| didrocks | good morning | 05:49 |
|---|---|---|
| pitti | Bonjour tout le monde | 05:57 |
| pitti | hey didrocks | 05:57 |
| didrocks | bonjour pitti ! | 05:59 |
| mvo | hey seb128, good morning | 06:10 |
| seb128 | hey pitti didrocks mvo | 06:10 |
| mvo | seb128: you are here early, how come? did the sun wake you up :) ? | 06:10 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 -- c'est tôt ! | 06:11 |
| seb128 | what are you talking about? I'm an early bird! | 06:12 |
| seb128 | mvo, sun? I'm in Lyon, it's raining there | 06:12 |
| mvo | :) I am not, I'm just forced by circumstances to be one | 06:12 |
| seb128 | I blame didrocks | 06:12 |
| mvo | seb128: haha, I get it | 06:12 |
| mvo | seb128: he is responsible for the rain ;) | 06:12 |
| * mvo hugs seb128 | 06:12 | |
| * seb128 hugs mvo | 06:12 | |
| didrocks | you are mean guys | 06:13 |
| didrocks | come on, beautiful weather the whole week and now you are complaining about rain! | 06:13 |
| seb128 | Saviq, rsalveti: hey, did you coordinate on the ubuntu-system-settings landing? | 06:45 |
| rsalveti | seb128: no, was planning to respin it once my change lands, but then it got stuck temporarily because of a flaky test | 06:49 |
| rsalveti | I'm in china this week, so my timezone doesn't help much, so that's why I just went ahead | 06:50 |
| rsalveti | after making sure it wasn't breaking anything in the other landing | 06:50 |
| rsalveti | as I thought this the other landing would land yesterday, but didn't happen | 06:50 |
| seb128 | rsalveti, do you know why the suru changes didn't land yesterday? | 06:50 |
| rsalveti | seb128: no idea | 06:51 |
| seb128 | k | 06:51 |
| seb128 | let's hope your landing doesn't create too much work for Saviq then | 06:51 |
| seb128 | he's trying to land the suru transition for a while | 06:51 |
| rsalveti | it shouldn't, should be migrating to propose in a few minutes | 06:51 |
| rsalveti | sorry, to release | 06:51 |
| rsalveti | now that pitti retried the job | 06:51 |
| seb128 | right, well it still means the silo needs a rebuild | 06:52 |
| rsalveti | yup, I'm waiting it to migrate to rebuild it | 06:53 |
| rsalveti | it would be all fine it wasn't this annoying flaky test, but well | 06:53 |
| rsalveti | life is not that easy | 06:53 |
| seb128 | right | 06:54 |
| Saviq | heh... /me rebuilds settings :| | 07:15 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: what happened that this didn't land yesterday? | 07:21 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, no QA | 07:21 |
| rsalveti | sorry for the noise | 07:21 |
| rsalveti | oh, ok, hope we can land this today then | 07:21 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, yeah, just need to catch davmor2 or om26er | 07:22 |
| rsalveti | cool | 07:22 |
| seb128 | Saviq, do we need to block on qa for that? | 07:40 |
| Saviq | we don't *need* to | 07:40 |
| seb128 | but you prefer? ;-) | 07:40 |
| Saviq | but it's a significant change affecting the whole system, I just wanted to dilute the responsibility of something breaking ;P | 07:41 |
| seb128 | lol | 07:41 |
| * didrocks adds more water to Saviq's glass :) | 07:41 | |
| Saviq | isn't that what QA signoff is for? :D | 07:41 |
| seb128 | yeah, it is | 07:41 |
| seb128 | why do you think you find nowhere there to actually do the signing? | 07:41 |
| seb128 | :p | 07:41 |
| seb128 | they know what they are doing! | 07:41 |
| Saviq | :) | 07:43 |
| seb128 | (nowhere -> nobody) | 07:45 |
| Laney | morning | 08:05 |
| Laney | seb128's been up early! | 08:05 |
| seb128 | come on! | 08:05 |
| didrocks | and 5th in a row \o/ | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:05 |
| * didrocks just hopes desrt wake up and tell the same :) | 08:06 | |
| Laney | hahaha | 08:06 |
| Laney | wednesday trolling | 08:06 |
| Laney | yeah I'm good, went to a cool talk last night about how you can make people remember false things | 08:06 |
| seb128 | Laney, did you tell them about yourself remembering that you had to upload the new gtk? | 08:07 |
| Laney | :P | 08:08 |
| Laney | I'd be able to recall how we talked about that | 08:08 |
| Laney | and details of where we were, what we were eating and so on | 08:08 |
| Laney | even though it never happened | 08:08 |
