[00:13] darkxst: huh, autopilot totally can use either qt4, qt5 or gtk3 [00:13] darkxst: and it is used by ubiquity to test gtk3 frontend. [02:38] xnox, I meant autopilot can't be used to test gnome-shell [02:43] You would have to write a cluttr autopilot backend. [06:09] TheMuso`, yes I am aware, never got around to looking at that. or I guess that other option would be to use atk/at-spi for testing [06:12] darkxst: That is certainly an option, but I know that is likely to raise issues already, given there are still parts of GNOME shell that need a11y work. [06:14] TheMuso`, well don't really need to test every single feature, would just be nice to have a general smoke test, since we seem to get completely broken by other changes 2-3 times per cycle [06:15] Good morning [06:15] hey pitti [06:15] hey darkxst, how are you? [06:15] good, still raining here though :( [06:17] darkxst: Fair enough. === egon_ is now known as mvo [06:56] pitti, do you have a systemd update by anychance? [06:56] darkxst: what kind of update? [06:56] like a 210+ package? [06:56] darkxst: I have a 208 package [06:57] but not tested it much, as it's still stuck on making 205+ compatible with systemd-shim and upstart [06:57] i. e. translate the slice generation into cgmanager calls [06:59] pitti, source available somewhere? [07:01] darkxst: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/systemd_208-2pitti1.dsc [07:01] darkxst: that has most Ubuntu changes merged, it's just already a few weeks old [07:03] pitti, thanks [07:07] * darkxst will now go try and break my system ;) [07:10] hehe === dbarth is now known as dbarth-afk [08:05] goood morning [08:06] hey Laney [08:07] yo darkxst [08:09] Laney, can you sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/libgweather/3.12.2 [08:09] please [08:10] if that's a merge then the version is wrong [08:10] shouldn't be 0ubuntu1 [08:10] and yes, sure, see #ubuntu-devel in 5 seconds: [08:10] oh I see debian only has .1 [08:11] want to update it there first? [08:11] Laney, I'd rather not wait 6 months for it to be uploaded. pkg-gnome rarely sponsors stuff [08:12] what about pkg-laney [08:14] Noskcaj, pkg-laney should be quicker than pkg-gnome! [08:15] I'll go and put it in pkg-gnome now [08:15] anyway I'll not get distracted by doing that update just yet [08:15] but if you put it in there sure [08:15] first I need to restart my vps to get the moar rams that I bought over the weekend [08:15] brb [08:18] now = after i download all of pkg-gnome svn [08:20] Noskcaj, right, maybe I will join pkg-gnome, after they switch to git ;) [08:24] good, that worked [08:28] darkxst, You can take my place then. git is such a pain [08:32] Noskcaj, why? git is good! === bigon_ is now known as bigon [08:41] * darkxst suggests Noskcaj should spend the school holidays learning git and C ;) [08:46] darkxst, I probably should. [08:48] I'd started trying to learn vala, but it lack any docs [08:51] I'll look into C i guess, i'd came along the idea of merging back all of ubuntu's changes to pkg-gnome, but it seems like too much work to bother [08:51] I usually just take stuff across when I'm updating for some other reason [08:51] e.g. if you're doing libgweather now, take whatever you can [08:57] Noskcaj, vala is more or less c#, but nicely integrated with gtk [08:59] Noskcaj, start with C, once you get that you will more or less be able understand what is going on in other other languages [08:59] ok [09:00] well except for python [09:00] I'll start learning C tomorrow. (need dota + sleep tonight) [09:23] dota? did valve buy you out? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 [10:02] Laney, guess you are busy piloting but can you test of my displayconfig thing again after? [10:02] darkxst: yeah hoping to get to that again today [10:03] did you update the u-* branches? [10:03] Laney, only on the ppa, [10:03] also should I try 3.10 or 3.12? [10:03] oh if it's all there, nice [10:04] Laney, 3.12 is fine apart from https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/unity-settings-daemon/xkb/+merge/224919 [10:05] Laney, ppa:darkxst/gnome-desktop [10:05] new branch> bzr push --overwrite the original one I think === lool- is now known as lool [10:06] Laney, probaly, why I dislike bzr! [10:07] you'd have to force push with git too, no? [10:08] Laney, git thinks rewriting public history is a bad idea! [10:08] same here, that's why you have to give a flag [10:08] but it's alright to do this in your working branches until they're merged in [10:08] IMO [10:10] Laney, sure, and rebasing patch sets under git is much better in git, than bzr IMO [10:10] yes, rebasing is one area in which git wins [10:10] I'm just suggesting for this merge request that a force push is appropriate. :) [10:10] ya, git allows this as well "push -f", but servers can be configured to refuse force pushes (gnome's does for example) [10:11] you can still get around that of course [10:11] and I agree with Laney, it's totally fine for feature branches [10:12] hey larsu! [10:13] hi Laney :) [10:13] how was your weekend? [10:13] very nice thank you [10:14] Laney, ther you go, fixed [10:14] went up north to visit parents - record shop (& discovered it was stockton-on-tees pirate day when there were pirates singing sea shanties in store), walks on the beach and up on some hills [10:15] now if you can fix our weather down south, I will be forever grateful ; [10:15] Laney: sounds great! [10:15] hey, you've got to let us have our turn with the sun for a bit [10:15] it's only fair! [10:15] larsu: how was yours? [10:16] relaxing :) [10:16] went to a party with dholbach, walked around an art festival in the city [10:16] and hung out in a park by the river [10:17] dholbach, party, relaxing [10:17] does not compute [10:17] the party wasn't that relaxing (but a lot of fun) [10:17] at least in my mental image of these parties :P [10:17] aw man he's not in here to be trolled [10:18] I think he gave up on this channel a while ago :( [10:20] also I've been reading too many blogs about living cities [10:20] kept noticing and being annoyed about the massive roads leading right into city centres and shitty pedestrian