| xnox | darkxst: huh, autopilot totally can use either qt4, qt5 or gtk3 | 00:13 |
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| xnox | darkxst: and it is used by ubiquity to test gtk3 frontend. | 00:13 |
| darkxst | xnox, I meant autopilot can't be used to test gnome-shell | 02:38 |
| TheMuso` | You would have to write a cluttr autopilot backend. | 02:43 |
| darkxst | TheMuso`, yes I am aware, never got around to looking at that. or I guess that other option would be to use atk/at-spi for testing | 06:09 |
| TheMuso` | darkxst: That is certainly an option, but I know that is likely to raise issues already, given there are still parts of GNOME shell that need a11y work. | 06:12 |
| darkxst | TheMuso`, well don't really need to test every single feature, would just be nice to have a general smoke test, since we seem to get completely broken by other changes 2-3 times per cycle | 06:14 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:15 |
| darkxst | hey pitti | 06:15 |
| pitti | hey darkxst, how are you? | 06:15 |
| darkxst | good, still raining here though :( | 06:15 |
| TheMuso` | darkxst: Fair enough. | 06:17 |
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| darkxst | pitti, do you have a systemd update by anychance? | 06:56 |
| pitti | darkxst: what kind of update? | 06:56 |
| darkxst | like a 210+ package? | 06:56 |
| pitti | darkxst: I have a 208 package | 06:56 |
| pitti | but not tested it much, as it's still stuck on making 205+ compatible with systemd-shim and upstart | 06:57 |
| pitti | i. e. translate the slice generation into cgmanager calls | 06:57 |
| darkxst | pitti, source available somewhere? | 06:59 |
| pitti | darkxst: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/systemd_208-2pitti1.dsc | 07:01 |
| pitti | darkxst: that has most Ubuntu changes merged, it's just already a few weeks old | 07:01 |
| darkxst | pitti, thanks | 07:03 |
| * darkxst will now go try and break my system ;) | 07:07 | |
| pitti | hehe | 07:10 |
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| Laney | goood morning | 08:05 |
| darkxst | hey Laney | 08:06 |
| Laney | yo darkxst | 08:07 |
| darkxst | Laney, can you sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/libgweather/3.12.2 | 08:09 |
| Noskcaj | please | 08:09 |
| Laney | if that's a merge then the version is wrong | 08:10 |
| Laney | shouldn't be 0ubuntu1 | 08:10 |
| Laney | and yes, sure, see #ubuntu-devel in 5 seconds: | 08:10 |
| Laney | oh I see debian only has .1 | 08:10 |
| Laney | want to update it there first? | 08:11 |
| Noskcaj | Laney, I'd rather not wait 6 months for it to be uploaded. pkg-gnome rarely sponsors stuff | 08:11 |
| Laney | what about pkg-laney | 08:12 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, pkg-laney should be quicker than pkg-gnome! | 08:14 |
| Noskcaj | I'll go and put it in pkg-gnome now | 08:15 |
| Laney | anyway I'll not get distracted by doing that update just yet | 08:15 |
| Laney | but if you put it in there sure | 08:15 |
| Laney | first I need to restart my vps to get the moar rams that I bought over the weekend | 08:15 |
| Laney | brb | 08:15 |
| Noskcaj | now = after i download all of pkg-gnome svn | 08:18 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, right, maybe I will join pkg-gnome, after they switch to git ;) | 08:20 |
| Laney | good, that worked | 08:24 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, You can take my place then. git is such a pain | 08:28 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, why? git is good! | 08:32 |
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| * darkxst suggests Noskcaj should spend the school holidays learning git and C ;) | 08:41 | |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, I probably should. | 08:46 |
| Noskcaj | I'd started trying to learn vala, but it lack any docs | 08:48 |
| Noskcaj | I'll look into C i guess, i'd came along the idea of merging back all of ubuntu's changes to pkg-gnome, but it seems like too much work to bother | 08:51 |
| Laney | I usually just take stuff across when I'm updating for some other reason | 08:51 |
| Laney | e.g. if you're doing libgweather now, take whatever you can | 08:51 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, vala is more or less c#, but nicely integrated with gtk | 08:57 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, start with C, once you get that you will more or less be able understand what is going on in other other languages | 08:59 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 08:59 |
| darkxst | well except for python | 09:00 |
| Noskcaj | I'll start learning C tomorrow. (need dota + sleep tonight) | 09:00 |
| darkxst | dota? did valve buy you out? | 09:23 |
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| darkxst | Laney, guess you are busy piloting but can you test of my displayconfig thing again after? | 10:02 |
| Laney | darkxst: yeah hoping to get to that again today | 10:02 |
