[00:00] <Ben64> i'd suggest reinstalling xubuntu, from an actual cd or dvd
[00:00] <Jordan_U> jay_: I understand that, but that doesn't make #ubuntu an appropriate place to vent. This channel is for support, and having it cluttered with other discussion hinders that (and prevents people from specifically wanting to look back at all of your many messages to see what has and hasn't already been tried, because there's so much extraneous reading needed).
[00:00] <jay_> i don't have a live CD sorry Ben
[00:00] <jay_> I understand Jordan_U
[00:00] <mulkits> Ok. So I am using wireless now on my PC via my Android phone which connects to the house wifi.
[00:01] <mulkits> I plugged the phone in and engaged the "tethering" function
[00:01] <jay_> I can reinstall Xubuntu. I know my md5 matched and is good
[00:01] <mulkits> And it worked without any other configuration
[00:01] <jay_> does it matter that I didn't have it plugged into ethernet while installing?
[00:01] <Ben64> jay_: i'd really recommend getting a blank cd/dvd and installing that way. you seem to have a lot of problems with usb install
[00:01] <mulkits> That shouldn't matter
[00:01] <eeee> jay_: follow what Jordan_U suggested... the integrity check
[00:02] <jay_> eeee: do you mean the md5? i already checked that
[00:02] <jay_> I don't know how to check a USB stick for stability though
[00:02] <Jordan_U> jay_: You haven't checked your flash drive though.
[00:02] <eeee> no, it's a check on the usb/cd itself with the iso installed in it
[00:02] <jay_> ohhhh
[00:03] <jay_> how is this done?
[00:03] <Jordan_U> jay_: You do that by selecting the integrity check option that is (hopefully) in the LiveUSB's boot menu.
[00:03] <user1_> I cannot see any wifi network connectivity options. I am only able to connect by wired ones. the wireless option is grayed up. What can be the reason?
[00:03] <jay_> ohhh that thing. i've done that before but will load it on and do it again
[00:04] <irssi> hello, I am looking for experience feedback on installing ubuntu on Western Digital hard drives with the advanced format. Problem or not?
[00:04] <eeee> jay_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[00:04] <eeee> jay_: i think you have to press a key while it boots to access the menu
[00:05] <jay_> ok. you know i have Xubuntu right?
[00:05] <eeee> i think ubuntu boots straight into the "try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu" window if you dont press anything
[00:05] <jay_> that's for regular ubuntu. is that going to be different?
[00:05] <eeee> yeah i know, it should be the same though
[00:05] <jay_> okies cool
[00:06] <jay_> ok i'm loading on the USB again with Unetbootin
[00:07] <jay_> then, i'll go and check it on the other pc. the integrity check
[00:07] <jay_> then, i'll likely come back and complain somemore (but only if there's a problem and i need help  :)
[00:08] <jay_> i wish i could be like, Linux rocks! everything just worked for me!
[00:08] <jay_> maybe soon eh?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> jay_: Be sure that you're running the check on the machine you plan to install to.
[00:08] <jay_> i will Jordan_U
[00:09] <user1_> I cannot see any wifi network connectivity options. I am only able to connect by wired ones. the wireless option is grayed up. What can be the reason?   $ lspci -nn | grep 0280           08:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01)
[00:11] <jay_> Unetbootin said it might not have finished correctly. i'm going to try LiLi USB Creator instead
[00:12] <Jordan_U> jay_: What was the exact error message? This may be related to the problems you've been having.
[00:13] <jay_> i dunno now cause i closed it. i'm trying it with LiLi USB Creator. it says this version isn't in it's library but will try to install with similar parameters
[00:13] <wooter> user1_: i'd try install a driver http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103062
[00:13] <user1_> hm
[00:14] <user1_> isnt there a package that has all the drivers?
[00:15] <jay_> Jordan_U: it says "This Linux is not on the compatibility list. However, LinuxLive USB Creator will try to use same install parameters as for Xubuntu 14.04 "Trustu Tahr" (Xfce)"
[00:16] <PurpleHaze> jay_ you having problems with secure boot?
[00:16] <jay_> is there a different program for creating a bootable usb that is really good for linux?
[00:16] <jay_> not that i know of PurpleHaze
[00:16] <eeee> PurpleHaze: not what is going on here, he can't install any packages after a fresh install.
[00:16] <Sunstream> wow
[00:16] <jay_> I've already tried Pendrive, Unetbootin and LiLi USB Creator
[00:17] <Glorfindel> use rufus if you are on windows jay_
[00:17] <Zerodeamon> yumi
[00:17] <Glorfindel> I've never had a problem
[00:17] <Sunstream> I could not close Firefox i had to do ctrl+alt+prtsc and the code to reboot
[00:17] <jay_> they all are kinda stupid programs in the way that, they don't use the parameters from the ISO, they use the ones in their internal list
[00:18] <jay_> oh i tried Yumi too zero
[00:18] <jay_> I just forgot about it
[00:18] <jay_> yumi worked for some older distro's but not for newer ones
[00:18] <ajf> I’m trying to mount a VirtualBox Guest Additions dir
[00:18] <eeee> Sunstream: the desktop crashed or just firefox?
[00:18] <ajf> But
[00:18] <Jordan_U> jay_: What is the md5sum of your iso?
[00:18] <ajf> When I mount it, it’s root-owned
[00:18] <jay_> already checked it Jordan
[00:18] <ajf> What do I do so my user can use it?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> jay_: I want to know what it is to be sure what image you're using.
[00:19] <PurpleHaze> jay_ sou you cant install anything? Have you tried clearing the apt cache?
[00:19] <eeee> ajf: run the installer with sudo
[00:19] <eeee> it needs sudo anyway to install i think
[00:20] <jay_> ae446659057ee49e57773bf446398856
[00:20] <ajf> that’s not what I need help with
[00:20] <jay_> that's fro winmd5free
[00:20] <jay_> from*
[00:20] <JetPackKittens> hello
[00:20] <jay_> PurpleHaze: I'm a newb. i don't know anything about the terminal commands
[00:20] <ajf> eeee: I’m mounting something. It’s mounted as root:root, I want it mounted as my user
[00:21] <Jordan_U> jay_: What is the file named? (I'm trying to figure out why these tools don't recognise it as being Xubuntu 14.04).
[00:21] <PurpleHaze> jay_ sorry Ive come in mid support , whats the problem you have?
[00:21] <jay_> I have an understanding of how booting works, how computers work, and about the general concepts of linux (like the package management that gets verified before going into the repositories), but terminal commands are gibberish to me
[00:22] <jay_> file name is xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64
[00:22] <eeee> ajf: run chown <user> <folder> to change the permissions
[00:22] <jay_> problem is my wifi doesn't work and the cause is apparently, that I can't install anything at all
[00:23] <jay_> like synaptic for example
[00:23] <Jordan_U> jay_: That's the correct name too, so I don't know why the tools aren't recognising it.
[00:23] <PurpleHaze> jay_ during the install?
[00:23] <jay_> I dunno Jordan_U lol i seem to have problems here than no one else has ever had before
[00:23] <eeee> ajf: nevermind
[00:24] <jay_> try it yourself maybe Jordan_U?
[00:24] <jay_> i don't think it's just my pc? i've downloaded Unetbootin and LiLI USB Creator in different ocassions
[00:24] <ajf> I’m mounting something. It gets mounted as root. How do I mount it as my user?
[00:25] <ajf> Mounting with “mount”, that is
[00:25] <jay_> i'm pretty sure the software isn't up to date with current version even though it says it is
[00:26] <PurpleHaze> jay_ so your trying to get isolinux to boot from a usb ?
[00:26] <jay_> If there is another way to make a USB bootable i'd be happy to explore it.
[00:26] <eeee> ajf: you can edit the fstab
[00:26] <ajf> eeee: That the only way? Anyway, it doesn’t matter now
[00:26] <PurpleHaze> jay_ isolinus/syslinux
[00:27] <jay_> When one guy helped me, he told me the problem is that the syslinux and isolinux the installer use aren't from the ISO image. he said they're from a database that the software has. it could be outdated and that could be why it doesn't recognize the newer versions of distro's
[00:27] <jay_> I'm trying to get a ISO to boot from a USB
[00:27] <PurpleHaze> jay_ what you using (unetbootin?) what iso you using?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> jay_: Are you still waiting for one of these tools to finish?
[00:28] <jay_> file name is xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64 (ISO)
[00:28] <jay_> nope i'm not waiting on anything
[00:28] <jay_> just advice hehe
[00:28] <Jordan_U> jay_: Did one of the tools finish?
[00:28] <guest0292> Just wondering if ubuntu amd-64 bit packages are compiled to take full advantage of the registers on a 64bit cpu.  I'm using AMD E-300 APU (64 bit) with Lubuntu 13.06 amd-64 and to be honest it's really slow and freezes up when firefox, inkscape, pinta and pcmanfm running together.
[00:28] <jay_> Unetbootin or LiLi. i have both downloaded PurpleHaze
[00:29] <PurpleHaze> jay_ are you using the first or second option for iso?
[00:29] <jay_> Should I try the 32 bit version? even tho that might slow things down at times?
[00:29] <Jordan_U> jay_: Did one of the tools finish?
[00:29] <user1_> wooter,  and that is a compaq driver. not dell
[00:29] <jay_> I'm using the ISO option. not pulling a new download each time cause that'd be a waste of data Pumpkin-_ RaMcHiP
[00:29] <jay_> PurpleHaze:
[00:30] <jay_> Jordan_U:  no. I canceled it. which one do you want me to use?
[00:30] <PurpleHaze> jay_ if you use the first option it tries to download, if you select the second option you can use a local iso
[00:30] <ajf> Hmm
[00:30] <ajf> Can you cd into a symlink without having bash follow it?
[00:30] <ajf> I want .. to act as if it’s in the place the symlink’s in
[00:30] <jay_> I usually use the second option cause i get the ISO from the website of the distro
[00:31] <wooter> user1_: same atheros chipset
[00:31] <Jordan_U> jay_: Follow these instructions: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:31] <PurpleHaze> jay_ and its freezing or erroring?
[00:31] <user1_> isnt there a package that has all the drivers?
[00:31] <user1_> wooter, ^
[00:31] <PurpleHaze> jay_ or just the boot dont work?
[00:31] <wooter> not sure mate
[00:32] <jay_> LiLi USB Creator is fine. it just uses similar parameters for the installation. Unetbootin sometimes* gives errors but not always
[00:33] <PurpleHaze> jay_ so you can create the usb iso without error?
[00:34] <PurpleHaze> jay_ usually unetbootin struggles with isos that havwe been created to boot using syslinux
[00:34] <jay_> most times PurpleHaze  there are no errors. I'm doing the pendrive thing Jordan_U
[00:35] <jay_> how are you suppose to know is an ISO uses syslinux to boot? remember, i am very NEW lol
[00:35] <PurpleHaze> jay_ Ive created a custom livecd based on Gentoo once I made it boot using syslinux iso style unetbootin created the isos ok but they wouldnt boot
[00:35] <Jordan_U> jay_: Once you've done the integrity check we'll know we have a solid starting point, until then there are too many possible problems, so please keep your focus on accomplishing that for now.
[00:36] <jay_> ok cool
[00:36] <jay_> it's 50% done jordan
[00:36] <PurpleHaze> jay_ you would need to mount the iso and list the files before could advise more
[00:37] <PurpleHaze> jay_ its usually /syslinux and its syslinux.cfg you want
[00:37] <jay_> i would love to keep working on this sometime soon guys. i'll check the file for integrity on the other pc that it's going to be installed onto. I have to leave soon though. i'm going to watch the fireworks for Canada Day downtown
[00:38] <jay_> pendrive completed without errors
[00:38] <jay_> so far so good
[00:38] <jay_> have a good night guys. i'll probably be back tomorrow
[00:39] <Jordan_U> jay_: If the integrity check passes, try installing while connected to the internet via ethernet (if you can).
[00:39] <ajf> Hmm
[00:39] <ajf> Say I make a hard link to a directory
[00:39] <jay_> ok thanks Jordan_U
[00:39] <ajf> How do I remove that hard link without destroying the dir’s contents?
[00:40] <PurpleHaze> so he could boot?
[00:40] <DaveyG> Hi all.
[00:40] <PurpleHaze> hi dave
[00:40] <DaveyG> hi PurpleHaze, hows it going.
[00:41] <PurpleHaze> DaveG: its going Linux
[00:42] <DaveyG> That i would guess would be something your interested in!
[00:42] <DaveyG> ive just found sshfs
[00:42] <Ben64> ajf: hard link not allowed for directory
[00:43] <ajf> damnit
[00:43] <DaveyG> Mazing!
[00:43] <ajf> :P
[00:44] <PurpleHaze> Linux keeps setting milestones with file systems or FS over network
[00:45] <DaveyG> Anyone setup ?this "short-stroke" on there hdd
[00:46] <PurpleHaze> hmm is that php short code?
[00:46] <DaveyG> Linux always sets challenges for us lovers to keep us interested.
[00:47] <DaveyG> Well thats how it treats me anyway.
[00:47] <DaveyG> me PurpleHaze? php?
[00:48] <PurpleHaze> Its the perfect OS it lets the hacker do what they want , its also easy to use for noobs (unstable releases may be different)
[00:49] <PurpleHaze> I remember first using Linux it was .configure; make; make install and good luck removing it, no yum install or aptitude install never mind software center
[00:49] <DaveyG> It was my interest in hacking that got me into linux in the begining.
[00:50] <PurpleHaze> DaveyG yeah so many blue screens and registry hacking gets kindas boring
[00:50] <DaveyG> Building from source for me is always a mine field. miss one dependant and everything falls apart.
[00:51] <DaveyG> Wifi sec was what got my interest in the first place PurpleHaze
[00:51] <PurpleHaze> package managers do it all now very well, RHEL/Fedora suck badly for desktop packages
[00:51] <quem> my printer is no longer installable in ubuntu 14.04.
[00:52] <DaveyG> Im sure with enough effort you can get it working again quem
[00:53] <PurpleHaze> quem if your printer doesent work wil be because its not compiled in the kernel, is it a new or old printer?
[00:54] <DaveyG> Or get a pi and run a print server.
[00:54] <PurpleHaze> I remeber the days when drivers werent handled byh the kernel that was dependency hell
[00:54] <quem> it's a Samsung ML-1610W. Ubuntu finds it alright, but stalls during the installation of its driver (splix)
[00:55] <quem> used it with many previous versions of Ubuntu without any trouble.
[00:55] <PurpleHaze> is it a propreitary driver?
[00:55] <quem> no, it's free software.
[00:58] <irssi> hello, I am looking for experience feedback on installing ubuntu on Western Digital hard drives with the advanced format. Problem or not?
[00:58] <DaveyG> does the printer have wifi or cat5 connections quem
[00:58] <quem> i've always used it through wifi.
[00:58] <PurpleHaze> quem you say you install drivers Ive not done that in any distro for years, you sure its not the propritary driver menu?
[00:58] <quem> it has cat5 too.
[00:58] <DaveyG> Have a look at this, http://www.bartbania.com/linux-2/cups-raspberry-printer/
[00:58] <DaveyG> if you have a pi laying around it might help
[00:58] <quem> PurpleHaze: yeah, quite sure. it clearly states that the driver is free software when it asks.
[00:59] <jcstarken> Have a question about drm video in 14.04 firefox what channel do I need thank you
[00:59] <Jordan_U> irssi: Does it present a 512 logical sector size or 4KiB? (Note, I am *not* asking about the physical sector size)
[00:59] <DaveyG> whats your issue jcstarken
[00:59] <Phelon> Greets.  I am trying to use subversion on my Ubuntu Server but when I am unable to commit.  I am how ever able to check out.  I have added my user to the subversion group and the subversion group does have read/write in the folder permissions.   Could anyone point me to where I might be going wrong?
[01:00] <jcstarken> DaveyG: I have installed pepper flash and hal and deleted the Nativecache dir and I still can not get amazon prime video to work
[01:01] <quem> PurpleHaze: ubuntu downloads the driver from the splix website, and i get the impression they don't support 14.04 yet..
[01:01] <DaveyG> Ive never tried getting prime to work.
[01:01] <jcstarken> DaveyG: I had it working in 12.04 but then went to mint 17 for awhile got board and prefer ubuntu so install 14.04 and can not get it for the life of me
[01:01] <PurpleHaze> quem if its downloading from the source thats a good chance
[01:03] <jcstarken> DaveyG: Hulu youtube all work just not amazon
[01:03] <jcstarken> DaveyG: and I know it will because most of the repos for mint 17 are the trusty ones
[01:04] <PurpleHaze> Gentoo FTW
[01:04] <DaveyG> You in the US jcstarken
[01:04] <jcstarken> DaveyG: yes
[01:04] <DaveyG> oh.
[01:05] <DaveyG> i wonder if amazon prime is trying to use silverlight rather than flash or html5
[01:06] <jcstarken> DaveyG: I have no idea I had it working in mint 17 with out that so I do not think so
[01:06] <apeoid> ahoy.  I just downloaded the 64-bit ubuntu 14.04 off ubuntu.com and the file says ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso     why does it say AMD?
[01:07] <apeoid> I did not select the mac version
[01:07] <DaveyG> As a short term fix you could consider running virtualbox in linux
[01:07] <jcstarken> DaveyG: ok thank you
[01:08] <quem> apeoid: amd64 is the same as x64 or x86_64.
[01:08] <Geo> apeoid: AMD doesn't mean mac
[01:09] <apeoid> when I click the drop down menu "choose your flavor" it says 64-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit Mac (AMD64) so you understand my concern
[01:09] <quem> apeoid: intel's first 64 bit processors were not backwards compatible with x86 and weren't very successful. amd's 64 bit standard was, so intel adopted it too
[01:09] <apeoid> ah ok... thank you I wanted to check that before I burned iso
[01:10] <quem> unless you have a mac or decade old pc, the amd64 iso is what you want.
[01:11] <apeoid> ok
[01:11] <quem> the 32-bit one will run too though, but presumably slower.
[01:12] <Zerodeamon> I have a 25yr old pc
[01:12] <apeoid> I have a 10 year old one that sounds like a vacuum cleaner
[01:12] <apeoid> and I have to put it on its side for it to boot
[01:12] <apeoid> or, if it's already on its side, I have to stand it back up
[01:12] <Zerodeamon> um a vaccume cleaner sound usually means you have a powerloop
[01:13] <apeoid> just cooling fans
[01:13] <Zerodeamon> yeah
[01:13] <Zerodeamon> a power loop on the fan
[01:14] <apeoid> it's not all the time full blast
[01:15] <Zerodeamon> my suggest = check your P4 connectors
[01:16] <apeoid> any idea why I can't boot to a usb hard drive?
[01:17] <ianorlin> apeoid does it show up in bios or uefi
[01:17] <apeoid> I installed a xubuntu distribution off live DVD with the other hard drives disconnected
[01:17] <apeoid> yeah
[01:17] <apeoid> shows up in uefi
[01:17] <apeoid> says insert media or hangs on the splash
[01:17] <ianorlin> oh uefi did you create a /boot partition
[01:18] <apeoid> yes I selected the drive to make a boot
[01:18] <apeoid> I did that with the other drives connected, then I disconnected the drives and tried again
[01:19] <apeoid> that's why I'm trying a different fork now
[01:22] <jcstarken> DaveyG: I GOT IT!!!
[01:26] <irssi> hello, I am looking for experience feedback on installing ubuntu on Western Digital hard drives with the advanced format. Problem or not?
[01:27] <Radzell> Hey everytime I press my mousepad the pp switcher for unity pops up.
[01:27] <Radzell> The alt-tab one how do I remove that option
[01:28] <Radzell> How do I diable alt-tab switch for the touchpad. I think it comes upwhen I trple tap
[01:31] <Jordan_U> irssi: I'm still waiting for you to answer my question.
[01:33] <unclescratchie> trying to play on pogo, says I need to update Adobe Flash,  system is up to date. What could be the problem please!
[01:34] <unclescratchie> oh I am using Chomium too
[01:48] <ricardo_> hy
[01:52] <irssi> Jordan_U: sorry, I did not see your answer. Yes, it is the transition from 512 to 4092b
[01:53] <Zerodeamon> 512B
[01:54] <irssi> Zerodeamon: why ?
[01:56] <apeoid> when I try to boot ubuntu on a hard drive connected on USB 3.0, it just hangs at the UEFI splash screen
[01:56] <apeoid> no fun
[01:57] <irssi> apeoid: watch your settings bios / UEFI
[01:58] <irssi> and perhaps the secure boot
[01:58] <apeoid> I futzed with all of it and tried and tried
[01:58] <irssi> this crap ...
[01:59] <apeoid> I'm going to see if the asus mobo has some issues
[01:59] <Jordan_U> irssi: Ubuntu should handle 4KiB logical sectors, but it's likely that your boot firmware will not support booting from it. That said, it's also unlikely that your drive actually exposes a logical sector size of 4K.
[02:00] <irssi> So I have to change my motherboard?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> irssi: What makes you think that your drive exposes 4KiB logical sectors?
[02:03] <Jordan_U> irssi: Just knowing that it's "Advanced format" doesn't tell you if it presents 4KiB sectors logically to the host, and most "Advanced Format" drives don't.
[02:05] <irssi> Jordan_U: it is marked on the hard disk documentation for sale
[02:05] <Jordan_U> irssi: What is?
[02:06] <irssi> I want to change the hard drive and I hesitate if I can use a disk that uses the advanced format because I understand that there were problems with Linux.
[02:07] <tpw_rules> irssi: i've never had a problem with such drives in ubuntu. i have an encrypted raid with mdadm and luks made out of four of them, plus a fifth for the boot drive
[02:07] <irssi> http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-interne-2-5-pouces/western-digital-wd-blue-2-5-sata-iii-6-gb-s-500-go-7mm-92910.html
[02:07] <tpw_rules> how it works is the drive has 4KiB sectors inside of it, but it still says 512B to the host
[02:07] <irssi> tpw_rules: good news, what ubuntu version ?
[02:08] <tpw_rules> like 9.04 through 14.04 it hasn't broken
[02:09] <Jordan_U> irssi: Nowhere on that page do I see it stated that the drive presents 4KiB sectors to the host, only that it uses "Advanced Format".
[02:12] <Jordan_U> irssi: The WD Blue does *not* present 4KiB sectors to the host, it presents 512 byte logical sectos even though it has 4KiB physical sectors.
[02:12] <irssi> the installation seems to be a problem
[02:12] <irssi> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Format
[02:13] <irssi> ah okay, for the system does not change. This is simply for internal HDD
[02:13] <tpw_rules> okay now that i've upgraded to 14.04, i can't vpn anymore
[02:13] <tpw_rules> vnc rather
[02:14] <Jordan_U> irssi: Correct. For best performance you still want to have partitions aligned to MiB boundaries, but Ubuntu has been doing that by default for many years (longer than Windows has IIRC).
[02:14] <apeoid> oooooooh I see.  the dvd drive booted in legacy bios mode
[02:14] <apeoid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:15] <irssi> Thank you for this information and for your patience! Jordan_U and tpw_rules
[02:16] <apeoid> how should I format a drive for ubuntu 64 bit linux
[02:16] <apeoid> or should I present a simple volume ntfs
[02:16] <Jordan_U> apeoid: I would recommend just letting Ubuntu's installer handle partitioning for you.
[02:16] <tpw_rules> apeoid: you will need to go into your bios to switch legacy emulation off if that's your concern
[02:16] <DaveyG> dual boot apeoid or just linux?
[02:17] <apeoid> well I have a new 3 gig barracuda and external enclosure with usb 3.0
[02:17] <apeoid> so I would hopefully like to install ubuntu on that drive and leave windows alone completely
[02:17] <DaveyG> Jordan_U has a good point there.
[02:17] <apeoid> so I want to have a bootable usb external hard drive
[02:18] <DaveyG> As far as i know you will have too change the windows mbr on the main hard drive what ever you do
[02:18] <DaveyG> Oh i see.
[02:20] <rambo123456> Hi Ubuntuers.  I'm getting the following error when loading emacs
[02:20] <rambo123456> Error while loading 50dictionaries-common: Symbol's value as variable is void: debian-aspell-only-dictionary-alist
[02:20] <DaveyG> Ive always had issues doing that.  You can use a usb boot key to load linux and mount the portable drive as a storage drive. if you look into linux uid i think you should be able to tell the boot key to always load that hard drive under the same mount path.
[02:21] <rambo123456> Im using ubuntu 14.04.  Any ubuntu emacs user worked about this?
[02:21] <DaveyG> What you trying to install rambo123456
[02:22] <holstein> rambo123456: try loading as a different user..
[02:22] <DaveyG> I had simular issues with 14 does 12 work?
[02:29] <vladfi1> I can't seem to uninstall wine
[02:30] <vladfi1> apt-cache policy says Installed: (none)
[02:30] <vladfi1> but wine is still in /usr/bin/wine
[02:30] <joseluis64> I have aproblem with KDE dolphin, I can't figure out how to run executables... when I click on executable files it pops out "open with" dialog
[02:31] <xangua> !appdb | joseluis64
[02:32] <holstein> vladfi1: you can type "wine" in a terminal, and you'll see something run..
[02:32] <vladfi1> yes
[02:32] <DogBallFish> YOU UNBANNED ME  YAY!!!!
[02:32] <vladfi1> I see the wine help
[02:32] <DogBallFish> Thank you.
[02:32] <joseluis64> I'm not talking about wine
[02:33] <DogBallFish> Is it possible to download and install ubuntu using terminal I know you can do it with xubuntu but can you?
[02:33] <krustyklimber> hi... I am trying to restore my sound.... using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting I've determined it's only this user profile that's affected.... how do I restore the default setting, thanks
[02:33] <joseluis64> not everybody talks about wine, please consider that.
[02:33] <vladfi1> the problem is that apt seems to think that wine is not installed
[02:33] <DogBallFish> sudo apt-get ubuntu-?
[02:34] <vladfi1> yet there is a wine in my /usr/bin
[02:34] <vladfi1> I suppose I could just remove it
[02:34] <xangua> DogBallFish: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dektop
[02:34] <DogBallFish> Thank you.
[02:34] <DaveyG> or try purge command to remove wine and start fresh?
[02:34] <vladfi1> I have tried purge
[02:34] <vladfi1> apt-get purge wine
[02:35] <joseluis64> how may run an exceutable from KDE dolphin?
[02:35] <DogBallFish> vlad
[02:35] <DogBallFish> vladfil: try: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:35] <DogBallFish> Re do it
[02:35] <vladfi1> well
[02:35] <joseluis64> xangua i'm not talking about wine.
[02:35] <vladfi1> before I do that, I want to make sure there is no existing winer
[02:35] <vladfi1> wine
[02:35] <vladfi1> otherwise I will have two versions
[02:36] <joseluis64> I only wnat to run unetbootin, but I does not run it just pops out a window "open with"
[02:36] <DogBallFish> vladfil: it will update it
[02:36] <vladfi1> well it currently thinks it is not there
[02:36] <vladfi1> before I removed wine
[02:36] <vladfi1> I was in the odd state of wine --version saying 1.7.17 and apt-cache policy saying 1.7.20
[02:36] <DogBallFish> vladfil: what version or distro of ubuntu are you running?
[02:36] <vladfi1> 14.04
[02:37] <DogBallFish> Hmm
[02:37] <holstein> vladfi1: if you manually installed wine, the package manager wont "see" it..
[02:37] <DogBallFish> I am on Ubuntu Studio 14.04 so I might not be able to help sorry
[02:37] <vladfi1> hm
[02:37] <vladfi1> I just did an apt-get autoremove
[02:38] <vladfi1> and apparently wine1.7 got removed
[02:38] <holstein> vladfi1: ? whats the question? that *is* what that command is intended to do..
[02:38] <vladfi1> well
[02:38] <vladfi1> apt-get remove wine wasn't working
[02:38] <vladfi1> but apt-get autoremove apparently did
[02:38] <vladfi1> ok now wine is gone
[02:39] <DogBallFish> How do I set SeLinux to Disabled?
[02:40] <DogBallFish> would it be
[02:40] <DogBallFish> Sudo apt-get remove SeLinux?
[02:41] <DogBallFish> !SeLinux
[02:42] <DogBallFish>  
[02:42] <DogBallFish> Hey
[02:43] <DaveyG> hey DogBallFish
[02:43] <DogBallFish> Hello?
[02:43] <DogBallFish> Oh hi
[02:43] <holstein> DogBallFish: ubuntustuduio ships the lowlatency kernel, but you can run the generic if you want/need
[02:43] <DogBallFish> I have a question
[02:43] <DaveyG> would you like me to ask you for your question?
[02:43] <DaveyG> press 1 for yes 2 for no. lol
[02:43] <holstein> DogBallFish: you can also make your own kernel with or without se linux or whatever you please
[02:44] <DogBallFish> Nvm I was getting an error but there was a bypass
[02:44] <holstein> DogBallFish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[02:45] <DaveyG> Ah its seems there is more chance that you could help me than me helping you!
[02:45] <DogBallFish> holstein: I ran the sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop does that only change the desktop or can I change it into full ubuntu?
[02:45] <holstein> DogBallFish: you mean, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" ?
[02:45] <DogBallFish> Yes
[02:46] <krustyklimber> hi... I am trying to restore my sound.... using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting I've determined it's only this user profile that's affected.... how do I restore the default setting, thanks
[02:46] <holstein> DogBallFish: as i stated before, you have a different kernel, and many other tweaks..
[02:46] <DogBallFish> Hang on I gotta reboot for the new desktop
[02:47] <DaveyG> newbie question, what command do people use mostly to search for a file from cli?
[02:48] <holstein> DaveyG: http://www.howtoforge.com/finding-files-on-the-command-line
[02:48] <Hilikus> if i plug my samsung galaxy S3 i can see my phone on nautilus and browse it but if i try to copy something to it it says touch: cannot touch ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:host=%5Busb%3A002%2C008%5D/Phone/Sounds/asa’: Operation not supported
[02:48] <Hilikus> i would expect such an old phone to work without a problem
[02:48] <Hilikus> am i missing something?
[02:48] <DaveyG> thanks holstein
[02:49] <DaveyG> does the find command need refreshing or does it search everything new?
[02:50] <DaveyG> sometimes i dont get the results i thought i would get.
[02:50] <holstein> Hilikus: is the device functional in any supported operatating systems? can you read data without issue?
[02:50] <Hilikus> let me try in windows
[02:51] <g146m026> find . |grep 'foo'
[02:52] <DogBallFish> Whats better, ubuntu, xubuntu or lubuntu?
[02:52] <DaveyG> Does find use the dbupdate something or will it find any file even if its new.
[02:52] <Holstein_> Holstein: :3
[02:53] <g146m026> Linuxmint :P
[02:53] <Holstein_> Does linuxmint support multiple desktops?
[02:53] <somsip> !mint | Holstein_
[02:53] <g146m026> linuxmint is ubuntu based
[02:53] <DaveyG> ive tried ubuntu and xubuntu before. unbuntu seems to be the most supported out there is that helps at all Holstein_
[02:53] <krustyklimber> hi... sorry to keep asking, but  I am trying to restore my sound.... using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting I've determined it's only this user profile that's affected.... how do I restore the default setting, thanks
[02:54] <Holstein_> krustyklimber: You may have to reflash your ubuntu distro.
[02:54] <DaveyG> Mint is not an easy to get started distro. Although i do love it.
[02:55] <krustyklimber> the whole thing, from the CD?
[02:55] <Jordan_U> Holstein_: Please change your nick to avoid confusion and extra highlights of Holstein.
[02:55] <Holstein_> Jordan_u: :3
[02:55] <himself_> hah
[02:55] <g146m026> DaveyG: I like Mint because we can use Gnome 2 (Mate) but all my server is Ubuntu
[02:55] <Jordan_U> jordan_o: This is a support channel, please stop the games.
[02:56] <Jordan_UU> Jordan_u: Ok
[02:56] <hpuser4466> Know if Gimp 2.8.4 in ubuntu 13.04 has GPU rendering enabled?   I notice GEGL operations in the tools menu.  Can tell if hardware acceleration is enabled though.
[02:56] <DaveyG> g146m026
[02:57] <Shmerby> !ubuntu
[02:57] <Hilikus> holstein: yes, it windows i can write to the phone without problem. i confirmed in a win7 VM
[02:57] <Jordan_U> ubotttu: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[02:57] <DaveyG> g146m026 i like mint because its so quick and simple. But my linux knowledge is just not there yet to be able to use it as my main linux distro.
[02:58] <krustyklimber> can you explain the process of a reflash, I'm more of a GUI type user.... not computer savvy
[02:58] <holstein> Hilikus: good.. that means the device is likely completely functioning properly
[02:58] <Hilikus> yes
[02:58] <holstein> Hilikus: i would try mounting from the command line, and mv or cp there as well.. see if you can get an error message that is helpful
[02:59] <Hilikus> what dev though
[02:59] <Hilikus> it is not an UMS
[02:59] <Hilikus> but mtp
[02:59] <DaveyG> krustyklimber, did your sound work at somestage using that distro that your using now?
[03:00] <holstein> Hilikus: id just poke around til i see it
[03:00] <holstein> Hilikus: if all you want to do is move files, consider something like airdroid or an ssh/ftp server option.. you dont need wires for the transfer
[03:00] <krustyklimber> yes it worked, up until today, when I tried to get my mic working... I did something, I cant figure out
[03:01] <akurilin> Does anybody know what happens to slock when you ssh into a machine with it running?
[03:01] <akurilin> Is it pretty safe to say that the screen won't magically turn on?
[03:03] <holstein> akurilin: the machines i ssh into, running ssh servers, are headless.. so, they have no screens to turn on, and they are not logged in like that locally
[03:04] <holstein> akurilin: i would set up a test with whatever screen locker you are using, and see what happens.. ssh shouldnt do anything to the x session like that..
[03:04] <krustyklimber> using Pulse Audio I somehow changed settings, I have since removed Pulse, hoping to restore default settings, unsucessfully
[03:04] <kriskropd> akurilin: if you have a desktop running x on DISPLAY=0, then from ssh you could type 'DISPLAY=:0 slock' to lock the screen
[03:05] <kriskropd> akurilin: however if you simply run slock from an ssh that is not in a display environment (you can check with 'echo $DISPLAY') then it will probably give you an error about missing X
[03:05] <DaveyG> i feel your pain krustyklimber, ive had that before and never resolved the issue without wiping and starting again
[03:05] <kriskropd> akurilin: addittionally, there is 'vlock' which will lock your shell, if you need something like that
[03:06] <kriskropd> additionally, I can't spell :P
[03:06] <krustyklimber> ok thanks Davey.... now I gotta figeure out where that dang Ubuntu CD is :P
[03:06] <xangua> krustyklimber: ubuntu no longer fits in a CD
[03:07] <Shmerby> xangua: What?
[03:07] <DaveyG> I here that to krustyklimber, you got a android phone?
[03:07] <kriskropd> xangua: it hasn't for awhile ...
[03:07] <holstein> krustyklimber: i like using pavucontrol ..try installing pulse and pavucontrol, get a file playing, and look at the routing in pavucontrol.. see that you have everything "up" in alsamixer (carefully) and that you have a device in "aplay -l"
[03:07] <DaveyG> the network install disk for ubuntu does if you cant find a dvd around.
[03:07] <Shmerby> Whats the most stable version a ubuntu?
[03:07] <kriskropd> xangua: if you simply must install from a CD and not a usb, get the ubuntu server edition - you can skip out of the server options during install and opt to download and install the graphical desktop stuff from apt-get
[03:07] <akurilin> holstein, kriskropd great info, thanks guys.
[03:08] <krustyklimber> way over my head holstein, sorry
[03:08] <holstein> Shmerby: they are *all* ubuntu..
[03:08] <kriskropd> xangua: however, I haven't used ubuntu with intended grpahics in years, so i'm nto the person to ask about that - it used to be 'sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop' i think, but like i said ... years ago
[03:08] <xangua> Shmerby: latest stable release is 14.04
[03:08] <holstein> !14.04
[03:08] <DaveyG> Shmerby, i would go for 12 my self.
[03:08] <rickmacomber> hi
[03:08] <Shmerby> DaveyG: Why is that?
[03:09] <DaveyG> hi rickmacomber
[03:09] <kingbeowolf> anyone tested the x-swat ppa with an r9 290?
[03:09] <rickmacomber> sup
[03:09] <krustyklimber> lol pavu... pulse audio... man I am dumb :)
[03:09] <holstein> DaveyG: when you say "go for 12?", you mean, 12.04?
[03:09] <DaveyG> i have found there are small problems that i cant solve in 14 that 12 doesnt have Shmerby
[03:10] <DaveyG> yes 12.04
[03:10] <andrew2> Hi
[03:10] <Shmerby> DaveyG: I will try that on e.
[03:10] <DaveyG> hi andrew2
[03:10] <xangua> kingbeowolf: ppa's are not officialy supported, also that ppa tells you don't expect any stability on daily use
[03:10] <holstein> DaveyG: likely due to specific hardware support..
[03:10] <krustyklimber> ok I will try re=installing pulse audio.... it used to fix my mic, which stops working everytime I restart
[03:10] <Shmerby> How do you do the red name thing, or is that only for admins?
[03:10] <krustyklimber> brb
[03:10] <DaveyG> although im not anything more than a old newvie to linux.
[03:11] <Shmerby> !stable
[03:11] <Shmerby> Owned, Holstein.
[03:11] <DaveyG> yes holstein, def hardware spec choice. I use older hardware with linux and have had issues with 14.
[03:11] <kingbeowolf> xangua, "This PPA is for stable upstream releases of X.org components."
[03:11] <Shmerby> Even Ubottu says no.
[03:11] <Jordan_U> Shmerby: Any message containing your nick will be highlighted by your IRC client.
[03:12] <Shmerby> Oh...
[03:12] <andrew2> Ubuntu*
[03:12] <holstein> i use 12.04 where its appropriate, and 14.04 where its appropriate.. im stating, that the differences are likely specific to hardware
[03:12] <andrew2> Wish app grid worked on 12.04
[03:12] <kingbeowolf> app grid is closed source
[03:13] <DaveyG> im sure, listen to holstein, he has a much better understanding of linux than i do.
[03:13] <kingbeowolf> use Muon Discover
[03:13] <Shmerby>  If I have Ok Low end working hardware with 4gb of ram and 500GB Hard drive, which Ubuntu will be better?
[03:13] <DaveyG> i would go for 14 from what holstein is saying.
[03:13] <kriskropd> Shmerby: any of them - what kind of CPU and GPU?
[03:13] <andrew2> App grid is closed ? It uses open libs.
[03:14] <DaveyG> if you have hardware issues then go back to 12.04
[03:14] <Shmerby>  I had someone build this PC for me while back never used so I don't know.
[03:14] <kriskropd> Shmerby: xubuntu and lubuntu use XFCE and LXDE which are some of the lightest weight desktop environments you can get
[03:14] <DaveyG> I would think you could use the live boot cd to test if the hardware works with your setup.
