| soee | good morning | 06:15 |
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| Riddell | hola chicos | 07:59 |
| milissa | http://adf.ly/pyduc | 08:22 |
| Riddell | spammer | 08:23 |
| Riddell | !ircc | 08:23 |
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| Riddell | jussi: tell freenode to ban ^^ | 08:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: remind me why debdiff | filterdiff is better than diff -urN ? | 09:55 |
| Riddell | I can't get filterdiff --include=debian to work | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: dpkg-buildpackage -S && { debdiff ../*dsc | filterdiff -i '*/debian/*' } | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | filterdiff is superior because you want to review the delta of the actual artifact you intend to upload, a manual diff does not correctly represent this | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | random unlikely example: clean rule removes stuff from debian/, then your manual diff might not be what a debdiff would show | 10:01 |
| Riddell | this all seems very improbable for the extra effort | 10:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what's the extra effort? | 10:04 |
| apachelogger | you need to build the dsc anyway and diffing over the dscs gives a correct representation of the delta while a manual diff doesn't | 10:05 |
| Riddell | debdiff *dsc | filterdiff -i '*/debian/*' takes much longer to type and has more chance of mistakes than diff -urN foo/debian/* current/foo/debian/* | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | that's almost the same amount of typing :P | 10:05 |
| Riddell | now if debdiff had an option to just show you the debian/ contents, that would make a lot of sense | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | also scripting is your friend ^^ | 10:05 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/trusty-backports/+bug/1335840 | 10:20 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1335840 in trusty-backports "Please backport kdeconnect 0.7.1-0ubuntu3 (universe) from utopic-proposed" [Undecided,New] | 10:20 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 11:07 |
| sgclark | morning all | 11:17 |
| Riddell | hola sgclark | 11:17 |
| Riddell | notes: plasma-mc needs depend on baloo | 11:18 |
| Riddell | baloo | baloo-kf5 I guess | 11:18 |
| Riddell | it also needs compiled with -DNO_LINK_TO_PLASMA=ON | 11:18 |
| Riddell | which is what stops it freezing | 11:18 |
| Riddell | cos qtmultimediakit uses gstreamer 0.10 while plasma uses gstreamer 1.0 | 11:18 |
| Riddell | it also needs to recommend all the gstreamer 0.10 codecs (good, bad and ugly) | 11:19 |
| Riddell | but worst of all, it doesn't play game of thrones because we have no gstreamer 0.10 codec for video/x-h264 | 11:19 |
| sgclark | oh nos :( | 11:20 |
| Riddell | it doesn't play youtube either can that's mp4 | 11:20 |
| Riddell | plasma-mc has so much promise but the technology just lets it down :( | 11:20 |
| sgclark | ahhh, then why is the big youtube button lol | 11:20 |
| Riddell | well if your distro still supports gstreamer 0.10 then it's all good | 11:22 |
| Riddell | but ubuntu has removed libav plugin for gstreamer so no mp4 (as I understand it) | 11:22 |
| Riddell | instead just a warning Warning: "No decoder available for type 'video/x-h264'" | 11:23 |
| sgclark | gosh hthat is not very useful, youutube is the main reason I would use | 11:23 |
| Riddell | sgclark: anyway, are you able to make those changes? | 11:24 |
| sgclark | sure thing | 11:24 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I got confused yesterday because I didn't realise you had two PPAs, what's the second one for? | 11:24 |
| sgclark | Riddell: my PPAs only hold like one maybe two, so I made one for trusty and one for utopic | 11:25 |
| Riddell | one maybe two what? | 11:25 |
| sgclark | packages | 11:25 |
| Riddell | but why? | 11:26 |
| sgclark | I don't know, I get out of space rejects alot though | 11:26 |
| Riddell | gosh really? | 11:26 |
| sgclark | mhmm | 11:26 |
| Riddell | hum | 11:27 |
| Riddell | well no importante | 11:27 |
| Riddell | you can also use kubuntu-ppa/experimental for works in progress | 11:27 |
| sgclark | ok thanks | 11:27 |
| Riddell | we have three abstractions of gstreamer for qt all with varying abilities, this makes me cry | 11:31 |
| sgclark | yeah I was messing around trying to figure it all out last night | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | sgclark, Riddell: staging is fro work in progress | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | experimental is for experimental packages | 11:34 |
| sgclark | ahh right, will use that, thanks | 11:34 |
| === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro | ||
| sgclark | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages?batch=75&direction=backwards&start=225 | 12:39 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: the difference seems sometimes arbitrary | 12:47 |
| sgclark | Riddell: nevermind, now affected by https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335904 | 12:51 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 335904 in Shell "NO_LINK_TO_PLASMA option non-operational" [Grave,Reopened] | 12:51 |
| Riddell | sgclark: really? it solved the freeze issue for me | 12:52 |
| sgclark | won't start for me | 12:52 |
| sgclark | which well I suppose stops the feezes haha | 12:53 |
| Riddell | sgclark: you run plasma-mediacenter and nothing happens? | 12:54 |
| sgclark | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7731279/ | 12:55 |
| sgclark | Failed to load Plasma Libraries, cannot continue. is the problem | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it's not, experimental is about the scope of the software in the package, not the package itself | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | that is: stuff in experimental is expected to install and uninstall | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | whether the actual software works is out of scope for experimental, but the package mustn't screw the user over | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | http://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Kubuntu_Experimental | 12:58 |
| Riddell | si | 12:59 |
| Riddell | sgclark: did you get /usr/lib/libplasmaadapter.so.1.3 installed? | 13:03 |
| Riddell | it only gets created when you build with NO_LINK_TO_PLASMA | 13:03 |
| sgclark | Unpacking libplasmamediacenter1.3 (1.3.0-0ubuntu1) over (1.3.0-0ubuntu1) ... | 13:03 |
| Riddell | "adapter" | 13:04 |
| sgclark | oh hmm | 13:04 |
| Riddell | different name | 13:04 |
| * sgclark look | 13:04 | |
| sgclark | Riddell: that is the problem, seems list-missing did not get run *fixing* | 13:11 |
| Riddell | kubotu: newversion qt-gstreamer 1.1.90 | 13:25 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1336256 | 13:25 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, I see thew switch to systemd being bad mouthed in the ##linux room due to this url , http://boycottsystemd.org/ , is there any truth to these claims ? | 13:29 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: yes, lots | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | then why the switch Riddell?, seems like a bad move | 13:33 |
| Riddell | because for all those grumbles a modern init system has lots of advantages, and I don't want to be the only decent distro using !systemd | 13:35 |
| BluesKaj | is sysvinit no longer able to handle the changes to ubuntu | 13:35 |
| Riddell | we haven't used sysvinit for some years | 13:36 |
| Riddell | it's slow and very distro specific | 13:36 |
| BluesKaj | oh? | 13:36 |
| sgclark | sigh, irc hates me | 13:37 |
| * BluesKaj learned something new today | 13:37 | |
| apachelogger | that page is much silly | 13:37 |
| BluesKaj | probly archlinux haters | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | nah, just whiners | 13:41 |
| sgclark | Riddell: new plasma-mc up in staging. Looks like it works aside from me not having anything that doesn't use Warning: "No decoder available for type 'video/x-h264, | 14:16 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I have to step out for 1 hour, will be back though. | 14:18 |
| Riddell | sgclark: you could test it with this gripping narative blockbuster with tragedy and triumph http://ftp.belnet.be/FOSDEM/2014/H1302_Depage/Saturday/Do_you_have_to_be_brain_damaged_to_care_about_desktop_Linux.webm | 14:20 |
| tsdgeos | Only 4 donations to 300 people! http://www.kde.org/fundraisers/randameetings2014/ :) | 14:48 |
| sgclark | Riddell: that video works :) | 15:05 |
| Riddell | yay | 15:05 |
| sgclark | Riddell: no changes between trusty and utopic, still need me to upload both? | 15:06 |
| Riddell | sgclark: no I'll upload to utopic and trusty-proposed for an SRU | 15:07 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok great | 15:07 |
| sgclark | Riddell: was that release today or ? | 15:07 |
| Riddell | sgclark: no sign of dfaure so I guess not until this (european) evening | 15:07 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok, gonna get some chores done, ping me when it happens | 15:08 |
| Riddell | sgclark: are you on the kde-packager e-mail list yet? | 15:08 |
| sgclark | Riddell: no I am not, I am guessing I should be? | 15:09 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure how you subscribe to it now, https://sysadmin.kde.org maybe | 15:09 |
