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| rick_h_ | urulama_: howdy | 10:42 |
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| urulama_ | rick_h_: hi | 10:42 |
| rick_h_ | urulama_: pm | 10:43 |
| rick_h_ | welcome back luca! | 10:52 |
| luca | hey rick_h_, hows it going? | 11:48 |
| rick_h_ | luca: heh, I'll tell you in an hour? | 11:48 |
| luca | rick_h_: lol sure | 11:48 |
| * rick_h_ goes for coffee and breakfast now that first meeting is done wheee | 11:48 | |
| bac | rick_h_: i just entered leave into hr system | 11:53 |
| rogpeppe | rick_h_: one thing occurs to me: do we want clients of the store to be able to update individual files in charms/bundles? for, example, do we want them to be able to change a README independently of the rest of the files in a charm? | 12:00 |
| rick_h_ | rogpeppe: no, I don't think so. | 12:00 |
| rogpeppe | rick_h_: ok, that's cool | 12:00 |
| rick_h_ | rogpeppe: if you wanted to do something like that it'd fall under resources. | 12:00 |
| rick_h_ | a resource could be some single doc referenced, but a change to the base of a charm I think is a new charm version | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | bac: doh, I've got to catch up on that holiday update email. | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | bac: thanks, will approve here shortly. | 12:01 |
| luca | rick_h_: can you give me the link to your work items doc? | 12:03 |
| rick_h_ | luca: hmm, https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/14XvT-6RjHKjUhGJLuwMC1y7JCkUeuUv-XxjYsPtWhng/edit ? | 12:07 |
| luca | rick_h_: cheers | 12:07 |
| bac | rick_h_: i got the jenkins details from mgz and now need to get an account and credentials from curtis | 12:25 |
| bac | i think he starts a little later than us | 12:26 |
| rick_h_ | bac: rgr | 12:26 |
| rick_h_ | a morning person he is not :) | 12:26 |
| * rogpeppe lunches | 13:38 | |
| rick_h_ | jujugui make sure to welcome urulama and jrwren today. Will do face to face in the standup but if they hit you up with any questions/etc they're our new locals | 13:57 |
| bac | welcome urulama and jrwren | 13:58 |
| kadams54 | Hi jrwren and urulama! | 13:58 |
| urulama | hi all | 13:58 |
| rogpeppe | urulama, jrwren: yo! | 13:58 |
| urulama | ok. finished the traveling form. | 14:00 |
| urulama | so, hi all, glad to be part of juju :D | 14:00 |
| jrwren | yo. | 14:00 |
| hatch | rick_h_ hey with the new EOY dates should we delete the old entries in hr and create new ones? | 14:10 |
| hatch | and g'morning :) | 14:10 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: yea if you can try | 14:13 |
| hatch | ok here goes.... *puts on helmet* I'm going in | 14:14 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: I found they didn't collide for me | 14:14 |
| hatch | oh ok, maybe it'll be ok here too | 14:14 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: yea, for me I had to add one more day off from my holiday stash :( | 14:15 |
| hatch | yeah looks like I do too | 14:16 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: cool, yea so no surgery required | 14:17 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: did you get the leankit invite? | 14:35 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: you and urulama up for meeting in the standup hangout 10min before the call to get a board overview? | 14:35 |
| urulama | rick_h_: fine by me | 14:36 |
| rick_h_ | urulama: k, will ping in 15 and we'll meet early for a run down | 14:36 |
| jrwren | i can hangout anytime, I guess. I'm still trying to figure out all this account info stuff. | 14:37 |
| jrwren | i got distracted reading the wiki. does anyone use the voip stuff? | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: cool, take your time and let me know if you hit anything that's not clicking | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: most of us don't. The only main interaction is calling into the conf call system for large meetings | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: honestly, we use hangouts almost for everything until we hit the 15person limit | 14:38 |
| rick_h_ | that and irc | 14:38 |
| jrwren | the, i'll low prioritize that. | 14:38 |
| jrwren | *then | 14:38 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: if you can signup for leankit soonish that'd be great so I can get you access before the call | 14:39 |
