[00:01] <goatius> hey all
[00:01] <goatius> i am on my fresh install of ubuntu 14.04
[00:02] <goatius> i got my pci-e sound card working but the mic is apparently a bit quiet for others, any suggestions for mic boost?
[00:02] <goatius> hello
[00:03] <dkorras1> did anyone respond?
[00:03] <goatius> nope
[00:04] <goatius> anyone active in here?
[00:05] <goatius> anyone active on here?
[00:05] <KenB> Question.  If I install Ubuntu on an ARB based system, can I then install all the regular apps that Ubuntu has to offer such as Eclipse?
[00:06] <goatius> i am not sure anyone is really active on here
[00:06] <goatius> but i am new so i don't know
[00:06] <KenB> I'm not familiar with chat.  thanks goatius.
[00:07] <goatius> KenB, i had a question about mic boost, think you could help?
[00:07] <KenB> I'll give it a shot.
[00:07] <goatius> i am on my fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 and i am pretty new to linux
[00:07] <goatius> i got my pci-e sound card working but the mic is apparently a bit quiet
[00:07] <goatius> any idea how to get the mic louder?
[00:08] <goatius> the alsamixer mic boost isn't there
[00:08] <RaMcHiP> in
[00:08] <KenB> so you've been to system settings
[00:09] <goatius> yes, the sound settings i've looked at too
[00:09] <_Sigma_> hey, im having an issue with mpich2 on a cluster of ubuntu computers. is this the right room to be in?
[00:09] <KenB> sorry.
[00:09] <goatius> i'd love to help but i'm pretty new...
[00:09] <goatius> looks like nobody is really active on here
[00:09] <Monotoko> _Sigma_ - I'd say #ubuntu-server
[00:09] <_Sigma_> ok thanks
[00:10] <KenB> perhaps there may be a specific channel we should each be using.
[00:10] <goatius> perhaps
[00:10] <Monotoko> goatius - people are generally active on here, but it's Saturday night
[00:11] <KenB> goatius, did you check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[00:12] <dkorras1> hi all, can anyone please help me setup ifplugd so that it boots to eth0 and when the network cable is unplugged switch to wlan0 and vice versa
[00:13] <Monotoko> _Sigma_ - wouldn't mpich2's support be better?
[00:13] <KenBer> tt
[00:15] <mariorz> hey anyone know why a udev rule would not match for ID_USB_INTERFACE_NUM in 12.04?
[00:15] <mariorz> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1437794.html
[00:15] <mariorz> even though udevadm info says the decide has a matching ID_USB_INTERFACE_NUM
[00:15] <mariorz> the device*
[00:15] <_Sigma_> Monotoko: yeah but i dont know if they have a channel. i cant find my issue in their doccumentation
[00:16] <ddoom_> stupid question, is there a command lstat?
[00:16] <Monotoko> ddoom_ - there is
[00:16] <Monotoko> man lstat
[00:18] <ddoom_> Monotoko: command or only c function? question is becaue when I $ lstat     I get command not found
[00:23] <keir> is there any way to make the gnome terminal copy to the primary buffer on select? if i have to hit "Ctrl-C" to copy in a terminal i will explode
[00:24] <Daghdha> bye bye cruel world
[00:25] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. I partitioned a fresh  new computer C ( only drive) in three parts. now the C works fine . I have a ubuntu live cd and want to create a disk image of the partition and save it
[00:25] <Vivekananda> can someone tell me
[00:26] <Monotoko> Vivekananda - you want a disk image of the partition?
[00:26] <Monotoko> what do you mean?
[00:26] <Monotoko> and... as you can tell, Freenode is under a DDoS right now
[00:28] <z1haze2> can someone please help me with a shell script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7718912/ i dont know whats wrong with it but im getting a weird unknown option error
[00:28] <z1haze2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7718933/
[00:30] <trism> z1haze2: those ” quotes look wrong if nothing else, instead of "
[00:30] <sadpuppy> there all dead jim
[00:30] <z1haze2> alright
[00:30] <keir> Is it just me ore is the following behaviour broken in Ubuntu 14.04: Open a terminal. Select some text with RMB. Middle-click to paste. Expected: Paste happens. Actual behaviour: Pastes whatever was in the primary buffer (not what was selected)
[00:30] <mariorz> l
[00:31] <Beldar> Vivekananda, get a clonezilla iso and put it on a usb or burn it and clone those partitions to an external HD. C means windows partitions linux is sdXX
[00:33] <Beldar> Vivekananda, http://clonezilla.org/
[00:33] <fabricio_> oi
[00:34] <mariorz> anyone know if there is a timeout for programs executed with udev rules?
[00:34] <x_root> fabricio_, #ubuntu-br :D
[00:35] <Beldar> !away > away
[00:36] <x_root> any channel for ubuntu phone?
[00:37] <rsw> hey all.  running 12.04, will using update-manager provide most recent versions of libraries and shared resources (same as 14.04)?
[00:37] <Beldar> x_root, #ubuntu-touch
[00:37] <rww> rsw: No. Ubuntu does not upgrade to new major versions of packages after release, with some exceptions.
[00:37] <x_root> thanks Beldar
[00:37] <Beldar> x_root, np
[00:38] <rsw> well, specifically, does the acroread version 9 program run in 12.04?
[00:39] <Beldar> rsw, I have it installed all the way to utopic
[00:42] <rsw> netsplits strike anyone else as violent?
[00:43] <SchrodingersScat> rsw: rocky net-seas
[00:43] <Beldar> never see them here, hehe
[00:44] <tux_> Hi, i installed Linux Mint on my older machine, was ok, wlan card worked etc. I thought to then though try Ubuntu 14.04... Installed fine but wlan card not recognized and i have no cable. Why is this? Why does Mint work on this but Ubuntu does not?
[00:45] <rsw> i might be mistaken, does mint not ship with some proprietary and closed-source software like drivers and codecs, while ubuntu typically uses only generic and libre-licensed stuff?
[00:45] <Vivekananda> did I misss someting ?
[00:46] <Vivekananda> Monotoko: sorry got dc . guess I missed something
[00:46] <Beldar> tux_, Mints original thang was a few drivers loaded on installs.
[00:46] <Beldar> few more*
[00:47] <Beldar> Vivekananda, Yeah Elvis stopped by while you were gone.
[00:47] <tux_> Well, so i can't install Ubuntu then? As they are for only these "generic" non-propriatery stuff?
[00:47] <Vivekananda> hahah okay but help me out everyone. I have a ubuntu live cd and I am hoping to use it to create an image of a partition
[00:47] <Beldar> tux_, No you have to do the work, those drivers are available for anyone
[00:48] <tux_> why would i choose to do more work than necessary?
[00:48] <rsw> you could attempt to install the driver yourself, tux_, if tinkering doesnt appeal to you then mint is certainly the best choice concerning your old machine
[00:48] <Beldar> Vivekananda, Use a regular cloner like clonezilla they have a iso to burn for booting, there are a handful out there.
[00:48] <tux_> i'd really like Ubuntu... but i can't have it.
[00:49] <tux_> Mint installed and recognized all ok.
[00:49] <Beldar> tux_, Tell people who care golly. ;)
[00:49] <tux_> golly? what is that?
[00:50] <Beldar> sarcasm
[00:50] <Vivekananda> Beldar: I already have a usb flash drive which has a live ubuntu. I am trying to use it to create a bback up of a windows installed partition. how do I do that ?
[00:50] <rsw> tux_: i care, and might not get much like in saying this, mint is probably a superior distribution compatibility-wise
[00:50] <sadpuppy> god protects you
[00:50] <sadpuppy> lol
[00:50] <Beldar> Vivekananda, Not an ideal setup for cloning.
[00:50] <tux_> thanks, rsw
[00:50] <SchrodingersScat> tux_: seems you haven't really investigated what steps you would even have to take.
[00:50] <tux_> i go for Mint then
[00:51] <meetai1> Hello - need to install Ubuntu on a headless, keyboardless computer, without physical network, but with a usb wifi stick.
[00:51] <Beldar> rsw, That is an opinion and pure fud
[00:51] <tux_> i don't want to take any steps, as i noticed that Mint did all automatically.
[00:51] <Beldar> This is linux get used to doing some work
[00:51] <rsw> Beldar: if it ships with drivers ubuntu excludes, yet includes everything ubuntu includes...
[00:52] <tux_> Beldar, Mint is Linux too... and it's all automatical. Why would i choose more work?
[00:52] <Beldar> rsw, means nothing that is a dichotomy and a weak one at that, dichotomies do not exist in  the real world.
[00:53] <jefimenko> does anyone know if 14.04 generates an initrd that runs "btrfs dev scan"
[00:53] <Beldar> tux_, YOU seem to think any one cares here this is support not twitter
[00:53] <jefimenko> i tried setting up 14.04 to boot from a btrfs w/ two disks in raid1. it goes straight to busybox on startup after adding the second disk.
[00:53] <tux_> Beldar: sorry, i'm not trying to be negative. Just asked.
[00:53] <Carom> Hello!
[00:54] <Carom> Good evening :)
[00:54] <jefimenko> the guys in #btrfs said it will work if initrd does a btrfs dev scan
[00:54] <picko> Hello - need to install Ubuntu 12 on a headless, keyboardless computer, without physical network, but with a usb wifi stick.
[00:54] <tux_> I will return to try Ubuntu in few years time, when all works like in Mint.
[00:54] <tux_> i think it's a matter of time.
[00:54] <Beldar> Carom, no greetings needed, do you have a support issue. ;)
[00:54] <picko> anyone knows how?
[00:55] <picko> have been looking the guides
[00:55] <picko> difficult to say if its possible
[00:55] <picko> ideally
[00:55] <picko> Hello - need to install Ubuntu on a headless, keyboardless computer, without physical network, but with a usb wifi stick.
[00:55] <picko> ups
[00:55] <picko> ideally would be to install on VirtualBox first
[00:55] <picko> then move it to the real hardward
[00:55] <picko> anyone have experience on this?
[00:56] <picko> The ubuntu version I have now is Server v12
[00:57] <picko> the thing was: need to install Ubuntu on a headless, keyboardless computer, without physical network, but with a usb wifi stick.
[00:59] <jefimenko> how can i find out if my initrd runs btrfs dev scan
[00:59] <Carom> PLEASE, Someone here uses the UBUNTU PHONE ??? I wanna change my Android... I have a Note 2 N7100. Thx a lot
[00:59] <Beldar> !touch | Carom
[01:00] <Carom> Sorry!  Thanks !!!
[01:01] <Carom> Oh, have a channel for the ubuntu touch ? I already read this site but don't help enough
[01:01] <rsw> Carom: #ubuntu-touch
[01:01] <Vivekananda> Beldar: did  not get you
[01:02] <Beldar> jefimenko, Just a guess but make sure you are booting from the same disc as you were.
[01:02] <Carom> THANKS !  Good lucky for all
[01:02] <jefimenko> i still am
[01:02] <Beldar> Vivekananda, A ubuntu disc is not an ideal cloning disc, it is for installing, there are that are.
[01:02] <picko> ok, anywhere were I could look info on my issue?
[01:03] <picko> need to install Ubuntu on a headless, keyboardless computer, without physical network, but with a usb wifi stick.
[01:03] <Vivekananda> Beldar: okay . is there a wya that I can install an app on the flash drive disk itself that can create such an image ?
[01:04] <Beldar> Vivekananda, I have given you info to use, that is it for me.
[01:04] <Vivekananda> you mean clonezilla ?
[01:05] <Beldar> Vivekananda, Yes that is one, there ones specifically for windows and free, some make a mirror that is easily accessible.
[01:05] <picko> would it be possible to install first on VirtualBox and then move the hdd to the hardware?
[01:07] <pythonista> I am trying to copy a folder, but cannot seem to preserve the correct permissions. http://askubuntu.com/questions/461403/copying-folder-while-preserving-permissions-ownership-error-operation-not-permi
[01:07] <Beldar> Vivekananda, You want to get used to doing some research, this is easy info to find. ;)
[01:08] <sveinse> What do I need to do to install 14.04 on /dev/sda2, when /dev/sda1 contains 12.04 and grub2 is installed there? Omit bootloader config in the installer and manually edit grub?
[01:08] <picko> my main concern is with the wifi
[01:08] <picko> because its the only way to connect to the machine
[01:08] <picko> I would need to create an ad-hoc connection, as I don't have a router
[01:10] <Beldar> sveinse, Do you have a preference for which install has the grub control?
[01:11] <causative> what's the problem, sveinse ? what happens if you try to install it to there?
[01:11] <Elengil> well, i have to say im surprised...
[01:11] <Beldar> sveinse, In other words which will when a grub-update is run modify the grub boot menu.
[01:11] <picko> hi guys, anyone: need to install Ubuntu on a headless, keyboardless computer, without physical network, but with a usb wifi stick.
[01:11] <sveinse> causative: haven't tried it yet. in case there is something I need to ensure prior to the second ubuntu installation
[01:12] <Elengil> ubuntu setup somehow created a 55.5GB "instalation.iso" file on a usb stick...
[01:12] <Beldar> Elengil, It does not happen that way.
[01:12] <usr13> Elengil: Cool
[01:12] <Elengil> im still unsure what the hell i did to do that...
[01:12] <sadpuppy> god protects you
[01:12] <sadpuppy> lol
[01:13] <Elengil> Beldar, it did...
[01:13] <Elengil> i can send you the file if you like...
[01:13] <usr13> Elengil: How?
[01:13] <Beldar> Elengil, Lets get on the same page, is this a iso loaded to the usb with an app?
[01:13] <pythonista> How do I copy a folder while preserving permissions and ownership? http://askubuntu.com/questions/461403/copying-folder-while-preserving-permissions-ownership-error-operation-not-permi
[01:14] <causative> sveinse, I think it should be okay to just do an install to sda2
[01:14] <usr13> pythonista: sudo
[01:14] <picko> pythonista, can you check the permissions on source and then just apply them again?
[01:14] <Elengil> Beldar, it was with the "alternative" boot option in the offical install app
[01:15] <usr13> pythonista: cp -p
[01:15] <causative> you might want to back up the mbr first (dd if=/dev/sda of=mbrbackup.iso bs=512 count=1)
[01:15] <sveinse> causative: Yeah. My question is in line of: There will now be installed a /boot on /dev/sda2 as well. Won't then the two grubs be competing over installing themselves over the MBR
[01:15] <pythonista> picko: that also fails (see the link for what I tried)
[01:16] <Beldar> Elengil, what is the alternative boot option?
[01:16] <Elengil> im almost afraid to think about what it would have done if i had been using the 2 TB external i was intending to use for media storage...
[01:16] <causative> well first sveinse I'm not sure it will install a second grub, it might ask you if you want to...
[01:16] <usr13> pythonista: What is the filesystem of the partition newpath is on?
[01:16] <causative> but even if it does that doesn't seem like a problem
[01:16] <causative> the mbr would just point to the second grub instead of the first, so the first would be inactive
[01:17] <pythonista> usr13: file starts on ext4 and goes to fat32
[01:17] <Elengil> Beldar, when trying to install ubuntu, it game me an option to either just reboot and hope it loaded (it hasnt so far) or to try an "alternative" boot method...
[01:17] <Beldar> causative, YOu are guessing I asked this user pertinent questions, and they are following you as it seems understandable.
[01:17] <usr13> pythonista: There is  your problem.
[01:17] <Beldar> Elengil, a Wubi?
[01:18] <Elengil> sadly yes...
[01:18] <sveinse> causative: No, it does not. And grub2 has some os detect script in it, so perhaps it finds the first ubuntu automatically. Let's go ahead and try!
[01:18] <pythonista> usr13: I have nothing on the second drive, do I need to reformat it?
[01:18] <usr13> pythonista: You know about fat32, right?  You know the differences between ext4 and fat32?
[01:18] <pythonista> usr13: Not exactly
[01:18] <usr13> pythonista: Yes, (if you want permissions and ownership preserved).
[01:18] <Elengil> i know it has issues, but this result surprised even me...
[01:19] <Beldar> Elengil, A wubi has a max of 40 gigs, and is a bad idea, not supported just per the developers words a try out install towards a dual boot if you like it.
[01:19] <usr13> pythonista: But if the fat32 disk is not a perminate place for the data, don't bother.
[01:19] <Beldar> Elengil, That be a user error bro.
[01:19] <pythonista> usr13: it will be the permanent place for the data
[01:20] <Elengil> all i did was tell it to try the alternative (since the normal one didnt seem to be working) and let it play itself out
[01:20] <usr13> *parmanent* Thanks for correction.
[01:20] <Beldar> Elengil, What is your end goal?
[01:21] <Elengil> um, a media center, for doing basic stuffs on a pc connected to the family tv
[01:21] <Beldar> Elengil, This computer havd a HDMI port?
[01:21] <Beldar> have*
[01:21] <usr13> Elengil: raspberry-pi?
[01:22] <Elengil> not quite that techy here usr13 :P
[01:22] <Elengil> and trying to repurpose a moderately older pc...
[01:23] <usr13> Elengil: Cool
[01:23] <Elengil> and was planning on using a usb to hdmi converter (which is listed as linux compatible)
[01:24] <usr13> Elengil: Good project.  Keep us posted.
[01:24] <Elengil> its being a pain in the butt, but its a fun challenge
[01:30] <Omega9> hi guys
[01:30] <dotDeb> hi
[01:35] <whitepowder> So, i've gotten my little preseeded install usb stick working, but when i run the full-upgrade at the end, i'd like to save the debs downloaded (/target/var/cache/apt/archives/) Is there a good way to do this? I'd like to put them into the /pool tree on the usb stick
[01:36] <whitepowder> When do they get deleted?
[01:36] <vrement> hey hey hey... just one question: Trisquel (fully open source and free, gratis Linux OS) recognized my broadcom wlan, Ubuntu does not! How can this be?
[01:37] <dotDeb> vrenent that is very strange
[01:37] <dotDeb> though stallman would be very happy :P
[01:37] <whitepowder> That lunatic is still alive?
[01:37] <Omega9> vrement: loadable kernel module
[01:38] <dotDeb> whitepowder very much so
[01:38] <whitepowder> Dang i was hoping linux would finally be taken seriously
[01:38] <vrement> Yes, i thought so too... can you take this info forward in Ubuntu community? My machine is old Acer Travelmate 7520
[01:38] <whitepowder> vrement: More than likely you need to enable nonfree firmware and all will be OK
[01:39] <dotDeb> whitepowder cmon give him SOME credit, no?
[01:40] <vrement> whitepowder: no no, in Trisquel, wlan card is recognized right on. As i try to install Ubuntu,,, no.
[01:40] <dotDeb> my computer runs Linux with a deblobbed kernel and no nonfree drivers
[01:40] <whitepowder> vrement: Again, more than likely its because the firmware required for the driver is binary-only and thus in the non-free package
[01:41] <vrement> but in Trisquel, ALL and everything is free.
[01:41] <dotDeb> whitepowder you misread again
[01:41] <dotDeb> trisquel works, Ubuntu doesn't
[01:41] <vrement> so how can this be?
[01:41] <dotDeb> for this particular piece of hardwarw
[01:41] <vrement> thanks dotweb for helping
[01:41] <whitepowder> Which broadcom card?
[01:41] <dotDeb> isn't trisquel Ubuntu based?
[01:42] <vrement> i don't know what is Trisquel based or anything.... it just works, and Ubuntu did not.
[01:42] <vrement> all i know is that Trisquel is free and gratis.
[01:43] <dotDeb> yea trisquel is Ubuntu based, so this problem makes even less sense
[01:43] <vrement> well, i tried installing Ubuntu 14.04... my wlan card is NOT recognized.
[01:44] <vrement> i then tried, as a test, for like fun... test Trisquel... all free etc.. and lo and behold, my wlan card was on right away.
[01:44] <Guest95457> Hi, what is the name of this IRC client http://pascalpoitras.com/my-weechat-configuration/
[01:44] <Omega9> vrement: what does dmesg say about your card?
[01:44] <vrement> what is dmesg?
[01:45] <OerHeks> !info weechat
[01:45] <Elengil> wonder if a usb wlan would be any better
[01:45] <Omega9> !info dmesg
[01:45] <vrement> how can Trisquel work on broadcom wlan card, and Ubuntu does not? this is my question.
[01:47] <vrement> Trisquel is all open source and gratis, so this is VERY weird on Ubuntu part.
[01:47] <Omega9> vrement: you just need to configure it.
[01:47] <kyle__> Anyone here using multiple disks with an encrypted install?  Is there a tutorial that covers the "right" way of adding more disks to the crypto setup?
[01:47] <vrement> i don't want to configure anything, when i can see that i have an automatic option where it works.
[01:47] <Sunstream> Only thing I know is USB wlan is better than an internal card.
[01:48] <Omega9> ubuntu, is not bad, I'd like to see ubuntu be more multimedia focused, as in all the internet requirements are all upto date with the latest java,flash etc installed as standard
[01:48] <kyle__> Sunstream: Greatly depends on the internal card.
[01:48] <vrement> So why is this in Ubuntu? Trisquel, as i have read, is far behind in progress... being all open etc.
[01:49] <Sunstream> well for "distance"
[01:49] <kyle__> Omega9: If you want multimedia creation, try ubuntu-studio.
[01:49] <dotDeb> omega9 openjdk7 is in the repos and I believe flash is too, but flash is on the way out so I don't know why you care about that being preinstalled
[01:50] <Omega9> flash is used by youtube
[01:50] <causative> doesn't youtube have an option to use htm4 instead of flash
[01:50] <causative> html4
[01:51] <kyle__> Sunstream: Again, greatly depends on the system.  USB wifi adapters have notoriously bad antennas.  You need to modify them or add an antenna to work properly.  Internal wifi cards are usually attached to a reasonable antenna, _but_ they're often out of date very quickly, so can't attach at the latest greatest speed/version, and some cheap manufactuers have horrible QC, and the antenna cable is sometimes not connected.
[01:51] <dotDeb> omega9 no you can force YouTube to use html5
[01:51] <vrement> so.... no one can answer this? Trisquel automates Broadcom Wlan card right on, being open source and gratis OS... but Ubuntu does not recognize that same card on same laptop in any way.
[01:51] <causative> html5
[01:51] <whitepowder> html5 and yea, thankfully flash is dying
[01:51] <dotDeb> also pitivi is a great Linux video editor
[01:51] <kyle__> Omega9: youtube defaults to html5 unless you have a bad browser now.  I think.
[01:51] <dotDeb> very modern
[01:52] <LapJup>  the fedora repo shows 2 versions of unetbootin for fc 20.0. 0-14.581.bzr.fc20 and 608-1fc20. which one should i grab?
[01:52] <Omega9> dotDeb: as you can see from this channel, a lot of people use the net, and they want an OS that is highly capable of the internet requirements. Most people in general likes to have PnP, no funny business of configuring the network card etc
[01:52] <Sunstream> At one time I saw a wifi card that had an external antenna and had a 100mW power output. I can use more than that. I can use up to 1KW if I really wanted to
[01:52] <dotDeb> omega9 java and flash are not internet requirements
[01:52] <jeevesmoss> how do I install Ubuntu on an Asus Transformer pad T100?  I have a known working boot USB, and all I get is the unit looping into the bios
[01:52] <causative> mW means milliwatts
[01:52] <Sunstream> But i have no reason to do that.
[01:53] <Omega9> well then that's where ubuntu has failed
[01:53] <causative> 1 KW is 10,000 times more power than 100 mW
[01:53] <causative> Omega9, you can get flash in ubuntu if you want it, and you can get java too
[01:53] <vrement> No one can answer this then. This is a definitive flaw in Ubuntu, can some dev take this issue forward?
[01:53] <kyle__> Sunstream: Unless you've got the right license, no, you can't use 1KW transmissions without risking some serious fines or jail time.
[01:53] <dotDeb> vrement have you checked for available drivers?
[01:54] <Sunstream> I have the license
[01:54] <Omega9> vrement: dmesg | cat broadcom
[01:54] <kurogoma> which driver would i use for the touchpad on the galago ultra?
[01:54] <vrement> dotDeb: i already said... Trisquel does NOT need any configuring.
[01:54] <kurogoma> synaptics?
[01:54] <vrement> works right on... being gratis and open source.
[01:54] <kurogoma> there's no real description
[01:54] <dotDeb> vrement so are you actually trying to get Ubuntu to work or are you just here to bash Ubuntu?
[01:55] <kyle__> Sunstream: awesome.  What do yo use it for?
[01:55] <Sunstream> as long as I stay within a certian section of the band I can even use 5 watts (which is more than part 15)
[01:55] <vrement> No, not trying to bash. Just asking: how can this be?
[01:55] <Sunstream> I use it to talk to people
[01:55] <Sunstream> there are 2 or 3 channles of the WIFI allocation that falls within a band I can use.
[01:56] <vrement> how can FOSS and gratis Trisquel recognize my wlan broadcom, but Ubuntu does not?
[01:56] <Omega9> vrement: are you on ubuntu right now?
[01:56] <kyle__> Neat.  I've been tempted to get a license, but I'd only use it for data & RC stuff, so I never feel like it's worth going through with it.
[01:56] <dotDeb> vrement the trisquel devs could have written a driver
[01:56] <vrement> Omega9: no
[01:56] <Beldar> jeevesmoss, This a wiped computer and you were on earlier?
[01:56] <Sunstream> Part 97 rules in the USA apply once I use more power than the part 15 allow
[01:57] <Sunstream> I am an amateur Radio operator
[01:57] <kurogoma> and what kind of power drivers would i need?
[01:57] <Sunstream> I have to put HMSS:*My callsign* to do this but I have no reason to do that
[01:57] <Omega9> vrement: You only have one computer?
[01:58] <vrement> i do not understand how can it be, that Ubuntu is less functional in compatibility, than FOSS and gratis Trisquel.
[01:58] <vrement> Omega9: no, i have many.
[01:58] <kyle__> vrement: troll harder summer friend.
[01:58] <vrement> kyle_: how can this be trolling?
[01:59] <vrement> can you tell be the answer why Trisquel works on that issue?
[01:59] <vrement> Ubuntu does not.
[01:59] <dotDeb> vrement because you're evangelizing for trisquel
[01:59] <Omega9> vrement: can you turn on your ubuntu pc? open up a terminal type dmesg | cat broadcom
[01:59] <vrement> dotDeb: i just tried it for first time for fun, and found out this.
[02:00] <vrement> first i tried installing ubuntu, but no wlan found.
[02:00] <dotDeb> vrement Ok so are you on trisquel now?
[02:00] <vrement> no, i'm right now on Mint 17
[02:00] <kurogoma> vrement: drivers are installed? lspci -v should tell you if they're loaded
[02:01] <dotDeb> vrement and mint worked?
[02:01] <dotDeb> vrement mint is Ubuntu based too
[02:01] <vrement> yes, tried it before Ubuntu and Trisquel
[02:01] <vrement> yes i know it is
[02:01] <vrement> that's why it is weird to me
[02:02] <dotDeb> it's weird to everyone
[02:02] <Beldar> no it's not
[02:02] <vrement> so, Trisquel and Mint recognized this broadcom wlan
[02:02] <vrement> Ubuntu did not
[02:03] <vrement> so my question still is... how can this be ?
[02:03] <dotDeb> beldar I figured someone would say that :P
[02:03] <Omega9> vrement: that's just the way linux is. It's getting there, it's slowly evolving with different forks. Use the distro that works for you. No need for bashing
[02:03] <Beldar> This is not trisquel support
[02:03] <dotDeb> beldar vrement isn't asking a support question
[02:03] <vrement> Omega9: Mint and Trisquel are Linux also, so why are you saying this?
[02:04] <Beldar> dotDeb, I know their rap they were on earlier with a different nick same ip
[02:04] <dotDeb> vrement you missed his point
[02:04] <dotDeb> beldar oh, still Ubuntu bashing? :/
[02:04] <Beldar> yes they were
[02:04] <dotDeb> dang
[02:05] <vrement> i use the working distro, yes, but my question is still... How can the leading distro Ubuntu not work like for example Trisquel, on hardware?
[02:05] <dotDeb> the stallman koolaid is potent stuff, kids
[02:05] <Beldar> lol
[02:05] <vrement> and it's not fun you make jokes on that i've been payed or something
[02:06] <dotDeb> and I'm not anti-stallman, I just don't like the evangelizy fundamentalist stuff
[02:06] <Omega9> vrement: linux has many many distros to choose from. Each one has their own objective. Some are multimedia focused like linux mint. If you are happy with linux mint, stick to it.:)
[02:07] <Omega9> vrement: ubuntu has a different ideology
[02:07] <vrement> i just would like Ubuntu to work right on... it's the first Linux distro the newcomers choose... and then: wlan card not recognized. Then what the Joe Average does? He tosses it.
[02:07] <dotDeb> vrement your problem is rare
[02:08] <kurogoma> i don't think his problem is rare, it's a legitimate concern
[02:08] <Omega9> vrement: hence you made your choice, linux mint. :)
[02:08] <vrement> I just did what i said: i first put on Mint 17... Wlan card right on ok. Then Ubuntu... no, nothing... then for fun, i tried Triaquel (FOSS and gratis) worked too! For my amazement.
[02:08] <dotDeb> kurogoma really? how many wlan cards have this problem?
[02:09] <kurogoma> i think a lot can go wrong with the install process
[02:09] <Beldar> kurogoma, Hardly they don't want to do the simple work needed, nor have the skills
[02:09] <kurogoma> it's happened to me in my old laptop
[02:09] <kurogoma> well, the point is for newcomers like my grandparents to not have to worry about it
[02:09] <kurogoma> once ubuntu is set up it's fine
[02:10] <dotDeb> I think wireless card compatibility is a much bigger issue
[02:10] <kurogoma> but getting stuff to work out of the box is always a plus for people wanting to take the next step
[02:10] <kurogoma> dotDeb: driver support at large is
[02:10] <dotDeb> and ubuntu definitely tops trisquel in that regard because lots of wireless firmware is nonfree
[02:11] <dotDeb> kurogoma that's true
[02:11] <Beldar> kurogoma, it's linux not ever computer plugs and plays, not even with big providers, externalized blame is just a lack of any critical thinking development
[02:11] <Beldar> every*
[02:11] <kurogoma> yeah, i remember using windows 8 around release time and couldn't get an arduino to compile using it, no driver support
[02:12] <Omega9> kurogoma: hence you get other linux distros with that focus in mind, to be PnP, user friendly, internet capable etc out of the box. ie: linux mint, netrunner etc etc. :)
[02:12] <kurogoma> hence i choose linux every day of the week for hardware support on that kind of stuff
[02:13] <kurogoma> i just started compiling my own kernels, that way i know what drivers are on it at startup
[02:13] <kurogoma> everything else is an added module or not supported
[02:13] <Beldar> this is all offtopic can we get back to support
[02:13] <hdm> am i being dense, or is there not 32-bit server iso for 14.04?
[02:14] <Omega9> Beldar: your right lol. I'm outta here. Later guys :)
[02:14] <kurogoma> i have a galago ultrapro and was wondering if there are any specific drivers for power related issues on the battery
[02:14] <hdm> tldr: getting a laptop setup for a 5 yo, unity/xubuntu/etc all work out of the box, but after the first upgrade, fail to find the disk
[02:14] <hdm> going for console mode, but seems overkill to use any server mode iso given the use case --- login and do console stuff
[02:15] <vrement> if it's of any help on future development, my laptop is and old Acer Aspire 5520. Wlan card was right away recognized on Mint and even Trisquel... Not on Ubuntu. This is what i experienced.
[02:15] <kingbeowolf> getting an annoying error fatal error: ImfChromaticities.h: No such file or directory
[02:15] <kingbeowolf> what package is this even to?
[02:16] <Beldar> hdm, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[02:17] <hdm> Beldar: tyvm, must be the mirror i was looking at
[02:17] <Beldar> np
[02:18] <pythonista> I am trying to change the data directory for a mysql database, but after changing the directory the database will not restart. Here is a longer description of the problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/461350/error-changing-mysql-data-directory
[02:18] <hdm> random: is there a `buntu variant designed for kid use in mind?
[02:19] <Beldar> hdm, not from canonical
[02:19] <kingbeowolf> hdm, what age?
[02:19] <lukemorrison> hdm: Maybe Edubuntu?
[02:19] <hdm> 5 yo, reads, does math just fine
[02:19] <hdm> thanks
[02:20] <hdm> the box is underpowered for gimp - 1s draw latency
[02:20] <hdm> mostly we hack on cowsay-based math apps
[02:20] <smokie> anyone know how to list folders in MB instead of bytes ?
[02:20] <smokie> from terminal
[02:20] <hdm> smokie: du -sh
[02:21] <FredddyTo> hi.. i constantly have to share files between multiple operating systems either by harddrive or USB
[02:21] <FredddyTo> the operating systems are ubuntu 12.04, windows and osx.. no matter what I can not find a stable filesystem that i can share between them
[02:22] <holstein> FredddyTo: most use fat32
[02:22] <FredddyTo> My most recent one i've tried is ext4 with paragon on osx and it seems useless... basically the usb gets currupted all the time
[02:22] <hdm> FredddyTo: fs-based sharing has drawbacks, you might look at a p2p+cloud based setup
[02:22] <holstein> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/access-ext4-ext3-or-ext2-partitions-in.html
[02:22] <FredddyTo> isin't fat32 limited to 4gb?
[02:22] <FredddyTo> hdm: cloud sharing isin't really an option
[02:22] <holstein> http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-manage-ext2ext3-disks-in-os-x/
[02:22] <hdm> FredddyTo: personally i recently did spideroak between OSs after using a mix of cifs + offline folders for years
[02:22] <lukemorrison> hdm: http://www.lifehack.org/articles/technology/linux-for-children.html
[02:22] <pythonista> I am trying to change the data directory for a mysql database, but after changing the directory the database will not restart. Here is a longer description of the problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/461350/error-changing-mysql-data-directory
[02:23] <holstein> i make other os's use ext. personally
[02:23] <FredddyTo> hdm: i'm in central china.. so nearly all of the cloud sharing options (google drive, dropbox etc don't work)
[02:23] <hdm> holstein: win32 ext2 drivers have been datalossy for me :/
[02:23] <FredddyTo> holstein, i've tried that.. with ext4 but they keep currupting the drives
[02:23] <hdm> FredddyTo: gotcha, fat32 + crypto container isnt too bad
[02:23] <holstein> FredddyTo: set them up locally.. samba, ssh.. whatever
[02:23] <hdm> fate32 with a truecrypt + ntfs image
[02:24] <hdm> seems to work fairly well these days
[02:24] <FredddyTo> oh how's that work?
[02:24] <hdm> whether TC is trustable is a big unknown
[02:24] <FredddyTo> fat32 is limited to 4gb right?
[02:24] <holstein> ntfs is an option..
[02:24] <FredddyTo> holstein: and install ntfs drivers on osx?
[02:24] <hdm> FredddyTo: ntfs is decently supported in linux now, can ntfs-3g a usb disk, stick a TC container on it, it becomes x-compat
[02:24] <FredddyTo> is ntfs supported by linux?
[02:24] <FredddyTo> oh nice
[02:25] <holstein> FredddyTo: i mean, on some level, if you want one file system in all places, you'll make a compromise
[02:25] <hdm> if you dont trust TC anymore, use bitlocker, but install the fuse bitlocker drivers on linux to access
[02:25] <hdm> the main problem is sync
[02:25] <hdm> in which case you dont want a fs, you want a sync srevice
[02:25] <hdm> offline folders that are based on a samba + luks/ecrypt setup work wonders
[02:25] <hdm> granted its not encrypted in transport unless you use a vpn
[02:25] <FredddyTo> oh
[02:26] <FredddyTo> samba is not encrypted?
