[12:14] <onla> I prefer dx because there are no postal fees
[12:15] <onla> oh it says psotage: free, but then some notes about outside uk
[12:15] <onla> never bought anything from ebay or amazon
[12:15] <phillw> onla: I'm sure amazon have US site :)
[12:16] <onla> http://www.dx.com/p/mini-100mw-150mbps-ieee802-11b-g-n-usb-wifi-wireless-network-adapter-w-antenna-black-117398
[12:16] <onla> I'm in finland
[12:17] <phillw> but, as mine shipped direct from china, i don't think it makes any difference where in the world you are :)
[12:17] <phillw> onla: that's the one :)
[12:46] <koell> phillw: :3
[15:54] <McErroneous> Hi, I am looking to disable ipv6 in lubuntu, but i can't find a ipv6-modul in the output of "lsmod" , like in ubuntu... . What do i have to do to disable ipv6 on reboot ?
[16:04] <phillw> Lucid-Gnu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/346126/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu
[16:08] <Lucid-Gnu> phillw: Is IPv6 firmly compiled into the lubuntu kernel ?
[16:10] <phillw> Lucid-Gnu: afaik, it is a module
[16:12] <Lucid-Gnu> phillw: then ti should work like in ubuntu, if you do "lsmod |grep ipv6" it is going to list the ipv6-module, not so in lubuntu.. afaik..
[16:13] <Lucid-Gnu> in ubuntu i would disable ipv6 by peventing the module beeing loaded...., by modifying /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf <- "blacklist ipv6" (add to last line maybe )
[16:16] <phillw> Lucid-Gnu: try what they say at that link. phillw@piglet:/etc$ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
[16:16] <phillw> 0
[16:17] <Lucid-Gnu> but i found , this doesn't work in lubuntu... , so my guess the ipv6-module has a different name in lubuntu, or may its a pack of moduled beeing loaded (without all modules being mentioned) or ipv6 is firmly compiled into lubuntu Kernel...
[16:17] <phillw> so, mine is not disabled
[16:17] <Lucid-Gnu> did it...
[16:17] <Lucid-Gnu> k..., sorry..
[16:18] <phillw> networking is looked after by 'core' it's not a flavour specific thing, so I've no idea as to where any difference has come from.
[16:19] <Lucid-Gnu> hmm.., i would like to know, too...
[16:21] <phillw> the answers on askubuntu are using sysctl.conf and not modprobe (and that is for ubuntu, not lubuntu). Therefore, I'd be inclided to go with that solution.
[16:23] <Lucid-Gnu> you know..., i am a oldschool type person..., i like to break things down a littlebit, instead of just doing what i am told... to do..
[16:23] <Lucid-Gnu> for the sake of my own understanding...
[16:24] <Lucid-Gnu> so i am a disturbing person i guess..., i like to question a lot...
[16:25] <phillw> Lucid-Gnu: have a read of http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/en/man8/sysctl.8.html
[16:25] <phillw> That makes it a lot clearer to me :)
[16:32] <Lucid-Gnu> "sysctl -a |wc -l" shows there about 740 different values that can be configured by sysctl..
[16:33] <Lucid-Gnu> wc = "word count"
[16:34] <Lucid-Gnu> "-l"option shows number of lines..
[16:36] <Lucid-Gnu> Anybody knows how to switch from one tab to another in LX-Terminal (Keyboard-Shortcut) ?
[16:45] <McErroneous> okay, i found it, to switch between opentabs (LX-Terminal) press "ALT+Nr" (of the TAB)
[16:46] <McErroneous> puhhh, was about to change the distro again...
[16:47] <McErroneous> or install another terminal....
[16:49] <phillw> ipV4 and ipV6 support is installed when the kernel is compiled.
[16:52] <phillw> the config file for the kernel is 7635 lines long >:o
[17:01] <McErroneous> ubuntu source code  (10.04) has more then 10 million lines...
[17:02] <McErroneous> DVD...
[17:02] <McErroneous> i think...
[17:03] <holstein> McErroneous: 10.04?
[17:10] <phillw> McErroneous: that file, is just the config file for making the kernel, not the release :P I'm currently learning thjings about kernel :)
[17:13] <McErroneous> to verify number the number "ubuntu-source-code lines" you could do something like "wc -l ./Ubuntu-DVD.iso" i guess...
[17:13] <McErroneous> the amount of numbers in the
[17:15] <holstein> verify the # of lines?
[18:21] <TeraJL> hi there, i've installed lubuntu then when i installed nvidia recommended drivers my screen gets all black (after flashing the login terminal)
[18:25] <TeraJL> i can't even change TTY, is there any way to access the lubuntu terminal from the livecd?
[18:27] <sydney> TeraJL: What do you mean? The live cd's terminal or the installed os'es terminal?
[18:28] <phillw> TeraJL: I don't have nvidia, have a read of http://askubuntu.com/questions/325971/black-screen-after-booting-after-installed-nvidia-drivers
[18:29] <TeraJL> sydney: i can't access others tty, it's all black and nothing works, i wanted to know if is there any way to atleast access the terminal from live cd or from the pc, so i can uninstall nvidia drivers
[18:30] <phillw> TeraJL: also http://askubuntu.com/questions/431244/black-screen-after-login-nvidia-driver-installation may help
[18:31] <TeraJL> but Ctrl+Alt+F1 is not working
[18:31] <TeraJL> on live cd it works
[18:32] <sydney> TeraJL: Ask your question on #ubuntu
[18:33] <phillw> I *think* you have to interrupt the boot, before the driver gets loaded
[18:33] <TeraJL> i'm asking
[18:33] <sydney> TeraJL: oops,i just saw that. :D
[18:35] <phillw> TeraJL: how comfortable are you with terminal
[18:37] <phillw> I can get your 'machine' mounted using the LiveCD and then you can use whatever instructions you wish to apt-get remove <your nvidea driver> is that okay for you?