| jrwren | ok | 14:40 |
| jrwren | hrm, google apps weirdness | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | yea, dualing accounts takes some getting used to | 14:42 |
| hatch | easy peasy!! | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: are you supposed to be lake-fronting it today? | 14:42 |
| hatch | rick_h_ yeah but it's bloody pouring! | 14:43 |
| jrwren | i did this 1mo ago when old job switched to google apps. was no problem with all chrome, but a little different because google is pointing to me LP account | 14:43 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: poor guy | 14:43 |
| hatch | rick_h_ yeah tough life... | 14:43 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, the 2fa fun | 14:43 |
| Makyo | jujugui callin 10 | 14:50 |
| Makyo | Buh. Coffee hasn't reached my fingers yet. | 14:50 |
| rick_h_ | urulama: jrwren https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/daily-standup | 14:50 |
| rick_h_ | or https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/daily-standup?authuser=1 if this is your second google account :) | 14:50 |
| bac | Makyo: thanks for the stickers. the many, many stickers. :) | 14:52 |
| Makyo | bac, Hah, glad they made it. Should keep you stocked up for a while. | 14:53 |
| bac | Makyo: yes, now i can juju-power my fridge, microwave, water heater, ... | 14:53 |
| Makyo | We already have internet-enabled fridges, it's only a matter of time. | 14:54 |
| kadams54 | juju add-unit fridge | 14:55 |
| kadams54 | er | 14:56 |
| kadams54 | juju add-unit -n100 fridge | 14:56 |
| kadams54 | web scale appliances | 14:56 |
| hatch | haha | 14:57 |
| kadams54 | AaaS - Appliances as a Service | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | jujugui call in 2 | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | Makyo: ^ | 15:00 |
| jrwren | i should have said in standup, I have to run out for 30min, brb | 15:16 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: rgr | 15:18 |
| rick_h_ | hey luca, how did the meeting go? | 15:26 |
| rick_h_ | actually, I'll ask in PM :) | 15:27 |
| bac | Makyo: it was inevitable: https://flic.kr/p/oa9D3B | 15:29 |
| Makyo | Hahaha! Fantastic! | 15:30 |
| rick_h_ | bac: awesome | 15:30 |
| * rick_h_ goes to find food before the next meeting | 15:30 | |
| hatch | bac haha nicw | 15:31 |
| jcsackett | hatch: are there any major tripping points for the dispatched service/unit detail views, or is that going to feel a lot like dispatching the local charm stuff? | 15:53 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: wanted to follow up more on your comments to Jeff and I about visual treatments/wireframes for deleting units and whatnot… | 15:53 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: it's actually one of the last TODOs in my code :-) | 15:53 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: sure thing in the visuals for inspector v3 there's some stuff in the inspector where removed units are moved into a grouping and there's a 'are you sure' step for removing the service, the last image in the group on the right | 15:54 |
| hatch | jcsackett it will be pretty easy | 15:55 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: https://drive.google.com/a/canonical.com/#folders/0B7XG_QBXNwY1cWQ4TmRmRXJBc0E | 15:55 |
| jcsackett | hatch: awesome. i'll start in on that then. | 15:55 |
| hatch | jcsackett the inspector dispatcher will need to instantiate the inspector with a 'select this unit' flag, then after it's instantiated it will need to open the dropdown, select the unit, etc etc | 15:56 |
| hatch | jcsackett so 'easy' but lots of work | 15:56 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: OK, taking a look… | 15:56 |
| hatch | jcsackett but you won't have to reinvent the wheel like you did with the local inspector stuff | 15:56 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: sure thing, let me know if you want to walk through it | 15:56 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: but honestly, I think they'll be follow up cards | 15:56 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: hah! yeah, that was going to be my next question. | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: so be aware, but I'd move forward with the 'backendish' cards now and we'll clean up the UX as a follow up | 15:57 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: Excellent, we're on the same page then. | 15:57 |