[03:14] <krustyklimber> pulse audio shows music playing in my rythm box, but I can't hear it
[03:15] <andrew2> I want to run it.
[03:15] <holstein> DaveyG: im not trying to imply that.. and im sure you'r opinion is *quite* valid.. im just saying, be cautious of blanketly stating 14.04 has some issues that cant be solved.. when, for a new user, 14.04 may be a "better" choice... we really dont know, and i think it would be best for the user to try both and use what is best for them
[03:15] <Shmerby> Gonna make CD's for both Ubuntu 14 and 12
[03:15] <Shmerby> !Ubuntu
[03:15] <kingbeowolf> App grid is closed and they even have a warning whne you install it
[03:15] <kingbeowolf> use Muon Discover
[03:15] <andrew2> Oh no
[03:15] <kingbeowolf> it is awesome
[03:15] <kingbeowolf> it is quit and built with QML
[03:15] <DaveyG> i agree with that holstein, that makes perfect sense.
[03:16] <andrew2> OK ty
[03:16] <andrew2> I had that install in pure Ubuntu.
[03:16] <andrew2> Why would app grid be closed source ?
[03:17] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, i dont know
[03:17] <andrew2> All I know us that its better then Ubuntu app store.
[03:17] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, bro look at Muon Discover
[03:17] <holstein> andrew2: "better" is a matter of opinion.. though, you should use what works "Best" for you
[03:17] <ianorlin> yes apt-get works best for some people
[03:17] <andrew2> Is there an app grid channel ?
[03:17] <Shmerby> Which version should I get for Ubuntu 14? 64 bit or 32 or amd64 I have 4g in RAM
[03:17] <andrew2> Omg really.
[03:18] <andrew2> Better means the best
[03:18] <holstein> Shmerby: in that case, i would use 64
[03:18] <Shmerby> Andrew2: #appgird
[03:18] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/muon-suite-1-4-alpha-released/
[03:18] <Shmerby> #appgrid
[03:18] <kingbeowolf> that is open source andrew2
[03:18] <kriskropd> Shmerby: you need to know if your CPU is 32 bit or 64 bit - if you have 4GB of ram, it likely means it is 64 bit
[03:18] <krustyklimber> is there a way to restore to the setting I had running yesterday?
[03:18] <andrew2> Ok
[03:19] <holstein> krustyklimber: if you saved them..
[03:19] <krustyklimber> yeah... not smart enough to have figure out how back=up worked.... not much of a proactive user
[03:20] <hpuser4466> How do I tell if gimp has gpu hardware rendering enabled?
[03:20] <Shmerby> Why Ubuntu is awesome, *ONLY FOR MAC OSX OR  WINDOWS* Opens terminal 1 minute later running that app.
[03:20] <holstein> krustyklimber: you may consider a fresh install the "easy way".. since that may take about 10 minutes or less..
[03:20] <andrew2> Yup
[03:20] <Shmerby> hpuser4466L Try look at your BIOS setting it might say.
[03:20] <andrew2> There's others distro besides ubuntu
[03:20] <andrew2> I use a respin
[03:21] <holstein> andrew2: this is the specific ubuntu support channel, though, friend..
[03:21] <krustyklimber> holstein.... lol nothing takes me ten minutes on a computer.... I couldn't even figure out how to burn this version onto a cd, and had to buy it
[03:21] <holstein> krustyklimber: its too big for a CD..
[03:21] <holstein> !mini
[03:22] <Shmerby> holstein: Not mine. Mine holds 4 gb this download is close to 1gb.
[03:22] <holstein> and you can add what you want/need ^ over the network.. or a lubuntu iso should fit on a CD
[03:22] <krustyklimber> I know it is now too big for a cd.... that's why, if I can't plug in a cd and have it magically put Ubuntu on my computer I am probably screwed
[03:22] <holstein> Shmerby: i was stating, for 4gb's of memory, i would use 64bit, if 64bit is supported by the CPU
[03:22] <andrew2> Compress
[03:23] <andrew2> Its not magic
[03:23] <krustyklimber> andrew, to me it might as well be magic
[03:23] <holstein> andrew2: you cant "compress" the iso onto a CD like that.. they are as tight as possiblel
[03:23] <holstein> possible*
[03:23] <Jordan_U> andrew2: The Ubuntu DVD images are already compressed.
[03:24] <andrew2> Oh
[03:24] <ianorlin> that is why it takes more space on install then it does on dvd
[03:24] <andrew2> I know that much.
[03:24] <Shmerby> What is "Dummy write" I am about to burn ubuntu 14 on to a CD
[03:24] <krustyklimber> am I using incorrect terminology.... cd, when I should say DVD?
[03:24] <hpuser4466> i definitely have accelerated GPU (ATI HD Radeon) and glxinfo says "direct rendering: Yes"  but can;t tell if gimp is GPU enabled.
[03:24] <holstein> Shmerby: 14.04... that would be a "test write"... AFAIK
[03:25] <andrew2> Maybe zip it down , then unzip on computer a VM it.
[03:25] <xangua> Shmerby: ubuntu doesn't fit on a CD, use a DVD or a usb stick
[03:25] <Shmerby> *DVD
[03:25] <andrew2> Think of doing that.
[03:25] <holstein> andrew2: it wont fit on a CD.. please use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[03:26] <andrew2> Load it in a VM I said no CD needed.
[03:26] <krustyklimber> I can get it onto a USB stick.... just never figured out how to get it back off.... I guess I'm not smart enough to be helped, thanks for trying, one and all
[03:27] <andrew2> Actually no zip needed. I said that wrong.
[03:27] <holstein> krustyklimber: you can dd copy the iso's to dvd, or use something like unetbootin
[03:27] <andrew2> Live boot.
[03:27] <holstein> andrew2: there is no way to make the iso work on a cd for a normal installation.. thanks though
[03:27] <andrew2> Unetbootin
[03:27] <krustyklimber> greek to me holstein
[03:27] <andrew2> Omg
[03:27] <andrew2> What a weirdo
[03:27] <holstein> !install | krustyklimber
[03:27] <andrew2> Iggy bin for him
[03:27] <krustyklimber> I don't even know what dd means
[03:27] <holstein> krustyklimber: you should be able to read about a few of those options there ^^
[03:28] <holstein> krustyklimber: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ is about unet.. though, i think there may be easier suggestions as the wiki page above
[03:28] <krustyklimber> lol reading and comprehending are likely to have a gap in there.... but I'll try, thanks again everyone
[03:29] <andrew2> Any one use xfce ?
[03:30] <andrew2> Found a channel for it.
[03:31] <mido> any body there ?
[03:31] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, did you check out muon discover?
[03:31] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, it looks almost exactly like App grid except it is open source.
[03:32] <mido> guys guys , ihave aproblem please any body help ?
[03:32] <dotDeb> mido just ask
[03:32] <mido> ican't make boot from win7 cd on ubuntu
[03:33] <mido> iwas on win8.1 i just can't handle with linux and ican't go back to windows
[03:34] <dotDeb> mido you don't have the original windows disk that came with your pc?
[03:34] <mido> no this cd not original but it was working when iwas on windows
[03:35] <andrew2> Omg this hopless
[03:35] <andrew2> Bios settings
[03:36] <mido> Bios settings have no problem i checked it 5 times before now
[03:36] <andrew2> Make CD ROM boot before hard disk
[03:36] <andrew2> In boot meno
[03:37] <andrew2> Menu_
[03:37] <mido> i did it before
[03:37] <andrew2> So yes bios
[03:37] <mido> i also tried from usb and nothing
[03:37] <mido> it keeps telling me boot from cd/dvd ...
[03:37] <andrew2> You set CD Rom before HDD ?
[03:37] <mido> then it go into ubuntu
[03:38] <mido> yes
[03:38] <andrew2> Ok
[03:38] <andrew2> Do ever get in Ubuntu logo ?
[03:39] <mido> it show ubuntu logo after this word (boot from cd/dvd)
[03:40] <andrew2> Then let it do that.
[03:40] <mido> after logo it's going to ubuntu system that ihave installed before
[03:41] <mido> my problem here iwant to install windows system and ican't
[03:41] <mido> maybe ubuntu changed files on bios or boot info iam not sure
[03:42] <andrew2> You need to state the issue better
[03:42] <andrew2> Windows will just write over Ubuntu install.
[03:42] <andrew2> No it doesn't change biod
[03:43] <bryan> I have a bit of lag on whenever i move a windows and I dont know what it is please help..
[03:43] <andrew2> Unity ?
[03:43] <utfans05> bryan: what is your systems's load?
[03:43] <mido> when i was in windows system icould make boot from cd
[03:43] <mido> now iam on ubuntu and ican't
[03:43] <andrew2> Unity is bit heavy for some computers
[03:44] <andrew2> From bios.
[03:44] <bryan> what do  you mean? sorry just started using linux.
[03:44] <bryan> I have xubuntu
[03:44] <andrew2> That's spreate from the Ubuntu install bios is micro chip
[03:45] <mido> yes iam begginer on ubuntu
[03:45] <utfans05> bryan: open up a terminal and type uptime.
[03:45] <utfans05> what does the load adverage say
[03:45] <andrew2> The contains very basic code
[03:45] <andrew2> For test the hard ware at start up
[03:45] <bryan> 0.49, 1.05, 1.11
[03:46] <kriskropd> utfans05: that might not be very telling, since uptime is going to treat each core as 1.00 and we don't know how many cores he has ...
[03:46] <mido> andrew2 : so what can ido now ??
[03:46] <andrew2> You need to put CD ROM at the top of boot list.
[03:46] <andrew2> I've told you
[03:46] <utfans05> krisd: but It's a start... bryan now in that terminal run top and see what's eating up your processor and ram. that's gonna tell you what's causing your lag.
[03:46] <utfans05> s/krisd/kriskropd
[03:47] <andrew2> Its unity
[03:47] <mido> idid it before , believe me it didn't work with me
[03:47] <bryan> what am i looking at?
[03:47] <utfans05> He's runnign xfce. xbuntu.
[03:47] <ianorlin> well there is nproc
[03:47] <andrew2> I'm done mido
[03:47] <kingbeowolf> i want to remove Unity
[03:48] <kingbeowolf> how should i do that?
[03:48] <utfans05> top shows you all of your running processes. you need to see what's usign up all of your resources.
[03:48] <kingbeowolf> sudo apt-get remove unity or sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[03:48] <andrew2> Install another desktop environment first
[03:48] <mido> andrew2 : ok np iwill try again
[03:48] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, i have KDE already
[03:48] <Jordan_U> !nounity | kingbeowolf
[03:48] <sydney> kingbeowolf:you need to have another DE installed first.
[03:48] <andrew2> He still needs another desktop
[03:49] <kingbeowolf> sydney, i have KDE
[03:49] <bryan> they keep moving lol
[03:49] <andrew2> Oh KDE that awful for me.
[03:49] <sydney> kingbeowolf: Why do you want to remove unity?
[03:49] <sydney> kingbeowolf: it should not get in the way...
[03:50] <kingbeowolf> sydney, i just prefer KDE
[03:50] <utfans05> bryan: what's the top 3-4 those are going to be your highest usage processes.
[03:50] <sydney> kingbeowolf:Is unity getting in the way?
[03:51] <kingbeowolf> I just don't want multiple things running at the same time
[03:51] <bryan> I only have isntalled google chrome and docky at the moment
[03:51] <kingbeowolf> sydney, for some reason when you install the KDE desktop it doesn't just run KDE it runs some other desktop application as well
[03:52] <kriskropd> bryan:  google chrome is a known memory hog - do windows lag only when you have applications running or does it occur from boot up?
[03:52] <sydney> kingbeowolf: Ok,what is the programs name?
[03:52] <kingbeowolf> sydney, i don't know but if you install kubuntu-desktop and then restart your system it will revert to what ever your Unity desktop was and then it will reboot
[03:53] <bryan> its choppiness and I just installed google chrome and i have 4 gb ram
[03:53] <kingbeowolf> sydney, it basically flashes the Unity desktop before rebooting
[03:53] <sydney> kingbeowolf: so,are you in kde,or in unity?
[03:54] <kingbeowolf> sydney, im in KDE
[03:54] <Guest28804> Test
[03:54] <kriskropd> bryan: it could be anything from: gpu driver issues, Xorg issues, compositing issues, cpu load - if you close google chrome, do the windows still render choppy?
[03:54] <bryan> yes
[03:55] <sydney> kingbeowolf: So,I am having trouble understanding.What is your problem exactly? What version of ubuntu you running?
[03:56] <kingbeowolf> sydney, i have told you my problem
[03:56] <kriskropd> bryan: can you install htop for me? it's a fancier version of 'top' with color highlights and individual load bars for each cpu core in your machine - to install htop. go back to that terminal you ran before, close 'top' with ctrl+c then type 'sudo apt-get install htop' - it will ask for admin password and ask you if you are sure you want to install - when it is done,, simply load htop
[03:56] <holstein> bryan: i would look at my GPU driver, if i have nvidia or AMD, and there is a proprietary one i could try..
[03:56] <kingbeowolf> sydney, when i restart it flashes the Unity desktop before closing down
[03:57] <kingbeowolf> sydney, but i am in KDE
[03:57] <kingbeowolf> sydney, this is 14.04
[03:57] <sydney> kingbeowolf: And might i ask what version of ubuntu you are running?
[03:57] <sydney> kingbeowolf: oops!!
[03:57] <kingbeowolf> :D
[03:57] <sydney> kingbeowolf: weird...
[03:57] <holstein> kingbeowolf: you mean, the greeter?
[03:58] <bryan> ok ill do that
[03:58] <bryan> done
[03:59] <kriskropd> bryan: if this turns out to not be a cpu load issue, I would say it is a bug in Xorg - if this does turn out to be a cpu load issue, then either you need to find a way to make your CPU work less by getting the GPU driver setup right or, if no gpu in machine, getting a dedicated gpu for the machine
[03:59] <kingbeowolf> holstein, no not what is it called lightdm?
[03:59] <kingbeowolf> holstein, it doesn't flash lightdm
[03:59] <kingbeowolf> it flashes the actual Unity desktop
[03:59] <visiteur_1> salut
[03:59] <kingbeowolf> my Unity wallpaper is different then my KDE wallpaper
[04:00] <kingbeowolf> I see all my desktop icons and then the Unity wallpaper
[04:00] <kriskropd> bryan: when you run htop, at the top you will see CPU and MEM and such, do you see only one bar for CPU? or are there multiple?
[04:00] <bryan> it has a gpu
[04:00] <andrew2> U have an idea in that lag issue
[04:00] <holstein> kingbeowolf: whats the problem, though? i mean, you used to have that, correct? are you thinking its running in the background?
[04:00] <andrew2> Try seeing about installing the 2D version if unity .
[04:00] <kingbeowolf> holstein, yeah i think it is running in the background
[04:01] <holstein> kingbeowolf: confirm if it is or not..
[04:01] <kriskropd> bryan: if there is only one CPU bar, it might be safe to assume (from your previous load average paste) that it is in fact a cpu load issue
[04:01] <kingbeowolf> holstein, i already uninstalled it now
[04:01] <bryan> it shows 1 2 3 4 and then mem and swp no cpu
[04:01] <kingbeowolf> holstein, but it still shouldn't do that right?
[04:01] <kriskropd> bryan: okay, then that weeds out cpu load, it doesn't weed out gpu driver failure or xorg though
[04:02] <kriskropd> bryan: bryan 1, 2, 3 and 4 means you have a quad core cpu
[04:02] <holstein> kingbeowolf: i dont think its showing that becuase its running in the background.. i used to see some really odd things at shutdown with a via chip.. none of which were running on the hardware at that time
[04:02] <kriskropd> bryan: that load average you saw before with uptime can go as high as 4.00
[04:02] <bryan> yeah
[04:02] <bryan> ok
[04:02] <bryan> can I raise it
[04:03] <kingbeowolf> holstein, well to me it seems like a bug but i guess i will reboot and see if it still happens
[04:03] <kingbeowolf> thanks
[04:03] <kriskropd> bryan: it will rise base don how hard the computer is working (lower is better) 1.00 of your maximum  4.00 means you are only using approximatley one quarter of your cpu's processing ability on average
[04:03] <kriskropd> based*
[04:04] <bryan> then its not that right?
[04:04] <Adzz> Hi all, I have a weird networking issues on one of my Ubuntu machines, my machine can connect to my network either by me giving it a manual IP or receiving one from my router and it can resolve domains, however when i try to ping an address or visit a web page, it cannot connect. I receive "Destination Host Unreachable"
[04:04] <kriskropd> bryan: it means your cpu is not struggling to try to do something it shouldn't be doing :) it's part of the troubleshooting process to rule out potential issues
[04:05] <kriskropd> bryan: unfortunately, it gets harder to trouble shoot from here, let's start with GPU drivers - do you know which gpu you have installed and do you know which driver you have installed?
[04:06] <bryan> I dont
[04:07] <Adzz> anyone have any ideas?
[04:07] <bryan> i have the box of the laptop
[04:08] <bryan> it says intel hd graphics 3000
[04:08] <holstein> bryan: intel is usually well supported.. are you up to date with upgrades?
[04:08] <kriskropd> bryan: we can find out which card you have from terminal, type 'sudo lshw -class display' it should indicate which gpu you ahve
[04:09] <kriskropd> bryan: holstein is right, install usually works out of the box without driver issues
[04:09] <kriskropd> s/install/intel
[04:10]  * kriskropd is groggy and prone to typing mistakes
[04:10] <bryan> holstein: what upgrades are you refering to?
[04:10] <bryan> Krisropt just put the command line. now what do i do?
[04:11] <holstein> bryan: ubuntu upgrades... open a terminal and use the command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and reboot if you get a kernel update, and test
[04:11] <kriskropd> Adzz: you said you can get an IP from your router via DHCP, does this mean you can ping your router (lets say 'ping 192.168.1.1') but can't ping google? ('ping 8.8.8.8')
[04:11] <kriskropd> Adzz: if so, that sounds like connection failure on your router
[04:12] <Adzz> kriskropd: That is correct, but from my other computers/phones i can access the internet fine, im connected to the same router now, talking to you...
[04:12] <holstein> or DNS... i manuallly added DNS routes to my server for that in one case..
[04:12] <kriskropd> bryan: well, lshw should tell you which card you have, I expect on a line indicating 'product:' it will say intell graphics 3000 or something
[04:12] <holstein> i assumed it was related to my router, as kriskropd is suggesting, Adzz .. try manuallly using openDNS or google DNS
[04:12] <kriskropd> holstein: the only issue witht hat solution is DNS isn't needed to ping 8.8.8.8
[04:13] <holstein> kriskropd: true..
[04:13] <holstein> Adzz: you cant ping 8.8.8.8. ?
[04:13] <kriskropd> Adzz: that is absolutely strange, were you messing with the firewall by chance? Iptables or anything like that?
[04:14] <Adzz> holstein: and also, if it was a DNS fault, why can i still resolve google.com to 74.125.237.105
[04:14] <holstein> Adzz: can it?
[04:14] <Adzz> kriskropd: nope nothing... the only thing that has change is more computer connected to the router, but they are disconnected now... I've removed my manual address settings and rebooted, I'll see if that changes anything...
[04:14] <Adzz> holstein: it can :/
[04:15] <Fall> that awkward moment when you start typing git commands into irc
[04:15] <kriskropd> bryan: if you can confirm that lshw indicates intel graphics, then there isn't much more assistance I can give you - you might need to ask in #xorg or #xfce maybe
[04:15] <markolo25_> i have a question
[04:16] <markolo25_> i have a tar.gz and when uncompressed it's size is smaller than the tar.gz file
[04:16] <markolo25_> is this possible?
[04:16] <kriskropd> bryan: #xubuntu might be a good palce too - they would be more familiar of the combination of software you are using for your desktop environment
[04:16] <holstein> bryan: you can try using a vesa driver as well, to isolate the driver in the GPU http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[04:16] <usr13_> markolo25_: What is it?
[04:16] <Jordan_U> markolo25_: Yes, though rare.
[04:16] <kriskropd> holstein: you can, in fact, ping 8.8.8.8?
[04:17] <markolo25_> to know the size i use du -h for the extracted and ls-l for the tar.gz
[04:17] <holstein> markolo25_: i would ask the creator for a sum, but, it depends on what the goal is...
[04:17] <Adzz> kriskropd: It seems that its now fixed, after i put it back on to a DHCP address... Odd, since it was always on a manual address up to now
[04:17] <usr13_> markolo25_: Uusally, a tar file is an archive, (multiple files).
[04:17] <kriskropd> holstein: because, if so, then this sounds liek an issue with your browser (assumign you are using one to indicate if network is available or not)
[04:17] <markolo25_> yea
[04:17] <bryan> it doesnt show anything saying intel graphics
[04:17] <markolo25_> what i did was i have the tar.gz inside of an ext3
[04:17] <holstein> kriskropd: not me, though..
[04:17] <markolo25_> and extracted it to ntfs partition
[04:18] <kriskropd> holstein: sorry >_< my bad
[04:18] <markolo25_> is there a way to make ls -l human readable
[04:18] <holstein> kriskropd: no worries..
[04:18] <kriskropd> Adzz: because, if so, then this sounds liek an issue with your browser (assumign you are using one to indicate if network is available or not)
[04:18] <usr13_> markolo25_: The reported file size may differ on other file systems.
[04:18] <holstein> !cookie | kriskropd
[04:18] <markolo25_> so the size is in the same format as du -h
[04:18] <markolo25_> oh ok thank you usr13_
[04:18] <markolo25_> it's probably just the difference in file systems
[04:18] <Adzz> kriskropd: I wasn't able to ping 8.8.8.8 prior to now, all i was able to do was resolve domains and ping my router (192.168.0.1)
[04:19] <bryan> how do ask on another #
[04:19] <usr13_> markolo25_: But some files don't really compress.  Graphics are sometimes not compressable.
[04:19] <markolo25_> ok
[04:19] <kriskropd> bryan: you can join another channel by simply typing '/join xubuntu'
[04:20] <andrew2> Noob
[04:20] <kriskropd> however, could you also paste what you see as output from 'sudo lshw -class display' ?
[04:20] <bryan> just found it
[04:20] <markolo25_> thank you
[04:20] <usr13_> kriskropd:  /join #xubuntu
[04:20] <holstein> andrew2: please dont use names and terms like that.. and only use this channel for support Q&A.. thanks
[04:20] <markolo25_> is it possible to make du -h only display the folders size and not every sub directory
[04:21] <xpistos> Hey, I am having some issues with dpkg and need some assitance. I try to run sudo apt-get clean, autoremove and purge but it is telling me it can't becase E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[04:21] <usr13_> markolo25_: yes
[04:21] <xpistos> If it matters it also tells me that there is no disk space, but there is plenty
[04:22] <markolo25_> ok
[04:22] <markolo25_> it turns out they are the same size
[04:22] <usr13_> df xpistos df -i
[04:22] <kriskropd> xpistos: what happens if you run 'sudo apt-get -f'
[04:22] <markolo25_> the tar.gz is 524G and the extracted is 527G
[04:22] <markolo25_> should be good :D
[04:22] <markolo25_> i guess i should've just tared it without compression
[04:23] <xpistos> kriskropd: sudo apt-get what?
[04:23] <usr13_> markolo25_: If it is only one file, there would be no reason to tar it.
[04:23] <kriskropd> xpistos: sorry 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[04:23] <markolo25_> it's not just one file
[04:23] <markolo25_> it's one of my storage drives for family photos
[04:23] <markolo25_>  i guess you're right pictures don't compress >_>
[04:23] <kriskropd> xpistos: don't include any specific packages, just let apt-get try to clean up and get waht it needs
[04:23] <xpistos> kriskropd: tells me there is a disk full error, but I am sure it isn't
[04:24] <xpistos> apt-get clean comes back fine
[04:24] <usr13_> markolo25_: So they are .jpg images, right?
[04:24] <genii> xpistos: Have you run a fsck recently?
[04:24] <markolo25_> yea
[04:24] <xpistos> apt-get autoremove gives me the same -f issue
[04:24] <kriskropd> xpistos: and if you type 'df -h' how much space do you see available
[04:24] <xpistos> genii: no
[04:24] <bjrohan> hi there. I am trying to run an upstart script, however the log says that it can not access the jar file, what am I doing incorrectly here is the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734754/
[04:25] <bjrohan> scratch that wrong post
[04:25] <xpistos> kriskropd: root has 2.6 gb avail
[04:25] <usr13_> markolo25_: Image files that are in .jpg format are already compressed, (that is the advantage of the .jpg format).
[04:25] <Adzz> bjrohan: In the upstart script, you are not giving the correct location to the jar file, where is it located?
[04:26] <bulldog666> bodhilinux kicks ass
[04:26] <bulldog666> so fast
[04:26] <markolo25_> yea i figured, compressed files cannot be compressed again so next time i'll just tar them if the drive they're on now starts dying
[04:26] <xpistos> genii: not really sure how to run fsck
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !ot|bulldog666
[04:26] <bulldog666> best ubuntu desktop enviro
[04:26] <kriskropd> xpistos: you might have a dependency bug somewhere, I had this with php 5.2 a while back
[04:26] <bjrohan> Adzz: Yep, :-(
[04:26] <markolo25_> is ubottu a bot
[04:26] <bulldog666> yes
[04:26] <holstein> bulldog666: bodhi is actually not ubuntu.. should have its own support channel...
[04:26] <Adzz> bjrohan: Where is the jar file located?
[04:26] <usr13_> markolo25_: JPEG is " is a commonly used method of lossy compression for digital images, particularly for those images produced by digital photography."  See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jpeg
[04:27] <kriskropd> xpistos: can you paste the entire output ot apt-get? it should indicate somewhere what packages specifically are causing the problem
[04:27] <xpistos> kriskropd: it does keep saying there are unmet deps
[04:27] <bulldog666> isn't it just a desktop enviro for ubuntu
[04:27] <bulldog666> it seems just like ubuntu
[04:27] <holstein> bulldog666: no
[04:27] <xpistos> kriskropd: sure one sec let me get pastebin
[04:27] <bulldog666> can you please explain?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> bulldog666 it's not supported here.  sorry.  see the bodhilinux folk for support.
[04:28] <bulldog666> im not looking for desktop support buddy
[04:28] <markolo25_> this is the first time i've heard of bodhilinux
[04:28] <holstein> bulldog666: sure.. ubuntu is ubuntu.. anyone can take ubuntu and make something different, such as bodhi.. thus, not being ubuntu anymore
[04:28] <kriskropd> bulldog666: bodhilinux is just another distro
[04:28] <kriskropd> bulldog666: it's all linux with a bunch of open source software piled on top
[04:28] <bulldog666> ithought that was whats debian was for
[04:28] <bulldog666> thanks
[04:28] <genii> xpistos: Usually, boot to the recovery by selecting it from grub menu. Select drop to root prompt.Then run it on the suspected partitions. Like if /usr is mounted to /dev/sdb2  then run like: fsck /dev/sdb2   ...when done checking partitions you can issue exit and get back to recovery menu to reboot or continue normally, etc
[04:28] <kriskropd> bulldog666: what software you include = your distro
[04:28] <holstein> !flavors | bulldog666
[04:29] <holstein> bulldog666: but, bodhi is not an official flavor.. bodhi is its own thing.. just like ubuntu is "based" on debian, but is not debian anymore
[04:29] <markolo25_> that desktop manager looks awful bulldog666
[04:29] <bulldog666> is there a irc client for ubuntu terminal?
[04:29] <bjrohan> Adzz: I realized that is the problem. I am having problems with the script, I last played with it early in the am, and lost track of a later revision
[04:30] <xpistos> sorry guys. son came in with a speeding ticket.
[04:30] <kriskropd> bulldog666: there is no ubuntu terminal - by default I think it uses gnome-terminal or something
[04:30] <markolo25_> xpistos: how much :(
[04:30] <Adzz> bjrohan: That's fine, its easy to fix, you just gotta let me know the path to the jar file you want to run, and I'll edit the upstart script for you to fix it
[04:30] <holstein> bulldog666: irssi... weechat..
[04:30] <kriskropd> bulldog666: sorry, i misunderstood
[04:30] <kriskropd> bulldog666: yes, there are irc clients for terminal, such as irssi or weechat
[04:30] <andrew2> Xchat
[04:30] <bulldog666> thanks
[04:30] <bjrohan> Adzz: I have it edited and rebooting, will let you know how it goes in a few :-)
[04:30] <bulldog666> i meant to say ubuntu server
[04:30] <bulldog666> thanks thou
[04:31] <andrew2> Not great though
[04:31] <rtnb> Hey, I'm trying to do a find and replace on a bunch of html files' links to make them https but it doesnt seem to be working, whats wrong with my command? http://pastie.org/9345540
[04:31] <holstein> andrew2: for the terminal.. xchat is GUI
[04:32] <kriskropd> bulldog666: if you are using terminal frequently, you ought to look into either 'screen' or 'tmux' (I prefer the latteR)
[04:32] <bulldog666> ill check those out
[04:33] <Gorroth> Hey
[04:33] <bjrohan> Adzz: Well, I am trying to start a bukkit server (minecraft) it starts, but now the server throws error messages 10x / second for some reason, the last line keeps repeating: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734787/
[04:33] <kriskropd> bulldog666: if you don't know what either are, I would start with 'tmux;
[04:33] <kriskropd> s/;/'
[04:33] <Gorroth> On the livecd, is there any sort of gui tool we can use to resize crypto partitions?  I've tried using a guide I found on ubuntu's site, but I couldn't get pvresize to work, because it was complaining that the blocks were already allocated.
[04:34] <Gorroth> I was hoping that whatever I did wrong, maybe a gui tool would do correctly.
[04:34] <ubuntu-studio> i have used gparted
[04:34] <kriskropd> bulldog666: [gnu] screen is a bit aged and ony can compete with tmux with a lot of familiarity adn configuration
[04:34] <andrew2> Xchat is great
[04:34] <Gorroth> gparted isn't for crypt partitions though
[04:34] <bjrohan> Adzz: here is the updated script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734792/
[04:34] <kriskropd> only* and* - maybe I should go soon
[04:34] <rtnb> Hey, I'm trying to do a find and replace on a bunch of html files' links to make them https but it doesnt seem to be working, whats wrong with my command? http://pastie.org/9345540 (using sed)
[04:35] <Adzz> bjrohan: and what error are you getting?
[04:35] <ubuntu-studio> Gorroth,  i dont know. i just used it to resize an encrypted partition on 14.04 32bit yesterday. it asked for the encryption key then it let me work with the disk
[04:35] <holstein> andrew2: xchat is *not* commandline, friend.. thats the current question
[04:35] <Gorroth> ubuntu-studio: Oh really?
[04:35] <ubuntu-studio> yes
[04:35] <Gorroth> ubuntu-studio: Maybe I should try that then.  I didn't think it worked at all with crypto services.
[04:35] <andrew2> Yeah it can be
[04:36] <kriskropd> rtnb: really you should ask in #sed, however all you need to do is   sed 's/http:/https:/g'
[04:36] <rtnb> didnt know there were channels for every command :-P
[04:36] <rtnb> but thank you ill try that
[04:36] <kriskropd> rtnb: there aren't, but #bash #awk and #sed are very educational channels to hang around in :)
[04:36] <bjrohan> That last line keeps repeating over and over and over: [21:31:25] [Server thread/INFO]: Unknown command. Type "help" for help.
[04:37] <bjrohan> I am not sure what is sending it that command
[04:37] <andrew2> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3299
[04:37] <xpistos> 14 miles an hour
[04:37] <andrew2> Link is for xchat
[04:38] <andrew2> ...cmds via terminal
[04:38] <ubuntu-studio> so i could use some partitioning advise: i have a P4 w/ 1.2 GB DDR1, 160GB IDE, 120 GB IDE and 120 GB IDE. this system will be used as as audio production workstation. i was thinking use 1 of the 120's for "/", the 160 for /home but i dont know what's best to do with the third 120 GB
[04:38] <Gorroth> ubuntu-studio: I think you should check your LUKS partition.  I don't think gparted did what you think it did.  http://gparted.org/features.php --search for luks
[04:38] <holstein> andrew2: sure.. the question is for a command line irc client.. and xchat is not one
[04:38] <andrew2> It can be
[04:38] <andrew2> Check the link
[04:38] <Gorroth> your lvm and luks are probably in an inconsistent state
[04:39] <rtnb> kriskropd: actually I can't use that because that would modify all my external links too which I dont necessarily want to do
[04:39] <andrew2> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3299
[04:39] <ubuntu-studio> Gorroth,  it's possible. after resizing the drive i ended up just deleting all the partitions and starting over
[04:39] <kriskropd> rtnb: I didn't understand that from original question (plus I'm a bit tired, sorry if It was my mistake)
[04:39] <andrew2> Peep game
[04:39] <holstein> andrew2: i did.. and its not.. that is, as stated, and read, inputting text from shell/terminal to xchat.. not a CLI chat client
[04:39] <Gorroth> That's... completely the opposite of what I want.
[04:39] <andrew2> Don't put
[04:40] <andrew2> Don't player hate
[04:40] <ubuntu-studio> but it asked for the encryption key and took 45 minutes doing something
[04:40] <rtnb> kriskropd: yea im just trying to change this specific link to https.  from what i understood if I used pipes i don't need to escape the slashes, but idk first time doin it
[04:40] <kriskropd> rtnb: you can still do it tho , just include more unique address data and escape the forward slasshes  so '/' becomes '\\/'
[04:40] <andrew2> Let's you chat from a terminal
[04:40] <Gorroth> But then you ended up wiping out partitions
[04:40] <andrew2> And send the cmds to xchat
[04:40] <holstein> andrew2: sure. but that is not the question.. the question was for a CLI chat client..
[04:40] <ubuntu-studio> b4 i did that, gparted rescaned the drive and at least had the appearance that it worked
[04:40] <rtnb> kriskropd: why 2 backslashes?  I thought just one escapes it?
[04:41] <andrew2> Damn right hater
[04:41] <andrew2> Doing back flips on ya moms grave son.
[04:41] <kriskropd> rtnb: sorry, you are right, you only need one
[04:41] <holstein> andrew2: feel free and chat in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel..
[04:42] <kriskropd> guys I'm really tired I need to go = have fun
[04:42] <andrew2> Eat this vapor
[04:42] <andrew2> Night
[04:42] <xpistos> kriskropd: okay. sorry for the delay: http://pastebin.com/CUZYkmy4
[04:42] <xpistos> that is the out of the apt-get
[04:43] <makudesu> hello
[04:43] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[04:43] <makudesu> hahah
[04:43] <makudesu> im new here
[04:43] <andrew2> I'm a baby
[04:43] <andrew2> Wawahhhhh
[04:44] <ubuntu-studio> can we help you? this is the ubuntu support channel. for general ubuntu chat check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:44] <andrew2> Red bar homes
[04:44] <makudesu> im juxt wandering if u guys cud tell me some c programming boards here
[04:44] <cfhowlett> andrew2 ask your ubuntu questions - or go play elsewhere
[04:44] <andrew2> Www.blank.com
[04:45] <andrew2> Play in traffic
[04:45] <xpistos> andrew2: dude, so of us actually need help
[04:45] <makudesu> anyone
[04:45] <cfhowlett> !patience|makudesu
[04:45] <holstein> makudesu: try a programming channel
[04:46] <makudesu> holstein can u tell me one
[04:46] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Still "./usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-62/include/linux/netfilter/nf_conntrack_h323_asn1.h'): No space left on device"//Again need to know what partition is full,, again show -> df -h , df -i <- to start.
[04:46] <andrew2> Dude stoner dude man open source is like cosmic and stuff.
[04:46] <makudesu> please
[04:46] <Gorroth> ubuntu-studio: Yeah, but I don't think it worked for you, from what you've said.  You shouldn't say it worked fo ryou if it didn't.
[04:47] <bjrohan> Adzz: you still there and able to help? I tried something else with the script same thing, but I run the same thing after boot, and everything is fine
[04:47] <andrew2> Whoa Linux like is some next level stuff man
[04:47] <holstein> makudesu:  ##c ##programming
[04:47] <Adzz> bjrohan: I'm still here. So is it working, or?
[04:47] <andrew2>  Hash tag weed smoke
[04:48] <andrew2> This room is groovy
[04:48] <makudesu> thanks holstein
[04:48] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/N6YkutVF
[04:48] <bjrohan> Adzz: It is not. Here is a scipt in my home folder /home/bukkitserver/craftbukkit  :http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734834/
[04:49] <Bashing-om> xpistos: ,, looking at your N6YkutVF .
[04:49] <andrew2> Weed linux
[04:49] <bjrohan> Adzz:  If I run this script after boot, it works just fine, the server starts, no error messages
[04:49] <holstein> !ot | andrew2
[04:49] <andrew2> He's a not dude
[04:49] <ubuntu-studio> i have no reason to believe it did not work, it asked for the encryption key, it performed the operations and returned a success instead of a fail
[04:49] <andrew2> Love the man
[04:49] <Adzz> bjrohan: ok, and where is "craftbukkit-1.7.9-R0.2.jar" located? In /home/bukkitserver/craftbukkit also?
[04:50] <sanytt> Hello, sorry if this is a stupid question but does anyone else who uses nethogs spot random connections from 'root' to strange destinations that start with ellipses, and are followed by IP addresses, in my case addresses from mountain view, CA
[04:50] <andrew2> Fight the ops brother
[04:50] <xangua> andrew2: please stop
[04:50] <Adzz> bjrohan: I've just gotta reboot my PC, be back in a sec
[04:50] <bjrohan> Adzz: when I run this upstart script I get that error message when starting the server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734841/
[04:50] <bjrohan> Adzz: yes
[04:50] <cfhowlett> xangua don't feed trolls.  tyvm
[04:50] <xangua> he seemed nice at first
[04:51] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Did you notice the problem > "/dev/sda2             580496  579800     696  100% /" out of inodes, and can not create any additional files. // All you can do is start deleting files .. as many small ones as possible .. remove old kernels and do general clean up.
[04:51] <cfhowlett> xangua by the 3 post, he made his intent clear.  moving on ...
[04:51] <andrew2> Dude stop being part of the big government man your a damn bummer man
[04:51] <shmerby> Well holstein, if ubuntu 14 wasn't so laggy I wouldn't have gone back to UStuido
[04:52] <shmerby> Ubuntu studio
[04:52] <andrew2> Dude my intent is like ri smoke more frigging weed dog
[04:52] <holstein> shmerby: 14.04
[04:52] <xpistos> Bashing-om: the two outputs are showing different percentages
[04:52] <bryan> I replied holstein
[04:52] <shmerby> holstein: Same version, super lag.
[04:52] <holstein> shmerby: its not "laggy" here, though, im sure you have a hardware specific circumstance.
