[00:34] ahoneybun, Did you package aisleriot for ubuntu or just for the ppa? [00:34] I though you and tim were talking about it a few weeks ago [00:35] Noskcaj, tbh I never got to it as I did not want to really bother tim with question after question [00:35] Feel free to ask me if you need help with packaging [00:36] www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ is also a good place for answers [00:36] it is just I was asking questions that tim helped me with already [00:38] darkxst, how do I renew my membership to the packaging team? [00:40] Noskcaj, it seems a lot of people use different ways of packaging [00:41] Yeah. many different build systems and VCSes can make things confusing [00:43] Noskcaj, would you take me though your process of packaging > [00:44] seems I have no mouse icon on the screen now [00:44] I assume you mean merges, both from debian and upstream [00:44] And having a mouse is usually good ;) [00:44] um maybe [00:45] ok so my mousepad does not work now [00:47] To "package" things, you have a debian/ folder which contains copyright info, what depends the package has, what patches it needs, and instruction for a machine to build the package [00:48] yea [00:49] The instructions we use nowdays are either debhelper (lots of text, advised against), cdbs (few commands, but i find it confusing, and what gnome often uses), and dh (short debhelper, often only a three line file) [00:50] And patches can be either quilt (good), dpatch (bad), or manually done (bad and rare-ish) [00:51] ok back [01:00] ahoneybun, And patches can be either quilt (good), dpatch (bad), or manually done (bad and rare-ish) [01:01] We'll work on merging the new upstream release of clutter-gst-2.0 , so i've got something i can walk you through [01:02] I found it at http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org , where all gnome packages in debian are, and saw our version was not the current one [01:03] First, run bzr branch lp:ubuntu/clutter-gst-2.0 to get the source as it is in ubuntu [01:05] k den [01:58] darkxst, Do you get australian cities in the wrong place in ubiquity? [01:59] Sydney's marker points to canberra for me === swiss_ is now known as swiss [05:24] Noskcaj, thats an old old bug [05:31] Noskcaj, there was https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702194, which would help a lot rather than various apps using various forks of the timezone map! [05:31] Gnome bug 702194 in Date and Time "make timezonemap a system library" [Major,Unconfirmed] [06:27] darkxst, i'm pretty sure i'd seen an ubuntu bug for it too. thanks for the link [06:28] Noskcaj, yes there is an ubuntu bug too somewhere, but that is the root cause, the same code has been cut+paste into numerous locations with different changes in each location [06:28] ok [06:28] ubiquity forked the code from gnome-control-center [06:29] then indicator-datetime forked the code from ubiquity [06:29] its just a complete mess [07:28] darkxst, Do you know if we're swapping to systemd this cycle? kde seem to need if for upower 0.99 [07:30] Noskcaj, unlikely Ubuntu will, we might if it works well [07:30] ok [07:30] Phillip's comments don't seem to make sense though [07:30] device management is pretty independent of systemd [07:32] * darkxst wonders if there is some unported code floating around in kde [07:51] darkxst, do we want metacity 3.12? [07:52] Noskcaj, we don't use that, but edubuntu guys might so check with mitya57 or alberts [07:52] ok [07:52] it seems to be seeded in all flavours [07:53] Noskcaj, its kinda a fail-over backup [07:53] for when compositing doesnt work [07:53] ok [07:53] gnome-flashback however uses it as the default WM === prth is now known as prth|away === robert_ancell_ is now known as robert_ancell