facilities [10:21] totally agree [10:21] I'm vaguely hopeful that car sharing / driverless cars will fix this to an extent [10:22] Laney, then build some single track for you and your bike ;) [10:22] that'd be nice [10:22] currently if there would be any amount of design required then the lane just gives up and dumps you in the road [10:23] http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/08/do-you-hate-humans-take-it-out-on-them-through-design/ [10:23] Laney, we recently got 'copenhagen' lanes for bikes in the city [10:24] end results car-dooring [10:24] HAHA yes [10:25] "go dutch" is a slogan here [10:25] I think any Dutch person would be insulted by what's done under that banner [10:26] Laney, I don't think there are too many dutch here to get offended! [10:26] :P [10:26] qould be a few though === gatox_ultra is now known as gatox === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:05] bregma: is there a bug for the scaling settings computation race? [12:05] bregma: or is there a workaround? [12:06] lool, I'm fairly certain there's a bug, I'll have to search to find it right now though [12:06] I will peg Trevinho for the workaround and put it on the wiki somewhere in the mean time === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:07] there are some gsettings that you can tweak manually to reset the scaling, I just don't remember them off the top of my head === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:57] good morning, freedom lovers! === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:25] lool, ping [13:34] Laney: Isn't there always something with the license. ;) Explanation added to bug 1314402. [13:34] bug 1314402 in Ubuntu "Please upload skype-translation to the archive" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314402 [13:34] gatox: pong [13:36] lool, hi, i don't know if you are the right person to ping... but i know sergiusens was working on getting the payui click into the image, the click is already in the store... but i see the click is not in the image yet... do you know who could take care of that [13:36] ? [13:45] gatox: hmm sergiusens was adding clicks to the image in the past; I have to remember where the list is [13:45] gatox: I think we used to go through http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/click_packages/click_list [13:45] gatox: albeit I'm not sure the full list is installed; it might just be an index [13:46] gatox: this might have to go through livecd-rootfs, not sure [13:47] gatox: livecd-rootfs/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/60-install-click.chroot could be what you are looking for? [13:48] gatox: so yeah, apparently click_list is the way to go [13:48] gatox: this is probably a cjwatson thing to get it listed there, or others in ~ubuntu-archive [13:49] lool, ok... pinging him [13:53] GunnarHj: It's what makes this stuff fun. :) === mjohnson15 is now known as mjohnson151 === mjohnson151 is now known as mjohnson15 [14:20] * desrt loves this: http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2014/06/rainbow-graces-toronto-sky-to-end-world-pride.html [14:22] nice rainbows there ;-) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:24] * ogra_ always wondered if there are pots full of gold on both ends or only on one [14:29] happyaron: ping? [14:31] GunnarHj, he's probably off at this hour, maybe best to ask your question so he can reply late [14:31] r [14:32] seb128: Ok, thanks. I already subscribed him to a bug, so I'll wait then. === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [15:29] jibel, seb128, vila: bonne chance avec le joue français à plus tard ! [15:29] je vais le voir aussi :) [15:32] pitti, thanks, good luck against Algeria! [15:32] pitti: good luck to your team too ! [15:32] et le jeu d'Allemagne, bien sûr -- c'est une nuit longue :) === chiluk` is now known as chiluk [16:08] hmm [16:08] the reason that g_desktop_app_info_new_from_filename is failing is because the Exec lines are referencing executables that can't be found [16:09] relative paths to binaries in private click package directories [16:14] Laney: there's no such thing as relative paths in desktop files... [16:15] although it's been discussed... [16:15] says who? [16:15] says the fact that it's not in the spec and not supported by the implementations [16:15] what's a spec? :) [16:16] and what's an implementation, too, i suppose :) [16:16] I think these things actually get launched by this ubuntu app launch wotsit [16:16] who knows what that does [16:17] something with urls, i think [16:17] :) [16:18] * desrt revives prefers_app_menu() patch [16:18] maybe I should just treat these as key files... [16:18] or write to xdg list about getting the spec changed [16:18] i know approximately three people who would probably agree with you [16:19] two of them because they're in this channel and one of them because he requested the same thing [16:19] i'd be happy to land the changes in gio this week if we amend the spec [16:20] hang on [16:20] there appears to be a per-click libdir or something [16:20] pitti, thanks ;-) === om26er is now known as om26er|away [16:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7727128/ === eeejay` is now known as eeejay === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch === om26er|away is now known as om26er === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:18] wtf [17:19] I launch glade and get asked to take a "user survey" [17:19] is this a joke? === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:24] on that note, ttyl! === dpm is now known as dpm-afk === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [20:51] darkxst, did you mean to do a MP for lp:~darkxst/unity-settings-daemon/xkb2? [20:52] btw, I think you could have done a bzr push --overwrite on the existing branch too === bdrung_ is now known as bdrung === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [23:11] robert_ancell_, yes I ended up overwriting the existing branch [23:12] darkxst, cool, thanks [23:12] It's kind of worrying how Launchpad doesn't tell you if approved MPs have their branches overwritten :) === robert_ancell_ is now known as robert_ancell