[04:52] <andrew2> Purple haze Linux would str8 up rock
[04:52] <andrew2> Your mom lags
[04:53] <shmerby> holstein: I tried RAM Method USB and DVD
[04:53] <cfhowlett> holstein about the end of the rope, yes?
[04:53] <Adzz> bjrohan: Ok, back
[04:53] <holstein> shmerby: sure.. but, thats not addressing hardware support, which was likely the issue
[04:53] <andrew2> Dude apple computer was built on like acid and the music of the doors man
[04:53] <bjrohan> Adzz: yes the jar file is in that saem dir as the bash script
[04:54] <andrew2> Yeah have seen me on TV dawg ?
[04:54] <shmerby> holstein: true I got high end memory but when you get to the motherboard and CPU its gets bad but GPU is top of line.
[04:54] <Gorroth> My CPU is an AMD FX 6350, and I like it a lot.
[04:54] <bjrohan> Adzz:  When I call that same script in my upstart script the server starts and throws that error 10x/ second, here is my upstart script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734841/
[04:54] <andrew2> I was on the seventies show tripping ballz yo
[04:54] <holstein> shmerby: "top of the line" doesnt matter.. it only matters if it provides linux support or not
[04:54] <Gorroth> I forget what the mobo is right now, but it's a really nice one for the price.
[04:54] <Adzz> bjrohan: Ok, could you send me the pastebin again which had your bash code in it, for the craftbukkit.sh
[04:54] <andrew2> My CPU rocks man.
[04:55] <mido> do you know guys that windows 9 will come on april 2015 :D
[04:55] <Gorroth> "top of the line" does matter, but it should still support linux
[04:55] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I am not sure why it shows 100% on one and 70% on the other
[04:55] <shmerby> andrew2: how are  not banned?
[04:55] <Gorroth> I woudln't want crap hardware that supports linux; I went through that a decade ago in my college years.
[04:55] <andrew2> Windoze suxor get Linux freeeeedom
[04:55] <cfhowlett> mido #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:55] <mido> ubuntu is complicated
[04:56] <bjrohan> Adzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734834/
[04:56] <andrew2> Cause I'm awesome and bring you joyful expression of humor
[04:56] <cfhowlett> mido ask your ubuntu support question
[04:56] <andrew2> Ubuntu is easy
[04:56] <bjrohan> Adzz: again running that bash, the server starts perfectly
[04:56] <Gorroth> Personally, I'm not a fan of that bash script.
[04:56] <shmerby> Mido: If you want superuser control over the internet and PC take linux (red pill) If you want no control just download and use then use windows. (blue pill)
[04:56] <Gorroth> Here
[04:56] <Bashing-om> xpistos: the output of df -i shows 'inode' usage. each file created gets it's own inode - at 100% usage there are no inodes left to creat any additional files.
[04:56] <andrew2> Ubuntu makes there own guides in case a Tard can't figure it out.
[04:57] <andrew2> Noob
[04:57] <Adzz> bjrohan: try this for your upstart http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734868/
[04:57] <Gorroth> Here's the reason: it uses readlink, which is different on OS X, Solaris, etc.  I would rather that script be in python so you get platform abstraction.
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !ops | andrew2
[04:57] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Let me check on what I can get rid of
[04:57] <pdo_fn14> mido: I will ban everything to using it again. Open source is like puzzle.
[04:57] <Bashing-om> xpistos: creat/create
[04:58] <xpistos> Bashing-om: what is that?
[04:58] <genii> andrew2: Don't use derogatory terms like "Tard" or you will be removed
[04:58] <andrew2> Bashing in skulls
[04:58] <mido> pdo_fn14 : problem in ubuntu that have lots of order and no Games like on windows and ps4
[04:59] <oldvirus> wanker
[04:59] <andrew2> Wine
[04:59] <xangua> mido: do you have a support question¿
[04:59] <andrew2> Wanker mega ultra
[04:59] <genii> andrew2: Also, this is a support channel. If you just want to yack, there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:59] <cfhowlett> mido are you serious?  steam has HUNDREDS of games
[04:59] <cfhowlett> !steam | mido
[04:59] <genii> oldvirus: That goes for you also.
[04:59] <mido> xangua : yes, can i using 3d unity on linux ?
[05:00] <holstein> mido: if your hardware supports linux you can
[05:00] <andrew2> Back
[05:00] <mido> you mean games like thief , assassin creed ?
[05:00] <andrew2> Steam
[05:00] <cfhowlett> !steam | lido
[05:00] <dcope> hey all, is there a way to rm a bunch of directories matching a pattern?
[05:00] <holstein> mido: anyone or any company can release what they like for linux.. as them for a version
[05:00] <andrew2> Basicly
[05:00] <dcope> ie remove all directories starting with a "9"
[05:01] <mido> ok my problem there iam not familiar with linux and ifeel like iam living on home not mine
[05:01] <andrew2> Remove mido
[05:01] <Bashing-om> xpistos: typo correction on my part 'create' // you are looking at device sda, which is the '/' directory in this case // might be possible to remove kernels and headers ( maybe, as installing kernels is what showed up the situation) .. I am hesitant to offer ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' untill the package manager is stable.
[05:01] <oldvirus> steam and the cloud
[05:01] <andrew2> Lol
[05:01] <mido> ireaaly want to know more about linux but ifound it complicated
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !manual|mido
[05:01] <holstein> mido: sure.. it takes time.. what are you familiar with? windows?
[05:01] <andrew2> I'm steam mad I don't like the cloud
[05:01] <xpistos> I tried autoremove and it prompted me to -f too
[05:02] <mido> yes
[05:02] <holstein> mido: think about how long you used windows "as-is" without installing much, or a game.. and how many years you have invested in using it.. using linux is different and will require a similar investment of time
[05:02] <andrew2> Got some cash mido ?
[05:02] <xpistos> I also tried to get rid of the old kernals sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-3 ... no luck
[05:02] <andrew2isabully> andrew2: why you mean?
[05:03] <mido> andrew2 : why ?
[05:03] <andrew2> Buy Ubuntu for dummies not being mean
[05:03] <holstein> mido: please ignore andrew2
[05:03] <bjrohan> Adzz: it ran it as root :-(
[05:03] <andrew2isabully> holstein: how do you mute peeps?
[05:03] <Bashing-om> xpistos: understandable .. ummmm.. we can try to remove kernels and headers and see what results .. show us -> dpkg -l | grep linux- <- . maybe "dpkg -P" can deal with it.
[05:04] <mido> holstein : its not you who tell me ignore who O.o
[05:04] <holstein> !freenode | andrew2isabully
[05:04] <holstein> mido: it was not a command.. but a request.. i even used "please"..
[05:04] <bjrohan> Adzz: okay not as root, the java PID is run as bukkitserver. But when it loaded it failed, and put the log (tha normally goes in /bukkitserver/craftbukkit/log) in /log
[05:04] <andrew2isabully> !guidelines
[05:05] <mido> holstein : ooh ok my fault
[05:06] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7734900/
[05:06] <xpistos> That was alot of kernels
[05:06] <xpistos> I thought I cleaned those out
[05:07] <Bashing-om> xpistos: looking at your /7734900/.
[05:07] <mido> holstein : why your name is colored with yellow ??
[05:07] <Adzz> bjrohan: Is that a big issue? We can redirect the output of stderr and stdout manually but I'm just wondering if it could cause any other issues...
[05:07] <mido> holstein : are you admin there or somthing ?
[05:07] <andrew2isabully> mido:  Because we are awesome.
[05:07] <holstein> mido: im not sure how you have your irc client configured
[05:07] <jak2000> cant create wp-content/uploads/2014/07 folder, the "ls -l" show me these results: drwxr-xr-x 2 jak ftp 4096 Jun 22 17:40 uploads   wich is wrong?
[05:08] <mido> irc ??? what do you mean
[05:08] <andrew2isabully> !guidelines l mido
[05:08] <holstein> mido: whatever irc chat client you have can be configured, likely, to display names in colors..
[05:09] <andrew2isabully> !guide mido
[05:10] <mido> ok iam downloading it
[05:10] <andrew2isabully> Hey guys
[05:10] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Not as many kernels as I had expected. post back to the channel -> uname -r <- so we know what kernel you are booting with, MUST not remove that one !.
[05:10] <andrew2isabully> #ubottu
[05:10] <bjrohan> Adzz: I suppose not, I had just figured that meant things weren't running right, but I do suppose they are. How do I redirect those 2?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> andrew2isabully ask your ubuntu question
[05:10] <xpistos> Bashing-om: 2.6.32-57-generic-pae
[05:11] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I tried to get rid of 2.6.32-32 no luck same dependancy stuff
[05:11] <Bashing-om> xpistos: k, hang onn while I craft up the command to remove the kernels. brb.
[05:12] <Adzz> bjrohan: at the end of the exec line put " &> /path/to/log/file"
[05:12] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Sometimes I type to quick
[05:12] <bjrohan> Adzz: And then lastly, I want it to run in a detached screen with name server: screen -dmS server _______
[05:12] <bjrohan> okay will do
[05:12] <Adzz> bjrohan: im not sure about that, sorry
[05:12] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I was using sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-2.6.32-32
[05:13] <mido> what's the most common system on america ??
[05:13] <cfhowlett> mido windows
[05:13] <cfhowlett> mido ask your UBUNTU support questions
[05:14] <mido> i just want to chat nothing more
[05:14] <makudexu> hi
[05:14] <cfhowlett> !ot|mido
[05:14] <Bashing-om> xpistos: With no head room // apt-get may not have been able to work - that command normally shoould have worked .. will try the lower level 'dpkg' // work'n on it .
[05:15] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I appreciate it
[05:15] <Shmerby> cfhowlett: are you on a QWERT keyboard?
[05:15] <cfhowlett> Shmerby ?  standard american style laptop keyboard ...
[05:16] <Shmerby> cfhowlett: where is that straight line thing?
[05:16]  * xpistos is getting annoyed with Sherby or Andrew2 or who ever she is
[05:16] <cfhowlett> Shmerby above Enter
[05:16] <mido>  "/topic"
[05:16] <Shmerby> !op | xpistos
[05:17] <Shmerby> !guidelines | xpistos
[05:17] <Ben64> Shmerby, xpistos: relax
[05:17] <xpistos> Ben64: Sorry. I am just dealing with a real issue. Won
[05:17] <Shmerby> Ben64: hes is blaming for nothing.
[05:17] <xpistos> Ben64: What happen again
[05:17] <xpistos> Ben64: Won't happen again
[05:17] <Shmerby> xpistos: what did I do?
[05:17] <makudexu> kill
[05:17] <genii> Shmerby: Please don't abuse the !ops or you'll have to go.
[05:18] <makudexu> :ps
[05:18] <Shmerby> But I only did it twice.
[05:18] <Shmerby> Then stopped.
[05:18] <makudexu> hey guys how can i ype a bash command while using irc
[05:18] <genii> Shmerby: Someone being annoyed with you is not an emergency.
[05:19] <Shmerby> !bash
[05:19] <Shmerby> That solved my question thanks ubottu.
[05:20] <Ben64> makudexu: depends on your client, but sometimes you can do /exec <command>
[05:20] <makudexu> i dont have gui now please tell how how
[05:20] <q0> where can i ask a terminal related questio
[05:20] <mido> how can i change the channel to other channel speaking arabic ??
[05:20] <makudexu> oh thanks it works
[05:20] <cfhowlett> !arabic
[05:20] <genii> q0: If it's a scripting questin, probably #bash
[05:21] <genii> cfhowlett: Those channels are empty
[05:21] <makudexu> bg % 24193
[05:21] <genii> mido: Unfortunately, the Arabic channels have no helpers in them.
[05:21] <makudexu> sorry
[05:21] <q0> no, just how to set the cursor focus
[05:21] <Bashing-om> xpistos: 1st of three -> sudo dpkg -P linux-image-2.6.32-{33,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56}-generic-pae <- let's see how that runs.
[05:21] <shmerby> #ubottu
[05:22] <genii> q0: Then here is fine :)
[05:22] <xpistos> Hey. Just as a public apology, I thought  shmerby was the guy spamming before Andrew2. Sorry dude.
[05:22] <q0> so how do i set cursor focus :)
[05:23] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Looks promising so far
[05:24] <mido> can the system linux can be attacked by hackers like in windows ?
[05:24] <q0> no
[05:24] <Bashing-om> xpistos: next is the headers // both types // workin on the command.
[05:25] <mido> so linux have no mistakes at all !!! amazing
[05:25] <genii> mido: There are attacks, yes, but not in the way Windows machines are usually attacked, like with viruses.
[05:25] <q0> god made it so
[05:25] <xpistos> Bashing-om: It is just chuggin right along
[05:25] <mido> genii : so what can i do to protect my self ?
[05:25] <Channel_Service> !flam
[05:25] <Channel_Service> !help
[05:25] <genii> mido: Unless you are running a linux server, you probably don't need to worry about it.
[05:26] <Channel_Service> su
[05:26] <genii> mido: To protect against attacks, use only packages that come from offical repositories when possible.
[05:26] <xpistos> Bashing-om: it also looks like there was some Vbox stuff affecting the kernals as well
[05:27] <Channel_Service> Whats the code for removing
[05:27] <bjrohan> Adzz: The screen side of the script worked, however the logging didn't therefore it didn't start the server correctly. I rebooted, and will post the error message here. when it reboots
[05:27] <genii> Channel_Service: rm
[05:27] <Channel_Service> sudo apt-get remove?
[05:27] <genii> Channel_Service: For a package, yes
[05:28] <Bashing-om> 2nd of 3 -> sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-2.6.32-{32,33,34,35,38,39,40,41,42,44,45,46,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56}-generic-pae <- //know nothing about vbox.//
[05:29] <Channel_Service> IDle
[05:29] <Channel_Service> !idle
[05:29] <mido> whats is this problem (This program must be run as root (uid = 0) )
[05:29] <genii> Channel_Service: Try: /away
[05:29] <bjrohan> Adzz:  you here?
[05:30] <genii> mido: What are you trying to do?
[05:30] <mido> KVPM (iam trieng to open this program)
[05:31] <genii> mido: That's for KDE. If you are using KDE/Kubuntu, run it with kdesudo
[05:31] <genii> mido: Like kdesudo kvpm
[05:31] <xpistos> Bashing-om: it went a while and then ended here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7734973/
[05:32] <mido> sorry idon't understand ... its my second day on ubuntu so!
[05:33] <genii> !sudo
[05:33] <mido> genii : ok thanks
[05:34] <genii> mido: Do you know what you are using for your desktop? Regular Ubuntu uses Unity, but you can install different ones like KDE if you installed kubuntu-desktop or XFCE if you installed xubuntu-desktop, etc
[05:34] <genii> mido: Different desktop interfaces have different ways of interaction.
[05:36] <mido> how can i know which desktop iam using
[05:36] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Chance are we are looking good.. let's se what the statis is now with a new -> df -i <-.
[05:36] <Bashing-om> see
[05:36] <vychune> im having trouble writing files to /var/www. Neither the admin or I can write to it. We've even done the 777 dumba** permissions and still cannot write. Any idea why?
[05:36] <diverdude> Hi, when installing ubuntu from scratch it is born with a user that has /home/username. This user belongs to a group called username. Is this group a sudo group? And also, is this default user also a member of other groups?
[05:38] <genii> mido: If you google "unity screenshot" and then "kde screenshot" you can probably see the difference
[05:38] <vychune> diverdude, it is not a sudo group
[05:38] <genii> mido: Also, if you issue: apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop  it will tell you if it's installed
[05:38] <diverdude> vychune, ok...so its just the user which is a sudo and then member of that default group with the same name as the username .... and thats it right?
[05:39] <vychune> diverdude, righto
[05:39] <xpistos> it still shows it as 100%
[05:39] <xpistos> I was able to run apt-get update ok
[05:39] <mido> iwant to change to kde desktop .. it looks familiar with me . how please ?
[05:40] <jak2000> how to solve this problem: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu1204
[05:40] <genii> mido: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install lightdm-kde-greeter
[05:41] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Not good ! // -> dpkg -l grep ;inux-image <- see if the images have been removed.
[05:41] <diverdude> vychune, thx
[05:41] <Bashing-om> linux-image** / tired, not doing to well myself .
[05:41] <bjrohan> I have an upstart script that sets runs as an unprivileged user. When the script stops I want to remove the upstart log (as the script starts a server, and generates a big upstart log file), which I need to be root for. how do I go about doing this?
[05:42] <genii> mido: Then after your next restart, you can choose from the login which desktop you want. I have in the command there to change the login to the default Kubuntu one as well
[05:42] <vychune> jak2000, sounds like your hostname is wrong
[05:42] <mido> genii : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:42] <mido> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:43] <genii> mido: Your machine is probably running updates right now.
[05:43] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7735010/
[05:43] <vychune> mido, check if another install is running, bruh
[05:43] <mido> genii : ah yes you are right
[05:43] <jak2000> vychune: sudo vim /etc/hostname    change the name right?
[05:44] <vychune> jak2000, i believe so
[05:44] <genii> jak2000: Or just use the hostname command
[05:44] <jak2000> chenged the name , bbut command: hostname continue say: ubuntu1204  why
[05:44] <jak2000> ?
[05:44] <Bashing-om> xpistos: look'n at your /7735010.
[05:45] <jak2000> jak@ubuntu1204:/var/www/altasierraorg.com/wp/wp-content$ sudo hostname jakServer  say me: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu1204 why?
[05:46] <vychune> genii, jak2000 dns?
[05:46] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Now run ammended ->  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-2.6.32-{32,33,34,35,38,39,40,41,42,44,45,46,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,}-generic-pae // will have to fix the kernel image (56) directly.
[05:46] <genii> jak2000: You also need to change the name in the /etc/hosts
[05:47] <hoijui> my touchpad is stuck in "scroll mode" somehow (using it scrolls, instead of moving the mouse pointer)
[05:48] <Bashing-om> xpistos: looks like we removed the kernwl you were booting on // remember I did ask what kernel you were booting.
[05:48] <hoijui> i dont know if it is some application, or the OS
[05:48] <hoijui> how to make it move the mouse pointer again?
[05:48] <xpistos> it was 56 I thought
[05:48] <vychune> im having trouble writing files to /var/www. Neither the admin or I can write to it. We've even done the 777 dumba** permissions and still cannot write. Any idea why?
[05:48] <jak2000> genii done.
[05:48] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Is there anything I can do to put it back?
[05:49] <genii> xpistos: Are you able to boot at all?
[05:49] <xpistos> I have not rebooted since so not sure?
[05:49] <Bashing-om> xpistos: we will put it back here directly .. that last completes, and one other sequence and we try and rebuild.
[05:50] <xpistos> it is done
[05:50] <genii> xpistos: Then just do: sudo apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[05:50] <jak2000> genni i try upload a file on my wordpress installation, when try say me these error: Unable to create directory wp-content/uploads/2014/07. Is its parent directory writable by the server?  i try:  jak@ubuntu1204:/var/www/altasierraorg.com/wp/wp-content$ sudo chmod 757 uploads/ -R      but continue the error.. any advice?
[05:50] <genii> xpistos: And your currently running kernel will be reinstalled
[05:51] <Bashing-om> xpistos: ->  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-2.6.32-{32,33,34,35,38,39,40,41,42,44,45,46,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55, // may have already been removed, not sure .. but cheap insurance to run and see.
[05:52] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Do I run that or should I do the install command genii rec'd
[05:52] <Bashing-om> xpistos: correction:  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-2.6.32-{32,33,34,35,38,39,40,41,42,44,45,46,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,} <- .
[05:53] <genii> xpistos: If it's headers, just use same command I gave but substitute -image- for -headers-
[05:53] <genii> vice-versa rather
[05:54] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Yeah, soon as this last completes, that one and we need to get the header files straightened up too.
[05:54] <xpistos> done
[05:54] <xpistos> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-headers-2.6.32- which isn't installed.
[05:55] <xpistos> Bashing-om: but it looks like everything else ran fine
[05:58] <Bashing-om> xpistos: wait 2 // whileI check .. brb.
[05:59] <xpistos> Bashing-om: to be clear, I didn't run genii's command yet though
[05:59] <vychune> ubnoobtu, cool username
[05:59] <Bashing-om> xpistos: No problem .. let's try this first -> sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic < - .
[05:59] <ubnoobtu> hey all, Is there any way to hide all the bars in all the windows. Hi btw.
[05:59] <ubnoobtu> vychune: thank you, im noobish
[06:02] <vychune> change your theme? ubnoobtu
[06:02] <ubnoobtu> which would be the best theme to avoid all bars, Even bars on windows, Can they auto hide?
[06:06] <xangua> ubnoobtu: what kind of bars are you refering to
[06:08] <xpistos> Bashing-om: ok that is done
[06:08] <ubnoobtu> Say if Im playing a game, I'd like to remove the bar up above it, and the title bar for the game, so that even in window mode, its like in fullscreen. To allow me to bring up docs, videos or anything in the forefront,
[06:08] <ubnoobtu> I'd like to have it so that they auto hide or require a hotkey to be pressed to reveal them
[06:09] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Great, let's see where we stand -> sudo dpkg -l | grep linux- , df -i <- .
[06:09] <bjrohan> In an upstart script, how do I return permission back to root after an unprivileged user?
[06:11] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7735157/
[06:11] <xpistos> Bashing-om: And uname -r gives me 2.6.32-57-generic-pae
[06:14] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Look'n at your /7735157/ ... maybe the problem was no -57 headers file installed ( // ) // I be back after seeing the new status. and we do final cleanup.
[06:15] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Ok
[06:15] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Holding Steady
[06:19] <anton02> how do you install intel 32bit opengl compatibility libraries?
[06:19] <anton02> most likely your 32-bit OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile ", version "1.4 (3.0 Mesa 10.1.3)").
[06:21] <Bashing-om> xpistos: still no -57 headers, but let's house clean, see if we can update/upgrade then to correct the issue (??) -> sudo apt-get autoclean , sudo apt-get autoremove , sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , apt-get -f install <- .
[06:23] <jerrt> any idea where I can ask about an ssh issue? key pair works on ubuntu, doesn't work when copied over to win box. so not exactly an ubuntu thing...
[06:23] <anton02> how do you install intel 32bit opengl compatibility libraries?
[06:23] <anton02> most likely your 32-bit OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile ", version "1.4 (3.0 Mesa 10.1.3)").
[06:26] <xpistos> Bashing-om: still going strong on upgrade
[06:27] <anton02> how do you install intel 32bit opengl compatibility libraries?
[06:27] <hateball> !patience | anton02
[06:28] <hateball> anton02: Do you get this message starting some application?
[06:28] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Looking good then ! .. may still have to resort to  genii's command and give the package manager a helping hand, we will see.
[06:29] <anton02> i will install this and see if it fixes libegl1-mesa-drivers-dbg
[06:30] <xpistos> Bashing-om: running dist-upgrade
[06:30] <anddam> I have a 12.04LTS with "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" set to LTS, why isn't it suggesting there's 14.04LTS out?
[06:30] <hateball> anton02: A googling suggests libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 but that should already be installed if you're using Intel iirc
[06:30] <hateball> anddam: It won't until 14.04.1
[06:30] <anddam> hateball: how so? isn't 14.04 a version as well?
[06:30] <anddam> just asking
[06:31] <hateball> anddam: It's apparently how it is, I don't remember the logic behind it. There are ways of forcing an upgrade tho
[06:31] <anddam> hateball: I found this laptop not used for like a year and now I'm updating it, I checked the website and saw 14.04LTS
[06:31] <xpistos> Bashing-om: that is done and no on to apt-get -f install
[06:31] <anddam> hateball: sure, I can remove the LTS only setting
[06:33] <xpistos> Bashing-om: that looks good
[06:33] <Bashing-om> xpistos: so far so good, what now does 'dpkg' see for problems ( if any) -> sudo dpkg -C <-.
[06:33] <anddam> oh it actually suggests me 12.10
[06:33] <anddam> should I go through each release while upgrading?
[06:33] <hateball> anddam: Yes, that's how it goes. But you can "do-release-upgrade -d", it should put you on 14.04 and not 14.10
[06:34] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7735229/
[06:34] <hateball> anddam: ... or wait for the patched 14.04, aka 14.04.1 :)
[06:34] <anton02> hateball: the package i mentioned fixed mah problem, having said that im using mint 17. so maybe it's not auto installed like in ubunut
[06:34] <Bashing-om> anddam: The upgrade to 14.04 will not be available 'til the 1st point release 14.04.1 July 27th.
[06:37] <m000gle> Is there a command to reset the window scaling to 1.  The scaling was increased and the Appearance window is too large for the screen, making it impossible to change via the GUI.
[06:38] <Bashing-om> xpistos: looks like we do not now need to be concerned with the -57 headers file, huh .. -> dpkg -C <- (??) .
[06:38] <xpistos> dpkg -C just returned a line
[06:38] <xpistos> no data
[06:39] <xpistos> Bashing-om: should I try and reboot it?
[06:39] <Bashing-om> xpistos: All fine good and dany .. reboot and let's see the result ..
[06:39] <Bashing-om> dandy*
[06:39] <xpistos> cross you toes!
[06:41] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Faith !
[06:41] <moussa> hey gogoat welcome back bro....thanks for the help
[06:41] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Smoke 'em if you Got 'em!
[06:42] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I am ssh in the box once again
[06:42] <gogoat10^2> lol
[06:42] <moussa> i managed to restore all my files thanks to you....
[06:43] <moussa> what *.sh do?
[06:43] <kaitanya> moussa: a sh/bash script
[06:44] <kaitanya> moussa: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[06:46] <kaitanya> moussa: u can start with this one for example http://blog.twistedcode.org/2008/03/customizing-your-bash-prompt.html
[06:46] <moussa> oh ok thanks
[06:46] <moussa> too hard for me
[06:46] <Bashing-om> xpistos: We do good work // At a later time, will have to once more remove images and headers // for now, finer than a frog's hair !
[06:46] <moussa> running on fumes here
[06:46] <winsoff> Tiananmen Square?
[06:46] <gogoat10^2> custom colors
[06:47] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Thank you sir. You are a gentlemen and a scholar!
[06:47] <KODL> tiananmen square
[06:48] <Bashing-om> xpistos: :-) .. I had good teachers !
[06:48] <KODL> tiananmen square
[06:50] <gogoat10^2> sudo apt-get install ping-pong
[06:50] <moussa> lol
[06:51] <moussa> not found....
[06:51] <gogoat10^2> use aptitude search 'ping-pong'
[06:51] <moussa> oh
[06:51] <gogoat10^2> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[06:52] <gogoat10^2> ... then :)... aptitude install ping-pong
[06:52] <moussa> sudo apt-cache search ping|grep pong?
[06:52] <gogoat10^2> grep -i ping_pong
[06:53] <moussa> ok
[06:53] <moussa> sudo updatedb
[06:53] <moussa> sudo grep i ping_pong
[06:54] <moussa> oh
[06:54] <moussa> sudo grep -i ping_pong
[06:54] <gogoat10^2> .. and then apt-get install ping-pong ppm repositorys
[06:54] <moussa> ok
[06:54] <moussa> 1sec
[06:54] <moussa> ....
[06:54] <moussa> why am i installing ping-pong?
[06:54] <gogoat10^2> .. 30 sec.. 31
[06:55] <moussa> huh!
[06:55] <gogoat10^2> cause no one knows how to install traceroute
[06:55] <mido> hi guys , ican't install graphic driver !!! any help
[06:55] <gogoat10^2> close enough
[06:57] <moussa> mido> what kind of graphic card you have?
[07:03] <mido> mousa : ati radeon hd 4350 series
[07:03] <mido> moussa : ati radeon hd 4350 series
[07:04] <mido> i downloaded (linux-amd-catalyst-14.6-beta-v1.0-may23.zip) but idon't know the next step
[07:05] <Ben64> !ati | mido
[07:10] <Bashing-om> mido: AMD has dropped support for the 2X/3X/4X series of cards. After 12.04.1 release there are no proprietary drivers available.
[07:10] <leeyaa> hello
[07:11] <leeyaa> is there an easy way to make apt install packages and configuration files at a custom directory ?
[07:11] <leeyaa> without rebuilding from source package
[07:12] <bazhang> leeyaa, why would you possibly need that
[07:12] <leeyaa> bazhang: i have a custom build software that i am going to upgrade its dependancies and packages to use default versions coming with ubuntu 14.04 LTS. currently everything is at /usr/local
[07:13] <leeyaa> my question is is it possible to change that
[07:13] <A_Pickle> Hi.
[07:13] <bazhang> what custom software is this leeyaa
[07:13] <A_Pickle> So I'm trying to set up a LAMP stack on my Ubuntu Server, and I'm having trouble with MySQL.
[07:13] <untitled> maybe
[07:14] <leeyaa> bazhang: what do you mean ? it is custom build, like build and designed 10y ago
[07:14] <A_Pickle> It wants the password for the root user, but... Ubuntu doesn't ask me to set a password for the root user.
[07:14] <A_Pickle> I never set it.
[07:14] <bazhang> it's sudo
[07:14] <leeyaa> atm we are using ubuntu 6 and we are upgrading to ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[07:14] <bazhang> 6.06?
[07:14] <A_Pickle> sudo is the default root password on ubuntu?
[07:14] <leeyaa> yeah
[07:14] <leeyaa> so is it possible to set custom paths ?
[07:15] <bazhang> use sudo, dont set a root
[07:15] <A_Pickle> Oh
[07:15] <A_Pickle> Yeah, I get that, but MySQL is asking me for the root password nonetheless.
[07:15] <A_Pickle> I'm supposed to be able to push enter if there is no root password (which there isn't, because I'm not using root)
[07:15] <leeyaa> A_Pickle: mysql has its own password and you can easily reset it if needed
[07:15] <A_Pickle> Okay, maybe I should back up.
[07:16] <A_Pickle> I'm trying to set up an OwnCloud server.
[07:16] <wrd> is it possible to mount an ext3 file system image as a user and writing files with uid 0 (root) (I want to avoid fakeroot usage)
[07:16] <A_Pickle> I've installed apache, and I'd moved on to installing and configuring mysql
[07:16] <hateball> A_Pickle: mysql has its own users, the db root is different from your system root
[07:17] <A_Pickle> Hmm...
[07:17] <k1l> A_Pickle: "ubuntu 6" is ubuntu 6.06? that is end-of-life since 2011
[07:17] <A_Pickle> I'm using Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS
[07:17] <bazhang> k1l, its leeyaa
[07:17] <leeyaa> k1l: im the one using ubuntu 6.06, and im going to upgrade stacks to 14.04 LTS
[07:18] <leeyaa> well, rebuild them from scratch
[07:18] <k1l> A_Pickle: oh sorry, was mixing nicknames :/
[07:18] <leeyaa> but i need to know how to set custom paths for packages
[07:18] <ikonia> leeyaa: how did you set the paths in the packages you built the first time ?
[07:18] <leeyaa> ikonia: build them manually, no debs
[07:18] <ikonia> leeyaa: so wht are you trying to do now ?
[07:18] <k1l> leeyaa: honestly: make a backup of stuff you still need  and make a clean install of 14.04. that is way faster and easier
[07:18] <leeyaa> and thats what we want to avoid now
[07:19] <ikonia> leeyaa: exactly what do you want to do ? make .deb's ?
[07:19] <leeyaa> ikonia: no, use default ubuntu packages instead of our custom build ones. i cant replace all but i need to replace stuff like apache, memcached etc
[07:19] <ikonia> leeyaa: so what's stopping you ?
[07:19] <ikonia> sorry this is quite hard to understand what you actually want ?
[07:20] <leeyaa> ikonia: all the software is located at /usr/local including some dependancies and libraries. i need to know if it is possible to change apt paths
[07:20] <ikonia> leeyaa: no
[07:20] <helmut_> hi
[07:20] <leeyaa> ikonia: no at all ?
[07:20] <ikonia> leeyaa: the packages you install have the paths the files they use as part of the package
[07:21] <leeyaa> ikonia: what if i rebuild it from source deb package ?
[07:21] <ikonia> leeyaa: then they will not be the ubuntu packages, they will be your custom packages
[07:21] <leeyaa> ikonia: i see
[07:21] <leeyaa> so not possible to customise paths, darn
[07:22] <ikonia> I don't know why you need custom paths, sorry, I don't understand why you need custom paths
[07:22] <leeyaa> ikonia: because whatever software we are using is looking at /usr/local/whatever
[07:22] <ikonia> leeyaa: change it then
[07:22] <leeyaa> not possible, too long to explain
[07:23] <ikonia> leeyaa: there are certainly much bigger things to be aware of such as the differences between (for example) apache 1 in 6.06 or apache 2 in 14.04
[07:23] <ikonia> that can have a significant impact on your application
[07:23] <leeyaa> ikonia: its apache 2.1, some are upgraded some time ago
[07:23] <ikonia> leeyaa: again so 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - differences
[07:24] <leeyaa> yeah ik
[07:24] <leeyaa> i guess it will be fun
[07:24] <leeyaa> anyway
[07:24] <A_Pickle> MySQL is trying to use root@localhost
[07:24] <leeyaa> A_Pickle: try #mysql
[07:24] <ikonia> A_Pickle: mysql does not use root@localhost it's a database
[07:25] <ikonia> A_Pickle: a client uses user@host, and the user/host part is what you provide
[07:25] <k1l> A_Pickle: use the database passwords you selected when starting the database
[07:25] <A_Pickle> Okay
[07:26] <A_Pickle> So I ran
[07:26] <A_Pickle> sudo /usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation
[07:26] <A_Pickle> It said
[07:26] <A_Pickle> NOTE: RUNNING ALL PARTS OF THIS SCRIPT IS RECOMMENDED FOR ALL MySQL
[07:26] <A_Pickle>       SERVERS IN PRODUCTION USE!  PLEASE READ EACH STEP CAREFULLY!
[07:26] <A_Pickle> In order to log into MySQL to secure it, we'll need the current
[07:26] <A_Pickle> password for the root user.  If you've just installed MySQL, and
[07:26] <A_Pickle> you haven't set the root password yet, the password will be blank,
[07:26] <A_Pickle> so you should just press enter here.
[07:27] <A_Pickle> So you guys are positive that this is MySQL referring to the MySQL user called "root," and not the system user called root?
[07:27] <ikonia> A_Pickle: it is the mysql root user
[07:27] <A_Pickle> Okay.
[07:27] <ikonia> A_Pickle: and there can be many root accounts on mysql
[07:28] <k1l> A_Pickle: you installed mysql with the ubuntu package from ubuntu?
[07:38] <A_Pickle> I'm... I'm not sure if I did.
[07:38] <A_Pickle> I installed mysql
[07:38] <A_Pickle> sudo apt-get install mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql
[07:38] <A_Pickle> With that command.
[07:39] <A_Pickle> I'm following a tutorial, for 12.04 LTS.  I figured it would be applicable, and that I could learn by getting my hands dirty.
[07:39] <A_Pickle> It never prompted me to set a password for the MySQL user "root" during install.
[07:40] <A_Pickle> Man, I need more monitors.
[07:44] <A_Pickle> So, "sudo" and "#mysql" do not work as mysql passwords.
[07:44] <A_Pickle> When using the "mysql -u -p" bit
[07:45] <hateball> The user is most likely root, and the install *should* have prompted you to create one
[07:45] <hateball> a password, that is
[07:45] <hateball> !sudo
[07:45] <hateball> Again, totally separate from mysql root/users
[07:46] <hateball> A_Pickle: If no password has been set, try "mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD"
[07:46] <hateball> replacing newpassword with something better, obviously
[07:46] <A_Pickle> I tried dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
[07:46] <A_Pickle> And that gave me an option to change the password.
[07:47] <Buby> HOLA
[07:47] <A_Pickle> Is dpkg-reconfigure sort of the command line equivalent of doing a reinstall, or a "change" from the Windows Add/Remove Programs list?
[07:48] <A_Pickle> YEAAAHHHH
[07:48] <A_Pickle> Success, my friends.
[07:48] <A_Pickle> I thank you for your assistance in moving an Ubuntu n00b a few steps forward.
[07:48] <A_Pickle> IRC is the best.
[07:50] <A_Pickle> So, onto the next step of my OwnCloud installation.
[07:50] <A_Pickle> If you were installing PHP, what would you do?
[07:50] <A_Pickle> What command would you use?
[07:51] <leeyaa> you need a web server that is capable of serving php
[07:51] <A_Pickle> Yeah
[07:51] <A_Pickle> Wait, what does that mean?
[07:51] <arlekin> hi there, shame on me i know but i found someting like &> in my old bash script and know im wondering what was it for ? i guess it is something like "redirect both stdout and stderr to.."
[07:51] <arlekin> *now im wondering
[07:52] <ikonia> A_Pickle: you appear to be running before walking
[07:52] <A_Pickle> Perhaps.
[07:53] <A_Pickle> I set up an OwnCloud server on a Windows machine in the past.
[07:53] <ikonia> right, you're not doing that now though
[07:53] <A_Pickle> Haha, right you are.
[07:53] <A_Pickle> I mean, I just... I know what I want to do on this thing, and I'm... excited to get it up and running.
[07:54] <ciber05> s
[07:54] <A_Pickle> Are there any good tutorials that you'd recommend I try before jumping into that?
[07:54] <leeyaa> http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/owncloud-ubuntu-nginx-setup-guide/
[07:54] <leeyaa> there you go
[07:54] <f3lix1> I'm trying to reboot an EC2 instance from ssh, but it never completes. I have to use the web interface to forcefully reboot it. This last attempt, I still have an ssh connection open to the instance, but it's not accepting new connections, so apparently, it does start the shutdown process, it just never completes. Anyone have any idea on how to debug this?
[07:55] <A_Pickle> Dang.
[07:55] <A_Pickle> Well, thank you leeyaa.
[07:55] <A_Pickle> I guess... part of me is content typing commands from tutorials on the web
[07:55] <ikonia> thats the last thing you should do
[07:55] <A_Pickle> ...but I kind of want to know, at least with some rudimentary understanding, what those commands are doing.
[07:56] <ikonia> unless you fully understand the commands
[07:56] <A_Pickle> I don't.
[07:56] <A_Pickle> And I realize I probably won't understand, comprehensively, what they do without...
[07:56] <A_Pickle> ...growing the beard, so to speak.
[07:56] <ikonia> errr no
[07:56] <ikonia> just read about what they do
[07:56] <ikonia> or read a basic introduction to ubuntu
[07:56] <A_Pickle> Nonetheless, I'm reasonably comfortable on the (admittedly, much simpler) Windows command line.
[07:56] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[07:57] <A_Pickle> I've checked that out.
[07:57] <A_Pickle> And, I do try to read before I come over here and present you kind people with my problems.
[07:57] <ikonia> that doesn't appear to be the case
[07:57] <A_Pickle> Oh.
