[06:37] <dholbach> good morning
[10:29] <AskUbuntu_> Ubuntu Login issue | http://askubuntu.com/q/490742
[14:16] <jcastro> mhall119, good news
[14:16] <jcastro> my nexus5 is here
[14:16] <mhall119> \o/
[14:16] <jcastro> which means ... ubuntu on my N4!
[14:16] <mhall119> oh, I thought you were putting Ubuntu on the N5
[14:17] <jcastro> I am going to dual phone for a while
[15:48] <jcastro> mhall119, my phone is stuck on "waiting for device" when trying to unlock the boot loader. :-/
[15:57] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day everyone! see you tomorrow!
[15:57] <mhall119> jcastro: did you unlock the bootloader?
[15:57] <mhall119> you have to do that on the phone, ubuntu-device-flash doesn't do it for you (that I recall anyway)
[15:58] <jcastro> yeah, the waiting for the device is when I am trying to unlock the bootloader
[15:58] <jcastro> I haven't even gotten to ubuntu installation yet. :(
[16:01] <mhall119> jcastro: hmmm, it was straight forward for me, are you in the fastboot screen?
[16:02] <jcastro> weird, my phone just stop being detected when I plug it in
[16:02] <jcastro> I'm going to switch back to dalvik on it from ART, maybe some other subtle bug or crazy jorge-specificness
[16:03] <belkinsa> Happy first Wednesday everyone.
[16:03] <mhall119> happy wednesday belkinsa :)
[16:04] <belkinsa> (I hope someone got the reference unless it's a Ohio thing)
[16:05] <mhall119> must be an ohio thing, makes no sense to this floridian
[16:05] <belkinsa> I figured, since you guys don't get tornadoes
[16:06] <mhall119> we do, sometimes
[16:07] <mhall119> is this the start of tornado season or something?
[16:07] <belkinsa> Actually, It could be a Mid-west thing.  Testing Tornado Sirens on the first Wednesday.
[16:07] <mhall119> oh, ok
[16:07] <mhall119> I suppose we're lucky, at least with hurricanes we get several days notice
[16:08] <belkinsa> You are, because they come slowly up on you guys.
[16:10] <popey> We get tornadoes in the UK but the damage is usually quite localised. http://278efy3ybwg25033p1al4ib176.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/news-events/files/2011/08/130727318.jpg
[16:10] <mhall119> popey: that's tragic
[16:11] <mhall119> belkinsa: the downside of them being slow-moving is that they sit on top of you for a full day
[16:21] <jcastro> mhall119, hah! It was a bum cable
[16:21] <balloons> ping jose
[16:22] <jcastro> so the adb commands weren't even going to the phone
[16:23] <balloons> belkinsa, I'm from Ohio originally and I get it. I believe we did it the first friday of the month however
[16:24] <belkinsa> I guess it depends on what area of Ohio, that first of the month testing is
[16:24] <belkinsa> But it was at noon, right?
[16:25] <balloons> belkinsa, yep noon
[16:25] <jcastro> mhall119, who's responsible for the developer.ubuntu.com/start page? aka where do I give feedback?
[16:26] <balloons> belkinsa, this was in Northern Ohio; I lived all along the lake
[16:27] <belkinsa> Ah, I see.  I live in South Western Ohio, in th middle of  Cincinnati and Dayton
[16:27] <belkinsa> jcastro, +1, I need to give feedback too.
[16:28] <mhall119> jcastro: there's a "file a bug" link on every page
[16:28] <jcastro> ok
[16:28] <jose> balloons: pong
[16:28] <mhall119> jcastro: it was kyle working on it, but it'll have ot be someone else on the community team now
[16:28] <jcastro> ok
[16:28] <jcastro> hey also
[16:28] <jcastro> why keep the old stuff on the wiki?
[16:29] <jcastro> all that did is confuse me
[16:29] <mhall119> kyle was pulled away to work on other things, so he probably just didn't have a chance
[16:29] <jcastro> I would just delete it and redirect it to the correct instructions
[16:29] <mhall119> jcastro: is there any system where wiki pages can be proposed for deletion, and then reviewed by someone else before actually being deleted?
