[05:42] <MooDoo> morning all
[05:42] <mapps> morning MooDoo
[05:48] <michiel81> Hello, i was wondering if anyone has any experience with 14.04 and touch controllers?
[05:55] <mapps> not me sorry
[06:00] <michiel81> Hehe, story of my life, been fidling about with it for the last 4 days. Did get it to register touch but can't calibrate it.
[06:08] <Myrtti> morning
[06:10] <nigelb> *sniff*
[06:10] <nigelb> mroning
[08:16] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Meteor Watch Day! :-D
[08:17] <DJones> morning JamesTait, I'll watch bruce willis have an eventful day in armageddon then
[08:18] <JamesTait> Works for me, DJones. :)
[08:31] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:32] <diplo> Morning all
[08:33] <diplo> Happy Birthday bigcalm ( I Think ? )
[08:33] <bigcalm> :O
[08:33] <bigcalm> Who told you? :P
[08:33] <bigcalm> And thank you
[08:33] <diplo> The all mighty and powerful
[08:33] <diplo> (Google!)
[08:35] <Myrtti> yeah, me too. HBD bigcalm
[08:36] <bigcalm> Thank you Myrtti :)
[08:37] <MooDoo> happy birthday bigcalm  :D
[08:37] <bigcalm> Thank you!
[08:38] <diplo> I hide my birthday from all Social Media :)
[08:39] <diplo> I'm not very good at celebrating me
[08:43] <dwatkins> many hippy reruns, bigcalm
[08:45] <bigcalm> Thank you dwatkins
[08:53] <popey> bigcalm: Congratulations on clinging to a rock & circling it's nearest star for another arbitrary amount of time.
[08:54] <directhex> it's tough work. if you stop thinking about it for a second, you might float away
[08:54] <bigcalm> popey: thanks, I do it so well
[08:54] <popey> You're certainly very much on a roll.
[08:54] <bigcalm> I've tried to forget to hit the ground, but I haven't mastered flying yet
[08:55]  * popey looks for a bag containing retsina and a ball
[09:04] <bigcalm> I ordered a single wireless Qi power charger (the one popey has 2 of) from Amazon. The trader who sold them has sent me 2 as 2 separate orders. Silly Amazon
[09:04] <popey> yeah, i got two like that too
[09:04] <bigcalm> I can't decide if I want to return one or not
[09:04] <bigcalm> Oh, interesting
[09:05] <bigcalm> They show 2 separate order numbers, but my orders list on Amazon only shows the one
[09:05] <bigcalm> I am quite confused
[09:07] <Myrtti> I think my Nokia one might not like the case I've got for my Nexus 5
[09:07] <bigcalm> I wonder if I'll have to take my SGS5 out of its case for the charging to work
[09:09] <popey> my nexus 4 charges with those in the case
[09:09] <popey> but I took mine out of the cases and just have an orange slickwrap on the back now
[09:11] <SuperMatt> anyone tried putting L on their nexus 5 yet?
[09:13] <Myrtti> I'm not that brave
[09:13] <Myrtti> or insane
[09:15] <SuperMatt> I was thinking of doing it this weekend
[09:17] <bigcalm> It all works, phone now wirelessly charging
[09:17] <bigcalm> Back to work I go
[09:18] <bigcalm> Put a bit of a bulge in the case's back though :(
[09:20] <bigcalm> I want to uninstall a package that I have previously altered its config. What's the best way to make sure that it removes all trace of the configs as well as the package?
[09:22] <Myrtti> apt-get purge
[09:22] <Myrtti> purge purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too).
[09:23] <bigcalm> Myrtti: thank you, just what I hoped for :)
[09:23] <Myrtti> I've used remove --purge but apparently just purge does the same job
[09:24] <bigcalm> Except it didn't do what I hoped for
[09:24] <bigcalm> The directory and configs for exim still all exist
[09:24]  * bigcalm removes by hand
[09:26]  * Myrtti ♥ FTTC
[09:26]  * popey ♥ VirginMedia
[09:28] <Myrtti> we've got Zen
[09:28] <Myrtti> it's lovely
[09:29] <Myrtti> having a bit of money after a long dry period is baaaddd. I'm not only browsing for a garden watering paraphenalia, but also bigger houses and white goods.
[09:30] <Myrtti> currently: sprinklers, water pistols with lawn treatment/soap dispensers, aquastop hose ends, houses in Peterborough, chest freezer and washer dryer.
[09:33] <popey> heh
[09:33] <popey> The problem with chest freezers is I'd want to fill it
[09:34] <popey> also would want a shop one with glass lid
[09:34] <Myrtti> well, we've currently got one drawer of our fridge-freezer filled with rye bread.
[09:34] <popey> hehe
[09:34] <Myrtti> the dark, hard, dry Finnish kind.
[09:35] <Myrtti> it's not optimal. We could have Chinese dumplings in that drawer instead.