[18:43] <TeraJL> im comfortable with the terminal but i can't access it
[18:44] <TeraJL> on recovery mode when i turn on network manager it gives me two warning and freezes
[18:46] <phillw> you can use the LiveCD :D
[18:47] <phillw> if that does not boot, then something is either wrong with the CD or something is very wrong with your computer....
[19:09] <rafaellaguna> hello
[19:56] <TeraJL> on the display settings i only get a very small resoltuion and can't increase it
[20:00] <rafaellaguna> TeraJL, did you installed the proprietary drivers? sometimes you get more resolutions with those
[20:00] <TeraJL> i've followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver after my pc stopped booting
[20:01] <rafaellaguna> it's just a fix for blank screens, your system is failing on resolution, right?
[20:02] <TeraJL> yes
[20:02] <rafaellaguna> what driver are you using?
[20:02] <sgdfger> OMFG
[20:02] <sgdfger> i hacked google
[20:02] <sgdfger> click
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> omg
[20:02] <sgdfger> lol
[20:02] <sgdfger> cliekc
[20:02] <TeraJL> nvidia,
[20:02] <sgdfger> \argermgnjeingr
[20:02] <sgdfger> ergnin
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:02] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> NOW
[20:03] <sgdfger> it's gonna sissperar
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> http://bitbin.it/CjVe7yH5
[20:03] <sgdfger> help
[20:03] <rafaellaguna> plase, operator, ban it
[20:03] <phillw> got to love k-lines :)
[20:05] <TeraJL> i've install nvida drivers and i get the black screen again
[20:05] <rafaellaguna> so you can't see nothing?
[20:06] <phillw> TeraJL: does your LiveCD boot? you never replied....
[20:09] <popey> hello!
[20:09] <popey> Does lubuntu ship with zram on by default?
[20:11] <phillw> popey: yes
[20:12] <popey> thanks phillw
[20:12] <phillw> well, with desktop installer, it is enabled throughout the installer. not turned on for the alternate installer, but is turned on for lubuntu desktop :)
[20:13] <TeraJL> the livecd boots and the resolution is fine
[20:13] <rafaellaguna> TeraJL, so using generic driver you can work?
[20:13] <TeraJL> the pc turned on now (15min later)
[20:13] <rafaellaguna> try to remove it and re-set nouveau
[20:14] <TeraJL> i've just done that
[20:14] <TeraJL> i think.. i made the first awnser (http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver)
[20:14] <TeraJL> the pc is working but it seems to be taking 15min to boot
[20:14] <rafaellaguna> and with nouveau activated it lasts 15 min boot?
[20:14] <rafaellaguna> does it happen with livecd too?
[20:14] <TeraJL> nouveau is very fast booting but wrong resolution
[20:15] <rafaellaguna> maybe you should use the nvidia edge ppa
[20:16] <rafaellaguna> which version of Lubuntu do you have?
[20:16] <TeraJL> 14.04
[20:16] <TeraJL> just installed it
[20:16] <rafaellaguna> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[20:17] <rafaellaguna> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:17] <rafaellaguna> This will install the very last build, maybe it has a fix
[20:17] <rafaellaguna> nvidia is really tricky
[20:17] <djbeirut> hi.. i can't make my card reader map to ttyUSB. the driver is installed and i can read from the card using pcsc_scan. any help would be appreciated.
[20:18] <TeraJL> its not being easy to convine my friend to use linux now xD
[20:18] <rafaellaguna> trust me, this is not normal ;)
[20:18] <rafaellaguna> Linux is very much friendly now
[20:19] <TeraJL> i've used arch / ubuntu / elementary / manjaro and opensuse on the last 2 years, on the exact same pc he is using and never had this problem
[20:19] <rafaellaguna> convinced a few friends, no problems at all, except a really bad taste using a graphics program, LOL
[20:20] <rafaellaguna> I'm pretty sure the Edge drivers will solve it
[20:21] <rafaellaguna> and you can "tweak" some things with the nvidia-settings utility and force more resolutions. I did it with my crappy monitor, and set it to 2600 (ugly result, btw), butthis was impossible with this tool
[20:25] <TeraJL> he is installing an older version, if it works its fine for me.. but if it matters , it is removing nvidia-331 and installing nvidia-304
[20:25] <rafaellaguna> and do what I say, play with nvidia-settings, and don't forget to set vsync to NOPE
[20:26] <rafaellaguna> TeraJL, you may need to install nvidia-settings as a standalone package, it's not included with the drivers
[22:19] <Ghark> Hey. I'm having some trouble with Samba. On both my desktop and laptop I've marked my 'public' folder for sharing, will full access to everyone, and set their permissions so that anyone can view content, change content and access content. However when I try to access my desktop's public folder from my laptop (or visa versa) I get a dialouge saying 'Failed to mount Windows share: Permission denied'. What have I done wrong?
[22:41] <djbeirut> -
[23:27] <phillw> djbeirut: I do not have such  a device, but suggest you look at http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?12,4546
[23:28] <djbeirut> problem solved. thank you :)
[23:29] <phillw> djbeirut: always good to have a happy outcome :)