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MooDoomorning all05:42
mappsmorning MooDoo05:42
michiel81Hello, i was wondering if anyone has any experience with 14.04 and touch controllers?05:48
mappsnot me sorry05:55
michiel81Hehe, story of my life, been fidling about with it for the last 4 days. Did get it to register touch but can't calibrate it.06:00
Myrttimorning06:08
nigelb*sniff*06:10
nigelbmroning06:10
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Meteor Watch Day! :-D08:16
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DJonesmorning JamesTait, I'll watch bruce willis have an eventful day in armageddon then08:17
JamesTaitWorks for me, DJones. :)08:18
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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:31
diploMorning all08:32
diploHappy Birthday bigcalm ( I Think ? )08:33
bigcalm:O08:33
bigcalmWho told you? :P08:33
bigcalmAnd thank you08:33
diploThe all mighty and powerful08:33
diplo(Google!)08:33
Myrttiyeah, me too. HBD bigcalm08:35
bigcalmThank you Myrtti :)08:36
MooDoohappy birthday bigcalm  :D08:37
bigcalmThank you!08:37
diploI hide my birthday from all Social Media :)08:38
diploI'm not very good at celebrating me08:39
dwatkinsmany hippy reruns, bigcalm08:43
bigcalmThank you dwatkins08:45
popeybigcalm: Congratulations on clinging to a rock & circling it's nearest star for another arbitrary amount of time.08:53
directhexit's tough work. if you stop thinking about it for a second, you might float away08:54
bigcalmpopey: thanks, I do it so well08:54
popeyYou're certainly very much on a roll.08:54
bigcalmI've tried to forget to hit the ground, but I haven't mastered flying yet08:54
* popey looks for a bag containing retsina and a ball08:55
bigcalmI ordered a single wireless Qi power charger (the one popey has 2 of) from Amazon. The trader who sold them has sent me 2 as 2 separate orders. Silly Amazon09:04
popeyyeah, i got two like that too09:04
bigcalmI can't decide if I want to return one or not09:04
bigcalmOh, interesting09:04
bigcalmThey show 2 separate order numbers, but my orders list on Amazon only shows the one09:05
bigcalmI am quite confused09:05
MyrttiI think my Nokia one might not like the case I've got for my Nexus 509:07
bigcalmI wonder if I'll have to take my SGS5 out of its case for the charging to work09:07
popeymy nexus 4 charges with those in the case09:09
popeybut I took mine out of the cases and just have an orange slickwrap on the back now09:09
SuperMattanyone tried putting L on their nexus 5 yet?09:11
MyrttiI'm not that brave09:13
Myrttior insane09:13
SuperMattI was thinking of doing it this weekend09:15
bigcalmIt all works, phone now wirelessly charging09:17
bigcalmBack to work I go09:17
bigcalmPut a bit of a bulge in the case's back though :(09:18
bigcalmI want to uninstall a package that I have previously altered its config. What's the best way to make sure that it removes all trace of the configs as well as the package?09:20
Myrttiapt-get purge09:22
Myrttipurge purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too).09:22
bigcalmMyrtti: thank you, just what I hoped for :)09:23
MyrttiI've used remove --purge but apparently just purge does the same job09:23
bigcalmExcept it didn't do what I hoped for09:24
bigcalmThe directory and configs for exim still all exist09:24
* bigcalm removes by hand09:24
* Myrtti ♥ FTTC09:26
* popey ♥ VirginMedia09:26
Myrttiwe've got Zen09:28
Myrttiit's lovely09:28
Myrttihaving a bit of money after a long dry period is baaaddd. I'm not only browsing for a garden watering paraphenalia, but also bigger houses and white goods.09:29
Myrtticurrently: sprinklers, water pistols with lawn treatment/soap dispensers, aquastop hose ends, houses in Peterborough, chest freezer and washer dryer.09:30
popeyheh09:33
popeyThe problem with chest freezers is I'd want to fill it09:33
popeyalso would want a shop one with glass lid09:34
Myrttiwell, we've currently got one drawer of our fridge-freezer filled with rye bread.09:34
popeyhehe09:34
Myrttithe dark, hard, dry Finnish kind.09:34
Myrttiit's not optimal. We could have Chinese dumplings in that drawer instead.09:35
Myrttior lolly poles09:35
mgdmmmmm chinese dumplings09:35
mgdmthere's a shop near here that specialises in those09:36
Myrttimgdm: http://centraloriental.wordpress.com/09:36
Myrttiwe even bought an electric coolbox from Aldi on Saturday to help us haul stuff09:38
Myrttiwell, not only for that purpose, also for getting cheese back from Barnham Trading Post back to Cambs09:39