| Laney | did you update the u-* branches? | 10:03 |
| darkxst | Laney, only on the ppa, | 10:03 |
| Laney | also should I try 3.10 or 3.12? | 10:03 |
| Laney | oh if it's all there, nice | 10:03 |
| darkxst | Laney, 3.12 is fine apart from https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/unity-settings-daemon/xkb/+merge/224919 | 10:04 |
| darkxst | Laney, ppa:darkxst/gnome-desktop | 10:05 |
| Laney | new branch> bzr push --overwrite the original one I think | 10:05 |
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| darkxst | Laney, probaly, why I dislike bzr! | 10:06 |
| Laney | you'd have to force push with git too, no? | 10:07 |
| darkxst | Laney, git thinks rewriting public history is a bad idea! | 10:08 |
| Laney | same here, that's why you have to give a flag | 10:08 |
| Laney | but it's alright to do this in your working branches until they're merged in | 10:08 |
| Laney | IMO | 10:08 |
| darkxst | Laney, sure, and rebasing patch sets under git is much better in git, than bzr IMO | 10:10 |
| Laney | yes, rebasing is one area in which git wins | 10:10 |
| Laney | I'm just suggesting for this merge request that a force push is appropriate. :) | 10:10 |
| larsu | ya, git allows this as well "push -f", but servers can be configured to refuse force pushes (gnome's does for example) | 10:10 |
| larsu | you can still get around that of course | 10:11 |
| larsu | and I agree with Laney, it's totally fine for feature branches | 10:11 |
| Laney | hey larsu! | 10:12 |
| larsu | hi Laney :) | 10:13 |
| larsu | how was your weekend? | 10:13 |
| Laney | very nice thank you | 10:13 |
| darkxst | Laney, ther you go, fixed | 10:14 |
| Laney | went up north to visit parents - record shop (& discovered it was stockton-on-tees pirate day when there were pirates singing sea shanties in store), walks on the beach and up on some hills | 10:14 |
| darkxst | now if you can fix our weather down south, I will be forever grateful ; | 10:15 |
| larsu | Laney: sounds great! | 10:15 |
| Laney | hey, you've got to let us have our turn with the sun for a bit | 10:15 |
| Laney | it's only fair! | 10:15 |
| Laney | larsu: how was yours? | 10:15 |
| larsu | relaxing :) | 10:16 |
| larsu | went to a party with dholbach, walked around an art festival in the city | 10:16 |
| larsu | and hung out in a park by the river | 10:16 |
| Laney | dholbach, party, relaxing | 10:17 |
| Laney | does not compute | 10:17 |
| larsu | the party wasn't that relaxing (but a lot of fun) | 10:17 |
| Laney | at least in my mental image of these parties :P | 10:17 |
| Laney | aw man he's not in here to be trolled | 10:17 |
| larsu | I think he gave up on this channel a while ago :( | 10:18 |
| Laney | also I've been reading too many blogs about living cities | 10:20 |
| Laney | kept noticing and being annoyed about the massive roads leading right into city centres and shitty pedestrian facilities | 10:20 |
| larsu | totally agree | 10:21 |
| larsu | I'm vaguely hopeful that car sharing / driverless cars will fix this to an extent | 10:21 |
| darkxst | Laney, then build some single track for you and your bike ;) | 10:22 |
| Laney | that'd be nice | 10:22 |
| Laney | currently if there would be any amount of design required then the lane just gives up and dumps you in the road | 10:22 |
| Laney | http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/08/do-you-hate-humans-take-it-out-on-them-through-design/ | 10:23 |
| darkxst | Laney, we recently got 'copenhagen' lanes for bikes in the city | 10:23 |
| darkxst | end results car-dooring | 10:24 |
| Laney | HAHA yes | 10:24 |
| Laney | "go dutch" is a slogan here | 10:25 |
| Laney | I think any Dutch person would be insulted by what's done under that banner | 10:25 |
| darkxst | Laney, I don't think there are too many dutch here to get offended! | 10:26 |
| Laney | :P | 10:26 |
| darkxst | qould be a few though | 10:26 |
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| lool | bregma: is there a bug for the scaling settings computation race? | 12:05 |
| lool | bregma: or is there a workaround? | 12:05 |
| bregma | lool, I'm fairly certain there's a bug, I'll have to search to find it right now though | 12:06 |
| bregma | I will peg Trevinho for the workaround and put it on the wiki somewhere in the mean time | 12:06 |
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| bregma | there are some gsettings that you can tweak manually to reset the scaling, I just don't remember them off the top of my head | 12:07 |
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| desrt | good morning, freedom lovers! | 12:57 |
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| gatox | lool, ping | 13:25 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Isn't there always something with the license. ;) Explanation added to bug 1314402. | 13:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1314402 in Ubuntu "Please upload skype-translation to the archive" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314402 | 13:34 |