[07:58] <Jianchuan> ddd
[07:59] <f3lix1> I'm also not seeing rc.local being run, think there's a correlation here
[08:00] <hateball> A_Pickle: read the manpage for the commands before using them
[08:00] <leeyaa> f3lix1: check your acpi drivers, i had similar problem with vmware vms
[08:00] <leeyaa> they were not shutting down completely
[08:01] <monsune> hello :) i'm having this totally crazy issue... on my box time is standing still... to be exact it goes from 12.00 CET to 12.01 CET and then it jumps back to 12.00 CET... ntpdate seems to help for just a minute or so and it is back to 12.00 CET again... how do i nail down this crap? and why would it happen at all?
[08:01] <f3lix1> this is on ec2, though. And these instances used to do so previously. They've received some updates, and also I'm doing my own init.d scripts, so I think either thing is the culprit. Just not sure how to debug it…
[08:01] <f3lix1> *do so: reboot
[08:01] <ikonia> monsune: failing hardware clock is a common cause
[08:01] <ikonia> monsune: run ntp
[08:02] <monsune> ikonia failing hw clock you say...
[08:02] <ikonia> possibly
[08:02] <ikonia> or just a hardware clock that's out of sync
[08:02] <monsune> it started happening out of the blue
[08:02] <monsune> it was all fine last night when i left it
[08:02] <ikonia> not sure how that changes anything I said
[08:03] <monsune> but why would it reset every minute?
[08:03] <ikonia> because it's out of sync and fighting with your system time
[08:03] <monsune> literally 60 seconds
[08:03] <ikonia> or because it's failing
[08:03] <ikonia> or beacuase you have some sort of automated job setting the clock
[08:03] <monsune> i checked crontab and there is nothing in there
[08:05] <f3lix1> Okay, figured it out. It's my init.d scripts that're blocking.
[08:07] <mido> ineed help there with kubuntu desktop
[08:08] <mido> guys ican't change my desktop to kubuntu desktop
[08:08] <mido> i setyp kde but logo only that changed
[08:09] <mido> ops trigger
[08:09] <mido> !ops trigger
[08:10] <mido> so! no one will help me there
[08:11] <Ben64> what are you trying to accomplish
[08:11] <ikonia> monsune: ?
[08:11] <ikonia> monsune: oops, sorry
[08:11] <ikonia> mido: ?
[08:11] <mido> i have setup kde desktop but only logo that changed to kubuntu and desktop still the same
[08:12] <Ben64> how did you setup kde desktop
[08:12] <mido> yes idid
[08:12] <mido> the prove that logo changed to kubuntu when restart
[08:12] <Ben64> mido: no... how did you do it
[08:13] <ikonia> mido: ok, so there is no need to call the channel operators for that issue
[08:13] <hateball> mido: You need to choose your session when you log in
[08:13] <mido> nothing to choose between
[08:14] <mido> ikonia : ihave setup kde but icannot change the desktop
[08:14] <Ben64> mido: Which command or method did you do in order to install the KDE desktop?
[08:14] <loostro> How to fix apparmor="DENIED" error? http://askubuntu.com/questions/490690/how-to-fix-apparmor-denied-for-telepathy-mission-control-5-under-ubuntu-14-04
[08:14] <mido> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[08:15] <Ben64> mido: that is not a package
[08:15] <mido> but you guys who gave me this order before
[08:16] <hateball> It's kubuntu-desktop, so
[08:16] <leeyaa> is setting mac address in interfaces config syntax changed in 14.04 LTS ?
[08:17] <mido> please ineed the true order of package
[08:17] <mido> after idid this order logo have changed to kubuntu but it never make me choose between kde or unity desktop
[08:18] <Ben64> mido: you choose it where you log in. there should be a gear or some other icon and you choose which desktop you want
[08:18] <mido> Ben64 : it never show
[08:18] <hdtune2k> hi
[08:18] <Ben64> mido: then install kubuntu-desktop
[08:19] <mido> that what idid before -_-
[08:19] <mido> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[08:19] <k1l> mido: you can choose on the login screen
[08:19] <jumanji> hi guys I can't understand why daemon won't start my shell script but when I run it in command line, it runs.
[08:19] <jumanji> I used the script from here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13718821/run-python-script-as-daemon-at-boot-time-ubuntu
[08:19] <jumanji> the daemon service will start, but status shows that it's not running.
[08:20] <Ben64> mido: it still isn't kde-desktop, it is kubuntu-desktop
[08:20] <mido> beleive me guys there no icon or anything to choose between
[08:20] <k1l> mido: btw, there is no package: kde-desktop. it should be kubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <mido> u guys make me made
[08:22] <mido> so you say kde not kubuntu then you say no package kde its kubuntu
[08:22] <hateball> ...
[08:22] <Ben64> mido: we've never said the package is kde-desktop, that was all you
[08:22] <k1l> mido: you are mixing kde desktop with the ubuntu package which is called: "kubuntu-desktop"
[08:22] <jumanji>         start-stop-daemon --background --name $DEAMON_NAME --start --user $DAEMONUSER --exec $DAEMON --verbose im running it like this
[08:22] <hateball> If the Kubuntu splash appears, somehow you've managed to install it...
[08:22] <giorgiodinapoli> hey gus i installed ubuntu 12.04 LTs with LVM. now i want to create a snapshot of my /root partition that i can later revert after my installation trials... how can i do this
[08:23] <streulma> hello does Ubuntu perform well on a Macbook Pro 13 inch latest? With only 4GB ram?
[08:23] <mido> ok now ineed kde package what is the true order to type ?
[08:23] <hateball> mido: If you can't change session using GUI you can edit ~/.dmrc to use Session=kde-plasma
[08:23] <llutz> mido: if you really tried to install kde-desktop, you would have got "E: Unable to locate package kde-desktop"
[08:23] <streulma> or should I need 8GB ?
[08:23] <Ben64> streulma: 4GB is fine
[08:23] <hateball> streulma: What do you intend to do, other than start the OS?
[08:23] <k1l> mido: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:24] <streulma> hateball, running legal Windows VM with legal Sibelius 5
[08:24] <monsune> assuming that my hw clock is running perfectly fine on host how do i find out what is causing system date to reset every minute to 12.00 CET?
[08:24] <jumanji> I can run start.sh fine but doing start-stop-daemon --background --name flaskserver --start --user root --exec /root/start.sh --verbose does not work. why?
[08:28] <yourmom> are you feeling better now ikonia?
[08:28] <jumanji> hello? can someone help me?
[08:31] <f3lix1> jumanji: depends on a lot of things, e.g. which environment variables are set for user root. how does it "not work"?
[08:31] <jumanji> the script is never launched
[08:31] <jumanji> by the daemon
[08:33] <f3lix1> haven't used —user myself, I usually do —chuid root:root
[08:33] <f3lix1> actually, I don't use it for root, as I've only used it with init.d scripts where it's already root, but you get the idea ;)
[08:33] <ki7mt> I dont what the script is supposed to to, but /root is an odd place to put a daemon to begin with.
[08:35] <ki7mt> s/to do/to to/
[08:35] <makara> hi. Any idea how I can get a tree listing of my network share?
[08:35] <makara> I can connect with smbclient. I would like to use `tree` program. It has some handy switches.
[08:36] <ki7mt> makara, have you tried it? I dont use Samba allot, but use tree allot, I dont recall any issues with nework drives and such.
[08:37] <jumanji> sudo start-stop-daemon --background --name flaskserver --start --chuid root:root --exec /root/worker/start.sh --verbose
[08:37] <jumanji> doesn't work
[08:38] <jumanji> sigh
[08:39] <jumanji> im doing this shit again...staying up late trying to fix one last bug
[08:39] <jumanji> as I won't have my peace until it is fixed
[08:39] <ki7mt> jumanji, I dont know did you set the exec bit on the file ? chmod +x  ?  start-stop-daemon  .. that seems odd, why not just start ?
[08:39] <jumanji> ki7mt: well the script realy does this, /usr/bin/python /root/worker/server.py
[08:40] <jumanji> chmod 755'd all the scripts
[08:41] <jumanji> this is driving me nuts
[08:41] <jumanji> these old soviet afghan war songs keep me going
[08:41] <ki7mt> jumanji, is this something you wrote or are you following some how-to somewhere?
[08:42] <ki7mt> and what is server.py ?
[08:42] <lolek> Hi guys
[08:42] <jumanji> ki7mt: server.py is just a flask server
[08:42] <ki7mt> hello
[08:42] <jumanji> ki7mt: i used the first answer from here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13718821/run-python-script-as-daemon-at-boot-time-ubuntu
[08:42] <jumanji> i had a daemon setup that starts when the server boots
[08:42] <lolek> I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and compiz is using over 20% of cpu which makes system unusable, is there known bug about this or, do I need to just  change some settings?
[08:42] <jumanji> it was working fine but sometime ago it stopped working
[08:45] <ki7mt> jumanji, well the how-to says the script should be in /etc/init.d  .. which I agree with, why are you adding it to /root/worker/.. .. ..
[08:46] <jumanji> the script is in there
[08:46] <jumanji> it tries to run the shell script at /root/worker
[08:46] <jumanji> it worked before when I didn't pu t the shell script at /etc/init.d
[08:46] <jumanji> but the daemon script is there
[08:47] <ki7mt> jumanji, start-stop-daemon is wrong, should like the how to says: sudo service myserver start
[08:48] <ki7mt> should be like .. .. .
[08:49] <jumanji> yes i did that and it doesn't run the script
[08:49] <jumanji> holy fuck i think im going to shoot myself
[08:49] <ki7mt> jumanji, no need for all the harsh language
[08:49] <jumanji> i bet its something super stupid i overlooked
[08:50] <ki7mt> jumanji, I'd start at the top, and take your time, do each step and check it, the how-too looks good to me.,
[08:50] <jumanji> okay i removed the --background and it says this
[08:50] <jumanji> start-stop-daemon: unable to start /root/worker/start.sh (Exec format error)
[08:51] <ki7mt> I do work with Python allot, but I've not used Flask, so I'm not up on how it's to be used really.
[08:51] <MasterOfDisaster> jumanji: got the shebang in it? exec flag?
[08:52] <ki7mt> jumanji, Yes, that is wrong, I said that, you want sudo start  .. .. . not start-stop-daemon that's is wrong
[08:52] <jumanji> MasterOfDisaster: good question
[08:52] <jumanji> !/bin/sh echo hi script='/root/worker/server.py' /usr/bin/python $script &
[08:53] <jumanji> are. you. kidding me
[08:53] <jumanji> I didn't have #!, I had ! only
[08:53] <MasterOfDisaster> jumanji: pastebin the complete script, please.
[08:53] <jumanji> omg I feel so stupid
[08:54] <ki7mt> jumanji, Yup, that's one issue
[08:55] <ki7mt> jumanji, just curiou, why /bin/sh and no /usr/bin/env bash ?
[08:55] <ki7mt> curious  .. .
[08:56] <YatharthROCK> While installing system-wide obviously, obviouly you have to be root for pip; but even when in a virtualenv? That doesn't seem right.
[08:57] <jumanji> MasterOfDisaster: http://pastiebin.com/53b3c9556650d
[08:58] <jumanji> start.sh !/bin/sh script='/root/worker/server.py' /usr/bin/python $script &
[08:58] <jumanji> it keeps removing the # from my start.sh
[08:58] <jumanji> ki7mt: i don't know
[08:58] <jumanji> ki7mt: my understanding is limited in this area
[08:59] <jumanji> when i run daemon, it removes the # from the first line of start.sh
[09:00] <jumanji> i have to sleep on this
[09:00] <jumanji> i can't figure itout
[09:06] <yellabs-r2> hi there , from the bash, is there a way to start totem in a specific dimension, like for example 600x800 ?
[09:06] <ki7mt> jumanji, just fyi, reading other Flasks  server installs, the one you posted is nothing like what I'm finding for Ubuntu, maybe I've not searched it properly or something.
[09:07] <jumanji> ki7mt: the problem is caused by start-stop-daemon removing the # from the script its trying to execute
[09:07] <jumanji> I don't know why it's doing this
[09:07] <jumanji> but this is preventing it from being able to run the script
[09:08] <ki7mt> jumanji, Ok, well at least you know the issue then.
[09:08] <marcules> hi
[09:08] <jumanji> ki7mt: yeah but this is even more puzzling and i can't find any answer
[09:10] <jackthepipper> Okay guys, please help me. How can I set vim as default text editor? It should open when I double click text files. I've already created a vim desktop link so that I can choose vim from the context menu. Unfortunately there isn't a "Set as default" option.
[09:10] <jumanji> start-stop-daemon removes the # from the shebang #!/usr/bin in the script it tries to run. how to prevent this?
[09:11] <ki7mt> jackthepipper, sudo update-alternatives –config editor  and select vim
[09:13] <userm> hello everyone
[09:13] <Andromeda> hi
[09:13] <userm> i have a question
[09:13] <suore> Any know ffmpeg?
[09:13] <jackthepipper> ki7mt, thx. But this way I can only set the default text editor within the terminal. It has no impact on the desktop.
[09:13] <bcvery> !ask | suore
[09:14] <bcvery> userm, ^^
[09:14] <yellabs-r2> hi there , from the bash, is there a way to start totem in a specific dimension, like for example 600x800 ?
[09:15] <ki7mt> jackthepipper, check in /usr/share/applications/defaults.list and maybe change it from Gedit to vim there then.
[09:15] <jackthepipper> ki7mt, is there no more userfriendly way?
[09:15] <userm> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.offensive-security.com/dists/pwnsauce/microverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not resolve 'archive.offensive-security.com'
[09:15] <suore> ffmpeg -i yt.mkv -vcodec libvpx-vp9 -acodec libvorbis -strict experimental output.webm   i got :  Could not write header for output file #0 (incorrect codec parameters ?): Invalid argument,    Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (h264 -> libvpx-vp9)
[09:15] <suore> what is bad?
[09:16] <svetlana> that entire line
[09:16] <JoeDredd> Hi. I’ve setup my first 14.04 server (usually 12.04) LAMP stack. Very basic WP site hosted on Digital Ocean. My problem is that the machine seems to either lock up or possibly hibernate at random times. Everything stops. No SSH/web/MySQL or even PING. It's as if the machine is turned off. Occasionally it'll start working after 30/40 mins by itself, a couple of times I got it to respond by waking up a prompt on the virtual console (after 6 hours down
[09:16] <JoeDredd> last night), a couple of other times I had to hard reset. Everytime I look through /var/logs and see nothing suspect.
[09:16] <JoeDredd> It's monitored by New Relic and that shows resources are well inline with availability. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
[09:16] <ki7mt> yellabs-r2, man totem ahs rezise options like 50% 100% and 200% but I didn't see anything for specific X,Y dimensions.
[09:16] <svetlana> it is freaking unreadable
[09:16] <userm> bcvery: ^^
[09:16] <ki7mt> yellabs-r2, You may have to run it, the resize it manually.
[09:16] <bazhang> try #ffmpeg suore
[09:17] <Andromeda> i kind've figured this would be the place to ask this; can anyone tell me anything about a possible Windows Phone conversion to ubuntu or any other OS for that matter? i ask because i know about the ubuntu mobile OS but last I checked it was only in beta and only had support for 2 or 3 different phones.
[09:17] <somsip> !touch | Andromeda (short answer, there isn't one)
[09:18] <Andromeda> ok ty
[09:18] <ki7mt> jackthepipper, well you can always right click the file, select properties, and use open with, but Im not sure where else that data is stored for editors.
[09:19] <ki7mt> jackthepipper, couls also look in: ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list  .. then make sure it's: [Default Applications] text/plain=gvim.desktop
[09:23] <jackthepipper> Got it! A guy in the german channel had the answer: right click on text file, switch to tab on the right side - there you go.
[09:23] <jackthepipper> ki7mt, see above.
[09:29] <Preddy> clear
[09:29] <Preddy> ls
[09:32] <pds_pxe> qq: researchin kickstarting, postscripting is this pure commands or is this bash scripting
[09:36] <RuNnNy> I got some shell scripts that I want to run at boot, What's the best way to do this in Ubuntu?
[09:36] <MrChrisDruif> RuNnNy; Startup Applications?
[09:36] <RuNnNy> MrChrisDruif: It's a server
[09:36] <sveta> or cron
[09:37] <MrChrisDruif> Or that.
[09:37] <llutz> RuNnNy: /etc/rc.local
[09:38] <sveta> ew, that is just so hard to maintain
[09:38] <RuNnNy> llutz: Thanks
[09:39] <ki7mt> rc.local is a pain, upstart much easier to support
[09:40] <ki7mt> and I though, rc.local only runs when you log in to an account, not at boot right?
[09:40] <JoeDredd> Any idea why dmesg is full of : Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key: 69b0d0a79b85d90621706e8d06604d730b359fc0' err -11
[09:40] <llutz> ki7mt: wrong, it runs at the end of bootprocess
[09:40] <sveta> no, both?
[09:41] <llutz> "This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel."
[09:42] <llutz> since *buntu uses upstart (only rl2) its just run at end of bootproc
[09:42] <sveta> what is executed before it then?
[09:42]  * sveta thought mysql was in rc.local, but it starts before I log in
[09:42] <llutz> sveta: because boot ends before you log in
[09:42] <ki7mt> yeah. just need to amke sure you edit the /etc/init.d/rc.local though
[09:43] <ki7mt> .. make ..
[09:43] <ki7mt> I would still go with an upstart job
[09:44] <sveta> too conusing -- /etc/init.d/rc.local and I think there also is /etc/rc.*
[09:44] <sveta> confusing, even
[09:44] <llutz> ki7mt: your choice, i didn't say rc.local is the only/best way
[09:44] <IceBot3000> I'd use systemd to configure it
[09:45] <ki7mt> Agreed, not saying rc.local is bad or anything, other that /etc/rc.local probably wont run at boot, but the /etc/init.d/rc.local should I would think.
[09:45] <arcsky> I have just one eth0 inteface (WAN) atm on my linux machine. but i want a logical LAN address. can i create any or so?
[09:45] <llutz> sveta: /etc/init.d/rc.local is the just sysV-init script running /etc/rc.local (handled by upstart now)
[09:45] <llutz> ki7mt: ^^
[09:46] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, It's gogint o eb a whole before systemd is robust enough to match upstart on Ubuntu. Other distros may be ok at this point.
[09:46] <lolek> hello, any idea why compiz is taking over 50% cpu on ubuntu 14.04 ? (intel ironlake cpu Core i7)
[09:46] <ki7mt> wow it's going to be a while .. .. there that's better
[09:46] <lolek> of course, laptop is unusable because of that :(
[09:47] <IceBot3000> ki7mt: True, I guess there may be issues in the migration
[09:47] <ki7mt> llutz, so whay you saying /etc/init.d/ec.local is actually /etc/rc.local ?
[09:47] <nathanbz> Hi, is there a way to test Automatic updates sending an email without any updates ?
[09:48] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, Well, seeing how the migration has yet to be formally released, yeah, I'd say there are a few issues to iron out :)
[09:48] <llutz> ki7mt: i didn't
[09:48] <ki7mt> llutz, Ok, well I dont really need to understand it much futher, as I dont use.
[09:50] <makara> who wants to help me split a page of a page into two pages using command line tools / scripts only!?
[09:50] <IceBot3000> ki7mt: I thought Mark finally swallowed his pride and announced systemd migration? Just hope he can do the same with wayland over mir
[09:50] <pds_pxe> qq: researchin kickstarting, postscripting is this pure commands or is this bash scripting
[09:51] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, I read a blog post from him on it, sayign systmd and Python3 were taking center stage, so think the reached common ground with Debian, but it's not ready for prime time I dont believe.
[09:52] <ki7mt> makara, use Awk or Perl, it's pretty easy then.
[09:55] <ki7mt> makara, Here's a quick one, breaks at line 100 and inserting [09:55] <ki7mt> sri break every 100 lines, and inserts '[09:56] <ubilli8> please can anyone help me with this http://laravel.io/bin/n5oaq
[09:57] <nathanbz> does anyone know what a automatic upgrade email looks like
[09:58] <nathanbz> looking at my mail log says an email has been sent, but i can't find it
[09:58] <ki7mt> ubilli8, First, you dont own the folder, the web-sver does, like: chgrp -R www-data /var/www chmod -R g+rwX /var/www
[09:59] <ki7mt> ubilli8, The easiest way is to link it, not copy: sudo ln -s ~/my-folder /var/www/myfolder
[09:59] <IceBot3000> ubilli8: Learn about Unix file permissions, and chgrp/chmod/chown
[10:00] <ki7mt> ubilli8, The point your browsaer toL http://ip-address/myfolder/
[10:00] <IceBot3000> ki7mt: You need to configure Apache/whatever to allow links then, by default they're not followed
[10:01] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, news to me, when did that change ? that's how my 14.04 Ubuntu mirror is setup
[10:02] <IceBot3000> ki7mt: Maybe Ubuntu's default config is more permissive, every other Linux Distribution I've used doesn't allow symlinks until you alter the Apache config
[10:03] <ubilli8> ki7mt how do i do that...???
[10:04] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, Well, I didn't do anything actually, installaed LAMP, linked the folder, run my deb-mirror.sh script. Come to think of it, have a load of docs that I work on linked as well.
[10:04] <ubilli8> @ki7mt  please i should put at the /var/www
[10:05] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, This is *not* a virtual host conf though, that may be different.
[10:06] <nathanbz> anyone can help with unattended-upgrades ?
[10:06] <iceburnt> hi, could you tell me an application that used for show lyric except osd-lyric?
[10:08] <makara> ki7mt: i meant a pdf
[10:08] <makara> ki7mt: http://www.bloomberg.com/enterprise/content/uploads/sites/2/2013/09/EDM_Whitepaper.pdf
[10:08] <llutz_> !info pdfsam  | makara
[10:09] <makara> pdfsam splits pages from the pdf as a file. It doesn't handle splitting the actual page
[10:09] <ki7mt> makara, yeah, what llutz_ said ^^
[10:09] <llutz_> makara: then you need like dftotext to process the pdf-page
[10:09] <makara> i've made some progress sofar
[10:09] <llutz_> pdftotext*
[10:10] <iceburnt> hi, could you tell me an application that used for show lyric except osd-lyric?
[10:10] <ki7mt> makara, use it to crate a file, then split the pile, like pipe it to other tools
[10:10] <makara> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12482/split-pages-in-pdf/52371#52371
[10:10] <ki7mt> .. sri split the file not pile :-)
[10:11] <nathanbz> is sendmail a mailx ?
[10:11] <makara> changed the script to use mm not pt. Then I removed the first and last pages with pdftk. Then I ran `./split.sh EDM.pdf 180 1`
[10:12] <makara> but why 180? The file is 432x279mm. It should be 216 not 180?
[10:12] <ki7mt> nathanbz, Bit more than I normally use, but you may find this usefull: http://superuser.com/questions/137461/does-mailx-send-mail-using-an-smtp-relay-or-does-it-directly-connect-to-the-targ
[10:13] <makara> and why can't it just detect the size and automatically split it half way down
[10:13] <iceburnt> hi, could you tell me an application that used for show lyric except osd-lyric?
[10:14] <santhosh> howto downgradethe kernel version
[10:14] <makara> iceburnt: ther are some add-ons to rhythm-box that do a great job at that
[10:15] <ki7mt> santhosh, Yes, use the Synaptic Package manager, search linux-image, and install the one you want, then at boot, select that kernel.
[10:16] <nathanbz> sudo unattended-upgrade -d --dry-run <- doesn't seem to send emails :(
[10:16] <iceburnt> could you tell me what are that makara?
[10:18] <ubilli8> @ ki7mt   i have done what you said but this is the error i am getting http://laravel.io/bin/ln84K
[10:19] <ki7mt> makara, Not being funny, but, pdf's are not made to be manipulated, that's the intended purpose, if it was a text file, then things are much easier, but pdf's are generated to prevent allot of that type of activity and make them portable.
[10:21] <ki7mt> ubilli8, what command did you use and what command cause the permission error?
[10:22] <ki7mt> ubilli8, And is this a Ubuntu server?
[10:28] <ubilli8> @ki7mt  i used this comand
[10:29] <nathanbz> unattended-upgrade says it uses mailx, does anyone know how I can test it sending an email ?
[10:29] <ubilli8> http://laravel.io/bin/21oo3
[10:29] <ubilli8> @ki7mt
[10:30] <llutz_> nathanbz: did you install mailx? does mailx itself work ( echo test|mailx -s testmail foo@bar.org)?
[10:32] <ki7mt> nathanbz, You mat need to configuer your email address etc in etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades .. More info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[10:34] <ki7mt> ubilli8, I dont know what all you done but this is wrong ~/var/www/laravel4  ..
[10:36] <Abhijit> which library installs tputs/
[10:36] <Abhijit> in ubuntu.
[10:36] <loostro> How to fix apparmor="DENIED" error? http://askubuntu.com/questions/490690/how-to-fix-apparmor-denied-for-telepathy-mission-control-5-under-ubuntu-14-04
[10:36] <RuNnNy> Fuck, I get this at boot "Stopping Read Required Files In Advanced"
[10:37] <bazhang> no cursing please RuNnNy
[10:37] <RuNnNy> It's my server :/
[10:37] <IceBot3000> loostro: apparmor is barely maintained, I suggest switching to selinux
[10:37] <ki7mt> ubilli8, It should be something like:  sudo ln -s /var/www/laravel4 ~/laravel4
[10:37] <Abhijit> yeah. becaues its backdoored by nsa.
[10:37] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-server perhaps RuNnNy
[10:38] <loostro> IceBot3000, I did not install apparmor myself, it was either shipped with Ubuntu 14.04 or installed as a dependency
[10:38] <bazhang> Abhijit, thats not right. keep it on topic here
[10:38] <loostro> IceBot3000, I don't even know what apparmor does
[10:38] <kostkon> !apparmor
[10:38] <RuNnNy> join #ubuntu-server
[10:38] <bazhang> try /join
[10:39] <loostro> it sais there it's installed by default since Ubuntu 8.04 ...
[10:41] <loostro> IceBot3000, is there any reference about switching to selinux? Are there any caveats I should know about before doing this? I mean, I guess it's there by default for a reason.. I wouldn't like to break something
[10:41] <IceBot3000> loostro: It would be a significant undertaking, but worth it if security is a high-priority
[10:42] <IceBot3000> apparmor is fairly primitive in the security protection it provides compared to selinux
[10:45] <ki7mt> Selinux is hardcore security, most folks dont need that level of security, in fact that average user probably would not know how to leverage the capability anyway.
[10:47] <IceBot3000> I disagree, everyone needs a secure system
[10:47] <IceBot3000> It's provided by default on Fedora Linux for example
[10:47] <ki7mt> Ok, do you think the average user can write just "one rule" that works ?
[10:48] <IceBot3000> No, but the software developers should write the rules initially, not the user
[10:50] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, Exactly, and if a user pops in here asking what is Apparmor or Selinux, odds are, they are not not going to be able to to write the required rules to leverage Selinux kernel enhancements.
[10:51] <hateball> sounds pretty !ot
[10:51] <IceBot3000> That just implies they're lazy, not uncapable
[10:51] <ki7mt> hateball, Agree, it's way OT, sri.
[10:52] <IceBot3000> hateball: !ot?
[10:52] <ki7mt> Off Topic
[10:52] <hateball> !ot
[10:52] <svetlana> IceBot3000++ :)
[10:52] <svetlana> that is some nice judgment :)
[10:55] <ubilli8> am back ...
[10:57] <DJJeff> GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID was not found when attempting to remove it
[10:57] <DJJeff> this crap is filling up my terminals
[10:57] <DJJeff> please for the love of jesus christ make it stop
[10:58] <DJJeff> this bug is more than 4 years old
[10:58] <DJJeff> and reported lots
[10:58] <ki7mt> DJJeff, Need a bit more info, liek what are you doing in the termainl, maybe a patebin of the activity would be helpful
[10:58] <DJJeff> this bug is not application related because I can test it with many apps
[10:59] <DJJeff> bless, gparted, wireshark.... they all spew this error in the terminal
[11:00] <ki7mt> DJJeff, You mean this error: Gtk-WARNING **: GtkScrolledWindow 0x1ace880 is mapped but visible child GtkScrollbar 0x1bb6b60 is not mapped
[11:00] <DJJeff> no
[11:00] <DJJeff> that error is not related
[11:00] <ki7mt> Ok
[11:00] <monotoko> I need a chinese language pack
[11:00] <monotoko> >.>
[11:00] <monotoko> even Windows comes with one
[11:01] <ki7mt> DJJeff, do you have the bug number ?
[11:02] <DJJeff> would an strace help find the cause of this bug?
[11:02] <monotoko> do I want these? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=language-pack-zh
[11:02] <ki7mt> DJJeff, I dont know, you said it was 4yrs old, I thought you may know of the bug off hand.
[11:03] <DJJeff> a google search shows this bug is in more than one application
[11:03] <hateball> monotoko: Is it for the DE, or a specific application?
[11:03] <DJJeff> so its not a bug thats just one application but is many
[11:03] <SomeAngel> hello is this an ubuntu help channel?
[11:04] <ki7mt> DJJeff, well shouting at the bugs in Launchpad may get a better response then here, as very few here (there are dev here though) actually fix bugs.
[11:04] <bcvery> SomeAngel, yes
[11:04] <hateball> monotoko: language-pack-zh-hans-base is most likely what you want
[11:05] <SomeAngel> i am having trouble getting the onscreen keyboard to come up when i am using my touch screen its ubuntu 14
[11:05] <IceBot3000> Bugs in Launchpad are typically ignored too once a Distribution is released. There are just too many
[11:06] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, what would you suggest then ?
[11:06] <IceBot3000> ki7mt: Fix the problem yourself, or use a distribution with commercial support
[11:07] <DJJeff> IceBot3000, it was me that was having the issue
[11:07] <DJJeff> http://bpaste.net/show/428087/
[11:08] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, so become a developer, and fix the bugs, but dont bother confirming them on Launchad?
[11:08] <DJJeff> a fix would be to not launch apps via CLI I guess
[11:08] <DJJeff> *sigh*
[11:09] <IceBot3000> ki7mt: Fix the bugs, and then provide a patch once completed. Ubuntu isn't a consumer grade OS, people should expect to get their hands dirty
[11:09] <hateball> Why do you not take this to OT?
[11:10] <IceBot3000> hateball: Please stop suggesting support issues are sent to OT. Thanks.
[11:11] <ki7mt> IceBot3000, I am developer, and fix and patch lots of packages. But I dont the root casue of DJJeff issue or i would ahve suggested somethign already.
[11:12] <hateball> IceBot3000: Rants about Launchpad or "consumer grade OS" are hardly helpful
[11:12] <IceBot3000> hateball: Please take this to OT. Thanks.
[11:13] <svetlana> it is such a static conversation i am watching here :-(
[11:16] <loostro> IceBot3000, hateball I'm not lazy, and the fact that I asked what is Apparmor/Selinux does not mean I'm incapable of learning them and writing custom working rules for them.
[11:17] <nick07> Im trying to add my mative 1280x1024 setting to the Nvidia xserver, but I dont know how,anyone?
[11:17] <hateball> nick07: Are you using nouveau driver or nvidia binary?
[11:18] <nick07> how can i see?
[11:18] <Paddy_NI> Upon switching my computer on today I am greeted with a horrible theme (windows 2000 era) and jagged fonts.  Menu bars are now back below the window title bar too
[11:18] <loostro> It's just, I'm learning linux, this is my second year useing it. I'm proud that after my last total-system-crash I was able to restore my system purely from console.
[11:19] <Paddy_NI> loostro, that is always a great sense of achievement :-)
[11:19] <nick07> nvidia 304, yes binairy driver
[11:19] <loostro> (it did not start becouse i had /var/log on root (/) partition and some php circular reference filled up my disc :P)
[11:19] <nick07> I just enabled the 304 driver and rebooted
[11:20] <hateball> nick07: Then you should have nvidia-settings installed, so launch that
[11:20] <loostro> and I'm even more proud after that I replaced 12.04 with 14.04 this time moveing /var to a seperate partition (as well as home and some others) :P
[11:20] <nick07> yes, but every weird resolution is in the list, except, ofcourse, my native 1280x1024
[11:21] <loostro> it's just.. I've never before had problems of Apparmor, I wasnt even aware of it's existance, or the whole apparmor vs selinux discussion
[11:22] <loostro> so, to summarize, you can't expect every fresh user go reading and studiying deeply the system architecture and libraries before actually running the system
[11:22] <loostro> most of us "learn as we go"
[11:22] <ki7mt> loostro, most folks aren't aware of it (apparmor), as it normal works in the background doing it's thing. Only time it comes up and people are made aware, is when it fails for some reason.
[11:22] <nick07> so any idea how to get the 1280x1024 in the nvidia setting?
[11:23] <loostro> but thanks for pointing that out, I'll read about it, and consider switching to selinux :)
[11:23] <hateball> nick07: It should be possible to force manual settings in there... but I'm not near a machine with nvidia drivers right now so I can't check where
[11:23] <histo> nick07: which drivers are you using?
[11:23] <nick07> nvidia 304
[11:24] <histo> nick07: does xrandr show 1280x1024 as an option?
[11:24] <nick07> before withou the nvidia driver I used xrandr to adjust my resolution to 1280x1024, with no problem
[11:25] <RuNnNy> nick07: I don't think xrandr cares, just do "xrandr <monitor> 1280x1024"
[11:25] <nick07> no, xrandr doesnt work anymore
[11:25] <histo> RuNnNy: it cares if the modeline isn't defined
[11:25] <v__> so many
[11:25] <histo> nick07: What do you mean it doesn't work?
[11:25] <Abhijit> 16:38 <DJJeff> a fix would be to not launch apps via CLI I guess
[11:25] <Abhijit> sorry. emacs noob error.
[11:26] <RuNnNy> histo: lol, misunderstood
[11:26] <ki7mt> nick07, Im on the 331 driver, with 3x9800GT's (older cards), using 1280x1024 .. just checked it, no issues to speak o. I can't recall when I last used the 304 driver.
[11:26] <nick07> I just installed the nvidia driver, I needed the driver so some software needs it. Just 10 minutes ago xrandr method worked, after the nvidia driver, it doesnt
[11:27] <histo> nick07: Does 'xrandr'  show 1280xwhatever as a resolution availible?
[11:27] <nick07> no it is not showing up in the xrandr list now
[11:28] <pds_pxe> qq: researchin kickstarting, postscripting is this pure commands or is this bash scripting
[11:28] <histo> nick07: you'd probably have to add a new modeline
[11:29] <histo> !modeline | nick07
[11:29] <hateball> histo, nick07: iirc you can do that from within nvidia-settings
[11:29] <hateball> I just don't have access to such a machine currently to confirm
[11:30] <nick07> ok, but I have a .sh file with the correct modelines, and that doesnt work
[11:31] <histo> nick07: follow the instructions from ubottu for calculating the modeline, then you can xrandr --newmode "1280x1024" ........
[11:32] <histo> nick07: add it to xrandr and switch to it then.
[11:33] <nick07> I did that already, before the driver, see my rules : xrandr --newmode "myMode"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync xrandr --addmode VGA-1 myMode xrandr --output VGA-1 --mode myMode
[11:33] <nick07> with the nvidia driver, this doesnt work
[11:34] <histo> nick07: pastebin the output of the script that is run
[11:37] <nick07> it is saying:Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[11:37] <nick07> A different name is solving the issue for 1 sec
[11:38] <histo> What?
[11:39] <nick07> if I give it another name then "1280x1024_60.00" like "myResolution" it gives no error,but after reboot "myResolution"is refused with the same error
[11:40] <jules_> Does anybody know how to listen to voice messages on Skype for LInux? I can send them ok but cant listen to the ones sent to me
[11:41] <histo> nick07: pastebin the output of xrandr
[11:41] <Quintic> Hello, i have a question. I want to create a user that cannot change anything outside his home dir, but can still use shell and so on. How do i do that? (google was no help)
[11:42] <IceBot3000> Quintic: Setup a jail
[11:42] <nick07> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7736362/
[11:42] <Quintic> how do i setup a jail?
[11:42] <hateball> Quintic: A regular user can by default only change things in his homedirectory tho
[11:42] <hateball> or hers, as it may be
[11:43] <nick07> it is all about the VGA-0
[11:43] <ki7mt> Quintic, Ok, what have you tried that is *not* doing what you think it should?
[11:43] <jules_> Can anyone help me please?
[11:43] <Quintic> So the user can still login with SSH but not touch anything in system or read files that are outside his folder?
[11:44] <hateball> Quintic: They can read, by default
[11:44] <hateball> So if you need more control, use a jail as suggested
[11:44] <ki7mt> Quintic, That's different, looking at folders, and editing files are two differetn things, to prevent that, you put them in a chroot, or jail-shell
[11:45] <Quintic> ki7mt, so how do i setup such a jail?
[11:47] <ki7mt> Quintic, There's many ways, here's one from my bookmarks: http://www.googlehemsida.se/c/Ubuntu_-_Jail_user_to_folder
[11:47] <Quintic> oh, gdammit i could have used google. Sorry
[11:48] <Quintic> thanks though
[11:48] <ki7mt> Quintic, You should probably sped some time reading up on chroot and jail-shells befor implemeting any of the methods foudn online.
[11:48] <ki7mt> .. spend some time ..
[11:48] <histo> nick07: checking now, sorry was distracted
[11:48] <nick07> np
[11:48] <Quintic> alright, thanks for the help ki7mt :)
[11:50] <histo> nick07: xrandr --addmode VGA-0 myMode && xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode myMode
[11:50] <ki7mt> Quintic, Here's another one, bit more clear: http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/howtos_chroot_shell.html
[11:50] <Quintic> yeah, just found that on google was already reading it. Seems good :)
[11:51] <nick07> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[11:52] <histo> nick07: it looks like the modes are added under DVI-D-0 instead of VGA-0
[11:52] <nick07> ah ok
[11:53] <histo> but I don't think you add htem to a device
[11:53] <histo> You typically define the mode then choose it.
[11:53] <nick07> I think i (we :D) need to solve it later, I need to go to work :(
[11:53] <histo> k
[11:53] <nick07> thanks,bye
[11:53] <histo> !xrandr | nick07 bookmark this
[11:53] <nick07> ok
[11:55] <pds_pxe> !kickstart | pds_pxe
[11:57] <santhosh> how to install kernel 3.5 in ubuntu
[11:57] <ciastek> Ubuntu 14.04 cloud images for Vagrant - How to disable IPv6? I've tried with sysctl, but it doesn't work: https://gist.github.com/ciastek/b9d64d31bf473b2aaf77
[11:58] <histo> santhosh: Are you still on an unsupported version of ubuntu?
[11:58] <santhosh> disable ipv6
[11:58] <santhosh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/309461/how-to-disable-ipv6-permanently
[11:59] <santhosh> iam using ubuntu 12.04
[11:59] <santhosh> kernel 3.5 is not support fot ubuntu 12.04
[12:00] <histo> !info linux-image-generic precise
[12:00] <histo> santhosh: Why do you want kernel 3.5?