mgdmMyrtti: OOoooo I'm hungry now09:45
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:52
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davmor2Morning all10:03
MooDoomorning davmor2 :)10:10
davmor2bigcalm: Hippo birdy10:43
switchtehbeatodd question, anyone (I know this is the UK channel) use facebook selling sites to sell and buy stuff?10:49
popeywhat are facebook selling sites?10:49
popeyyou mean like regional community pages?10:50
switchtehbeatlike where people buy and sell stuff, all over the UK...10:50
popeyi am subscribed to a couple, never bought or sold though10:50
bigcalmdavmor2: thank you old man :)10:54
davmor2bigcalm: tally ho, pip pip and all that10:55
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foobarryswitchtehbeat: yes11:21
foobarrymainly kids for toys though, although i have sold a broken old computer too11:22
switchtehbeatoh,11:22
foobarryi have a 17 inch LCD monitor to sell for £10 to someone i need to do11:22
foobarrygive for free and people less likely to turn up, or they often doing it to re-sell :@11:23
switchtehbeatthey're getting more and more popular, some guy is selling an iPhone 4s and thought I might buy it.11:23
foobarryno different from gumtree11:23
foobarrysame risks apply11:23
foobarryyou might still get hit over the head or buy a stolen phone with no comebackl11:23
switchtehbeatyeah, that's what I'm afraid of. I have sold on there but not bought.11:24
foobarryyou could get the IMEI11:24
popey4s is the best iphone they ever made IMHO11:24
foobarryalthough they can be changed too i guess11:24
foobarrypopey :a freezer with a  glass lid is just asking to be filled with cornettos11:39
popeyhah11:39
foobarryyour kids would just be hanging around it all day11:39
foobarrylooking at ice pops11:39
foobarryjust added a few hypervisors in a different building, and more storage. vmotioning between buildings is cool :D11:43
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dwatkinsvmware certainly sounds impressive for the fact you can move running machines around12:13
MartijnVdSdwatkins: so can kvm :)12:14
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: oh cool, didn't know that - I've not used KVM in years12:17
MartijnVdS"live migration" is what you're looking for :)12:17
dwatkinsI just started playing with ESXi on a test machine a few days ago12:17
awilkinsAnyone use RescueTime?12:27
MooDooany one here work for bet365?12:30
awilkinsI know some people who work for SkyBet12:33
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ali1234good to see that steam now adds downloads to the end of the queue instead of the start (and so not interrupting the existing download)13:20
MyrttiI note it's firebug/thrips season again. Time to see to the air intakes of your computers and other electronic gear.13:38
* awilkins despises IE13:39
awilkinsEven when you jump through the hoops it demands to put pages in standards mode, it decides it only likes IE7 mode today13:39
MartijnVdS"We detected UNIX line endings. You must be from the stone age."13:40
awilkinsIs that why?13:40
awilkinsNope, doesn't fix it13:41
dogmatic69is it normal that commands with a space as the first char do not go in history?13:44
ali1234yes13:50
awilkinsDidn't know that one13:51
awilkinsTa, useful for when when you just have to put a password in your command13:51
foobarryrolf :(13:54
popeyoh dear13:56
foobarrynot sure how bad it is yt14:01
foobarryhow many points on the saville scale14:03
ndflol what?14:05
Myrttioh dear14:06
awilkinsGuilty on all counts14:06
Myrttigeez14:06
Myrttindf: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/30/rolf-harris-guilty-indecent-assault14:06
awilkinsSo quite a few Savilles short of a FixIt as yet.14:06
ndfrolf harris now eh?14:07
Myrtti"now"14:07
ndfha, well... it seems the entire TV industry is on it14:07
ndfand some MPs14:07
foobarrykfc will have to change their logo now14:08
ndf'cause the colonel looks like rolf?14:08
ndflol14:08
* awilkins watches KFCs attack lawyers target foobarry for libelling their logo14:09
foobarryhttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zMHQnG3XXac/S6b08RcVbsI/AAAAAAAAACQ/WUUn3EbJTus/s1600-h/Rolf_Harris_KFC_man.jpg14:09
ndfever noticed the pringles guy and the monopoly man are related?14:09
* awilkins pictures someone fishing a brown crispy lump out of the fryer saying "Can you tell what it is yet?"14:09
ndfha14:10
foobarrythey took 8 days to deliberate.wow14:13
