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soeegood morning06:13
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Riddelllooking blue http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html08:40
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soeeRiddell: this is final not some RC ?08:48
Riddellah and all the soversions have changed, hense scarlett's updates last night08:49
Riddellbut I worry she missed some * off the library .install files08:55
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shadeslayerScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1328049 & https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/1327591?comments=all10:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 1328049 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update kde-workspace to 4.11.10" [Undecided,Fix committed]10:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 1327591 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Trusty) " SRU tracking bug for KDE SC 4.13.2" [Undecided,Fix committed]10:46
shadeslayerxnox: better http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/sddm/view/head:/debian/sddm.service10:59
xnoxshadeslayer: yes, but given that it is identical to the upstream systemd unit, why are you making a custom distro one? can you not install/use upstream one directly? https://github.com/sddm/sddm/blob/master/services/sddm.service.in11:01
xnoxshadeslayer: that way, for example, when upstream gainst plymouth integration support they will update the systemd unit to conflict/replace plymouth-quit and ubuntu will get it updated at the same time newer sddm gets uploaded.11:03
shadeslayerxnox: is there a dev package for systemd?11:06
shadeslayerlibsystemd-daemon-dev maybe11:10
xnoxshadeslayer: i don't understand. What do you mean by a dev package for systemd? there a multiple shared libraries and static code headers that systemd src package ships in multiple dev packages.11:11
xnoxshadeslayer: what are you after?11:11
shadeslayerxnox: cmake output from sddm http://paste.ubuntu.com/7736213/11:12
shadeslayer--   package 'systemd' not found11:12
shadeslayerand it does : pkg_check_modules(SYSTEMD "systemd")11:12
xnoxshadeslayer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=utopic&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=systemd.pc11:13
xnoxshadeslayer: that's shipped in systemd package. "systemd.pc"11:13
mparilloOn the project neon ISO from files.kde.org, is the greeter still Light DM? When my live session seemed to thrash too much, I used to ctrl alt F1, then sudo service lightdm restart, but that service was not found on the Neon ISO. Did it change?11:14
shadeslayernot sure why I didn't think of that, since I usually do that for cmake files11:14
xnoxshadeslayer: i always simply search for the "foo.pc" file name to see which package i need to build-depend. That's the most reliable way.11:14
shadeslayerxnox: right, I do that for cmake files, but didn't think of doing it for pkgconfig files11:15
apacheloggerwith rpm you can builddep on pkgconfig names :P11:18
xnoxapachelogger: which is excellent, until in debian & ubuntu we support multiple competing implementations to ship identical pkgconfig name ;-)11:22
apacheloggerpft details :P11:22
shadeslayercan someone explain what this lintian warning means : http://lintian.debian.org/tags/init.d-script-not-marked-as-conffile.html11:30
shadeslayerI have /etc/init.d/sddm.conf which is generating that warning I guess11:30
shadeslayerE: sddm: init.d-script-not-included-in-package etc/init.d/sddm < 0.o11:31
xnoxshadeslayer: per policy, one must have an init.d script, if there is an upstart and/or systemd files.11:32
xnoxshadeslayer: and if there is init.d script shipped, it must be declared as a conffile and update-rc.d called in the postinst.11:32
shadeslayernow I need to write a init script11:32
xnoxshadeslayer: for ubuntu you don't, for debian you must. I will be encouraging you to file ITP in debian and I would be willing to sponsor sddm into Debian. Thus it's mandatory to write a compatible init script.11:33