[16:30] <jcastro> no, only for help.u.c
[16:30] <jcastro> for wiki. you can do what you want
[16:30] <mhall119> I *want* to not touch the wiki
[16:30] <jcastro> I can do it if you want
[16:30] <jcastro> takes me 2 minutes
[16:31] <balloons> jose, I have a couple dates / times I'm hoping to snag ubuntu on air for. can you confirm / deny that I can use it :-0  7/10 @ 1900 UTC and 7/15 @ 1900 UTC
[16:31] <mhall119> jcastro: I'd like to double-check with the phone team before deleting things like that
[16:31] <jcastro> sure
[16:31] <mhall119> which is why I asked if there was a way to mark them as proposed for deleting
[16:31] <mhall119> jcastro: which specific pages did you want gone?
[16:31] <jcastro> #refresh http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[16:32] <jcastro> You can just replace the entire page with that
[16:32] <jcastro> and you'll be set
[16:32] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:32] <jcastro> this one
[16:32] <czajkowski> ello ello folks
[16:32] <jose> balloons: all of 'em available
[16:32] <jose> hey czajkowski!
[16:33] <jcastro> mhall119, even though there's a deprecation notice on the top
[16:33] <jcastro> if you give someone this URL for example
[16:33] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Manual_Download_.26_Installation
[16:34] <jcastro> mhall119, it's not a deletion per se either, it's a new revision that's a redirect, so if people want to keep the old thing around it's still in moin
[16:34] <jcastro> it's just not easily findable
[16:34] <jcastro> which I think is what we want
[16:36] <mhall119> jcastro: ok
[16:37] <jcastro> mhall119, I assume I should not even try trusty and go right to utopic?
[16:38] <mhall119> jcastro: for device images?  use "devel" channel
[16:39] <jcastro> man it's been a while, I've never seen this cool rotating ubuntu logo before
[16:39] <mhall119> that's utopic right now, but it'll point to utopic+1 when that next release is started
[16:39] <mhall119> "devel" it latest goodies that pass testing
[16:39] <mhall119> "stable" is old goodies that isn't updated anymore
[16:40] <jcastro> yeah if it's a backup phone I might as well go all in
[16:40] <mhall119> "devel-proposed" is bleeding edge, hasn't gone through testing yet
[16:40] <mhall119> devel-proposed will always give you the newest stuff, but it might also break entirely
[16:40] <jcastro> devel sounds perfect for me
[16:40] <mhall119> devel should always be safe
[16:40] <mhall119> it's what I run on my daily driver phone
[16:44] <mhall119> jcastro: redirect is in place now
[16:45] <jcastro> woo!
[16:45] <jcastro> this way you don't lose the old references from the web, they all just redirect. \o/
[16:52] <jcastro> mhall119, ok I am up and running!
[16:52] <jcastro> mhall119, is the google sync supposed to work? seems to not work
[16:53] <mhall119> jcastro: it's supposed to, did you add your google account and flip the switch for contacts and/or calendar?
[16:53] <mhall119> it might take a while the first time
[16:53] <jcastro> oh!
[16:53] <jcastro> I had to explicitly turn it on in the online accounts
[16:53] <jcastro> got it
[16:53] <mhall119> I think so, I don't remember if it defaults to on or now
[16:54] <mhall119> my calendar still isn't showing sync'd events though
[16:54] <mhall119> popey: ^^
[16:55] <popey> you have to switch it on
[16:55] <popey> and then wait
[16:55] <popey> takes a while
[16:55] <jcastro> cool, looks like it's syncing now
[16:59] <jcastro> popey is all over my UI
[16:59] <nigelb> TMI
[16:59] <jcastro> there's like "favourites" instead of favorites
[17:01] <pleia2> hehe
[17:07] <popey> Hell yeah baby!
[17:07] <popey> I mean, verily, forsooth, you are accurate my good man.