| Laney | in summary: memory can suck | 08:08 |
| seb128 | so you can make people remember false things? do you have to get tem hypnotized or something? | 08:11 |
| seb128 | rsalveti, Saviq: u-s-s migrated, you can m&c and trigger a rebuild of the other silo | 08:12 |
| seb128 | oh, you had m&c before it migrated it seems | 08:13 |
| seb128 | ignore me then ;-) | 08:13 |
| Saviq | seb128, yeah, I already rebuilt ;) | 08:13 |
| * Saviq checks that it got in | 08:13 | |
| Saviq | oh no I'm not, didrocks FYI http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/citrain/silos/ is out of date :| | 08:14 |
| Saviq | k it's there | 08:15 |
| didrocks | Saviq: well, they are moving the infra without any warning or discussion and so on, so I can't follow that | 08:15 |
| Saviq | didrocks, thought so, probably best to just drop it then? | 08:15 |
| didrocks | yep, doing so | 08:15 |
| didrocks | thanks | 08:16 |
| Laney | hmm, one way she showed was to show people three true memories and one false one and ask them to talk about it (telling them that all four were true) | 08:18 |
| Laney | then at the end if you say that one of them was false sometimes people even guess the wrong one then | 08:18 |
| Laney | also you can falsify videos or pictures to make people actually believe that they did something they didn't, which is interesting for e.g. justice | 08:19 |
| seb128 | interesting indeed | 08:19 |
| Laney | apparently presenting false evidence in police interviews is allowed even today in some parts of the US(!) | 08:20 |
| seb128 | crazy country | 08:20 |
| didrocks | sil2100: as I was removing the whole citrain directory in my home folder which was out of sync (seems you changed some IP without telling me) so that people not relied on that, I deleted the whole directory | 08:23 |
| desrt | 5th in a row! | 08:23 |
| didrocks | sil2100: part of it contained the images for the buttons on the spreadsheet | 08:23 |
| didrocks | sil2100: so, I guess the spreadsheet might have lost its images | 08:24 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey, good "morning"? or are you going to bed? | 08:24 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: what IP? I didn't change any IP | 08:24 |
| larsu | seb128: probably he had a long Canada day party ;) | 08:24 |
| larsu | is dholbach in Toronto? | 08:24 |
| seb128 | larsu, yeah, sounds like it | 08:24 |
| didrocks | sil2100: the ci-train machine changed apparently | 08:24 |
| didrocks | sil2100: it doesn't respond to ping | 08:24 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: not to my knowledge | 08:24 |
| didrocks | sil2100: well, it does | 08:24 |
| sil2100 | hmm | 08:24 |
| seb128 | larsu, no, if dholbach was there, desrt would only start the party | 08:25 |
| didrocks | could have been weeks ago, you didn't keep me in the loop :) | 08:25 |
| seb128 | larsu, not be back | 08:25 |
| didrocks | but IIRC, you reinstalled it | 08:25 |
| larsu | seb128: maybe he's still getting ready :P | 08:25 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: maybe it was changed during the 'switch to a bigger disk'? | 08:25 |
| seb128 | marga, ;-) | 08:25 |
| didrocks | sil2100: can be, I didn't follow the operation | 08:26 |
| seb128 | marga, ups, sorry | 08:26 |
| seb128 | larsu, ;-) | 08:26 |
| larsu | :) | 08:26 |
| * desrt trouble sleeping | 08:26 | |
| didrocks | sil2100: so, the silos projection in my people.canonical.com didn't work | 08:26 |
| desrt | for a very very odd reason... | 08:26 |
| didrocks | sil2100: I removed the whole directory, without remembering there were those buttons… | 08:26 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: just so you know - I was not aware of the machine IP being changed, my understanding was that everything stays the same just the machine is upgraded | 08:26 |
| larsu | desrt: excited for Berlin? | 08:26 |
| didrocks | sil2100: you should probably readd some and point to another dir | 08:26 |
| didrocks | sil2100: no worry, I didn't notice before Saviq pinged me about an outdated projection | 08:27 |
| desrt | larsu: no. spent most of my holiday untangling a ball of yarn. was very satisfying, but didn't quite finish, so it's bothering me :) | 08:27 |
