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hamiltontcjwatson: FYI I'm going to move my kickseed changed from launchpad into the mailing list as you requested. Please disregard my launchpad code merge request - I'll close it down shortly00:48
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hyperairdid i declare the build-deps wrong, or is apt bugged?10:39
hyperairin banshee, that is10:39
hyperairlibgpod-cil-dev (>= 0.8.2-7~), libgpod-cil-dev (<< 0.8.3-2) | libgpod-cil-dev (>= 0.8.3-4ubuntu3~)10:39
hyperairbut when doing apt-get build-deps banshee, apt complains that libgpod-cil-dev is too new.10:40
juliankWow that's a strange dependency.10:44
juliankhyperair: build-dep only chooses the first alternative IIRC10:45
juliankBut really not entirely sure10:46
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hyperairjuliank: that seems like the wrong thing to do12:19
juliankhyperair: You might want to try with -o Debug::BuildDeps=true12:21
juliankand check what that says.12:21
juliankhyperair: build-dep does not use standard dependency solving algorithms. In any case, swapping the OR seems more coorrect.12:22
juliankor do you really want to prefer the older version?12:23
hyperairjuliank: well, i just need to exclude a certain version.12:24
juliankin any case, tools should prefer the first alternative by definition, so putting the newer one there makes sense.12:24
juliankhyperair: or you just build-conflict with the broken version12:24
hyperairthe problem was that i did a half-assed port of libgpod to gtk3 which i reverted.12:24
hyperairoh yeah, i forgot about that12:25
juliankA build-conflict is easier to handle here than an ORed build-dependency from APT's perspective12:25
hyperairalright12:27
* ari-tczew notices Mom is broken again :-/12:28
juliankhyperair: If you want more detailed information about this, you need to ask DonKult in #debian-apt on OFTC, or wait for mvo to turn up tomorrow12:28
juliankThey know more than me about APT itself.12:29
hyperairalright, thanks12:29
hyperairfor the time being i've filed a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/133561412:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 1335614 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt doesn't handle bar build-deps properly" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:30
hyperairi'll just workaround it with build-conflicts12:30
juliankSome build servers (I believe the  Debian buildds) only consider the first alternative too, AFAIK12:33
juliankBut it's been some time since I looked at this.12:34
juliankIt creates more predictable builds to ignore alternatives.12:34
juliankDoes anyone have contacts at Lenovo I could ask about documentation about the charging control ACPI interface, possibly under NDA?12:42
hyperairoh ffs, build-conflicts doesn't work unless i articulate it into = dependencies12:46
hyperairso i need one libgpod-cil-dev (= ...) for every version i need to conflict on12:47
hyperairgoddamnit, why not just use the same dependency resolution engine when it so clearly works?12:47
juliankhyperair: Ah, I thought you only had one broken version.12:52
juliankSorry about that.12:52
juliankhyperair: Just try swapping the OR then and it should work fine for build-dep and automatic builds. People can still manually build if they have the old version installed12:53
juliankIn fact, Ubuntu build servers do consider alternatives too IIRC.12:54
hyperairjuliank: automatic builds seem to have worked fine though.13:06
hyperairit's just that apt-get build-dep fails13:06
juliankYes, as said, launchpad considers alternatives. Debian infrastructure doesn't.13:06
wgrantLaunchpad doesn't exactly consider alternatives.13:07
wgrantIt always takes the package named in the first alternative, but then applies versioned constraints afterwards.13:07
hyperairi see13:07
wgrantSo in this case it will work, as the two constraints refer to the same package. But in the general alternative case, the first one wins.13:08
cjwatsonari-tczew: Should be fixed shortly, thanks.  usbredir was busted.13:10
cjwatsonwgrant: Well, it falls back to other alternatives if the package named in the first alternative doesn't exist, which isn't true in Debian.  (i.e. what's now sbuild --resolve-alternatives)13:11
wgrantAh yes, true.13:13
wgrantBut it has to not exist, not just be a bad version.13:13
cjwatsonRight.13:13
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LocutusOfBorg1Hi cjwatson, I'm not sure if I waited enough17:38
LocutusOfBorg1but will vtk automatically be sync'd or not?17:38
LocutusOfBorg1because your changes are in debian now, but the changelog is different...17:38
LocutusOfBorg1I wonder how the sync/merge works exactly17:39
infinityLocutusOfBorg1: Packages with 'ubuntu' in the version aren't automatically synced.17:50
infinityLocutusOfBorg1: Did a manual sync now, after verifying the diff.17:51
* jtaylor wonders if his tcl patches still work17:53
jtaylordidn't verify the debian package :/17:54
jtaylor(in vtk)17:54
jtaylorneat they still seem to work18:04
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michagogo!sru19:12
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates19:12
michagogo19:12:12 <stgr aber (spaced to avoid possibly-unwanted ping)> that's something which needs discussion with the sru team19:20
michagogoHow is such a discussion initiated?19:21
* michagogo is trying to figure out how to move bug 1314615 forward...19:21
ubottubug 1314615 in tripleo "Existing tripleo passwords files are not correctly updated for newly added services" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131461519:21
michagogoerm, I mean bug 131461619:21
ubottubug 1314616 in bitcoin (Ubuntu) "[SRU] bitcoin to be maintained upstream in PPA: Replace distro archive "bitcoin" bitcoin with an empty dummy package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131461619:21
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