[09:35] <Myrtti> or lolly poles
[09:35] <mgdm> mmmm chinese dumplings
[09:36] <mgdm> there's a shop near here that specialises in those
[09:36] <Myrtti> mgdm: http://centraloriental.wordpress.com/ ♥
[09:38] <Myrtti> we even bought an electric coolbox from Aldi on Saturday to help us haul stuff
[09:39] <Myrtti> well, not only for that purpose, also for getting cheese back from Barnham Trading Post back to Cambs
[09:45] <mgdm> Myrtti: OOoooo I'm hungry now
[09:52] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:10] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 :)
[10:43] <davmor2> bigcalm: Hippo birdy
[10:49] <switchtehbeat> odd question, anyone (I know this is the UK channel) use facebook selling sites to sell and buy stuff?
[10:49] <popey> what are facebook selling sites?
[10:50] <popey> you mean like regional community pages?
[10:50] <switchtehbeat> like where people buy and sell stuff, all over the UK...
[10:50] <popey> i am subscribed to a couple, never bought or sold though
[10:54] <bigcalm> davmor2: thank you old man :)
[10:55] <davmor2> bigcalm: tally ho, pip pip and all that
[11:21] <foobarry> switchtehbeat: yes
[11:22] <foobarry> mainly kids for toys though, although i have sold a broken old computer too
[11:22] <switchtehbeat> oh,
[11:22] <foobarry> i have a 17 inch LCD monitor to sell for £10 to someone i need to do
[11:23] <foobarry> give for free and people less likely to turn up, or they often doing it to re-sell :@
[11:23] <switchtehbeat> they're getting more and more popular, some guy is selling an iPhone 4s and thought I might buy it.
[11:23] <foobarry> no different from gumtree
[11:23] <foobarry> same risks apply
[11:23] <foobarry> you might still get hit over the head or buy a stolen phone with no comebackl
[11:24] <switchtehbeat> yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. I have sold on there but not bought.
[11:24] <foobarry> you could get the IMEI
[11:24] <popey> 4s is the best iphone they ever made IMHO
[11:24] <foobarry> although they can be changed too i guess
[11:39] <foobarry> popey :a freezer with a  glass lid is just asking to be filled with cornettos
[11:39] <popey> hah
[11:39] <foobarry> your kids would just be hanging around it all day
[11:39] <foobarry> looking at ice pops
[11:43] <foobarry> just added a few hypervisors in a different building, and more storage. vmotioning between buildings is cool :D
[12:13] <dwatkins> vmware certainly sounds impressive for the fact you can move running machines around
[12:14] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: so can kvm :)
[12:17] <dwatkins> MartijnVdS: oh cool, didn't know that - I've not used KVM in years
[12:17] <MartijnVdS> "live migration" is what you're looking for :)
[12:17] <dwatkins> I just started playing with ESXi on a test machine a few days ago
[12:27] <awilkins> Anyone use RescueTime?
[12:30] <MooDoo> any one here work for bet365?
[12:33] <awilkins> I know some people who work for SkyBet
[13:20] <ali1234> good to see that steam now adds downloads to the end of the queue instead of the start (and so not interrupting the existing download)
[13:38] <Myrtti> I note it's firebug/thrips season again. Time to see to the air intakes of your computers and other electronic gear.
[13:39]  * awilkins despises IE
[13:39] <awilkins> Even when you jump through the hoops it demands to put pages in standards mode, it decides it only likes IE7 mode today
[13:40] <MartijnVdS> "We detected UNIX line endings. You must be from the stone age."
[13:40] <awilkins> Is that why?
[13:41] <awilkins> Nope, doesn't fix it
[13:44] <dogmatic69> is it normal that commands with a space as the first char do not go in history?
[13:50] <ali1234> yes
[13:51] <awilkins> Didn't know that one
[13:51] <awilkins> Ta, useful for when when you just have to put a password in your command
[13:54] <foobarry> rolf :(
[13:56] <popey> oh dear
[14:01] <foobarry> not sure how bad it is yt
[14:03] <foobarry> how many points on the saville scale
[14:05] <ndf> lol what?
[14:06] <Myrtti> oh dear
[14:06] <awilkins> Guilty on all counts
[14:06] <Myrtti> geez
[14:06] <Myrtti> ndf: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/30/rolf-harris-guilty-indecent-assault
[14:06] <awilkins> So quite a few Savilles short of a FixIt as yet.
[14:07] <ndf> rolf harris now eh?
[14:07] <Myrtti> "now"
[14:07] <ndf> ha, well... it seems the entire TV industry is on it
[14:07] <ndf> and some MPs
[14:08] <foobarry> kfc will have to change their logo now
[14:08] <ndf> 'cause the colonel looks like rolf?
[14:08] <ndf> lol
[14:09]  * awilkins watches KFCs attack lawyers target foobarry for libelling their logo
[14:09] <foobarry> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zMHQnG3XXac/S6b08RcVbsI/AAAAAAAAACQ/WUUn3EbJTus/s1600-h/Rolf_Harris_KFC_man.jpg
[14:09] <ndf> ever noticed the pringles guy and the monopoly man are related?