| lool | gatox: pong | 13:34 |
| gatox | lool, hi, i don't know if you are the right person to ping... but i know sergiusens was working on getting the payui click into the image, the click is already in the store... but i see the click is not in the image yet... do you know who could take care of that | 13:36 |
| gatox | ? | 13:36 |
| lool | gatox: hmm sergiusens was adding clicks to the image in the past; I have to remember where the list is | 13:45 |
| lool | gatox: I think we used to go through http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/click_packages/click_list | 13:45 |
| lool | gatox: albeit I'm not sure the full list is installed; it might just be an index | 13:45 |
| lool | gatox: this might have to go through livecd-rootfs, not sure | 13:46 |
| lool | gatox: livecd-rootfs/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/60-install-click.chroot could be what you are looking for? | 13:47 |
| lool | gatox: so yeah, apparently click_list is the way to go | 13:48 |
| lool | gatox: this is probably a cjwatson thing to get it listed there, or others in ~ubuntu-archive | 13:48 |
| gatox | lool, ok... pinging him | 13:49 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: It's what makes this stuff fun. :) | 13:53 |
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| * desrt loves this: http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2014/06/rainbow-graces-toronto-sky-to-end-world-pride.html | 14:20 | |
| seb128 | nice rainbows there ;-) | 14:22 |
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| * ogra_ always wondered if there are pots full of gold on both ends or only on one | 14:24 | |
| GunnarHj | happyaron: ping? | 14:29 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, he's probably off at this hour, maybe best to ask your question so he can reply late | 14:31 |
| seb128 | r | 14:31 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok, thanks. I already subscribed him to a bug, so I'll wait then. | 14:32 |
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| pitti | jibel, seb128, vila: bonne chance avec le joue français à plus tard ! | 15:29 |
| pitti | je vais le voir aussi :) | 15:29 |
| jibel | pitti, thanks, good luck against Algeria! | 15:32 |
| vila | pitti: good luck to your team too ! | 15:32 |
| pitti | et le jeu d'Allemagne, bien sûr -- c'est une nuit longue :) | 15:32 |
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| Laney | hmm | 16:08 |
| Laney | the reason that g_desktop_app_info_new_from_filename is failing is because the Exec lines are referencing executables that can't be found | 16:08 |
| Laney | relative paths to binaries in private click package directories | 16:09 |
| desrt | Laney: there's no such thing as relative paths in desktop files... | 16:14 |
| desrt | although it's been discussed... | 16:15 |
| Laney | says who? | 16:15 |
| desrt | says the fact that it's not in the spec and not supported by the implementations | 16:15 |
| Laney | what's a spec? :) | 16:15 |
| desrt | and what's an implementation, too, i suppose :) | 16:16 |
| Laney | I think these things actually get launched by this ubuntu app launch wotsit | 16:16 |
| Laney | who knows what that does | 16:16 |
| desrt | something with urls, i think | 16:17 |
| desrt | :) | 16:17 |
| * desrt revives prefers_app_menu() patch | 16:18 | |
| Laney | maybe I should just treat these as key files... | 16:18 |
| desrt | or write to xdg list about getting the spec changed | 16:18 |
| desrt | i know approximately three people who would probably agree with you | 16:18 |
| desrt | two of them because they're in this channel and one of them because he requested the same thing | 16:19 |
| desrt | i'd be happy to land the changes in gio this week if we amend the spec | 16:19 |
| Laney | hang on | 16:20 |
| Laney | there appears to be a per-click libdir or something | 16:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks ;-) | 16:20 |
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| Laney | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7727128/ | 16:21 |
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| Laney | wtf | 17:18 |
| Laney | I launch glade and get asked to take a "user survey" | 17:19 |
| Laney | is this a joke? | 17:19 |
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| Laney | on that note, ttyl! | 17:24 |
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| robert_ancell | darkxst, did you mean to do a MP for lp:~darkxst/unity-settings-daemon/xkb2? | 20:51 |
| robert_ancell | btw, I think you could have done a bzr push --overwrite on the existing branch too | 20:52 |
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| darkxst | robert_ancell_, yes I ended up overwriting the existing branch | 23:11 |
| robert_ancell_ | darkxst, cool, thanks | 23:12 |
| robert_ancell_ | It's kind of worrying how Launchpad doesn't tell you if approved MPs have their branches overwritten :) | 23:12 |
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