| * rick_h_ feels like a winner! | 15:57 | |
| hatch | jcsackett I'll probably be still online, so ping me if you have any q's | 15:58 |
| jcsackett | hatch: will do. | 15:59 |
| kadams54 | guihelp: looking for a review and a tiny bit of QA on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/412 (The first build failure has already been fixed, so… fingers crossed.) | 16:30 |
| kadams54 | Heading out for dr. appt. | 16:34 |
| rick_h_ | good luck kadams54 | 16:35 |
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| === urulama-food is now known as urulama | ||
| hatch | hey is ci down? | 18:07 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: seems so, /me looks | 18:08 |
| hatch | did MS decide to upgrade the instance? lol | 18:08 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, our other one is down as well :/ | 18:09 |
| rick_h_ | network issue? | 18:09 |
| hatch | posssssssssibly | 18:09 |
| * rick_h_ is checking dashboard | 18:09 | |
| rick_h_ | oh boy | 18:10 |
| rick_h_ | jujugui all our azure vms are gone, working with our account holder to figure out what's happened | 18:10 |
| rick_h_ | bac: can you please go to the dashboard and make sure we pull down our last backups of both? | 18:11 |
| bac | uh oh | 18:11 |
| rick_h_ | bac: and look at setting up a shared account info for bringing up a new CI under ec2 (ssh key, etc) and I'll setup some credentials in a few minutes | 18:11 |
| bac | rick_h_: are you asking me to recreate our jenkins on ec2? | 18:13 |
| rick_h_ | bac: to get ready to | 18:13 |
| rick_h_ | bac: get the backups in place, generate a shared ssh key, whatever else we need to setup a shared env correctly | 18:13 |
| bac | rt | 18:13 |
| rick_h_ | bac: because if this doesn't move forward very fast with MS then we'll bring it up and recreate it | 18:14 |
| jrwren | does it run on US West? | 18:14 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: was east I believe | 18:15 |
| rick_h_ | but the mvs are just gone, the storage buckets are still there though | 18:15 |
| hatch | heh that's no good | 18:17 |
| hatch | anything I can help with? | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: no, not unless you know where azure would log "by the way all your machines belong to us" messages | 18:18 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 18:18 |
| hatch | lol no sorry - is there an access log? Maybe one of us accidentally clicked 'delete all!!!!!!' | 18:18 |
| jrwren | maybe I'm following the scavenger hunt incorrectly and I killed it :) | 18:18 |
| hatch | uh oh , the tweens woke up are taking selfies....my internet just slowed to a crawl | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | http://uploads.mitechie.com/lp/azure-ci.png :( | 18:21 |
| hatch | what the heck.... | 18:22 |
| bac | rick_h_: i see we have backups as of 6/29 20:00Z (us) and 6/26 (blues) | 18:25 |
| rick_h_ | :( | 18:25 |
| rick_h_ | jujugui CI is down and out. We've identified the issue and bac is recreating the environment. | 18:56 |
| rick_h_ | jujugui so all code landings will have to wait until it's back up. Sorry for the delay if bac needs a hand please jump and help him. | 18:56 |
| kadams54 | Sorry, I may have missed something while I was away… is it just me, or is CI down? | 19:53 |
| jrwren | 14:56 rick_h_| jujugui CI is down and out. We've identified the issue and bac is recreating the environment. | 19:55 |
| jrwren | 14:56 rick_h_| jujugui so all code landings will have to wait until it's back up. Sorry for the delay if bac needs a hand please jump and help him. | 19:55 |
| kadams54 | Ah thanks jrwren! | 19:56 |
| bac | jujugui: i'm having trouble getting azure to bootstrap. if this latest attempt fails i'm moving to ec2. | 19:56 |
| kadams54 | bac: OK, thanks for the update. | 19:56 |
| rick_h_ | bac: rgr thanks for trying | 20:00 |
| bac | ha, must've scared azure. next try came right up. | 20:01 |
| bac | rick_h_, jcsackett: what were the two jenkins instance called? jenkins and jenkins-the-blues? | 20:02 |
| bac | rick_h_: who controls the dns entry? | 20:02 |
| rick_h_ | bac: I do, let me know what cname to point to | 20:08 |