[14:09]  * awilkins pictures someone fishing a brown crispy lump out of the fryer saying "Can you tell what it is yet?"
[14:10] <ndf> ha
[14:13] <foobarry> they took 8 days to deliberate.wow
[14:14] <michiel81> anyone here familiar with 14.04 and touch controllers/screen? i could use some advice.
[15:20] <mapps> hi all
[15:40] <diddledan> ello mapps
[15:48] <mapps> sup mate
[16:03] <bigcalm> Thanks to company, trading through Amazon, sending me two units; I now have a wireless charging unit in my bedroom and one in my office.
[16:03] <bigcalm> Free all the wires!
[16:07] <diddledan> bigcalm: you need a wire to the wireless charging unit, tho?
[16:08] <diddledan> is not like you can wirelessly charge over a metre of airspace yet
[16:08] <diddledan> airgap**
[16:09] <mapps> heh
[16:09] <mapps> :D
[16:10] <diddledan> fair enough you don't need to faff about with plugging and unplugging the phone/device
[16:12] <mapps> i want charging over air
[16:12] <mapps> :D
[16:14] <bigcalm> String replacement in bash
[16:14] <bigcalm> What's wrong with this? SQL=${SQL/##START_DATE##/${start_date}}
[16:15] <Myrtti> well it takes the strain from the micro-USB on the phone too
[16:15] <bigcalm> I'm getting this: ./generate_report.sh: 25: ./generate_report.sh: Bad substitution
[16:16] <bigcalm> Myrtti: I went wireless because the SGS5 has a rubber seal flap over the micro usb charging socket. It's going to break off given time
[16:16] <Myrtti> it's not one or two devices that I've heard failed because the surface soldering of the microUSB to the PCB has gotten loose over time due to users yanking the charging cable
[16:16] <Myrtti> bigcalm: and that too
[16:17] <diddledan> yeah microusb needs to be replaced with something more like the apple lightning conector
[16:17] <bigcalm> That won't fix the flap issue
[16:17] <diddledan> true
[16:18] <diddledan> but then flaps are always a bad idea :-p
[16:18] <bigcalm> It's to make the unit water resistant
[16:18] <diddledan> unless, that is, you live in the 1920's and your flapper is pretty
[16:25] <diddledan> http://hexus.net/tech/news/industry/71493-nasa-scientists-created-460ghz-vacuum-tubes/
[18:08] <KrimZon> does anyone know how i can switch audio output hardware under 14.04 in mate?
[18:10] <davmor2> KrimZon: possibly the same way you do anywhere else.  Open system setting and then click on audio if it isn't available from the sound indicator
[18:11] <KrimZon> it's not there
[18:11] <KrimZon> the thing that normally lets me switch audio output is missing
[18:12] <davmor2> KrimZon: have you tried in system settings?
[18:12] <KrimZon> the control centre?
[18:13] <davmor2> KrimZon: could be
[18:13] <KrimZon> there's only volume control, which doesn't seem to switch hardware
[18:14] <davmor2> KrimZon: in that case install pavucontorl
[18:14] <davmor2> pavucontrol even
[18:14] <davmor2> that sould let you
[18:15] <KrimZon> aha, that's not installed
[18:18] <KrimZon> ah, thanks... that was what I was looking for
[18:20] <ali1234> yeah pavucontrol is great
[18:20] <ali1234> for some reason they dropped it in ubuntu and replaced it with some dumbed down thing that can only adjust the volume
[18:21] <ali1234> it's still default in xfce
[18:22] <KrimZon> that's a pain, because it never picks the soundcard I actually use
[18:22] <ali1234> yes, i always turn off unused outputs, it really helps
[18:23] <ali1234> i set my main sound card to analogue stereo output, my webcam to analogue stereo input, and my video card hdmi to off
[18:23] <ali1234> this prevents skype from using the wrong input every single time i start it
[18:23] <ali1234> you end up with only one input and one output which is simple enough that nothing gets confused
[18:30] <popey> i dont think we dropped pavucontrol
[18:30] <popey> we never had it as a default mixer
[18:30] <popey> it's always been in universe, so never been on the cd
[18:39] <ali1234> okay, well in that case ubuntu used to have something that was an almost exact clone of pavucontrol
[19:38] <KrimZon> ubuntu 14.04 proved too new for a radeon hd4850
[19:56] <foobarry> how can i record http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b048vpmp/the-old-plane-and-the-sea-rescuing-the-last-dornier-17 with get_iplayer?
[19:57] <foobarry> doesn't seem to be available on get_iplayer
[19:58] <foobarry> ah. got it with --url
[20:56] <diddledan> I'm debating https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=samsung_gear_live_black
[20:59] <Myrtti> I like how the LG one looks like more
[21:01] <diddledan> yeah, I'm not sure which I prefer
[21:05] <diddledan> the samsung has an arguably sharper screen, but the lg has better battery capacity
[21:05] <diddledan> both have same storage and ram and processor
[21:05] <diddledan> the samsung is 4g lighter and has a heart rate monitor