[12:00] <santhosh> my wine application only support on kernel 3.5
[12:01] <ciastek> santhosh: i've disabled ipv6, but system still tires to use it - https://gist.github.com/ciastek/b9d64d31bf473b2aaf77
[12:01] <histo> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[12:01] <histo> santhosh: you could upgrade to 14.04
 did u restart the system
[12:02] <ciastek> santhosh: yes, i've edited /etc/sysctl.conf and restarted the system
 in ubuntu 14.04 kernel version is also different comapre to 10.04
[12:03] <histo> santhosh: yes it's 3.13
[12:04] <santhosh> my ltsp server running on kernel 3.5 if anysytem problem all applications close
[12:04] <histo> santhosh: what application are you running in wine?
[12:04] <ciastek> santhosh: thx
[12:05] <santhosh> my company application like stedmans
[12:05] <histo> santhosh: is it a private application or does it have a name?
[12:05] <santhosh> it is private application
[12:06] <histo> santhosh: how do you know it only works with kernel 3.5?
[12:07] <santhosh> i have ltsp dhcp server kernel 3.5 all wine applications working perfect but i bulidanotherdhcp with kernel 3.8 butit is getting problem
[12:07] <histo> santhosh: what sort of problem?
[12:08] <histo> santhosh: and have you tried on trusty 14.04?
[12:08] <santhosh> it is getting struct when open an application
[12:08] <santhosh> 14.04 it is having many bugs
[12:08] <santhosh> mainly domain login issuses
[12:10] <histo> santhosh: domain login issues within your app?  or within samba?
[12:11] <santhosh> install domain login pakgslikelikewise-open itisnot installing
[12:12] <histo> santhosh: what error are you getting?
[12:12] <histo> !details | santhosh
[12:14] <santhosh> iam instakllingubuntu 12.04 in that kernel version is 3.11  it is niot workingmuy local application  but they working on kernel 3.5
[12:15] <histo> santhosh: look for a ppa for with that kernel or build it from source
[12:17] <santhosh> yes iam trying iam not sure it is working or not
[12:18] <histo> !kernel | santhosh
[12:19] <f3lix1> When sudo su into a root shell, neither .profile, nor .pam_environment seem to be used, why is that?
[12:19] <hateball> f3lix1: Because you're not supposed to sudo su
[12:19] <hateball> f3lix1: if you *must* have a root shell, use "sudo -i"
[12:20] <f3lix1> That does it! Thank you :) Why does .bashrc get read on sudo su, though? -H or not -H
[12:20] <santhosh> iam direcrly install .debfile it isworking or not i don't know
[12:21] <Ben64> santhosh: ...what?
[12:21] <eeee> Ben64: he wants to install a .deb package manually
[12:21] <santhosh> iam  download.deb file for kernel directly install it is workijng or not
[12:21] <Mathisen> dpkg -i ?
[12:22] <histo> santhosh: What is your native language?
[12:22] <Ben64> santhosh: can you take a little bit more time typing and fully explain what you want to accomplish?
[12:22] <santhosh> telugu
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !telegu
[12:22] <santhosh>  <cfhowlett>not telegu it is telugu
[12:23] <cfhowlett> !telugu
[12:23] <hateball> Probably more like !in, but I'm not sure how similar it is
[12:24] <cfhowlett> hateball multiple indian dialects and languages I think
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !india
[12:24] <hateball> cfhowlett: Yes, hence uncertainty :)
[12:25] <santhosh> yes
[12:25] <santhosh> we are chating in india
[12:26] <histo> issue explain he must (yoda voice)
[12:28] <Lope> I'm trying to set a custom TTL on a ping, but it doesn't work. ping -t 100 foo.com
[12:29] <histo> Lope: can you explain "doesn't work"?
[12:29] <Lope> histo: it doesn't set the ttl
[12:31] <cyford> Lope,   i think it sets the max ttl..  if the ping ttl is lower  that would be displayed
[12:31] <histo> Lope: yeah ^^^
[12:32] <Lope> how can the ttl be lower, if I set it to 100, then surely it will be 100?
[12:32] <Lope> Time to Live is not "Response time" surely?
[12:32] <eeee> if it's lower than 100 that will be displayed
[12:32] <cyford> ttl = time to live...
[12:33] <eeee> e@e:~$ ping -t 1 google.com
[12:33] <eeee> PING google.com (173.194.35.5) 56(84) bytes of data.
[12:33] <eeee> From 172.20.10.1 icmp_seq=1 Time to live exceeded
 do u have download permission are is there any proxies
[12:34] <santhosh> or ipconflict
[12:34] <cyford> kind of like hops..  you set a max hop it and ping will die if it is reach...  but it will display exact hops if it is lower Lope
[12:35] <eeee> santhosh: no it's ok im just showing something
[12:35] <Lope> Howcome when I set the TTL for the ping to >255 it says out of range? when it's possible to have a ping higher than 255?
[12:35] <cyford> because the actuall ttl was lower
[12:36] <santhosh> for what it is an error
[12:36] <cyford> and you told ping to display if greater than 255
[12:37] <cyford> ttl depends on the path tcp takes,  not what you set...
[12:37] <Lope> that makes no sense. I've done ping -t 255 foo.com and it's showing all of them with ttl 58
 can u explain briefly i cant;t understand
[12:38] <Lope> cyford: it's displaying all the responses with ttl 58, and none greater than 255 as you've said.
[12:39] <eeee> Lope: man ping
[12:39] <eeee> there's a section on TTL
[12:40] <cyford>  ping -t 255 foo.com  - tells ping to max ttl at 255...       in most cases unless your target is using satelite transmisstion that ttl will never be reached
[12:40] <cyford> but ping is set for max 255  which means all lower ttl is still relivent
[12:40] <eeee> try antarctica.com
[12:40] <cyford> >255  = lower not relevant
[12:41] <bjrohan> In an upstart script, how do I return permission back to root after an unprivileged user?
[12:46] <priuon> hi there. is it possible to globally change default file permission modes for new files? it seems to be 664 in general.
[12:48] <bjrohan> After posting my last question, I think I need to reword it. I start a job in upstart that runs a minecraft server, which, is constantly generating a log. The minecraft server itself will generate the same log (once the initial line is read to start it). What would be the best way to keep this/var/log/upstart log from getting HUGE and remaining there (as it appends at each startup)
[12:48] <bjrohan> keeping in mind that erasing it at a script start would still allow it to get HUGE if I don't shut the computer off for, weeks or months
[12:49] <peyam> Hi guys
[12:49] <peyam> how do I fix this error: Cause:
[12:49] <peyam> Supplied javaHome is not a valid folder. You supplied: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64
[12:50] <Munster> \o
[12:50] <Lope> if I ping my ISP with an interval of 0.2 seconds (as a temporary test) would they get upset and ban me or something?
[12:50] <Pici> priuon: if you want to change it globally, you'd need to modify the umask parameter in /etc/login.defs  also take a look at the pam_umask manpage.
[12:51] <leeyaa> hello
[12:51] <leeyaa> now that rpcbind has replaced portmap how to enable nfs shares in hosts.allow if my policy is using default hosts.deny for all ? before i was doing portmap lockd statd mountd: 192.168.10.0/24 do i just replace portmap with rpcbind ?
[12:52] <priuon> Pici: thanks,.
[13:05] <jemacom> Hello
[13:06] <AnAnt> Hello, I have a question about power settings: what does "inactive" mean ? does it mean that no processes are running ? or does it mean that that there is no input from user ?
[13:10] <Ardeshir81> ./list
[13:11] <Glorfindel> how do I unlock partitions in gparted?
[13:11] <k1l> Glorfindel: dont fiddle with your partitions when the system you run is running on them. start a live disk/stick for that
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Glorfindel THIS^^^^
[13:12] <murlidhar> how to change the window border theme ?
[13:12] <Glorfindel> alright, thanks
[13:12] <murlidhar> i tried changing from unity-tweak-tool but the whole gtk theme is changing along with the window theme :|
[13:15] <Chaos_Zero> gedit freezes on saving a file (saving the first time / save as, already existing files are ok). Nothing logged in the console window at all
[13:15] <Chaos_Zero> can I turn on verbose mode?
[13:15] <geektech713> i cant get wine to download
[13:16] <geektech713> or play or linux either
[13:16] <murlidhar> eh
[13:16] <geektech713> trying to be partner with Ubuntu
[13:16] <geektech713> they denied me
[13:16] <geektech713> i have 2 I.T firms
[13:16] <cfhowlett> geektech713 this is not the place for that discussion.
[13:16] <geektech713> k
[13:17] <geektech713> well i had issues with wine and play on linux lol
[13:17] <geektech713> i have windows 7 pro/ubuntu on my workstation
[13:17] <murlidhar> how to change the window border theme ?
[13:17] <murlidhar> i tried changing from unity-tweak-tool but the whole gtk theme is changing along with the window theme :|
[13:19] <bcvery> !details | geektech713, what do you mean by 'issues'
[13:22] <Aisjfias> I'm on ubuntu 14.04 with an amd graphics card (HD 6950) using the open source drivers, and I'm experiencing horrible tearing. How can i fix this?
[13:24] <lnxslck> Aisjfias, install 3d driver
[13:24] <Aisjfias> lnxslck: What do you mean? I'm using the default open source drivers
[13:25] <lnxslck> Aisjfias, i mean there are other drivers out there like the proprietary ones
[13:26] <murlidhar> how to change the window border theme ?
[13:26] <murlidhar> i tried changing from unity-tweak-tool but the whole gtk theme is changing along with the window theme :|
[13:27] <Aisjfias> lnxslck: Yea but I was thinking that maybe the tearing is fixable without having to install the proprietary drivers
[13:27] <lnxslck> Aisjfias, ok. i'm a nvidia guy, so i can't help you
[13:28] <Aisjfias> lnxslck: I see, maybe someone else can help me then
[13:32] <user44> removed the kernel sources. can i now do rm -rf  /usr/src/linux-3.0.101-0.31 without running in trouble? it takes much space.
[13:33] <Ben64> user44: 3.0? what version of ubuntu?
[13:33] <user44> Ben64: its a suse machine. only ask here, because on #suse nobody answers. does that matter?
[13:34] <Ben64> user44: this channel is for ubuntu support only, sorry
[13:34] <user44> Ben64: ok, sorry
[13:37] <plepzz> Yo, is it somehow possible to create bootable windows USB installer, from the terminal?
[13:37] <murlidhar> how to change the window border theme ?
[13:37] <murlidhar> i tried changing from unity-tweak-tool but the whole gtk theme is changing along with the window theme :|
[13:38] <cfhowlett> plepzz of course.  all the gui tools are merely the pretty face of the underlying CLI commands
[13:38] <plepzz> I've tried the `dd` method, but it does not seem to work for me :/
[13:38] <plepzz> Okey, so do you know what commands I have to use?
[13:38] <gotcha> quick question, in ubuntu 14.04 apache2, where does "AllowOverride All" go to? shouldnt it be in 000-default.conf ??
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !usb
[13:39] <somsip> gotcha: yes
[13:39] <Cyrus> Does anyone know offhand if Ubuntu 12.04 supports GPT boot?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> plepzz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073
[13:40] <gotcha> somsip, so i can add it anywhere in this file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7736826/ ??
[13:40] <plepzz> Thanks cfhowlett, I'll have a look at the links :)
[13:42] <philinux> Cyrus;~ http://askubuntu.com/questions/225439/create-a-gpt-on-a-new-volume-during-installation
[13:43] <somsip> gotcha: http://askubuntu.com/questions/429869/is-this-a-correct-way-to-enable-htaccess-in-apache-2-4-7-on-ubuntu-12-04
[13:46] <gotcha> somsip, thanks, let me read that
[13:49] <amitprakash>  /allchan chanopt confmode on
[13:49] <amitprakash> Hi
[13:50] <amitprakash> I am unable to boot ubuntu live usb in csm boot mode
[13:50] <amitprakash> How can I resolve this issue?
[13:50] <amitprakash>  /set irc_conf_mode on
[13:52] <leee> Hey all - I was wondering how support was on Macbook Airs (specifically model 4,2). I've been looking up documention, but can't tell old docs from updated ones. If the plan is to just nuke and install, shouldn't I just be able to run a live cd?
[13:53] <holstein> !mac
[13:53] <holstein> leee: nothing aobut linux or ubuntu is preventing apple from supporting linux on the device
[13:53] <leee> ight
[13:53] <leee> right*
[13:53] <leee> meaning I shouldn't have to install, refit, do it?
[13:53] <holstein> leee: i chose to.. then, i donated the hardware...
[13:53] <leee> sorry I'm tired, meant do I*?
[13:54] <leee> haha
[13:54] <holstein> intel is typically well, or better supported, but, if it doesnt say "we support linux" on the tin, i dont waste much time trying to force it these days.. i just try and purchase with linux support in mind
[13:55] <leee> weird, I don't see any information on 4,2 on !mac
[13:56] <amitprakash>  /set irc_conf_mode 1
[13:56] <john-mcaleely> leee, it's about a macbook pro, but heres a blog I wrote about installing with and without refit http://mcaleely.com/jh/ToT/2013/07/04/ubuntu-13-04-macbookpro-10-2/
[13:56] <leee> thanks john-mcaleely
[13:56] <john-mcaleely> leee, short version: I'd try it with refit first
[13:56] <Pici> amitprakash: IRC commands need to start with a /, no space before them
[13:57] <amitprakash> Pici, doing so
[13:57] <amitprakash> the ubuntu gnome chat is weird
[13:57] <john-mcaleely> leee, yw
[13:57] <leee> oh wait
[13:57] <amitprakash> I am unable to boot ubuntu live usb in csm boot mode, while I can boot the live USB on UEFI mode with secure boot disabled. However I'd like to boot in CSM/legacy mode to avoid gpt partitions. How can I do so?
[13:57] <leee> refid and refind is simply required for dualboot, which I don't plan on doing.
[13:58] <holstein> leee: i found, as i stated, that even though, just as you, i didnt want dual boot, i chose to, and preferred refit
[13:58] <eeee> j #ubbbbb
[13:58] <ExcaliburX> I need some donation, can someone help?
[13:58] <holstein> !ot | ExcaliburX
[13:59] <amitprakash> Anyone? :(
[14:00] <holstein> !uefi | amitprakash
[14:00] <amitprakash> holstein, I know what UEFI is, I want to avoid it all together
[14:00] <holstein> amitprakash: you may need to make compromises on hardware that doesnt particularly easily support customisation
[14:01] <holstein> amitprakash: to avoid it, you would have needed to do that before purchase.. now, you'll need to engage it specifically
[14:01] <amitprakash> holstein, specifically, the live usb boots in UEFI, refuses to do so when its disabled
[14:01] <holstein> amitprakash: the live CD is doing what it needs to do to work on your hardware
[14:01] <amitprakash> This is the case with the live usb only.. other things work fine
[14:02] <amitprakash> holstein, right.. but fails to do so when UEFI is disabled and I am trying to boot in legacy mode?
[14:02] <scri66le> anyone know how to save your "connect to server" connections in Nautilus?
[14:02] <holstein> amitprakash: i would ask the manufacturer of the hardware. though, i would expact difficultly if the machine is specifically designed to work like that
[14:04] <amitprakash> s/csm/csf
[14:05] <amitprakash> holstein, this specifically, http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347270285.jpg .. notice how the live USB is UEFI mode only
[14:05] <amitprakash> How do I get it to support legacy boot
[14:06] <Yakisoba-> Hi! Can u help: How to make the computer with Ubuntu and its resources visible on the network? Samba installed but there is no effect
[14:07] <compdoc> Yakisoba-, by resources, you mean file sharing?
[14:07] <Yakisoba-> yes
[14:07] <philinux> Yakisoba-;~ have u set up a shared folder
[14:07] <holstein> amitprakash: thats the bios
[14:07] <cfhowlett> !samba | Yakisoba-
[14:07] <holstein> amitprakash: ask the manufacturer how to disable, and boot the live CD as you like..
[14:07] <compdoc> samba is great and wonderful, but you have to manually edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[14:07] <amitprakash> holstein, right.. specifying CSM mode in bios however renders the USB boot unbootable
[14:08] <Yakisoba-> yes. i set up. i opened Home folder in settings... but there is no effect
[14:08] <amitprakash> holstein, Basically, I can boot form the live usb in either UEFI mode or not at all
[14:08] <amitprakash> in CSM mode, all i get is a blinking cursor
[14:08] <thingamabob> hallo
[14:08] <philinux> Yakisoba-;~ you mean folder properties
[14:08] <holstein> amitprakash: ok.. test the stick.. you can easily just try it on other hardware, and make sure its functioning properly.. if it doesnt work, there is little ubuntu or linux can do on a software level to facilitate functioning
[14:08] <Yakisoba-> it seems to me, i'm do something wrong in smb.conf. Where i can download DEFAULT smb.conf?
[14:09] <holstein> amitprakash: you should be able to disable secure booting if the device supports.. ask the creators
[14:09] <amitprakash> holstein, tried it.. works fine on any non UEFI supported system, but for any UEFI supported bios, refuses to boot when bios is asked to boot to legacy/CSM
[14:10] <holstein> amitprakash: sure.. its just that, what is actually going on is, as designed, the hardware is not booting the USB stick.. its not that the stick is doing something, or linux or ubuntu is doing something to prevent booting
[14:10] <Yakisoba-> yes. i open home folder in properties, My Ubuntu PC not visible in other PC. it cannot be ping...
[14:10] <amitprakash> holstein, oh
[14:10] <amitprakash> holstein, so the h/w is designed to disallow booting form USB in legacy mode? my gentoo usb stick works fine fwiw
[14:11] <holstein> amitprakash: legacy mode should allow booting the usb.. but its not, and you say the stick is good..
[14:11] <amitprakash> Yes
[14:12] <philinux> Yakisoba-;~ is this 2 ubuntu machines?
[14:12] <holstein> amitprakash: so, the stick is fully funcitonal.. you are asking the hardware to bypass its blocking "Features".. so, whats not working?
[14:12] <amitprakash> holstein, theres an additional option of treating usb drives like a) HDD b)FDD
[14:12] <amitprakash> maybe that would change things
[14:12] <holstein> amitprakash: i would try *all* options..
[14:12] <amitprakash> aight
[14:13] <Yakisoba-> philinux: 1st PC with windows, 2nd - with Ubuntu (i use PC with Ubuntu right now) so my 2nd PC cannot be ping...
[14:13] <amitprakash> holstein, thanks a lot!
[14:13] <holstein> Yakisoba-: try pulling down firewalls temporarily behind a router firewall..
[14:13] <amitprakash> Yakisoba-, ip of windows and ubuntu systems?
[14:14] <amitprakash> Yakisoba-, ensure they are on the same subnet, that windows is able to ping other systems [ ICMP should not be blocked ]
[14:14] <holstein> see that they both can ping the gateway..
[14:14] <mohamadf> hi guys
[14:14] <msgol> hi
[14:14] <Yakisoba-> windows ip  192.168.2.2   Ubuntu is 192.168.100.3
[14:14] <amitprakash> Yakisoba-, different subnets
[14:14] <holstein> Yakisoba-: not the same subnet..
[14:15] <amitprakash> Yakisoba-, whats the netmask ?
[14:15] <Yakisoba-> mask is 255.255.255.0
[14:18] <Yakisoba-> so, it is possible make my PC  showb=n on the LAN?
[14:19] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: that netmask only allows for the fourth position on ipv4 to be anywhere between 1-254 (0 and 255 are reserved and implied) if you change your netmask to 255.255.0.0 you will allow the same freedom to the third position on ipv3
[14:19] <kriskropd> ipv4*
[14:20] <Yakisoba-> wait. Can you explain me again: if i change netmask, my problems is gone?
[14:20] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: however, your netmask much match the gateway/rouer for LAN in order to actually have two machines on such very different subnets like that
[14:20] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: what is the ip and netmask on your router?
[14:21] <holstein> Yakisoba-: i say, you may consider just leaving everything to automatic defaults.. let the router deal with distributing ip addresses
[14:22] <Yakisoba-> ip of router is 192.168.2.1  netmask... i dunno how to know it,
[14:22] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: does your router include a DHCP service? if so (and preferably) follow holstein's advice and tell the client machines to acquire ip automatically/via dhcp
[14:23] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: your ubuntu machine will not work unless you change the ip to 192.168.2.x (x can be any number not already used) and we can probably assume the netmask is 255.255.255.0 (it usually is)
[14:24] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: to clarify, if your router has DHCP, use that, if not, change ubuntu machine to 192.168.2.x
[14:25] <Yakisoba-> my router is Huawei HG8245 sorry i'm newbie in Network theme....
[14:26] <holstein> Yakisoba-: then, dont do customization, and static IP's like that.. nothing is "broken".. youa re configuring the machines *not* to be able to communicate with each other
[14:28] <Yakisoba-> Oh. i thought I just need somewhere in the Ubuntu to register the new address and it will work?
[14:28] <holstein> Yakisoba-: no.. you'll need the machine to be on the same subnet. right not, they are not, and are specifically configured *not* to be able to access each other.. did someone else configure them? is one a "work" machine?
[14:30] <holstein> Yakisoba-: there are easy ways, with most routers, to setup a "guest" wifi network.. if you are on that with the ubuntu machine, that can be the simplest explantation for what you are seeing
[14:32] <Yakisoba-> ok i understand this. So, you want to say that the router gave the wrong address my Ubuntu PC - that why nothing work?
[14:32] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: the router didn't make that mistake
[14:32] <holstein> Yakisoba-: i didnt say that.. the router is doint what its designed to do. nothing is "broken"
[14:33] <holstein> Yakisoba-: do you indeed have a guest wifi? and is the ubuntu machine on it?
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Yakisoba- your router can be re-set to "defaults" ... you might want to research that option.
[14:34] <Yakisoba-> sorry me for my "questions". I just wanted to make everything work perfectly. I had no idea how complicated everything...
[14:35] <Yakisoba-> guest wifi? yes it has 2nd wifi network Opened. Point called "wirelessNet"
[14:35] <holstein> Yakisoba-: this is a support channel where your questions are welcome.. do you have a guest wifi connection?
[14:35] <rcw2> how can i show the last 5 packages i installed
[14:36] <holstein> Yakisoba-: if you are connecting on a wifi setup that is designed to isolate, that can be isolating the machines, by design
[14:37] <Yakisoba-> i understand. i try to connect Opened network then
[14:38] <kriskropd> rcw2: i only know of 'dpkg -l' which lists all packages installed, but I'm not sure there is any chronological order available
[14:39] <JediMaster> rcw2: if you haven't done an apt-get clean the packages may still be in the apt cache dir
[14:39] <rcw2> JediMaster, where's that dir
[14:39] <eeee> /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:40] <JediMaster> ^
[14:42] <sandstrom> It seems like `/etc/init.d/ipsec` is missing after installing the `strongswan` package on Ubuntu 14.04. Is this expected?
[14:46] <ribasushi> hi
[14:46] <ribasushi> I have a system, which on-login says: Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-30-generic x86_64)
[14:47] <ribasushi> yet /etc/debian_version says 'jessie/sid'
[14:47] <ribasushi> is this normal?
[14:48] <compdoc> ribasushi, thats what mine says
[14:49] <genii> ribasushi: Yes, normal
[14:49] <compdoc> since its not debian, it might not mean what you think
[14:50] <kriskropd> rcw2: you can also try looking at the logs in /var/log/apt/history*
[14:50] <rcw2> ty
[14:50] <kriskropd> rcw2: they include: start-date, commandline given, packages installed, pacakges removed, and end-date
[14:51] <kriskropd> ribasushi: use 'lsb_release -a' to identify your system
[14:56] <tp__> Hi can i ask a question about comand here?
[14:56] <Pici> tp__: sure, the worst we might say is that there is a better channel to ask about it in.
[14:58] <tp__> I know how to start firefox at startup. but now i want to start it 1 min after start. so commad in start up Application is "firefox" what shgould i put after it -- ?
[14:59] <Pici> tp__: sleep 60 && firefox
[14:59] <tp__> Do i have to do a script and call that?
[14:59] <Pici> tp__: you might
[15:00] <eeee> rhythm player just suddenly started playing a song now while i was lying on the bed
[15:01] <eeee> O.o
[15:01] <eeee> it's been paused for an hour or so
[15:01] <eeee> is this a concern?
[15:01] <genii> eeee: Only if it's playing make-out music
[15:01] <SchrodingersScat> eeee: you may have a bad case of poltergeist
[15:01] <eeee> lol
[15:01] <tp__> so "sleep 60 && firefox" it is?
[15:02] <Flolila> #ubuntu  i need your help
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !ask|Flolila
[15:03] <Flolila> before i changed to linux i used to have a somewhat silent pc
[15:03] <nisstyre> Flolila: sounds like a problem with the cpu frequency scaling
[15:03] <Flolila> now there is at least on fan that is speeding up and then shortly slows down again
[15:03] <nisstyre> or fan control
[15:03] <nisstyre> or both
[15:03] <Flolila> hm
[15:04] <nisstyre> or it could just be a coincidence and you need a new fan
[15:04] <Flolila> yes i got an error about sensor module(s?) on bootup
[15:04] <cfhowlett> Flolila bingo!
[15:04] <ubilli8> please can you help with this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24534518/creating-a-virtual-host
[15:05] <Flolila> do you know how i can fix this?
[15:05] <nisstyre> Flolila: try googling for information about fan control problems
[15:06] <nisstyre> I have never had any problems so I don't know what steps you might do to troubleshoot it
[15:06] <Flolila> yes i tried this but the informations didnt help me
[15:06] <Flolila> or maybe i did something wrong
[15:06] <nisstyre> Flolila: did you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737
[15:06] <nisstyre> I admit that is pretty involved for someone new to Linux
[15:07] <Flolila> unreliable cpu thermal sensor
[15:07] <nisstyre> Flolila: if that's the case then that's bad
[15:07] <Flolila> ;_;
[15:07] <Flolila> uh oh
[15:07] <nisstyre> you could just run the fan constantly
[15:08] <nisstyre> that would wear it out quicker too though
[15:08] <Flolila> hm
[15:09] <Flolila> nisstyre any suggestion? best would be something graphical
[15:09] <Flolila> this console stuff seems too hard
[15:09] <nisstyre> Flolila: it isn't that hard, just simpler
[15:09] <nisstyre> I don't know of any GUI program though, sorry, try searching the software centre
[15:15] <Flolila> nisstyre thanks for your help, i wish there would be a program that could tell me which services i could switch off because i dont need them etc
[15:15] <nisstyre> Flolila: I agree a program like that would be useful
[15:15] <nisstyre> I believe you can see which services are active somehow, not sure if a gui program exists to do that
[15:16] <Flolila> there are so many processes running that i have no idea what they are what they do and wether i need them or not
[15:16] <nisstyre> but it would be cool if it could pop up with information about each one and so on
[15:17] <skulltower> Does ubuntu have a dark theme? Or is it dark by default?
[15:17] <nisstyre> Flolila: if you type 'pgrep -lf someprogram' at your terminal without the ' characters it will show you the command used to start that program
[15:17] <nisstyre> and the process id as well
[15:17] <nisstyre> (that's just a number)
[15:17] <eeee> nisstyre: system monitor > processes (gui to check . no info though)
[15:18] <nisstyre> eeee: ah right, I've been ignoring the default gnome stuff in ubuntu for so long
[15:23] <blackyboy> Hi how to remove one of the account from irc
[15:23] <ubilli8> please can you help with this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24534518/creating-a-virtual-host
[15:23] <blackyboy> NickServ- babinlonston@live.com has too many accounts registered
[15:23] <eeee> blackyboy: /nickserv drop <nickname> <password>
[15:23] <blackyboy> I want to use this nick for here after what i want to do
[15:23] <Pici> blackyboy: please ask in #freenode
[15:24] <eeee> blackyboy: this is ubuntu support not freenode
[15:24] <blackyboy> ok
[15:24] <cfhowlett> blackyboy <eeee> blackyboy: /nickserv drop <nickname> <password>
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !cookie|eeee
[15:25] <eeee> yeah i know it is offtopic.. it's 1 line though
[15:26] <cfhowlett> eeee cookies are a reward for outstanding contribution.
[15:27] <eeee> cfhowlett: i thought you were being sarcastic
[15:33] <Yakisoba-> hi again.
[15:36] <broels> anyone running lxde that could point me to a link real quickly?
[15:36] <mrgreen> sup
[15:37] <blackyboy> broels:yes im
[15:37] <underpressure> Hello! When I type "douglas hofstadter" in the application search thingy, i get a result from wikipedia. that means everything i type there is transmitted through the internet. how can i get rid of that?
[15:37] <mrgreen> exit
[15:37] <bcvery> !lxde | broels
[15:38] <eeee> underpressure: system settings > security & privacy > search
[15:38] <broels> in lxde's applet for time, in settings there's a link to a utility that makes sense of the format %Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%
[15:38] <broels> what's that link? I think its lxde at least
[15:38] <underpressure> eeee: thanks
[15:39] <Yakisoba-> kriskropd: hi. can i ask again my question about visible Ubuntu PC in network. so. I opened Router settings: DHCP Server Configuration and i see Enable primary DHCP server, adress LAN Host IP Address: 192.168.100.1 (my Ubuntu in this subnet) AND Secondary Address Pool 192.168.2.1 ...should i disable Primary and it will work?
[15:42] <broels> the digital clock rather
[15:42] <saucy_squidoo> Hi. Is 12.04 still getting updates?
[15:42] <Pici> saucy_squidoo: It is still getting security updates.  It is supported until 2017.
[15:43] <saucy_squidoo> ok
[15:43] <saucy_squidoo> thanks]
[15:44] <Yakisoba-> or everyone, can advice me? My Ubuntu PC in network has wrong subnet. in Router settings DHCP i see Primary IPs (my router in this) and secondary adress Pool (subnet that i wish join 192.168.2.x) so i need disable Primary to make Ubuntu visible? (1nd PC has 192,168.2.2 ip)
[15:44] <Rug> I feel really stupid asking this question.  I have 200+ user accounts I need to delete from a server.  Can I just delete them from /etc/passwd & /etc/shadow or do I have to run the 'deluser' command?
[15:44] <underpressure> Where is the config file for the launcher on the left of ubuntu 14?
[15:45] <underpressure> For example, when I add an application there, where can I edit the command that is used to start it?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> underpressure: there is no Ubuntu 14, there is Ubuntu 14.04
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> underpressure: the 14th release of Ubuntu is Natty, which is EOL
[15:48] <underpressure> ActionParsnip: yeah, i have 14.04
[15:48] <genii> Rug: For manually, it's more work to delete all the users from /etc/passwd /etc/shadow and /etc/group and then remove all their home directories manually as well, when deluser can make all those modifications for you.
[15:49] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: idk what the difference between primary and secondary address pools are (ive never heard of that) however, why not just have all your machines on the same network in the first place?
[15:49] <Rug> genii: ok thanks
[15:49] <kriskropd> Rug: if you have a list of all the users who need to be deleted, you could run something like 'for i in $(cat list_of_users_to_remove.txt);do sudo deluser "$i";done'
[15:50] <genii> Rug: Might want to call it with --remove-home as well
[15:51] <underpressure> Anybody? Is there a config file for the launcher of unity?
[15:51] <heftig-z> when forking ubuntu packages, what should the version number look like?
[15:52] <Rug> kriskropd: yes thanks that's a good idea
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> underpressure: you set the options in the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications
[15:52] <heftig-z> e.g. starting with 1.2.4-1~ubuntu1
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> underpressure: if you make an alias in ~/.bashrc then it will be used in the command on the icon. You may want to make your own and have a quicklist inside it (useful)
[15:53] <paranoids> Hi
[15:53] <paranoids> apache2 SSL mpm-worker mod_fcgid Resource deadlock avoided
[15:53] <paranoids> I'm having troubles similar to this bugreport
[15:53] <paranoids> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53999
[15:53] <paranoids> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 amd64 Server
[15:53] <paranoids> after a while even under non heavy server load you'll get [php-cgi] <defunct> zombies which will never die until apache server restart
[15:53] <paranoids> can anybody confirm this?
[15:53] <mettjus> hi all! can anybody please tell me what's the cleanest way to add postgresql to startup items?
[15:54] <mettjus> i tried update-rc.d postgresql defaults but is says System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/postgresql already exist.
[15:54] <underpressure> ActionParsnip: you mean there is a file called ".desktop" in /usr/share/applications/ ? i dont have it.
[15:55] <heftig-z> mettjus: ls -l /etc/rc?.d/S??postgresql    shows things?
[15:55] <mettjus> and it's true, in /etc/init.d there's a postgresql executable file
[15:55] <mettjus> uh.. checkin
[15:56] <trijntje> underpressure:  ls /usr/share/applications | grep unity
[15:56] <underpressure> ActionParsnip: ah, you probably mean the *.desktop files...
[15:56] <mettjus> heftig-z: it lists 4 links in rc2 to 5 to the postgresql executable in /etc/init.d
[15:57] <mettjus> so i guess it should be running…
[15:57] <heftig-z> mettjus: then it's enabled
[15:57] <underpressure> trijntje: im looking for the terminal application, that i added there. strangely, there is debian-xterm.desktop and debian-uxterm.desktop in that dir.
[15:57] <mettjus> but it's not running
[15:57] <heftig-z> checks its logs
[15:58] <mettjus> service postgres status says down and pg_lsclusters says down
[15:59] <jay__> hello people
[15:59] <mettjus> last log is from 4 hours ago, since when i started figuring out how to add it to startup
[16:00] <Guest34509> hi, Im having troubles with Kubuntu 14.04 installation and UEFI MODE.... I used boot repair but nothing....
[16:00] <jay__> yesterday, i was having some issues and a few people were trying to helping me. i just finished putting my linux distro on a USB stick (via Unetbootin). I did an integrity check on the new pc before trying to install it. and it said there were two files with errors. what can i do about it?
[16:00] <heftig-z> ergh, polari can't deal with big rooms; sorry, leaving
[16:01] <Guest34509> someone could help me please???
[16:02] <trijntje> Guest34509: you have to be specific if you want help: what exactly went wrong during the installation, what exactly did you do with boot repair, and what went wrong etc
[16:02] <Guest34509> Ive used >>> [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"  AND [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "Installed in EFI mode" || echo "Installed in Legacy mode" both show me uefi mode
[16:03] <Guest34509> the error is that when I turn on my laptop it just show me the Kubuntu Splash then a black screen
[16:03] <jay__> can anyone help me with this?
[16:03] <jay__> yesterday, i was having some issues and a few people were trying to helping me. i just finished putting my linux distro on a USB stick (via Unetbootin). I did an integrity check on the new pc before trying to install it. and it said there were two files with errors. what can i do about it?
[16:04] <bjrohan> Is it possible to have upstart NOT generate a log for a script?
[16:04] <darkxploit> elo..
[16:05] <jay__> i guess no one is going to help me?
[16:05] <bcvery> !patience | jay__
[16:06] <jay__> right away? it's been 5 minutes
[16:06] <jay__> no 5 seconds bcvery
[16:06] <bcvery> jay__, that's not a long time
[16:06] <jay__> yes it is. i have a life
[16:06] <jay__> i assume you do to
[16:07] <Guest34509> Im using just linux in my entire hdd, so I created 1 efi partition of 250mb, 1 / partition of 27000mb, 4096 swap partition and the rest for my home partition
[16:07] <cfhowlett> jay__ for INSTANT answers, purchase paid support from canonical.
[16:07] <jay__> it doesn't need to be instant. just respond in a reasonable amount of time
[16:07] <jay__> 5 minutes to say yes or no is way to long
[16:08] <cfhowlett> !patience
[16:08] <cfhowlett> !attitude
[16:08] <jay__> am i going to get help or not?
[16:08] <jay__> simple question. yes or no answer
[16:09] <jay__> i have two files with errors after i do an integrity check on my USB stick before trying to install
[16:09] <jay__> I'm a newb to linux and don't know anything
[16:09] <cfhowlett> jay__ errors = make a new USB
[16:09] <kmyst> hey anybody ever see an issue where ubuntu will report time being in UTC after booting following a power failure?
[16:10] <jay__> cfhowlett: is there a better way to make a USB stick bootable? i've tried Unetbootin, pendrive, and LiLi USB Creator
[16:10] <genii> jay__: It means that most likely either the original file you made the stick from is corrupt, or else the usb stick has some bad area where those two files are sitting. You should check the original file against it's md5sum and make sure it matches
[16:10] <cfhowlett> jay__ did you verify the ISO you downloaded?
[16:10] <jay__> yes. i did a check sum. it matched
[16:10] <kmyst> i.e. before logging in the clock reports UTC, but when logged in ntp updates to the correct time? and yes the BIOS is set to local time not UTC
[16:11] <genii> jay__: If the md5sum matches, then it's most likely physically the usb stick you used.
[16:11] <cfhowlett> jay this ^^^
[16:11] <jay__> How could I find out if the USB stick has bad sectors? is there a program for that?
[16:13] <jay__> Or, just check it's overall health in general to make sure it is working properly
[16:13] <Guest34509> jay__: just try using other usb, If you dont have you could use a cd or dvd.... If you want to verify your .iso works correctly, mount it on a virtual machine
[16:14] <jay__> the iso is mountable on daemon. and the check sum matches properly
[16:14] <jay__> it must be the USB stick then?
[16:15] <Guest34509> jay__: perfect, just try to use another one!!
[16:15] <jay__> I don't have a CD or DVD atm.the other USB sticks I have are too small and have my girlfriends files on them
[16:15] <genii> jay__: The problem with checking for bad sectors there is that this assumes a filesystem to be used ojnto which the bad sectors can be marked as not to use. But when iso file is made onto the usb, it is normally done in a way of copying an entire pre-existing filesystem over.
[16:15] <genii> food, afk
[16:16] <anggoro> Hello everyone ... I'm a beginner in Linux / Ubuntu. I want to ask a question. Is it okey?
 Assuming it's alright, here my problem. I can not install my Epson L300 printer to Ubuntu Studio 14.04
 I try from Setting > Printer > Add .... then I choose Epson L300
[16:16] <jay__> so even if some sectors are bad, after a format the sectos might be showing as good again to the new file system genii ?
[16:17] <jay__> so what's the way to ensure you have parts of your USB stick that aren't working properly genni?
[16:17] <Guest69355> what is the most secure internet browser
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Guest69355 secure from what?
[16:18] <amitprakash> How do I disable automount for systemd?
[16:18] <Guest69355> like wont share my data
[16:18] <Guest69355> with anyone
[16:18] <jhutchins> anggoro: What happens?
