[00:40] <rick_h__> evening
[00:51] <cmaloney> Howdy
[01:01] <rick_h__> we having fun yet?
[01:08] <cmaloney> Um, sure. :)
[01:33] <jrwren> ugh.
[01:33] <jrwren> today was the best day of my life. Tomorrow will be even better. I just keep telling myself this.
[01:36] <rick_h__> lol
[01:36] <rick_h__> almost done bringing back CI :)
[01:37] <rick_h__> but done working on it for tonight
[01:49] <rick_h__> jrwren: how went the juju tasks?
[02:09] <jrwren> nothing works.
[02:09] <jrwren> i'm guessing it is what I get for picking azure and joyent. I wanted to use providers I'd not used before.
[02:12] <rick_h__> heh, yea. There's known bugs with azure, we were hitting them today.
[02:12] <rick_h__> I've not tried to use joyent before
[02:12] <rick_h__> jrwren: tomorrow remind me and will check on the azure bugs. I know brad hit them and had links and work arounds
[02:53] <greg-g> rick_h__: you have no CI right now?
[12:23] <jrwren> mornin
[12:24] <rick_h__> morning
[12:32] <dickweed> morning
[12:32] <dickweed> server went down it seems...
[12:33] <mrgoodcat> i really need to change my default nick
[12:36] <brousch> Hm, we just got a call from Dick's Lawn Service. The called ID is "Dicks Weed"
[12:37] <mrgoodcat> lol
[13:19] <cmaloney> Morning and all that.
[13:19] <rick_h__> wheee
[13:20] <cmaloney> Yeah,no kidding
[13:20] <cmaloney> last night was fun with the weather radio going off
[13:20] <rick_h__> hah
[13:20] <rick_h__> yea my wife woke up and asked me why my face was flashing
[13:20] <rick_h__> I told her that's lightning dear
[13:21] <cmaloney> Sure you didn't lose power and had your internal clock flashing 12:00? :)
[18:04] <mrgoodcat> taco.io expires tomorrow
[18:04] <mrgoodcat> someone should buy
[18:05] <rick_h__> woot
[18:20] <brousch> rick_h__: Is there a rick_h__-approved rear automobile bike rack?
[18:21] <rick_h__> brousch: <3 my new yakima one
[18:21] <brousch> I just realized you are our Ron Swanson
[18:21] <rick_h__> hmm, or maybe thule, at the coffee shop and bought it local so don't have it in my amz history
[18:22] <brousch> It's likely that I will be getting rid of my old minivan and getting a used prius this month
[18:23] <brousch> I used to put 3 bikes and all camping gear in my van
[18:23] <rick_h__> brousch: best thing evar! http://www.amazon.com/Yakima-RidgeBack-4-Bike-Hitch-Rack/dp/B00FUHDNRU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1404238975&sr=8-6&keywords=trailer+hitch+bike+rack
[18:23] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/awhdEa - Amazon.com : Yakima RidgeBack 4-Bike Hitch Rack : Automotive Bike Racks : Sports & Outdoors
[18:23] <rick_h__> brousch: the red handle on the bottom makes it nice and easy to get on and off
[18:23] <rick_h__> brousch: the clips are fast/easy
[18:25] <brousch> oooh, i like
[18:26] <rick_h__> brousch: yea, it's $$ but man it's so nice to be able to put it on and off in 5min without a wrench and such. And it's still lockable
[18:26] <rick_h__> and the rubber clips to lock bikes down are so fast and easy
[18:27] <rick_h__> and there's another one of me out there? I'm officially scared :) (re: a Ron Swanson)
[18:28] <cmaloney> I still have a bike rack in the box that I haven't even pulled out.
[18:28] <cmaloney> Damn thing scares me.
[18:28] <cmaloney> I don't know why.
[18:28] <rick_h__> lol
[18:28] <cmaloney> I think it was because I wanted to get an actual hitch for the caliber and use that but never made it past the Google search
[18:29] <rick_h__> yea, I had an old car I just went the uhaul route and they welded something on that got me by
[18:29] <mrgoodcat> I have a thule bike rack that i like just fine
[18:29] <mrgoodcat> make sure you get one that goes on your hitch though and doesn't touch your paint
[18:30] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Yeah, this one is all straps and what-not.