[17:35] <nigelb> popey++
[19:59] <jcastro> jono, you know what I am doing this 4th grilling wise?
[19:59] <jcastro> BISON.
[20:08] <bkerensa> o.o
[20:08] <bkerensa> jcastro: bison steak, ribs or burgers?
[20:08] <jcastro> steak and burgers
[20:09] <bkerensa> jcastro: you going to use bbqpad and put up pics? :)
[20:09] <jcastro> I don't usually track grilling
[20:14]  * mhall119 has a pork butt to smoke Saturday
[20:14] <mhall119> which means I have to get up *early* on a holiday weekend :(
[20:15] <mhall119> bison burgers sound tasty though
[20:15] <mhall119> jose: what day do you get into Orlando, that Thursday or the Wednesday before?
[20:28] <pleia2> bison is lovely, lean and not too tough <3
[20:43] <cjohnston> Bison is really good.
[20:48] <popey> bkerensa: yo, what's in the loco swag packs?
[20:48] <popey> Firefox Flame phones ㋛
[20:49] <bkerensa> popey: Well it depends by the scope of the loco event but it could be anything from stickers, buttons, wristbands all the way up to t-shirts and more
[20:49] <bkerensa> and availability of all that stuff of course
[20:50] <bkerensa> popey: no but we will be giving phones away at OSCON this year
[20:50] <bkerensa> :)
[20:50] <popey> dammit
[20:50] <popey> my flame should arrive soon I guess#
[20:51] <bkerensa> they are pretty nice compared to previous hardware
[20:51] <bkerensa> I have five of them currently
[20:52] <bkerensa> But my favorite thing is the Tablet
[20:52] <popey> yeah, i expect it to be quite a bit quicker than this orange thing
[20:53] <bkerensa> oh its blazing fast
[20:53] <bkerensa> even the boot times are amazingly faster
[20:53] <bkerensa> also now that we have the Flame.... part of this launch is that Mozilla is working with the RIL owners to hire a third party to build images daily
[20:53] <bkerensa> this was an issue that Mozilla learned from with GeeksPhone and ZTE
[20:54] <bkerensa> OEM's cannot be trusted to get images to end users on a regular timeliness
[20:54] <bkerensa> so with the Flame having the third party doing this will be very useful
[20:55] <bkerensa> and Mozilla itself unfortunately cannot distribute images due to the licensing limitations on commercial distribution of RIL
[20:55] <popey> yeah, my zte open is looking dated now
[20:55] <popey> be nice if I could update it
[20:57] <bkerensa> popey: what version are you running?
[20:58] <popey> 1.0.0B02
[20:59] <bkerensa> oh dear there is a 1.4 image available for the ZTE Open
[20:59] <bkerensa> popey: also did you see this shiny thing https://plus.google.com/115750270177636397262/posts/67afkKvSHBV
[21:02] <popey> i did, yes!
[21:03] <bkerensa> popey: gladly it doesn't play any songs ;)
[21:03] <popey> haha
[21:03] <bkerensa> popey: oh and its powered by Xubuntu
[21:03] <bkerensa> the Mac Mini's run Xubuntu
[21:06] <popey> what are the stands they sit in?
[21:06] <popey> just usb chargers?
[21:42] <jose> mhall119: I'm getting there on Thursday (Day 0) at 4pm, should clear immigrations/customs in 1h or so
[21:44] <jose> mhall119: otoh, on the CDF report it says 968 was given to me, I actually was sent 868
[21:47] <mhall119> jose: you may be overly optimistic about immigration control at MCO :)
[21:47] <jose> mhall119: oh, I've experienced LAX
[21:47] <jose> believe me, it's horrible
[21:48] <mhall119> jose: was that 868 USD?
[21:49] <jose> mhall119: yeah, I mentioned Michelle the price for the ticket was lower (as I told you too) and she sent 100 USD less
[21:49] <mhall119> ok, maybe she just didn't update the spreadsheet I used
[21:49] <mhall119> I'll check with her in the morning
[21:50] <jose> cool then :)