[02:26] <hdm> in that setup, each windows box has an "offline folder" that is a samba share
[02:26] <maddawg2> FredddyTo, yes you can read and write from NTFS but i'm not sure about using it as a boot drive
[02:26] <maddawg2> i stick to ext4 nowadays for that
[02:26] <hdm> sync center/ scheduled sync, but... add a drivers\etc\hosts entry to the ip of your openvpn samba share
[02:26] <FredddyTo> maddawg: this would be for extenral media
[02:26] <z1haze> can someone help me? i have a bash script that completes backups for specific folder on my system; how could i limit to say keep only the 28 most recent files and started deleteing the oldest onces after reaching 28
[02:26] <hdm> or your windows box will send your creds to whoever
[02:27] <z1haze> like i want to have up to 28 backups stored, after than i need to start deleting, starting with the oldest
[02:27] <hdm> FredddyTo: luks or bitlocker-to-go, no real good interop besides fuse-absed bitlocker apps now
[02:27] <FredddyTo> right
[02:27] <hdm> assuming you dont trust truecrypt after recent stuff
[02:27] <causative> that's not much of a backup if it only covers 28 recent files
[02:27] <FredddyTo> hdm: do you not trust it now?
[02:27] <z1haze> no causative: 28 backups
[02:27] <FredddyTo> if it was vulnerable it would be nsa :)
[02:28] <z1haze> they are tar backups
[02:28] <hdm> FredddyTo: tbh, im somewhere in between
[02:28] <hdm> ive been switching to spideroak + sync folders and then native crypto
[02:28] <hdm> whether its bitlocker or luks
[02:28] <z1haze> i have a shell script in crontab that backs up every 6 hours a specific folder
[02:28] <hdm> my few remaining TC systems im on the fence about
[02:28] <FredddyTo> do you guys encrypt everything?
[02:28] <z1haze> it does it every 6 hours so i want to keep 1 weeks woth
[02:28] <hdm> i kinda half to, but there are lots of gaps :/
[02:28] <causative> oh, well you could try ls -t | head -n 28 to get the 28 most recent files in the directory
[02:28] <hdm> s/half/have/
[02:29] <FredddyTo> I talked to a guy about 2 years ago who claimed that the intel tcm chip could have the encryption reversed if you had supercomputer time and could get access to the chip itself
[02:29] <z1haze> causative: lets say i create a blank backup folder, i want to place my backup-date.tar files in there
[02:29] <causative> or you could do:  ls -t | tail -n +29 | xargs rm
[02:29] <hdm> FredddyTo: for example, ecryptfs is nice... except its derived from your password
[02:29] <pythonista> Can anyone help with moving mysql directory? After changing data directory mysql will not restart
[02:29] <z1haze> i want to accumulate up to 28 backupos
[02:29] <hdm> tc is nice, except its possible compromised according to its devs
[02:29] <z1haze> then after 28, start knocking off the oldest ones first, to keep 28
[02:29] <hdm> luks is solid, but XTS mode is under fire
[02:30] <FredddyTo> hdm: do you encrypt everything?
[02:30] <hdm> imo, pick who you defend against, dont leave cleartext lying around
[02:30] <FredddyTo> i.e. boot drives, external media etc
[02:30] <Beldar> !ot | FredddyTo
[02:30] <hdm> FredddyTo: yes basically, go pm if you like
[02:30] <hdm> thanks all to the kiddo/bunto responses
[02:30] <z1haze> causative: can you help with that?
[02:31] <causative> I said:  ls -t | tail -n +29 | xargs rm
[02:31] <causative> that removes all but the most recently modified 28 files in the current directory
[02:31] <Beldar> hdm, welcome to ignore, this channel has protocols far a reason
[02:31] <z1haze> im really terrible at writing this stuff though; 1 sec ill show my backup script
[02:31] <z1haze> it may be messy but it does work
[02:31] <syntroPi> Which is the most capable DVB-T/C video player software (preferably with timeshifting) based on GTK3? Currently I am using VLC but it has QT gui...
[02:32] <z1haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7719322/ causativ
[02:33] <z1haze> could i put it in there?
[02:34] <causative> sure
[02:34] <causative> ls -t $DESTDIR | tail -n +29 | xargs rm
[02:35] <z1haze> it would go after line 9?
[02:35] <pythonista> Trying to change data directory for mysql server, having issues: http://askubuntu.com/questions/461350/error-changing-mysql-data-directory
[02:35] <causative> you could put it anywhere really
[02:35] <causative> after line 9 works
[02:36] <causative> this assumes your backup directory has no files in it other than your backups
[02:36] <z1haze> ok ill give it a shot
[02:36] <causative> because if it has other files, it's going to delete all but the most recent 28
[02:36] <z1haze> thats fine
[02:36] <z1haze> i created that directory
[02:36] <z1haze> for these tar files
[02:36] <z1haze> thats all that will be in it
[02:38] <causative> it also assumes nothing is modifying those backup tars after they are created
[02:38] <z1haze> rm: missing operand
[02:38] <z1haze> they wont be modified
[02:38] <causative> oh that's because you don't have any old files to delete
[02:38] <adamcunnington> Hi, has anyone used aptik?
[02:39] <z1haze> ok so once i get up to 28 it should work
[02:39] <causative> yeah
[02:40] <hdm> Beldar: no worries mate, moved to pm after the suggestion, thanks again
[02:40] <linuxuz3r> hey guys how do i administer services in ubuntu
[02:40] <causative> use the service command
[02:40] <linuxuz3r> i want to shutdown unneeded services and run my own service
[02:41] <causative> man service
[02:41] <holstein> linuxuz3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto http://askubuntu.com/questions/58404/how-to-start-and-stop-a-service
[02:42] <z1haze> hey causative: rm: cannot remove `backup-2014-06-28-220402.tgz': No such file or directory thats odd because i know 100% the file is there im looking at it
[02:42] <holstein> z1haze: try using the entire path
[02:42] <causative> oh yeah
[02:43] <z1haze> what do you mean?
[02:43] <z1haze> dont use the variable?
[02:43] <causative> you might want to change to the backup directory first
[02:43] <holstein> z1haze: /path/to/file, rather than just rm file
[02:43] <z1haze> i wont know the file though
[02:43] <holstein> z1haze: ~/Downloads or /home/z1haze/Backup or whatever
[02:43] <z1haze> its going to change
[02:44] <holstein> z1haze: you said you are looking at the file, and asking why you are getting an rm error.. thats what im addressing..
[02:44] <z1haze> sorry im not getting it
[02:45] <z1haze> what do you mean /path/to/file rather than just rm file
[02:45] <causative> sh -c "cd $DESTDIR && ls -t | tail -n +29 | xargs rm"
[02:45] <holstein> z1haze: why are you getting an error when running "rm filename".. its because you should either, as causative suggested, cd into the directory, or just use the full path
[02:47] <z1haze> so like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7719350/ sorry im not a coder at all, i know basic java stuff at best.. but i did test and it seems to work
[02:48] <z1haze> where can i read what sh -c means?
[02:48] <linuxuz3r> what are the different runlevels in ubuntu
[02:48] <linuxuz3r> 0-6
[02:49] <linuxuz3r> how do i know what runlevel im in right now
[02:49] <linuxuz3r> im on desktop unity
[02:49] <holstein> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_sh.htm http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?sh , z1haze
[02:49] <z1haze> ok awesome thanks
[02:50] <holstein> linuxuz3r: should be stock, if you havent changed anything
[02:50] <causative> z1haze, sh -c starts a new shell that runs that command inside the quotes, the purpose is so that cd doesn't affect anything that happens afterwards
[02:50] <z1haze> ohh
[02:53] <boy_wanders> how do I find out where /var/lib/mysql is mounted?
[02:55] <causative> what do you mean, where it's mounted?  it's a directory
[02:55] <causative> it isn't mounted anywhere
[02:55] <maddawg2> lol
[02:55] <maddawg2> thats funny
[02:55] <richiefrich> o_0
[02:55] <causative> you mount devices
[02:55] <maddawg2> boy_wanders most likely /var/lib/mysql
[02:56] <maddawg2> that's where it's "LOCATED"
[02:56] <boy_wanders> I want to know how much disk space that directory has
[02:56] <causative> du -h /var/lib/mysql
[02:56] <maddawg2> how much disk space?
[02:56] <richiefrich> du -sh /foo
[02:56] <maddawg2> you mean howmuch disk space it USES?
[02:57] <maddawg2> boy_wanders, are you looking for how LARGE that directory is or how much space is left on your hard drive
[02:57] <maddawg2> two different things
[02:57] <boy_wanders> Basically MySQL is saying it can't start because it's out of disk space
[02:57] <richiefrich> df -h
[02:58] <maddawg2> yea so you want to know how much disk space you have
[02:58] <boy_wanders> it's a 40GB disk with 5.11GB used
[02:58] <Ben64> boy_wanders: pastebin "df -h"
[02:58] <richiefrich> are you using all the inodes?
[02:58] <maddawg2> mmmm inodes
[02:58] <richiefrich> df -i
[02:58]  * maddawg2 drools
[02:58] <boy_wanders> Ben64,
[02:59] <boy_wanders> http://pastebin.com/DvevaSVJ
[02:59] <pythonista> I am trying to move my mysql data directory. After changing the directory mysql will not restart
[02:59] <Ben64> boy_wanders: that looks quite strange, what kind of system is this
[02:59] <pythonista> http://askubuntu.com/questions/461350/error-changing-mysql-data-directory
[02:59] <richiefrich> pythonista: did you set the new directory in my.cnf
[02:59] <boy_wanders> it's an OpenVZ container with an assigned IP address
[03:00] <richiefrich> boy_wanders: df -i
[03:00] <pythonista> richiefrich: yes, I changed the datadir
[03:00] <maddawg2> does it say you are out of disk space or out of memory boy_wanders ?
[03:00] <boy_wanders>  * /etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full!
[03:00] <richiefrich> boy_wanders: df -i
[03:00] <causative> boy_wanders, well it looks like /dev/ploop36036p1 is the device in question
[03:00] <maddawg2> yea do a pastebin of df -i
[03:01] <pythonista> richiefrich: more details here http://askubuntu.com/questions/461350/error-changing-mysql-data-directory
[03:01] <boy_wanders> http://pastebin.com/52Dvv4y0
[03:01] <richiefrich> odd
[03:02] <richiefrich> pythonista: is that your error exactly?
[03:02] <Ben64> boy_wanders: df -i this time not df -h
[03:02] <pythonista> yes, I posted it
[03:02] <Ben64> boy_wanders: oh wait, clicked the wrong link, sorry
[03:02] <boy_wanders> that was -i :)
[03:02] <richiefrich> pythonista: ok
[03:02] <maddawg2> Ben64 he already did
[03:03] <maddawg2> ben64: http://pastebin.com/52Dvv4y0
[03:03] <cirkit> ?
[03:03] <richiefrich> pythonista: paste me your my.cnf
[03:03] <maddawg2> it looks like you are using all the inodes
[03:03] <richiefrich> pythonista: also i need the .err file
[03:03] <maddawg2> quite odd that it says you are out of space tho
[03:03] <Ben64> boy_wanders: try this.... "sudo dd bs=1M count=100 if=/dev/zero of=/var/lib/mysql/delete_me"
[03:04] <richiefrich> he is only using 1%  of inodes
[03:04] <pythonista> [client]
[03:04] <pythonista> port		= 3306
[03:04] <pythonista> socket		= /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[03:04] <pythonista> [mysqld_safe]
[03:04] <pythonista> socket		= /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[03:04] <pythonista> nice		= 0
[03:04] <pythonista> [mysqld]
[03:04] <cirkit> ???
[03:04] <pythonista> user		= mysql
[03:04] <pythonista> pid-file	= /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
[03:04] <pythonista> socket = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[03:04] <pythonista> port = 3306
[03:04] <cirkit> Please use a pastebin
[03:04] <pythonista> basedir		= /usr
[03:04] <boy_wanders> 100+0 both in and out then 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 0.0915954 s, 1.1 GB/s
[03:04] <pythonista> datadir = /media/D/mysql
[03:04] <pythonista> tmpdir		= /tmp
[03:04] <Ben64> pythonista: pastebin! don't flood the channel
[03:04] <pythonista> lc-messages-dir	= /usr/share/mysql
[03:04] <pythonista> skip-external-locking
[03:04] <cirkit> Please use a pastebin
[03:04] <richiefrich> pythonista: not here "\
[03:04] <pythonista> bind-address = 127.0.0.1
[03:04] <pythonista> key_buffer		= 16M
[03:04] <pythonista> max_allowed_packet = 16M
[03:04] <cirkit> what the fuck!!
[03:04] <pythonista> thread_stack		= 192K
[03:04] <Ben64> boy_wanders: then you're not out of space.
[03:04] <pythonista> thread_cache_size       = 8
[03:04] <pythonista> myisam-recover         = BACKUP
[03:04] <pythonista> query_cache_limit	= 1M
[03:04] <cirkit> Wow!!!!
[03:05] <pythonista> query_cache_size = 16M
[03:05] <pythonista> log_error = /var/log/mysql/error.log
[03:05] <cirkit> Wow!!!!
[03:05] <pythonista> expire_logs_days	= 10
[03:05] <pythonista> max_binlog_size         = 100M
[03:05] <boy_wanders> Ben64, well mysql seems to disagree with you :p
[03:05] <Ben64> cirkit: don't start using bad language because someone floods though :)
[03:05] <IdleOne> !paste | pythonista
[03:05] <Ben64> boy_wanders: how are you starting it?
[03:05] <zhaotongxue> hi
[03:05] <boy_wanders> K /etc/init.d/mysql start
[03:05] <pythonista> http://pastebin.com/R68Yn7Sw
[03:05] <zhaotongxue> how to config ibus well
[03:05] <linuxuz3r> well it seams that ubuntu doesnt have a stray service
[03:06] <IdleOne> cirkit: no swearing please
[03:06] <linuxuz3r> everything is clean
[03:06] <linuxuz3r> at least in my ubuntu install
[03:06] <zhaotongxue> ???
[03:06] <Ben64> boy_wanders: sudo?
[03:06] <zhaotongxue> i can't use my ibus will
[03:06] <boy_wanders> nope, I'll try that
[03:06] <boy_wanders> well that works
[03:06] <boy_wanders> I'm dumb
[03:06] <Ben64> :)
[03:06] <boy_wanders> Thanks Ben64 <3
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> 你好世界
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> 为什么不行呢？
[03:07] <pythonista> richiefrich: http://pastebin.com/R68Yn7Sw
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> 但是为什么呢？
[03:07] <Ben64> !cn | zhaotongxue
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> i love you
[03:15] <pythonista> richiefrich: any ideas?
[03:15] <richiefrich> sec
[03:15] <pythonista> k thanks
[03:16] <zhaotongxue> how to config ibus?
[03:19] <richiefrich> pythonista: can you do ....  tail -100 /var/log/mysql/error.log     and pastbin that
[03:19] <OerHeks> zhaotongxue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus
[03:19] <zhaotongxue> thanks
[03:20] <OerHeks> !ibus
[03:20] <richiefrich> pythonista: stat /media/D/mysql
[03:20] <richiefrich> is it owned by mysql.mysql
[03:21] <pythonista> richiefrich: http://pastebin.com/egw96Rms
[03:21] <holstein> !server
[03:22] <holstein> pythonista: ^ i would try there, and the mailing lists associcated. and mysql specific support
[03:22] <pythonista> richiefrich: http://pastebin.com/kM4Zi6LJ
[03:22] <holstein> pythonista: dealin specifically with the errors from there.. like .. Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist
[03:23] <richiefrich> pythonista: it seems you have a lot going on here i mean inndb is in recovery mode, and you are missing Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist
[03:23] <holstein> yup.. and .. /usr/sbin/mysqld: Table 'mysql.plugin' doesn't exist
[03:23] <holstein> pythonista: you have not dont the migration correctly
[03:23] <pythonista> richiefrich: note the timestamps are from before I shut down the database, it works fine before I made the changes in my link
[03:24] <richiefrich> how did you copy the files over>/
[03:24] <richiefrich> rsync or cp?
[03:24] <pythonista> richiefrich: cp and then changed ownership http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1795176/how-to-change-mysql-data-directory
[03:25] <richiefrich>  basedir         = /usr
[03:25] <richiefrich>  datadir = /media/D/mysql
[03:25] <pythonista> holstein: obviously
[03:25] <richiefrich> i would think that is wrong
[03:25] <richiefrich>  basedir         = /media/D
[03:25] <richiefrich>  datadir = /media/D/mysql
[03:25] <pythonista> richiefrich: ok , I'll give it a try
[03:26] <richiefrich> idk if that will help but to me its wrong
[03:27] <pythonista> richiefrich: no luck
[03:27] <richiefrich> ok
[03:28] <richiefrich> so if you change it back to
[03:28] <richiefrich>  basedir         = /usr
[03:28] <richiefrich>  datadir = /var/lib/mysql
[03:28] <pythonista> yep, did that
[03:28] <richiefrich> it works?
[03:29] <pythonista> If I change everything changed in that link back it will work again
[03:30] <pythonista> richiefrich: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1795176/how-to-change-mysql-data-directory
[03:30] <richiefrich> ok so why do you wanna move /var/lib/mysql
[03:30] <richiefrich> to /media/D/mysql
[03:30] <pythonista> richiefrich: because the second hard drive is much larger and I don't want to fill up the first which is solid state
[03:30] <richiefrich> i would run an rsync -avP /var/lib/mysql /media/D
[03:31] <richiefrich> and see what you get
[03:31] <richiefrich> then start it
[03:32] <pythonista> richiefrich: still fails
[03:32] <pythonista> richiefrich: "start: Job failed to start"
[03:33] <richiefrich> pythonista: right but i need the error from the logs
[03:33] <richiefrich> not from when you start it with your script
[03:34] <pythonista> richiefrich: that is what it returns from the command line. Which log do you want?
[03:34] <richiefrich>  /var/log/mysql/error.log
[03:34] <richiefrich> but only the tail of it
[03:34] <richiefrich> the errors are always in the logs
[03:36] <richiefrich> pythonista: you can try and start it by doing this too.
[03:36] <richiefrich> mysqld_safe --defaults-file=/etc/my.cnf &
[03:36] <pythonista> richiefrich: that log did not change at all, still has a last timestamp of 90 minutes ago before I started doing this
[03:37] <richiefrich> unless yours is in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[03:37] <balonhead> richiefrich: Yo!
[03:37] <richiefrich> ho!
[03:37] <balonhead> pythonista: Yo!
[03:38] <richiefrich> pythonista: then you have an .err file in /media/D/mysql
[03:38] <richiefrich> or sohuld
[03:39] <kid22> hello guys
[03:40] <Geo> how do I tell what filesystem a hard drive is running?
[03:40] <balonhead> kid22: Yo!
[03:40] <pythonista> richiefrich: no dice. Parenthetically, is their a GUI like mysql workbench for ubuntu that might be able to do all of this automatically? (wishful thinking?)
[03:41] <cfhowlett> Geo sudo fdisk -l
[03:41] <balonhead> Geo: Yo!
[03:41] <richiefrich> pythonista: no sir
[03:41] <richiefrich> pythonista: do you know where your config is?
[03:41] <richiefrich> my.cnf i mean
[03:41] <holstein> !ot | balonhead
[03:42] <hamiltont> Anyone have some tips for fixing nobody:nogroup on NFSv4? My exports are correct, my domain is correct, my gids/uids/passwd/shadow are synchronized, and *sometimes* files are properly owned by the correct local users
[03:42] <hamiltont> Not always...
[03:42] <richiefrich> holstein: just put him on ignore he is uselss
[03:42] <Geo> cfhowlett: not sure that lists the filesystem...
[03:42] <richiefrich> hamiltont: thats a nightmare, i always use v3
[03:42] <Geo> I see partitions, but looking for ext3, ext4, etc
[03:42] <cfhowlett> Geo sadly, you are right.  sorry for the mal-intel
[03:43] <anonymous> hello' how to install ubuntu iso for in windows
[03:43] <sveta> balonhead, Hi. Please don't greet folks. It may be hard to pick up the pace with mobile, but I'm sure you can read. Thanks.
[03:43] <hamiltont> richiefrich: Darn, thanks for the heads up. I can't control that part unfortunately
[03:43] <Geo> no worries, I'm pretty sure you've given me good info before :)
[03:43] <cfhowlett> anonymous install virtualbox in windows.  install ubuntu in virtualbox
[03:43] <richiefrich> hamiltont: oh that sucks
[03:43] <hamiltont> Trying to use restart idmapd currently, but I can't make it work consistently
[03:43] <anonymous> hello
[03:43] <hamiltont> it==NFS
[03:43] <richiefrich> hamiltont: i would say you might have to do some magic in fstab
[03:44] <pythonista> richiefrich: ok, well thanks for trying to help fix it
[03:44] <anonymous> thank's cfhowlett
[03:44] <hamiltont> Hmmm non-defaults perhaps. I can take a look at that
[03:44] <cfhowlett> anonymous happy2help
[03:44] <hamiltont> perhaps an odd sync vs async issue
[03:44] <richiefrich> pythonista: np but where is your config at you can try starting it with the command line
[03:44] <richiefrich> pythonista: is it in /etc/mysql/my.cnf or /etc/my.cnf
[03:45] <anonymous> cfhowlett thank's you are very nice
[03:47] <richiefrich> pythonista: if you let me know i have an idea
[03:49] <Geo> hi, cloning a drive using rsync, and I need to be able to boot from the destination drive when done (diff filesystem, so no dd). Using a live cd, i mounted old/ and new/ ... about to run rsync -aAXvp old/ new/ --exclude=new/    ... any improvements or cautions on that?
[03:50] <holstein> Geo: i use clonezilla.. you can use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair to repair or install grub
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I am having some difficulties, I keep getting complete freezes, in the sense that i cannot follow all  suggestions and my problem is similar to the one mentioned here
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> i recently took away acspi_osx=Linux from my grub
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> i thought it fixed the issue as for one day i did not get any freezes
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> but today i did again
[03:50] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: have you tried the vesa driver? that would tell me if its graphics related.. or, at least help
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> how would I try the vesa driver?
[03:51] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: i use this xorg.conf http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 as is.. just to see if it works, and is stable..
[03:52] <balonhead> Amd and Intel offer open source drivers. Linux is always screaming open-source. But Linux graphic works Best with closed source Nvidia.
[03:53] <holstein> balonhead: "best" is always a matter of opinion and use case.. but, the drivers the manufacturer make are using the "best" at supporting the device
[03:54] <holstein> i usually suggest trying the open drivers, and if they meet needs, then thats the "Best", since its included with the kernel
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> holstein, thank you
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> will try this
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> i think i will back it up as well just incase :P
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> does not mention that but that is always good
[03:54] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: back what up? you shouldnt have one..
[03:54] <holstein> !xorgconf
[03:54] <Psil0Cybin> oh it said originally to over write ha
[03:55] <balonhead> holstein: the drivers AMD and Intel graphic drivers are open-source and from the manufacturer. But Linux refuses to optimize with them. Instead they stick with closed NVPAu acceleration.
[03:55] <holstein> balonhead: linux refuses to optimize them? linux is not reponsible for them.. or the hardware..
[03:56] <laryu_bsod> you no tools hacking the most popular
[03:57] <cfhowlett> !english|laryu_bsod
[03:57] <holstein> balonhead: providing open drivers is an "optimization" step that the kernel devs try, to provide support in the kernel.. but, the vendors can also provide proprietary drivers.. the user can use which ever they choose
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> holstein, if that config does not work, is that my only bet
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> what can be another step in diagnosing this?
[03:59] <Psil0Cybin> I know for a fact it is not a memory issue.
[04:00] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: that "config" is just to force the vesa driver for you to isolate and hopefully test with the driver out of the equation
[04:03] <stormageddon07> I'm having a little trouble with an error message on boot. I'm running 12.04 LTS, and I have error messages that say /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is present or is not ready, and the same message that pertains to the /dev/mapper/envy--m4--vg-swap_1. I skip mounting the disks, and I can log in. But I'd really like to boot with no errors.
[04:03] <holstein> stormageddon07: its a message, though.. i have seen that as my disks become "ready"
[04:07] <laryu_bsod> you know! not clear how the virus flame and stunex cyberware can be a tool of war to tell my friends computer virus is a strong stand to
[04:08] <bukkit> hello. I am trying to get a program (server, minecraft) to start when my machine starts. the instructions say to use an init.d, by creating a symlink to their file, then to update the rc.d I created to lini running update-rc.d says no file exists
[04:08] <cfhowlett> laryu_bsod what language do you speak?
[04:08] <bukkit> ironlically, when I use autofinish in the /etc/init.d dir, it finds the correct file
[04:09] <stormageddon07> holstein, it may be a message, but it comes up on every boot.
[04:09] <holstein> stormageddon07: sure.. it did for me to, as the disk became ready..
[04:09] <holstein> stormageddon07: you have to skip it? to get around it? or if you wait, you can proceed? correct?
[04:09] <balonhead> holstein: nvidia seems to be Linux gold standard for hw acceleration.
[04:10] <holstein> balonhead: nvidia is not related to linux
[04:10] <stormageddon07> holstein: I haven't waited, I just skipped it because I assumed it was an error.
[04:10] <holstein> balonhead: the "gold standard" is arguably intel, which typically provides linux support by default for inclusion in the kernel
[04:11] <holstein> stormageddon07: try waiting.. an error would state error. this says "not ready".. meaning, if thats the case, when its ready, you'll be able to enter..
[04:12] <laryu_bsod> sorry my english is not good :) cfhowlett
[04:12] <cfhowlett> laryu_bsod what language do you speak?
[04:12] <stormageddon07> Gotcha. Thanks.
[04:12] <holstein> stormageddon07: its related to encrption.. security measures are always a trade off..
[04:13] <stormageddon07> holstein: I thought it was related to encryption, as it was cryptswap that it was waiting to load.
[04:14] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/341979/what-to-do-about-the-disk-drive-for-dev-mapper-cryptswap1-is-not-ready-yet-or is relevant, stormageddon07 .. if you find you are actually not getting into the swap
[04:15] <laryu_bsod> cfhowlett My language is Malayasia
[04:15] <cfhowlett> !malaysia| laryu_bsod
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !my| laryu_bsod
[04:17] <stormageddon07> holstein: Found my problem. Gparted says I have no swap, despite the fact that it's in /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab.
[04:18] <laryu_bsod> thank's my firend cfhowlett you are very nice
[04:18] <cfhowlett> laryu_bsod happy to help
[04:18] <holstein> stormageddon07: seems like, you are skipping the mounting of it
[04:19] <stormageddon07> In that case, let me reboot and see what happens.
[04:25] <stormageddon07> holstein: I waited for them to mount, and Gparted still looks the same. I have 3 partitions: sda1 is /boot/efi, sda2 is /boot, and sda3 is crypt-luks. sda3 has a red exclamation mark out beside it, and when I check the error, it says, "Linux Unified Key Setup encryption is not yet supported."
[04:25] <stormageddon07> holstein: Either way, no swap.
[04:37] <luis_> hola
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !es|luis_
[04:41] <c0re_> how come i can access all of my three monitors simultaneously on Ubuntu but not on Debian or windows...
[04:42] <Geo> After cloning a drive using rsync, I now can't boot from the new drive. Where should I start troubleshooting?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> c0re_ ???? why ask ubuntu?  It's a windows/debian problem.  not supported here.  ##windows  #debian
[04:43] <xixi-chan> did you pay windows the extra $300 fee for the rights to use that extra monitor?
[04:43] <c0re_> just been wondering because it just worked out-of-the-box
[04:44] <xixi-chan> they are a nickel and dime company, so that could be the problem
[04:44] <c0re_> xixi-chan, more of a AMD driver problem i think
[04:44] <cfhowlett> c0re_ "it just works" = ubuntu > windows/debian
[04:44] <Sunstream> what???! You have to pay Microsoft 300 bucks to use a 2nd monitor?
[04:44] <c0re_> didn't get it to work with proprietary drivers on Deb ... and not with the official AMD drivers on Win... (but that is because i dont have an active adapter for DP to HDMI yet)
[04:45] <c0re_> sure thing Sunstream
[04:45] <xixi-chan> windows is probably because you didn't pay for the extra usage/debian sounds like a user error ask the folks over at #debian
[04:46] <c0re_> funnily i can use full landscape mode on ubuntu... guess ill stick to it for some time
[04:49] <Bashing-om> Geo: Might check the UUIDs in /etc/fstab, /etc/grub.d and /boot/grub/grub.cfg againsy what  -> sudo blkid <- indentifies the parttions as.
[04:50] <Sunstream> lol
[04:59] <Beldar> Geo, Not sure rsync saves the mbr, this msdos?
[05:02] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Geo
[05:15] <luis_> hi
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> luis_: hello
[05:16] <luis_> hello anyone knows that you can not update ubuntu
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> luis_: whats your error?
[05:18] <luis_> upgrade me to mark errors in dependencies
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> luis_: from wich ubuntu version are you trying to upgrade?
[05:19] <luis_> Imposible obtener http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]
[05:20] <luis_> of 11,04 to 11.10
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> luis_: natty is end of life
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> luis_: you need to install a version from topic, maybe 14.04
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> !eol | luis_
[05:21] <luis_> yes like I can not update
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> luis_: you cannot update from 11.04, you need to install a new ubuntu version
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> luis_: download 14.04 to install clean
[05:23] <luis_> my pc no soport a new vercion
[05:24] <luis_> my pc does not support this vercion
[05:24] <dotDeb> Luis_ what's the problem?
[05:24] <luis_> is a p3 a 1.7 1ram
[05:24] <histo> luis_: upgrade to 12.04 then
[05:24] <histo> luis_: follow the end of life instructions
[05:25] <histo> luis_: you can run 14.04 just use a lighter desktop like lubuntu or xubuntu
[05:25] <luis_> if I can not update from the pc so the solution I see is from another cd
[05:25] <luis_> xubuntu
[05:27] <luis_> 4.04 requires the 2g ram
[05:27] <dotDeb> Luis_ how much ram do you have
[05:28] <luis_> i'not $$$
[05:31] <luis_> as upgrade from the terminal to not download the ISO
[05:32] <dotDeb> Luis_ I still don't understand the problem
[05:33] <luis_> ok
[05:33] <dotDeb> what's the problem
[05:34] <linuxuz3r> seems like stallman is really against profit
[05:34] <linuxuz3r> lol
[05:35] <linuxuz3r> i saw a video him bashing amazon integration in unity
[05:35] <linuxuz3r> oh well
[05:35] <dotDeb> linuxuz3r you're just learning this? I believe he was a communist at one point
[05:36] <linuxuz3r> he is to the far left and i understand his point
[05:36] <linuxuz3r> it sucks to be a victime of spyware malware and hacking
[05:36] <linuxuz3r> he is the other end that balances it out
[05:36] <dotDeb> linuxuz3r I totally understand his points and now he is a green party supporter which I mostly support
[05:36] <linuxuz3r> yeah
[05:37] <linuxuz3r> well dotDeb i learned that using ubuntu needs little maintenance
[05:37] <dotDeb> linuxuz3r what do you mean
[05:37] <linuxuz3r> its unlike the yesteryears of linux where you have to manually configure services and software
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> i wonder what linux system administrator jobs do in their field
[05:38] <Ben64> can you move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[05:38] <dotDeb> k
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> ok ill stop
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> dotDeb, do you play with terminal alot
[05:39] <dotDeb> linuxuz3r play with terminal? what?  I use it when I need it
[05:39] <linuxuz3r> i found a cool software that lets you do multitasking using 1 terminal
[05:39] <linuxuz3r> oh
[05:39] <linuxuz3r> yeah
[05:39] <linuxuz3r> try byobu
[05:39] <dotDeb> I use Debian anyways
[05:39] <linuxuz3r> its ciool
[05:39] <dotDeb> but this all belongs in offtopix
[05:39] <dotDeb> c
[05:39] <linuxuz3r> i use debian and ubuntu
[05:39] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:39] <dotDeb> let's go
[05:42] <xenturion> hola estoy probando mi primera instalacion de linux
[05:42] <DeadxBeat> Hello all.
[05:43] <dotDeb> xenturion que es la problema?
[05:43] <dotDeb> hi
[05:44] <xenturion> necesito hacer una usb booteable de windows 8.1
[05:44] <xenturion> desde xubuntu 14.04
[05:44] <Ben64> xenturion: windows support is in ##windows
[05:44] <DeadxBeat> I just finished building a home server and I'm going to be installing ubuntu on it. I have an 120gb SSD for the main os and swap and a 4TB HDD for media. Can anyone help me with the partitioning please?
[05:45] <xenturion> necesito hacer la usb desde xubuntu
[05:46] <Ben64> xenturion: well support is still in ##windows for windows issues. making a windows boot usb is most definitely a windows issue. they will know the best method to accomplish that goal.
[05:47] <xenturion> el problema es que al instalar xubuntu y estar haciendo pruebas para configurar grub jodi el boot de windows
[05:48] <Ben64> xenturion: this channel is for English language only
[05:50] <DeadxBeat> Anyone?
[05:50] <Ben64> DeadxBeat: are you having a problem with the partitioning?
[05:51] <rohan_> I am trying to run a server at startup, it fails, when I look at the boot log I get a can't start /var/run/screen Permission Denied, how can I fix this?\
[05:51] <DeadxBeat> Ben64: Well when I installed ubuntu I chose a guided partitioning with LVM for my 120GB SSD. I'm not sure how to add my 4TB HDD to the LVM since its GPT and fdisk doesnt support it
[05:51] <Ben64> rohan_: can you pastebin the full command and error you're getting
[05:52] <rohan_> Not sure the command as it is part of the script to start my bukkit (minecraft) server
[05:52] <rohan_> error on boot.log is
[05:52] <rohan_> * CraftBukkit was not already running. Starting...
[05:52] <rohan_>  * Using map named "world"...
[05:52] <rohan_> Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied
[05:52] <Ben64> DeadxBeat: so you already have ubuntu installed?
[05:52] <luis_> bye
[05:53] <DeadxBeat> Ben64: Yes but i'm willing to reinstall it. I was looking for a recommended partition scheme for a general server(web/file/etc) so i only want the OS and swap on the SSD and everything else on the HDD
[05:53] <histo> rohan_: you on a vps?
[05:54] <rohan_> histo: what is vps?
[05:54] <rohan_> I am running my own box in front of me
[05:54] <DeadxBeat> I've never configured a server with multiple hard disks before so im not sure about what filesystems to use and mounting points
[05:54] <histo> rohan_: k I've seen that error with people using certain hosting providers
[05:54] <histo> DeadxBeat: do you want to use raid?
[05:54] <rohan_> histo: gotcha. nope, my own older box here
[05:54] <Ben64> DeadxBeat: i don't think ssd is a good place for swap. you probably don't need to reinstall. i don't use lvm myself, but if i were you i'd mount the new drive in a new location, like /mnt/stuff, or /home, or however you prefer
[05:55] <rohan_> running 14.04
[05:55] <histo> DeadxBeat: What are you going to store on the 4tb drive?
[05:55] <histo> !partition | DeadxBeat
[05:56] <DeadxBeat> histo: Eventually I want to use raid as i plan on adding more 4tb disks; But for now i just have the SSD and one HDD and I will be storing videos/music/websites
[05:56] <DeadxBeat> !GParted
[05:57] <histo> DeadxBeat: then you may want to use the 4tb as a mount in /home somewhere.
[05:58] <histo> DeadxBeat: don't worry about it at install you can always mount it later
[05:58] <rohan_> histo: from looking around, looks like I might need a timer to delay the screen startup?
[05:59] <syntroPi> Does somebody know a trustworthy ppa for totem 3.12??
[06:01] <DeadxBeat> What filesystem would you recommend for the 4TB HDD? I tried ext4 but parted doesnt support ext4 apparently
[06:01] <histo> rohan_: sleep
[06:01] <histo> DeadxBeat: yeah it does
[06:02] <histo> DeadxBeat: just stick with ext4 for now.
[06:03] <DeadxBeat> "No Implementation: Support for creating ext4 file systems is not implemented yet."
[06:04] <DeadxBeat> When i run mkpartfs primary ext4 0GB 4001GB
[06:04] <histo> DeadxBeat: what are you using getting that error?
[06:04] <Ben64> DeadxBeat: you can format after
[06:04] <histo> DeadxBeat: partition the drive then mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdX#
[06:05] <rohan_> histo: you think that putting sleep for a time would work okay? I don't know how to find where it is called
[06:05] <syntroPi> DeadxBeat, maybe you can do it similar to this here? http://www.ctheroux.com/2012/06/initializing-a-brand-new-disk-with-parted/
[06:05] <histo> rohan_: I don't know what your script does.  If you want it to wait for a certain ammount of time use sleep # of seconds
[06:07] <rohan_> histo: here is the init'd script: http://pastebin.com/upeBUfJJ
[06:09] <rohan_> histo: would the script call screen, or the server that is java? If so perhaps I put the sleep before the call to java?