shadeslayerI have no motivation to write a init script tbh :p11:34
xnoxshadeslayer: otherwise it would be a waste of time further down the road, when someone else packages this for debian, differently from ubuntu, and someone (well, you as a touch it last) to do a complex three-way merge of diverged packaging.11:34
shadeslayernot to mention that the current init script I have is broken, since it doesn't stop sddm, and I don't know why11:35
xnoxshadeslayer: it's not that hard, you just need to copy the sceleton, fill in /usr/bin/sddm, find a DM which doesn't integrate with plymouth and copy the lsb-headers essentially11:35
xnoxshadeslayer: if you have one, I can help you debug it / review it.11:35
shadeslayerxnox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7736340/11:36
shadeslayerxnox: fwiw sddm has a bug where it doesn't kill the X server when it shuts down11:37
shadeslayerso in case you plan on debugging that script, it's useful to know that :P11:37
xnoxshadeslayer: pid should be in /run, not /var/run11:41
xnoxshadeslayer: shouldn't have -> || echo -n "already running"; why is "--background" used?; any messages should use standard message helpers log_* as those know how to correctly print to terminal, serial console, and pass messages to plymouth11:42
xnoxfailing to stop error should not be ignored11:43
xnoxnor reload11:43
xnoxrestart & force realod are broken in different ways.11:44
xnox(a) shouldn't sleep11:44
xnox(b) restart, can act on a different sddm, when that will fail 11:44
xnox(c) stop/start should be functions that can be called, instead of recalling the full init script11:45
xnoxshadeslayer: the lsb headers on top are fine.11:45
xnoxshadeslayer: i think you will have more luck with taking a clean skeleton, reuse lsb headers, reuse default display manager check11:46
xnoxshadeslayer: but otherwise write start/stop/reload/status/restart from scratch based on stock template.11:46
shadeslayerxnox: ok12:31
shadeslayer( sorry, was afk, lunching )12:31
sgclarkRiddell: good morning, sorry I was up very late fixing install files, where are we at? did you find kcoreaddons?13:17
Riddellhola sgclark 13:20
Riddellno what's up with kcoreaddons?13:21
sgclarkstill @ 4.100.013:21
sgclarkall the frameworks that dpend on it are held up looking for 5.0.013:21
* Riddell looks13:23
sgclarkRiddell: I can't for the life of me get into depot.kde.org or I would have looked myself13:24
Riddellsgclark: your ssh key is in the account for ftpubuntu@depot.kde.org13:28
Riddellsgclark: it was a patch was had been upstreamed, removed and uploaded13:28
sgclarkRiddell: oh I have recently changed my ssh key, can you  use scarlett-Lappy https://launchpad.net/~sgclark13:30
Riddellsgclark: voila13:33
sgclarkRiddell: kcoreaddons does not match what is in bazaar, and failed on install file13:51
Riddellsgclark: you want to fix or shall I?13:52
sgclarkRiddell: i can13:52
shadeslayerxnox: where would I find a skeleton init script btw14:13
yofelshadeslayer: /etc/init.d/skeleton14:14
yofelalso see /etc/init.d/README :P14:15
xnoxyofel:  ;-) two thumbs up14:15
* xnox reads it again14:15
xnoxit seems to be getting better and better, it offers more things the right way than what it did last time i looked at it ;-)14:15
ghostcubeuhh nice kdeconnect 0.7.1 works very well14:24
mcstr_is it released yet?14:30
mcstr_oh yep it is :)14:34
manchickenIs there a telepathy ktp-text-ui plugin package that I'm not seeing? Telepathy seems like it's missing a whole bunch of stuff that I could have sworn was there before.14:47
shadeslayermanchicken: kde-telepathy-text-ui14:53
shadeslayershould be the package14:53
manchickenDoes telepathy have the ability to highlight keywords and open IM windows on double-click of names in chat?14:54
shadeslayerwrong channel for support questions14:54
shadeslayeryou want #kde-telepathy14:54
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manchickenI'm just confused... I think I may have gotten the clients confused...15:00
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shadeslayeratleast my systemd unit works15:44