| Riddell | sgclark: try filling in something there and giving me as reference | 15:09 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok submitted ticket | 15:12 |
| Riddell | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=kubuntu-packaging could do with some cleanup | 15:12 |
| sgclark | Riddell: didn't we just do 1.3? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-mediacenter/+bug/1328246 | 15:13 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1328246 in plasma-mediacenter (Ubuntu) "Please update plasma-mediacenter to 1.2.90" [Undecided,New] | 15:13 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yes so that should be closed | 15:14 |
| sgclark | Riddell: k | 15:14 |
| sgclark | Riddell: artikulate says in progress assignee: Howard Chan (smartboyhw) is this person still around? | 15:25 |
| Riddell | sgclark: nope he wandered off when he got busy/burnt out (don't you burn out!) | 15:27 |
| sgclark | but it looks like it is in trusty-proposed | 15:28 |
| sgclark | lol | 15:28 |
| Riddell | ah so maybe it's all done anyway | 15:28 |
| sgclark | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/artikulate/trusty-proposed/files | 15:28 |
| Riddell | it's in KDE SC now | 15:28 |
| sgclark | ok closing | 15:28 |
| Riddell | yeah moved to kde-edu | 15:28 |
| sgclark | Riddell: umm librocket google search shows someone built this https://launchpad.net/~joern-schoenyan/+archive/librocket can we use this? | 15:36 |
| * Riddell looks | 15:38 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what do you know about librocket? | 15:39 |
| Riddell | http://librocket.com/ C++ user interface middleware package based on the HTML and CSS standards | 15:41 |
| Riddell | well I've no idea what uses that | 15:41 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I guess apachelogger had some reason to want it packaged a year ago but not a very good reason since he didn't get round to it, wait until he replies but probably close it | 15:42 |
| sgclark | sorry internet hiccup, verdict on librocket? | 15:47 |
| Riddell | 16:39 < Riddell> http://librocket.com/ C++ user interface middleware package based on the HTML and CSS standards | 15:48 |
| Riddell | 16:39 < Riddell> well I've no idea what uses that | 15:48 |
| Riddell | 16:40 < Riddell> sgclark: I guess apachelogger had some reason to want it packaged a year ago but not a very good reason since he didn't get round to it, wait until he replies but probably close it | 15:48 |
| sgclark | ok | 15:48 |
| sgclark | Riddell: cleaned up, will work on libqapt | 16:00 |
| Riddell | sgclark: oh? what's need doing with it? | 16:05 |
| sgclark | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt/+bug/1328165 | 16:05 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1328165 in libqapt (Ubuntu) "Please update libqapt to 2.2.0" [Undecided,New] | 16:06 |
| Riddell | hah my own bug too, great please do | 16:07 |
| sgclark | Riddell: libqapt in staging | 16:47 |
| sgclark | Riddell: no changes for trusty ^ | 16:57 |
| Riddell | sgclark: great | 19:43 |
| Riddell | sgclark: plasma patch looks good, you can commit it yourself | 20:11 |
| sgclark | ty | 20:11 |
| Riddell | making plasma build-dep on the right frameworks -dev packages is another issue | 20:14 |
| Riddell | would need another comand line switch | 20:15 |
| soee | good news :-) | 20:57 |
| soee | latest version of plasma-next from neos works great ! | 20:57 |
| soee | *neon | 20:57 |
| * Riddell spots stable/frameworks/5.0.0/ | 21:10 | |
| yofel | \o/ | 21:12 |
| * yofel notes that CFQ is a horrible choice of IO scheduler if one creates fixed size virtualbox images on a rotary medium | 21:21 | |
| yofel | unlike dealine you can barely even move the mouse | 21:21 |
| yofel | *deadline | 21:21 |
| Riddell | is that the one that baloo wants? | 21:31 |
| * Riddell grabs an espresso mocha and some tortilla and cracks on with kubuntu-initial-upload | 21:31 | |
| yofel | yes | 21:37 |
| kubotu | feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | sgclark: close librocket, use case disappeared | 22:16 |
| sgclark | apachelogger: ok | 22:16 |
| kubotu | feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 | 22:43 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - The Distro for Octopuses | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas-frameworks KF5 5.0.0! | ||
| Riddell | KF5 5.0.0 up in next PPA, do keep an eye on it ninjas and poke as needed | 22:53 |
| Riddell | also if someone could set up a qa report that would be great | 22:54 |
| * Riddell wanders "home" | 22:54 | |
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