| didrocks | sil2100: so, just a warning for the icons, so that you know :) | 08:28 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: ok, will find some buttons then and put them in some seperate place ;) | 08:28 |
| didrocks | great! | 08:28 |
| sil2100 | Thanks! I now see they're being gone ;p | 08:28 |
| didrocks | yep, google doesn't cache them for long for sure | 08:28 |
| larsu | desrt: that's ... random. But cool! | 08:29 |
| Laney | seb128: I don't see your inline comment | 08:42 |
| Laney | is it that you wanted me to add some ()? | 08:43 |
| seb128 | lol, that was part of it ;-) | 08:43 |
| * Laney looks harder | 08:44 | |
| seb128 | Laney, sorry, I didn't click submit on the inline comment | 08:47 |
| Laney | np, it's easy to forget that | 08:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, done | 08:50 |
| Cimi | mpt, small bug: scroll wheel behaviour on sound indicator and within output volume in control center is inverted | 08:52 |
| mpt | Cimi, possibly bug 1071738 | 09:00 |
| ubot5 | bug 1071738 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "Indicator scroll event says direction UP on 12.10 even when scrolling down" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071738 | 09:00 |
| mpt | Or possibly not, if it’s happening in System Settings as well | 09:00 |
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| seb128 | larsu, ^ do you know about that? | 09:03 |
| larsu | seb128: nope. I remember fixing this last year and I can't reproduce it now | 09:06 |
| larsu | mpt: libappindicator doesn't have anything to do with the sound menu (it's for apps only) | 09:07 |
| Laney | wtf | 09:07 |
| Laney | I just replied to that | 09:07 |
| Laney | where did I do it? | 09:07 |
| * Laney is going mad | 09:07 | |
| larsu | Cimi: you seeing this on utopic? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | larsu, weird, it happens in settings for me | 09:07 |
| seb128 | but that's trusty (though with GTK 3.12° | 09:07 |
| larsu | so scrolling up moves the slider to the left? | 09:08 |
| larsu | and the other way around in the sound menu? | 09:08 |
| larsu | Laney: please don't :) | 09:08 |
| seb128 | larsu, sound menu works fine, u-c-c is reversed indeed | 09:09 |
| Laney | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407242 | 09:09 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 407242 in Widget: GtkRange "Unexpected behavior of GtkScale widgets controled by keyboard" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 09:09 |
| larsu | "controlled by keyboard" | 09:09 |
| Laney | both | 09:09 |
| larsu | seb128: woah. I have the same in _other_ panels | 09:09 |
| seb128 | gtk bog? | 09:09 |
| Laney | try using up/down or the scroll wheel | 09:09 |
| larsu | Mouse & Touchpad sliders behave the other way | 09:09 |
| larsu | I am using the scroll wheel, that's what we're talking about, no? | 09:10 |
| larsu | up/down is broken as well | 09:10 |
| Laney | It is the same for the scroll wheel and the arrow keys | 09:10 |
| Laney | that's what the bug I just linked says | 09:10 |
| larsu | okay. In the sound panel, up/down is broken but scroll wheel works | 09:10 |
| larsu | (for me) | 09:10 |
| larsu | MADNESS | 09:11 |
| Laney | all broken for me | 09:11 |
| larsu | ugh | 09:13 |
| larsu | gtk_range_set_inverted (GTK_RANGE (priv->scale), TRUE); | 09:13 |
| seb128 | key and scroll are reversed here | 09:13 |
| larsu | this is from the sound panel ^^ | 09:13 |
| ogra_ | just rename it to volume-lottery | 09:14 |
| larsu | ah, this was only for the vertical case. The panel does override scroll events though | 09:16 |
| larsu | probably it gets it wrong | 09:16 |
| Laney | Seems like a general GtkHScale bug to me | 09:17 |
| larsu | but why do different ones behave differently then? | 09:17 |
| larsu | and why do I only see the problem in the Mouse panel? | 09:17 |
| Laney | I don't know why you see that because it's not what I see, or seb from what he said | 09:18 |
| Laney | every GtkHScale in u-c-c I'm trying scrolls the same | 09:18 |
| * larsu wonders what he's doing wrong | 09:20 | |
| larsu | you guys are on utopic? | 09:20 |
| larsu | for me, everyone except the ones in sound scroll the same (wrong) way | 09:21 |