[06:09] <DeadxBeat> Should i use LVM for a server(if i plan on switching to RAID later on)
[06:09] <histo> rohan_: yeah it's calling screen what is the error again?
[06:10] <histo> rohan_: why on earth they are using screen is beyond me though.
[06:10] <Ben64> rohan_: you should maybe find a better script
[06:11] <histo> that is just silly, perhaps they haven't heard of nohup
[06:11] <Ben64> its minecraft people, they only use linux because you can easily get a linux vm
[06:12] <histo> ahhh
[06:12] <rohan_> histo: Here is the error:
[06:12] <rohan_> * CraftBukkit was not already running. Starting...
[06:12] <rohan_>  * Using map named "world"...
[06:12] <rohan_> Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied
[06:12] <rohan_> histo: the call in the script is line 183
[06:12] <syntroPi> maybe even http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man8/start-stop-daemon.8.html
[06:12] <histo> rohan_: can your bukkit user use screen?
[06:13] <histo> rohan_: no it's line 184... but try running screen as bukkit
[06:13] <rohan_> histo: I how do I check, and more importantly, how do I allow them to
[06:13] <Ben64> type "screen"
[06:13] <rohan_> the bukkit user is only for the server called bucket
[06:13] <histo> rohan_: how did you create bukkit?
[06:14] <rohan_> I don't recall now :-(
[06:14] <rohan_> histo I type screen, and it says I can't open the terminal
[06:14] <histo> rohan_: su bukkit -c screen
[06:15] <rohan_> histo: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/23' - please check. is the response as bukkit
[06:15] <histo> rohan_: how did you create the bukkit user?
[06:15] <rohan_> histo: how can I give bukkit permission
[06:15] <rohan_> histo: I don't recall :-(
[06:16] <histo> grep bukkit /etc/passwd
[06:16] <histo> rohan_: ^    what does that command say
[06:16] <rohan_> histo: bukkit:x:1001:1001::/home/bukkit:/bin/bash
[06:17] <Elengil> i would think a very minimized interface could be useful for some of the smaller game servers...
[06:17] <histo> rohan_: interesting..  groups bukkit
[06:17] <histo> Elengil: what do you mean?
[06:18] <xGLaDER> Hi! I'm trying to solve the issue w/ having a shared Dropbox folder over my different operating systems. I thought mounting the harddrive holding the dropbox folder would solve the issue but it seems like there's something more I need to do in order for Ubuntu to "find it". Anyone who knows what I might have to do?
[06:18] <rohan_> histo: perhaps remove that user, and recreate?
[06:18] <histo> rohan_: what is the output of 'groups bukkit'
[06:19] <DeadxBeat> So i used mkpartfs primary ext4 0GB 4001GB and it created the partition now how do i change it to ext4 and mount it as /home?
[06:19] <histo> DeadxBeat: are you still installing?
[06:19] <rohan_> histo: bukkit : bukkit
[06:20] <histo> rohan_: log in a terminal as bukkit and try running screen
[06:20] <rohan_> histo: Idid
[06:20] <rohan_> I did
[06:20] <histo> rohan_: and the error?
[06:20] <DeadxBeat> histo: no, i've already installed using guided partitioning with LVM on the main 120gb SSD
[06:20] <rohan_> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/23' - please check.
[06:20] <histo> DeadxBeat: are you going to be serving media on this drive?
[06:21] <histo> DeadxBeat: why not mkdir /srv/media   and mount it there.
[06:21] <histo> rohan_: screen -ls as bukkit
[06:21] <DeadxBeat> Not the SSD. Just the 4TB HDD that i added, i also want it as the location apache reads from instead of /var/www
[06:21] <rohan_> histo: same error
[06:21] <histo> rohan_: did you su bukkit or actually log in?
[06:21] <rohan_> I su
[06:22] <histo> rohan_: exit out of that ctrl+d and login as bukkit
[06:22] <Ben64> rohan_: is this a local computer or...?
[06:22] <histo> Ben64: he said it was local.
[06:22] <rohan_> Ben, yes I am on it now
[06:23] <histo> rohan_: it's because the user's screen is protected and you are tunneling through another user
[06:23] <rohan_> histo: error was No sockets found /var/run/screen/S-bukkit
[06:23] <Ben64> rohan_: is it actually ubuntu? like you popped in an ubuntu cd/dvd/usb and installed? or is it mint, or kali, or elementaryos, or...?
[06:23] <DeadxBeat> ext4 is still not working
[06:24] <Ben64> DeadxBeat: define "not working"
[06:24] <histo> DeadxBeat: what do you mean?
[06:24] <rohan_> Ben64: fully legit 14.04
[06:24] <rohan_> Ben64: upgraded from 13.10
[06:24] <Ben64> rohan_: ok, then do what histo suggests and actually log into bukkit user
[06:24] <DeadxBeat> Well, i tried the mkpart primary ext4 1 -1 and when i run print it still shows as ext2
[06:24] <histo> rohan_: please log in a console as bukkit and it should work
[06:24] <rohan_> Ben64: I just did to get that last error message
[06:24] <histo> DeadxBeat: lsblk
[06:24] <histo> DeadxBeat: find the NAME of your 4tb drive partition
[06:25] <histo> DeadxBeat: then mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdX#   to format it
[06:25] <rohan_> histo: I am not tracking. I logged out of here, in as bukkit, entered screen -ls and it came back No sockets found /var/run/screen/S-bukkit
[06:25] <histo> rohan_: good now type screen
[06:26] <Ben64> histo: whats the other thing that is similar to lsblk but needs root?
[06:26] <rohan_> histo: it did work that time
[06:26] <histo> Ben64: blkid ?
[06:26] <rohan_> so, does the script need a sleep?
[06:26] <Ben64> histo: thanks!
[06:26] <histo> Ben64: fdisk -l?
[06:26] <histo> rohan_: okay your script is silly
[06:27] <rohan_> histo: bummer, it isn't my script :-/.
[06:27] <Ben64> indeed. starting a minecraft server does not need a 500+line script
[06:27] <Ben64> java -jar blah.jar
[06:27] <Ben64> done.
[06:27] <histo> lol
[06:27] <histo> rohan_: write your own script
[06:27] <rohan_> Ben64: I had tied that, BUT then the server started with a mess
[06:27] <Elengil> wow, i didnt know that NTFS was quite that forward thinking...
[06:27] <rohan_> histo: I had one, the server would start but threw an error message and no one could help
[06:28] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I was wondering if anyone could help me in awesome wm as it displays military time and i want it to show standard time I looked around a lot and cant find anything
[06:28] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HELP
[06:28] <rohan_> histo: Ben64 My script was this: http://pastebin.com/wJzE2QsS
[06:29] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: thats probably in your rc.lua somewhere
[06:29] <rohan_> histo: BUT when the server started it thre an error, and no one knew why
[06:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> histo: Yes yes
[06:29] <Ben64> rohan_: that is still very strange
[06:31] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: look at teh mywibox  section
[06:31] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> the what?
[06:31] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: in your rc.lua file
[06:32] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: ~/.config/awesome/rc.lua
[06:32] <histo> robairt: the chdir part is wrong
[06:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> -- {{{ Wibox
[06:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> -- Create a textclock widget
[06:33] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> mytextclock = awful.widget.textclock({ align = "right" })
[06:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7719919/
[06:37] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: change the local format line
[06:37] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> change it to?
[06:39] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: change %H:%M  to just %I:%M %p
[06:39] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> local format = format or " %a %b %d, %H:%M "
[06:39] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> what the heck
[06:39] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I CAN READ MINDS
[06:40] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: yeha should be local format = format or " %a %b %d, %I:%M %p "
[06:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> local format = " %a %b %d, %H:%M "
[06:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> but change it to just
[06:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> local format =  %a %b %d, %H:%M "
[06:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> right?
[06:40] <histo> yeah just like I typed
[06:41] <histo> local format = format or " %a %b %d, %I:%M %p "
[06:42] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> YES
[06:42] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :histo THANK YOU
[06:43] <histo> GuyThatNeedsHelp: np it's using date format... if you man date you can see why that worked
[06:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> thanks military time made me mad
[06:45] <histo> I prefer it but whatever floats your boat
[06:47] <histo> and i3wm
[06:47] <xGLaDER> Hi, I tried to do a backup of all my files to my server and all the files containing "special chars" i.e. é, ö, etc. got "Invalid Encoding". Why is that?
[06:50] <blueingress> xGLaDER, who  and why create the file
[06:51] <xGLaDER> blueingress: Sorry, come again?
[06:51] <blueingress> xGLaDER, who create the file?
[06:52] <nicolas__> hi guys: I can t read jpeg pictures on ubuntu, do you know if I have to convert it on odt or do I have to donwload a picture reading app, or a codec pack...
[06:52] <xGLaDER> I did. I dragged and dropped the files from my disk to the server in "Files".
[06:52] <blueingress> xGLaDER, maybe you shoulc check the time and the owner.
[06:53] <linuxuz3r> what are containers in openstack
[06:53] <dkorras> hi all, can anyone please help me setup ifplugd so that eth0 starts on boot and switches to wlan0 when cable unplugged and then backto eth0 and disable wlan0
[06:54] <xGLaDER> blueingress: I figured it was an issue w/ the encoding being different in Ubuntu in comparison to DSM (running a Synology NAS). But I've never had an issue using Windows.
[06:54] <histo> dkorras: did you check out the link I gave you yesterday or the day before?
[06:55] <dkorras> ,histo, yes i still cant get the wlan0 to automatiically start
[06:57] <histo> dkorras: did you bond the interfaces?
[06:57] <dkorras> no, just allow-hotplug on wlan0
[06:58] <dkorras> histo, can you please send me that link again, iw ill remove all the config and try ifplugd again
[06:58] <nicolas__> on ubuntu I can't read JPG pictures, how do it please ? THX
[06:59] <dotDeb> shotwell doesn't open them?
[07:02] <xGLaDER> nicolas__: What is the issue? Can't click them, won't show up when doing so?
[07:05] <nicolas__> Pictures re from my android phone. M on my ubuntu 14 computer and I can t read them cause they re in JPG. Do I have everytime to convert them in PNG OR does it exist a kind of codec who automaticly permit me to read it ? Thanks for your help xGlader
[07:07] <nicolas__> ok I ve found Thanks xGlader ;-))
[07:14] <dkorras> histo, now the bond interface wont start on boot, cant find device bond0
[07:28] <lclc> which version of Ubuntu has a C++11 compiler by default (not 12.04)?
[07:31] <cylonmath> For 14.04, I have GCC 4.8
[07:32] <lclc> Yes I hope so, but what was the version Ubuntu version with a C++11 compiler?
[07:32] <lclc> how can I figure that out?   (I do not have an Ubuntu, but I'm rewriting some install-doc files ATM)
[07:39] <meek_geek> hi
[07:46] <ackley> Greetings, how would you like to earn $500 per day?
[07:47] <Beldar> ackley, Don't spam the channel.
[07:51] <cadefy> how can i stop my laptop from going blank (logging out after 10mins or so??)
[07:52] <svetlana> Hi. It is in power saving preferences.
[07:53] <cadefy> it says never suspend tho
[07:54] <svetlana> It is probably a "blank the monitor after..." setting, not suspend.
[07:56] <Hxxx> what other ways you guys use to connect to remote linux desktops? other than ssh tunneled vnc, or solus vnc.
[07:57] <xenoa> adidas network
[08:08] <dididodo> hi... can i install a amd64 version on a i386 box (=backward compatibility)?
[08:13] <_95A31_> Hi guys, I just installed catalyst  but  after restart I have not backlight, in this conditions I can not login. Can someone help me?
[08:14] <lclc> dididodo: that would be upward compatibility (amd64 is 64bit, so newer). WIll not work afaik
[08:17] <dididodo> lclc ... ok thanks
[08:17] <lclc> you can try to build it on your own if you dont find a package :)
[08:18] <nos09> just changed static ip via etc/interface. but i am afraid nameserver is not resolved can anybody tell me how to do that ?
[08:19] <lclc> nos09: http://askubuntu.com/questions/203261/editing-dns-nameservers-in-etc-network-interfaces-without-a-restart
[08:20] <lclc> second line, add something like this dns-nameservers 1.1.1.1 2.2.2.2
[08:21] <nos09> lclc, thanks i saw that .. somehow missed it !! bad nos09.
[08:21] <lclc> :D
[08:29] <chrirc> hi ...i just installed ubuntu 14.04 and want to install ubuntu restricted extras but it says that ..oxideqt-codecs must be removed....what is that package? will i have problems if i remove it?
[08:47] <haiwei> hello everyone
[08:47] <Energy> hello little jew who take creation for african people because you are tightwad !!!
[08:49] <abcminiuser> Hi guys, strange issue here
[08:49] <abcminiuser> I have a custom ARM toolchain I've just downloaded and put into ~
[08:50] <abcminiuser> I've added the path to it to $PATH, and I can run it from the command line
[08:50] <abcminiuser> But my makefile tries to run the same command, and shows a "command not found" error for the exact same binary
[09:01] <iceburnt> hi, what music player you installed the most?
[09:02] <bekks> Good morning ladies and gentlemen, soomeone please can tell "what happened" to my grub, since the menu entries still show "/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-30-generic" but I get a "file not found" until I change them to "/vmlinuz-3.13.0-30-generic"?
[09:05] <pea_> Help. I'm dying
[09:08] <pea_> ubuntu how to install android app
[09:08] <bekks> pea_: you cant.
[09:08] <edition> can't you use qemu?
[09:09] <PhilippeGeek> edition: use virtualbox
[09:09] <edition> or virtualbox
[09:09] <PhilippeGeek> edition: what is your problem ?
[09:10] <edition> nothing
[09:11] <edition> Qemu can emulate the ARM chip used for an Android device...
[09:11] <pea_> thank you
[09:12] <Elpopov> hi !
[09:12] <sveta> hi Elpopov
[09:12] <iceburnt> could you tell me that is there any application like minilyric in ubuntu?
[09:13] <Elpopov> Is this a room for support if problems are directly linked to Ubuntu, or could I find help on wider problems here ?
[09:13] <Elpopov> Thank you
[09:14] <bekks> Elpopov: This is the room you are looking for.
[09:14] <sveta> on wider problems too; ask
[09:14] <Elpopov> Thanks a lot
[09:16] <Elpopov> I got some connectivity problems.We're two in the house running Ubuntu Gnome, and the other don't have the same problem
[09:16] <Elpopov> wich is
[09:16] <Elpopov> I can't access any secured website with a password. (ie mailbox, Facebook, Bank....)
[09:17] <pea__> Which brother can help an iPhone to me?
[09:17] <Elpopov> I've tried with Firefox and Chromium, same result
[09:18] <Elpopov> The strange thing is i can access them for a very short time if I erase cookies etc....
[09:18] <bekks> pea__: Can you rephrase that please?
[09:18] <nos09> pea_, the brother with ming.
[09:20] <Elpopov> (If you think of any other room more fitted to the request, i'd gladly go there and ask)
[09:20] <Elpopov> thank you
[09:21] <nos09> Elpopov, is it shtml pages that you are not able to access ?
[09:22] <Elpopov> Yep, but only the ones that need login and password, it seems
[09:22] <Elpopov> For example, I got no problem with Duckduckgo
[09:23] <nos09> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/41067/cant-access-secure-sites/
[09:23] <nos09> Elpopov, I think that is the problem, is it not ?
[09:25] <Elpopov> I've tried most of these, or there equivalent with Firefox
[09:25] <Elpopov> And when I erase cookies, I can acces the sites for a very short time
[09:26] <Elpopov> And strangely, I had this problem for a week, then it was fine for two, and it started again two days ago...
[09:26] <nos09> Elpopov, i'd imagine you are not getting ssl certificates properly.
[09:28] <nos09> Elpopov, for a try try setting up your time/date (maybe?)
[09:28] <Elpopov> they're correct
[09:31] <Elpopov> it's really strange, it was working again today for like two houres, and then, not anymore
[09:31] <gelos> Hello (:
[09:32] <gelos> Got a lil question for you experts if you don't mind (:
[09:32] <bekks> gelos: so just ask.
[09:32] <gelos> Basically I want to download the entire packages archive so users with not internet access would be able to get them from local server
[09:33] <gelos> no*
[09:33] <gelos> is there a way to create a local mirror or something of that kind?
[09:33] <edition> are these offline users using windows?
[09:34] <bekks> edition: which would be pointless when asking in an ubuntu channel :)
[09:34] <gelos> ubuntu Desktops and some servers
[09:34] <edition> just asking
[09:34] <bekks> gelos: you can create a package mirror.
[09:35] <gelos> something like this ? http://www.packtpub.com/article/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-apt-cacher
[09:36] <bekks> gelos: No, by using apt-mirror
[09:37] <bekks> gelos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[09:40] <gelos> Thanks @bekks
[09:42] <karooga> Hi, I'm trying to cross build packages for armhf.  Anyone had experience with this?
[09:42] <dings> What would be the easiest way for me redirecting trafic comming in on wlan0 to a local socks proxy?
[09:42] <Elpopov> thanks anyway guys !
[09:44] <monkwitdafunk> where can i get the 14.04.0 repositories?
[09:45] <monkwitdafunk> i want to be running a system as soon as i patch and get network time protocol
[09:45] <bekks> monkwitdafunk: So which ubuntu are you running, currently?
[09:48] <monkwitdafunk> i was running precise alternate and trusty desktop
[09:48] <makemyday>  good day ..
[09:48] <makemyday>  i have problem with my usb wireless adapter i  i cant install my driver for realtek 802.11n rtl892cu wlan adapter on my backbox..
[09:49] <monkwitdafunk> should there be a domian address just for downloading torrent files for ubuntu supported software?
[09:49] <makemyday> theres an error while installing install.sh
[09:49] <makemyday> here's the error
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/os_dep/linux/os_intfs.c
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/os_dep/linux/pci_intf.c
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/os_dep/linux/recv_linux.c
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/os_dep/linux/sdio_intf.c
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/os_dep/linux/usb_intf.c
[09:49] <karooga> I'm trying to "apt-get install crossbuild-essential-armhf" but I keep getting "crossbuild-essential-armhf : Depends: libc6-dev:armhf but it is not installable" - any ideas?
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/os_dep/linux/xmit_linux.c
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/os_dep/osdep_service.c
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/runwpa
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/wlan0dhcp
[09:49] <makemyday> rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715
[09:49] <makemyday> Authentication requested [root] for make driver:
[09:49] <dings> makemyday: paste in a pastebin of some kind
[09:49] <makemyday> make ARCH=i386 CROSS_COMPILE= -C /lib/modules/3.11.0-24-generic/build M=/home/someone/Linux/150M Linux/RTL8192CU_8188CUS_8188CE-VAU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/driver/rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715  modules
[09:49] <makemyday> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-24-generic'
[09:49] <makemyday> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `Linux/RTL8192CU_8188CUS_8188CE-VAU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715/driver/rtl8192_8188CU_linux_v3.0.2164.20110715'.  Stop.
[09:49] <makemyday> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-24-generic'
[09:49] <makemyday> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[09:49] <makemyday> Compile make driver error: 2, Please check error Mesg
[09:50] <makemyday>  
[09:50] <makemyday> please help me
[09:50] <bekks> monkwitdafunk: USe a pastebin first.
[09:51] <bekks> !pastebin | monkwitdafunk
[09:51] <bekks> monkwitdafunk: Sorry, tab fail. :)
[09:52] <bekks> !pastebin | makemyday
[09:53] <makemyday> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7720536/
[09:54] <dings> Would iptables be the correct tool to look into to redirect trafic from wlan0 to a local socks4 proxy? (or is there a way to do this with routes?)
[09:56] <makemyday> bekks; ubottu; here the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/7720536/
[10:01] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:01] <cristian_c> how can I know which gpu drives the display?
[10:01] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:01] <bekks> cristian_c: lspci -k
[10:01] <riqo> what's this
[10:02] <cristian_c> bekks, no, it shows the active gpus
[10:02] <bekks> cristian_c: Which is the same, effectively.
[10:02] <cristian_c> bekks, I was told it's not the same
[10:02] <cristian_c> here
[10:02] <bekks> cristian_c: By whom?
[10:03] <bekks> cristian_c: And whats the actual support question behind that?
[10:03] <cristian_c> Vyse007
[10:03] <cristian_c> bekks, it needs to know what command to use to disable the discrete gpu
[10:03] <bekks> cristian_c: So which GPUs do you have, actually?
[10:04] <cristian_c> bekks, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series] [1002:9712] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series] [1002:68c1] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[10:05] <makemyday> ubutto: can you help me
[10:05] <cristian_c> bekks, both active
[10:05] <ManchesterUK> Hi All, is this the help forum please?
[10:05] <bekks> cristian_c: And which one is the "discrete" on you are talking about?
[10:05] <ManchesterUK> Ive just moved from Windows 7 to Linux as suggested by a friend
[10:05] <cristian_c> bekks, they use at the same moment the radeon drivers (this is the reason of 90°C)
[10:06] <bekks> cristian_c: And which one is the "discrete" on you are talking about?
[10:06] <k1l_> ManchesterUK: this is the technical ubuntu support channel. the forums are on ubuntuforums.com
[10:06] <anudas> put question
[10:07] <ManchesterUK> Thanks. Maybe this is the right place for my question, Im running Ubuntu 14.04LTS 64bit on a Toshiba R840 laptop and sometimes my laptop will just hang, the fan kick in and everything freeze. Only way to stop this is a battery pull. Never did it in Windows
[10:07] <cristian_c> bekks, 5000 if I remember well
[10:07] <anudas> ManchesterUK: its hardware problem
[10:07] <bekks> cristian_c: There is no way to disable that one when it is using the same driver as the onboard GPU. All you can do is to remove it from your computer.
[10:08] <cristian_c> bekks, it's a laptop
[10:08] <ManchesterUK> Anudas - Even though it never did it in Windows? Made me think it could be a driver issue?
[10:08] <cristian_c> bekks, and why?
[10:08] <bekks> cristian_c: Why what?
 cristian_c: There is no way to disable that one when it is using the same driver as the onboard GPU. All you can do is to remove it from your computer.
[10:09] <bekks> cristian_c: Because there is no way to do so, as I just told you.
[10:09] <anudas> ManchesterUK:  i mean, its hardware problem
 cristian_c: Because there is no way to do so, as I just told you.
[10:10] <anudas> ManchesterUK: you can try to use live cds of different os
[10:10] <cristian_c> bekks, I don't understand
[10:10] <cristian_c> bekks, I don't see reasons
[10:11] <cristian_c> bekks, why different drivers yes and same drivers no?
[10:11] <bekks> cristian_c: Thats nothing I cant change then. There is no way to do so, if you dont believe in it, you may participate in the OSS community and program your own way.
[10:11] <cristian_c> bekks, but you say 'no' and nothing
[10:12] <cristian_c> bekks, where is it this info?
[10:12] <bekks> cristian_c: Where is which info?
 bekks, why different drivers yes and same drivers no?
 cristian_c: There is no way to disable that one when it is using the same driver as the onboard GPU. All you can do is to remove it from your computer.
[10:13] <bekks> cristian_c: Ok, I am getting tired of explaining things again and again just in reply to you pasting what I just said. Good luck. And stop pasting the things I just said again and again.
[10:13] <cristian_c> bekks, you have repeated 'no', but you have linked no info
[10:13] <makemyday> may i know if debian is better than kali linux?
[10:13] <cristian_c> only 'no'
[10:14] <cristian_c> I can doubt, at this moment
[10:14] <k1l_> makemyday: thats better to ask in ##linux as this question is not an ubuntu issue
[10:14] <cristian_c> So, I've not received a reply about the problem
[10:14] <bekks> cristian_c: I am not going to comment that any further to you.
[10:14] <cristian_c> bekks, ok, I'll aks to other users
[10:15] <cristian_c> *ask
[10:15] <cristian_c> if they know
[10:15] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:16] <makemyday> K1l_: ok thanks :)
[10:30] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, i've read above, but couldn't easily find what problem you're trying to solve, like what would make you want to disable one gpu. could you explain?
[10:31] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, 90°C
[10:31] <cristian_c> overheat
[10:31] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, both the gpus are active at the same moment
[10:31] <makemyday> debian or linux mint?
[10:31] <cristian_c> lol
[10:32] <cristian_c> makemyday, ?
[10:32] <k1l_> makemyday: neither: ubuntu (or ask in ##linux like ltold you last time)
[10:33] <k1l_> cristian_c: look into the driver and if that can make use of disabling one gpu
[10:33] <cristian_c> k1l_, I'd like to use vga_switcheroo
[10:33] <cristian_c> k1l_, but I've found difficulties with the wiki page
[10:33] <cristian_c> in the ubuntu wiki
[10:34] <k1l_> the tell where exactly you got some difficulties
[10:34] <makemyday> what is better? debian or linux mint?
[10:34] <cristian_c> k1l_, a user has given me this command: lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA
[10:34] <cristian_c> k1l_, ok, I link the paragraph
[10:34] <bubble_beam> heylo
[10:35] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, so paste the output of that command to pastie or ghostbin and show us
[10:35] <bubble_beam> i have multiple lan cards in my system
[10:35] <k1l_> makemyday: stop that. this is a technical ubuntu support channel and that sort of qeustions are offtopic
[10:35] <bubble_beam> one on board and one external
[10:35] <bubble_beam> so when i type ifconfig eth0
[10:35] <Sven_vB> bubble_beam, use less lines per sentence
[10:35] <bubble_beam> Sven_vB, okay
[10:35] <cristian_c> k1l_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics#Using_vga_switcheroo
[10:36] <bubble_beam> when i use ifconfig eth0, its hardware adress is shown with full 0's . what should i do about it
[10:36] <bubble_beam> ?
[10:36] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series] [1002:9712] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series] [1002:68c1] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[10:36] <Ben64> cristian_c: if your real problem is overheating, then solve that. don't focus on the gpus
[10:36] <k1l_> cristian_c: where is you problem? is it the wiki page? you cant read it?
[10:36] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, i really meant every part of my request for the output.
[10:37] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, but it makes no sense, because it shows tow gpus instead of one
[10:37] <k1l_> cristian_c: you have 2 gpus.
[10:37] <Sven_vB> bubble_beam, paste the relevant parts of ifconfig's output to a pastebin so we can see it in context
[10:37] <cristian_c> Ben64, gpus is the reason of the overheating -,-
[10:37] <cristian_c> *are
[10:37] <Ben64> cristian_c: incorrect
[10:38] <cristian_c> Ben64, it's correct, instead
[10:38] <Sven_vB> actually, the reason is the gpus working, converting power to heat
[10:38] <Ben64> cristian_c: no, it isn't. a computer will not overheat normally from having the gpu enabled
[10:38] <cristian_c> Ben64, two gpus enabled
[10:38] <cristian_c> not one
[10:38] <Sven_vB> but i think it's valid to shorten that to "the gpus"
[10:38] <Ben64> cristian_c: thats what its designed for, its fine
[10:39] <cristian_c> k1l_, I don't know what command to use to disable the discrete gpu
[10:39] <bubble_beam> Sven_vB, its a different system
[10:39] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, ok, what command, then? :)
[10:39] <Ben64> cristian_c: you should hop over to ##hardware and see if you can solve the overheating problem. likely by taking apart the laptop, cleaning it out
[10:39] <Sven_vB> bubble_beam, then you might have to transfer the output over some network channel
[10:40] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, the command probably was right, you just missed the part about pastie/ghostbin
[10:40] <bubble_beam> well Sven_vB the hardware adress is shown as 00:00:00:00:00:00
[10:41] <Sven_vB> bubble_beam, i see, and what value would you prefer?
[10:41] <cristian_c> Ben64, not, usually with various method , in ubuntu it's possible disable one of these
[10:41] <bubble_beam> something valid
[10:41] <bubble_beam> its original mac adress Sven_vB
[10:42] <Ben64> cristian_c: but it won't even solve your problem. focus on the actual problem, not your assumed solution
[10:42] <cristian_c> Ben64, it's a software problem, windows has already the solution to manage them
[10:42] <Sven_vB> bubble_beam, is the original MAC printed on the device?
[10:42] <bubble_beam> yep
[10:42] <cristian_c> Ben64, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[10:42] <bubble_beam> Sven_vB, yep
[10:42] <Ben64> cristian_c: but it won't even solve your problem. focus on the actual problem, not your assumed solution
[10:42] <Sven_vB> bubble_beam, one idea would be to use MAC spoofing to insert that MAC
[10:43] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, I don't know, I don't remember the regexs
[10:43] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, so i read it's a laptop, and i agree, fix the hardware first. you wouldn't want to have to rely on software working properly just to avoid physical damage.
[10:48] <p137> hey suche ein programm für die erstellung grafischer oberflächen.
[10:49] <Sven_vB> (translating p137:) hey i'm looking for a program to create GUIs
[10:49] <p137> Thx
[10:51] <Sven_vB> if there are no other constraints (that you might want to add), you could start with inkscape
[10:52] <p137> Thank you, i need something for c++
[10:52] <cristian_c> Ben64, many users have solved the problems with this methods
[10:52] <cristian_c> *these
[10:53] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, you are right, but windows has not these problems because it manages the two gpus
[10:53] <p137> Inkspace looks like Adobe Photoshop xD
[10:54] <cristian_c> ubuntu does not this by default
[10:55] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, back when i used windows, there was a possibility it crashed and hung in ways it wouldn't even update keyboard LEDs. also i had cases where it would reboot and not properly restart until i confirm stuff near bootloader stage. i wouldn't want to rely on the graphics driver being able to manage gpus in those states.
[10:56] <reny> gdfgdf
[10:56] <reny> heellloo
[10:56] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, beyond the clean of the pc (that must be done regularly), a correct management of the gpus can get teperature lowers
[10:56] <cristian_c> :)
[10:57] <Sven_vB> indeed. i'm reading up on the logs to see whether you pastebinned the gpu list while i was away ;)
[10:57] <bitcoinassassin> Inkscape, perhaps?
[10:58] <Sven_vB> ok, those logs aren't up to date yet
[10:58] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, ok, but this is the solution that users usually use
[10:58] <cristian_c> why can't I use this solution too?
[10:59] <Ben64> cristian_c: because it still isn't a solution to the problem
[10:59] <Ben64> cristian_c: just curious though, how do you know its overheating
[11:00] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, I've missed your command. This command returns only these info on another pc. This command: lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA
[11:00] <cristian_c> Ben64, system has an indicator to show the temperature
[11:00] <Ben64> cristian_c: well don't believe it
[11:00] <cristian_c> lol
[11:01] <Ben64> amd does not report actual temperatures
[11:01] <Ben64> nothing to "lol" about
[11:01] <cristian_c> it's very strange, it's easy hear the fan noise
[11:01] <cristian_c> and if a pc is hot or not
[11:01] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, as i read in the wiki, that switching only works with the open drivers. an easy way would be to test whether the non-free driver does other magic to manage heat better. (i assume you can use non-free since you compared windows.)
[11:02] <Ben64> my amd cpu is reporting 24°C right now
[11:02] <Ben64> which is impossible
[11:02] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, no, I talk about radeon drivers, the open ones
[11:02] <cristian_c> Ben64, cpu? O.o
[11:02] <Ben64> yes, amd makes cpus
[11:02] <cristian_c> very strange
[11:03] <Ben64> they've made cpus for quite a while
[11:03] <Ben64> in fact, you have one in your laptop
[11:03] <Ben64> the point is, don't believe the number
[11:04] <Sven_vB> also i agree with don't rely on internal heat displays only. if in doubt, rent a infrared thingy from the toolstore. one of my nvidias used to run at 30~32°C for 8 hours and then within 1 second go to constant 129°C. suuuuure
[11:04] <cristian_c> Ben, in this moment 46°C with an amd cpu
[11:04] <cristian_c> *Ben64
[11:05] <Ben64> cristian_c: ok?
[11:05] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, on my computers, I've always found realistic temperatures
[11:06] <Ben64> well i'm telling you, amd doesn't do realistic
[11:07] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, so, did you decide whether to compare the non-free driver?
[11:07] <cristian_c> Ben64, ok, you say your amd cpu temperature is not realistic (24°C)
[11:07] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, in that laptop, there are no closed drivers
[11:07] <Ben64> cristian_c: so you have 3 options. 1) open laptop and clean it, maybe re-do thermal paste. 2) try fglrx 3) do nothing
[11:07] <cristian_c> in Additional drivers
[11:08] <Ben64> cristian_c: what version of ubuntu?
[11:08] <Sven_vB> 4) take it to a shop to have thermal conductivity fixed
[11:08] <Ben64> Sven_vB: yeah i guess, i always do my own work though, that didn't even cross my mind :)
[11:09] <arun__>  
[11:10] <arun__> iii
[11:10] <arun__> l
[11:10] <Ben64> arun__: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[11:10] <arun__> hai
[11:10] <arun__> ya i hava some doubts
[11:11] <cristian_c> Ben64, how I said before the 1st option is very good and mandatory, but it's surely a software problem, also cleaning the laptop
[11:11] <makemyday> how to format usb that is write protected?
[11:11] <Ben64> cristian_c: it surely is not a software problem
[11:11] <cristian_c> an upper temperature respect windows
[11:11] <arun__> that default player ask plugin? how its rectify?
[11:12] <cristian_c> Ben64, it's a software problems, many many cases and experience of users tell that
[11:12] <Ben64> cristian_c: well you are incorrect
[11:12] <cristian_c> Ben64, 12.04
[11:12] <arun__> i need that plugin code
[11:12] <Ben64> cristian_c: try 14.04 and this ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[11:12] <cristian_c> Ben64, fglrx is unable for these gpus on the 12.04
[11:13] <arun__> i am using 13.10
[11:13] <cristian_c> Ben64, nothing isn't a solution for overheating problems
 4) take it to a shop to have thermal conductivity fixed
[11:13] <arun__> hello ban64 rply me
[11:13] <cristian_c> I've not understood :O
[11:13] <Ben64> arun__: i have no idea what you're talking about
[11:14] <Ben64> cristian_c: if it really is overheating, then it is a hardware problem. if you take it to a shop, they can repair it
[11:14] <kostkon> arun__, install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[11:14] <arun__> i cant play any mp3 in Rhythm box,
[11:15] <cristian_c> Ben64, in 14.04 always two active gpus ath the same moment
[11:15] <k1l_> !codecs | arun__
[11:15] <cristian_c> *at
[11:15] <Ben64> cristian_c: again, follow the instructions in the link i gave you
 cristian_c: well you are incorrect
[11:15] <cristian_c> why?
[11:15] <arun__> k i ll try it
[11:16] <cristian_c> Ben64, the overheating is due to two active gpus
[11:16] <cristian_c> instead of one
[11:16] <cristian_c> windowsw disable one or the other
[11:16] <cristian_c> *windows disables
[11:17] <Ben64> cristian_c: i've explained this at length already. this is the very very last time i will do so. overheating is a hardware problem. it is not a software problem. it is a hardware problem. it is not due to two gpus. the laptop was designed with two, so it can have two without overheating. also, the temperature reported by amd is incorrect and it may not be overheating at all
[11:18] <cristian_c> Ben64, in the page yopu have linket, there is: AMD systems:    fglrx or fglrx-updates
[11:18] <cristian_c> (14.04)
[11:18] <cristian_c> Ben64, yes, the laptop is designed with tw gpus, but they are managed
[11:18] <Ben64> cristian_c: i'm aware of what i linked to, yes. that is the driver that amd makes for their gpus, it will manage them
[11:19] <cristian_c> the problem is that in ubuntu I've to set this config
[11:19] <cristian_c> Ben64, I've already told you that no closed drivers are present in Additinal drivers
[11:19] <cristian_c> *additional
[11:20] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, sounds like your laptop, unfortunately, is not designed to work with ubuntu
[11:20] <Ben64> cristian_c: thats why i suggested installing 14.04
[11:20] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, why?
[11:20] <cristian_c> Ben64, in 14.04 closed drivers are not present for these gpus
[11:20] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, a lot of vendors just don't care to make them compatible.