[18:31] <mrgoodcat> also you want one that can fold away from the car so you can open the tailgate
[18:33] <mrgoodcat> can't find my exact one on amazon but this one is pretty close http://www.amazon.com/Thule-956-Parkway-4-Bike-Receiver/dp/B000CQ47GU/ref=sr_1_5?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1404239527&sr=1-5
[18:33] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/bqF8wA - Amazon.com : Thule 956 Parkway 4-Bike Hitch Mount Rack (2-Inch Receiver) : Automotive Bike Racks : Sports & Outdoors
[18:33] <brousch> yakima has a lot of them that look similar. swingdaddy, fulltilt, ridgeback, fullswing, doubledown
[18:34] <brousch> http://goo.gl/KYcXhL
[18:34] <bookiebot> Yakima Racks & Carriers › Error
[18:39] <brousch> Hm, aparently the prius is not supposed to tow anything. Looks like thehitch will be going on my wife's forester
[18:39] <cmaloney> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CQ6F42/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[18:39] <rick_h__> the forester didn't come with one?
[18:39] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/HULvdB - Amazon.com : Thule 961XT Speedway 2-Bike Trunk Rack : Automotive Bike Racks : Sports & Outdoors
[18:39] <cmaloney> That's the one that I ordered.
[18:39] <cmaloney> so if anyone wants a nice rack please let me know and we can arrange something. :)
[18:40] <cmaloney> Lightly stored.
[18:41] <mrgoodcat> i prefer roof racks if hitch isn't available
[18:42] <rick_h__> roof is high up on the touareg
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> my dad keeps a roof rack on his car for 2 bikes. it's pretty handy
[18:42] <rick_h__> and blocks my view of the sky
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> it's high on my suburban and my dad's durango too
[18:42] <rick_h__> heh
[18:42] <mrgoodcat> that's the only real problem though
[18:43]  * rick_h__ tries not to have conniption at the doc that was handed to me representing 3 days of a dev's work :s
[18:45] <mrgoodcat> 5 bullet points
[18:45] <mrgoodcat> 3 of them don't even say anything useful
[20:32] <cmaloney> greg-g: Did you lose a domain?
[20:33] <greg-g> my home server, yeah
[20:34] <cmaloney> That's some sht
[21:04] <mrgoodcat> how did you lose a domain?
[21:16] <cmaloney> Microsoft did a questionable takedown with the help of a federal judge to take down all of No-Ip's domains
[21:16] <cmaloney> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/millions-of-dymanic-dns-users-suffer-after-microsoft-seizes-no-ip-domains/
[21:16] <mrgoodcat> oh yea that
[21:16] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/sf9r5q - Millions of dynamic DNS users suffer after Microsoft seizes No-IP domains | Ars Technica
[21:17] <greg-g> that
[21:17] <greg-g> they couldn't handle the number of requests so a bunch of domains aren't working, like mine
[21:17] <mrgoodcat> sucks if you lost a domain but i haven't seen any more than clickbait buzz about it
[21:17] <greg-g> which wasn't nefarious in anyway
[21:17] <mrgoodcat> i haven't seen any real stats about the takedown
[21:17] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Um...
[21:17] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: then you aren't reading
[21:17] <greg-g> http://www.noip.com/blog/2014/06/30/ips-formal-statement-microsoft-takedown/
[21:17] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/pWdeAZ - No-IP's Formal Statement on Microsoft Takedown | No-IP Blog - Managed DNS Services
[21:17] <mrgoodcat> not what i meant
[21:18] <mrgoodcat> i know lots of people's domains aren't working
[21:18] <mrgoodcat> and that sucks
[21:18] <cmaloney> Basically they became the DNS provider for a ton of tomains
[21:18] <mrgoodcat> i meant more along the lines of what it was SUPPOSED to do. i haven't seen anything about if it actually worked
[21:18] <cmaloney> domains
[21:19] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'm not sure how it was ever supposed to end well
[21:19] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: sure, the small subset of domains that were serving malware are no longer server malware, but along with that went a ton of legitimate domains
[21:19] <cmaloney> The bigger problem is Microsoft was able to, with the help of the Federal Government, take down a bunch of sites
[21:19] <greg-g> just like when a copyright notice took down millions of domains under a top domain because of a few (dozens) of bad sites
[21:20] <cmaloney> If that isn't scary I don't know what is
[21:20] <greg-g> property is no longer property online, unless it is, when we (the gov) want to charge you for criminal charges
[21:21] <mrgoodcat> wonder what law allowed microsoft to act on this
[21:21] <mrgoodcat> i could see if the government took down domains, but idk how its even possible for microsoft to do
[21:22] <greg-g> http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_blog/archive/2014/06/30/microsoft-takes-on-global-cybercrime-epidemic-in-tenth-malware-disruption.aspx
[21:22] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/ZHkOem - Microsoft takes on global cybercrime epidemic in tenth malware disruption - The Official Microsoft Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
[21:22] <greg-g> RTFA
[21:24] <cmaloney> "This is the third malware disruption by Microsoft since the November unveiling of the Microsoft Cybercrime Center—a center of excellence for advancing the global fight against cybercrime."