shadeslayeras does my init script15:44
shadeslayerxnox: for some reason plymouth doesn't quit on upstart15:45
shadeslayerso sddm doesn't start automatically15:46
xnoxshadeslayer: what's your upstart job look like?15:52
xnoxshadeslayer: it will not work at all, if you e.g. copied lightdm one.15:52
xnoxshadeslayer: as i previously told you, since lightdm stops plymouth itself. For sddm you'd need to stop plymouth instead.15:52
shadeslayerxnox: that's what I was using15:52
xnoxshadeslayer: i think we'd need to modify plymouth-stop.conf to "start on starting ssdm" to one of it's conditions.15:53
shadeslayerah yeah15:54
xnoxor ssdm pre-start should do $ start plymouth-stop JOB=ssdm15:54
shadeslayerxnox: OTOH upstart script does call plymouth quit15:54
xnoxto be compatible with previous non-modified plymouth's15:54
xnoxshadeslayer: the upstart job looks wrong.15:55
xnoxshadeslayer: the start on conditions are never satisfied, are they?15:55
shadeslayerbecause plymouth-stop is never called?15:55
xnoxand your script does not call plymouth quit.15:56
xnoxit only calls it conditionally, and you actually need to call it unconditionally.15:56
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sgclarkis anyone available to look at kauth, when I build locally the files are there.16:52
sgclarkRiddell: ^16:53
lordievaderGood evening.16:53
Riddellsgclark: let me look16:56
Riddellki18n needs some love I think16:56
Riddellalso I need a proofreader for http://kde.org/info/kde-frameworks-5.0.0.php16:56
sgclarkRiddell: ummm 16:57
sgclarkki18n 1 hour 10 minutes ago 16:57
sgclarkSuccessfully built16:57
sgclarknot sure why red16:58
Riddelloh it's not automatically updating that page16:59
RiddellI need to do it manually16:59
sgclarkahh I have fixed several16:59
sgclarkjust having issues with kauth which is the current bottleneck16:59
Riddellnow ki18n is a nice amber for new symbols17:01
Riddellsgclark: the build system for that code says # Compile only if fake backend has not been selected17:06
sgclarkRiddell: I don't know what that means :(17:07
Riddellshadeslayer: was at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/hardy/17:08
Riddellsgclark: I would guess you have somthing like polkit-qt installed so it thinks there's another backend being compiled17:08
Riddellsgclark: since no backends work for kauth and it's generally broken, we'll just not install that file17:09
* Riddell makes it so17:09
sgclarkRiddell: ahh , ok, thanks!17:09
* sgclark fixes ki18n symbols17:10
shadeslayerxnox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7737738/17:11
shadeslayerdoes that look alright?17:11
sgclarkRiddell: I have noticed etc/xdg files are beng installed in usr/etc/xdg triggering FSSTND-dir-in-usr , what is the proper way of dealing with this?17:26
shadeslayerthat sounds wrong17:28
shadeslayerwhich project?17:28
shadeslayerwhich framework?17:28
sgclarktwo so far, kservice and kauth17:29
Riddellhmm, sounds like a problem in extra-cmake-modules17:36
Riddellsgclark: your last commite to ecm removed it http://paste.kde.org/pmvwyzdwo17:39
Riddellshadeslayer: ^17:39
sgclarkRiddell: that broke the build altogether17:39
sgclarkRiddell: it needs to be adjusted or something17:39
* Riddell investigates17:39
Riddellsgclark: ecm ppa3 up with fixed patch, click rebuild on the failing packages when it's in17:57
Riddellsgclark: best not to remove patches unless you know they're no longer needed :)17:57
Riddellsgclark: where's your latest pmc?18:00
sgclarkRiddell: that patched blocked the entire build process last night, could not move forward. Sorry I made the wrong decision to be able to get some packages done18:02
Riddellsgclark: actually I think it's my fault for removing the part of the patch to the test18:03
* Riddell hangs head in shame18:03
sgclarkRiddell: it is still in https://launchpad.net/~sgclark/+archive/kubuntu-utopic18:03
Riddellsgclark: you sure? that version doesn't have the NO_LINK_PLASMA set18:05
sgclarkhmm, no I am not sure, looking18:05
sgclarkRiddell: sorry in staging https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging18:07