[16:18] <tpw_rules> this is going to sound extremely silly but i somehow accidentally changed my desktop environment? system rebooted unexpectedly and now the background is blue triangles and squares and everything is weird
[16:18] <Guest69355> and wont be a hole into my system
[16:18] <jhutchins> Guest69355: lynx
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Guest69355 text based browser because they're so unpopular
[16:19] <cfhowlett> !browser
[16:19] <kriskropd> Guest69355: you can disable javascript and clear cache/cookies/history etc
[16:19] <jay__> i would think the least used browsers are likely to be the safest Guest
[16:19] <kriskropd> Guest69355: though security is more a matter of caution and common sense than technology
[16:19] <Guest69355> ok i want this for an old guy who is not tech savy
[16:19] <anggoro> I can not install my printer (Epson L300)
[16:20] <cfhowlett> Guest69355 on FF and chromium, it's possible to set incongnito as the default launch mode
[16:20] <tpw_rules> yeah, the bootup logo is just the gnome foot now. what did i do
[16:20] <Guest69355> so like a browser that defults on not sharing data
[16:20] <kriskropd> Guest69355: I like elinks , but links2 is good too because it has a g option to enable image viewing - there is also w3m which supports image viewing with some tinkering
[16:20] <jhutchins> anggoro: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[16:21] <jay__> Guest69355 use the most user friendly then. likely chrome with incognito because it's super simple. not a lot of options to mess things up with
[16:21] <apeoid> hi.  I can't seem to get my PC to boot to ubuntu on USB hard drive
[16:21] <jay__> Does anyone know how I can find out if my USB stick is working properly?
[16:21] <Guest69355> will incongnito mode track your history and stuff
[16:21] <kriskropd> Guest69355: no it wont
[16:21] <Guest69355> woot
[16:21] <Guest69355> thanks all
[16:21] <apeoid> I'm about to go buy a sata cable, this is bullshit
[16:21] <Guest69355> you guys rock
[16:22] <apeoid> I hate computers
[16:22] <kriskropd> Guest69355: if he gives his bank password to a phishing website, though, that isn't the web browsers fault - make sure you educate him on safe practices
[16:22] <jay__> i love / hate computer too :)
[16:22] <cfhowlett> apeoid  no profanity needed or permitted here.  thank you
[16:22] <apeoid> mmmm yes
[16:22] <eeee> hey jay__ whats up, did you do the integrity check?
[16:22] <jay__> finally some help!
[16:22] <apeoid> gotcha, cfhowlett
[16:22] <jay__> eeee: thank god for you
[16:23] <jay__> bless your heart (if you're into that lol)
[16:23] <eeee> lol
[16:23] <jay__> i did and i got two file errors
[16:23] <apeoid> even when computers work I'm feeling bad
[16:23] <jay__> two files had erroes*
[16:23] <apeoid> all I want to do is make enough money to live in the woods for the rest of my life
[16:23] <bcvery> apeoid, do you have an ubuntu support question?  If not, feel free to vent/rant in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:24] <jay__> people here are suggesting it's my USB stick eeee but I don't know how to test it to make sure it's a healthy stick
[16:24] <jay__> can i don't have another one that i can use
[16:24] <apeoid> I came here talking about my issue.  I was here yesterday talking about my issue.  I'm working on presenting it in case we can work through it here.
[16:24] <cfhowlett> jay__ "two files had zeroes" = you did NOT md5sum hashcheck the ISO or the USB as was repeatedly suggested.
[16:24] <kriskropd> apeoid: what is your issue?
[16:24] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[16:25] <jay__> cfhowlett: you're saying i'm lying? cause if you are fuck you
[16:25] <jay__> i check it with winmd5free
[16:25] <jay__> twice
[16:25] <apeoid> install any linux to usb hard disk, try to boot, it hangs at the mobo splash.
[16:25] <cfhowlett> jay__ drop the attitude and drop the profanity.
[16:25] <IdleOne> jay__: please watch the language and attitude
[16:25] <jay__> i know the iso is healthy and fine
[16:25] <Guest34509> I have problems with my Kubuntu 14.04 installation and UEFI MODE....  I have linux in my entire hdd, I created efi partition of 250mb, / of 27000mb, swap of 4096mb and /home the rest.... I installed in EFI mode but when I restarted my laptop it didnt respond, so I used BOOT REPAIR and all process were succesfull, I restarted it again and just show me kubuntu splah then a black screen..... Someone knows about it please
[16:26] <jay__> maybe i wouldn't have an attitude if people would believe me. i'm not going to ly to you when i'm asking for help
[16:26] <eeee> jay__: why dont you download virtualbox in ubuntu (get the .deb file from the website) and test whatever iso you want
[16:26] <jay__> what purpose would that do me?
[16:26] <jay__> i've tested the iso, and many other iso's i've downloaded. they all match perfectly eeee
[16:27] <jay__> it's likely the USB stick like it's been suggested to me. i just need a way to test it
[16:27] <fwaokda> anyone know what command i could run in terminal to see what version of freetds-dev i have installed?
[16:28] <cfhowlett> fwaokda apt-cache policy freetds-dev
[16:28] <apeoid> I've got ubuntu installed with UEFI partition on a 3tb barracuda which is connected via an external enclosure, usb 3.0.  after the install (this time) the computer actually booted on the hard drive.
[16:28] <fwaokda> sweet thanks very mucho!
[16:28] <jay__> i can't download virtualbox btw. I don't have ubuntu on there anymore eeee.
[16:29] <kriskropd> jay__: virtualbox works on every platfo
[16:29] <kriskropd> jay__: if you think the usb is bad, you need another one that works to confirm it
[16:29] <jay__> I am ready to do a fresh install. i just need to test the USB stick. if people just don't know how to do that. please tell me and i'll ask elsewhere
[16:29] <jay__> there is a test for everything in computers. is there not a USB test?
[16:30] <Guest34509> jay__: what capacity your usb is??
[16:30] <eeee> jay__: http://www.pendriveapps.com/test-for-fake-usb-flash-drives-h2testw/
[16:30] <eeee> it checks for faulty usb drives
[16:30] <mentoc> Is it possible to prioritize traffic based on which port is used?
[16:30] <jay__> 16 gigs
[16:30] <jay__> sweeeet thanks eeee
[16:30] <mentoc> I'm guessing something like: iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport 53 -j QOS --set-level foobar
[16:31] <mentoc> ah, I think I found it
[16:32] <igor_> HI! What better,ubuntu 13.10 or 14.04? Please tell me features of 14.04^)
[16:33] <anggoro> I tried to install my EPson Printer (L300)
[16:33] <anggoro> I go to System > Printer
[16:33] <anggoro> Then I choose add
[16:33] <anggoro> then I plug my printer
[16:33] <anggoro> Epson L300 appear, so I choose this L300, click forward
[16:33] <anggoro> then it search for driver
[16:33] <anggoro> Then I was told by the system that there is downloadable driver
[16:33] <anggoro> I click accept the term
[16:33] <anggoro> I click forward
[16:33] <anggoro> Then it say install the driver
[16:33] <anggoro> I was asked for password
[16:33] <anggoro> enter the password
[16:33] <anggoro> it installs the driver
[16:33] <anggoro> But then .... nothing progress
[16:33] <anggoro> I tried restarting my laptop
[16:33] <anggoro> and start all over again
[16:33] <anggoro> but it will end the same way as before
[16:33] <Guest34509> jay__: when you use unetbootin I thik you could assing a free space at the begining of the usb... so try assinging 10gb, if the bad sector is there youll be able to use it in this way
[16:33] <anggoro> Sorry .... the question is so simple ... but I really don't know.
[16:33] <anggoro> For 20 years, I used Windows... so I am really a beginner in Ubuntu / Linux
[16:33] <kriskropd> !punctuation
[16:34] <Guest34509> jay__: it's just an idea, Ive never tried it before
[16:34] <Yakisoba-> kriskropd: hi again. now, My Ubuntu and 2nd PC in one subnet! Ubuntu is 192.168.100.3 and 2nd PC is 192.168.100.2 ) in Ubuntu, in Network places, now i see other PCbut i can't browse its folders
[16:35] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: so your networking is fixed, now ou have a new issue?
[16:35] <kriskropd> you*
[16:35] <Yakisoba-> kriskropd yes! I see other PC in Ubuntu BUT i can't browse his folders.
[16:35] <fridaynext> if i'm running a cronjob that needs to hit a url, does the url need to be in quotes?
[16:35] <jay__> hmm how do you asses space in windows ?
[16:36] <jay__> i can only test 12 megabytes of data out of 14.9 gigs? that's weird
[16:36] <eeee> Yakisoba-: i think you need to share a folder
[16:36] <kriskropd> Yakisoba-: that is very vague - are the files in windows shared? i only know about accessing samba file server from windows, not vice-a-versa
[16:36] <Yakisoba-> kriskropd Thank you! You adviced me join 2 PC in one subnet ) cool!
[16:36] <Yakisoba-> wait. i write now...
[16:37] <jay__> i have a question. when i format my USB stick in windows. what does allocation unit size mean?
[16:37] <ChemicalB> I can't get utf-8 to show correctly in nano over ssh. locale set, putty utf-8 set. any ideas?
[16:37] <jay__> it's defaulted to 8192 bytes. is this ok?
[16:37] <anggoro> Is there anyone who has any idea what I should do to solve my problem?
[16:38] <kriskropd> ChemicalB: your ssh client, or the terminal it is running in rather, might not have proper encoding set up for utf-8
[16:38] <Guest34509> jay__: with UNETBOTIN... below where you put the .iso
[16:38] <Yakisoba-> when i try to connect Windows share manually (Menu- connect to windows share), it asks me samba user password, But i cant remember this
[16:38] <Guest34509> jay__: below you where the .iso
[16:39] <kriskropd> ChemicalB: sorry, you said putty was set to utf-8? then maybe it's server side afterall - are you running inside tmux or screen?
[16:39] <ChemicalB> nope
[16:39] <Guido1> Hello, i need to recover my data. During the conection of the external driv,e with wiindows 8.1 computer i got an error message and now windows 8.1 doesn recognice it, windows xp can see it, but not open the files any more. how / with which program can i recover it, prefeurable with the folder structure?
[16:40] <ChemicalB> for instance, a © (c) symbol comes out as a circle with question mark in it
[16:40] <Yakisoba-> to all: Can you give me default SMB conf file? it seems to me, i do something bad in my file
[16:40] <jay__> Guest34509: do you mean space before the partition for the iso? like the bootloader size?
[16:41] <kriskropd> ChemicalB: I'm not sure then, if your ssh client (putty) is set correctly and you aren't running through a filter (like tmux or screen) I don't know why utf-8 wouldn't work properly
[16:41] <Guest34509> Guido1: use a linux distribution to make a backup, then format your external drive with NTFS and put your files into again
[16:41] <jay__> eeee: Test for Fake USB Flash Drives is running
[16:42] <ChemicalB> hmmm. maybe a reboot after the character set change is needed?
[16:42] <Guest34509> jay__: yes, i think the name in Unetbootin is persistence space or something like that!!
[16:42] <eeee> jay__: cool
[16:43] <jay__> ya i think they call it that but i didn't know what it meant. so persistence space is reserved for GRUB for example?
[16:43] <Guido1> Guest34509:  I get an errror (input / output error) if i try to open or coppy a file
[16:43] <jay__> I"m just trying to understand the whole process
[16:43] <jay__> it says it'll take 38 minutes eeee
[16:43] <jay__> it'll be a while lol
[16:44] <eeee> jay__: persistence allows you to save stuff between reboots in a live cd
[16:44] <apeoid> I'm thinking about going out and buying another sata cable so I can just skip this USB external nonsense.  HOWEVER.  It did boot once to the ubuntu installation on the external hard drive, right after install.  it has a UEFI partition.  However, when I boot, it just hangs on the mobo splash if I have the hard drive turned on.
[16:44] <Guest34509> Guido1: in a linux distribution???
[16:44] <jay__> oh. so is persistence a linux swap area on the hdd?
[16:45] <apeoid> I have changed the bios settings according to ubuntu help docs and tried many times.  I've disconnected the other drives in the computer so I just have dvd, usb hard drive.  that's how I install.
[16:45] <Yakisoba-> anyone help?
[16:46] <Guido1> Guest34509: yes,, i got the eerror with linux
[16:46] <jay__> should i format without persistence then (aka Allocation unit size in windows) since i'm not using a live cd?
[16:46] <bjrohan> Is it possible to have upstart NOT generate a log for a script?
[16:46] <apeoid> I have to get on the MUNI and go clear downtown to get a sata cable because San Francisco is weird... please help me avoid going out doors
[16:46] <Yakisoba-> I have 2 PC in local network. One subnet. I see Windows-machine from Ubuntu but I can't access to PC from Ubuntu
[16:47] <eeee> jay__:  persistence isnt the allocation unit size in windows, it's what you set in unetbootin or lili
[16:47] <jay__> ok. well what is allocation unit size in windows for?
[16:48] <Guest34509> Guido1: that's so weird, because usually that problem is with permissions
[16:49] <Guest34509> Guido1: I have an external drive as well and that problems happened to me too!!
[16:49] <apeoid> I'll have to take a shower, get dressed, go out into meatspace with nothing but a gingerbread android phone... it'll take hours to get a sata cable.
[16:49] <arun_> GRUB timeout=0 even when explicitly et to non-zero value
[16:49] <arun_> any ideas anyone
[16:50] <jay__> eeee: if this ends up being a hardware issue with my USB stick i'll be Sooooo much happier. I've had nothing but problems with linux and if it's all because of my stupid USB stick, it'll give me a renewed outlook on linux. i'll give it a fair second chance :)
[16:50] <Guido1> Guest34509: so maybe windows 8.1 did something strange with the rights. It takes about 5 or 10 minutes until i can see the first layer of the folder structure
[16:52] <apeoid> it's not linux.  it's computers in general.  small bit procedural programmed elaborate calculators.
[16:52] <apeoid> just wait until the singularity next year.  we'll all leave our bodies and inhabit the physics of the universe itself.
[16:52] <cfhowlett> !ot|apeoid
[16:54] <apeoid> but until then, my issue = new computer, dvd drive and usb hard drive only, install works fine and hard drive shows uefi partition.  reboot hangs at mobo splash.  I've changed the bios settings.  after installing ubuntu, it rebooted and the hard drive booted.  any additional restarts, it hangs at mobo splash.
[16:54] <jay__> jesus cfhowlett you're like the police in here
[16:54] <apeoid> it's early in the day jay
[16:55] <trism> bjrohan: add: console none I belive
[16:55] <cfhowlett> arun_ you edited your grub, but did you SAVE the changes to grub?
[16:55] <apeoid> should the boot install be on sda or sda1?
[16:56] <genii> apeoid: sda
[16:56] <jay__> i don't know what's happening with you're situation apeoid. but from what i understand, the bootload comes before any partitions
[16:57] <jay__> so sda is the drive, and you want it at the begining of the drive
[16:57] <jay__> so you want sda. sda1 will be a partition. that's where the OS is
[16:57] <apeoid> ok good
[16:57] <jay__> bootloader* i meant
[16:57] <bjrohan> trism: thank you!
[16:59] <Guido1> any tips how i can get the data back with the folder structure?
[16:59] <Guest34509> genii: I have on sd1 an EFI partition but on sda2 /boot/efi... I used boot repair and it put that itself.... is it correct?? IM still having problems with my boot process!!
[17:01] <jay__> i dunno much about that Guest34509. maybe someone else can help you. I did however download parted magic from kickasstorrents and ran it from RAM. it has a program that will reinstall or fixed GRUB if that's what your bootloader is
[17:02] <jay__> I installed parted magic to a USB stick via LiLi USB Creator. (just verifying)
[17:02] <Guest34509> jay__: thanks I'll  try
[17:03] <histo> !uefi | Guest34509
[17:03] <apeoid> good luck
[17:03] <apeoid> I've been through that page twice
[17:04] <ms7> Hello, when setting up the default fail2ban configs, what is the proper way of ensuring I can connect from multiple IPs if I don't know what they will be (traveling often). This is for a VPS install of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
[17:04] <histo> ms7: fail2ban ban's after 3 failed login attempts by default.
[17:04] <histo> ms7: if You want pm me your ip and I'll try and get banned
[17:05] <ms7> Aha, I thought that was the case… so then it's just a matter of setting my home ip for being ignored, then changing the retry count and times.
[17:06] <histo> ms7: why would you ignore your IP?  don't you have the password and or key?
[17:06] <apeoid> I'm going to try the hard drive on sata.  I'll let you all know the results.
[17:06] <ms7> I do
[17:06] <histo> ms7: then you shouldn't get banned
[17:07] <histo> ms7: what services are you trying to have it monitor
[17:07] <ms7> from Digital Ocean guides: "Including your address will guarantee that you do not accidentally ban yourself from your own server."
[17:07] <ms7> better safe than sorry?
[17:07] <ms7> nothing yet, I'm learning as I go about this.
[17:08] <eeee> hey jay__ i had to go for a bit, did the usb test finish yet
[17:08] <jay__> eeee: it still has 15 minutes left
[17:08] <eeee> oh ok
[17:08] <modernbob> anyone know of something better than ark
[17:09] <histo> ms7: add an ignoreip = your.ip.address.here    in your jail.conf
[17:09] <histo> info ark
[17:09] <cfhowlett> !info ark
[17:09] <histo> modernbob: what are you trying to do?
[17:09] <modernbob> rar or zip a directory...
[17:10] <modernbob> ark is super slow
[17:10] <ms7> histo: Would that be the public IP?
[17:10] <X-Seti> Hello, I have an odd question and I know this isn't the place.. I am looking for open source coders who might have some free time to help a community. I really want to be pointed in the right direction.
[17:10] <cfhowlett> X-Seti ##linux would be a good place to ask
[17:11] <histo> ms7: yes
[17:11] <ms7> histo: thank you, much appreciated
[17:11] <X-Seti> chrhowlett. thanks m8. I do not often come here so that chat room is a start.
[17:11] <cfhowlett> X-Seti happy2help
[17:11] <histo> modernbob: zip  works rather well or tar cxvf foo.tgz /some/directory
[17:12] <histo> sorry tar czvf
[17:12] <VaticanCameos> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/82
[17:13] <jay__> eeee: there is exactly 1 megabyter that can't be tested on the USB stick. there was a message that came up saying that might be normal if formatted by windows(which it was) does this sound right?
[17:13] <ikonia> VaticanCameos: ?
[17:13] <VaticanCameos> ikonia: It's a glorious troll.
[17:13] <modernbob> cfhowlett: tar might be an option. Although I really wanted something gui but ark doesn't seem to want to do a directory just a single file
[17:13] <ikonia> VaticanCameos: what is ?
[17:14] <eeee> yeah i think so, it is at the beginning of the usb,
[17:14] <VaticanCameos> check out the PR.
[17:14] <cfhowlett> modernbob sorry, but I don't have anywhere near enough knowledge to advise on ark.
[17:14] <ikonia> VaticanCameos: please don't post that sort of thing here
[17:14] <lacroixx> hi im new to the ubuntu community and ubuntu in general. i have an older computer that doesnt have a built in networking card so i use a wireless usb adapter (on windows in the past) and it worked fine. now when i installed ubuntu 12.04 lts 64 bit it wont take that usb network adapter.... i looked and have been googling for a while now and i did LS
[17:14] <lacroixx> USB and got this: ID 1668:1200 Actiontec Electronics, Inc. [hex] 802AIN Wireless N Network Adapter [Atheros AR9170+AR9101]
[17:14] <ikonia> VaticanCameos: just ubuntu support here please.
[17:14] <VaticanCameos> lol okay
[17:14] <ikonia> VaticanCameos: thanks
[17:15] <histo> modernbob: use the compression tools in nautilus
[17:15] <jay__> ok cool eeee  thanks
[17:15] <histo> modernbob: there are plenty of options, zip, gzip, 7z, rar etc...
[17:16] <eeee> jay__: sorry man
[17:16] <arun_> anybody here faced grub timeout issues
[17:16] <histo> lacroixx: pretty sure that card should work out of the box.
[17:16] <modernbob> histo: thanks
[17:16] <arun_> I cannot get to have Grub to have a timeout
[17:16] <arun_> it just boots
[17:16] <jay__> eeee: 7 minutes left. i'm excited for the results
[17:16] <lacroixx> its a usb
[17:16] <arun_> even after editing the /etc/default/grub file and doing a update-grub
[17:17] <lacroixx> network adapater from Qwest
[17:17] <eeee> jay__: oh ok i thought it stopped running!
[17:17] <eeee> cool..
[17:17] <jay__> nah it's still going :)
[17:17] <jay__> sorry for the miscommunication
[17:17] <histo> lacroixx: ahh looks like you need firmware possibly
[17:18] <lacroixx> histo: how would i go about doing that?
[17:18] <lacroixx> ID 1668:1200 Actiontec Electronics, Inc. [hex] 802AIN Wireless N Network Adapter [Atheros AR9170+AR9101]
[17:18] <histo> lacroixx: sudo dmesg -c   unplug the device then plug it in..  Then pastebin the output of dmesg
[17:19] <histo> lacroixx: nvm card should be working out of the box.
[17:19] <histo> lacroixx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link
[17:19] <jay__> omg i just realized something. that just the writing phase! it'll be a while till it can verify as well
[17:20] <jay__> i'm guessing an hour? can i message you later with the results?
[17:20] <lacroixx> lemme keep trying
[17:20] <lacroixx> hold on
[17:20] <lacroixx> ill be back
[17:20] <jay__> I'm going to watch some mythbuster and kill some time. ttyl y'all
[17:21] <WigglesMcMuffin> Hey guys, can anyone in here change an immutable page on the ubuntu wiki, I found a rather minor error and I didn't know where to suggest changes
[17:22] <apeoid> boots on sata.  I had to enter the "bios" and select the drive to boot from, although it's the only one installed.
[17:22] <apeoid> so just boot order change
[17:23] <eeee> WigglesMcMuffin: maybe try #ubuntu-dev
[17:24] <eeee> nevermind
[17:24] <WigglesMcMuffin> eeee: Thanks. Will do
[17:24] <WigglesMcMuffin> ... or not
[17:24] <eeee> the channel is empty
[17:24] <eeee> !alis
[17:25] <mettjus> i am not being able to add postgres to startup items. can anyone plz help?
[17:26] <histo> mettjus: sudo enable postgres
[17:26] <histo> defaults
[17:28] <Channel_Service> Hey
[17:29] <mettjus> histo: gives me -bash: enable: postgres: not a shell builtin
[17:30] <mettjus> histo: i'm on precise and installed postgres via apt-get install postgresql-9.3
[17:30] <histo> mettjus: sudo status postgres
[17:31] <mettjus> histo: gives Unknown job: postgres i can check status via service postgresql status
[17:31] <benedikt> I have a laptop with nvidia optimus, and I'm using bumblebee. If I suspend it and resume, I am prompted for my password. After i enter the password I just get a blank screen. Usually it works once, then I get this beaviour.
[17:31] <histo> mettjus: is it running?
[17:32] <mettjus> histo: nope
[17:34] <mettjus> histo: i tried sudo update-rc.d postgresql defaults but it says System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/postgresql already exist.
[17:34] <histo> mettjus: sudo update-rc.d postgres defaults && sudo /etc/init.d/postgres start
[17:35] <histo> mettjus: sorry been on systemd for a long time forgot what ubuntu was doing.
[17:35] <Guest49050> I have a 512GB usb disk.  I have succeeded in putting things on it.  Now, I can neither recover the things on the usb disk nor paste items from my desktop computer onto the disk.It talks of splicing error or I/O error.  How do I get around it?
[17:35] <star_prone> hi
[17:35] <histo> Guest49050: do you have another backup of the data?
[17:35] <ikonia> Guest49050: sounds like the devie is dead, or the usb port has hung
[17:36] <Guest49050> histo: I don't think so.  I had recovered the stuff from my cell phone, but ....
[17:36] <star_prone> if I have generated a public ssh key and I have used it to get access to a git repository, can I use that public key on a new laptop or do I have to generate a new one?
[17:36] <mettjus> histo: nope didn't work
[17:37] <ikonia> star_prone: you can use that public key as much as you want
[17:37] <mettjus> histo: just restarted vm and postgresql is down
[17:37] <Guest49050> ikonia: I hope it is just the usb port rather than the disk
[17:39] <histo> mettjus: did you do the update-rc.d command ?
[17:39] <wlrr> running ubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr and wanting to install virtualbox on it. The website provides an x86 .deb file for 14.04. Is it really that easy? dpkg -i debfile.deb?
[17:39] <mettjus> histo: update-rc.d postgresql defaults
[17:39] <cowbacon> wlrr: should be
[17:39] <ikonia> wlrr: use the version in the ubuntu repos
[17:39] <cowbacon> wlrr: or you can apt-get install it, but the website version is usually newer
[17:40] <ikonia> newer is not better
[17:40] <mettjus> histo: but it says System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/postgresql already exist.
[17:40] <star_prone> ikonia: thank you!
[17:40] <wlrr> cowbacon: Ah. So do I play it better if I just go through the repos? Google shows PPA's but these are older version of ubuntu.
[17:40] <wlrr> *versions
[17:41] <histo> mettjus: sudo /etc/init.d/postgres status?
[17:41] <mettjus> histo: and indeed the file /etc/init.d/postgresql exists
[17:41] <mettjus> histo: down
[17:41] <ikonia> wlrr: just use the version in the stable ubuntu repos
[17:41] <histo> mettjus: sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql start
[17:42] <pike> Is it possible to clone only 2 of 3 displays together with 14.04 ? If so, how ?
[17:42] <mettjus> histo: that started postgres
[17:42] <wlrr> ikonia: ok. wow I didn't know i just had to sudo apt-get install virtualbox. right on.
[17:42] <histo> !xrandr | pike
[17:42] <mettjus> histo: now it's online
[17:42] <mettjus> histo: but as soon as i reboot it will be down
[17:43] <pike> histo, I will read, but it is possible ? only mention I've seen of clone is all or none
[17:43] <histo> mettjus: check that the scripts are in the proper runlevels
[17:44] <mettjus> histo: dont know where they should be
[17:45] <mettjus> histo: i got postgresql in rc2 to rc5
[17:51] <Heliarc57> Is it possible to install ubuntu via pbx?
[17:53] <frogblue> 'lo I try to change the sudo editor with sudo select-editor but it keeps reverting to nano. any special trick to do under 14.04, pls?
[17:54] <frogblue> :q
[17:54] <frogblue> forget it... sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[17:54] <Paddy_NI> After a recent update the fonts in "Firefox" and "Thunderbird" look rather poor. Would anyone have any ideas about how I would rectify this?
[18:00] <apeoid> hi
[18:00] <apeoid> I'm on ubuntu now thanks
[18:00] <apeoid> pretty cool os
[18:00] <apeoid> thanks for like, making it
[18:03] <moises> como instalo netflix, quien me ayuda
[18:04] <genii> !es | moises
[18:07] <neutrino> how do i merge two folders with cp ?
[18:07] <neutrino> cp -r does it ?
[18:07] <robynata> :-D
[18:07] <neutrino> suppose i have a folder usr in home directory
[18:08] <neutrino> and want to merge its contents (inlcluding subfoldrs)
[18:08] <andrew2> Hi
[18:08] <__Eggs__> Neutrino, cp -ru , the u updates files that are newer
[18:10] <MagicSpud> hey developers which ubuntu should I install here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15853560/xc_cube.pdf
[18:10] <andrew2> The official one
[18:11] <neutrino> __Eggs__: does this happen recursively ? like the usr/sbin merges with /usr/sbin ?
[18:11] <neutrino> also what if /usr/sbin is a simlink
[18:12] <Pici> MagicSpud: That link doesn't say anything about the specs of the computer.
[18:12] <__Eggs__> Neutrino, Yeah the -r would do that.
[18:13] <__Eggs__> Neutrino, symlink wouldn't work as it would say something about a non empty target, that's if you wanted to symlink the folder and not the individual files
[18:15] <MagicSpud> Pici: chipset UX661-T Aopen Xcube 2Gb ram
[18:16] <OerHeks> MagicSpud, how about the cpu and gpu ?
[18:17] <MagicSpud> OerHeks no idea but old
[18:18] <MagicSpud> OerHeks it only had 500 Mb ram recently upgraded to two ddr 333 1Gb modules
[18:19] <mzhik> Hey all
[18:19] <mzhik> I an architecture question
[18:19] <OerHeks> MagicSpud, try Xubuntu, you can test it in live mode first
[18:20] <mzhik> why aren't ubuntu (and most other linux distros) aren't sandboxing apps like mobile os?
[18:20] <MagicSpud> OerHeks the owner of the computer succeed installing once ubuntu 12.04 but when trying to upgrade the system complained
[18:20] <MagicSpud> xubuntu then
[18:21] <mzhik> Isn't it better security?
[18:21] <MagicSpud> OerHeks would you point me the download link?
[18:21] <MagicSpud> OerHeks its 32 bits
[18:21] <OerHeks> !xubuntu
[18:22] <MagicSpud> OerHeks Xubuntu 14.04?
[18:22] <OerHeks> MagicSpud, sure, it is the latest version
[18:23] <MagicSpud> OerHeks no 64 bits?
[18:24] <MagicSpud> OerHeks okay I think I got it: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[18:28] <apeoid> chrome failed to install on ubuntu 14.04 lts
[18:28] <eeee> apeoid: error msg?
[18:28] <apeoid> should that happen?
[18:29] <apeoid> oh.  I retried and it worked.  n/m
[18:29] <gaspyr> hi, i have an issue with a driver
[18:29] <gaspyr> where can i download this :
[18:30] <gaspyr> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw
[18:30] <gaspyr> there is just description of the driver, without a download section
[18:31] <histo> gaspyr: it's been included in the kernel since 2.6.18
[18:32] <gaspyr> bear with my noob question
[18:32] <gaspyr> so how do i get my usb wifi key to work then ?
[18:33] <apeoid> yaaay I'm installing things!@  thanks for building a free OS
[18:33] <histo> gaspyr: it should work out of the box if that is your chipset.
[18:33] <apeoid> I'll use it to build a sparse distributed memory based supercomputer that will bring better AI to video games!
[18:33] <histo> gaspyr: what does lsusb say?
[18:33] <genii> gaspyr: Does lsmod | grep zd1211rw       ...show any result?
[18:33] <gaspyr> it didnt work
[18:34] <gaspyr> yea lsmod ... sows this
[18:34] <gaspyr> zd1211rw               57580  0
[18:34] <gaspyr> mac80211              546051  2 b43,zd1211rw
[18:34] <gaspyr> cfg80211              409394  3 b43,mac80211,zd1211rw
[18:34] <histo> gaspyr: okay what happens when you try to connect to a network?
[18:34] <histo> gaspyr: lspci | grep Network
[18:34] <DammitJim> why does one see tutorials where they say to put your dns-nameserver in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:34] <DammitJim> and others in /etc/resolv.conf?
[18:35] <gaspyr> it's actually disabled by hardware switch
[18:35] <gaspyr> thats what it says
[18:35] <genii> gaspyr: So the adapter is already recognized and the proper driver is loaded.
[18:35] <andrew2> Hi
[18:36] <gaspyr> just wondering, do i have to activate the wifi for it to run ?
[18:36] <andrew2> Run what ?
[18:37] <histo> DammitJim: the new way is in /etc/network/interfaces because resolv.conf now gets overwritten by resolvconf package
[18:37] <gaspyr> the wifi usb key
[18:37] <histo> gaspyr: sudo rfkill unblock all
[18:38] <histo> gaspyr: what says it's disabled?
[18:38] <andrew2> Leave Jim out of it !
[18:38] <genii> gaspyr: Please pastebin result of: rfkill list
[18:38] <gaspyr> ok
[18:38] <gaspyr> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[18:38] <gaspyr> 	Soft blocked: no
[18:38] <gaspyr> 	Hard blocked: yes
[18:38] <gaspyr> 1: phy1: Wireless LAN
[18:38] <gaspyr> 	Soft blocked: no
[18:38] <gaspyr> 	Hard blocked: no
[18:38] <genii> !pastebin
[18:39] <gaspyr> sry geni
[18:39] <andrew2> Pasrebin suxor
[18:39] <genii> gaspyr: Please try now: rfkill unblock 0
[18:39] <andrew2> Uno dos
[18:40] <andrew2> Loves men
[18:40] <bazhang> !ot | andrew2
[18:40] <noah_> Is there something you need help with, andrew2?
[18:40] <andrew2> No comment
[18:40] <gaspyr> done genii
[18:41] <DammitJim> gotta stay current!. thanks histo
[18:41] <andrew2> Big egos are play here
[18:41] <DammitJim> does one NEED to put broadcast and network?
[18:41] <andrew2> No need to attack me
[18:41] <andrew2> G w m
[18:42] <noah_> andrew2: We're not, we just want to know if theres anything you need help with bud.
[18:42] <Zerodeamon> not normally DammitJim
[18:42] <andrew2> Aereo shut down
[18:42] <andrew2> See that ?
[18:42] <andrew2> I think its bull.
[18:42] <histo> gaspyr: Why are you using the usb wireless instead of the broadcom wireless onboard?
[18:43] <gaspyr> because the wifi signal is weak
[18:43] <gaspyr> the guy who repaired my pc, cut by mistake the little cable of wifi
[18:43] <andrew2> Greedy cable TV shut it down
[18:43] <noah_> andrew2: I hate that it happened, and theres tons of people that would love to talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:44] <andrew2> Its stupid its like big cable found loop holes.
[18:44] <bazhang> thats not on topic here andrew2
[18:44] <andrew2> And won that way
[18:44] <gaspyr> histo, just wondering, a noob question, so do i have to turn wifi switch on to use the usb wifi key, right ?
[18:44] <histo> gaspyr: no
[18:44] <andrew2> Yeah the used boot leg Ubuntu to do it.
[18:45] <histo> gaspyr: the usb wifi key should be working.  You need to turn the switch on to use the builtin wireless
[18:45] <andrew2> Crazy
[18:45] <gaspyr> actually the usb wifi key still not working
[18:45] <gaspyr> it's weird
[18:45] <andrew2> Its pretty much gonna flip to be a lawsuit against Ubuntu now.
[18:46] <DammitJim> this might not be an ubuntu question, but I am setting up LAMP and for some reason my /var/www/info.php file can't be accessed with my browser
[18:46] <histo> !details | gaspyr
[18:46] <DammitJim> I know apache2 is running 'cause I can see the page when I put in the IP address
[18:46] <eeee> DammitJim: try F5
[18:47] <noah_> DammitJim: Have you checked the permissions of that file?
[18:47] <DammitJim> it needs execute?
[18:47] <bjrohan> I need help using screen in an upstart script. currently when I do the log for the script says: Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied
[18:47] <DammitJim> it's -rw-r--r--
[18:47] <apeoid> so, I should press ctrl-alt-t to do stuff?  what about that terminal window I see people using
[18:47] <eeee> DammitJim: did you try F5?
[18:47] <DammitJim> yes eeee
[18:47] <noah_> DammitJim: As long as you have access to read it should be fine. Try eeee's idea.
[18:47] <DammitJim> I did F5
[18:47] <DammitJim> but the file has never loaded
[18:48] <gaspyr> ok ubottu
[18:48] <DammitJim> using this tutorial https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu
[18:48] <DammitJim> I've done this before on Debian
[18:48] <DammitJim> not sure why it's not jiving on 14.04
[18:48] <histo> DammitJim: did you install php ?
[18:48] <DammitJim> yes
[18:49] <gaspyr> histo, can i private message you ?
[18:49] <DammitJim> interesting... the error.log says: script '/var/www/html/info.php' not found or unable to stat
[18:49] <bjrohan> Odd part is that yesterday the script ran just fine as it was, not for some reason it looks like screen isn't loaded first. Does that happen? Is there a stanza I can use to make sure screen is available first?
[18:49] <genii> gaspyr: Apologies on lag, my work is requiring me often here right now.  ... now, if you issue again: rfkill list    ...dows it show both adapters now enabled?
[18:49] <DammitJim> got it
[18:49] <DammitJim> info.php was in the wrong place
[18:49] <histo> DammitJim: dpkg -l | grep php5
[18:49] <DammitJim> thanks guys
[18:49] <histo> ahh
[18:50] <noah_> Ah, there we go. Good luck mate.
[18:50] <DammitJim> stupid human mistakes like these are what my biggest flaws are
[18:50] <histo> genii: his internel is hard blocked, he has the switch off.
[18:50] <gaspyr> it still shows the same out geni
[18:50] <gaspyr> also apologies genii, histo for disturbing you, really !
[18:50] <bprompt> DammitJim:   there are no backport fixes for that in the repositories =)
[18:51] <genii> histo: Ah, right ( had to doublecheck the paste again)
[18:51] <DammitJim> dammit!
[18:51] <DammitJim> jim
[18:51] <DammitJim> lol
[18:51] <histo> gaspyr: What do you mean by the usb adapter "isn't working"  how are you trying to configure it?
[18:51] <gaspyr> hmm hold on i will try a thing , activate the switch then see
[18:51] <eeee> DammitJim: it's not your fault, in the guide it is written sudo nano /var/www/info.php ;)
[18:51] <jay__> eeee:
[18:51] <eeee> and these things happen all the time anyways
[18:51] <gaspyr> nothing , i just inserted it
[18:52] <eeee> hey jay__
[18:52] <DammitJim> did something change from version to version?
[18:52] <jay__> my USB stick passed with no errors
[18:52] <DammitJim> I should notify the guy that wrote it
[18:52] <eeee> ok jay__
[18:52] <histo> gaspyr: you have to configure it
[18:52] <eeee> i found something online: go to the software center and change your mirror to mainserver
[18:52] <histo> gaspyr: how are you trying to join a network?
[18:52] <jay__> any other ideas eeee ?
[18:53] <eeee> jay: http://askubuntu.com/questions/487405/unable-to-install-most-major-packages-unmet-dependencies-and-cannot-be-fixed
[18:53] <catalase> ok, there are two users: user x and user y. i am user x, i also own the server. however, user y owns some files in my home directory, and i need to access them, but i recieve permission denied. how can i make it so that permissions are recursively applied to that directory so that i can access all subdirectories as they are created
[18:53] <jay__> if it's not the stick and it's not the iso, could it be the Unetbootin or LiLi USB Creator that are causing problems?
[18:53] <amitprakash> Ubuntu live cd/usb is broken
[18:54] <amitprakash> Fails to boot on my UEFI system when booted in non UEFI/CSM mode
[18:54] <agu1000> Hello. I changed my /home to use another partition, and it all worked fine for like 5 reboots. Now I installed updates, and after rebooting, my /home is back to the old one and I can't find the other partition I use for home under "Devices" in the files explorer. What should I do?
[18:55] <histo> gaspyr: you can't just plug it in and have it automagically join a network. it won't know which one to join. You have to configure it with network manager applet.
[18:55] <eeee> jay__: run in the terminal software-properties-gtk and change the server and press ok
[18:55] <eeee> jay__: ah, you have to reinstall ubuntu though
[18:56] <jay__> ok what do i need to do eeee ? reinstall ubuntu and type what?