michiel81anyone here familiar with 14.04 and touch controllers/screen? i could use some advice.14:14
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mappshi all15:20
diddledanello mapps15:40
mappssup mate15:48
bigcalmThanks to company, trading through Amazon, sending me two units; I now have a wireless charging unit in my bedroom and one in my office.16:03
bigcalmFree all the wires!16:03
diddledanbigcalm: you need a wire to the wireless charging unit, tho?16:07
diddledanis not like you can wirelessly charge over a metre of airspace yet16:08
diddledanairgap**16:08
mappsheh16:09
mapps:D16:09
diddledanfair enough you don't need to faff about with plugging and unplugging the phone/device16:10
mappsi want charging over air16:12
mapps:D16:12
bigcalmString replacement in bash16:14
bigcalmWhat's wrong with this? SQL=${SQL/##START_DATE##/${start_date}}16:14
Myrttiwell it takes the strain from the micro-USB on the phone too16:15
bigcalmI'm getting this: ./generate_report.sh: 25: ./generate_report.sh: Bad substitution16:15
bigcalmMyrtti: I went wireless because the SGS5 has a rubber seal flap over the micro usb charging socket. It's going to break off given time16:16
Myrttiit's not one or two devices that I've heard failed because the surface soldering of the microUSB to the PCB has gotten loose over time due to users yanking the charging cable16:16
Myrttibigcalm: and that too16:16
diddledanyeah microusb needs to be replaced with something more like the apple lightning conector16:17
bigcalmThat won't fix the flap issue16:17
diddledantrue16:17
diddledanbut then flaps are always a bad idea :-p16:18
bigcalmIt's to make the unit water resistant16:18
diddledanunless, that is, you live in the 1920's and your flapper is pretty16:18
diddledanhttp://hexus.net/tech/news/industry/71493-nasa-scientists-created-460ghz-vacuum-tubes/16:25
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KrimZondoes anyone know how i can switch audio output hardware under 14.04 in mate?18:08
davmor2KrimZon: possibly the same way you do anywhere else.  Open system setting and then click on audio if it isn't available from the sound indicator18:10
KrimZonit's not there18:11
KrimZonthe thing that normally lets me switch audio output is missing18:11
davmor2KrimZon: have you tried in system settings?18:12
KrimZonthe control centre?18:12
davmor2KrimZon: could be18:13
KrimZonthere's only volume control, which doesn't seem to switch hardware18:13
davmor2KrimZon: in that case install pavucontorl18:14
davmor2pavucontrol even18:14
davmor2that sould let you18:14
KrimZonaha, that's not installed18:15
KrimZonah, thanks... that was what I was looking for18:18
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ali1234yeah pavucontrol is great18:20
ali1234for some reason they dropped it in ubuntu and replaced it with some dumbed down thing that can only adjust the volume18:20
ali1234it's still default in xfce18:21
KrimZonthat's a pain, because it never picks the soundcard I actually use18:22
ali1234yes, i always turn off unused outputs, it really helps18:22
ali1234i set my main sound card to analogue stereo output, my webcam to analogue stereo input, and my video card hdmi to off18:23
ali1234this prevents skype from using the wrong input every single time i start it18:23
ali1234you end up with only one input and one output which is simple enough that nothing gets confused18:23
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popeyi dont think we dropped pavucontrol18:30
popeywe never had it as a default mixer18:30
popeyit's always been in universe, so never been on the cd18:30
ali1234okay, well in that case ubuntu used to have something that was an almost exact clone of pavucontrol18:39
KrimZonubuntu 14.04 proved too new for a radeon hd485019:38
foobarryhow can i record http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b048vpmp/the-old-plane-and-the-sea-rescuing-the-last-dornier-17 with get_iplayer?19:56
foobarrydoesn't seem to be available on get_iplayer19:57
foobarryah. got it with --url19:58
diddledanI'm debating https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=samsung_gear_live_black20:56
MyrttiI like how the LG one looks like more20:59
diddledanyeah, I'm not sure which I prefer21:01
diddledanthe samsung has an arguably sharper screen, but the lg has better battery capacity21:05
diddledanboth have same storage and ram and processor21:05
diddledanthe samsung is 4g lighter and has a heart rate monitor21:05
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