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hamiltont | cjwatson: FYI I'm going to move my kickseed changed from launchpad into the mailing list as you requested. Please disregard my launchpad code merge request - I'll close it down shortly | 00:48 |
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hyperair | did i declare the build-deps wrong, or is apt bugged? | 10:39 |
hyperair | in banshee, that is | 10:39 |
hyperair | libgpod-cil-dev (>= 0.8.2-7~), libgpod-cil-dev (<< 0.8.3-2) | libgpod-cil-dev (>= 0.8.3-4ubuntu3~) | 10:39 |
hyperair | but when doing apt-get build-deps banshee, apt complains that libgpod-cil-dev is too new. | 10:40 |
juliank | Wow that's a strange dependency. | 10:44 |
juliank | hyperair: build-dep only chooses the first alternative IIRC | 10:45 |
juliank | But really not entirely sure | 10:46 |
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hyperair | juliank: that seems like the wrong thing to do | 12:19 |
juliank | hyperair: You might want to try with -o Debug::BuildDeps=true | 12:21 |
juliank | and check what that says. | 12:21 |
juliank | hyperair: build-dep does not use standard dependency solving algorithms. In any case, swapping the OR seems more coorrect. | 12:22 |
juliank | or do you really want to prefer the older version? | 12:23 |
hyperair | juliank: well, i just need to exclude a certain version. | 12:24 |
juliank | in any case, tools should prefer the first alternative by definition, so putting the newer one there makes sense. | 12:24 |
juliank | hyperair: or you just build-conflict with the broken version | 12:24 |
hyperair | the problem was that i did a half-assed port of libgpod to gtk3 which i reverted. | 12:24 |
hyperair | oh yeah, i forgot about that | 12:25 |
juliank | A build-conflict is easier to handle here than an ORed build-dependency from APT's perspective | 12:25 |
hyperair | alright | 12:27 |
* ari-tczew notices Mom is broken again :-/ | 12:28 | |
juliank | hyperair: If you want more detailed information about this, you need to ask DonKult in #debian-apt on OFTC, or wait for mvo to turn up tomorrow | 12:28 |
juliank | They know more than me about APT itself. | 12:29 |
hyperair | alright, thanks | 12:29 |
hyperair | for the time being i've filed a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1335614 | 12:30 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1335614 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt doesn't handle bar build-deps properly" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:30 |
hyperair | i'll just workaround it with build-conflicts | 12:30 |
juliank | Some build servers (I believe the Debian buildds) only consider the first alternative too, AFAIK | 12:33 |
juliank | But it's been some time since I looked at this. | 12:34 |
juliank | It creates more predictable builds to ignore alternatives. | 12:34 |
juliank | Does anyone have contacts at Lenovo I could ask about documentation about the charging control ACPI interface, possibly under NDA? | 12:42 |
hyperair | oh ffs, build-conflicts doesn't work unless i articulate it into = dependencies | 12:46 |
hyperair | so i need one libgpod-cil-dev (= ...) for every version i need to conflict on | 12:47 |
hyperair | goddamnit, why not just use the same dependency resolution engine when it so clearly works? | 12:47 |
juliank | hyperair: Ah, I thought you only had one broken version. | 12:52 |
juliank | Sorry about that. | 12:52 |
juliank | hyperair: Just try swapping the OR then and it should work fine for build-dep and automatic builds. People can still manually build if they have the old version installed | 12:53 |
juliank | In fact, Ubuntu build servers do consider alternatives too IIRC. | 12:54 |
hyperair | juliank: automatic builds seem to have worked fine though. | 13:06 |
hyperair | it's just that apt-get build-dep fails | 13:06 |
juliank | Yes, as said, launchpad considers alternatives. Debian infrastructure doesn't. | 13:06 |
wgrant | Launchpad doesn't exactly consider alternatives. | 13:07 |
wgrant | It always takes the package named in the first alternative, but then applies versioned constraints afterwards. | 13:07 |
hyperair | i see | 13:07 |
wgrant | So in this case it will work, as the two constraints refer to the same package. But in the general alternative case, the first one wins. | 13:08 |
cjwatson | ari-tczew: Should be fixed shortly, thanks. usbredir was busted. | 13:10 |
cjwatson | wgrant: Well, it falls back to other alternatives if the package named in the first alternative doesn't exist, which isn't true in Debian. (i.e. what's now sbuild --resolve-alternatives) | 13:11 |
wgrant | Ah yes, true. | 13:13 |
wgrant | But it has to not exist, not just be a bad version. | 13:13 |
cjwatson | Right. | 13:13 |
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LocutusOfBorg1 | Hi cjwatson, I'm not sure if I waited enough | 17:38 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | but will vtk automatically be sync'd or not? | 17:38 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | because your changes are in debian now, but the changelog is different... | 17:38 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | I wonder how the sync/merge works exactly | 17:39 |
infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: Packages with 'ubuntu' in the version aren't automatically synced. | 17:50 |
infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: Did a manual sync now, after verifying the diff. | 17:51 |
* jtaylor wonders if his tcl patches still work | 17:53 | |
jtaylor | didn't verify the debian package :/ | 17:54 |
jtaylor | (in vtk) | 17:54 |
jtaylor | neat they still seem to work | 18:04 |
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michagogo | !sru | 19:12 |
ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 19:12 |
michagogo | 19:12:12 <stgr aber (spaced to avoid possibly-unwanted ping)> that's something which needs discussion with the sru team | 19:20 |
michagogo | How is such a discussion initiated? | 19:21 |
* michagogo is trying to figure out how to move bug 1314615 forward... | 19:21 | |
ubottu | bug 1314615 in tripleo "Existing tripleo passwords files are not correctly updated for newly added services" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314615 | 19:21 |
michagogo | erm, I mean bug 1314616 | 19:21 |
ubottu | bug 1314616 in bitcoin (Ubuntu) "[SRU] bitcoin to be maintained upstream in PPA: Replace distro archive "bitcoin" bitcoin with an empty dummy package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314616 | 19:21 |
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