[18:56] <raspberrypifan> i wish ubuntu still gave away free cds, when i was a freshmen i order liek 20 of them
[18:57] <histo> raspberrypifan: people still use CDs?
[18:57] <raspberrypifan> well if they sent it out on flash drives
[18:57] <catalase> histo, yes
[18:57] <raspberrypifan> but ppl in Ecuador still use typewriters
[18:57] <agu1000> I want my fucking BLU RAY now!
[18:58] <eeee> jay__: did you change the server location when you had ubuntu installed? or did you notice what server was selected?
[18:58] <jay__> eeee:  i read that article. i don't know how to change my repository serves
[18:58] <jay__> servers
[18:58]  * bprompt beams at agu1000  with a blue light
[18:58]  * Zerodeamon gives agu1000 the big blu ray of cock
[18:58] <jay__> i'm too much oh a newb sorry
[18:59] <Zerodeamon> what was that for?
[18:59] <IdleOne> Zerodeamon: for excessive bad language
[18:59] <Zerodeamon> lol excessive?
[18:59] <gaspyr> thank you genii and histo, it now works :)
[18:59] <agu1000> excessive? sorry for saying one apparently banned word
[19:00] <IdleOne> I suggest you both read the guidelines ubottu linked you two which are also linked in the channel topic.
[19:00] <bprompt> jay__:    what are you trying to do anyway?  if I can stick my beak
[19:01] <Zerodeamon> hey Idle0ne can you hel me out with a problem?
[19:01] <agu1000> I still want my freaking blu ray :'(
[19:01] <IdleOne> no
[19:01] <Zerodeamon> :(
[19:01] <apeoid> hrm how do I execute get-pip.py in terminal correctly?  says permission denied OSError
[19:02] <catalase> hi
[19:02] <histo> apeoid: pything get-pip.py
[19:02] <catalase> i have two user accounts, how can i make it so that i can access my other user account from my primary user account
[19:02] <histo> apeoid: python get-pip.py
[19:02] <apeoid> I did that
[19:02] <agu1000> Hello. I changed my /home to use another partition, and it all worked fine for like 5 reboots. Now I installed updates, and after rebooting, my /home is back to the old one and I can't find the other partition I use for home under "Devices" in the files explorer. What should I do?
[19:02] <histo> gaspyr: what did you do?
[19:02] <ikonia> agu1000: an update will not change your fstab configuration
[19:03] <histo> catalase: you mean access your other users files?
[19:03] <gaspyr> it worked histo
[19:03] <ikonia> agu1000: correct your fstab
[19:03] <gaspyr> just restarted my pc :)
[19:03] <catalase> histo, yeah
[19:03] <agu1000> ikonia: my fstab is still the same, and it used to work fine
[19:03] <histo> catalase: you cold add yourself to their group or vice versa
[19:03] <gaspyr> thank you a lot histo and genii :)
[19:03] <catalase> histo, how do i do that
[19:03] <ikonia> agu1000: your system will only mount what you tell it to
[19:04] <ikonia> agu1000: you tell it what to mount in fstab
[19:04] <ikonia> agu1000: what does fstab say to mount for home
[19:04] <agu1000> ikonia: UUID=4774387b-2bf3-4eba-9624-9deffcc3ae1d   /home    ext4          defaults       0       2
[19:04] <histo> catalase: what is the output of groups
[19:04] <agu1000> ikonia: and that is the correct UUID
[19:04] <ikonia> agu1000: is that the old or the new partition
[19:04] <apeoid> this is the error message on get-pip.py http://bpaste.net/show/429103/
[19:04] <agu1000> ikonia: the new one! so it should be fine
[19:05] <ikonia> agu1000: what does the output of mount show
[19:05] <catalase> catalase adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[19:05] <catalase> i guess i need to add them to my group then
[19:05] <catalase> err, or the other way around
[19:05] <histo> sudo usermod -a -G otherusername catalase
[19:05] <agu1000> ikonia: mount: can't find show in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[19:05] <ki7mt> apeoid, You probably need: sudo python get-pip.py as it's installing to the system first.
[19:05] <histo> oh then the other way arround the first one after the -G is the group then username
[19:05] <ikonia> agu1000: pelase pastebin the output of "mount"
[19:06] <jay__> eeee: i checked integrity and there were 0 errors this time :)
[19:06] <agu1000> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/jZvbv2B1
[19:07] <eeee> nice :)
[19:07] <hamiltont> Is there a way to say that an entry in /etc/apt/sources.list is for 64 bit only?
[19:07] <histo> agu1000: probably pastebin  sudo blkid also
[19:07] <jay__> so it should install with no problems. i might just have to change the server so i can download programs eeee
[19:07] <catalase> histo how do i undo one of those changes
[19:07] <hamiltont> I'm getting a ton of 404s for i386 not being found
[19:07] <jay__> how would i go about changing the server? and why wouldn't it give me a good server by default?
[19:07] <ikonia> agu1000: ok, so home is not in there, if you do "sudo mount -a" what do you get ?
[19:07] <histo> catalase: what do you mean?
[19:07] <agu1000> ikonia: histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7738251/
[19:08] <eeee> it should have the server for your country by default i think, unless it was having temporary problems or something
[19:08] <catalase> histo, i need to UNappend
[19:08] <agu1000> ikonia: no output
[19:08] <ikonia> agu1000: is /home mounted now ?
[19:08] <apeoid> ki7mt, thank you that was it.  I didn't know how to do that yet. :x
[19:08] <catalase> histo, i need to remove one of my users from the group
[19:08] <eeee> (i mean maybe the server was having problems that day)
[19:08] <histo> catalase: type groups as the user  to get a list then; sudo usermod -G specify,all,the,groups,besides,the,one,to,remove  username
[19:09] <jay__> oh ok. well i'm installing without the internet (ethernet) could that have something to do with it? maybe the distro is set by default to an old server when you install without the ethernet plugged in?
[19:09] <agu1000> ikonia: home is always mounted but it's the wrong one. it's not the new partition
[19:09] <ki7mt> apeoid, ok, glad it worked, but just FYI, PIP is also in the UBuntu repos, both python-pip and python3-pip
[19:09] <ikonia> agu1000: home is not mounted
[19:09] <agu1000> ikonia: right.
[19:09] <ikonia> agu1000: your output of "mount" shows it's not mounted
[19:09] <histo> ikonia: it was showing /dev/sda1 as /home
[19:09] <agu1000> yeah, sorry. the partition is not mounted as home
[19:10] <agu1000> it's using a different directory for home instead
[19:10] <ikonia> ahhh
[19:10] <ikonia> ok, now I understand
[19:10] <ikonia> sda1 has the same uuid
[19:10] <ikonia> as what's in fstab
[19:10] <histo> ikonia: plus his luks stuff also
[19:10] <ikonia> so it's mounting the correct partition
[19:10] <agu1000> ikonia: same UUID as what else?
[19:11] <agu1000> ikonia: oh, yes.
[19:11] <agu1000> because i want to mount sda1 as /home
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[19:11] <ikonia> oops
[19:11] <ikonia> sorry
[19:11] <ikonia> agu1000: so it has mounted the correct device that you told it to in /etc/fstab
[19:11] <ikonia> it's behaving correctly
[19:12] <eeee> jay__: i dont know, i dont think so it should use the main server, ill brb i have to park the car
[19:12] <agu1000> ikonia: oh i see. then why are my files not in home, and why is the sda1 volume not showing up in "Devices" like sda2 is?
[19:12] <ikonia> agu1000: I don't know what you mean by devices, so I can't answer that
[19:12] <Zerodeamon> I seem to be having a problem with this install, the top menu bar is missing...
[19:13] <histo> wow
[19:13] <DammitJim> Zerodeamon, why are you telling me that on PVT?
[19:13] <ikonia> agu1000: why the files aren't there - I don't know, I don't know what you did to your system
[19:13] <agu1000> ikonia: in ubuntu, i open "Files" and then i can see "Devices", which is pretty much /media/
[19:14] <ikonia> agu1000: thats normally external devices
[19:14] <histo> Why is ubottu so jacked up now?
[19:14] <ikonia>  /home is a system device
[19:14] <ikonia> !ping
[19:14] <ikonia> histo: looks ok ?
[19:14] <histo> He still show's factoids on search that are non existent
[19:14] <ikonia> histo: pm me an example please and I'll take a look
[19:14] <ikonia> I've not noticed so don't know
[19:14] <histo> ikonia: /msg ubottu search someterm  you will get all kinds of factoids that are long gone.
[19:15] <agu1000> ikonia: yes. i have 2 disks in this pc. sda and sdb. sdb4 has ubuntu i believe. sda1 should have /home. I can find sda2 under Devices, but not sda1. Before the update, i could see both.
[19:15] <agu1000> now i can't see sda1 under Devices and my /home doesn't have the directories i used to have
[19:15] <ikonia> agu1000: sda2 is ntfs so external to your system
[19:15] <agu1000> ikonia: yes. sda1 is ext4 and I could still see it under Devices before the update
[19:16] <ikonia> agu1000: I don't know about that,
[19:16] <ikonia> I don't know what you've done to your system
[19:16] <shlant1> anybody familiar with ssl handshake failures on 14.04?
[19:16] <ikonia> I suspect you don't have a clear picture of what's there
[19:16] <agu1000> under /media/lucas i can only see data, which is sda2. no sda1
[19:16] <ikonia> eg: "where is my data"
[19:16] <agu1000> ikonia: my data was in /home in sda1.
[19:16] <ikonia> agu1000: /media will not have sad2
[19:16] <ikonia> sorry sda1
[19:16] <agu1000> now sda1 is not there, so my home is probably using another directory i guess
[19:16] <ikonia> as it's your home partition
[19:16] <ikonia> oops
[19:16] <agu1000> unless my data got removed
[19:17] <ikonia> you don't see sda1 in /media - as it's mounted in /home
[19:17] <histo> If you mount on top of a directory all files that were there are now inaccessible
[19:18] <raspberrypifan> i am trying to access my ubuntu vm from my mac host but it wont give me access. if i did ssh localhost i get connection denied. the vm ppl told me ot come here
[19:18] <agu1000> ikonia: ok, i'll try unmounting sda1 as home, so i can see it under /media, and then i'll see if it has my files, right?
[19:18] <ikonia> agu1000: it won't just appear under /media
[19:18] <ikonia> agu1000: why do you want it under /media - it's your home directory ?
[19:18] <agu1000> ikonia: why not. yes it's my home but i wanna see if my current /home is REALLY sda1 or not really
[19:19] <agu1000> cause sda1 has other files in it
[19:19] <ikonia> agu1000: just unmount /home - then look into /home
[19:19] <agu1000> ok
[19:19] <ikonia> forget /media - that is nothing to do with /home
[19:19] <agu1000> ok. how do i unmount?
[19:19] <ikonia> umount /hoome
[19:19] <ikonia> home
[19:19] <agu1000> umount: /home: device is busy.
[19:20] <xeno_> I'm unable to make gpg --gen-key work.
[19:20] <agu1000> ikonia: umount: /home: device is busy.
[19:20] <histo> agu1000: get out of that directory first
[19:21] <ikonia> your desktop will also be locking it
[19:21] <agu1000> still busy
[19:21] <agu1000> :(
[19:21] <opus__> hey guys I installed a i386 package
[19:21] <xeno_> I am using these instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[19:21] <opus__> now my system wants to install only i386 packages!
[19:21] <ikonia> agu1000: remove / comment the line from fstab and reboot
[19:21] <opus__> any idea? i'm running 14.04
[19:21] <agu1000> ikonia: ok
[19:21] <xeno_> No matter how many times in how many ways I try it, it ends up asking over and over and over for more text and never stops doing so.
[19:22] <xeno_> I asked on the gpg group and got no response.
[19:23] <histo> xeno_: what is asking you for text?
[19:25] <tozen> > opus_ :uname -a ??
[19:26] <histo> opus__: which i386 package and how did you install it?
[19:26] <agu1000_> ikonia: i can now only login as Guest.
[19:26] <agu1000_> because i umounted /home
[19:28] <agu1000_> how do i login as root?
[19:28] <agu1000_> i can't
[19:28] <opus__> I installed  sudo apt-get install lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32stdc++6
[19:28] <opus__> my system is x86_64: Linux laptop 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:30:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:29] <opus__> Now everything is i386
[19:29] <opus__> (all new packages)
[19:29] <Zerodeamon> how do i fix the top menu?
[19:29] <jay__> is there anyway to see messages direct to you while you were away from IRC?
[19:30] <noah_> jay__: Ctrl+F search for your name?
[19:30] <agu1000> hello. i can't login as my user. only as Guest. so i can't do much
[19:30] <tharkun> jay__: /j #your_irc_client_here don't expect everyone to know every client
[19:30] <agu1000> ikonia: any ideas?
[19:30] <histo> agu1000: single user mode
[19:30] <agu1000> histo: what? how's that
[19:31] <histo> agu1000: mount your different file systems and figure out what you want where.
[19:31] <jay__> by client what do you mean ?
[19:31] <agu1000> histo: i can't because i'm only Guest.
[19:31] <Guest62339> I have two MP4 files that I can't watch How do Idiagnose the problem and how do I get it to work?
[19:31] <jay__> the program i'm using for irc?
[19:31] <histo> agu1000: from the grub menu recovery mode or whatever hipsters are calling it these days
[19:31] <tharkun> jay__: The program you are using
[19:31] <jay__> oh ok thanks
[19:31] <agu1000> histo: you think that will give me root?
[19:31] <histo> agu1000: yes
[19:32] <agu1000> ok i'll try. grub doesn't show a menu though. how would i access it?
[19:32] <jay__> ohh are you saying i should go to a channel for CIRC and ask there tharkun ?
[19:32] <tharkun> jay__: Yes :)
[19:32] <histo> agu1000: hold shift or keep pressing it
[19:32] <agu1000> ok
[19:32] <jay__> ok thanks lol
[19:32] <agu1000> brb then
[19:33] <jay__> is there an IRC channel for everything?
[19:34] <xeno_> histo:  yes it asks for text.
[19:34] <histo> xeno_: what is it?
[19:34] <xeno_> I got it to finish once when I ignored it, I wonder if that is my problem.  I just need to ignore it.
[19:34] <histo> agu1000: hold down right shift
[19:35] <noah_> jay__: Probably. :) Everyone loves to talk about everything. An Ubuntu related note though.. If your IRC client supports logs: You can use sid or grep to find your name.
[19:35] <histo> xeno_: you're just babbling
[19:35] <histo> !alis | jay__
[19:35] <jay__> thanks noah, but i don't know what grep and sid are lol i'm pretty new to linux
[19:36] <xeno_> Sorry.  Maybe I just need to be patient.  I'm using 2048 size.  Does it typically take many many minutes to generate the keys?
[19:36] <xeno_> And yes it is asking for more text again now.
[19:37] <histo> xeno_: What command are you running that it's asking your for more text?
[19:37] <xeno_> gpg --gen-key
[19:38] <jay__> i have a general question for you guys
[19:38] <xeno_> And this time, when it finished, a bunch of the text I provided in response to the apparent prompt gets scrolled out to the unwanting shell after the program finishes.
[19:38] <jay__> I will be using Linux as my main operating system. I use a computer for surfing the web, watching youtube and downloading torrents. Is there any NEED for me to learn the command terminal?
[19:39] <tharkun> jay__: yes
[19:39] <jay__> tharkun: why?
[19:39] <tharkun> < jay__> I will be using Linux as my main operating system. <-- Some stuff is only fixed through cli
[19:39] <noah_> jay__: As much as a GUI is nice, the Terminal is an extremely powerful and important part to Linux distrobutions.
[19:40] <jay__> even if i just watch video and surf reddit for example. i still need to know the terminal?
[19:40] <tharkun> jay__: The most powerfull program you will ever meet is the Terminal. If everything else fails the terminal will still be there.
[19:40] <noah_> You don't have to know absolutely everything, I mean, Google is here and all: But it's nice to be familiar.
[19:40] <jay__> why would i run into problems if all i do is use the web browser and dl torrents?
[19:41] <tharkun> jay__: No need to panic. But eventually you will learn it. Bits at a time
[19:41] <jhutchins> jay__: It can be a lot of fun to have the control the console gives you.
[19:41] <noah_> and the Terminal is fun! It's a lot more fun than it looks, I promise. Have you ever wanted to LISTEN to your hard-drive?
[19:41] <jay__> i will learn if i have to. it just seems overwhelming to learn the terminal. i don't know where to even start
[19:41] <tharkun> jay__: Because the most powerfull bittorrent that exists runs on a terminal
[19:41] <histo> jay__: for instance, you could download all your torrents in terminal, or create a script to pull your youtube videos with youtube-dl etc...
[19:41] <jhutchins> jay__: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html
[19:42] <eeee> jay__: did it work?
[19:42] <histo> jay__: http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php
[19:42] <ki7mt> jay__, We use this to teach beginners things about the terminal: http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[19:42] <tharkun> jay__: There is an old book that guides you very gently across learning what the terminal can do. It was even on the debian repos ;P
[19:42] <jay__> jesus
[19:42] <jay__> this is what i mean. so many links. so much info
[19:42] <jay__> what is important that i need?
[19:42] <noah_> jay__: Just pick one. It's not complicated. Just take us on it. ;)
[19:42] <histo> jay__: start small
[19:43] <tharkun> jay__: Don't panic, you don't need all those links mostly you've got enough man pages in your system allready installed that can blow your mind away ;P
[19:43] <histo> jay__: it's something you can do in your spare time and you will thank us in the long run.
[19:43] <BobHoppi> apt-get -help
[19:43] <BobHoppi> +sudo
[19:43] <ki7mt> TLDP is a great resource as is Mike Wiki and all,  but they aren't really geared toward those new to the terminal or Linux in general.
[19:44] <[conrad]> Hello everyone. We're looking to migrate away from LTSP to full desktops, and it seems I may not know the proper term to search for, but the initial issue I'm running into is looking for a way to keep the machines on the network "centrally and remotely managed". Meaning, I can choose when to do updates, and I won't need to run around to all the machines to do this. Also, the ability to install the same package to all the machines at once
[19:44] <[conrad]> . Landscape looks what I may want, but for $100+/machine it's not cost effective. Plus there are a lot of features Landscape provides that we wouldn't need. I've seen results that indicate puppet, foreman, and spacewalk is the alternative, but it seems those are more for managing servers, not desktops. Does anyone have any other suggestions?
[19:44] <jay__> ok. do i don't need to read a book on linux?
[19:44] <jhutchins> The DOS-Win doc is pretty out dated, nobody on MS systems uses the command line any more.
[19:44] <noah_> (Just for reference) man (as tharkun said) is short for manual. If you ever have any problems knowing what a command does or anything like that: Simply put in your terminal - "man *command*"
[19:44] <jay__> so i don't*
[19:45] <histo> jay__: no but it will help. I would try things out test the waters, and read up on the command line when you get the opportunity.
[19:45] <jay__> does terminal have a "start" point. like, can i see all commands possible and just type "man *command" one by one?
[19:45] <jhutchins> There's also apropos which will tell you if there is anything like the term you specify in the man pages.  apropos dhcp f'rinstance.
[19:45] <histo> jay__: the link I sent you http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php  seems pretty new user to me.
[19:45] <ki7mt> jay__, Not true, I just finished a cross platform build on a project that used Batch scripts to build the entire project, Python, MinGW, and FFTW
[19:45] <noah_> Sure! Just type "help"
[19:45] <histo> jay__: yeah man intro
[19:45] <noah_> Or ^
[19:46] <eeee> jay__: you can use tab completion, like type the first letter and press tab a couple times
[19:46] <Darkwell> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/millions-of-dymanic-dns-users-suffer-after-microsoft-seizes-no-ip-domains/
[19:46] <eeee> jay__: i take it ubuntu is running ? :D
[19:46] <jay__> i'll check out learning the shell
[19:46] <jay__> ubuntu is updating downstairs
[19:46] <jay__> i gotta go check on it eeee
[19:46] <jhutchins> jay__: http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html
[19:47] <jay__> histo:  can i just type intro in the terminal?
[19:47] <histo> jay__: type       man intro
[19:48] <histo> jay__: although that link I gave you is more new user friendly than man pages
[19:49] <ki7mt> histo, that's a good resource, and it's well written.
[19:49] <barz> Hi guys, Anyone here that know about  x86f-input-wacom 0.25 and Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:49] <jay__> jhutchins: what was i supposed to learn from that?
[19:49] <jay__> i read it but...
[19:49] <histo> jay__: http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php
[19:50] <jhutchins> jay__: Just for fun.
[19:50] <ki7mt> Just start from the beginning, and follow along in a terminal.
[19:50] <jay__> i have learning the shell book marked for later
[19:50] <jay__> oh ok jhesketh_
[19:51] <barz> oh well I want to conserve my xorg, because ati drivers, I don't know the xorg-xserver-input-wacom-trusty-lts will help or ruin everything
[19:51] <histo> barz: what do you mean by conserve?
[19:52] <jay__> Xubuntu is oddly designed. my mouse went away because a screen saver came on while i was downloading updates. luckily the enter button worked
[19:52] <barz> well, my old computer needs to run ati private drivers
[19:52] <jay__> it has such odd imperfections.
[19:53] <BobHoppi> did dumbassjim stop by?
[19:54]  * BobHoppi apolagizes, wrong channel
[19:54] <jhutchins> jay__: Actually, this is more relevant, an annotated version from 2004 that addresses some changes since 1999: http://garote.bdmonkeys.net/commandline/index.html
[19:55] <noah_> jay__: One of the great uses of the terminal is switching what desktop enviroment you use. So if you don't like the one that came with Xubuntu, you're free to change it. :) Along of course with your screensaver and how it behaves.
[19:55] <barz> and there is a package called xorg-xserver-trustylts
[19:56] <barz> I don't know if it modifies the xorg-xserver 1.11.3
[19:56] <DammitJim> I think something has changed with 14.04 where when one installs apache2, it sets up the path for the site to be /var/www/html instead of /var/www
[19:56] <barz> I have not tried
[19:56] <BobHoppi> no DammitJim its still /var/www
[19:57] <DammitJim> weird how my config was different
[19:57] <DammitJim> from a fresh install
[19:57] <barz> I want to make work my wacom intuos pro, and run my legacy ati drivers
[19:57] <barz> my legacy ati drivers work fine now
[19:58] <jay__> I'd like to try other desktop environments for funzies
[19:58] <jay__> I"ll take a read through that in a bit jhutchins
[19:58] <barz> I was trying to compile xf86-input-wacom-0.25 with this instructions http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=110304
[19:58] <BobHoppi> but apache questions are more of a #apache query am I wrong?
[19:59] <barz> but patch is not runing, it freezes on terminal
[20:00] <Pici> DammitJim: yes, it is now /var/www/html
[20:00] <jay__> ok im' going to mess around on my newly installed Xubuntu ttyl
[20:02] <apeoid> in apt-get what does apt stand for
[20:02] <Pici> apeoid: Advanced Package Tool
[20:02] <apeoid> right on
[20:03] <apeoid> it's nice
[20:04] <bjrohan> Can anyone help we get screen to work on an upstart script?
[20:06] <cooro> hi
[20:07] <zyan> sorry for the interuption, but whats the off-topic channel name?
[20:07] <histo> bjrohan: why are you running screen with upstart?
[20:07] <zyan> #Ubuntu off-topic I thought it was. but theres a space there.
[20:07] <Pici> zyan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:07] <zyan> oh thank you
[20:07] <apeoid> hi.  I just installed ubuntu and I'm installing software.  using the ubuntugis repository got me qgis 2.0.1 and I'd rather have 2.4.  what do?
[20:08] <Segnale007> hello
[20:08] <Segnale007> a quick question here
[20:08] <Segnale007> could anyone tell me what cinnamon software rendering mode is ?
[20:08] <histo> !info qgis
[20:08] <histo> apeoid: look for a ppa that has your versoin or build from source
[20:09] <sezen> does anybody know a better gui interface than gvim for vim?
[20:09] <gooberfoob> Is anyone available to help me ?
[20:09] <sezen> i d like to
[20:09] <sezen> just ask your question
[20:10] <gooberfoob> Well, I have 2 issues. I just installed Debian.
[20:10] <BobHoppi> #debian
[20:10] <apeoid> ok, your second issue?
[20:10] <gooberfoob> When installing I got a mirror archive error
[20:10] <apeoid> hahahahahaha
[20:10] <barz> haha I returned form debian
[20:11] <gooberfoob> I installed debian without a archive mirror, so what should I do ?
[20:11] <kostkon> !debian | gooberfoob
[20:11] <kostkon> hmm
[20:11] <ovrflw0x> i've got gnome 3.12.2 - when i maximize/unmaximize window, the min/max/close buttons of window gets "blacked out" i have to move my mouse cursor on it to see those buttons again. How to fix this? I've Radeon HD5650 discrete card
[20:11] <kostkon> gooberfoob, this is an ubutnu support channel.
[20:12] <BobHoppi> ubuntu*
[20:12] <Segnale007>  anyone knows what cinnamon software rendering mode is ?
[20:15] <geirha> sezen: gvim can be one of three different guis for vim ...
[20:15] <ovrflw0x> i've got gnome 3.12.2 - when i maximize/unmaximize window, the min/max/close buttons of window gets "blacked out" i have to move my mouse cursor on it to see those buttons again. How to fix this? I've Radeon HD5650 discrete card
[20:15] <sezen> geirha, what are the others?
[20:16] <geirha> sezen: to name the others, I'd need to know which you're currently using :p
[20:16] <sezen> i m using gvim for educational purpose
[20:16] <geirha> seanh: apt-cache rdepends vim-gui-common
[20:17] <geirha> seanh, sezen: oops, mixup ^
[20:18] <mettjus> is it possible to automatically confirm ufw enable? something like the -y option
[20:18] <jack-> $ aptitude why libssl0.9.8:i386
[20:18] <jack-> i   google-earth-stable Hängt ab von ia32-libs
[20:18] <jack-> why the heck...
[20:18] <ovrflw0x> i've got gnome 3.12.2 - when i maximize/unmaximize window, the min/max/close buttons of window gets "blacked out" i have to move my mouse cursor on it to see those buttons again. How to fix this? I've Radeon HD5650 discrete card
[20:19] <leonze> Whataguoin
[20:19] <leonze> Is this place pooing?
[20:19] <leonze> No one is on
[20:20] <ovrflw0x> hey leonze
[20:20] <leonze> yo
[20:20] <ovrflw0x> yo dawg wat cookin' in da hut leonze
[20:20] <leonze> chillin. doin some homework
[20:21] <leonze> so, do people here not say anything?
[20:21] <BobHoppi> eewww leonze dont remind me i got to do that today too...
[20:21] <ovrflw0x> dunno man
[20:21] <leonze> i've never really IRC'd
[20:22] <tnt> Is there any reasy that doing an apt-get update of a package keeps erasing the /etc/xxx dir that's part of that package ? In the package it's a directory, but I locally replaced it with a symlink to a config dir on another partition and after an update, the symlink is erased and replaced by an empty directory ...
[20:22] <leonze> BobHoppi DOIT DOIT DOIT
[20:22] <OerHeks> !ot | leonze ovrflw0x
[20:22] <ovrflw0x> i've got gnome 3.12.2 - when i maximize/unmaximize window, the min/max/close buttons of window gets "blacked out" i have to move my mouse cursor on it to see those buttons again. How to fix this? I've Radeon HD5650 discrete card
[20:22] <leonze> whoops! sorry
[20:22] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, ^^
[20:22] <PaulePanter> Hi. How do I find the bug report in Launchpad after I run `ubuntu-bug /var/crash/_usr….crash`?
[20:22] <hexacode> anyone know any virtual usb solution for ubuntu? i want to write a program that pretends to be a keyboard or a mouse
[20:22] <BobHoppi> leonze -_- this is the ubuntu support chan you might be looking for offtopic
[20:23] <MagicSpud> how to find out which applications run as root?
[20:23] <leonze> actually, I can no longer connect my HDMI port working on my laptop
[20:23] <Pici> MagicSpud: In what context?  The ones currently running as root?
[20:23] <bjrohan> histo: sorry for the delay. My upstart script starts a minecraft server, that once running takes commands, would like it to run in screen so that I can access it.
[20:24] <leonze> I pulled it out while it was on......... prolly bad idea........... and it won't even recognize my external monitor
[20:24] <MagicSpud> Pici its a client application and I dont remember the installation process...I am fearing now it was installed as root and therefore it has root privileges
[20:24] <MagicSpud> Pici over the system
[20:24] <bprompt> hexacode:    what do you mean by "virtual usb solution"?
[20:25] <BobHoppi> sounds like a vm thing
[20:25] <BobHoppi> like esx
[20:25] <PaulePanter> MagicSpud: ps -U root -u root u
[20:25] <Loshki> bjrohan: off the top of my head, can you just start it via screen from rc.local instead of via upstart?
[20:26] <PaulePanter> MagicSpud: Straight from the examples in `man ps`!
[20:26] <mettjus> is it possible to automatically confirm ufw enable? something like the -y option?
[20:26] <PaulePanter> MagicSpud: ps aux and look at the first column.
[20:26] <bjrohan> Loshki: would starting it on rc.local give me access to the running server?
[20:26] <Loshki> mettjus: ufw status doesn't do it?
[20:27] <mettjus> Loshki: ufw status shows the current status
[20:27] <bjrohan> Loshki: Duh, yes it would. why not use upstart?
[20:27] <mettjus> i need to enable it without manual confirmation
[20:27] <sleepee> hello everybody.  does anybody own an intel 7260 wifi card and experience drops in connection??
[20:28] <Loshki> bjrohan: I'm thinking that if you start it inside screen e.g. screen minecraft <args> then you can use screen re-attach later
[20:29] <bjrohan> Loshki: yep, but why not in upstart vs rc.local? Wouldn't it be cleaner in upstart vs anything else I may need to put in rc.local in the future?
[20:30] <Loshki> mettjus: odd, mine doesn't ask for confirmation. Are you running it under sudo?
[20:31] <Loshki> bjrohan: you can put it where you like, but if you put it in the upstart script, you risk it being overwritten if you update/reinstall minecraft, and you have to edit the upstart script, which is gnarly
[20:31] <mettjus> Loshki: yes sudo
[20:31] <bjrohan> Loshki: Gotcha
[20:32] <mettjus> Loshki: mine says Command may disrupt existing ssh connections. Proceed with operation (y|n)?
[20:32] <Loshki> mettjus: ah, so does mine. One moment please...
[20:32] <mettjus> Loshki: i solved by ufw --force enable
[20:32] <Loshki> mettjus: exactly what I was looking for!
[20:33] <mettjus> but its not in man…
[20:33] <mettjus> i mean couldnt find documentation about it
[20:34] <ovrflw0x> i've got gnome 3.12.2 - when i maximize/unmaximize window, the min/max/close buttons of window gets "blacked out" i have to move my mouse cursor on it to see those buttons again. How to fix this? I've Radeon HD5650 discrete card
[20:34] <bjrohan> Loshki: When I put it in rc.local, where would any error log be?
[20:35] <Loshki> sleepee: first hit on google talks about 7260 wifi card drops: https://communities.intel.com/thread/47983. Dunno if it helps...
[20:36] <MagicSpud> PaulePanter: that command...does it show all root applications?
[20:36] <Loshki> bjrohan: probably best to invoke it something like:- screen <cmd> <args> >> /tmp/error.log 2>&1
[20:37] <PaulePanter> MagicSpud: Run `man ps`
[20:37] <kmyst> i've got a weird problem: my bios is set to local time, ntp udates the time/date correctly, but if the system ever goes down (like power loss) when i boot back up the login screen is in UTC time....anybody ever notice this?
[20:37] <MagicSpud> PaulPanter okay thanks
[20:38] <PaulePanter> MagicSpud: Quote: To see every process running as root (real & effective ID) in user format:
[20:38] <Loshki> MagicSpud: but yes, afaik, it shows every process. See also ps axf which I find useful
[20:39] <bjrohan> Loshki: does rc.local allow for respawn?
[20:40] <Loshki> mettjus: actually, my ufw man page mentions ufw --force enable explicitly for exactly this problem.
[20:40] <obscene> How to rice
[20:40] <Loshki> bjrohan: I don't think so. Does minecraft need respawning?
[20:41] <bjrohan> Not typically
[20:42] <Loshki> bjrohan: if it does, you can call a shell script from rc.local which loops, restarting minecraft if it dies. Not pretty though...
[20:42] <MagicSpud> what kworkers are?
[20:42] <MagicSpud> root      4432  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    22:32   0:00 [kworker/u:0]
[20:43] <ovrflw0x> i've got gnome 3.12.2 - when i maximize/unmaximize window, the min/max/close buttons of window gets "blacked out" i have to move my mouse cursor on it to see those buttons again. How to fix this? I've Radeon HD5650 discrete card
[20:44] <Loshki> MagicSpud: kernel worker threads. http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[20:44] <Loshki> Boy I'm on a roll today...
[20:44] <kmyst> nobody's seen a weird time problem?
[20:45] <Loshki> kmyst: no, more keywords please...
[20:45] <agu1000> Hello. I updated ubuntu and now my /home (which i mounted to another volume) is now different (doesn't have the files I put there). what can I do?
[20:46] <kmyst> Loshki: bios set to local time, ntp updates correctly, system goes down from power failure, upon boot the login screen and also if you drop to a virtual console date/time reports as UTC but local timezone.  login in and ntp updates and all is well
[20:46] <squid22> @agu1000 all I can say is "uffffff" what did you do?
[20:46] <kmyst> Loshki: i.e. that's whacked
[20:47] <agu1000> squid22: i just clicked on "Yes" in the update prompt for ubuntu
[20:47] <agu1000> and then rebooted, squid22
[20:47] <squid22> that shouldn't had deleted or removed any files in your home dir
[20:48] <genii> agu1000: Was the volume /home was mounted to a filesystem compatible with linux permissions?
[20:48] <squid22> @agu1000 You can try the following using root. (simply type sudo su -  and enter your user password)
[20:48] <agu1000> genii: ext4
[20:48] <agu1000> genii: yes, i think so. what do you mean?
[20:48] <mdanielk> hello
[20:49] <genii> agu1000: Yes, ext4 is fine.
[20:49] <squid22> @agu1000 then try this "find / -type f -iname "<enter name of a file you had here>"
[20:49] <Ihads3xwithHolst> Hey Holstein baby
[20:49] <Ihads3xwithHolst> Wanna have some fun?
[20:49] <Ihads3xwithHolst> !Sex
[20:49] <squid22> fuck off
[20:49] <Guest92043> I need to convert a video that I can't watch ... any counsels?  It says it's in MP4
[20:50] <kmyst> Loshki: oh and for what it's worth after said power failure bios still has the correct date/time so for some unknown reason ubuntu decides to switch to UTC.
[20:50] <agu1000> squid22: doesn't find anything
[20:51] <Loshki> kmyst: ok, that's weird & I'm out of my depth. Keep asking, maybe someone else knows...
[20:51] <squid22> can you tell me the name of a file partially?
[20:51] <squid22> I want to make the command more specific..
[20:51] <Guest92043> squid22: You talking to me?
[20:51] <agu1000> squid22: catkin_ws is a directory i had at /home/catkin_ws
[20:51] <squid22> ok
[20:51] <agu1000> oops, /home/lucas/catkin_ws
[20:51] <agu1000> (my home)
[20:52] <agentx0r> Hi folks. I'm trying to install the updates that the Software Updater presented to me, but I'm getting the following error, could someone kindly help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7738692/
[20:52] <agu1000> so it was ~/catkin_ws
[20:52] <kmyst> Loshki: hehehe it's a very strange issue but I can reproduce it repeatedly, just started happening like within the last few weeks....nobody seems to have an idea :)
[20:52] <squid22> try this: "find / -type d -iname "catkin*"
[20:52] <squid22> make sure catkin* is in quotes ""
[20:52] <agu1000> squid22: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7738701/
[20:53] <agu1000> squid22: it only finds other files, not in home.
[20:53] <agu1000> squid22: my /home is mounted to another partition. i think it might not be mounting correctly. how can i read the directories in sda1?
[20:53] <squid22> hmmmm I see...
[20:53] <Loshki> kmyst: yeah, wish I knew more about these things. Can you change the bios battery (grasps at straw)...
[20:53] <squid22> @agu1000 no catkin stuff under home
[20:53] <Andrew_Steve> hello
[20:54] <agu1000> my /home is sda1. but i think it's not really working, squid22. How can I see sda1 as a directory?
[20:54] <HadS3xwithPICI> Hey baby
[20:54] <HadS3xwithPICI> Wanna have fun?
[20:54] <agu1000> HadS3xwithPICI: hi baby
[20:54] <HadS3xwithAGU> agu1000: When you get off work boi?
[20:54] <squid22> dude don't fall for that shit...that's how you get your box pwned
[20:55] <agu1000> squid22: LOL
[20:55] <squid22> try: sudo mount | column -t
[20:55] <squid22> it should tell you where is mounted
[20:55] <kmyst> Loshki: thought of that but battery seems good since no settings are lost but since it's a laptop i'm not even going to attempt that..something in ubuntu (at least my install) is borked causing that problem
[20:55] <agu1000> squid22: anyway. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7738712/
[20:56] <agu1000> squid22: it says it's on /home. but i doubt it cause it doesn't have the files it used to have
[20:56] <mettjus> anybody can help me add postgresql to ubuntu startup services?
[20:56] <squid22> yea..I see /home mounted in sad1
[20:56] <squid22> sda1
[20:57] <agu1000> squid22: i see /home/lost+found ... what is that?
[20:57] <Loshki> kmyst: Dunno where to refer you, but I think this class of bug is best dealt with in forums rather than irc...
[20:58] <squid22> @agu1000: lost+found is the directory in which fsck (filesystem check) will put files it restores from orphaned blocks. This can happen when something corrupts filesystem meta-blocks (also called i-nodes) in which the references of the blocks are stored which contain the data of a file.
[20:58] <agu1000> squid22: maybe my files went there? idk. why does a system update cause all this?
[20:59] <Loshki> agu1000: system updates are difficult, everyone's system is slightly different, no way to test them all...
[20:59] <kmyst> Loshki: aye probably so, just banking on somebody else having that problem
[21:00] <Loshki> kmyst: it's kind of a specialist area, that close to boot time...
[21:00] <agu1000> Loshki: it deletes my /home files? i even have them in a different partition to avoid loss :P
[21:00] <ki7mt> squid22, he also had /home on a separate partition to begin with, then remounted with when asking / discussing this earlier with ikonia
[21:00] <kmyst> Loshki: yup
[21:01] <squid22> @agu1000 I have been using Linux distros (Debian Based) including Ubuntu for a very long time and i have never seen that problem
[21:01] <squid22> @agu1000 Did you read what @Ki7mt said? Is that true?
[21:01] <agu1000> squid22: ok, i'll try booting a liveCD and reading sda1 to see if it has my files.