| rick_h_ | bac: that works. | 20:12 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_, hatch: I've got my choice of services, containers, or machines on these delete cards. Any recommendations about what to tackle next? | 20:49 |
| hatch | well machine and container are one and the same | 20:49 |
| hatch | I suppose there are some nuances, but I'm not sure one can be done without the other | 20:51 |
| hatch | kadams54 so machines/containers will also have some cascading tasks which need to be done | 21:04 |
| hatch | like removing placeUnits onto a ghost machine | 21:05 |
| kadams54 | hatch: sounds to me like you're voting for services :-) | 21:05 |
| hatch | nah that will also have cascading tasks. | 21:06 |
| hatch | remove relation | 21:06 |
| hatch | remove addUnits | 21:06 |
| hatch | remove setConfigs | 21:06 |
| hatch | heh | 21:06 |
| hatch | kadams54 so probably doing remove containers/machines will be the best place to start | 21:08 |
| hatch | it'll have the least 'extras' I think | 21:08 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: the other thing is to take a break and go look at the upgrade service UX and such as well | 21:08 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: I'm not seeing any cards for the upgrade service UX… do they need to be created? | 21:12 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: hmm, /me looks thoght it was there | 21:12 |
| hatch | jcsackett how goes the inspector unit stuff? | 21:12 |
| rick_h_ | Makyo: can help get you some direction | 21:12 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: oh, huw got it in progress | 21:13 |
| jcsackett | hatch: alright; my lxc was fubared for a chunk of the day, so i haven't gotten as far as i would like. | 21:13 |
| hatch | ahh, do you dev in a lxc ? | 21:14 |
| jcsackett | hatch: i do. don't like to install lots of crap on the main machine, and don't care for VMs. | 21:14 |
| jcsackett | mind you, apparently LXCs have their own flaws. :p | 21:14 |
| hatch | haha, interesting, I never thought of that, I also have an issue with install bloat after a year of working on stuff | 21:15 |
| hatch | lxc's would sure help that | 21:15 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: looks like there's another UX-ish card for adding uncommitted cues to service view/blocks | 21:15 |
| jcsackett | hatch: it also has the benefit of meaning i'm always developing on a system that's at least the same ubuntu release as our production instance. | 21:16 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: sure, that'll get you into some fun stuff | 21:16 |
| hatch | jcsackett yeah good call - I'm really trying to get Ubuntu to run properly on this hardware, it's not going so well, the dual gpu is really a gong show | 21:17 |
| hatch | rick_h_ how id the new laptop? have 14.04 on it yet? | 21:17 |
| jcsackett | hatch: what are you using? | 21:18 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: yea, 14.04 on it, got the touchpad going a bit better | 21:19 |
| rick_h_ | but it's a mix bag | 21:19 |
| hatch | jcsackett OSX with a vm | 21:19 |
| hatch | jcsackett I'd like to work with someone to get the drivers are fixed up but I'm guessing whoever is writing it would need the machine for quite a while | 21:22 |
| bac | jujugui: trying to install dependencies on CI machine following HACKING guide. calls for python-selenium but one is not found. anyone know where it comes from in precise | 22:22 |
| Makyo | jujugui review/qa for destroy service in ECS https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/413 (also, just found some coyote kill in the yard, going to be afk while I get that taken care of) | 22:51 |
| huwshimi | Morning | 23:04 |
| rick_h__ | morning huwshimi | 23:04 |
| huwshimi | rick_h__: hey | 23:04 |
| rick_h__ | huwshimi: heads up, CI went boom today and we're recovering still | 23:04 |
| rick_h__ | huwshimi: so no landing/test runs for the moment. | 23:05 |
| huwshimi | yay! | 23:05 |
| rick_h__ | heh, like a snow day? | 23:05 |
| huwshimi | :) | 23:07 |
| rick_h__ | huwshimi: do you have anything to merge? | 23:14 |
| huwshimi | rick_h__: Not yet. Probably today sometime though. | 23:14 |
| rick_h__ | huwshimi: ok cool | 23:15 |
| hatch | Makyo i'm reviewing your branch, fyi | 23:40 |
| Makyo | Thanks | 23:40 |
| hatch | Makyo looks good - looks like the approach we discussed worked well | 23:54 |
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