[11:20] <cristian_c> in 'addtional drivers'
[11:21] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, many users solve this problem with varous methods: bumblebee, vga_switcheroo, etc...
[11:21] <cristian_c> windows users are lucky
[11:21] <cristian_c> *various
[11:21] <Sven_vB> for strange definitions of "lucky"
[11:22] <Sven_vB> probably "replying on luck"
[11:22] <Sven_vB> *relying
[11:22] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, because windows drivers already manage this problem automatically
[11:22] <Sven_vB> i mean, i used windows myself some years ago, and still help some windows users make their windows suck less
[11:23] <cristian_c> hybrid graphics
[11:23] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, i still prefer a volounteer-driven OS. it might take a bit longer to get drivers, and not every hardware is compatible, but for my use cases it's still much less worrisome.
[11:24] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, ok, bujt these solution are third-party
[11:24] <cristian_c> *but
[11:24] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, also, if you prefer paid solutions, you're free to hire someone or some agency to provide you with drivers
[11:24] <cristian_c> *solutions (sorry for the typos)
[11:24] <Sven_vB> or to pay the graphics card vendor for providing them
[11:25] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, I'm not saying I want paid solutions, I only reply to ben64 criticism
[11:25] <Ben64> you haven't tried anything and you're all out of options
[11:25] <cristian_c> and to the questions made to me
[11:25] <Ben64> everything suggested to you in the past 24 hours has been met with "nope"
[11:26] <Ben64> so you're free to do what you want, good luck
[11:26] <bitcoinassassin> ... so why do you keep helping
[11:26] <CodeGosu> do amd APU's like Kaveri work fine with WebGl under ubuntu?
[11:26] <bitcoinassassin> I mean it's admirable; but ........
[11:26] <Ben64> this is my graceful exit, bitcoinassassin :)
[11:26] <cristian_c> Ben64, how can I isntall the closed drivers (if there aren''t in the repositories)?
[11:26] <bitcoinassassin> ;-)
[11:26] <cristian_c> *official
[11:26] <bitcoinassassin> Ben64, believe me, I've been there
[11:26] <cristian_c> Ben64, what are you reffering to?
[11:27] <bitcoinassassin> .... sometimes I think "If I just had a long enough stick . . . "
 everything suggested to you in the past 24 hours has been met with "nope"
[11:27] <cristian_c> *referring
[11:28] <bitcoinassassin> so... adding a 3tb drive as a back up drive .... I should just use gparted to format . . . running 14.xxx 64 bit
[11:28] <bitcoinassassin> that was a question
[11:28] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, any other ideas?
[11:28] <Ben64> bitcoinassassin: gparted is perfect for that
[11:29] <Ben64> bitcoinassassin: automatically aligns partitions for best performance
[11:29] <bitcoinassassin> Ben64, that's what I did and it seems to be fine; but there is 5gb at the front of the drive occupied by I don't know what
[11:29] <Ben64> bitcoinassassin: can you show that somehow? pastebin/screenshot ?
[11:30] <bitcoinassassin> Ben64, no, it's on a home server; I think I might have mucked it up trying to do a manual format before I researched the subject .... shoot first, ask questions later
[11:30] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, nope, doesn't look like suggestion will make you approach a solution
[11:31] <bitcoinassassin> Ben64, sorry, and I am on a laptop at my local cafe
[11:31] <bitcoinassassin> forgot that part
[11:31] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, ok, I've said that cleaning is helpful, but it's not enought to obtain good temoratures
[11:31] <Ben64> bitcoinassassin: then i'm not sure. could be reserved blocks, you may have slid the partition start over 5G, or... idk what else
[11:32] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, because it occurs that the discrete gpu is disabled :)
[11:32] <bitcoinassassin> Ben64, yeah, sorry - I will ask later when I'm at home and can post a screen shot
[11:32] <Ben64> bitcoinassassin: no problem
[11:32] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, then i misread, i thought you had cleaned it already. i meant that software solution suggestions don't seem to work within the constraints you set
[11:33] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, ok, clean up done too, but it get the temoerature down, but not enough
[11:33] <cristian_c> because both are active
[11:34] <cristian_c> *gets
[11:34] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, yeah. looks like that (version of your) hardware just isn't made for the Ubuntus available.
[11:34] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, the problem is that no suggestions has been written to disable the gpu :)
[11:35] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, yes, but many users have solved with the method I've listed before
[11:35] <cristian_c> *methods
[11:36] <Sven_vB> if irc can't guess how they did it, you'll have to ask someone who succeeded to do it
[11:36] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, with these methods: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[11:36] <cristian_c> not irc methods
[11:37] <cristian_c> *told on irc channel
[11:38] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, bumblebee, vga_switcheroo, acpi_call, etc...
[11:38] <Sven_vB> well, they seem to not work for you, and seems like IRC can't make them work for you
[11:39] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, no, I don't know if vga_switcheroo is working or noit
[11:39] <cristian_c> *not
[11:39] <Sven_vB> i'd just sell that notebook and re-invest in easier compatible hardware
[11:39] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, I've to try, yet
[11:39] <Sven_vB> oh, ok, then do that
[11:40] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, you are right, hp + dual amd gpu is very bad
[11:40] <cristian_c> *gpus
[11:41] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, no, I entered in #ubuntu to know what command use to disable it
[11:41] <cristian_c> :(
 oh, ok, then do that
[11:41] <Sven_vB> so you want to try vga_switcheroo and don't know how to try it?
[11:42] <cristian_c> because the section (using vga_switcheroo) in the wiki page'it's not very clear for me (the right command to type)
 so you want to try vga_switcheroo and don't know how to try it?
[11:42] <cristian_c> Yes, I've asked this in these days
[11:43] <infinity_> alias hidelevels.set set activity_hide_level parts joins quits nicks modes
[11:43] <cristian_c> but I get always strange replies or absurd  (as the ben64 replies, but in particular, he about each argument)
[11:44] <Sven_vB> well, the wiki says: To test if vga_switcheroo is enabled, look for the switch file: ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[11:44] <infinity_> "/alias hidelevels.set set activity_hide_level parts joins quits nicks modes"
[11:44] <Sven_vB> so if ls can show you the file it's active
[11:44] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, I've already checked it in past
[11:45] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, the switch file is present :)
[11:45] <cristian_c> with sudo ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[11:45] <Sven_vB> then gratis, it's probably working
[11:45] <Sven_vB> *grats
[11:45] <cristian_c> else, it returns denied permission
[11:45] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, no, the wiki page says to type the commands
[11:46] <cristian_c> the check of the switch is only the first step
[11:46] <Sven_vB> so which command would you want to try, or which action to trigger?
[11:46] <cristian_c> 'Enabling vga_switcheroo' and then 'Using vga_switcheroo'
[11:46] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, ok, this is the pioint :)
[11:46] <cristian_c> *point
[11:47] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, it's not clear what command is right for me
[11:47] <cristian_c> this I asked in the past days
[11:48] <Sven_vB> maybe xrandr can help. show us the output of "xrandr" on http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:48] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, ok, but xrandr shows the screens
[11:48] <cristian_c> not the gpu
[11:48] <cristian_c> :)
[11:49] <Sven_vB> yeah, i just poke in the dark and maybe it shows any hints of which GPU is used
[11:49] <cristian_c> I've tried but this doesn't help :(
[11:50] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, but i thank you for the help you have tried to give me
[11:50] <Sven_vB> oh, "Turns off the graphics card that is currently disconnected." sounds good
[11:50] <Sven_vB> try that
[11:50] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, yeah, I've had the same doubt
[11:50] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, an user, yesterday has told me:
[11:51] <kanha_> Hi
[11:52] <cristian_c> cristian_c: How is it confusing? You are using only one of the two GPUs right now. Even if they both are ON, only one of them is being used to drive the output. So this command will just switch OFF the one that is not driving any output.
[11:52] <cristian_c> cristian_c: They both are ON, and which one is driving your display?
[11:53] <cristian_c> Vyse007, how can I know which gpu drives the display? :)
[11:53] <cristian_c> cristian_c: what does this command give you? lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA
[11:53] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, ok
[11:53] <Sven_vB> probably with the command above "Allows you to verify the current state of the hybrid graphics."
[11:54] <cristian_c> Allows you to verify the current state of the hybrid graphics. Typically, there will be two lines of output - one should indicate "Pwr" and the other should indicate "Off".
[11:54] <cristian_c> ah, ok
[11:54] <alexa> When do we expect touch this year?
[11:55] <alexa> I mean Ubuntu touch
[11:56] <Sven_vB> cristian_c, in case we can't solve it soon, please open a forum thread where you keep the first post updated with what you have already tried and what has been suggested, so that when you ask again on IRC, you don't have to repeat it all and users can more easily see an overview.
[12:03] <Sven_vB> does anyone know of this channel's logs that are updated more real-time than those linked in the topic?
[12:10] <DJones> Sven_vB: None that I'm aware of, as long as the logbot that deals with them hasn't fallen off IRC, those logs should be updated on the hour
 cristian_c, in case we can't solve it soon, please open a forum thread where you keep the first post updated with what you have already tried and what has been suggested, so that when you ask again on IRC, you don't have to repeat it all and users can more easily see an overview.
[12:12] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, I don't know if this works but I check surely :) I've already submitted the problem to my locoteam wiki editors
[12:12] <cristian_c> in the my locoteam forum
[12:12] <cristian_c> -the
[12:12] <cristian_c> *localized forum
[12:13] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, anyway, I can open a topic in the international ubuntu forum
[12:13] <cristian_c> :)
[12:13] <cristian_c> thanks
[12:14] <Sven_vB> nah, better use the existing thread, else it will be harder to keep them all up to date
[12:14] <Sven_vB> if you already have a thread for it on the loco forum, you could show us that… well if it's public of course
[12:14] <UnHolyTerror> I have a Dell (Latitude, 64bit) that when plugged into the mains only runs at 800MHz. If I boot unplugged it runs at 1900 MHz (that's the max). Soon as I plug it in it drops again. Anyone seen anything like this? Should I be looking for something obvious? I didn't notice anything in the BIOS but...
[12:15] <cristian_c> Sven_vB, the existing thread is in italian language :P
[12:15] <cristian_c> it's not very useful for english users :P
[12:15] <Sven_vB> oh ok, yeah then a thread in english will help. :))
[12:16] <cristian_c> ok
[12:16] <cristian_c> In bad case I'll do so :)
[12:19] <linuxius> hello! my brother laserprinter (@ airport express) won't print. on a different machine with ubuntu it works. here is the error_log (paste.ubuntuusers.de/419232). can anyone help?
[12:23] <priuon> hello. Is it legal behavior of an app to change modification flags by itself as gmusicbrowser does? (I would deem it illegal ...)
[12:24] <Sven_vB> priuon, probably depends on your jurisdiction ;)
[12:24] <priuon> Sven_vB, how can i prevent such behavior?
[12:25] <Sven_vB> priuon, dunno, i opted for just not using gmusicbrowser
[12:25] <Sven_vB> priuon, maybe an SE linux policy can help
[12:25] <priuon> Sven_vB, gmusicbrowser seems rather well written
[12:25] <Sven_vB> priuon, i'm not sure what you meant with midification flags, could you explain?
[12:26] <Sven_vB> *modi…
[12:26] <priuon> Sven_vB, i had files 440 and gmusicbrowser would change them.
[12:26] <priuon> Sven_vB, chmod +
[12:27] <Sven_vB> oh, file access permissions then. well it's easy, use gmb on a read-only version of your collection. you can make one on-the-fly with bind mounts.
[12:27] <Sven_vB> application permissin frameworks like SE linux might help, too.
[12:28] <priuon> Sven_vB, is a 440 file not read only?
[12:28] <Sven_vB> a better approach might be to re-compile a version where you remove the chmod
[12:28] <priuon> Sven_vB, sounds like a good but time intense solution.
[12:29] <priuon> Sven_vB, i might try changing folder permissions. But i don't see how this is supposed to help
[12:29] <Sven_vB> you'll have to write-protect not the file itself but its directory, or if gmb won't respect that, the entire file system. i'd prefer the latter (a read-only bind mode) as you could still access the files normally from other programs.
[12:30] <Sven_vB> err, bind mount… sorry for my sloppy fingers today
[12:30] <priuon> Sven_vB, it's weird that gmb doesn't have chmod optional btw.
[12:30] <Sven_vB> i'd think it's some strange bug triggering, maybe not directly in gmb
[12:31] <Sven_vB> could be some "share your music easily" solution "fixing" the permissions as it detects any read access
[12:32] <Sven_vB> in worst case, use that new fancy "cgroups" virtualization to make it really only have read access ;)
[12:35] <Sven_vB> and then i remembered user accounts. you could start gmb in an account that doesn't have write access to your stuff, so you won't need a bind mount and still _you_ can change those files.
[12:38] <priuon> Sven_vB, how is the latter done?
[12:38] <priuon> Sven_vB, i really dislike running applications with my accesspriviledges
[12:39] <Sven_vB> priuon, add a user account for gmb, or re-use a low-privilege daemon user if you prefer. setup sudo to allow your desktop user to execute gmb as the gmb user. make a shortcut to invoke gmb via sudo.
[12:39] <serge> bonjour
[12:39] <priuon> that's a apple service is it not serge?
[12:40] <Sven_vB> priuon, depending on access permissions, you might want to make a user group that you share with gmb and chown your music's group to that.
[12:40] <Sven_vB> haha, it just means "hello" in french
[12:40] <Sven_vB> so, hi serge
[12:41] <serge> like  ubuntu  the best
[12:41] <enedil> hi
[12:42] <serge> merci
[12:42] <serge> me from canada
[12:42] <priuon> Sven_vB, i tried setting up some user accounts on mint before with the UNIX administrative tools but didn't succeed in dooing so. I think this case should be less effort as is, am I right?
[12:42] <serge> you
[12:43] <Sven_vB> priuon, just use adduser on the console, avoid any Mint problems
[12:43] <priuon> how do i tell chmod to only change files or folders permissions?
[12:43] <priuon> or is it always done with a find invokation?
[12:43] <nick07> I want to restore a backup, but it looks like I miss the .backup file, I have the .mbr and all the part files, anyone?
[12:46] <priuon> Sven_vB, i have a blind mounted folder now, is it not thoroughly abstracted though? i think it should have the same behavior as the previous folder had, but i'll try..
[12:48] <meek_geek> how can I verify that my ubuntu installation is not compromised ?
[12:48] <domul> lnet
[12:48] <priuon> Sven_vB, so gmb gives an error message now. Can you tell me what the difference is to the unmounted folder?
[12:48] <meek_geek> lnet ?
[12:49] <priuon> does linux check permissions of the mount point folder for all operations within?
[12:49] <priuon> Sven_vB, i am on xubuntu now btw.
[12:52] <whiskers75> meek_geek: `last`?
[12:53] <meek_geek> how can I verify that my ubuntu installation is not compromised ?
[12:53] <meek_geek> whiskers75, ^
[12:54] <whiskers75> meek_geek: run `last`
[12:54] <whiskers75> that lists last logins
[12:54] <meek_geek> ok
[12:54] <meek_geek> then?
[12:54] <whiskers75> pastebin it?
[12:54] <whiskers75> is there anything there that you don't like the look of?
[12:56] <meek_geek> whiskers75, no you are not getting my point I want to verify whether all the packages installed are original from ubuntu
[12:57] <meek_geek> what does pts/1 means ?
[13:01] <enedil> meek_geek: http://www.unix.com/unix-for-dummies-questions-and-answers/8223-what-dev-pts-1-a.html
[13:02] <vak> hi all
[13:03] <vak> how could one disable mdadm no boot? (mdadm runs into an infinite loop and prevents system from booting into Ubuntu) #mdadm isn't any alive now (((
[13:04] <meek_geek> enedil, how r u
[13:04] <vak> i am booting from live CD and am trying to repair Ubuntu that won't boot ((
[13:05] <enedil> meek_geek: hail stallman
[13:07] <JoshDreamland> could anyone tell me if the liblzma-dev package available through apt is the same one available from 7-zip.org/sdk.html?
[13:07] <JoshDreamland> .
[13:08] <meek_geek> enedil, yep did you see aaron's movie?
[13:09] <enedil> meek_geek: nope, so what?
[13:09] <meek_geek> nothing
[13:10] <jellow> meek_geek, if you're checking against corrupt .debs then you can use debsums ( which is in repo )
[13:13] <jellow> meek_geek,  but if you're trying to detect malicious activities / modifications then I recommend you look into tripwire, or aide, integrit, samhain
[13:18] <Sven_vB> re
[13:19] <Sven_vB> priuon, with a read-only file system, folder permissions are either re-arranged so that they even display as read-only, or they may show original permissions any write operation will fail.
[13:20] <priuon> Sven_vB, i noted that the permission flags traverse to the original folder
[13:20] <Sven_vB> priuon, that sounds too complcated for my taste
[13:20] <priuon> Sven_vB, now i really have no clue what has happened. gmb seems to behave legally with both folders now.
[13:21] <Sven_vB> priuon, maybe it wasn't even gmb in the first place. see my speculation about some sharing software.
[13:21] <adamcunnington> Hi,I want to dual boot 14.04 with Windows 8.1 on a barebones machine. An I right in saying if I make a bootable usb for both OS's,I can use ubuntu usb first to use the partition tool but then install Windows first and ubuntu after?
[13:23] <adamcunnington> Also, what partitions would be wise? Ideally data would be shareable across both OSs, it's that possible?
[13:23] <Sven_vB> adamcunnington, data sharing on a partition is the easiest part
[13:24] <Sven_vB> adamcunnington, last time i checked, ntfs support in ubuntu seemed solid
[13:25] <priuon> Sven_vB, thanks for your help.
[13:25] <Sven_vB> yw
[13:26] <AndChat|433929> Sven sorry disconnected, can you elaborate what partitions you'd suggest
[13:27] <meek_geek> jellow, those tools are not documented well
[13:28] <adamcunnington2> Swap, boot, ubuntu system, Windows inc. data?
[13:29] <Sven_vB> well i have /=ext3 /home=ext3 /tmp=ext3 /var/log=ext3 and various data partitions. i don't like swaps.
[13:29] <Sven_vB> i'd prefer /tmp to be a RAM drive if i knew an easy way to restrict its size in a flexible way
[13:30] <jellow> meek_geek, what are you trying to do ?
[13:32] <meek_geek>  ok the problem is a yesterday I did purge smc* ( hoping to remove a gaME CALLED secret mario something ) but it did remove a lot more ( including packages from  xfce4* too ) which i did not notice as i just used the command and went out fr food ; the problem was i guess that it did not ask for confirmation for me the packages and started purging them
[13:33] <meek_geek> I did recover the situation by booting into shell and then installing ubuntu-desktop ( but I believe something is wrong with the installation ) it did remove flash and some plug-ins of libreoffice .. removes java etc
[13:33] <meek_geek> jellow, ^
[13:34] <Sven_vB> if you like to enter experimental commands, better get a lab environment aka automated re-install with puppet or its friends
[13:34] <Sven_vB> in addtition to proper backup, of course
[13:35] <Seannie> I would like to set up transmission bittorrent client. I'm stuck trying to understand the one site's suggestion of creating a new user, but then modifying the new user account to have changed permissions and group access.
[13:36] <Sven_vB> Seannie, which part of it is it you're struggling with?
[13:36] <vak> any RAID gurus?..
[13:37] <vak> how could one disable mdadm no boot? (mdadm runs into an infinite loop and prevents system from booting into Ubuntu) #mdadm isn't any alive now (((
[13:37] <kali-rao> hi
[13:38] <Seannie> well, if i went into system settings and then user profiles, and added a standard user called "example", then from terminal, navigate to user home folder, i should be able to mkdir but i cannot. i don't want to progress with changing user access to groups if i can't create a directory in that folder non?
[13:38] <Sven_vB> vak, are you sure disabling it is better than trying to fix the reason why it's going into loop?
[13:38] <meek_geek> has anyone used testdisk ( recovery program ) on linux ?
[13:39] <vak> Sven_vB: I'd be happy! but I am not yet able to do so! that's why I'd be happy to boot in native OS at least (usung old Ubuntu 13 livecd now)
[13:40] <vak> Sven_vB: mdadm --assemble --scan works fine on Live CD...
[13:40] <Sven_vB> Seannie, better change the name to a meaningful one while it's still easy. might name it "bittorrent" or something. then, to make a folder there, you'll need proper permissions for that. easiest way would be to login as bittorrent, use its identity to make the folder and change the folder's permissions so that your desktop user can access it as well.
[13:41] <Seannie> can i shell to the user account from terminal, or do i have to log off and log back in?
[13:41] <Sven_vB> vak, what kind of damage has happened?
[13:43] <Sven_vB> Seannie, it should be possible to login the BT user without logging out your desktop user. also yes, on a terminal just use "su -l bittorrent" or what username it is. -l for "login"
[13:43] <DrGrov> Hi, running Xubuntu 14.04 64-bit and experiencing that the official Ubuntu repositories in Finland are slowish at the moment. Can I easily switch to Swedish ones but still keep the few extra PPAs I have added?
[13:43] <vak> Sven_vB: i guess HDDs are attached to the SATA ports deferrent than it was before and that's why mdadm stuck on boot.  i guess mdadm is somehow compiled in initramfs and won't read mdconf.conf -- could it be?
[13:43] <jellow> meek_geek, apt-get remove smc* , will remove smc and every package beginning in sm and everything that contains sm. Here is what it would do on my system http://paste.ubuntu.com/7721420/
[13:44] <A1Recon> Remember the Ubuntu 14.04 Freezing problem that I was talking about, well after I return to X from tty, the youtube videos flash like crazy!! I just hope this doesn't bug during a presentaion ..... I am the only one in my class who uses Linux you know!!
[13:44] <Sven_vB> vak, sounds plausible. are you sure doing stuff while mdadm is disabled won't break the setup or data?
[13:44] <A1Recon> ubuntu 13.10 never gave me this problem
[13:45] <bukkit> Can anyone help get a bukkit / minecraft server to start on boot? I am running into issues the various ways I try. Would seem pretty straight forward but not for me :-(
[13:45] <Sven_vB> A1Recon, sounds like a graphics driver problem. which do you use?
[13:45] <Sven_vB> bukkit, does it work if you start it manually?
[13:46] <vak> Sven_vB: RAID stuff in not related to OS in my case and needed for the applications. So, I'd be happy first to disable it
[13:46] <jellow> meek_geek,  as you can see it removes over 600mb of files , don't use apt-get and any regular expression :P
[13:46] <bukkit> Sven_vB: yes, both ways that I attmepted start great manually, not on reboot
[13:46] <hyper320> hi, my Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't start after i put the HDD in my laptop
[13:46] <vak> Sven_vB: it looks like things are hidden in initramfs somehow now... (((
[13:47] <meek_geek> jellow, heh yep man i remember it was removing a lot similar packages but when i saw packages like girl.1 etc i thought its a virus but i have a question
[13:47] <A1Recon> Sven_vB: Nvidia Proprietary driver...because the nouveau used to run my NVIDIA all the time I got like  55 minutes to 1:20 hrs on full battery . But even the proprietary gives me just 2 hrs or a wee bit more...
[13:47] <Sven_vB> bukkit, would it be ok to use a desktop user account with auto-login and use its autostart mechanism to launch bukkit?
[13:47] <bukkit> Sven_vB: let me clarify. Yes it will start manually flawlessly after a startup, not on any reboot. Not sure on a cold boot thought (some say this made a difference to them)
[13:47] <meek_geek> did it ask for any confirmantion msg before purging ? jellow ?
[13:47] <hyper320> hi, my Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't start after i put the HDD in my laptop
[13:48] <jellow> meek_geek, it would have asked for a y/n confirmation
[13:48] <Sven_vB> bukkit, if you'd prefer a shell-y alternative, try the magic "@reboot" time in cron
[13:48] <A1Recon> And the WORST part is I wanted to keep Ubuntu 14.04 for  along time. But this thing makes it unusable
[13:48] <bukkit> Sven_vB: In this case I think it would. I already have a seperate user account specifically for this server and nothing else
[13:49] <meek_geek> jellow, but it did not ; do you recall any stuff thing ?
[13:49] <meek_geek> else why would i want to remove all that man!!
[13:49] <bukkit> Sven_vB: End goal is just that anytime the computer boots, it starts Minecraft server
[13:49] <Sven_vB> A1Recon, i agree on nouveau not being ready yet. can't tell about battery times.
[13:50] <Sven_vB> bukkit, are you experienced in shell output redirection?
[13:50] <hyper320> it works fine on my PC where i installed ubuntu but not on my laptop, i can enter Grub2 though
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Nouveau works great on my Nvidia 6150LE
[13:50] <bukkit> Sven_vB: My default account already auto logs in, the bukkit server account does not, would setting that bukkit account to autologin effect the default, and no I am not that experienced with shell output redirection
[13:51] <A1Recon> I hate NVIDIA. I never got this LAptop for serious gaming. I just wanted it to have good GPU power for those rare times when I needed it.
[13:51] <hyper320> can anybody help me?
[13:51] <Sven_vB> bukkit, having multiple desktop users login is an advanced problem. i'll read a bit about bukkit startup modes.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> bukkit: you can run commands as other users in Linux.
[13:51] <jellow> meek_geek, I'm not sure then, it does on my system when I run through sudo
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: what is the issue?
[13:52] <vak> Sven_vB: do you have any ideas how to disable (or reconfigure) RAID to get through the boot?
[13:52] <Sven_vB> vak, i failed to find a solution to disable madm while the OS is not accessible from inside. maybe someone else knows.
[13:52] <hyper320> ActionParsnip: i installed ubuntu 14.04 on a HDD and put it into my laptop, but it doenst start
[13:53] <meek_geek> jellow, it did not ask me for any confirmation
[13:53] <Energy_> lol
[13:53] <Sven_vB> meek_geek, issuing commands as root IS the confirmation
[13:53] <vak> Sven_vB: i see. Thank you anyway. Should i rather try to get into initramfs console first?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: if you boot liveacD, are the drive UUIDs the same as in the fstab on the installed OS?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: *livecd
[13:54] <Sven_vB> vak, i'd try searching for kernel boot options, maybe you find one that i didn't
[13:54] <meek_geek> Sven_vB, so by typing sudo apt-get purge smc* i prove that i have confirmed and it required no further yes/no ?
[13:54] <A1Recon> Youtube frooze again...
[13:55] <hyper320> ActionParsnip i cant boot on liveCD because my CD burner is broken, and USB doenst work either because it cuts power during boot
[13:55] <michiel81> Hello
[13:55] <A1Recon> As of right now, I hate Ubuntu 14.04
[13:55] <A1Recon> Its official.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: can you boot to root recovery mode from Grub?
[13:55] <hyper320> than stick with 12.04
[13:55] <Sven_vB> meek_geek, yes, the "sudo" was for "surely understood, do oddities"
[13:56] <michiel81> I was wondering does anyone have experience with Touch controllers/touch screens and 14.04?
[13:56] <meek_geek> Sven_vB, Ok thanks a lot
[13:56] <hyper320> ActionParsnip no it gets stuck at IMA: No TPM chip found, activating TPM-bypass!
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: did you upgrade from 12.04 or is it a clean install from CD?
[13:56] <meek_geek> jellow, thanks man
[13:56] <Sven_vB> meek_geek, also be aware that apt-get does queued operations of which you might not be aware that they have been queued. it's one reason why i prefer aptitude.
[13:57] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Clean install from CD.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: did you set your USB to legacy mode? May help
[13:57] <hyper320> ActionParsnip in BIOS?
[13:57] <Guido1> Hello, is there a channel for oracle virtual bo have internet and share folders.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: i see. Well. 12.04 is supported til April 2017. Could use that
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: yes
[13:59] <hyper320> ActionParsnip need to check if my ASUS board support it, i cant see it in my BIOS settigs
[13:59] <michiel81> I've installed Ubuntu i386 on a Intel D525 system with a 'ChenMtech' touch controller, however this touch controller is not in the 'usb_hid' list which causes it to be found as a 'tablet' interface/input. Dev ID 1bfd:3050. I managed to get it to register input and some of the touch 'motions' but i can't get it to calibrate at all.
[13:59] <jellow> meek_geek, no problem in future you can use -s simulate flag with apt-get so for instance apt-get -s remove scary_looking_regex*[] and will list changes and not touch the system.
[13:59] <A1Recon> Action Parsnip: How do I run software update and upgrade from Terminal? apt-get upgrade and apt-get update? Also will it update the Nvidia propritary drivers if, there's a new one available?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: if you installed the driver using the packages, then yes
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ,will run full updates from CLI
[14:01] <A1Recon> TY ActionParsnip
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Np
[14:01] <Sven_vB> A1Recon, consider aptitude ;)
[14:01] <laryu_bsod> how to download spy eye builder
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> !aptitude
[14:02] <YokoBR_> hey guys, i've noticed that latest ubuntu server has only "php5-sybase", and i coundn't find "php5-mssql"
[14:02] <meek_geek> jellow, What does -s do ?
[14:02] <YokoBR_> my mssql connections are not working anymore
[14:04] <hyper320> ActionParsnip it seems my BIOS doenst support USB legecy
[14:04] <michiel81> anyone with touch / touch controller experience?
[14:04] <jellow> meek_geek, No action; perform a simulation of events that would occur but do not actually change the system. There is a more comprehensive in manual files, so "man apt-get"
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> meek_geek: read the man page and find out......
[14:04] <meek_geek> jellow, ok
[14:06] <thomasfuston> Aloha, got a lil' problem with a brother DCP laserprinter here; I am using ubuntu 12.04 and the driver is installed, but the prints are unclean, below every g and p  there are black prints wihtout reason, any clue what could cause this?
[14:06] <meek_geek> jellow, so its like you see it and it does not do it ; a demo basically
[14:06] <jellow> meek_geek, yes
[14:09] <michiel81> So i take it no one here can help me with my touch related problems?
[14:11] <hyper320> hi, my ubuntu doenst start on my laptop where i put in the HDD with ubuntu
[14:13] <hyper320> hi, my ubuntu doenst start on my laptop where i put in the HDD with ubuntu
[14:14] <manaar333> where is the french part of ubuntu
[14:14] <manaar333> ?
[14:16] <hyper320> #ubuntu-fr
[14:16] <hyper320> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[14:16] <hyper320> #ubuntu-fr-meeting
[14:16] <hyper320> #ubuntu-fr-offtopic
[14:20] <Guest51889> software updater is giving me the error:  not enough free space on disk `/boot`
[14:25] <ikonia> Guest51889: then remove some legacy kernel packages
[14:25] <ikonia> Guest51889: that will clear up space on /boot
[14:26] <emileb> hi all does anyone know an apt-package with the nginx-upload module? nginx-extras says it does, but it doesnt.
[14:26] <anudas> Guest51889: yes, you can remove other old not used kernels
[14:26] <ikonia> emileb: how does nginx-extras say it does but doesn't
[14:26] <anudas> Guest51889: also, there are unused modules in /var/usr/src/
[14:27] <ikonia> here should be nothing in /var/usr
[14:27] <ikonia> there
[14:27] <anudas> Guest51889: modeules, libs, etc.
[14:27] <emileb> ikonia: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/amd64/nginx-extras says it has the upload module. But after installing its not in the nginx -V
[14:27] <ikonia> there should be no such directory
[14:27] <ikonia> as /var/usr
[14:27] <anudas> /var/usr/src
[14:28] <ikonia> /var/usr should not exist
[14:28] <ikonia> emileb: just having a read
[14:28] <anudas> ikonia: you have maybe different version
[14:28] <ikonia> anudas: nope
[14:29] <emileb> ikonia:  maybe upload module got superseeded with something or am i missing somethign
[14:29] <anudas> aha, exuse me ,,, /usr/src
[14:29] <ikonia> emileb: so are you reading "3rd party modules" and you think it includes sthose ?
[14:30] <emileb> ikonia: Yep. It says third party, but it does for instance have the upload-progress but just not th eupload
[14:30] <ikonia> emileb: that seems most odd, where on the file system is the upload progress module
[14:32] <anudas> by the way, is there possibility to install unity web player?
[14:32] <ikonia> anudas: as in the games engine unity ?
[14:32] <anudas> ikonia: yes
[14:33] <ikonia> anudas: what does the unity website say about linux support for the web player ?
[14:33] <anudas> ikonia: nothink
[14:33] <ikonia> anudas: so it actually has no reference to any linux support
[14:33] <anudas> ikonia: there is windows and mac
[14:33] <anudas> ok
[14:34] <ikonia> anudas: so there is your answer, "no" only windows and mac
[14:35] <cfhowlett> anudas you could attempt installing in wine but expect little in the way of success or support
[14:35] <ikonia> I wouldn't waste your time
[14:35] <ikonia> considering the cost of unity
[14:35] <ikonia> I'd want it to work %101 and have support
[14:35] <anudas> cfhowlett: ok >/]
[14:38] <den> Hey can any of you help me with Jack?
[14:39] <cfhowlett> den probably more help in #opensourcemusicians or in #ubuntustudio
[14:39] <den> Alright thanks. Sorry about that.
[14:44] <bjensen82> my /boot partition is full. Which files are safe to delete?
[14:44] <ikonia> bjensen82: none
[14:45] <ikonia> bjensen82: use the package manager to delete unused kernel packages
[14:45] <bjensen82> well when I do an apt-get upgrade it fails because there is no room on the device
[14:45] <ikonia> right, so don't do that
[14:45] <ikonia> delete legacy kenrel pages
[14:45] <ikonia> packages
[14:46] <bjensen82> umm how can I get apt-get to output the related ones?
[14:46] <ikonia> bjensen82: you don't
[14:46] <ikonia> open the package manager, and delete unused kernel packages,
[14:46] <ikonia> linux-image would be a good search term
[14:47] <bjensen82> I dont xwindows installed..
[14:47] <philinux> bjensen82;~ I run this one liner, always do the dry run first, step 6 > http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[14:47] <bjensen82> philinux: cool thanks
[14:48] <philinux> bjensen82;~ it will leave you with the latest kernel
[14:51]  * Koushik Hello Everyone !!
[15:10] <philinux> bjensen82;~ had to reboot, did it work?
[15:10] <bjensen82> yeah it worked. thanks mate
[15:11] <meek_geek> Does Ubuntu ship with rootkit scanner by default ?
[15:11] <ikonia> no
[15:11] <k1l> meek_geek: no. but you can install from ubuntu repos
[15:12] <meek_geek> ikonia, I think Ubuntu need to ship more and more secure stuff by default
[15:12] <ikonia> then you think wrong
[15:12] <ikonia> a rootkit scanner is not "secure stuff"
[15:12] <Madeleine21>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://j.mp/1sOLjk7
[15:12] <ikonia> it's just a wothless app
[15:12] <ikonia> meek_geek: please don't spam them here
[15:12] <ikonia> oops
[15:12] <Kartagis> how can I find out whether my ctrl+space is hijacked by an application?
[15:13] <ikonia> Madeleine21: please don't spam videos here
[15:13] <k1l> meek_geek: think about it: what sense would make a rootkit scanner if the image was already compromised? so either you trust the official ubuntu iso or you dont install it at all
[15:13] <meek_geek> k1l, I see
[15:14] <meek_geek> but are rootkit scanners needed  ?
[15:14] <ikonia> they can be useful
[15:14] <meek_geek> Linux kernel does not by default have such measures ?
[15:14] <ikonia> meek_geek: the linux kernel is not a file system scanner
[15:15] <k1l> meek_geek: its not a one-click-and-all-is-fine solution. you need to know what you are doing. and most regular users dont know
[15:15] <meek_geek> most users don't even have firewall set to on
[15:15] <ikonia> ubuntu sets basic rules by default to on
[15:16] <meek_geek> ok
[15:18] <meek_geek> ikonia, have you ever seen a rootkit on your computer ?
[15:18] <ikonia> no, but I have seen it on other peoples machines
[15:19] <dididodo> hi ... i'm a bit afraid of upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04, thereby risking that my classic gnome desktop and other things will not work anymore or i have to spent hours and days to tweak them back to normal. any comments?
[15:20] <meek_geek> ikonia, What do you have to say about the security of ubuntu ?
[15:21] <cfhowlett> dididodo 12.04 is supported until 2017.  enjoy.