[21:25] <cmaloney> "Center [of|for] excellence" trips my doublespeak detector
[21:25] <greg-g> :)
[21:25] <cmaloney> Also would make an awesome safeword
[21:27] <cmaloney> Also, could someone please shitcan hotmail.com so we can "advance the global fight against stupidity"?
[21:27] <cmaloney> and yahoo.com email.
[21:27] <mrgoodcat> i read the article. what i meant is i wonder what mechanism is in place that allows a private organization to do this. obviously they got a court order handing over the domains but how were the domains transferred to microsoft instead of the government?
[21:28] <greg-g> sounds like you have some searching to do, mrgoodcat :)
[21:28] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: likely because they were working with Federal Investigators
[21:28] <rick_h__> heh, mrgoodcat has homework :)
[21:28] <cmaloney> eg: FBI and the like
[21:28] <rick_h__> greg-g: the librarian comes out to play
[21:28] <mrgoodcat> right i get where the authority came from
[21:29] <cmaloney> Name Server:NS7.MICROSOFTINTERNETSAFETY.NET
[21:29] <cmaloney> Name Server:NS8.MICROSOFTINTERNETSAFETY.NET
[21:29] <cmaloney> That's some shit.
[21:29] <mrgoodcat> but shouldn't the domains have been transferred to the government if anything?
[21:29] <rick_h__> dns is the great equalizer of the average person out there.
[21:30] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: why? private entities routinely play roles in govt work
[21:30] <cmaloney> What's the govt. going to do?
[21:31] <cmaloney> This is why I run my DNS with Linode
[21:31] <cmaloney> because if someone takes Linode down the Internet will revolt.
[21:31] <mrgoodcat> not sure if you're misunderstanding my questions, i'm not explaining myself properly, or you're answering the wrong questions on purpose but in any case nevermind. i obviously should have just let it go
[21:32] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: You're asking by what legal authority did these domains get transferred to Microsoft?
[21:32] <greg-g> you're asking why MS got control of the no-ip.org domains instead of the govt, right?
[21:32] <mrgoodcat> no
[21:32] <greg-g> "17:29 < mrgoodcat> but shouldn't the domains have been transferred to the government if anything?"
[21:32] <mrgoodcat> well no to cmaloney yes to greg-g
[21:33] <cmaloney> Because Microsoft is trying to fix the problem of malware spreading on the net
[21:33] <mrgoodcat> making the assumption that ANYONE should have gotten control (which i don't believe but i'm allowing for the sake of the argument)
[21:33] <cmaloney> so likely they're having the machines report that they're infected and need service.
[21:33] <cmaloney> or providing patches
[21:34] <greg-g> domains are taken all the time due to law breaking, just like assests are seized all the time
[21:34] <mrgoodcat> but assets are usually not given to private parties
[21:34] <mrgoodcat> if my neighbor steals some stuff, the feds don't give that stuff to me, they take it
[21:35] <mrgoodcat> unless i'm completely misunderstanding the legality of the situation
[21:35] <greg-g> sure they are, if the private party has been contracted by the govt to do that work
[21:35] <cmaloney> Likely it's because Microsoft is acting as contractor for fixing "cybersecurity" threads.
[21:35] <cmaloney> threats.
[21:35] <cmaloney> so they're getting the redirects.
[21:36] <greg-g> and isn't monetizing or otherwise gaining from the domains
[21:36] <cmaloney> Well, that we're aware of. :)
[21:36] <greg-g> as you would if you were just given joe schmoe's belongings (in your example)
[21:36] <cmaloney> "You''re machine is infected with malware and is running XP. For $99.99 we'll fix both with a lovely copy of Windows 8"
[21:37] <cmaloney> bah, I fail grammar.
[21:37] <mrgoodcat> lol
[21:37] <cmaloney> "Your..."
[22:07] <jrwren> wow?!? ubuntuask.com is a fake-overflow clone of askubuntu.com?
[23:21] <cmaloney> That's awesome.