| Laney | yep | 09:21 |
| Cimi | yep | 09:24 |
| larsu | Cimi, seb128, Laney: do you have natural scrolling enabled? | 09:24 |
| Laney | the indicator is right though | 09:24 |
| seb128 | larsu, no | 09:25 |
| Cimi | no | 09:25 |
| Laney | don't think so | 09:25 |
| Laney | is that where it's always inverted? | 09:25 |
| larsu | yes, but only for touchpads iirc | 09:25 |
| larsu | gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchpad natural-scroll | 09:25 |
| Laney | yeah don't have one of those | 09:25 |
| Laney | false | 09:26 |
| larsu | hm, there's a couple of more bugs about this on gnome bugzilla | 09:38 |
| Laney | anyone noticed / investigated the appearance panel crash? | 09:39 |
| larsu | not yet, but I have it on my list. I'll try to get to it after lunch | 09:40 |
| Laney | it's okay, I think I see it | 09:41 |
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| darkxst | hey desktopers! | 10:11 |
| Laney | larsu: https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/unity-control-center/appearance-settings-schema-unref/+merge/225282 | 10:16 |
| Laney | hey darkxst, what's up? | 10:16 |
| darkxst | Laney, would you believe we had sunshine today ;) | 10:16 |
| Laney | a mere 18C, right? | 10:17 |
| darkxst | Laney, maybe 10C | 10:17 |
| Laney | you poor thing | 10:17 |
| darkxst | but first time in weeks, that sun decided to come out! | 10:17 |
| Laney | it's actually 22-23 today, this is quite summery for me | 10:18 |
| darkxst | Laney, its winter here! | 10:18 |
| Laney | 10 in winter is amusing to me | 10:18 |
| darkxst | Laney, Australian winters, you have to head 4 hours drive to get the mountains (and snow) | 10:19 |
| darkxst | or 36hours to get to the French Alps ;( | 10:19 |
| darkxst | I really should just move to europe! | 10:21 |
| Laney | do it | 10:21 |
| Laney | you're doing a PhD right? | 10:21 |
| Laney | get yourself a nice little postdoc after | 10:21 |
| darkxst | Laney, yes | 10:22 |
| darkxst | could be a go, postdoc's here are pretty dodge | 10:24 |
| larsu | Laney: cool thanks. Do you know why this didn't crash with the old glib? | 11:01 |
| larsu | I also love how the other unrefs in that function are already correct | 11:02 |
| Laney | larsu: It goes through the new g_type_check_instance_fundamentally_is_a() thing now | 11:03 |
| larsu | ah, interesring | 11:04 |
| Laney | not sure if it's meant to crash or not though | 11:04 |
| larsu | Laney: can't top-approve, sorry | 11:04 |
| Laney | what team is this? | 11:05 |
| Laney | ah | 11:05 |
| Laney | larsu: try now | 11:05 |
| larsu | works, done, thanks. | 11:06 |
| larsu | oh. firefox crashed | 11:07 |
| larsu | hasn't happened in a long time for me | 11:07 |
| Laney | I had a really bad period a month or so ago but it hasn't crashed for a while for me | 11:17 |
| Laney | I think it was an extension causing it | 11:17 |
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| darkxst | ochosi, not sure you fix is actually right, but it will do | 11:35 |
| darkxst | ochosi, fwiw, gnome-shell fallback to gnome-screensaver when used with lightdm | 11:35 |
| darkxst | so light-locker would probably be a valid option in that case, just not quite how things are setup right now | 11:36 |
| seb128 | Saviq, so, are you finding qa to test and land suru? ;-) | 11:44 |
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| xnox | Laney: seb128: what handles auto-mounting usb sticks? is that just udisks2? or not at all, and something higher (e.g. gvfs) or lower (e.g. plain udev)? | 11:54 |
| ochosi | darkxst: right. my main problem is i don't have time atm to look into the lightdm-check (even though i agree that it's the better fix), so i thought i can easily push this for the meantime and revert it once we have the better fix | 11:57 |
| ochosi | darkxst: i guess for unity it's always correct to not show/launch light-locker >=14.04 | 11:58 |
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| Saviq | seb128, it's already ACKed | 12:22 |
| Saviq | seb128, sil2100 wants to serialize with Mir, though | 12:22 |
| seb128 | sil2100, it's not friday, no need to be cautious | 12:24 |