[15:21] <k1l> meek_geek: security on the system relys on the behaviour of the user. if you install stuff from any webpage you find there is a lot more risk of getting bad software into your system, for example
[15:21] <ikonia> meek_geek: not much
[15:21] <robynata> :-D
[15:23] <dididodo> cfhowlett, sure, thats plan B
[15:23] <nikomx> Hi room
[15:23] <meek_geek> k1l, Ok I don't install anything but free software from main repos
[15:24] <k1l> meek_geek: well, install fro sources you trust. and if you isntalled ubuntu you already trust ubuntu and so the official ubuntu sources.
[15:25] <meek_geek> k1l, but ubuntu is not trusted widely and they ask to switch to Trisquel or Debian
[15:25] <meek_geek> is it because of the Spyware story ?
[15:25] <ikonia> meek_geek: who says it's not trusted ?
[15:26] <ikonia> I know of many businesses and educational research units trusting ubuntu without question
[15:26] <meek_geek> ikonia, Jacob - the tor guy, prism-break.org, RMS, and many other people
[15:27] <ikonia> meek_geek: right, so prism-break.org = the most stupid website I've even seen - written by foolish poeople,
[15:27] <k1l> meek_geek: that is a agenda from one special group. if you not only read the FUD you will see that its not about security in first place.
[15:27] <ikonia> meek_geek: RMS = one guy out of touch with the real world and often laughed at
[15:27] <dididodo> meek_geek, trust is relative, different people have different ideas about it
[15:27] <cfhowlett> perhaps a discussion best continued in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:27] <k1l> cfhowlett: meek_geek yep
[15:27] <ikonia> meek_geek: a few people making unbalanced and sometimes foolish statements does not mean ubuntu is not trusted
[15:27] <liupp> hello
[15:28] <ikonia> meek_geek: the key factor is do "you" trust ubuntu
[15:28] <ikonia> nothing else matters
[15:28] <robynata> :-*i love open source all free
[15:28] <nikomx> 😃
[15:28] <dididodo> meek_geek, RMS is right on many things but likely not  on all things
[15:28] <nikomx> Me too roby
[15:29] <robynata> :)linux is the best one
[15:29] <liupp> good night
[15:29] <liupp> everybody
[15:30] <meek_geek> dididodo, but Ubuntu has that contract with Amazon.com about the search queries
[15:30] <robynata> ubuntu 14.04 is beutifull:-*
[15:30] <meek_geek> also it ships with non-free blobs in the kernel unlike Debian
[15:30] <ikonia> meek_geek: which ones ?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> meek_geek so use debian then ...
[15:31] <robynata> you cant stop that
[15:31] <k1l> meek_geek: i think that topic is way beyond technical support and better fits the discussion channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:32] <codephobic> hi
[15:32] <codephobic> is .bashrc removed from Ubuntu 14.04? I can't seem to find .bashrc, .bash_aliases or even .bash_profile in my home directory.
[15:33] <k1l> codephobic: press ctrl+h for hidden files in nautilus
[15:33] <robynata> i am poor man:)open source give me original sofware,thank to open source comunity
[15:34] <codephobic> klaas, I've already set hidden files to show
[15:34] <codephobic> no .bash_aliases and no .basrc
[15:34] <codephobic> :(
[15:39] <bt> Hi everyone
[15:40] <meek_geek> cfhowlett, ok
[15:40] <robynata> hi
[15:40] <meek_geek> k1l, i was just curious
[15:44] <meek_geek> after running chkrootkit it says Searching for Suckit rootkit...                             Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED
[15:49] <OerHeks> meek_geek, lots of false positives possible, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636231
[15:51] <meek_geek> OerHeks, I see
[15:52] <streulma> Maybe the wrong channel. Im using ubuntu forever. But my HP doesnt turn on. Power led white. No lan led blinking. Turn on for 30secs to lose power doesnt work. New laptop.
[15:52] <cfhowlett> streulma power supply LED = white?  on my dell = fried power supply
[15:54] <streulma> cfhowlett turn on with battery only doesnt works
[15:55] <cfhowlett> streulmay   remove the battery and try AC onl
[15:55] <streulma> Tried also cfhowlett no thing...
[15:55] <cfhowlett> streulma "new laptop"  warranty + RSA.  contact your vendor.
[15:56] <streulma> But how come that my notebook is so brain dead :(
[15:56] <dkorras> hi all, please can you help me. I am at my wits end here. To setup my ubuntu machine automatica LAN and WLAN switch with ifplugd, i have tried all the configurations I can find but nothing seems to work
[15:57] <cfhowlett> streulma it's a HARDWARE issue, not an ubuntu issue.  contact HP
[15:57] <vak> how could one disable mdadm no initramfs phase of the boot? (mdadm runs into an infinite loop and prevents system from booting into Ubuntu) #mdadm isn't any alive now (((
[15:57] <vak> s/no/on
[15:59] <OerHeks> streulma, "removed battery & ac power, push power button 10 sec and insert battery again" sometimes help
[15:59] <moises> hola
[16:00] <cfhowlett> !es|moises
[16:01] <moises> helli
[16:01] <moises> hi
[16:01] <cfhowlett> moises ask your ubuntu question
[16:02] <moises> no probl
[16:02] <moises> thank
[16:05] <Igramul> Hi, is there a file system driver that provides an encrypted view to a plaintext file system, i.e., the inverse of what encfs and ecryptfs do?
[16:08] <Igramul> The use-case would be to provide an encrypted view to local storage for cloud backup software.
[16:08] <Igramul> Without the encryption overhead for normal (local) usage of the storage.
[16:13] <eam> is this really the direction for ubuntu going forward? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition
[16:13] <eam> appears to be an extremely broken approach
[16:14] <touil1976> Hello everybody. I'm trying to set up my ubuntu installation. I would like to create a user session which reinitialise itself every time the user logs in. Like a guest session. How can I do this ?
[16:16] <enedil> touli1976: Use a guest session?
[16:17] <rypervenche> Igramul: I think you would want to perhaps create an image that is encrypted with LUKS that you then mount and use, and you have your backup software backup the image which is encrypted.
[16:18] <enedil> touil1976: Use a guest session?
[16:18] <enyel> hello
[16:18] <touil1976> I know how to customize a guest session following some ubuntu help pages. But I fail at having a folder that is not erased when I log out.
[16:18] <enyel> somebody can help me with ubuntu?
[16:19] <Beldar> enyel, Post your problem for help. ;)
[16:19] <Igramul> rypervenche: Sure, this would be one possibility. However, I'd like to avoid the encryption overhead on the NAS in my home network and the problems of concurrent access to encrypted storage.
[16:19] <GothPaw> interestingly, I just bought 3 external drives; all 3TB.....  2 read and work perfectly without issues, both showing correct sizes..... the third one however keeps showing an incorrect  size and Im not sure what is wrong. any suggestions?
[16:19] <enyel> my ubuntu system doesnot  shutdowm
[16:20] <Igramul> GothPaw: Same vendor/type?
[16:20] <basketball> hey i installed pamusb so i can use my flashdrive to log in
[16:20] <enyel> only close cession but doesnt shutdowm what i need to do?
[16:20] <basketball> how do i have it where my password works if the usb isnt plugged in
[16:20] <GothPaw> Igramul: yes... all drives are identical drives.
[16:21] <GothPaw> and oddly if I plug all 3 into my wife's windows laptop, all 3 work properly and all 3 are the correct size. this only happens when I plug them into my Ubuntu boxes
[16:21] <Beldar> basketball, This an encrypted install?
[16:21] <enyel> Beldar i have 2 operating system instaled
[16:21] <basketball> Beldar,  of ubuntu?
[16:21] <Igramul> GothPaw: What file systems do you use? Pre-formatted?
[16:22] <Beldar> basketball, Whatever you are accessing with the usb.
[16:22] <touil1976> Can anyone give some help for my problem ?
[16:22] <basketball> Beldar,  i did this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBwQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dlt_qFnP149g&ei=Qj2wU7i4Is-gogSdzILYDg&usg=AFQjCNEky7wYTTNdn-c_vcrpPKYtfJ878w&sig2=ouPM6hcLd-pfTxoH9vycPQ&bvm=bv.69837884,d.cGU
[16:22] <rypervenche> Igramul: Well if you want something encrypted, you have to encrypt it :P
[16:23] <GothPaw> Igramul: Its showing a msdos part on all 3. all 3 are ntfs preformatted. plug and play out of the box (WD My Book)
[16:23] <Beldar> basketball, THat does not answer my question
[16:23] <north> Hi. I upgraded my RAM hardware from 2 GB to 6GB. But system information still shows 2 GB, while BIOS shows 6 GB. Any inputs on how to update the information for Ubuntu ? and get my OS to use this extra piece of hardware I installed ?
[16:23] <Igramul> rypervenche: ;) sure - I was looking for something like BoxCryptor
[16:24] <enyel> my ubuntu operating system doesnt poweroff .how can i fix it?
[16:24] <basketball> Beldar,  then idk what you are asking
[16:24] <rypervenche> Igramul: Ah, well you could get something like SpiderOak or Owncloud to do that then.
[16:25] <north> Any input is appreciated. please
[16:25] <St_Marx> north, is it a 32-bit kernel?
[16:26] <north> Yes.
[16:26] <north> And my proc also supports 32-bit
[16:26] <St_Marx> maybe this is a similar problem, then: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[16:26] <north> St_Marx:
[16:26] <Igramul> rypervenche: This has two disadvantages: vendor-lock-in and having to trust the vendor
[16:27] <nuget102> Hello guys!
[16:27] <north> Do I need to install 64 bit kernel ? St_Marx ?
[16:27] <basketball> Beldar,  can you rephrase the quesrion
[16:27] <nuget102> I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to create a backup CD without download software? Or is the best/easiest way just to download something?
[16:27] <bekks> north: For using more than 4GB on 32Bit, you need a PAE kernel.
[16:27] <Igramul> rypervenche: Nevertheless, thank you. I will use ecryptfs and have the backup software access the encrypted files.
[16:27] <St_Marx> or a PAE kernel, north?
[16:27] <north> Oh ! how do I get it ?
[16:28] <Beldar> basketball, Is the operating system you are accessing with the usb encrypted if not I could get into your HD's in the time it takes to boot a supergrub disc or a ubuntu live.
[16:28] <rypervenche> Igramul: owncloud is open-source, but yeah
[16:28] <bekks> north: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae
[16:28] <basketball> Beldar,  no it is not encryped
[16:28] <St_Marx> north, check the "Option 2." there, or google "install PAE kernel on Ubuntu"
[16:29] <north> cool. Will get back if it doesn't work
[16:29] <north> Thanks guys
[16:29] <St_Marx> yw
[16:29] <Beldar> basketball, So is the the usb for protection?
[16:29] <basketball> Beldar,  no to save time
[16:29] <basketball> where i just plug it in and it types my password
[16:30] <Beldar> basketball, this a really long pasword?
[16:30] <basketball> but i also want to be able to type my password if i dont have the flashdrive with me
[16:31] <Beldar> basketball, A manual boot will should get you to log in.
[16:31] <basketball> Beldar,  no at the login screen i want to also be able to type in password if i dont have usb
[16:31] <basketball> but when i do it says incorrect password even though it is correct
[16:32] <Beldar> basketball, Does this usb have the grub boot besides the auto password?
[16:32] <basketball> Beldar,  i boot into ubuntu normally then i put in usb and press login and it logins for me
[16:33] <meccooll> netstat result tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN does that mean it's also listening on ipv4 too???
[16:33] <OerHeks> basketball, try auth required > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1159457
[16:34] <nuget102> Can anyone tell me how to make a backup CD? All the tutorials seem to say I need to download some program. Is there Ubuntu has by default I could use?
[16:34] <OerHeks> errr "auth sufficient" means that device isn't required for authentication.
[16:35] <Beldar> basketball, Ah, not sure what to say if your password is just not working now at the login, never used the tool.
[16:35] <OerHeks> nuget102, brasero should do that, making an image of a media
[16:36] <nuget102> I mean to make a ubuntu backup disk, so I can reinstall ubuntu if I need to?
[16:37] <OerHeks> there is a backup utility standard installed ( 14.04)
[16:37] <Beldar> nuget102, You mean as exactly the same as you have it tweaked now?
[16:38] <nuget102> Well I don't have it tweaked, but my latest installation disk is version 11.10, it takes me about 2-3 hours to re-update if I do have to re-download ubuntu.
[16:39] <shorty> hello
[16:39] <nuget102> I'm running ubuntu 12.04, is there a way I can update it? :P
[16:40] <Beldar> nuget102, You need at the least a disc with a supported release. Having the 14.04 would be your best bet, you have 5 years support and a the most important tool you could have for repiars and a reinstall.
[16:41] <Beldar> nuget102, er 12.04 than
[16:41] <nuget102> So I should keep 12.04...?
[16:42] <GothPaw> Igramul: Its showing a msdos part on all 3. all 3 are ntfs preformatted. plug and play out of the box (WD My Book)
[16:42] <histo> !upgrade | nuget102
[16:42] <Beldar> nuget102, You can have what you want, the point is have a disc of that release as well.
[16:42] <histo> OerHeks: what backup utility do they have in 14.04 standard?
[16:42] <nuget102> I would prefer the latest stable release. Is that 14.04?
[16:42] <histo> nuget102: yes 14.04 is LTS
[16:43] <histo> nuget102: when 14.04.1 comes out you can upgrade directly from 12.04
[16:43] <shorty> hello histo
[16:43] <Igramul> GothPaw: hmm... I'm running out of ideas. How do you meter the size on linux?
[16:43] <nuget102> thank you Beldar and histo; i'll update to 14.04 then make a backup of that. :3
[16:43] <OerHeks> Deja Dup
[16:43] <Igramul> GothPaw: Maybe check "dmesg" for the reported media size.
[16:43] <histo> nuget102: Why are you upgrading to make a backup STOP
[16:44] <histo> nuget102: make a backup now,  when 14.04.1 comes out, then you upgrade to that directly from 12.04
[16:44] <Igramul> GothPaw: Then check the partition table with gpartd or fdisk (do NOT change it with that tools).
[16:44] <shorty> apologies in advance for the lentghty text. here it comes: i have a laptop with win7 and ubutnu in dual boot mode with wubi installer. when i boot i get this error : bootmgr missing ctrl alt del to restart. there's nothing that needs to be recovered. someone suggested to do download an ubuntu iso(on windows machine) and reinstall ubuntu from disk
[16:44] <nuget102> oooh I misunderstood you, my bad. xD
[16:44] <Beldar> GothPaw, If they are all plugged in can you run sudo parted -l and pastebin the output.
[16:44] <shorty> this does not seem to work
[16:45] <shorty> my question: does the harddrive need to be empty for this?
[16:45] <shorty> i burned 5 cd's
[16:46] <Beldar> shorty, wubi is not supported, and a bad idea.
[16:46] <shorty> none of them seem to boot or install.they just get stuck
[16:46] <shorty> yes,i learned this now
[16:46] <kyle__> How do you tell ubuntu which LUKS volumes it needs to boot?
[16:46] <shorty> i just want to fix my machine
[16:47] <shorty> i want to install it proper but  it just doesn seem to work
[16:47] <shorty> i put in the disk and choose : iunstall
[16:47] <shorty> but it gets stuck after a few minutes
[16:47] <Beldar> shorty, fixing that wubi is unlikely, but you can access it from windows and pull what you need to have on a real dualboot.
[16:47] <shorty> nonono,i don't want to fix wubi
[16:48] <shorty> well,also i can not acces the windowws
[16:49] <Beldar> shorty, Your info is hard to follow you are using the enter way to much. Can you state in one post your intention/end goal?
[16:49] <mohab> hiii all
[16:50] <shorty> yes sir
[16:51] <mohab> I have a problem with the file suffix. Sh
[16:52] <mohab> Again I have added a new user and deleted the previous
[16:52] <shorty> Beldar: i followed this to the letter :http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[16:52] <Beldar> !details | mohab
[16:52] <mohab> It is no longer read the files is chased. Sh
[16:53] <Beldar> shorty, Sure, are you booting it to the desktop for the install?
[16:53] <shorty> yes,but it keeps on getting stuck the process of booting that is.
[16:53] <shorty> tried to run it from the cd
[16:54] <shorty> and also tried to install
[16:54] <shorty> this did not work for me,i burned 5 cd's lol
[16:54] <Beldar> shorty, Preface every answer with a nick when addressing others and no need for sir here please, this is just courtesy stuff for your benefit. ;)
[16:54] <shorty> ah yes sorry Beldar
[16:55] <Beldar> shorty, Black screen on boot?
[16:56] <shorty> Beldar: no purple,with ubuntu and then an animation like a .gif where you see 5 little dots loading up soto speak
[16:56] <Beldar> !md5sum | shorty
[16:56] <shorty> checksum
[16:56] <shorty> i see
[16:57] <Beldar> shorty, YOU using a dvd?
[16:57] <shorty> ah yes
[16:57] <Beldar> shorty, Cool, check the sum of the iso is a good start.
[16:58] <shorty> thank you ubottu
[17:00] <mohab> ok
[17:00] <mohab> I have a problem with Plumblvat Alahakh. Sh
[17:00] <mohab> It was working correctly before they Create a new user
[17:00] <mohab> After you create a user and work on it, but from the oldFiles are no longer working and I have tried to run from terminal
[17:00] <mohab> Show me this letter:mohab@mohabo-System-Product-Name:~/Downloads/Xonotic$ ./xonotic-linux-glx.sh
[17:00] <mohab> ./xonotic-linux-glx.sh: 131: exec: ./xonotic-linux32-glx: Permission denied
[17:00] <shorty> Beldar: about the error : BootMGR is Missing press ctrl alt del to restart. any tips that i could try out (instead of trying to do a new installation over it) maybe like a linux recovery tool??
[17:02] <shorty> Beldar i answerred that question myself
[17:02] <mohab> Do you have an idea for a solution to this problem؟؟
[17:02] <meet> hi. i have ubuntu1404 based system. everything was working fine but from yesterday getting errors to do sudo tasks. my user is not allowed to execute commands with sudo. I think the following commands are responsible which I did for some software. sudo usermod --group audio,video,fuse,cdrom,plugdev xbmc .  sudo usermod --group audio,video,fuse,cdrom,plugdev meet   sudo adduser meet users. am i correct? how to undo?
[17:03] <Smashcat> Hi, anyone know how to update openssl on Ubuntu 13.04 to the latest version to fix this week's vulnerability?
[17:03] <Beldar> shorty, THat is the wubi error right?
[17:04] <Smashcat> I'm currently patched for heartbleed, but not the tested one
[17:04] <shorty> well ,acually i think it's bios.but i'm not sure
[17:04] <Smashcat> s/tested/latest
[17:04] <shorty> Beldar: well ,acually i think it's bios.but i'm not sure
[17:04] <mohab> I have a problem with Plumblvat Alahakh. Sh
 It was working correctly before they Create a new user
 After you create a user and work on it, but from the oldFiles are no longer working and I have tried to run from terminal
 Show me this letter:mohab@mohabo-System-Product-Name:~/Downloads/Xonotic$ ./xonotic-linux-glx.sh
 ./xonotic-linux-glx.sh: 131: exec: ./xonotic-linux32-glx: Permission denied
[17:07] <Beldar> shorty, This a windows boot error, bootmgr is a bcd
[17:08] <Beldar> afk shorty
[17:08] <shorty> Beldar :ah, well an windows repair disk doens help this either
[17:08] <atrx> dos Santo got it
[17:08] <shorty> thanks anyway
[17:09] <histo> Smashcat: 13.04 is end of life so it's not receiving security updates
[17:09] <histo> !eol | Smashcat
[17:11] <Smashcat> histo: I managed to use a debian package to update it last time for heartbleed, but can't remember here I got that deb package from. Wondering if anyone else has done the same and has the package for this version. I undertand what EOL means.
[17:11] <histo> Smashcat: then whyt have you not migrated from an EOL release yet?
[17:12] <Smashcat> histo: There are reasons, it's acloud server and cannot be taken offline to update
[17:12] <histo> Smashcat: You should run LTS on a server
[17:12] <Smashcat> histo: Do you have anything useful to add, or just want to argue?
[17:12] <histo> Smashcat: I'm not arguing just trying to figure out, why you haven't updated.
[17:13] <Smashcat> I inherited this, and it cannot currently be taken offline to update
[17:14] <histo> Smashcat: what is the output of openssl version -b
[17:14] <Smashcat> built on: Mon Apr  7 20:33:19 UTC 2014
[17:15] <Smashcat> It was just after the heartbleed fix
[17:15] <Beldar> shorty, You are jumping between issues one ubuntu the other windows lets get a bootable ubuntu disc so we can run a script to diagnose the windows boot if you want to fix it and it's just that bootmgr error.
[17:15] <histo> Smashcat: Yes,
[17:15] <histo> Smashcat: you can try installing the deb from a different version of ubuntu and hope to not experience dependency hell.
[17:16] <Smashcat> histo: Hmm, Can't hurt I suppose. At worst it won't install I guess...
[17:16] <histo> Smashcat: What is the output of dpkg -l | grep openssl
[17:17] <Smashcat> ii  openssl 1.0.1c-4ubuntu8.2  amd64
[17:17] <noel__> Bonjour
[17:17] <histo> Smashcat: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/openssl
[17:18] <eeee> !fr | noel__
[17:18] <noel__> Merci
[17:18] <Smashcat> histo: Thanks, I think I've tried this, but I'll check again.
[17:19] <histo> Smashcat: if it breaks your server, you've been advised to upgrade.
[17:19] <histo> Smashcat: What is the ultimate plan for this machine? At some point you will have to upgrade.
[17:19] <Smashcat> histo: I've cloned the server so I can check on that first
[17:19] <shorty> Beldar: i'm not at home,since i can't use my laptop to go online. i'm at a friend now. and i don't have my laptop with me to be honest.
[17:20] <eeee> how can i check if an ubuntu server allows users to use certain ports?
[17:20] <Smashcat> histo: Ultimately I'll be migrating to a new instance, but the current one has too many high-usage sites to migrate them all off at the moment
[17:20] <histo> eeee: what ports and what users?
[17:20] <Beldar> shorty, Ah, well do you understand my last point? Get a bootable ubuntu disc and come back for help from it.
[17:20] <eeee> i set up psybnc correctly but when i connect i get no response
[17:20] <Smashcat> histo: I'll probably stick another server in front as a load balancer so I can migrate more easily in the future
[17:20] <histo> Smashcat: when you migrate go to Long Term Support release instead of a point release.
[17:20] <behrooz> when i use sudo , give this error . i don't know what happen . http://paste.ubuntu.com/7722386/
[17:21] <histo> Smashcat: like aim for 14.04 migration
[17:21] <shorty> yes sir
[17:21] <Smashcat> histo: Yep, I know about using LTS - but I didn't set this server up initially. I inherited the mess :)
[17:21] <behrooz> i can't run any command need root permission
[17:21] <histo> Smashcat: yuck
[17:21] <eeee> i set the port to 63829, the user is a standard user
[17:21] <histo> behrooz: is this the only user acocunt on the system?
[17:22] <behrooz> yes
[17:22] <Smashcat> histo: Sorry about being curt earlier - been a rough day with this and some related issues...
[17:22] <histo> eeee: what are you running on that port?
[17:22] <eeee> histo: psybnc
[17:22] <histo> behrooz: boot in single user mode and fix your sudoers or your groups
[17:22] <vak> How could one disable mdadm on initramfs phase of the boot? (mdadm runs into an infinite loop and prevents system from booting into Ubuntu)
[17:23] <behrooz> you means boot to recovery
[17:23] <histo> eeee: netstat -tan | grep 63829
[17:23] <histo> behrooz: yes
[17:23] <shorty> Beldar: i'll be back in in a couple of days
[17:23] <behrooz> ok
[17:24] <eeee> histo: Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address          Foreign Address        (state)
[17:24] <eeee> tcp4       0      0 *.63829                *.*                    LISTEN
[17:24] <histo> eeee: it's listening then.
[17:24] <eeee> could it be im using the wrong server host in irc?
[17:25] <histo> eeee: is there a router in the way or firewall rules?
[17:25] <eeee> i used the shell.host.com (the address i used to ssh)
[17:25] <Beldar> shorty, Cool, we have a script for diagnosing boot issues a windows boot as suggested is a fairly easy fix, however not everyone here will know this fix from the windows recovery disc I can give you the instructions now if you like.
[17:25] <shorty> wow so amaze
[17:25] <shorty> okay Beldar
[17:27] <histo> vak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Initramfs
[17:27] <eeee> histo: not that im aware of, is there a way to see the external ip of the server?
[17:27] <Beldar> shorty, What is the windows release and is it just a boot issue is all?
[17:27] <shorty> win7 and yes just the boot
[17:27] <histo> eeee: ip addr
[17:27] <calp> hello, how should I go about getting a very recent release of the kernel installed as a package?  ie: 3.16-rc2
[17:28] <histo> calp: why?
[17:29] <calp> histo: drivers for my wireless card are patchy, and it's recommended in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1239578
[17:29] <holstein> eeee: you are connecting through a shell provider to irssi or some client running in screen/ssh there? and cant connect to freenode?
[17:29] <histo> calp: you'd probably be best finding a ppa
[17:29] <vak> histo: these basics are known to me... how to disable mdadm in the initrd image? remove mdadm.conf? -- didn't help. Remove mdadm binary? boot crashes into nash console without posibility to type anything in there... any other ideas??
[17:29] <eeee> holstein: yes
[17:29] <calp> histo: how about the instructions on this page?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[17:30] <Beldar> shorty, http://pastebin.com/TCaPxubi
[17:30] <eeee> holstein: more accurately, i cant connect to the running service
[17:30] <holstein> eeee: i had to specify a different port to get through.. what you can do is, connect from your local machine there, and see that you *can* connect to freenode. then, try from the shell.. if you cant, then, you'll know that the issue is with the networking at the host
[17:30] <holstein> eeee: you cant connect to what running service? screen? ssh?
[17:31] <eeee> holstein: psybnc
[17:31] <histo> calp: looks good to me
[17:32] <Beldar> shorty, There have been issues with the wubi doing a grub update and putting it in the mbr, I think that is your issue.
[17:32] <holstein> eeee: i use irssi in screen.. http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/
[17:32] <eeee> holstein: ok thanks
[17:34] <eeee> holstein: it connects to freenode fine i just tried, but the problem is that i cant connect to the running service on the shell (psybnc)
[17:34] <shorty> Beldar: that is actually the first thing i tried,BUT i used a repair disk instead of the installation disk,i dont hva the installation disk. also the commands : FixBoot, ScanOs, RebuildBcd. i got the output: unable to repair the blah (can't remember)
[17:34] <shorty> didn work
[17:35] <calp> does anyone know if eventually 3.16 will eventually make it into ubuntu trusty?
[17:35] <holstein> eeee: i use screen for that functionality, and easily reconnect
[17:35] <Smashcat> histo: Turned out I just needed the library - http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl1.0.0_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.16_amd64.deb - worked out great!
[17:36] <Beldar> shorty, You may only have the boot partition as active, you can make the C main install partition active and it should work, you can do this active work with gparted on the live ubuntu by moving the bootflag to C
[17:37] <Beldar> shorty, Or be sure to point those commands at C in the recovery discs terminal, you have to have to have a bootable windows recovery or install disc
[17:38] <eeee> histo: holstein: thanks for your help
[17:39] <Beldar> shorty, That diagnostic link in the pastebin really is a key link for my help.
[17:42] <captainchris> hi everybody
[17:42] <Beldar> nasa we have a problem
[17:42] <captainchris> i'm french and i search people to speak computer
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[17:43] <Beldar> !topic | captainchris
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 8 GitNick grzegorz__ whitepaws cwill747_ Zesty_ jnoob22 __jae__ Aeyoun ampelbein_ Amoz ryanakca jrib jcrza gyre007 dmibrid popey aaas munz maddawg3 codethought elijah Darkwing yeticry_ Htbrdd devhost nathanr_ grepory aureianimus_ ivaldi zling_ Bercik __NiC cnj Morgawr rusty0102 f00lhardy JZTech101 karstensrage epipercepi_ moyam01_ TheFuzzb_ vilambit_ Daughain frdmn drkokandy Kow Flannel drmeister sins- bdbear debsan newbiemasih Walzmyn Yofun
[17:43] <VaticanCameos> wut
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 60 FreezingCold microto Lil eshlox NCsaba Sven_vB moondoggy diminoten GTAXL chamunks gbence edem mpkossen niee linuxthefish pipeep AnimalFarmPig z0ran CytraNet arlen calcmandan YuviPanda|brb nomic fwaokda gregmoreno Asandari sere Squall5668 Guest84124 mydogsnameisrudy thatsiebguy ambiant cobolt^ ChkDigit meaning marianne_ bhldev Peer69 h00k gregL xMopxShell PcJamesy Jeepbeats Kraln martintrojer vila Looongcat triste_ hennie_ qhartman Alina-malina
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 44 filadome digilink sysop2 melter MohammadAG klaas leagris poimen Paradisee yacc TimeRider krokus NGC3982 ddaysword zeitue iptable lolmaus Adriannom miruoy ktwo JanC ixio2 tomcheng76 ShapeShifter499 sander_ jje glebihan__ Rickmasta robotdevil Sunstream NaStYdoG ssmy bocaneri Ycarene Roswent Wujiheng flaguy48 LeeJunFan mgomezch ggherdov_ jayne SatsukiY xar- livefyre_spy Zarthus yeshuah Fogest OmnIcK someone hxm achernya Beeelow mischief tortib axisys
[17:43] <Ekushey> :o
[17:43] <sireebob> .-.
[17:43] <iDevelop> ugh
[17:43] <williamtdr> !k jemyweetty
[17:43] <DJones> .remove jemyweetty
[17:43] <Ekushey> where's the bot???
[17:43] <Xethron> :O
[17:43] <iDevelop> Someone kick em
[17:43] <captainchris> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck a bug
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 91 GitNick grzegorz__ whitepaws cwill747_ Zesty_ jnoob22 __jae__ Aeyoun ampelbein_ Amoz ryanakca jrib jcrza gyre007 dmibrid popey aaas munz maddawg3 codethought elijah Darkwing yeticry_ Htbrdd devhost nathanr_ grepory aureianimus_ ivaldi zling_ Bercik __NiC cnj Morgawr rusty0102 f00lhardy JZTech101 karstensrage epipercepi_ moyam01_ TheFuzzb_ vilambit_ Daughain frdmn drkokandy Kow Flannel drmeister sins- bdbear debsan newbiemasih Walzmyn Yofun FreezingC
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 9 microto Lil eshlox NCsaba Sven_vB moondoggy diminoten GTAXL chamunks gbence edem mpkossen niee linuxthefish pipeep AnimalFarmPig z0ran CytraNet arlen calcmandan YuviPanda|brb nomic fwaokda gregmoreno Asandari sere Squall5668 Guest84124 mydogsnameisrudy thatsiebguy ambiant cobolt^ ChkDigit meaning marianne_ bhldev Peer69 h00k gregL xMopxShell PcJamesy Jeepbeats Kraln martintrojer vila Looongcat triste_ hennie_ qhartman Alina-malina filadome digilink
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 88 sysop2 melter MohammadAG klaas leagris poimen Paradisee yacc TimeRider krokus NGC3982 ddaysword zeitue iptable lolmaus Adriannom miruoy ktwo JanC ixio2 tomcheng76 ShapeShifter499 sander_ jje glebihan__ Rickmasta robotdevil Sunstream NaStYdoG ssmy bocaneri Ycarene Roswent Wujiheng flaguy48 LeeJunFan mgomezch ggherdov_ jayne SatsukiY xar- livefyre_spy Zarthus yeshuah Fogest OmnIcK someone hxm achernya Beeelow mischief tortib axisys dfcnvt pgar23 Jamme
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 80 eHAPPY kame355 Guest24662 aarcane byte dhruvasagar YokoBR_ lordbachus gueriLLaPunK dpugh kermit JediCheese blueyed vayan mrdavid jpentland rymate1234 danielbw Bryanstein sjohnson apb1963 Noskcaj copec sync0pate warreng jprice null_ref aperson Console levifig RagingComput frobware- Guest34900 ben_alman_ Sweet_Ride VA6DAH bctrainers Rallias Guest67070 Weegee Pimmetje edude03_ TakumoKatekari dropdrive Dragnslicer pedrocr Dave2 mic_e_ shuffleb1t pyoor_
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 29 AncientPC miip_ _KaszpiR_ syst3mw0rm_ mbeierl1 donta dilyanbg1 avelldiroll trvz_ mmazing gonyere_ cubbydubby Crackz0s meebeyx_ rikut_ Rylee dmiller_ n00buntu cebor orst3n_ toastcfh_ module000 typ jtlap__ pythonirc101 MvDevNull aboudreault raggg Arduino ldlework lukecarrier Isolol ageis midnightcommand wallzero kdox- nikita Rory silasary ejnahc convict k1ng drubin ikonia Chaser Multiply malinator AlHafoudh tms Stinky_Feet mwally trevorjay mattrae_
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 61 Rynofear `nik`_ airtonix Thor ItSANgo_ _Trullo jdmf stayonthehustle ryan_46 BoomerBile catalase ecdhe buck_ dw1 marlo_ vital wget mlabbe Guest59131 olegb gusnan qarangyhoralaz AJ_Z0 bdavenport o0ubu0o ceed^ daveX7 Moscherkobold Slumlord_ bazhang__ vivus_ignis eurythmia michaelni RickyB98 otto ballock Versudo eSgr graingert Jac0bz1 Sgtmurder boichev ximian MasterOfDisaster ryan_turner|MTW yellowbig sig-wall APLU Plasmastar LaStik j_f-f IotaSpencer
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 35 lastarms cowbacon KavanS mquin kevin-brown gms3 blocky daftykins Seveas ePirat jemari UnHolyTerror deb NDPTAL86 cmastudios InFierno bazhang gi3 labrador ki7mt btiefert adante esuave drswap2 BaW yubrew `echi ry michael_mbp Fatemeh_ rtr- weltzooo richardn ricksebak conomic chadi niluje thumpba BGL oddie fusa24 NthDegree Magiobiwan NeverHere pdrakeweb anders_office gavinguo Armegeden Flazer Casmo [Derek] KingPin K3dare sphenxes02 zhengyi maddawg2
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 73 supergauntlet raub avantgardist muh2000 stux|work quadHelix tnli DalekSec roentgen TheMaverick` gre- Log1x jose cryptexus eagles0513875 jbroome ramona_ lkthomas mfa298 MrShaY_ Fall_ MagicWad1 data` Janhouse cn28h concatenate seanh tomshreds awakecoding _marix Dry_Lips demom Anarchic` WildSoft themill mhenrixon edong23 Guest78586 gac pimperle KindOne Phase quuxman mitz- amacgregor xiphias Spleeze silverf0x blake_r ubuntulog_ DJones necrogami tendo
[17:43] <captainchris> woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
[17:43] <UltimateNate> o.o
[17:43]  * sireebob gives in.
[17:43] <JZTech101> *sigh*
[17:43] <UltimateNate> We need idoru in here
[17:43] <VaticanCameos> what the actual fug
[17:43] <Xethron> What a bot!
[17:43] <JC_SoCal> well that got my attention
[17:43] <Yofun> ....
[17:43] <pl1x> wow what?
[17:43] <Gycklarn> I'm popular!
[17:44] <McLive> :D
[17:44] <Xethron> JC_SoCal: Indeed :P
[17:44] <_KaszpiR_> yawn
[17:44] <iDevelop> ugh
[17:44] <_KaszpiR_> welcome to freenode
[17:44] <drpsih> Доброй ночи, у меня такая проблема поставил ubuntu 14.04 на ноутбук lenovo g580 и у меня виснет комп, когда я запускаю терминал ctrl+alt+fn и выхожу из него то система опять начинает работать что за дела?
[17:44] <edong23> somebody loves me!
[17:44] <captainchris> Gycklarn: yeah you too
[17:44] <UltimateNate> What happened to unopaste
[17:44] <Xethron> I never get mentioned here
[17:44] <jnoob22> Sick em Flannel
[17:44] <imjustmatthew> who writes this kind of junk?