RiddellScottK: bug 1334595 updated with SRU for plasma-mediacentre18:26
ubottubug 1334595 in plasma-mediacenter (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update plasma-mediacenter to 1.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133459518:26
* Riddell high fives sgclark on PMC win18:26
* Riddell updates http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html18:29
Riddellsgclark: that's made with kubuntu-ppa-build-status in kubuntu-automation if you ever want to update it yourself18:29
Riddell./kubuntu-ppa-build-status -p kubuntu-ppa/next -d utopic -v 5.0.0 > build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html18:29
sgclarkRiddell: ahh ok, was wondering18:32
sgclarkRiddell: unfortunately I have to step out for an hour or so :( kio needs a rebuild once kservice posts18:33
sgclarkRiddell: nevermind looks like kservice is posting. I can get that before I go18:35
Riddellsgclark: I'm getting hungry and need to go home for my tea, ping me on gtalk or similar if you need me.  thanks for doing so much on this18:35
sgclarkRiddell: ok, have a good day, I will resume when I get back :)18:35
Quintasansgclark, Riddell: Do we have UPnP support in KDE now?20:15
shadeslayerQuintasan: yo20:26
shadeslayerQuintasan: plz review SDDM packaging20:26
Quintasanshadeslayer: \o20:26
Quintasanshadeslayer: gibe link20:26
shadeslayerwhile I learn rust20:26
shadeslayerQuintasan: git clone bzr::lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/sddm20:26
Quintasan>git clone20:27
Quintasanshadeslayer: You drunk?20:27
shadeslayerQuintasan: nope, just install git-bzr20:27
* shadeslayer uses git everywhere now20:27
Quintasanshadeslayer: wtf is rust?20:28
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://www.rust-lang.org/20:29
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://doc.rust-lang.org/master/intro.html20:29
shadeslayerawesome stuff right there ^^, with all the goodness of pattern matching magic20:29
* shadeslayer throws a keyboard at easyjet20:30
shadeslayerQuintasan: anyway, let me know what you think of SDDM20:45
shadeslayerI'll file a ITP tomorrow to get it into Debian20:45
soeedo we have latest kde connect in repos already ?20:51
Quintasansoee: In utopic yest20:52
Quintasanshadeslayer: sorry, got caught up in zillons of conversations20:53
soeeQuintasan: what about backoprts?20:53
shadeslayerit is in backports20:53
shadeslayer!info kdeconnect trusty20:53
ubottukdeconnect (source: kdeconnect): connect smartphones to your KDE Plasma Workspace. In component universe, is optional. Version (trusty), package size 265 kB, installed size 1722 kB20:53
shadeslayer!info kdeconnect trusty-backports20:53
ubottukdeconnect (source: kdeconnect): connect smartphones to your KDE Plasma Workspace. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-0ubuntu3~ubuntu14.04.1 (trusty-backports), package size 241 kB, installed size 1475 kB20:53
shadeslayersoee: sudo apt-get install kdeconnect=0.7.1-0ubuntu3~ubuntu14.04.120:53
Quintasanshadeslayer: TBH it should be a systemd unit not a init script20:54
shadeslayerQuintasan: it has all of the things20:54
shadeslayerALL of the things!20:54
shadeslayerlesspipe the deb :)20:54
QuintasanI don't see systemd unit20:54
shadeslayerthere is one20:55
Quintasannot in debian/ or I'm blind20:56
shadeslayerit's installed by upstream20:56
Quintasanshadeslayer: Anyways, no glaring mistakes I think20:56
Quintasanshadeslayer: You want me to comaintain that in Debian or you're going solo with this?20:57
shadeslayerQuintasan: I'll file the ITP tomorrow20:57
shadeslayerunless you want to do it now20:58
Quintasanshadeslayer: I'm going to take a look at it tomorrow too20:58
QuintasanSince I'm a tired like hell and might have missed something20:58
* Quintasan had two exams today20:58
soeeim on the daily snapshots of plasma-next now21:02
soeeas i said yesterday all works nice except shortcuts ;)21:03
soeefor example i can't take screenshot using prtscr button etc21:03
soeeany idea what can cause this21:03
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