| ogra_ | seb128, hmm, was that (football) pun intended ? | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | :) | 12:48 |
| seb128 | lol | 12:48 |
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| didrocks | mvo: hey, I was trying to be a little bit smarter on the euid of my program which is using python-apt | 13:47 |
| didrocks | mvo: I thought that the part needing root was what is under the fork() | 13:47 |
| didrocks | and so, doing a seteuid(0) in that part | 13:48 |
| didrocks | but it seems that apt.commit() needs to be root as well? | 13:48 |
| mvo | didrocks: hm, I can only think that it tries set/unset a lock | 14:00 |
| didrocks | mvo: exactly! Do you have an idea if I can seteuid(0) just before the commit and then seteuid(user)? | 14:01 |
| didrocks | mvo: and in the fork() I seteuid(0) again | 14:01 |
| mvo | didrocks: not from the top of my head, need to look at the source first | 14:02 |
| didrocks | mvo: hum, doesn't seem to work | 14:03 |
| didrocks | oh, maybe I know | 14:04 |
| didrocks | let me try something | 14:04 |
| didrocks | yeah, I can just "swandwich" the commit() call with those | 14:05 |
| didrocks | mvo: that would be good enough for now, thanks ;) | 14:05 |
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| seb128 | oh, Laney doing landings, nice | 14:44 |
| seb128 | I had a "wth" moment when I saw robert_ancell mp going "merged" ;-) | 14:44 |
| Laney | heh | 14:45 |
| Laney | might as well use the powers ;-) | 14:45 |
| seb128 | that's the spirit! | 14:45 |
| Laney | it's much nicer when you can do the whole thing yourself | 14:46 |
| seb128 | indeed | 14:47 |
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| Laney | you going to do a u-s-s one? | 14:53 |
| Laney | did the icons happen? | 14:53 |
| GunnarHj | Hi seb128 | 15:03 |
| seb128 | hey GunnarHj | 15:04 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Talked with infinity about bug 1308771. He didn't see any problem with the new binaries. Any chance you could upload? | 15:05 |
| ubot5 | bug 1308771 in openoffice.org-hyphenation (Ubuntu Trusty) "Update Swedish spellcheck and hyphenation dictionaries" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308771 | 15:05 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, can you just add it in the sponsoring queue? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | but I can have a look tomorrow if nobody pick it up before | 15:05 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: It has been there for a loong, loong time.. But tomorrow is ok. | 15:06 |
| seb128 | right, it was blocked on SRU team to ack the change as being ok for a SRU though | 15:06 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I added the IRC conversation as a bug comment. | 15:07 |
| seb128 | that's useful, thanks | 15:07 |
| Laney | darkxst: I'm testing your stuff | 15:25 |
| Laney | the only problem I see now is that the monitors are the wrong way aroudn | 15:25 |
| Laney | around | 15:25 |
| Laney | x and y look right in monitors.xml | 15:28 |
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| === fredp` is now known as fredp | ||
| Laney | darkxst: if I use xrandr to set the position it gets fixed | 16:25 |
| Laney | looks like there's a problem applying the monitors.xml config | 16:25 |
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| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| Laney | night! | 17:02 |
| === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox | ||
| eridu | hello, is this an appropriate channel for unity shell bug reports? | 17:52 |
| eridu | I'd report on launchpad but it seems to be a regression and I'd like help firetesting it a bit first | 17:53 |
| sarnold | eridu: there's also an #ubuntu-unity that might work | 17:57 |
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| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
| psusi | so I'm trying to figure out how the desktop session hangs together... lightdm, gnome-session, etc.. and looking at all their config files I can't see how init --session and dbus and such are run... it looks like the only thing they start is compiz+unity-settings daemon or gnome-settings-daemon+gnome-shell.. what gives? | 23:10 |
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