[17:44] <meek_geek> drpsih, hi
[17:44] <bocaneri> Bots and scripts like that are depressingly easy to write.
[17:44] <Xethron> Someone must like me :P
[17:44] <almostworking> enouhg for me,   EJECT button
[17:44] <captainchris> edong23: i love you bitch
[17:44] <Flannel> Guys, just calm down.
[17:44] <UltimateNate> What happened to unopaste
[17:44] <syst3mw0rm_> what was that/
[17:44] <syst3mw0rm_> ?
[17:44] <edong23> lol
[17:44] <captainchris> X)
[17:44] <Xethron> Well, The channel is active again haha
[17:44] <_KaszpiR_> ;)
[17:44] <McLive> now we are all awake
[17:44] <Numline1> weee, party !
[17:44] <Ekushey> Flannel: why a bot isn't here?
[17:44] <Xethron> So, hows the weekend everyone?
[17:44] <Xethron> :P
[17:44] <Beldar> stop commenting folks
[17:44] <imjustmatthew> McLive: yeah
[17:45] <_KaszpiR_> we have been summoned
[17:45] <jnoob22> probably a mac or windows zealot.
[17:45] <Numline1> Weekend's fine, thanks for asking
[17:45] <captainchris> edong23: i would like to imùprove my english with you
[17:45] <McLive> weekend was too short Xethron :D
[17:45] <Flannel> Ekushey: Not sure, probably all the netsplits yesterday.  It's over now though.
[17:45] <captainchris> McLive: yeah sunny week
[17:45] <drpsih> че русских нет?
[17:45] <Xethron> McLive: totally agree! Barely started with my work that has to be done for Monday :/
[17:45] <Yofun> KvIRC you can do. /msg #channel $Chan.nicks
[17:45] <rypervenche> !ru
[17:45] <Yofun> For the same thing
[17:45] <Beldar> !ru | drpsih
[17:45] <captainchris> McLive: it's good for my skin
[17:45] <edong23> captainchris: im not a good choice
[17:46] <captainchris> why ?
[17:46] <xGLaDER> Gycklarn: Whe're you from mate?
[17:46] <McLive> :D
[17:46] <captainchris> you speak french
[17:46] <Gycklarn> xGLaDER, Sweden
[17:46] <Ekushey> !bd
[17:46] <edong23> no, im an asshole
[17:46] <Beldar> !ot > xGLaDER
[17:46] <captainchris> i learn you to speak french and you speak me english
[17:46] <xGLaDER> Gycklarn: That's what I thought.
[17:46] <Flannel> edong23: Please mind your language.
[17:46] <edong23> sorry
[17:46] <edong23> jerk?
[17:46] <edong23> im a jerk
[17:46] <Ekushey> :o
[17:46] <xGLaDER> ubottu: Soz.
[17:46] <Xethron> hahaha
[17:47]  * Yofun sees a lot of off topic
[17:47] <Xethron> edong23: Try using "Very bad and unplesent person" :P
[17:47] <edong23> i always considered that word to be pretty mild, but fair enough
[17:47] <Xethron> edong23: thats very... Language Nutral
[17:47] <edong23> that doesnt... describe me enough
[17:47] <Yofun> #ubuntu-off-topic
[17:47] <phunyguy> can we move the offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[17:47] <Xethron> :(
[17:48] <edong23> well, sure.. but... there isnt exactly an ontopic discussion
[17:48] <edong23> lol
[17:48] <Hazzard> Lol, someone said my name?
[17:48] <Hazzard> cool
[17:48]  * Xethron was waiting for someone to mention the "Off topic ness"
[17:50] <edong23> wow, this topic is rivetting.
[17:50] <zombu2> wth is with all the pings
[17:51] <phunyguy> zombu2: there are 1614 users here.  That happens.
[17:51] <zombu2> well you gotta say hi to all of em at the same time
[17:51] <zombu2> heh
[17:51] <DeadxBeat> Hey all. So i changed my hostname in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts and now im unable to access my apache server both by domain and by ip
[17:52] <mischief> hello world
[17:52] <DeadxBeat> after reboot
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> DeadxBeat  there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:53] <nuget102> on ubuntu 12.04 how can I install libSDL2? I know I need to add a source but I can't seem to find where that source is?
[17:54] <Beldar> nuget102, If not in the ubuntu repos it is technically not supported here. Give a outline why you need it to start with.
[17:54] <nuget102> So I can run a game.
[17:54] <nuget102> It's supported in 13+ from my understanding, but i'm currently using 12.04.
[17:55] <Beldar> nuget102, YOU might just upgrade to 14.04.
[17:55] <Beldar> if it is there nuget102 and use nicks here.
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> !find libsdl precise
[17:58] <codephobic> is .bashrc removed from Ubuntu 14.04? I can't seem to find .bashrc, .bash_aliases or even .bash_profile in my home directory.
[18:00] <enfopBype> 1 enfopBype VunKruz DJ_Unibob gargola_ dock9 Kryptron moritzschaefer meccooll1 ColdKeyboard DeadxBeat maximski jerome_test Jafura jonathanmarvens |PuNKCaT| wiiguy jibran drpsih JacksonIsaac kracker[BDC] NEXUS-6 dee-vee potofcoffee captainchris Klemppu demonspork PinoCao howefield Shardvexz kriskropd assburger Daz646 Ruiseart dannixon havardge CrowX- coolsa jsamuel anDixx seb__ Guegs DanishMan michaelgamble MonkeyDust geheheh enedil1 SittingShiva leb a
[18:00] <enfopBype> 38 skinkitten kermyt jeffw_ wcfields Corey84 Willow [mda] dundel panard_ nezZario sayan AndyBotwin just4info_ james0610 robb83 zyxelthrone diddledan titch515 dan__ excray Xethron audictive mikecmpbll cobracommand _polto_ payne Guido1 shorty grubles sina0 Jeruvy commodor_64 St_Marx dweez GothPaw mluser-laptop molqr eam Beldar jablo Tuna-Fish Igramul meek_geek utack benrodrigue Huntyz cemotyz09 pitoow zoktar marrusl rotham lemao eeee sarvsav verfimusic0
[18:00] <enfopBype> 12 sigmabeta gru_ linuxuz3r unshadow desti Hazzard sergios wadie causative VaticanCameos oscailt ogra_` chey Talryn darkroad timmmaaaayyy codephobic mojtaba Chris7mas testkram BettySlocombe Ari-Yang balboah adellam jak2000 spence Mike__ Modeuse satyamash hotdogwater [Relic] mpx sw wjtaylor BrandonS Shatterdome FlyOnTheWall X2 kaitanya Shrooms tummy dina Haswell jeffisabelle k1l DrSect0r Guest51889 dougl Alpha4 liquidee Nexuus williamtdr DongDiddler ge
[18:00] <enfopBype> 83 zzzgeoffb swex kvess Parufito g0st3 Gnurdux iDevelop CookieM Nach0z overlayer tlyu mdh petris Sway|Away oldwzd CEnnis91 Ubiquitous_X Ekushey hivearts_ mindflayer Stimrol imjustmatthew ariscop_ joe75 hubutm20 Flonka jato tombtc BjornW rebelCoder thebwt vak dream_code_ Nothing_Much tcpman_ iko1 cashnguns evanvarvell trendynick Ethix karakedi Sietsem Bauer pl1x ircuser-1 Afrix adminkomplex Jillybean kel39 esteeven rethus Maratich piokie tsunamie riex 
[18:00] <enfopBype> 50 Tylexon alexa jerrytgarcia Keanu73 octanium8 Kitar|st n-st godgodgodgo Sagitt IdleOne jottr vgezer brontosaurusrex CodeGosu nerdys0uth ToAruShiroiNeko devunt Aki-Thinkpad djural biella__ parduse DURgod dfgas zamba xGLaDER anon4953 Tabmow DividedByZero quackgyver_ sbujnak subz3r0 anon3847 dings_ Defaultti DarkSim happyface husker MistaMike maedox_ FrankZZ Jake0720 RyanKnack skasturi|away ryanhellyer Ol3f3l180rn AntiSpamMeta edenist Angelous Transfus
[18:00] <Huntyz> fuck off
[18:00] <Keanu73> Oh god
[18:00] <Willow> wut
[18:01] <DJ_Unibob> Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over...
[18:01] <jonathanmarvens> Are you fucking kidding me?
[18:01] <undevaavady> 23 SittingShiva leb ardan_ skinkitten kermyt jeffw_ wcfields Corey84 Willow [mda] dundel panard_ nezZario sayan AndyBotwin just4info_ james0610 robb83 zyxelthrone diddledan titch515 dan__ excray Xethron audictive mikecmpbll cobracommand _polto_ payne Guido1 shorty grubles sina0 Jeruvy commodor_64 St_Marx dweez GothPaw mluser-laptop eam Beldar jablo Tuna-Fish Igramul meek_geek utack benrodrigue Huntyz cemotyz09 pitoow zoktar marrusl rotham lemao eeee s
[18:01] <undevaavady> 39 verfimusic03 sigmabeta gru_ linuxuz3r unshadow desti Hazzard sergios wadie causative VaticanCameos oscailt ogra_` chey Talryn darkroad timmmaaaayyy codephobic mojtaba Chris7mas testkram BettySlocombe Ari-Yang balboah adellam jak2000 spence Modeuse satyamash hotdogwater [Relic] mpx sw wjtaylor BrandonS Shatterdome FlyOnTheWall X2 kaitanya Shrooms tummy dina Haswell jeffisabelle k1l DrSect0r Guest51889 dougl Alpha4 liquidee Nexuus williamtdr DongDidd
[18:01] <undevaavady> 66 geoffb zzzgeoffb swex kvess Parufito g0st3 Gnurdux iDevelop CookieM Nach0z overlayer tlyu mdh petris Sway|Away oldwzd CEnnis91 Ubiquitous_X Ekushey hivearts_ mindflayer Stimrol imjustmatthew ariscop_ joe75 hubutm20 Flonka jato tombtc BjornW rebelCoder thebwt vak dream_code_ Nothing_Much tcpman_ iko1 cashnguns evanvarvell trendynick Ethix karakedi Sietsem Bauer pl1x ircuser-1 Afrix adminkomplex Jillybean kel39 esteeven rethus Maratich piokie tsunami
[18:01] <undevaavady> 32 DEADB33F Tylexon alexa jerrytgarcia Keanu73 octanium8 Kitar|st n-st godgodgodgo Sagitt IdleOne jottr vgezer CodeGosu nerdys0uth ToAruShiroiNeko devunt Aki-Thinkpad djural biella__ parduse DURgod dfgas zamba xGLaDER anon4953 Tabmow quackgyver_ sbujnak subz3r0 anon3847 dings_ Defaultti DarkSim happyface husker MistaMike maedox_ FrankZZ Jake0720 RyanKnack skasturi|away ryanhellyer Ol3f3l180rn AntiSpamMeta edenist Angelous Transfusion ivan`` djeimsyxui
[18:01] <undevaavady> 13 funch_ surfdue Klumben cereal Vbitz tharkun HeN IceMonkey G4MBY NBhosting commodor B0r3dw15dom Ownix STiK_M three18ti fraggle_ ColmeneroM EugeneBandit mehdi _andyj_ zz_LoRdToLsToI yena twisted`_ Kenzi` nottrobin_ wycats KeelOfSteel LordDeath tkataja____ ballPointPenguin sultanselephant FourDollars_ Robbilie capri Boreeas JordanJ2 justin_jnf resolutions khaitanya TriJetScud euphoria derFlo Lartza Guest51755 McLive whitenite jinie IceCream markthomas
[18:01] <undevaavady> 87 NickG365 erikj mac_nibblet i_ron CraHan makije frecel thirsteh_ pnielsen_ SleePy BlackCobra1973 tgm4883__ wizonesolutions jaywink k3nt nasso_ gartral darkbasic_ Trozz_ Cybert1nus natewalck_ echoe anushbmx kg-irc aaa801__ guntbert_ _ruben_ vcoinminer____ ws2k3 Pitel cristian_c ivan2 bizarro_1 pchero gazzerh Bluerr elky peterrus Whiskey wizzywoZzy Michae|Long ftw_ FuZZ__ wafflejock__ wolrah_ Messenger_bird bouncer- moparsthbest preson1c Energy_ motto
[18:01] <undevaavady> 66 chalcedny spydon Khisanth Togusa sxar sharky pystar89 Emmanuel_Chanel LucaTM floown sergey_ txomon|home InspectorCluseau hamiltont_off badon l9 telex sveta mbalmer Zerant Karisik MrAlexandro ctag BLOWNCO zulgaban Fudge keplr_prime Schnabeltierchen edulix phunyguy Cyph3r moondoggy_ DLange blueingress TomyLobo ideopathic snufft CarlFK LapJup3 Hwkiller moza Agent_Smith_BR dcmorton sepero Guest5304 yacks Hxxx dash_ Asiajey BrixSat madLyfe jellow Viveka
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> the kid's nanny has her day off
[18:01] <happyface> Shut the fuck up
[18:01] <McLive> GOD
[18:01] <Boreeas> oh ffs
[18:01] <iDevelop> I'm going to join this channel when these idiots grow up.
[18:01] <Keanu73> Shut up spammers!
[18:01] <Willow> WHAT THE HELL LOL
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 64 geastaptarl game_speller sukapx Din_Weasel VunKruz DJ_Unibob gargola_ dock9 Kryptron moritzschaefer meccooll1 ColdKeyboard DeadxBeat maximski jerome_test Jafura jonathanmarvens |PuNKCaT| wiiguy jibran drpsih JacksonIsaac kracker[BDC] NEXUS-6 dee-vee potofcoffee captainchris Klemppu demonspork PinoCao howefield Shardvexz kriskropd assburger Daz646 Ruiseart dannixon havardge CrowX- coolsa jsamuel anDixx seb__ DanishMan michaelgamble MonkeyDust geheheh
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 27 enedil1 SittingShiva leb ardan_ skinkitten kermyt jeffw_ wcfields Corey84 Willow [mda] dundel panard_ nezZario sayan AndyBotwin just4info_ james0610 robb83 zyxelthrone diddledan titch515 dan__ excray Xethron audictive mikecmpbll cobracommand _polto_ payne Guido1 shorty grubles sina0 Jeruvy commodor_64 St_Marx dweez GothPaw mluser-laptop eam Beldar jablo Tuna-Fish Igramul meek_geek benrodrigue Huntyz cemotyz09 pitoow zoktar rotham lemao eeee sarvsav
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 53 verfimusic03 sigmabeta gru_ linuxuz3r unshadow desti Hazzard sergios wadie causative VaticanCameos oscailt ogra_` chey Talryn darkroad timmmaaaayyy codephobic mojtaba Chris7mas testkram BettySlocombe Ari-Yang balboah adellam jak2000 spence Modeuse satyamash hotdogwater [Relic] mpx sw wjtaylor BrandonS Shatterdome FlyOnTheWall X2 kaitanya Shrooms tummy dina Haswell jeffisabelle k1l DrSect0r Guest51889 dougl Alpha4 liquidee Nexuus williamtdr DongDiddl
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 31 geoffb zzzgeoffb swex kvess Parufito g0st3 Gnurdux iDevelop CookieM Nach0z overlayer tlyu mdh petris Sway|Away oldwzd CEnnis91 Ubiquitous_X Ekushey hivearts_ mindflayer Stimrol imjustmatthew ariscop_ joe75 hubutm20 Flonka jato tombtc BjornW rebelCoder thebwt vak dream_code_ Nothing_Much tcpman_ iko1 cashnguns evanvarvell trendynick Ethix karakedi Sietsem Bauer pl1x ircuser-1 Afrix adminkomplex Jillybean kel39 esteeven rethus Maratich piokie tsunamie
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 16 DEADB33F Tylexon alexa jerrytgarcia Keanu73 octanium8 Kitar|st n-st godgodgodgo Sagitt IdleOne jottr vgezer CodeGosu nerdys0uth ToAruShiroiNeko devunt Aki-Thinkpad djural biella__ parduse DURgod dfgas zamba xGLaDER anon4953 Tabmow quackgyver_ sbujnak subz3r0 anon3847 dings_ Defaultti DarkSim happyface husker MistaMike maedox_ FrankZZ Jake0720 RyanKnack skasturi|away ryanhellyer Ol3f3l180rn AntiSpamMeta edenist Angelous Transfusion ivan`` djeimsyxuis
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 87 funch_ surfdue Klumben cereal Vbitz tharkun HeN IceMonkey G4MBY NBhosting commodor B0r3dw15dom Ownix STiK_M three18ti fraggle_ ColmeneroM EugeneBandit mehdi _andyj_ zz_LoRdToLsToI yena twisted`_ Kenzi` nottrobin_ wycats KeelOfSteel LordDeath tkataja____ ballPointPenguin sultanselephant FourDollars_ Robbilie capri Boreeas JordanJ2 justin_jnf resolutions khaitanya TriJetScud euphoria derFlo Lartza Guest51755 McLive whitenite jinie IceCream markthomas
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 55 NickG365 erikj mac_nibblet i_ron CraHan makije frecel thirsteh_ pnielsen_ SleePy BlackCobra1973 tgm4883__ wizonesolutions jaywink k3nt nasso_ gartral darkbasic_ Trozz_ Cybert1nus natewalck_ echoe anushbmx kg-irc aaa801__ guntbert_ _ruben_ vcoinminer____ ws2k3 Pitel cristian_c ivan2 bizarro_1 pchero gazzerh Bluerr elky peterrus Whiskey wizzywoZzy Michae|Long ftw_ FuZZ__ wafflejock__ wolrah_ Messenger_bird bouncer- moparsthbest preson1c Energy_ motto
[18:01] <Flannel> Guys, seriously, watch the language.
[18:01] <Huntyz> hes found a new script?
[18:01] <n-st> how about banning their entire /24? :)
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 48 chalcedny spydon Khisanth Togusa sxar sharky pystar89 Emmanuel_Chanel LucaTM floown sergey_ txomon|home InspectorCluseau hamiltont_off badon l9 telex sveta mbalmer Zerant Karisik MrAlexandro ctag BLOWNCO zulgaban Fudge keplr_prime Schnabeltierchen edulix phunyguy Cyph3r moondoggy_ DLange blueingress TomyLobo ideopathic snufft CarlFK LapJup3 Hwkiller moza Agent_Smith_BR dcmorton sepero Guest5304 yacks Hxxx dash_ Asiajey BrixSat madLyfe jellow Vivekan
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 3 jrolland-ubuntu sunkist Artemis3 pac1 ON1 steffengy1 Fanthomas90 schnitzl--- msx histo Geo mgorbach xragnar mixomathoze OerHeks e11bits sarir george2 seere_ Rurd2di Sprocks hipitihop cobakobodob Bobby_Tables JoshG The_Pugilist hdm yan Daemoen jiffe98 sddhrthrt1 dadis lsv pet2001 tarvid D-Boy Guest95457 Numline1 usr13 Arbition aschro p0wn3d YeahRight_ rypervenche expr xenoa MrChrisDruif ph8 treaki__ githogori kantlivelong calvados huff3r mindstorm zon
[18:01] <Keanu73> Go to hell!
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 95 kerosene weez- vivid vonsyd0w jester_ alienspy Fatemeh yalue Screwba kso D4v33 Vooloo calp lilstevie dv_ DzAirmaX dually icebourg NanoArrow SharkMa-san_ paddymahoney spjt underdog` sipior peterrooney _quadHelix Fox^ lester_ billy_ran_away genial mrlesmithjr Artpicre brainproxy edwardly Church shimano heavystorm Turaiel[Offline] Phixit nftable Pwnna diytto duckydan Icedream gardar J3SS NaiveFrost_ nodedfree nomad_fr perosredo Kins MrPPS_ sosby- emid_
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 12 tinoco Tajha_ SirFunk fginther Azelphur arges chiluk` CatKiller_ Like2HlpU-Laptop morenoh153 winb_ alucard__ svm_invi1tvs Enf0 jj995__ Sedated Argafal SuperLag_ jerrcs_ yigal_ Garheade slippery1ick Gycklarn enchilado chillpil2_ awktion_ mjuszcza1 SorenHolm_ Sudopack_ Qasker moonk2 Zack_Dee_ petersaints zartoosh anexit_ Br|aN cwarner_ sigint881 Hexxeh2 moarrr ltxda1 away morphis LapsangS krisd_ Gorith pinnerup regno hellopat_ badass dumby_PC TIBS02 M
[18:01] <geastaptarl> 39 kyle__ Ziber Fuchs hotsatellite pate_ ProfessorKaos64 dp_wiz Elanor Ool GRMrGecko SierraAR Spec hggdh C4Cypher klew TDJACR Olivier| EncryptedCurse Relsak ubottu Arceye esde phroa ConnorM ignacio luckybunny Scyte Ridley tsimpson Dwarf WinstonSmith Shuro firewyre Xcytre Cyber_Akuma mak1 JC_SoCal Mike9863 cheesecakes Cueball RoryHughes abc_harold Bladerunner plasticboy geirha folivora_ lix_ Machetez raj g3kk3r_ tumppu keir Timon_Crazy Imdsm AyForest Wu
[18:01] <demonspork> why dod people even do that
[18:01] <happyface> Jesus!
[18:01] <DeadxBeat> No one is alive in #ubuntu-server
[18:01] <demonspork> is there any point
[18:01] <phunyguy> misfired
[18:01] <Xethron> Its Back! :D
[18:01] <happyface> It's just annoying kids
[18:01] <kantlivelong> wow what an asshole
[18:01] <Numline1> kill it before it lays eggs
[18:01] <n-st> actually, how about banning their /8?
[18:01] <phunyguy> Flannel: you are quick
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> demonspork  it's called "coming of age"
[18:02] <Willow> KILL IT WITH FIRE
[18:02] <Willow> ROFL
[18:02] <Daz646> nice bit of flooding
[18:02] <DJ_Unibob> heh heh heh fire, fire, fire!
[18:02] <Flannel> n-st: Theyve had a couple of completely different IPs
[18:02] <Xethron> DeadxBeat: Are you using Ubuntu Server, or Ubuntu Desktop with Apache on?
[18:02] <demonspork> MonkeyDust: I spammed ascii art of penises when I was in that stage. Spamming people's names isn't even funny
[18:02] <n-st> Flannel: yup, but the two i've seen are in 196.0.0.0/8 — so… >:)
[18:02] <DeadxBeat> Xethron: server
[18:02] <n-st> Flannel: sorry, i should learn to read
[18:03] <Numline1> ban *.*.*.* - problem resolved
[18:03] <n-st> different subnets after all
[18:03] <Flannel> n-st: No worries.
[18:03] <Xethron> DeadxBeat: please pastebin your edits
[18:03] <Xethron> DeadxBeat: maybe I can figure something out
[18:03] <assburger> Numline1: ipv6 kthx
[18:03] <walid> 87 sarvsav verfimusic03 sigmabeta gru_ linuxuz3r unshadow desti Hazzard sergios wadie causative VaticanCameos oscailt ogra_` chey Talryn darkroad timmmaaaayyy codephobic mojtaba Chris7mas testkram BettySlocombe Ari-Yang balboah adellam jak2000 spence Modeuse satyamash hotdogwater [Relic] mpx sw wjtaylor BrandonS Shatterdome FlyOnTheWall X2 kaitanya Shrooms tummy dina Haswell jeffisabelle k1l DrSect0r Guest51889 dougl Alpha4 liquidee Nexuus williamtdr DongDi
[18:03] <walid> 86 geoffb zzzgeoffb swex kvess Parufito g0st3 Gnurdux CookieM Nach0z overlayer tlyu mdh petris Sway|Away oldwzd CEnnis91 Ubiquitous_X Ekushey hivearts_ mindflayer Stimrol imjustmatthew ariscop_ joe75 hubutm20 Flonka jato tombtc BjornW rebelCoder thebwt vak dream_code_ Nothing_Much tcpman_ iko1 cashnguns evanvarvell trendynick Ethix karakedi Sietsem Bauer pl1x ircuser-1 Afrix adminkomplex Jillybean kel39 esteeven rethus Maratich piokie tsunamie riex DEADB33F
[18:03] <walid> 28 Tylexon alexa jerrytgarcia Keanu73 octanium8 Kitar|st n-st godgodgodgo Sagitt IdleOne jottr CodeGosu nerdys0uth ToAruShiroiNeko devunt Aki-Thinkpad djural biella__ parduse DURgod dfgas zamba xGLaDER anon4953 Tabmow quackgyver_ sbujnak subz3r0 anon3847 dings_ Defaultti DarkSim happyface husker MistaMike maedox_ FrankZZ Jake0720 RyanKnack skasturi|away ryanhellyer Ol3f3l180rn AntiSpamMeta edenist Angelous Transfusion ivan`` djeimsyxuis funch_ surfdue Klumb
[18:03] <walid> 91 cereal Vbitz tharkun HeN IceMonkey G4MBY NBhosting commodor B0r3dw15dom Ownix STiK_M three18ti fraggle_ ColmeneroM EugeneBandit mehdi _andyj_ zz_LoRdToLsToI yena twisted`_ Kenzi` nottrobin_ wycats KeelOfSteel LordDeath tkataja____ ballPointPenguin sultanselephant FourDollars_ Robbilie capri Boreeas JordanJ2 justin_jnf resolutions khaitanya TriJetScud euphoria derFlo Lartza Guest51755 McLive whitenite jinie IceCream NickG365 erikj mac_nibblet i_ron CraHan
[18:03] <walid> 12 makije frecel thirsteh_ pnielsen_ SleePy BlackCobra1973 tgm4883__ wizonesolutions jaywink k3nt nasso_ gartral darkbasic_ Trozz_ Cybert1nus natewalck_ echoe anushbmx kg-irc aaa801__ guntbert_ _ruben_ vcoinminer____ ws2k3 cristian_c ivan2 bizarro_1 pchero gazzerh Bluerr elky peterrus Whiskey wizzywoZzy Michae|Long ftw_ FuZZ__ wafflejock__ wolrah_ Messenger_bird bouncer- moparsthbest preson1c Energy_ motto chalcedny spydon Khisanth Togusa sxar sharky pystar
[18:03] <walid> 4 Emmanuel_Chanel LucaTM floown sergey_ txomon|home InspectorCluseau hamiltont_off badon l9 telex sveta mbalmer Zerant Karisik MrAlexandro ctag BLOWNCO zulgaban Fudge keplr_prime Schnabeltierchen edulix phunyguy Cyph3r moondoggy_ DLange blueingress TomyLobo ideopathic snufft CarlFK LapJup3 Hwkiller moza Agent_Smith_BR dcmorton sepero Guest5304 yacks Hxxx dash_ Asiajey BrixSat madLyfe jellow Vivekananda jrolland-ubuntu sunkist Artemis3 pac1 ON1 steffengy1
[18:03] <walid> 73 Fanthomas90 schnitzl--- msx histo Geo mgorbach xragnar mixomathoze OerHeks e11bits sarir george2 seere_ Rurd2di Sprocks hipitihop cobakobodob Bobby_Tables JoshG The_Pugilist hdm yan Daemoen jiffe98 sddhrthrt1 dadis lsv pet2001 tarvid D-Boy Guest95457 Numline1 usr13 Arbition aschro p0wn3d YeahRight_ rypervenche expr xenoa MrChrisDruif ph8 treaki__ githogori kantlivelong calvados huff3r mindstorm zonum kerosene weez- vivid vonsyd0w jester_ alienspy Fatemeh
[18:03] <McLive> -.-
[18:03] <phunyguy> Please don't comment on the bots/spam, especially with obscenities.
[18:03] <DJ_Unibob> Hopefully that is done for now.  do people REALLY have nothing better to do?
[18:03] <Boreeas> Can we just set the channel to +m for now
[18:03] <Xethron> DeadxBeat: lets chat in #ubuntu-server rather
[18:04] <Numline1> Umm, doesn't freenode have some sort of channel mod for messages/second ?
[18:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont understand the point of these people
[18:04] <phunyguy> Please don't comment on the bots/spam, especially with obscenities.
[18:04] <lpniltmoibist> NIGGERS 67 lpniltmoibist trism mramm bprompt nuget102 Guegs Din_Weasel Hecter cerry Zebroid labsin xBytez whiskers75 game_speller sukapx VunKruz DJ_Unibob gargola_ dock9 Kryptron moritzschaefer meccooll1 ColdKeyboard DeadxBeat maximski jerome_test Jafura jonathanmarvens |PuNKCaT| jibran drpsih JacksonIsaac kracker[BDC] NEXUS-6 dee-vee potofcoffee captainchris Klemppu demonspork PinoCao howefield Shardvexz kriskropd assburger Daz646 Ruiseart dannix
[18:04] <lpniltmoibist> NIGGERS 71 CrowX- coolsa anDixx seb__ DanishMan michaelgamble MonkeyDust geheheh enedil1 SittingShiva leb ardan_ skinkitten kermyt jeffw_ wcfields Corey84 Willow [mda] dundel panard_ nezZario sayan AndyBotwin just4info_ robb83 zyxelthrone diddledan titch515 dan__ excray Xethron audictive mikecmpbll cobracommand _polto_ payne Guido1 shorty grubles sina0 Jeruvy commodor_64 St_Marx dweez GothPaw mluser-laptop eam Beldar jablo Tuna-Fish Igramul meek_g
[18:04] <lpniltmoibist> NIGGERS 28 cemotyz09 pitoow zoktar lemao eeee sarvsav verfimusic03 sigmabeta gru_ linuxuz3r unshadow desti Hazzard sergios wadie causative VaticanCameos oscailt ogra_` chey Talryn darkroad timmmaaaayyy codephobic mojtaba Chris7mas testkram BettySlocombe Ari-Yang balboah adellam jak2000 spence Modeuse satyamash hotdogwater [Relic] mpx sw wjtaylor Shatterdome FlyOnTheWall X2 kaitanya Shrooms tummy dina Haswell jeffisabelle k1l DrSect0r Guest51889 do
[18:04] <lpniltmoibist> NIGGERS 13 liquidee Nexuus williamtdr DongDiddler geoffb zzzgeoffb swex kvess Parufito g0st3 Gnurdux CookieM Nach0z overlayer tlyu mdh petris Sway|Away oldwzd CEnnis91 Ubiquitous_X Ekushey hivearts_ mindflayer Stimrol imjustmatthew ariscop_ joe75 hubutm20 Flonka jato tombtc BjornW rebelCoder thebwt vak dream_code_ Nothing_Much tcpman_ iko1 cashnguns evanvarvell trendynick Ethix karakedi Sietsem Bauer pl1x ircuser-1 Afrix adminkomplex Jillybean kel
[18:04] <lpniltmoibist> NIGGERS 31 rethus Maratich piokie tsunamie Orphis Namikaze g105b nanashiRei ItTakesTwo Riddell james_woods akke Disson Superdawg Germanaz0|0FF CyberJacob irv ips|malc he1kki mostly sarkofag apw Hardolaf runnyspot TamCore dean|away mlocher felipe_ KrZPi TmvC tillbaks bakteria pcdummy zenix` shwoop AGoodName schmidtm boubbin Devels rOss^64 mkander arcsky robertknight iiska krphop ToBeFree peps sonne Tm_T sayakb jweez marlinc JStoker Piper-Off SupaYo
[18:04] <lpniltmoibist> NIGGERS 83 feitingen LittleFool Lakii kamal_ Ornacia VoidWhisperer huttan Xjs|moonshine Buzzer BLZbubba lahwran Jordan_U wiak nesthib Taylor joar ryan-c ztane ashkan helgikrs1 megabit|away KiraN nhayashi TREllis darken Zethrok andih Muzer fn00dle Zune SenorSenpai mpoole mavensk hax404 funkyHat Daviey adan0s Pricey d3vlin jffew lewq Kartagis Devrim clopez svy mx0r Mellett68 huatou PennStater Neptu der0b Pumpkin- daswort Sasha grimeton magnet_ Eugen
[18:04] <lpniltmoibist> NIGGERS 27 spinx Noiro atrius jonyfive Furai K1rk _jareth_ vlad_starkov lhavelund edk Insecta cyphase doki_pen mbottoms_ step21_ freanux nevyn tavasti andatche ulkesh g00fy Guddu Nukien jseutter claude2 Logan_ MadsRC Nothing4You Tristam heinrich5991 nicholas-qg robher mmoebius akiml VaNNi tdankert nickoe Nickeeh tibr sebjan gamerx jdavis dwatkins Armadillos tomodachi med_ defect mguy holstein mazertm samuelkadolph Hyperbyte MultiColourPixel viddy 
[18:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what is the point of highlighting everyone
[18:04] <McLive> ...
[18:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it isnt even mild irritation.
[18:04] <cashnguns> flood much?
[18:04] <nuget102> Can someone actually help me fix this: libSDL2_mixer-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:04] <williamtdr> make the pinging stop D:
[18:04] <ToAruShiroiNeko> boom, now it wont highlight if multiple people on channel is highlighted
[18:05] <Xethron> ToAruShiroiNeko: Its a vandilist trying out his shitty programming skills...
[18:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> that had taken, what 30 seconds?
[18:05] <Modeuse> yes Numline1 they have one thats why he/she/it is kicked form the server
[18:05] <gennoms> NIGGERS 24 gennoms enmand sukapx martinklepsch trism mramm bprompt nuget102 Guegs Din_Weasel Hecter cerry Zebroid labsin xBytez whiskers75 game_speller VunKruz DJ_Unibob gargola_ dock9 Kryptron moritzschaefer meccooll1 ColdKeyboard DeadxBeat maximski jerome_test Jafura jonathanmarvens |PuNKCaT| jibran drpsih JacksonIsaac kracker[BDC] NEXUS-6 dee-vee potofcoffee captainchris Klemppu demonspork PinoCao howefield Shardvexz kriskropd assburger Daz646 Ruiseart 
[18:05] <gennoms> NIGGERS 82 havardge CrowX- coolsa anDixx seb__ DanishMan michaelgamble MonkeyDust geheheh enedil1 SittingShiva leb ardan_ skinkitten kermyt jeffw_ Corey84 Willow [mda] dundel panard_ nezZario sayan AndyBotwin just4info_ robb83 zyxelthrone diddledan titch515 dan__ excray Xethron audictive mikecmpbll cobracommand _polto_ payne Guido1 shorty grubles sina0 Jeruvy commodor_64 St_Marx dweez GothPaw mluser-laptop eam Beldar jablo Tuna-Fish Igramul meek_geek Hunty
[18:05] <gennoms> NIGGERS 63 pitoow zoktar lemao eeee sarvsav verfimusic03 sigmabeta gru_ linuxuz3r unshadow desti Hazzard sergios wadie causative VaticanCameos oscailt ogra_` chey Talryn darkroad timmmaaaayyy codephobic mojtaba Chris7mas testkram BettySlocombe Ari-Yang balboah adellam jak2000 spence Modeuse satyamash hotdogwater [Relic] mpx sw wjtaylor Shatterdome FlyOnTheWall X2 kaitanya Shrooms tummy dina Haswell jeffisabelle k1l DrSect0r Guest51889 dougl Alpha4 liquidee
[18:05] <gennoms> NIGGERS 92 williamtdr DongDiddler geoffb zzzgeoffb swex kvess Parufito g0st3 Gnurdux CookieM Nach0z overlayer tlyu mdh petris Sway|Away oldwzd CEnnis91 Ubiquitous_X Ekushey hivearts_ mindflayer Stimrol imjustmatthew ariscop_ joe75 hubutm20 Flonka jato tombtc BjornW rebelCoder thebwt vak dream_code_ Nothing_Much tcpman_ iko1 cashnguns evanvarvell trendynick Ethix karakedi Sietsem Bauer pl1x ircuser-1 Afrix adminkomplex Jillybean kel39 esteeven rethus Marati
[18:05] <gennoms> NIGGERS 39 tsunamie Orphis Namikaze g105b nanashiRei ItTakesTwo Riddell james_woods akke Disson Superdawg Germanaz0|0FF CyberJacob irv ips|malc he1kki mostly sarkofag apw Hardolaf runnyspot TamCore dean|away mlocher felipe_ KrZPi TmvC tillbaks bakteria pcdummy zenix` shwoop AGoodName schmidtm boubbin Devels rOss^64 mkander arcsky robertknight iiska krphop ToBeFree peps sonne Tm_T sayakb jweez marlinc JStoker Piper-Off SupaYoshi Jguy oal feitingen LittleFoo
[18:05] <gennoms> NIGGERS 77 kamal_ Ornacia VoidWhisperer huttan Xjs|moonshine Buzzer BLZbubba lahwran Jordan_U wiak nesthib Taylor joar ryan-c ztane ashkan helgikrs1 megabit|away KiraN nhayashi TREllis darken Zethrok andih Muzer fn00dle Zune SenorSenpai mpoole mavensk hax404 funkyHat Daviey adan0s Pricey d3vlin jffew lewq Kartagis clopez svy mx0r Mellett68 huatou PennStater Neptu der0b Pumpkin- daswort Sasha grimeton magnet_ EugeneBndt Guest2074 spinx Noiro atrius jonyfive
[18:05] <gennoms> NIGGERS 19 _jareth_ vlad_starkov lhavelund edk Insecta cyphase doki_pen mbottoms_ step21_ freanux nevyn tavasti andatche ulkesh g00fy Guddu Nukien jseutter claude2 Logan_ MadsRC Nothing4You Tristam heinrich5991 nicholas-qg robher mmoebius akiml VaNNi tdankert nickoe Nickeeh tibr sebjan gamerx jdavis dwatkins Armadillos tomodachi med_ defect mguy holstein mazertm samuelkadolph Hyperbyte MultiColourPixel viddy dduffey trijntje export kandinski tomaw mist Bla
[18:05] <nuget102> I know I need to install libSDL2_mixer but I have no idea how to get that as a source so I can downlooad it. I'm using 12.04
[18:05] <nickoe> nuget102: what makes the machine say that?
[18:05] <CookieM> freak of nature or calling for audition
[18:05] <DJ_Unibob> It can be mildly irritating when in a game and the highlight causes it to lose focus.
[18:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Xethron programming skills? I have coded more complicated stuff in access :p
[18:05] <SenorSenpai> fuck you for crashing ym client
[18:05] <nickoe> OP!
[18:05] <jjallenfit> NIGGERS 74 jjallenfit Lael enmand sukapx martinklepsch trism mramm bprompt nuget102 Guegs Din_Weasel Hecter cerry Zebroid labsin xBytez whiskers75 game_speller VunKruz DJ_Unibob gargola_ dock9 Kryptron moritzschaefer meccooll1 ColdKeyboard DeadxBeat maximski jerome_test Jafura jonathanmarvens |PuNKCaT| drpsih JacksonIsaac kracker[BDC] NEXUS-6 dee-vee potofcoffee captainchris Klemppu demonspork PinoCao howefield Shardvexz kriskropd assburger Daz646 Ruise
[18:05] <jjallenfit> NIGGERS 81 havardge CrowX- coolsa anDixx seb__ DanishMan michaelgamble MonkeyDust geheheh enedil1 SittingShiva leb ardan_ skinkitten kermyt jeffw_ Corey84 Willow [mda] dundel panard_ nezZario sayan AndyBotwin just4info_ robb83 zyxelthrone diddledan titch515 dan__ excray Xethron audictive mikecmpbll cobracommand _polto_ payne Guido1 shorty grubles sina0 Jeruvy commodor_64 St_Marx dweez GothPaw mluser-laptop eam Beldar jablo Tuna-Fish Igramul meek_geek Hu
[18:05] <jjallenfit> NIGGERS 78 cemotyz09 pitoow zoktar lemao eeee sarvsav verfimusic03 sigmabeta gru_ linuxuz3r unshadow desti Hazzard sergios wadie causative VaticanCameos oscailt ogra_` chey Talryn darkroad timmmaaaayyy mojtaba Chris7mas testkram BettySlocombe Ari-Yang balboah adellam jak2000 spence Modeuse satyamash hotdogwater [Relic] mpx sw wjtaylor Shatterdome FlyOnTheWall X2 kaitanya Shrooms tummy dina Haswell jeffisabelle k1l DrSect0r Guest51889 dougl Alpha4 liquid
[18:05] <jjallenfit> NIGGERS 66 williamtdr DongDiddler geoffb zzzgeoffb swex kvess Parufito g0st3 Gnurdux CookieM Nach0z overlayer tlyu mdh petris Sway|Away oldwzd CEnnis91 Ubiquitous_X Ekushey hivearts_ mindflayer Stimrol imjustmatthew ariscop_ joe75 hubutm20 Flonka jato tombtc BjornW rebelCoder thebwt vak dream_code_ Nothing_Much tcpman_ iko1 cashnguns evanvarvell trendynick Ethix karakedi Sietsem Bauer pl1x ircuser-1 Afrix adminkomplex Jillybean kel39 esteeven rethus Mar
[18:05] <jjallenfit> NIGGERS 90 tsunamie Orphis Namikaze g105b nanashiRei ItTakesTwo Riddell james_woods akke Disson Superdawg Germanaz0|0FF CyberJacob irv ips|malc he1kki mostly sarkofag apw Hardolaf runnyspot TamCore dean|away mlocher felipe_ KrZPi TmvC tillbaks bakteria pcdummy zenix` shwoop AGoodName schmidtm boubbin Devels rOss^64 mkander arcsky robertknight iiska krphop ToBeFree peps sonne Tm_T sayakb jweez marlinc JStoker Piper-Off SupaYoshi Jguy oal feitingen Little
[18:05] <jjallenfit> NIGGERS 22 kamal_ Ornacia VoidWhisperer huttan Xjs|moonshine Buzzer BLZbubba lahwran Jordan_U wiak nesthib Taylor joar ryan-c ztane ashkan helgikrs1 megabit|away KiraN nhayashi TREllis darken Zethrok andih Muzer fn00dle Zune SenorSenpai mpoole mavensk hax404 funkyHat Daviey adan0s Pricey d3vlin jffew lewq Kartagis clopez svy mx0r Mellett68 huatou PennStater Neptu der0b Pumpkin- daswort Sasha grimeton magnet_ EugeneBndt Guest2074 spinx Noiro atrius jonyf
[18:05] <jjallenfit> NIGGERS 67 K1rk _jareth_ vlad_starkov lhavelund edk Insecta cyphase doki_pen mbottoms_ step21_ freanux nevyn tavasti andatche ulkesh g00fy Guddu Nukien jseutter claude2 Logan_ MadsRC Nothing4You Tristam heinrich5991 nicholas-qg robher mmoebius akiml VaNNi tdankert nickoe Nickeeh tibr sebjan gamerx jdavis dwatkins Armadillos tomodachi med_ defect mguy holstein mazertm samuelkadolph Hyperbyte MultiColourPixel viddy dduffey trijntje export kandinski tomaw 
[18:05] <nuget102> nickoe i'm using ubuntu 12.04 so anytime I try to run anything that requires it. (in this case a game)
[18:05] <cashnguns> okay I'm leaving
[18:05] <phunyguy> STOP SWEARING please
[18:05] <Thor> SenorSenpai: no need to use profanities
[18:05] <Xethron> ToAruShiroiNeko: haha, thats why I said "shitty" :P
[18:05] <rebelCoder> what is all this spam ?
[18:05] <nickoe> Flannel: OP action!
[18:06] <desti> windows makes you dumb
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> !ops
[18:06] <Taylor> wot
[18:06] <SenorSenpai> sorry Thor, ehehehe
[18:06] <DJ_Unibob> Give some trusted people +v and set the channel to +m Most won't be able to talk for a while, but it will stop the flooding.
[18:06] <Numline1> whoop whoop - it's the sound of da police!
[18:06] <Hazzard> wat
[18:06] <ToBeFree> DJ_Unibob: +r sounds more convenient
[18:06] <trism> nuget102: is it another game dep or are you doing something else? (building from source, etc) we have libsdl-mixer1.2 which is the 1.2 version of sdl you were using yesterday and libsdl2-mixer-2.0-0 which is sdl 2
[18:06] <bprompt> rebelCoder:     just a mild channel flood for the time being
[18:06] <Lael> Arch is  the king of Linux Distros
[18:07] <nickoe> Lael: Who cares+
[18:07] <popey> Lael: please don't troll
[18:07] <rebelCoder> I LOVE IRC !
[18:07] <Xethron> bprompt: "Mild" you say? :P
[18:07] <nuget102> trism: when I was installing stuff one of them messed up my ubuntu, my task menu and stuff disappeared and nothing could fix it.
[18:07] <bprompt> Xethron:    I've seen much worse elsewhere :)
[18:07] <nuget102> trism: so I have to re-install it, I just can't recall the source.
[18:08] <nuget102> Once I have the source i'll be good, I just can't find it for the life of me.
[18:10] <|PuNKCaT|> Can anyone help me fix a soundcard issue Trusty Tahr
[18:11] <trism> nuget102: not sure what you are asking for by source, libSDL2_mixer-2.0.so.0 is in libsdl2-mixer-2.0-0, do you need the i386 version again? libsdl2-mixer-2.0-0:i386
[18:12] <nuget102> Mhm
[18:12] <Flannel> Alright folks, we've temporarily set the channel to registered people only, this should cut down on the spam.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration for help on registering.
[18:12] <nuget102> But remember, I needed to add a source to the software center because other it wouldn't list libSDL2-mixer
[18:13] <nuget102> I'm running ubuntu 12.04, which is before SDL2 became a default source.
[18:13] <trism> nuget102: oh right 12.04
[18:13] <nuget102> Sorry, I know it's a pain >.<
[18:16] <drpsih> ривет, слушай, я на ноут воткнул ubuntu 14.04 ноут фирма lenova g580 видеокарта geforce 610m я ставил дрова 331. но проблема вот в чем у меня начинает ноут виснуть, самое интересное я слышу что мне приходят сообщения в контакте, а я ничего с делать не могу, ни мышка ни клава
[18:16] <drpsih> не работает, только могу зайти в терминал ctrl+alt+f1 а потом выхожу и все опять начинает работать, но сам понимаешь временно...
[18:17] <dioioib> !ubuntu-ru
[18:20] <phunyguy> !ru | drpsih
[18:23] <dioioib> thats the command. woot phunyguy
[18:24] <phunyguy> mm?
[18:24] <phunyguy> oh
[18:24] <phunyguy> :)
[18:24] <Shardvexz> that guy who was spamming names
[18:24] <Shardvexz> he did it in #archlinux too
[18:24] <Shardvexz> he's hitting up all the major linux channels
[18:25] <bprompt> Shardvexz:    floods wise that's not unusual
[18:25] <Korkel> hi
[18:26] <bprompt> allo
[18:26] <|PuNKCaT|> hello? PLease, can anyone help me? I need to figure out how to get my system to see my sound card again after updating from 12.4 to Trusty Tahr
[18:26] <captainchris> bprompt: hi
[18:26] <captainchris> can you help me please
[18:26] <captainchris> i would like to improve my english
[18:27] <bprompt> hmm
[18:27] <captainchris> and you are a good person
[18:27] <captainchris> do you want to speak with me please
[18:27] <bprompt> captainchris:     not sure this is the channel for it
[18:27] <phunyguy> captainchris: this really isn't the channel
[18:27] <captainchris> not important
[18:28] <captainchris> help me please
[18:28] <phunyguy> help you what?
[18:28] <captainchris> and i make you love  XD
[18:28]  * bprompt smells something phony
[18:28] <sepero> phuny
[18:28] <bprompt> not surprisingly, that nick is likely linked to the guy with the flood script
[18:32] <profall> Help!
[18:32] <phunyguy> profall: would help to know what you need help with
[18:33] <Seveas> phunyguy: don't ask too much of them :)
[18:33]  * bprompt sniffs some more
[18:33] <phunyguy> mm.
[18:33] <phunyguy> hello Seveas :)
[18:33] <Seveas> ohai
[18:33] <Geo> i cloned a drive using rsync- I edited fstab to mount the correct UUID, updated fdisk to show it as bootable. However, when I boot the machine, it still mounts the original disk as / . What did I miss?
[18:33] <profall> So.... I use my friends wifi so I cant wire it up on the install
[18:33] <Geo> (removed the boot flag from the original disk as well)
[18:33] <Seveas> Geo: you'll need to update the initramfs
[18:34] <profall> And I have no idea how to install these wifi drivers
[18:34] <Geo> Seveas: do you know that command off the top of your head?
[18:34] <holstein> !wifi
[18:34] <holstein> !broadcom | profall
[18:34] <Seveas> because in there is the /etc/initramfs used to locate / - because / isn't mounted yet :)
[18:34] <Seveas> Geo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) should do the trick
[18:34] <holstein> profall: are the broadcom ones the one you are asking about? there are directions there for if you dont have access
[18:35] <holstein> profall: connecting to a wired network is the "easy way"..
[18:35] <profall> I have a d-link  dwa-171
[18:35] <holstein> profall: you will read the linnk above, and learn what chipset you have..
[18:35] <Geo> update-initramfs wont do the trick, Seveas?
[18:36] <profall> Also I am reinstalling right now
[18:36] <profall> Should I use lvm with ubuntu.
[18:36] <holstein> profall: if you want the functionality that lvm provides, you'll use it
[18:36] <holstein> !lvm
[18:37] <profall> Ok let me look at these docs
[18:37] <profall> Figure out my wifi
[18:37] <Seveas> Geo: I always forget the spelling of that, so I use the dpkg-reconfigure one :-)
[18:37] <Geo> heh, ok
[18:38] <phunyguy> !away > hamiltont|away
[18:39] <hamiltont|away> aplogies, still figuring out my ZNC setup. I'll look into it
[18:39] <profall> Well d-link has drivers for linux but not very specific
[18:39] <profall> http://www.dlink.com/uk/en/home-solutions/connect/adapters/dwa-171-wireless-ac-dual-band-usb-adapter
[18:41] <Beldar> profall, Amazon has a lot of linux compliant usb wifi that are very cheap some less that 10$, I would want a plug and play myself.
[18:42] <profall> Yea but my wifi router is 5ghz and I need this to connect well
[18:43] <lukemorrison> profall: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2168426
[18:44] <profall> Ok
[18:44] <Geo> Seveas, that didnt work :/
[18:44] <profall> How do I install driver
[18:44] <Geo> what else should I try?
[18:44] <profall> I see it in lsusb
[18:44] <Geo> fstab lists the drive properly, but mtab reverts to the old drive
[18:45] <Geo> do I need to edit mtab, then run dpkg-reconfigure?
[18:45] <Geo> or perhaps some update to grub?
[18:45] <holstein> profall: you need to refer to the docs and see what chipset you have.. what chipset do you have?
[18:46] <holstein> profall: if you want to install whatever dlink is providing, if they provide a driver, you'll read the docs there, and make sure that you are complying with requirements
[18:46] <profall> Ok
[18:46] <holstein> profall: connecting "well", may be a matter of compromise.. if you are not promised linux support, and trying to do something that the creator has not intended
[18:47] <Geo> update-grub, mayne?
[18:47] <Geo> *maybe
[18:48] <holstein> profall: i find, typically things "just work" when plugging them in... though, in some cases, when they do not, i personally refer to the document i suggested.. then, i see if there is a driver in the repositories that supports my hardware, that for legal reason, cannot be included in the kernel
[18:48] <Beldar> Geo, Do you have the original HD and the new one on the computer?
[18:49] <Geo> yes
[18:49] <Geo> it is loading the old drive as / right now, I'd like to instead mount the new drive to /
[18:49] <starbuck> hi, i get this error message from cron, could somebody tell me where the problem leis? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7722757/
[18:50] <rsw> is it possible to upgrade an ubuntu desktop version using update-manager-core?
[18:50] <Beldar> Geo, Check the UUID's of the partitions with blkid grub is not really able to separate this, however you can change the new to a /dev/sdXX in the new HD's fstab for now to get everything confrimed running
[18:50] <Beldar> Geo, Sounds like identical UUID's is all.
[18:51] <Seveas> Geo: mtab is one of those files you should not rsync over (like /run, /sys, /proc, /dev/, /tmp and /var/tmp)
[18:51] <Geo> Beldar: no, different UUIDs
[18:51] <Geo> I've updated fstab to mount the new UUID
[18:51] <Geo> but I'm pretty sure I need to tell grub where to boot from
[18:52] <Beldar> Geo, I would pull the original HD out to fix this, and make sure it's mbr is the boot
[18:52] <Seveas> Geo: and are you updating the initramfs after booting using the new harddrive (edit the grub menu to force it)
[18:52] <Geo> Seveas: editing grub i think is the missing step- what do I need to edit there?
[18:53] <braindrop> hi
[18:53] <Beldar> Geo, Is the first choice in grub going to the old HD?
[18:54] <braindrop> does anyone know what the events counter in mdadm means? I've been googling and found no answer. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1423890
[18:54] <braindrop> in mdadm --detail /dev/md0 my events counter is climbing rapidly, currently reading "Events : 526822"
[18:54] <Geo> Beldar, there is no grub choice screen
[18:54] <Geo> and I'm remote at the current moment
[18:54] <Geo> so what I'm asking is how to update grub
[18:55] <Geo> I just found grub.cfg
[18:55] <Geo> and I see the old UUID in there
[18:55] <Beldar> Geo, not there
[18:55] <Geo> I'm thinking changing that should do the trick?
[18:55] <Geo> ok, where should I look?
[18:55] <Beldar> Geo, Why are you remote?
[18:56] <Geo> ...
[18:56] <Geo> because I am?
[18:56] <Geo> the box is far far away?
[18:56] <Geo> heh
[18:56] <Beldar> Geo, This is an easy fix if at the computer is all.
[18:56] <Geo> ?
[18:56] <Geo> ok, well, I'm not :)
[18:57] <Geo> so updating grub.cfg wont fix this then?
[18:58] <dioioib> why did we need to lock now the chanel?
[18:58] <Beldar> dioioib, spam
[18:58] <dioioib> dman
[18:58] <dioioib> that sucks.
[18:59] <Beldar> dioioib, Do have a support issue?
[18:59] <dioioib> not at all I am here to help people if they need it
[18:59] <Beldar> cool
[19:01] <Beldar> Geo, For info really. https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[19:02] <Geo> i'm reading through several links now... I'm really just hoping someone can tell me how to update grub to boot from a different partition
[19:02] <Geo> Not sure why I can't edit grub.cfg
[19:02] <Beldar> Geo, I would manually boot to the new HD and do this from the desktop.
[19:03] <Geo> if I could boot to the other hd, i wouldn't be asking here... It only boots to the old drive
[19:03] <Beldar> Geo, The methods your using is just a long way around is all.
[19:03] <Beldar> Geo, YOU can manually boot it.
[19:05] <Laogeodritt> Sigh, yay mass highlights? =|
[19:06] <Geo> Beldar: how?
[19:06] <phunyguy> Laogeodritt: a while back.  It's over for now.
[19:06] <Laogeodritt> I've been subject to way too many of those lately (in different channels)...
[19:07] <Beldar> Geo, Bro, if your only option is to have help your probably not going to get this done, this is a situation you can figure out, and will be proud you did, I have given you some key info, do some research, and I gave you the grub manual.
[19:08] <Geo> fantastic.
[19:08] <Beldar> Geo, some will hold your hand, I wont.
[19:09] <Geo> i *know* I have to boot to the othe drive, my question is that i cant, how do I do it. Telling me the answer is to boot to the other drie doesn't help
[19:09] <profall> Man idk what to do with this wireless shit
[19:09] <phunyguy> language pleaser
[19:09] <phunyguy> -r
[19:09] <Beldar> profall, keep the language clean please.
[19:10] <holstein> phunyguy: you are not promised linux support from dlink, which makes it challenging.. what chipset do you have?
[19:10] <holstein> phunyguy: sory.. profall ^
[19:10] <phunyguy> :P
[19:10] <profall> Dwa-171
[19:10] <profall> See it has linux drivers
[19:10] <profall> There documentation is so vague
[19:11] <holstein> !wifi
[19:11] <profall> Like "theres the install.sh thats it"
[19:11] <holstein> profall: in a terminal, you can run "lspci" and share that via pastebin...
[19:11] <holstein> !Paste
[19:11] <adamcunnington> By default, does cp copy or move (i.e. delete where it's copying from)?
[19:11] <profall> I am on my tablet on ir
[19:11] <profall> Irc
[19:11] <adamcunnington> Secondly, I'm using -R to copy recursively but the recursive folders don't exist at dest, how can I force them to be created?
[19:12] <profall> Ill send a photomlol
[19:12] <profall> Photo***
[19:12] <profall> Its usb
[19:12] <profall> No pcie
[19:13] <profall> Lsusb pulls it up
[19:13] <holstein> profall: then, share what chipset you have, friend
[19:13] <profall> D-link dwa-171
[19:13] <profall> Usb
[19:13] <holstein> profall: no.. thats the model #
[19:13] <holstein> profall: what i want, is the chipset ... from lspci or lsusb, please
[19:14] <adamcunnington> hello?
[19:14] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, cp does not move.
[19:14] <profall> Bus 002 Device 006: 2001:3314 D-Link Corp.
[19:14] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, -Rf should force that, never noticed that -R would not create destinationfolders
[19:14] <profall> Thats lsusb
[19:15] <holstein> profall: do you see the device in "ifconfig" ?
[19:15] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: thanks
[19:16] <profall> Nope
[19:17] <holstein> profall: this is quite recent.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2168426.html
[19:17] <profall> Well i know but like...
[19:18] <profall> How do I install kt
[19:18] <profall> There just like "yea these work"
[19:18] <holstein> profall: i would ask the creators of the drivers.. or, follow the post in the link above
[19:19] <holstein> profall: the one from chili555
[19:19] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: ah the error is "cannot create directory as read-only file system. It's a USB stick
[19:26] <Geo> How can I update grub to boot from a new, different partition?
[19:26] <holstein> Geo: you can install it over there.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:27] <Bashing-om> Geo: (??) You have more than one 'buntu operating system installed ?
[19:27] <Geo> Bashing-om: yes
[19:29] <Geo> holstein: need to do this via command line, i dont have phys access to the machine at this point in time
[19:29] <Bashing-om> Geo: The last system installed has control of the booting process. What you can do is boot the system you want as the primary, and from the primary OS (RE-)install grub to be that boot controller. ( only 1 may be that controlling boot authority).
[19:30] <Geo> Does updating grub.cfg really not work?
[19:30] <Geo> Bashing-om: so thats part of the problem, is I cant get this partition to boot
[19:30] <Geo> doing this via ssh, and I have no way of choosing
[19:30] <dward> anyone know a good resource to add a Windows 8 partition to grub?
[19:31] <dward> is it pretty easy?
[19:31] <Beldar> dward, This a OEM W8?
[19:32] <dward> ya but it's been activated. I bought this computer with 8 on it, installed ubuntu and left a partition with 8 on it.
[19:33] <Beldar> dward, Can you run sudo parted -l and pastebin it
[19:33] <Bashing-om> Geo: It could be as simple as booting to that primary and issueing terminal command -> sudo grub-install /dev/sdX <- where sdX would be the hard drive where the OS is installed to ( sda, sdb or say sdc).
[19:33] <gartral> i think the Disks Utility is bugged... http://i.imgur.com/mLRpmgD.png this disk is NOT ok
[19:34] <dward> @Beldar http://pastebin.com/rW5HfzHa
[19:34] <dward> kind of a mess, i know...
[19:36] <robotdevil> what is all that shit?
[19:36] <robotdevil> sorry stuff
[19:36] <Beldar> !bootinfo | dward run this and post it
[19:36] <Beldar> !language | robotdevil
[19:37] <meek_geek> !Beldar
[19:38] <Beldar> meek_geek, Harrasing the channel and users will not help you here
[19:38] <meek_geek> I am not harassing when did i do so ?
[19:38] <meek_geek> I was just trying to see what it did
[19:38] <meek_geek> !testdisk
[19:39] <Beldar> Act like adults and no swearing
[19:39] <dward> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7722970/ here's the result of bootinfo
[19:39] <dward> thanks for the help
[19:40] <profall>  YEAAAA wifi nets avaialble !!!! Thank you guys
[19:40] <meek_geek> Beldar, ok sorry
[19:41] <Bashing-om> Geo: Well, IF grub.cfg is good, then it is possible to boot any OS on any partition from a grub > prompt.
[19:41] <profall> How do I run updates for gui ubunutu
[19:42] <profall> Just apt-get update or
[19:42] <bekks> profall: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:42] <profall> Ty
[19:43] <dward> sdb5 has my windows8 partition on it.
[19:43] <Beldar> dward, That is really messed up, a efi windows install on a gpt HD and a msdos on sda and a standard not efi ubuntu install. Is there any chance you can just reinstall all this in a msdos configure?
[19:44] <dward> ya... i kind of thought that would be the case. I knew it was pretty bad. Thanks for looking though, Beldar.
[19:45] <profall> Dist-upgrade is hanging
[19:45] <profall> There it goes
[19:45] <Beldar> dward, If you do this you want to wipe the sdb including the mbr correctly got does at times leave remnants is all.
[19:45] <Beldar> gpt*
[19:46] <dward> okay
[19:47] <Beldar> dward, You can have all gpt as well, just needs the right installs and partition tables
[19:49] <Bashing-om> Geo: If you want to try booting up from grub; pastebinit -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l < - to see what there is to work with.
[19:49] <Geo> Bashing-om: thanks... did that, but got grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.
[19:49] <Geo> but its ext3
[19:49] <Beldar> msdos is just much easier at least to me anyway in what seems to probably be a uefi bios, not sure there though I think we have met before, and this is a 2009 computer dward
[19:49] <Geo> is that a 'normal' warning?
[19:49] <Geo> not sure where its getting ext2 from
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Geo: Not positive, but that might be a 'warning' in respect to installing grub onto the partition rather than onto the MBR of the hard drive .
[19:51] <Geo> oh
[19:51] <Geo> duh
[19:51] <Geo> you r smart.
[19:52] <Geo> ok, now I see it in grub.cfg atleast
[19:52] <Geo> so I just need to find where to move it to the default option
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Geo: Booting from grub, did you do something like -> linux (hd0,msdos3)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 ro <- ?? also direct to the initrd.img file .
[19:54] <Geo> no, didnt boot from grub
[19:54] <Geo> I dont think I can do that, I have to ssh in right now
[19:54] <Geo> I just need to find the file that the boot order is set in, and I think I'll be set
[19:55] <Geo> etc/default/grub ...
[19:56] <Geo> I'm guessing change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to 1
[19:56] <dward> \quit
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Geo: I am afraid if we try and move a boot file, the kernel will be unaware of the move, and will reealy hose things up - if we do not go through the package manager to make the chage ? // Might think about a full CHange ROOT from ssh'n in and see what results. I have never done it, so will be an experiment // But, I can see where it is doable.
[19:57] <cerry> I've got a working mashine and got asked to encrypt the hard drive in case it's getting stolen. I think primary concerns are the ssh-keys and the database tables (running local mysql server). I assume having sensible data in local databases isn't best practice but for the moment encryption would be good enough.
[19:58] <Geo> so, my naivety here, but wouldnt changing etc/default/grub and then update-grub update the .cfg file properly, which is then used by grub after the next reboot?
[19:58] <cerry> So I ponder whether to encrypt the full hdd (actually sdd) or just /home and /var (I've extra petition for those as well as / and /boot/efi)
[19:59] <cerry> The latter option doesn't seem to require a full new installation …
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Geo: If the boot files for both os's are in place, I would think that chankging the default boot in that /etc/grub file to the entry ( as seen in /boot/grub.cfg ) would work to change the default boot order.
[19:59] <Geo> Bashing-om: well, I did what I just said... we'll see how bad it breaks :) maybe I'll owe you a beer
[20:00] <Bashing-om> chnaging*
[20:00] <Geo> oh, before I reboot- any thoughts on how i can make sure I picked the correct index value?
[20:01] <Geo> oh, cool - you can use the quoted text value instead of a number
[20:01] <Bashing-om> Geo: Ain't nothing we can not undo working with /etc/grub ///just have to keep in mind the numbering of the os' starting at 0 for that first index.
[20:02] <Geo> yep... using the string instead of index now
[20:02] <Geo> lots of things to break! :)
[20:02] <Bashing-om> Geo: Been awhile.. lemme go look and see that 'header00' is not what we want to look at.
[20:04] <Geo> here we go
[20:04] <Geo> the default= in grub.cfg was updated to reflect my target partition, so thts good
[20:05] <Geo> oh, haha
[20:05] <Geo> grub-set-default
[20:05] <Geo> handy little command that would have been helpful to know of a few mins ago
[20:06] <Geo> now we wait for the reboot.
[20:07] <brasileiro> guys, I'm having performance problems on my Ubuntu using XFCE4... when I try to watch a movie (with VLC or MPlayer) or even listen to some MP3 (Rhytmbox) it lags out from time to time.... the weird is that I use an Intel i7 with 6gb DDR3 ( http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-17r-se-7720/pd )... I'm thinking maybe there's some kernel mod problems? any ideas?
[20:08] <texla> Is there a way to add themes to 14.04 without using PPA's
[20:08] <Avihay__> brasileiro: first suspect should be pulse imho
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> !themes | texla
[20:09] <brasileiro> Avihay__, ok, and what can I do about it?
[20:09] <Avihay__> try running vlc from a terminal, it spews out plenty of error messeges to get a hint to what's wrong
[20:10] <Avihay__> also, see if restarting pulse helps
[20:10] <Avihay__> pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio --start
[20:11] <Geo> newp.
[20:13] <brasileiro> Avihay__, thanks! can I pastebin the vlc output for you to take a look?
[20:13] <Geo> just wish i could count the index numbers easily somehow, from grub.cfg
[20:13] <Bashing-om> Geo: As in no ! .. does not boot the OS you desire ?
[20:13] <Avihay__> sure, though, you'd need to paste the output from when a skip occors
[20:14] <Avihay__> occurres*
[20:15] <brasileiro> Avihay__, http://pastebin.com/bZUzjiMM
[20:15] <Bashing-om> Geo: Idid look, and not found as I was looking for... the numbering starts at 'zero' and I do think that also applies to grub.cfg // are we still together after the netsplit ?//
[20:16] <Geo> yeah, I'm here
[20:16] <Geo> i know to start at 0
[20:16] <Geo> I counted the non-indented 'menuentry' commands
[20:16] <Geo> i think thats what I'm looking for
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Geo: Look for the UUIDs .. each os will have a different UUID.
[20:17] <Geo> theres lots of entires with the same one, for different flavors of it (settings)
[20:17] <Geo> anway
[20:17] <Geo> lets see how this does
[20:18] <Sunstream> wow
[20:18] <Sunstream> pingouts
[20:18] <brasileiro> Avihay__, and I'm using VLC 2.1.4
[20:21] <Avihay__> brasileiro: well, the log does suggest it's a sound issye, tough not only. I found this after some searching: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/01/msg00067.html
[20:24] <brasileiro> Avihay__, I see... the problem is that it also happens using mplayer or even rhythmbox
[20:24] <Sunstream> is there a way I can have a emulated desktop of Windows using WINE?
[20:25] <Avihay> Sunstream: yes. run wineconfig, and look around
[20:25] <Avihay> tough you'll need somth like explorer.exe if you want taskbar startmenu and stuff
[20:26] <Avihay> brasileiro: which suggests it's a sound or video issue that is in the driver/hardware layers, rather then somth with a specific player
[20:27] <enedil> sudo -i
[20:27] <enedil> password
[20:27] <enedil> oh, wrong window
[20:29] <brasileiro> Avihay, do you have any tips where I can start looking into that?
[20:30] <Avihay> brasileiro: google? I don't really know
[20:31] <Sunstream> wow
[20:31] <Crackz0s> Hello
[20:31] <Crackz0s> Guys i would like to know what is the best way to set a outgoing mail server, secure and easy
[20:31] <brasileiro> Avihay, ok, thanks very much =)
[20:31] <rww> ubottu: mailserver
[20:32] <Crackz0s> Good Thank you very much
[20:32] <gr33n7007h> Can someone tell me what's the latest version of Ruby in the repos on 14.04?
[20:33] <rww> !info ruby trusty | gr33n7007h
[20:34] <gr33n7007h> rww, thnx
[20:36] <Bashing-om> Geo: -> grep -e "menuentry " -e "submenu" /boot/grub/grub.cfg | sed 's/^[ \t]*//' | cut -d "'" -f1,2 | nl --starting-line-number=0 <- tested, works; To see the entry number and menu contents.
[20:39] <akurilin> quick questino: what does ubuntu use nowadays for its startup scripts? Just init.d and rcx? I'm reading a text and it says that starting iwth Feisty it was using /etc/event.d , but there's nothing alike on my Trusty
[20:40] <rww> upstart
[20:40] <Bashing-om> Geo: Also; sudo grub-set-default 2 <- Before that will work, the top line in the /etc/default/grub file that looks like 'GRUB_DEFAULT=0' needs to be changed to 'GRUB_DEFAULT=saved'.
[20:53] <unstable> My clock doesn't show on 14.04 anymore, any idea why? When I go to time and date, then clock... everything is faded out.
[20:55] <loucal> I'm playing around with gtk themes and I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on how this works and if I'm making the right assumptions.  I normally use gnome-settings-daemon under fluxbox and my hypothesis is that uses gtk-3.0.  I mostly am happy with these settings, but when gnome-settings-daemon crashes I see what I think are gtk-2.0 theme settings which I mostly do not like except the file, edit etc toolbar which is dark instead 
[20:55] <loucal> light (fits everything better for most apps) so I have been trying to figure out which is which and where I can edit it.
[20:56] <jester-> loucal: tray sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[20:57] <loucal> jester-:  I think maybe you were answering unstable
[21:02] <eam> hi all, where can I find the srpm equivalent for ubuntu packages?
[21:02] <eam> I need to dig up the build environment
[21:03] <OerHeks> !source
[21:03] <catalase> once before, someone suggested that i setup a cronjob to restart my server so that in case i mess up my SSH access, i will still be able to access the server again after a set amount of time
[21:03] <catalase> is there a better way of doing this?
[21:04] <eam> OerHeks: great, thanks.
[21:11] <iDevelop> Hi
[21:12] <iDevelop> Have those idiots stopped spamming us here?
[21:12] <iDevelop> The people spamming names earlier
[21:12] <rww> clearly
[21:12] <Keanu73> aww gtg to bed for school tomorrow
[21:12] <Keanu73> byee :3
[21:15] <profall> Hey
[21:16] <profall> So I have no clue where to start to get drivers for my sound card
[21:17] <profall> 03:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs Device 0012 (rev 01)
[21:20] <TJ-> profall: Creative don't support the Linux kernel well, last time I checked, there was little to absolutely no support for many of their devices
[21:21] <profall> ok
[21:22] <veebull> So... changed distros back to Ubuntu yesterday (from Min17), kept /home untouched, and having a little trouble with my bash login.
[21:22] <balooo> Hi guys, i'm having serious problems and was hoping someone could help me login to my machine.  I keep getting redirected back to the login page.  I have tried to google it but none of the suggestions have worked for me, and I'm not sure how to debug it further.  I have tried .Xauthority, / .ICEauthoriy / logging in with gnome-fallback-session / fixing .profile and .bashrc.   I can currently login through the guest user, or my main user only
[21:22] <balooo> through the terminal.  I am on ubuntu 12.05
[21:22] <profall> ok well I guess ill use my mobo soundcard
[21:22] <veebull> keeps griping about not finding a particular program/script (that isn't currently installed).
[21:23] <veebull> I went and removed the lines from .bashrc, sourced it and still get the same complaint.  Rebooted the machine... still complains that it can't find the program.
[21:23] <veebull> No idea where its getting a call to find it in the first place?!?
[21:26] <profall> I have Realtek ALC892 soundcard in my mobo, it works but it's not "loud".
[21:26] <ki7mt> veebull, what program/script is it *not* finding that it complains about?
[21:26] <profall> Guess I need drivers since Ubuntu just says "generic sound card" or whatever
[21:26] <profall> Any guidances?
[21:27] <veebull> ki7mt: virtualenvwrapper.sh
[21:28] <ki7mt> veebull, that's python env tools yes?
[21:28] <veebull> yes.
[21:28] <veebull> bash: /usr/share/virtualenvwrapper/virtualenvwrapper_lazy.sh: No such file or directory
[21:29] <ki7mt> veebull, doesn't that also install a dot folder in /home ?
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenvwrapper/3.4
[21:29] <veebull> I'd had lines at the end of .bashrc to source the appropriate file, but hadn't installed virtualenvwrapper yet.
[21:29] <veebull> installed it using pip, then bash started complaining it couldn't find the 'lazy' version
[21:30] <veebull> tried fixing that per the virtualenvwrapper docs, and that didn't help anything.
[21:30] <ki7mt> veebull, that's what I would do, install it, then remove it properly on the Ubuntu build Mint is ok, but there's allot of things that are goofy with the desktop.
[21:30] <veebull> so I just removed the offending lines from .bashrc entirely.... and it *still* complains that it can't find the file.
[21:31] <veebull> how would I replace the .bashrc I have with a clean 'system default' one so I know I have a pure 'buntu version?
[21:31] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> yes may i help u
[21:31] <Foxhoundz> how do I connect to a wireless network via terminal?
[21:31] <Foxhoundz> I'm ssh'ing to my linux box that had its wifi cut out
[21:32] <ki7mt> veebull, If your sure you want that .. I think /etc/skel/.bashrc .. I'll go look for sure
[21:32] <veebull> ki7mt: was just looking at that.
[21:32] <veebull> looks pretty much like what I have.
[21:33] <ki7mt> veebull, Yeah, it's there, /etc/skel/.bashrc is use when creating new accounts.
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> Foxhoundz  man iwconfig
[21:33] <ki7mt> veebull, But Im not sure that's going to fix the problem, something still looking for virtualenv
[21:33] <profall> what browser do you guys use?
[21:34] <Foxhoundz> MonkeyDust: is iwconfig still limited to WEP encrypted nodes?
[21:34] <Foxhoundz> profall: Chrome, of course.
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> Foxhoundz  not sure, don't use wireless
[21:35] <veebull> Aaaarrrrgghhh.
[21:35] <profall> yea. I am using chrome as well.
[21:35] <veebull> This is getting really old really fast.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> veebull: what is?
[21:36] <veebull> Desktop locked up *again*
[21:36] <ki7mt> veebull, also check that bash completion has it removed also: /etc/bash_completion.d/virtualenvwrapper
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> veebull: which release are you using?
[21:36] <veebull> mouse just freezes, nothing responds, but I can switch to a virtual terminal via Ctrl+Alt+F1
[21:36] <veebull> ActionParsnip: 14.04LTS
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> veebull: is it the same in all DEs?
[21:37] <veebull> only using unity
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> veebull: is it a USB mouse?
[21:37] <veebull> switched back from Mint yesterday... already starting to regret that
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> veebull: unity isnt a DE, you are using Gnome DE.
[21:38] <veebull> ActionParsnip: touchpad initially.  USB mouse doesn't change anything
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> veebull: install xfce4. Log off then log into the XFCE session, is it ok there?
[21:38] <usr13> veebull: What's to regret?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> veebull: is the system a laptop?
[21:38] <veebull> Dude, I wouldn't know for anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours... its completely random so far as I can tell
[21:38] <veebull> yes
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> veebull: what make and modeln
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> veebull: do you have the latest bios?
[21:39] <usr13> veebull: So you get no repsonse from mouse or keyboard in these lockups?
[21:39] <profall> alright, well all my drivers are installed. Now for some customization haha
[21:39] <veebull> Lenovo ThinkPad T530, been running Ubuntu pretty much flawlessly since November '12
[21:39] <ki7mt> veebull, for you python env issue, try this to locate reference to it: sudo grep -lir "virtualenvwrapper" /etc/  then remove the virtualenvwrapper references.
[21:40] <usr13> veebull: And you can not get to a console, and you can not ssh in from another PC?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> veebull: try another DE, sudo apt-get install xfce4 ,then logoff and log in to XFCE to test
[21:40] <veebull> don't really have another machine to ssh in from, unless I want to setup a Raspberry Pi just for that.
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> veebull: not got a smartphone?
[21:41] <veebull> As I said, I can get to a console via CtrlAltF1, and log in, etc.
[21:41] <usr13> veebull: Try ActionParsnip's suggestion,  (xfce).
[21:41] <Geo> Bashing-om: thanks
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> veebull: android has many ssh clients...
[21:41] <veebull> ActionParsnip: sounds... painful... to try to do anything useful via keyboard on my Samsug galaxy S4
[21:41] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Never mind, he says he can get a Console, so...
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> veebull: if XFCE is ok then its either Gnome being an ass, or (more likely imho, compiz)
[21:42] <Foxhoundz> I get the following issue when trying to upgrade ubuntu via terminal
[21:42] <Foxhoundz> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::18)]
[21:42] <Foxhoundz> it looks like it's using IPv6 to connect
[21:42] <k1l> are the 11.04 sources already put down and one need to put in the old-releases for an upgrade?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> veebull: i do it all the time. I'm typing to you now on an Galaxy Tab 2 7"
[21:42] <Foxhoundz> it just stays at 0% indefinitely
[21:42] <veebull> since I've never had a happy experience installing xfce via anything other than Xubuntu...
[21:42] <veebull> ActionParsnip: wee bit bigger there... not much... but enough ;)
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> veebull: sudo apt-get install lxde ,then
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> veebull: just something that doesn't use Compiz
[21:43] <veebull> ActionParsnip: more a matter of how much do I need to pull in... just sudo apt-get install xfce?
[21:43] <owen1> lost my wired internet. where do i start troubleshooting this?
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> veebull: you need to explore the issue to see what the problem is.
[21:43] <usr13> k1l: 11.04's EOL was  October 28, 2012
[21:44] <veebull> What about just turning *off* compiz?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> veebull: xfce4
[21:44] <owen1> ping not responding but i see inet addr in 'ifconfig'
[21:44] <owen1> under both eth0 and wlan0
[21:44] <k1l> usr13: i know. i am just helping another user to make the upgrades and wondering if we need to put the old-releases into sources.list first
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> veebull: you could install openbox and press ALT+F2 and run: openbox --replace
[21:44] <owen1> (it's new ubuntu install. was fine in the first 2 days)
[21:45] <profall> is there a better package manager or is the stock one pretty good?
[21:45] <usr13> owen1: Could be a hardware issue.  Try another NIC.
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> owen1: sudo lshw -C network ,will show the aethernet chip
[21:46] <Bashing-om> Geo: I did little, are you able to boot the OS as desired now > What is your solution ?
[21:46] <remuxa> after installing jwm from the universe repo i notice that background images don't load
[21:46] <veebull> ki7mt: how do I delete the reference to virtualenvwrapper?  I can find them, but can't seem to remove them.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> profall: the default has worked for years......
[21:46] <profall> ok
[21:46] <owen1> usr13: what does it mean to try another NIC
[21:46] <remuxa> i've scrutinized the available documentation thoroughly, but nothing comes up that could help
[21:47] <usr13> owen1: Network Interface Card
[21:47] <owen1> replace the phisical card?
[21:47] <veebull> ki7mt: nevermind, missed the '.d' at the end of /etc/bash_completion.d/virtualenvwrapper
[21:47] <usr13> owen1: Yes
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Owen1: what Ethernet chip are you using?
[21:48] <owen1> ActionParsnip: 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection
[21:48] <jmalone> Is there an easy way to get the Oracle JDK installed in Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> owen1: if you run: sudo rfkill unblock all ,does it help?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> jmalone: webupd8 has a PPA for Oracle Java
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> jmalone: works great plus it autoupdates which is great :-)
[21:49] <veebull> ActionParsnip: so once I get xfce4 installed how long do you suggest I run it to determine if its a compiz problem, and then what do I do about it?
[21:49] <owen1> ActionParsnip: nope
[21:49] <jmalone> What I'm looking for. Thanks!
[21:49] <Beldar> jmalone, with a ppa yes. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/02/install-oracle-java-6-7-or-8-ubuntu-14-04/
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> veebull: as long as you've seen it lock up
[21:49] <usr13> veebull: Just see if the lock-ups quit happening.
[21:50] <veebull> I *thought* they'd quit happening this morning
[21:50] <usr13> veebull: Fully updated, right?
[21:50] <diegows> hi
[21:50] <veebull> usr13: yeup
[21:50] <usr13> veebull: ok.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> veebull: try it a few days then. You may want to test RAM using Memtest86 from Grub
[21:50] <diegows> are there some documentation about the meaning of the numbers in an expert partman recipe? (preseed)
[21:51] <OerHeks> owen1, 82579LM happens to be an e1000e NIC, known issues with this chip
[21:51] <shimano> Guys... Does ZFS support online device add/remove (like btrfs)?
[21:51] <veebull> ActionParsnip: something that popped to mind... probably a little late to the party... but this machine *does* have an nVidia chipset
[21:53] <veebull> Initial install setup the Xorg driver, then I selected the nVidia binary/proprietary one after install.  A few hours later after the first lockup, I went back to the original Xorg driver, just in case.
[21:53] <owen1> OerHeks: thanks. did u google for that or u just know?
[21:53] <veebull> didn't seem to make any difference.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> veebull: nvidia is fine
[21:53] <OerHeks> owen1, google told me 82579lm is that famous intel one.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> veebull: if you run: sudo lshw -C display ,do you see an Intel GPU too?
[21:54] <veebull> yes
[21:54] <owen1> OerHeks: ok. thanks!
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> veebull: did you install nvidia prime, or bumblebee?
[21:54] <veebull> no
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> veebull: you have an optimus setup
[21:55] <veebull> so...?
[21:57] <Geo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7723519/  <-- why does the root line have a different UUID from the options lines? Shouldn't these be the same?
[21:57] <Geo> sorry - frm grub.cfg
[21:58] <Geo> the last UUID is the 'old' hard drive, I want it to boot from the new, but even when it picks the correct entry in grub, it still boots the old
[21:58] <TJ-> Geo: "f725df57" will be the partition/file-system that hosts "/boot/", "f730cc70" will be the file-system containing the root file-system
[21:58] <happyfr0gg> could someone help me figure out how to make the backgrounds to my four workspaces different?
[21:59] <Geo> ah... and if they're supposed to be the same?
[21:59] <happyfr0gg> I know my desktop manager is xfdesktop but don't know where it is for me to make changes to the backgrounds of my workspaces.
[21:59] <TJ-> Geo: That depends on if you've installed "/boot/" to a separate partition or not
[21:59] <Geo> I've been editing etc/default/grub and then running grub-update, what step am I missing?
[21:59] <TJ-> Geo: From what you've said, it sounds as if "f730cc70" is the 'old'
[21:59] <Geo> no, boot and / should be on the 'f725'
[22:00] <TJ-> Geo: "update-grub" should update the UUID of the file-system based on what is in "/etc/fstab"
[22:00] <Geo> hrm
[22:01] <Geo> so snce in running off of the old hd... i should mount the new, chroot, then run it?
[22:01] <Geo> or am I going down the wrong path
[22:01] <TJ-> Geo: that, or manually edit "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" to fix it, reboot, then run "update-grub" from the 'new'
[22:02] <TJ-> Geo: of course, ensure you edit the "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" on the 'new' drive, if you've installed the bootloader to it
[22:03] <Geo> ya
[22:03] <Geo> I think thats where im' going wrong
[22:03] <jackarg> Hi there, I managed to setup primus a while ago, and it works fine. I've just got a really major issue: whenever I use my nvidia card to play a game, my computer randomly shuts off. I prop it up pretty high in case it's overheating, but it still does it, and I'm not sure what to do. It makes it impossible to use the card
[22:03] <jackarg> I'm on 14.04
[22:10] <jmalone> Beldar Thanks! It was exactly what I needed.
[22:11] <jackarg> anyone?
[22:12] <Beldar> jmalone, cool, enjoy
[22:18] <brasileiro> hi everyone.... I'm just installed bumblebee at my 14.04 machine but now the speakers are mute... I can hear everything using headphones... even at the pavucontrol the sound bar only moves when I select the Headphones, when on Speakers it keeps still... could anybody help me?
[22:25] <usr13> brasileiro: Take a look at alsamixer
[22:26] <brasileiro> usr13, specifically at what?
[22:27] <usr13> brasileiro: At everything.
[22:28] <brasileiro> usr13, everything seems fine to me... Master and Speakers are ate 100%
[22:28] <mikeg3> ccccccbjlehhehhkeegrujudjhlrjjvvcuhldinurunc
[22:29] <usr13> brasileiro: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[22:30] <brasileiro> usr13, can hear everything using headphones and nothing on the speakers.... even on the hp the sound isn't located properly (left right)
[22:32] <OerHeks> mikeg3, carefull with your yubikey
[22:33] <gadabout> i got a boot cd with software anyone know how to preform the operations on the disc to compile the programs
[22:33] <BoomerBile> of all things unholy
[22:34] <BoomerBile> who would spam someone named BoomerBile
[22:34] <BoomerBile> here i thought it was something important
[22:34] <OerHeks> gadabout, is this an ubuntu boot cd?
[22:35] <domsson> Any idea what would cause frequent and often heavy flickering of elements on the screen when scrolling, switching tabs and lots of other "interaction" (but NOT present for playing videos)?
[22:36] <gadabout> yeah i believe so
[22:36] <happyfr0gg> How do I change the workspace backgrounds in XFCE?
[22:36] <happyfr0gg> I would like each to be different
[22:37] <Geo> TJ-, that was what I needed, thanks
[22:39] <gadabout> yeah
[22:40] <gadabout> it was an unbuntu cd i got two and one i did all the steps for the software and suspended it and I forgot all about it
[22:41] <adamcunnington> I'm going to dual boot windows 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04. I'm going to create a /root partition for ubuntu OS, a swap partition that is 1.5x my ram and a data partition that will be /home. Windows will then be on it's own partition. Does this all sound ok?
[22:42] <k1l> adamcunnington: windows likes to sit in the first partitions so install that first
[22:42] <adamcunnington> k1l: yea i will, then i'll shrink it to install the other 3
[22:42] <k1l> yep
[22:42] <adamcunnington> k1l: although can i just load live usb first and just use the partition tool to create all 4 partitions? Then quit, install windows, then install ubuntu?
[22:42] <k1l> yep
[22:43] <adamcunnington> k1l: awesome. In terms of my partitions, does that seem ok?
[22:43] <tonyt> is there any way to set ubuntu to be able to place shortcuts onto the desktop?
[22:43] <adamcunnington> tonyt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[22:43] <tonyt> and not into the unity thing on the left of the screen
[22:43] <tonyt> k
[22:43] <gadabout> are the exe files the only files you get or was i doing it right and compiling the software into packages
[22:44] <k1l> adamcunnington: /root, swap and /home is a classic setup. works on most installs
[22:44] <tonyt> thats exactly what i didnt want
[22:44] <TJ-> adamcunnington: That'll be an UEFI system won't it, so you'll need to use a GPT disk layout, and make the first partition the EFI ESP, FAT16/32, ~256MB
[22:44] <tonyt> i dont want to put stuff on the left. no way to  put stuff on the desktop then?
[22:44] <adamcunnington> k1l: what format would they all be?
[22:44] <ki7mt> happyfr0gg,  I think there is a plug-in for that, but it's been a while, something like: workspace switcher or similar.
[22:44] <k1l> adamcunnington: / and /home ext4, swap is swap
[22:44] <TJ-> adamcunnington: And if it is GPT you can use up to 128 partitions by default so there's no crush :)
[22:45] <mekhami> hey, i'm using virtualbox to create an ubuntu virtual machine. with the iso, should i mount this with something like daemon tools or what shoul di do with it? probably dumb question be easy on me
[22:45] <happyfr0gg> ki7mt - thanks, I'll look into it.
[22:45] <adamcunnington> TJ-: what do you mean? That i'll basically need 2 partitions for windows? 1 for system / data and the other for this 256mb thing?
[22:45] <k1l> /needs to be something from 10GB to 20GB on a regular desktop setup. most data will be stored on /home
[22:45] <adamcunnington> k1l: thanks. The windows will be NTFS? Will i be able to access data from it if i mount it within ubuntu? Personal files etc.
[22:46] <TJ-> adamcunnington: Windows will want 2 or 3 partitions I seem to recall seeing
[22:46] <adamcunnington> k1l: what is /? root?
[22:46] <adamcunnington> k1l: the system? Yea i was thinking 20gb
[22:46] <k1l> adamcunnington: yes, you can use the ntfs partitions in ubuntu. just make sure to disable the "fast startup" thing in windows so it gets shutdown correctly
[22:46] <k1l> yes, / is the "root" partition mountpoint
[22:47] <adamcunnington> TJ-: cool, if i use the ubuntu usb to create a single windows partition first off (alongside 3 ubuntu partitions), will windows re-partition it's partition, i.e. divide it into 3? If so that's fine
[22:47] <adamcunnington> k1l: great thanks. I've not done this in ages - when i use the partition tool, can i tell it that i want everything within /home to be a partition automatically?
[22:47] <gadabout> i got a comp with xp and i wanted to set it up with unbuntu and make the software files anyone can help
[22:47] <k1l> adamcunnington: what windows will partitionate will depend on the installation routines it will run (like the backup/restore things frm the manufacturer etc)
[22:48] <TJ-> adamcunnington: For Windows, just reserve space for it
[22:48] <k1l> adamcunnington: if the partitions are set up already you just tell the installer to use the partitions as /, swap  and /home
[22:48] <owen1> i have an bluetooth earphone already paired. how to connect it via the terminal? 'unity-control-center bluetooth' opens the bluetooth setting page but i would like a terminal command if possible. maybe something with 'gsettings'?
[22:48] <adamcunnington> TJ-: yea i was planning on making 1 windows partition and 3 ubuntu first up before installing any os's
[22:49] <adamcunnington> k1l: oh great, it gives me options during installation to choose where the main os, swap and /home go?
[22:49] <k1l> if you choose manual partitioning, yes
[22:49] <eeee> isn't it better to install ubuntu later? windows is going to eat up grub
[22:50] <eeee> then you'd have to run a live cd and reinstall grub
[22:50] <adamcunnington> eeee: yea that was covered off a while back, i never suggested i'd install ubuntu first
[22:50] <eeee> oh ok
[22:50] <adamcunnington> eeee: merely run the ubuntu usb for the purpose of accessing the handy partition tool but after that quitting and installing 8.1 first
[22:53] <histo> eeee: you install windows first then ubuntu
[22:54] <histo> !dualboot | eeee
[22:54] <eeee> histo: exactly my point..
[22:54] <rww> adamcunnington: just tell Windows setup to wipe the disk and then set up its own partitions with whatever total Windows size you want...
[22:55] <rww> then run through that, then boot Ubuntu and tell it to do the rest of the partitioning
[22:55] <rww> no need to pre-do partitions :\
[22:55] <eeee> adamcunnington: if you're installing windows 8 it has a partitioning tool during the installation.. just install it
[22:55] <eeee> yeah i dont see the need to use ubuntu first
[22:55] <adamcunnington> fair enough, i don't trust windows partition tool is all :P
[22:56] <gadabout> i have a boot cd with software on it and i want to install it on my windows xp comp
[22:58] <fridaynext> how do i search for a file thoughout the entire operating system?  looking for myserver.conf
[22:58] <eeee> fridaynext: sudo find / -name myserver.conf
[22:59] <fridaynext> thanks eeee
[22:59] <eeee> sure
[22:59] <fridaynext> eeee: easier than I thought it'd be - and quick!
[22:59] <ki7mt> fridaynext, also see: man locate
[22:59] <eeee> yeah it's pretty quick
[23:00] <histo> adamcunnington: you can always fix what it does later with linux
[23:01] <histo> fridaynext: find / -name myserver.conf 2>/dev/null
[23:01] <adamcunnington> what is difference between /boot and /root?
[23:01] <histo> fridaynext: it's probably in /etc
[23:01] <histo> adamcunnington: /root is root's home  /boot is where all your boot stuff goes
[23:01] <wafflejock__> histo++
[23:02] <fridaynext> histo: yeah, I thought I set it up (doing automysqlbackup) but it turns out 'find' couldn't find it, so i must not have set it up yet.
[23:02] <adamcunnington> histo: ok thanks but what *is* root?
[23:02] <k1l> adamcunnington: dont mix / with /root
[23:02] <wafflejock__> adamcunnington: root is the super admin user
[23:02] <adamcunnington> k1l: confused, what are they?
[23:02] <histo> fridaynext: it's myserver.cnf
[23:02] <wafflejock__> adamcunnington: / is referred to as the root of the filesystem
[23:02] <Fall> :D
[23:02] <OerHeks> no such folder /root, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/
[23:02] <wafflejock__> adamcunnington: it means it's just the base of a tree of directories
[23:03] <k1l> adamcunnington: / is like drive c. everything goes there except you tell something to be placed somewhere else, like /home onto another partition
[23:03] <histo> fridaynext: look in /etc/mysql/
[23:03] <adamcunnington> right ok, so when we're talking partitions, we're talking swap, /home (settings and documents etc.), /boot and / ? not /root?
[23:03] <histo> adamcunnington: yes if you want multiple partitoins
[23:03] <histo> !partition | adamcunnington
[23:04] <histo> adamcunnington: most users can just get away with / and /swap    I just / and use a swapfile
[23:04] <fridaynext> histo: not in there, but I do have /etc/automysqlbackup/automysqlbackup.conf in it, so i'll just set the settings there.
[23:04] <wafflejock__> same here
[23:04] <wafflejock__> would be nice to separate home though for migration purposes
[23:04] <k1l> adamcunnington: no /boot needed in most cases. that is included into the / partition
[23:04] <histo> fridaynext: what settings are you looking for?
[23:04] <adamcunnington> histo: what's the purpose of separating /boot?
[23:05] <adamcunnington> k1l: ok, what is the benefit of separating /boot?
[23:05] <histo> adamcunnington: that way your system can still boot in some fashion if other stuff is damaged
[23:05] <wafflejock__> adamcunnington: I suppose isolation if you want to back up partitions separately
[23:05] <k1l> adamcunnington: there are setups where you need a own /boot partitions, but then you know about that
[23:05] <k1l> adamcunnington: some encryption setups need that and other special setups for servers etc
[23:05] <fridaynext> histo: just trying to set up the automysqlbackup to backup multiple users' db's into different owncloud folders. I'm guessing it'll be more complicated than a normal automysqlbackup setup.
[23:05] <adamcunnington> ok guess i won't bother with it
[23:05] <TJ-> adamcunnington: with encryption, being able to get to the boot-loader and keep the other file-systems secure
[23:05] <histo> adamcunnington: e.g. you could still get busybox running but other utils and tools are in /
[23:06] <histo> fridaynext: no idea what automysqlbackup is  but I'm assuming it's configuratoin would be in a file somewhere in /etc/automysqlbackup  you can try asking in #ubuntu-server or man automysqlbackup
[23:06] <histo> adamcunnington: and the other reasons people ahve stated
[23:07] <wafflejock__> fridaynext: locate automysqlbackup or dpkg -L automysqlbackup may help too
[23:07] <fridaynext> wafflejock__: yeah, I already found the conf file - now i just need to set it up.
[23:07] <fridaynext> Thanks for your help, everyone.
[23:07] <eeee> fridaynext: /etc/default/automysqlbackup
[23:07] <histo> adamcunnington: What are you going to use this system for?
[23:07] <adamcunnington> ok thanks guys
[23:08] <adamcunnington> 1 final thing - i'm going to be doing all this on a SSD, does that change anything?
[23:08] <fridaynext> eeee: it's in /etc/automysqlbackup/automysqlbackup.conf
[23:08] <eeee> fridaynext: oh ok
[23:08] <adamcunnington> other than swap is damaging and I may want to omit it and let my kernel kill apps in the virtually-unforseeable instance where 16gb of ram won't be enough
[23:08] <histo> adamcunnington: I would edit your /etc/fstab after installing and add the noatime option to any partitions on the ssd
[23:09] <histo> adamcunnington: and change your swappiness setting
[23:09] <adamcunnington> histo: just -noatime? what does that do?
[23:09] <adamcunnington> histo: what do you think of my comment of having no swap
[23:10] <histo> adamcunnington: doesn't update the access times for files on that file system.
[23:10] <k1l> adamcunnington: you could think about no using swap at all if you got enough ram and dont want to suspend to dis
[23:10] <k1l> k
[23:10] <eeee> you can't sleep or hibernate i think with no swap
[23:10] <k1l> standby works but no hibernation
[23:10] <histo> adamcunnington: You could create a swap file or partition just change teh swappiness setting so it doesn't get used unless it absolutely has to.
[23:11] <adamcunnington> eeee: i know hibernation doesn't work but do i really want to be adding to the degradation of the disk with swapping? ssd space is £££
[23:11] <adamcunnington> histo: yea but in those instances i'd probably prefer the kernel just killed apps to free space. this is a home PC
[23:11] <histo> adamcunnington: the kernel doesn't it will just lock
[23:12] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, You better off creating one, then chenge the swapiness level to like 10 or something v.s. 60
[23:12] <john_rambo> vlc 2.1.4/Manjaro .... I installed the Remember position plugin and its seems to be installed http://imagebin.ca/v/1RdjdROHjb3z.....but vlc still doesnt remember last position
[23:12] <histo> or 0
[23:12] <john_rambo> Anyone using this plugin ?
[23:12] <adamcunnington> ki7mt: ok, how do i edit the setting? is that the only setting? like a 'tolerance score'?
[23:12] <histo> adamcunnington: yeah
[23:12] <adamcunnington> how do?
[23:12] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, Swap Info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[23:13] <adamcunnington> ty
[23:13] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, See What is swapiness section of the link.
[23:13] <histo> adamcunnington: sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf and change add vm-swappiness=0
[23:13] <histo> or 1
[23:14] <adamcunnington> ki7mt: histo thanks
[23:14] <histo> adamcunnington: higher values increase the use of swap lower values decrease.
[23:14] <adamcunnington> i'm intruiged as to how the kernel knows what a 0 swap vs a 10swapiness implies
[23:15] <histo> adamcunnington: man proc
[23:15] <adamcunnington> is it like, i need 5% more memory but swap is too low, so i'll just lock for now. Oh wait, i need 20 more%, ill use swap
[23:15] <ki7mt> yeah, what he said ^^
[23:16] <wrongplace> how do I mount an iso file to be used with wine?
[23:16] <histo> adamcunnington: it doesn't work that way
[23:16] <adamcunnington> is it a bad idea to put a swap partition on an external HDD?
[23:17] <adamcunnington> (that is always connected) I use it like an internal HDD tbh
[23:17] <histo> adamcunnington: Don't do that. If you adjust swappiness it won't be used unless something goes seriously wrong.
[23:17] <histo> adamcunnington: just leave it out or make a swapfile if you don't want anothe rpartition for some reason.
[23:17] <wrongplace> can i "sudo mount" an iso copy?
[23:17] <wrongplace> and then run the app via wine?
[23:18] <ki7mt> wrongplace, see post #5: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=619250
[23:18] <histo> adamcunnington: http://rudd-o.com/linux-and-free-software/tales-from-responsivenessland-why-linux-feels-slow-and-how-to-fix-that  here's a good read
[23:18] <histo> wrongplace: yes you can mount -o loop /path/to/someiso /where/you/want/it
[23:18] <histo> !appdb | wrongplace
[23:19] <adamcunnington> histo: thanks
[23:21] <fridaynext> is this the right way to call a function within cron with a specified conf file? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wFB0pD46
[23:21] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, there's two sides to this, if you have plenty of RAM and your swaping to the HD, something else is an issue, on the other hand, allot of apps/functions expect swap to be present, omitting it creates an unknown / potential future issue. It doesn't hurt anything if it's not swapping, but it's its needed and not there, will be an issue.
[23:22] <fridaynext> specifically, the quotes around the conf location
[23:22] <histo> fridaynext: is there a way to call the command specifying the conf file
[23:22] <histo> fridaynext: then do the same thing in cron " and all
[23:22] <adamcunnington> ki7mt: thanks
[23:22] <fridaynext> 'sudo automysqlbackup /home/onyour6/onyour6_DB_backup.conf' does it
[23:22] <adamcunnington> cheers for your help everyonen
[23:22] <fridaynext> so no quotes then
[23:22] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, So for me, I lways create a swap, if' not needed, that's ok, if it is needed, I try to understand why, and fix that to whatever extent possible.
[23:23] <adamcunnington> final thing! With my dual boot plans, is there any easy way to ensure i can only access certain files from windows within ubuntu? i.e. i don't want to be accidentally deleting windows system files. I would create separate data partition within windows but not all windows application installation processes allow you to choose install location
[23:24] <histo> !swap | ki7mt
[23:25] <eeee> fridaynext: i dont think you can use sudo in the cron
[23:25] <histo> adamcunnington: you could just mount your windows user directory somewhere and not the whole drive.
[23:25] <eeee> i mean u'll have to manually enter the password
[23:25] <histo> eeee: fridaynext yeah sorry don't use sudo in cron.  just sudo crontab -e   to edit root's crontab
[23:26] <fridaynext> histo: yeah, that's what I ended up doing.
[23:26] <adamcunnington> histo: genius idea, thanks. Out of interest is there a way to do that by specifying a relative path with a UID?
[23:26] <adamcunnington> UUID*
[23:26] <fridaynext> I'll check tomorrow to see if it ran or not.
[23:26] <ki7mt> histo, I understand swap, i get it.
[23:27] <histo> adamcunnington: it's a bit trickier than that.  Basically the drive can be mounted then a bind mount of a directory accessible by your user.
[23:27] <adamcunnington> i.e. UUID=123123123123/user/Adam/ /media/windows8.1user/ ntfs 0 0
[23:27] <ki7mt> histo, But if something is swaping constantly, that's a performance issue.
[23:27] <histo> adamcunnington: let me find you a howto
[23:27] <histo> ki7mt: yes
[23:27] <adamcunnington> histo: great much appreciated
[23:29] <histo> adamcunnington: ahh the mount wiki page has examples. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount search for "bind" on that page
[23:29] <hyprvx> yo, are you still giving support?
[23:30] <histo> !who?
[23:30] <histo> !who | hyprvx
[23:30] <owen1> anyone with thinkpad carbon x1 2014? i would like to know if there are any issues with 14.04 before buying one.
[23:30] <owen1> i can't find anything insightful online.
[23:31] <adamcunnington> histo: oh awesome, so if I understand, I can just do sudo mount --bind /path/to/windows8.1/user/dir /home/ac/Windows Files
[23:31] <Beldar> owen1, Run the hardware.
[23:31] <hyprvx> sorry, got redirected to #ubuntu-unregged so thought this channel wasn't giving support, just wanted to ask, histo
[23:31] <histo> adamcunnington: yes assuming the windows partition is mounted elsewhere
[23:31] <hyprvx> anyways, I installed Xubuntu 14.04 and now I'm having Wi-Fi issues
[23:31] <owen1> Beldar: you tried with 14.04 and it sucks?
[23:32] <histo> hyprvx: what type of "issues"?
[23:32] <Beldar> owen1, Never had one and that's not the channel is for.
[23:32] <adamcunnington> histo: oh so i'd have to mount the whole partition? doesn't that defeat the point of stopping me accessing essential system files etc. guess i could mount it somewhere obscure
[23:32] <Beldar> what*
[23:32] <hyprvx> histo: it claims to have connected to my wireless network but I have no internet access... similar to the "Limited" connection in Windows
[23:32] <histo> adamcunnington: no mount it somehwere that user doesn't ahve access then create a bind mount that does in the user's home
[23:32] <owen1> Beldar: oh. i didn't understand what 'Run the hardware' means. is there a different irc chat for hardware?
[23:32] <Beldar> owen1, For fixing hardware yes.
[23:33] <adamcunnington> histo: where wouldn't the user have access to? (I'm not familiar off hand with user perms)
[23:33] <owen1> Beldar: sweet. what's the channel?
[23:33] <adamcunnington> i have access to /media/ right
[23:33] <Beldar> owen1, Look at the hardware on the computer and look on the web for problems.
[23:33] <owen1> Beldar: oh. ok
[23:34] <Beldar> owen1, askubuntu is a good site
[23:34] <owen1> cool. will try that
[23:34] <owen1> or post a question of ubuntforums.org
[23:35] <owen1> wow, uskubuntu looks cool. it's like stackoverflow
[23:35] <owen1> with no registration
[23:35] <Beldar> owen1, yeah the forums is good, but all answers are subjective and prone to any users experience, I would touch neither myself. ;)
[23:35] <Beldar> same here
[23:35] <adamcunnington> histo: a final final thing would be ... is there an easy way to give access to ubuntu files in windows?
[23:36] <catalase> how critical is it to use RSA key authentication
[23:37] <catalase> and does anyone here run cron jobs to restart their server on a daily basis? sometimes i lose ssh access, and i think it might be useful to run a cron job for restarting at least the SSH server daily
[23:39] <ki7mt> catalase, I use keys almost exclusively if that's any help. Restarting only if it's *not*  running may be useful, like:run cron script then if $? = 1 then kill it and restart it, but should probably find out why it's not running and fix that.
[23:43] <owen1> Beldar: that looks promising - www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201204-10913/  i am not sure if 2nd Gen is the recent one
[23:44] <Beldar> owen1, If that is the computer yes. In general any computer a year or older in release is probably not a problem, dual graphic setups have their own issues however.
[23:45] <Beldar> depends on your skills really
[23:45] <owen1> www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201204-10913/components/ is not matching shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon/
[23:46] <eam> I've been debugging a project which had trouble building on ubuntu. I've found the problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition
[23:46] <owen1> i got to find what generation are the current thinkpads
[23:46] <eam> the --as-needed modification to the linker is breaking things
[23:46] <eam> now, the doc says "don't just add --no-as-needed", but as best I can tell after reading through all the ubuntu source, that's all anyone ever does
[23:47] <Beldar> owen1, I would use this pages hardware info for issues. http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon/#techspecs
[23:47] <eam> and frankly, I don't see how this linking scheme could even work without  --no-as-needed
[23:47] <owen1> Beldar: good idea!
[23:47] <eam> anyone have any context? As this stands it looks like extremely broken advice/behavior on ubuntu's part
[23:48] <Beldar> eam, From a natty link? what release is this?
[23:48] <eam> 14.04 LTS
[23:48] <eam> this was changed some time ago
[23:48] <Beldar> eam, From a natty link? Is this your complaint?
[23:49] <eam> Beldar: sorry, what are you asking?
[23:49] <Beldar> eam> I've been debugging a project which had trouble building on ubuntu. I've found the problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition    Natty in the links header
[23:49] <eam> right
[23:49] <eam> that document describes the problematic toolchain change
[23:50] <Beldar> eam, Natty has been eol for a long time why would you even consider it?
[23:50] <eam> Beldar: who's considering it?
[23:50] <eam> I'm using trusty
[23:50] <eam> that document describes the toolchain change in ubuntu for natty and all subsequent releases
 I've been debugging a project which had trouble building on ubuntu. I've found the problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition  You are WAKE UP AS TO WHAT YOU POST
[23:51] <eam> it appears you don't understand
[23:51] <blun7> Has anyone tried installing cinnamon on 14.04 - has it exploded all the things or is it pretty safe?
[23:52] <Beldar> eam, last time the page was edited  (last edited 2011-05-24 17:14:42 by cjwatson)
[23:52] <eam> anyway, is anyone here familiar with this toolchain change? Because builds since this change seem to have simply implemented the "hack" the page recommends against
[23:52] <Beldar> blun7, Not in the ubuntu repos, so not supported.
[23:53] <eam> and while it's simple enough to do, it seems extremely broken both in terms of advice and behavior
[23:54] <Beldar> eam, THat link does not address anything past 2011-05-24 17:14:42
[23:54] <eam> Beldar: of course it does
[23:54] <Beldar> this is 2014, not 2011
[23:54] <eam> Beldar: have you looked at the linker lately?
[23:54] <eam> don't be ridiculous
[23:56] <eam> Beldar: if you don't understand what I'm asking that's fine
[23:57] <eam> anyway, I'll just go ahead and implement a hack-around for ubuntu systems in the exact manner the document says not to do -- since as best I can tell it's all ubuntu packages end up doing anyway
[23:58] <histo> eam: /j #ubuntu-dev
[23:59] <eam> histo: rad thx
[23:59] <histo> eam: or what ever the development channel is I believe it's dev or devs