[21:02] <Loshki> agu1000: of course it's not *supposed* to delete your /home files. But accidents happen. The smart money does full backups, especially just before an upgrade
[21:02] <agu1000> yeah i see
[21:02] <ronin2> if I write a command with space before the actual line, is it possible to track those commands (those are not put in the command history)
[21:02] <Loshki> agu1000: yes, boot the live cd, then we can poke around and see what's where. Do you know about pastebin?
[21:03] <Loshki> ronin2: I just tried, and they go in *my* history, space or not...
[21:03] <squid22> @ronin2 by doing that they won't show on the "history" command log but if you have a keylogger that's another story ;)
[21:05] <Loshki> Er, I don't do anything special, they're just there:   524   ls
[21:05] <squid22> try double spaces
[21:05] <squid22> @Loshki I just tried it and it worked for me
[21:06] <Loshki> squid22: nope. I'm running bash version 4.2.25(1). You?
[21:07] <squid22> 4.3.11(1)
[21:07] <Loshki> Ah, it's configurable (of course). See HISTCONTROL/ignorespace in the man page...
[21:08] <agu1000> so in my liveCD i can access sda1, but I cannot unencrypt my home folder inside of it. How can I do that?
[21:09] <squid22> true...there you go
[21:09] <ronin2> Loshki: do you have HISTCONTROL=ignoredups:ignorespace in .bashrc
[21:09] <agu1000> squid22: what could i do to read my "lucas" encrypted directory in sda1 from a LiveCD?
[21:10] <Laibsch> There's an annoying thing since trusty.  Whereas in previous releases a click on the scroll-bar resulted in one page scroll up or down nowadays it jumps to the relative position where you click (clicking in the top 10% will bring you to the top 10% of the document).  How to go back to the old behaviour, please?
[21:11] <squid22> @agu1000: Try that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[21:11] <Loshki> ronin2: no, I don't, which presumably explains why I see them in my history file, and others don't. Mystery solved, I hope...
[21:11] <squid22> it shows you how to recover stuff from encrypted file syste,
[21:11] <squid22> **syste,
[21:11] <squid22> **system
[21:12] <Loshki> 3rd time's a charm...
[21:12] <ki7mt> That was not brought up previously either, if it was I missed it (env /home that is ).
[21:13] <squid22> I wan to share one of my favorite sites with all of you: www.commandlinefu.com
[21:13] <ki7mt> s/env home/encrypted /home/g
[21:13] <squid22> I am sure some of you will thank me later.
[21:15] <ki7mt> I get hits on it now and again, always seems usefull.
[21:15] <Loshki> what is "lucas" encryption, when I google it I get guys named lucas talking about their disks...
[21:15] <agu1000> squid22:
[21:15] <agu1000> sudo: encryptfs-recover-private: command not found
[21:15] <squid22> @agu1000 you have to apt-get install it
[21:15] <Loshki> agu1000: install it, just like on a regular system...
[21:16] <squid22> @agu1000 sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils
[21:17] <agu1000> Loshki: squid22: ecryptfs-utils is already the newest version.
[21:17] <ki7mt> Loshki, its LUCas actually, it's an encryption sequence for cryptology.
[21:17] <squid22> @agu1000 You have to start where it says: Recovering Your Data Manually
[21:18] <squid22> @agu1000 scroll down
[21:18] <lucas--> squid22: ok.
[21:19] <Loshki> It's ecrypt, not eNcrypt, btw...
[21:19] <Loshki> ki7mt: thanks
[21:20] <lucas--> squid22: mount: unknown filesystem type 'encryptfs'
[21:21] <squid22> @Lucas did you do tried with the "-t"
[21:21] <lucas--> yes
[21:21] <squid22> that specifies the type
[21:21] <lucas--> I did.
[21:22] <Loshki> Hmm. Missing some encrypted file libraries?
[21:22] <lucas--> squid22: i got mount: unknown filesystem type 'encryptfs'
[21:23] <Loshki> lucas--: because, for the 2nd time, there is no N. And why did you change your nick in the middle of being helped?
[21:23] <squid22> lol
[21:24] <lucas--> Loshki: oh LOL
[21:24] <Loshki> Apparently I'm the only one irritated by all this...
[21:24] <lucas--> Loshki: hahah
[21:25] <Loshki> lucas--: laugh while you can, boy. You don't have your filesystem back yet...
[21:26] <squid22> lmao!
[21:26] <lucas--> squid22: hmm, i'm getting this: WARNING: Based on the contents of [/root/.ecryptfs/sig-cache.txt], it looks like you have never mounted with this key  before. This could mean that you have typed your  passphrase wrong.
[21:27] <Loshki> lucas--: you are *sure* about your passphrase, right?
[21:27] <squid22> I was going to ask that too
[21:27] <lucas--> Loshki: no. I only set up a password for my user. no more than that.
[21:27] <lucas--> i never "backed up" my passphrase
[21:27] <squid22> opps
[21:28] <lucas--> This is why windows works better. Lack of "security" is the most important feature to have.
[21:28] <vaiolin> Hello, using a old Sony Vaio VGN-FJ270, installed Skype fine, but builtin webcam shows no video, how can I get it working?
[21:28] <squid22> @Lucas lol go ahead and re-install Windows 7/8
[21:29] <lucas--> I thought encryption was done in a reasonable way :P
[21:29] <squid22> @Lucas I'm sure you would love it :D
[21:29] <lucas--> squid22: i have it in dual boot. i'll just disable home encryption cause it's useless
[21:29] <ki7mt> lucas--, it's only useless if you dont know how to use it.
[21:29] <codephobic> hi, anybody tried using Compass (sass) to watch a folder shared over samba, on ubuntu 14.04?
[21:29] <squid22> I have dual boot also...with Windows 7
[21:30] <lucas--> ki7mt: i know how to use it, but it's still very annoying to use
[21:30] <codephobic> I'm having a permissions problem with a ruby file (sass/util.rb), giving me a "operation not permitted" EPERM error, when I try "Compass watch htdocs"
[21:31] <ki7mt> lucas--, have read this thread for the past two hours+, you may want to get a refresher on CLI and Basic enc usage then.
[21:31] <Loshki> codephobic: see also #ruby
[21:31] <lucas--> squid22: does this mean the update removed my encryption keys?
[21:32] <codephobic> Loshki, thanks will ask there too - just figured given the layers involved, this place might be my best shot
[21:32] <codephobic> :)
[21:32] <squid22> perhaps d(0_o)b
[21:32] <ki7mt> lucas--, Previously, you did not mention that your orig /home was encrypted, nor was it on a seperate partition, then you remounted yet said nothing of encryption then either.
[21:33] <lucas--> ki7mt: i did say it was on a separate partition. i didn't think encryption was important, nor did i remember i activated it.
[21:33] <lucas--> But it seems encryption doesn't even let me see what files are inside?
[21:34] <squid22> @agu1000 That's encryption doing its job!
[21:34] <ki7mt> lucas--, yes you told ikonia it was open a separate partition but not squid22 who was trying to help you now. While they may seem minor to you, they are major components inf the recovery effort, if it's even possible at this point.
[21:35] <lucas--> ki7mt: yes, i didn't notice of encryption. i thought squid22 read when i said it was another partition.
[21:35] <lucas--> Ok, i'm going to reboot now and try from inside my ubuntu again.
[21:36] <Loshki> agu1000 has better communication skills lucas-- ...
[21:36] <lucas--> Loshki: LOL
[21:36] <ki7mt> At this point, it's unknown where the original /home partition even is.
[21:37] <lucas--> ki7mt: it is in sda1
[21:37] <ki7mt> Or I should say "was"
[21:38] <lucas--> ki7mt: yes. it should be in sda1 unless the system update moved/deleted it
[21:38] <lucas--> ki7mt: any idea where my passphrase might be saved?
[21:39] <ki7mt> LOL yeah, in your thoughts somewhere maybe, unless you wrote it down, which is not wise.
[21:40] <lucas--> ki7mt: i didn't even see it. isn't it supposed to be the same as my user password? i never made one
[21:41] <squid22> hi @Lucas I am afraid that doesn't get saved anywhere. The reason why is because otherwise it would be a security threat. Hence what what would be the purpose of encryption?
[21:41] <ki7mt> lucas--, Even is there was a file that had your enc PW, it's encrypted too, and you can't access it as you dont know what the PW is, kinda of a Pandora's box wouldn't you say ?
[21:41] <lucas--> squid22: can't i get encryption only using my ACTUAL user password instead???
[21:42] <lucas--> ki7mt: yeah, that's why i think that encryption system is annoying :)
[21:42] <squid22> @lucas Do you mean that your password is the same as the passphrase?
[21:42] <ki7mt> lucas--, really shouldn't blame the system for doing it's job properly.
[21:42] <lucas--> squid22: i mean that it should be so i can actually access my data in the future
[21:43] <Loshki> lucas--: I think you should keep your nose out of other people's encrypted data...
[21:43] <lucas--> ki7mt: how else are you supposed to decrypt the data?
[21:43] <lucas--> how does ubuntu know the passphrase if the file where it's saved is encrypted anyway??
[21:44] <squid22> @lucas I think Linux, specially Ubuntu does a very good job with encryption. Are you trying to access somebody else's data here?
[21:44] <lucas--> when I login, how does ubuntu decrypt my folder if I didn't input the passphrase?
[21:44] <lucas--> no. it's my home folder
[21:44] <lucas--> that i can't access even though i know my user's password
[21:45] <ki7mt> lucas--, With a pass-phrase or passkey, neither of which you seems to have or have access too.
[21:45] <lumps> If I've setup my "ip=" boot params for my network device, is there any reason why "fetch=" doesn't reach out to my webserver?
[21:45] <Loshki> lucas--: A user's password and their passphrase are two different things, and should be kept different (and apart).
[21:45] <lucas--> ki7mt: how does ubuntu access the data then?
[21:45] <squid22> @lucas the way is simple. I think Ubuntu uses symmetrical encryption basically uses the same key to encrypt and decrypt the data. If you happen to forget or lose that key, recovery of the data is extremely hard
[21:45] <lucas--> ki7mt: if ubuntu has that passkey, then i should be able to find it, right?
[21:45] <|PuNKCaT|> can someone help me find and uninstall a package which has utterly borked my machine please?
[21:46] <lucas--> squid22: that means ubuntu is storing the key somewhere?
[21:46] <Loshki> lucas--: no, it's hashed, which means that though you can recognise it when you see it, you can't retrieve it...
[21:46] <GerardauTaquet> hello lads
[21:46] <ki7mt> lucas--, No, it's not the systems fault you can't remember it, it's doing it's job, keep you out without the proper credentials.
[21:46] <wheatthin> |PuNKCaT|, Umm was it a ppa?
[21:46] <lucas--> Loshki: but ubuntu can, right? otherwise it wouldn't be able to read the data
[21:46] <Loshki> lucas--: or we'd all be at it, decrypting other people's data
[21:47] <lucas--> ki7mt: yes but I am the actual user that encrypted it, and i did not tell ubuntu to forget the passphrase
[21:47] <|PuNKCaT|> I don't know the name fully, was a java 7 with iced tea, I'm hoping if someone can tell me how to search I can kill it - it's destroyed firefox, pakagemanager etc
[21:47] <ki7mt> lucas--, Sorry, but nobody here is going to help you hack an encrypted system, that's not what this channel is for.
[21:47] <lucas--> Loshki: so how did ubuntu let me in before without me knowing the passphrase?
[21:47] <wheatthin> lucas, it's not ubuntu's fault you couldn't remember it lol
[21:47] <lucas--> wheatthin: remember what? ubuntu never showed me any passphrase
[21:48] <lucas--> i didn't even input any passphrase
[21:48] <ianorlin> I recommend a safe deposit box to put hard disk encyption key
[21:48] <Loshki> lucas--: I have no idea. Maybe agu1000 did it...
[21:48] <wheatthin> it shouldn't show you any..
[21:48] <lucas--> Loshki: haha
[21:48] <wheatthin> you have to enter it
[21:48] <lucas--> wheatthin: it never asked for a passphrase
[21:48] <wheatthin> when you go to encrypt it during install, it does.
[21:48] <lucas--> unless i input my password (user password)
[21:48] <squid22> @lucas I have a question for you! If you lose your keys to your car, Should your car be able to remember it or get you an spare one if you don't?
[21:48] <lucas--> oh then i input my user password
[21:48] <lucas--> cause i never input a different one
[21:49] <lucas--> squid22: how could i access my car if i never had the key?
[21:49] <wheatthin> lucas--, remote unlock/start :P
[21:49] <lucas--> squid22: it's like a car letting you in without any key and suddently telling you: now you need a key.
[21:49] <ianorlin> how would whole disk encryption work without a key?
[21:50] <lucas--> squid22: i don't get why ubuntu was letting me write/read data without asking for my passphrase every time then?
[21:50] <Loshki> lucas--: so your password and you passphrase just happen to be identical. Not a great idea, but ok. Does it work?
[21:50] <lucas--> Loshki: i guess they were identical then. i thought the passphrase was like a hash. it's not?
[21:50] <lucas--> i thought passphrase = the hashed keys ubuntu told me to save and I didn't want to
[21:51] <Loshki> lucas--: it's not clear to me you've done enough reading to use the terminology correctly. Doesn
[21:51] <lucas--> yes. i haven't. i'm a user of ubuntu.
[21:51] <Loshki> Doesn't matter. Either you know the passphrase or you don't. If you don't, it;s virtually impossible to break...
[21:52] <lucas--> Loshki: then i guess my passphrase is my user's password (which i do know)
[21:52] <squid22> @lucas I have been doing reading and it looks like Ubuntu will give you three options: 1) log in automatically 2)require a password to log in 3)require a password to log in and decrypt your home directory
[21:52] <wheatthin> yup, and if that's so, then you might wanna re-think about installing, and writing down the passphrase
[21:52] <Loshki> lucas--: there's one very easy way to find out...
[21:52] <lucas--> squid22: i think i had 3
[21:52] <jordan4ibanez> halp. Docky crashes when I open quassel
[21:52] <lucas--> Loshki: what's that.
[21:53] <Ben64> or not do encryption, i see so many people come in here unable to access their data
[21:53] <squid22> @lucas I think he is going to say re-install
[21:53] <Loshki> lucas--: see if the disk decrypts using the passphrase...
[21:53] <apeoid> I just re-installed and it was GREAT
[21:53] <lucas--> Ben64: that's because encryption by default sucks... they should do it differently
[21:53] <|PuNKCaT|> I tried apt list installed and got nothing
[21:53] <Ben64> lucas--: how does it suck?
[21:53] <squid22> lol...here we go again
[21:53] <lucas--> Loshki: idk if i'm getting an error because of the passphrase or because of something else
[21:54] <Loshki> "encryption by default" shouldn't happen at all, IMNSHO
[21:54] <lucas--> Ben64: because it locks you out even if you're the legitimate owner
[21:54] <ki7mt> Can you say, Round -- 3 :-)
[21:54] <Ben64> lucas--: if you don't know the passphrase, that make sense
[21:54] <lucas--> Ben64: it'd be so easy to just let you in with the right user password.
[21:54] <Loshki> lucas--: and the exact text of the error is...
[21:54] <apeoid> I installed linux at least 12 times to get where I'm at today.
[21:54] <|PuNKCaT|> will dpkg --get-selections work?
[21:55] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: work for...?
[21:55] <squid22> @lucas you are dealing with a computer, it doesn't know if you are the legitimate owner unless you prove it to her with the encryption key
[21:55] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: just test it? :)
[21:55] <|PuNKCaT|> I installed a java thing with iced tea, it's crashed firefox, package manager etc, I don't know the full file name, i'm trying to find and uninstall via terminal
[21:55] <aaa801> im trying to setup a dns forwarder with bind9, ive setup the forward in named.conf.options and restarted bind9, but im getting query refused when i attempt a lookup on my local pc
[21:56] <|PuNKCaT|> and I don't want to destroy anything further by typing in something stupid
[21:56] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: "dpkg -l | grep java" see if you find it, although theres no way it crashed firefox and other stuff
[21:56] <president> Из России с любовью
[21:56] <squid22> @lucas I think I might had found your solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/238047/how-do-i-mount-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-another-ubuntu-machine
[21:57] <squid22> @president kak dela moi drugg
[21:57] <|PuNKCaT|> trust me, it's stuffed it somehow
[21:57] <president> squid22: А что на Русском не пишешь?
[21:57] <k1l_> !ru | president
[21:58] <squid22> lol
[21:58] <lucas--> Loshki: squid22: Error mounting eCryptfs: [-2] No such file or directory
[21:58] <|PuNKCaT|> because that's /all/ I've done, and I can't find or remove it, I can't get to a webpage to d/l the trusty tahr and do a clean install, I am kinda at the point I'm gonan give up and install windows
[21:58] <squid22> enough to defend myself @president
[21:59] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: so what are you running now
[21:59] <|PuNKCaT|> trust tahr
[21:59] <Ben64> why would you need to download it again?
[21:59] <|PuNKCaT|> was /trying/ to fix a sound issue
[21:59] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: The official download page is www.ubuntu.com
[21:59] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: by installing java?
[22:00] <president> squid22: А тут переводчика нету?
[22:00] <|PuNKCaT|> because it was d/led over the internet, to do a clean install I'd need to burn it to a cd or something wouldn't I?
[22:00] <|PuNKCaT|> bekks firefox won't run
[22:00] <president> squid22: Одни иностранцы
[22:00] <Loshki> lucas--: that isn't a passphrase problem. One of your argument is wrong. Did you ever decide where your encrypted home was?
[22:00] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: you can use any other browser too
[22:00] <|PuNKCaT|> package manager won't run
[22:00] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Define "wont run".
[22:00] <|PuNKCaT|> I don't have any other browser installed
[22:00] <|PuNKCaT|> it crashes
[22:01] <squid22> @president: Нет, нет переводчика настоящее
[22:01] <lucas--> Loshki: yes, i know where it is. it's in sda1, as i told you
[22:01] <|PuNKCaT|> won't even strt up, just get a crash message
[22:01] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: run "firefox" from the terminal
[22:01] <|PuNKCaT|> how?
[22:01] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: And _which_ message do you get?
[22:01] <squid22> @lucas You are using a live CD right?
[22:01] <Loshki> lucas--: we seem to be going round in circles. I need a break, ok?
[22:01] <lucas--> squid22: yes i am
[22:01] <|PuNKCaT|> sorry this thing has crashed send a whatsit to the ubuntu thing,
[22:01] <squid22> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[22:01] <lucas--> Loshki: sure. my home is in sda1. that's it. it's not more complex
[22:01] <president> squid22: Мы тут вдвоём Русские?
[22:01] <squid22> Number 7 or Section 7
[22:02] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Which is worthless being in this IRC channel.
[22:02] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: open a terminal. type "firefox", report back here what's going on
[22:02] <squid22> it should work
[22:02] <president> squid22: Нехера не понимаю что не слово то загадка
[22:02] <Ben64> president, squid22: #ubuntu-ru
[22:02] <|PuNKCaT|> (process:6777): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed Bus error (core dumped)
[22:02] <squid22> @president: нет, я кубинец просто мало знают русский
[22:03] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Is that the full output or just one line amongst other?
[22:03] <|PuNKCaT|> thats full ourput
[22:03] <squid22> @Ben64, sorry
[22:03] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: So does "sudo apt-get update" kind of "work"?
[22:04] <linux_> s
[22:04] <president> squid22: Тут можно создать свою группу или комнату?
[22:04] <squid22> lucas whats the status?
[22:04] <|PuNKCaT|> yes that worked
[22:04] <|PuNKCaT|> it didn't update anything though
[22:05] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: It updates the package lists.
[22:05] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: You can now run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" which should continue without errors.
[22:05] <squid22> @president: Я не уверен, что я могу создать собственную группу. Они хотят, чтобы изгнать вас из чата, потому что они хотят, чтобы вы говорят на английском языке
[22:06] <|PuNKCaT|> yes, 0 installed 0 upgraded
[22:06] <Ben64> |PuNKCaT|: what is the output of "ls -la ~ | grep -v $USER"
[22:06] <squid22> if you have dependencies issues try "apt-get -f install"
[22:06] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: So what did you install using iced tea?
[22:06] <lucas--> squid22: even after i access the data, i'd need to re-mount it properly on my ubuntu. why did ubuntu forget the passphrase or something? i don't get it
[22:06] <|PuNKCaT|> total 264
[22:07] <|PuNKCaT|> drwxr-xr-x  5 root root  4096 Jun 26 19:23 ..
[22:07] <tgm4883> installed 14.04 on a macbook pro 5,1, boots to garbled screen ( I think hanging during plymouth ), thoughts?
[22:07] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Thats not an answer to my question actually :)
[22:07] <|PuNKCaT|> I installed iced tea, and a java 7 package
[22:07] <squid22> @president sposiba
[22:07] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: _Which_ package?
[22:07] <|PuNKCaT|> I don't know the name of it
[22:07] <aaa801> blarg, freking bind9
[22:08] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: What did you expect that package to do then?
[22:08] <squid22> president asked me to tell you guys that he send you guys a kiss from Russia
[22:09] <|PuNKCaT|> I was told I needed to install Java so a friend could remote access my machine and fix my sound card problems - trusted friend who does this as a job, but after reboot, nothing works
[22:09] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Which doesnt answer my question, either :)
[22:09] <|PuNKCaT|> the package was java7 and iced tea was the web side part of it
[22:10] <squid22> DON'T INSTALL JAVA DUDE!
[22:10] <|PuNKCaT|> was a package which installed it rather than figuring out sun
[22:10] <bekks> squid22: stop that nonsense please
[22:10] <|PuNKCaT|> too late squid :/
[22:10] <squid22> JAVA SUCKS!
[22:10] <OerHeks> |PuNKCaT|, aftger install any java, see the java docs howto select the java you want
[22:10] <|PuNKCaT|> indutably, I was intending to uninstall as soon as the issue was fixed
[22:10] <OerHeks> !java
[22:11] <|PuNKCaT|> I can't view webpages, firefox is borked
[22:11] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Then start "firefox -P" and create a new profile
[22:12] <Viking667> Is there an easy way to upgrade a system from x86 (i386) to x86_64 in-place?
[22:12] <bekks> Viking667: No.
[22:12] <Ben64> Viking667: impossible
[22:13] <Viking667> okay, why?
[22:13] <bekks> Viking667: Because it is far more complex than just reinstalling x86_64
[22:13] <Viking667> ... go ahead...
[22:13] <|PuNKCaT|> that didn't work either
[22:14] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Define "didnt work".
[22:14] <bekks> Viking667: Thats the main reason.
[22:14] <tgm4883> on one had, I like people that want to know why something works/doesn't work. On the other hand....
[22:14] <|PuNKCaT|> I don't know, because the terminal shrunk up so I couldn't get to the error output, but it came up with the same crash report can't run send a report dialouge
[22:14] <Viking667> didn't see the reason, just a statement that "it's far more complex"
[22:14] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: "...when doing what?"
[22:15] <|PuNKCaT|> trying to firefox -P
[22:15] <OerHeks> Viking667, you canb try upgrading all packages by hand, as there is no tool to do this, it takes 48 hours or more :P
[22:15] <bekks> Viking667: Complexity can be considered a reason when asking "is there an easy way?"
[22:15] <|PuNKCaT|> seriously, is there some way to just clean install?
[22:15] <Viking667> bekks: my apologies. I forgot that.
[22:15] <|PuNKCaT|> because this has been a total nightmare
[22:15] <tgm4883> Viking667: you've got to replace every arch-dependent package that exists on the system, then replace any symlinks or other references to the locations of the items. Or you could install a fresh 64-bit version and keep your home dir
[22:16] <Viking667> tgm4883: mrm. I'm on 14.04 now.
[22:16] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Sure, you need an ISO and you need to burn it onto a dvd or create an usb stick with it.
[22:16] <Viking667> And I'm most certainly having gnome-shell issues.
[22:16] <|PuNKCaT|> :/
[22:16] <tgm4883> Viking667: so? How does that exclude you from reinstalling to a 64-bit system
[22:16] <|PuNKCaT|> I don't think my machine will boot from a usb
[22:17] <Viking667> It doesn't.
[22:17] <tgm4883> Viking667: unless you are going to a 64-bit system because you think that is the reason gnome shell isn't working....
[22:17] <Viking667> I was looking for an in-place upgrade, but it seems that you're saying it's more trouble than its worth.
[22:17] <Viking667> bah. I've got to go.
[22:17] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: do you have a 32 or 64bit system?
[22:17] <|PuNKCaT|> 32
[22:17] <|PuNKCaT|> it's a really old (like 5-6yrs) macghine
[22:18] <|PuNKCaT|> and the onboard sound has been an issue from day one
[22:19] <|PuNKCaT|> but when I got the machine it already had 12.4 installed, and this is an upgrade over a cloned copy of that, so i'm wondering if despite fixes being run etc, if it's just needing a clean slate
[22:19] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: you can run "wget http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/utopic-desktop-i386.iso" to d/l the ISO and "sudo apt-get install brasero" to install brasero, a cd burning application.
[22:19] <|PuNKCaT|> don't have any writable cds
[22:20] <|PuNKCaT|> and don't think the dvd drive even works
[22:20] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Then you need to get one.
[22:21] <|PuNKCaT|> that wget is the trusty tahr?
[22:21] <aaa801> *twitch*
[22:21] <aaa801> anyone know what this changed to /etc/bind/named.conf:14: unknown option 'allow-recursion'
[22:21] <|PuNKCaT|> because I could try d/ling it to a usb and then seeing if I can get someone else to burn it for me
[22:22] <buzuli> Which file does DASH source when run in non-login mode?
[22:22] <bekks> |PuNKCaT|: Sorry, it was the wrong ISO. USe this one: "wget http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/trusty/daily-live/20140702/trusty-desktop-i386.iso"
[22:23] <buzuli> I cannot get my Tomcat service to source the appropriate configuration
[22:25] <Betanas> Evening
[22:25] <Viking667> huh? It's morning here.
[22:25] <Viking667> ... of the next day.
[22:26] <Betanas> LOL well damn how's the future looking
[22:26] <|PuNKCaT|> thank you
[22:26] <Viking667> seems to be fine, though cold here.
[22:26] <Betanas> that sucks
[22:26] <Viking667> about 35 F or 2 C
[22:26] <|PuNKCaT|> you in nz too viking?
[22:27] <daftykins> you're all very welcome to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic but please keep it support only in here, as per topic!
[22:28] <Laibsch> There's an annoying thing since trusty.  Whereas in previous releases a click on the scroll-bar resulted in one page scroll up or down nowadays it jumps to the relative position where you click (clicking in the top 10% will bring you to the top 10% of the document).  How to go back to the old behaviour, please?
[22:28] <lucas--> Hello. after updating ubuntu and rebooting, my files in my encrypted folder are no longer there. Any idea where to find them?
[22:29] <Laibsch> lucas--: ecryptfs-mount-private
[22:30] <lucas--> Laibsch: i did that. the /tmp/ecryptfs.5K1S6l25 also does NOT have my data.
[22:30] <Laibsch> OK
[22:30] <Laibsch> what did you do to update?
[22:30] <Laibsch> are you sure the data is still there?  df
[22:30] <lucas--> I clicked on "OK" when the ubuntu update prompt asked me to update and reboot
[22:30] <lucas--> it's the automatic updates thing
[22:31] <lucas--> Laibsch: i have no idea. my desktop background is here, and the "template" home directories are here too. the ones i put there are not.
[22:31] <Laibsch> is this an encrypted home folder or another folder?
[22:31] <lucas--> Laibsch: also, my chrome history was deleted too
[22:31] <lucas--> Laibsch: my home, which was encrypted, yes
[22:31] <tonyt> is it possible to give xchat a black back ground with white text?
[22:32] <ki7mt> lucas--, dont forget to tell them about the partitions, and re-mountiung /home this time around.
[22:32] <kriskropd> windwo 30
[22:33] <lucas--> So my /home is mounted from sda1. that's it. my home is also encrypted. when i run sudo ecryptfs-recover-private, and i go into the tmp directory that gives me, I ALSO DON'T SEE my files.
[22:34] <Laibsch> lucas--: pastebin the output of "df -h"
[22:34] <ki7mt> lucas--, You should clarify that, you do not see the original files that was in /home, but you can no longer find the original /home nor the files
[22:35] <lucas--> Laibsch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7739131/
[22:35] <lucas--> ki7mt: what do you mean i can't find the /home? it's here. I just can't find the files i put in it.
[22:36] <Laibsch> lucas--: your home is only 1.2G
[22:36] <lucas--> Laibsch: it seems like /home/lucas/.Private has the same data as sda1, which suggests sda1 is actually mounted into /home just fine. and my files must be in .Private. however, i don't see them
[22:36] <Laibsch> is that to be expected?
[22:36] <ki7mt> Well I think it'as kind of rude to not tell the whole story when some of the best folks in this channel have tried to help you.
[22:36] <lucas--> Laibsch: yes, i think so. it's only those files
[22:37] <lucas--> ki7mt: i think this was the whole story. i wanna keep it concise so it's easier to read and understand.
[22:37] <bjrohan> Where do I put a startup script for a local user?
[22:39] <ki7mt> lucas--, not from where Im sitting, been here all afternoon reading the same thing.
[22:39] <lucas--> ki7mt: what am i missing in the story then? i might not realize
[22:40] <jay__> how do i try out a new desktop environment properly?
[22:40] <daftykins> install it
[22:40] <jay__> ok. after installing it, how do you get to it?
[22:40] <ki7mt> lucas--, You shoudl went through this with squid22 and Loshi .. do you not remember that or maybe you dont remember the same series of quesiton with iknonia
[22:40] <wheatthin> jay__, through the login menu
[22:40] <ki7mt> .. should remember .. you went . .. ..
[22:41] <wheatthin> select the lil gear like thingy in the lightdm and select the desktop environment
[22:41] <lucas--> ki7mt: yes i did. but now i realized it's about permissions, not about mount points, right?
[22:42] <Laibsch> lucas--: pastebin the output of "mount"
[22:42] <ki7mt> lucas--, permissions, mount points, remounted mount points, forgotten passphrases,
[22:43] <lucas--> Laibsch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7739153/
[22:44] <lucas--> ki7mt: there are no forgotten passphrases. i was confused. and i did say that i mounted /home in sda1. should i also say that I did it AFTER installing ubuntu? (thus i had to remount)
[22:45] <ki7mt> lucas--, Im dont with this one.
[22:45] <ki7mt> whhops, done with.
[22:45] <jay__> wheatthin,  i tried that once, and it told me it couldn't find the desktop environment
[22:45] <jay__> it was name cairo i believe
[22:45] <lucas--> ki7mt: sure. good luck. thanks (:
[22:46] <k1l_> jay__: there is no cairo desktop. do you mean the cairo dock?
[22:47] <lucas--> Laibsch: it seems to me that my files are in .Private, but after ecryptfs-recover-private, the tmp folder doesn't show them. it seems like the tmp folder given to me by ecryptfs-recover-private, also has the .Private dir inside of it, with my encrypted files yet again encrypted.
[22:47] <jay__> yes dock sorry
[22:47] <k1l_> well, start it
[22:48] <jay__> i thought it was a desktop environment
[22:48] <k1l_> nope
[22:48] <jay__> hmmm it was in the list from the log in screen though k1l_
[22:49] <wheatthin> was it the userlist you were seeing?
[22:49] <jay__> no. the userlist was me and a guest account
[22:49] <jay__> this was the gear looking icon
[22:49] <k1l_> are you sure it was cairo?
[22:49] <jay__> i'm on xubuntu. i don't know if that helps
[22:50] <jay__> yes i'm sure
[22:50] <wheatthin> jay__, can you login using the default session?
[22:50] <wheatthin> ok..
[22:50] <jay__> pretty sure at least lol could always be wrong of course
[22:51] <lucas--> ls says my home has 4.1 MB inside, but df -h says it has 1.2GB. where is my data???
[22:51] <jay__> i think i am the default? i set it to auto login during the install
[22:51] <wheatthin> then open the terminal and type   cairo-dock &
[22:51] <jay__> oh, i reinstalled Xubuntuwheatthin
[22:51] <jay__> it's not on here anymore
[22:51] <Laibsch> lucas--: "for dir in /home/lucas/home/lucas/.Private /tmp/ecryptfs.5K1S6l25 ;do echo $dir;ls -l $dir|head -n5;done" <- pastebin
[22:51] <k1l_> jay__: ok, so what is your actual issue?
[22:52] <jay__> while trying to uninstall it, i messed things up so bad my screen was black cause i did it through the package manager and i don't know what i'm doing
[22:52] <jay__> so that's why i asked the PROPER way to use a desktop environment so i don't do that again
[22:52] <jay__> issues is, how do i use a DE properly
[22:52] <lucas--> Laibsch: ls: cannot access /home/lucas/home/lucas/.Private: No such file or directory /tmp/ecryptfs.5K1S6l25
[22:52] <k1l_> cairo-dock (know known as glx dock) is not a desktop enviroment.
[22:52] <lucas--> Laibsch: did you mean /home/lucas/.Private ?
[22:53] <k1l_> *now
[22:53] <jay__> oh. do i can't use cario dock
[22:53] <jay__> so i can't use cario dock?
[22:53] <Laibsch> lucas--: "for dir in /home/lucas /home/lucas/.Private /tmp/ecryptfs.5K1S6l25 ;do echo $dir;ls -l $dir|head -n5;done" <- pastebin
[22:53] <k1l_> jay__: desktop enviroments are gnome, xfce, lxde, unity, kde,...
[22:53] <Laibsch> missing space
[22:53] <jay__> i thought there were tones of DE's?
[22:53] <jay__> i have tried all of those yet though
[22:54] <lucas--> Laibsch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7739202/
[22:54] <jay__> haven't* jesus i can't type
[22:54] <k1l_> jay__: cairo dock is  just a launcher. its a 3rd party launcher for gnome for example
[22:54] <lucas--> Laibsch: i had a directory called catkin_ws and others right in /home/lucas. now they're not there.
[22:54] <jay__> oh. so it probably didn't work cause i don't have gnome installed  huh?
[22:54] <larrypg> jay__, you might be thinking of themes such as how the desktop looks not a de
[22:55] <jay__> yes. i want to see the different fun ways you can display a desktop
[22:55] <Laibsch> lucas--: "for dir in /home/lucas /home/lucas/.Private/ /tmp/ecryptfs.5K1S6l25 ;do echo $dir;ls -l $dir|head -n5;done" <- pastebin
[22:56] <k1l_> !desktops | jay__
[22:56] <Laibsch> lucas--: missing / and please include the output for the dir in /tmp
[22:56] <jay__> ok k1l_  so what is it that i want? not a DE?
[22:56] <lucas--> Laibsch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7739208/
[22:56] <lucas--> Laibsch: what do u mean missing / ?
[22:57] <jay__> that dock thing was neat. what is that considered? how do i get more neat stuff to try like that
[22:57] <k1l_> jay__: i dont know what you want. you told you had cairo dock installed some time ago that broke a lot. and i dont know what you want now
[22:57] <lucas--> Laibsch: ls /tmp/ -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7739212/
[22:57] <jay__> i want to try things like cario dock
[22:57] <jay__> but i don't know what they're called
[22:57] <larrypg> jay__, not postive but xfce-look.org has themes for xubuntu
[22:58] <k1l_> jay__: well, then go onto the internet and search for deksopt pics and find one you like and see what the are running there
[22:59] <jay__> http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Conky+Blue+Rain?content=165874&PHPSESSID=02024256280df57a8d8028c623f42dca I like this!
[22:59] <jay__> what are these called? de's? dock's? themes?
[22:59] <lucas--> Laibsch: (there are two ecryptfs dirs in tmp because i decrypted twice)
[23:00] <k1l_> its xubuntu as de. but its includes conky for the other stuff
[23:00] <k1l_> !conky | jay__ read this
[23:00] <jay__> !conky
[23:00] <jay__> i don't see anything k1l_
[23:00] <k1l_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[23:01] <Laibsch> lucas--: have a look through "shopt -s dotglob;du -sx ~|sort -n;shopt -u dotglob" and see if you can pastebin that
[23:01] <jay__> k1l_, is conky a theme?
[23:01] <k1l_> no
[23:02] <jay__> what is it?
[23:02] <Laibsch> lucas--: do you know the name of a missing file?
[23:02] <larrypg> jay__, be aware that a full conky setup can be rather difficult and time consuming
[23:02] <k1l_> its a program to display stuff on your desktop
[23:02] <jay__> ok i like that idea
[23:02] <jay__> i want a program on my desktop to tell me stuff
[23:02] <k1l_> you see the weather and  the other infos in that screenshot? that is conky
[23:02] <k1l_> jay__: then go and get to know conky
[23:02] <jay__> what about the dock at the bottom k1l_
[23:02] <jay__> i want that thing too
[23:03] <jay__> i'll read the link you sent me after supper
[23:03] <k1l_> jay__: yes, they removed the old xubuntu dock in 14.04
[23:04] <k1l_> jay__: then see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8865/what-docks-are-available?rq=1
[23:04] <jay__> oh ok. thanks guys!
[23:04] <jay__> :)
[23:04] <larrypg> jay__, you can also add another panel (dock) to the bottom if you want to
[23:04] <lucas--> Laibsch: one missing directory is "catkin_ws" which was in /home/lucas/catkin_ws
[23:05] <lucas--> Laibsch: the .Private dir seems to be 1.2GB big. how come there are no big files when i decrypt that?
[23:05] <Laibsch> lucas--: I gave you the last command so that we can find that out
[23:05] <Laibsch> lucas--: "find ~ -name catkin\*"
[23:05] <lucas--> oh ok
[23:07] <lucas--> Laibsch: du: cannot read directory ‘/home/lucas/.cache/dconf’: Permission denied
[23:07] <RuNnNy> Where do I put config files that I want to affect all users on a machine?
[23:07] <RuNnNy> for vim, zsh, tmux etc...
[23:07] <lucas--> Laibsch: find returned nothing.
[23:07] <RuNnNy> Like somekind of global dotfiles
[23:08] <Laibsch> lucas--: what users owns ~/.cache/dconf ? and what are the permissions?
[23:09] <lucas--> Laibsch: drw------ root root
[23:10] <Laibsch> "sudo chown -R ~/.cache/dconf"
[23:10] <Laibsch> lucas--: log in and out and see if that gets you anywhere
[23:10] <Laibsch> should be interesting to see the output of the command I gave you
[23:10] <lucas--> Laibsch: chown: missing operand after ‘/home/lucas/.cache/dconf’
[23:10] <Laibsch> lucas--: have a look through "shopt -s dotglob;sudo du -sx ~|sort -n;shopt -u dotglob" and see if you can pastebin that
[23:11] <Laibsch> "sudo chown lucas -R ~/.cache/dconf"
[23:11] <Laibsch> or even
[23:11] <Laibsch> "sudo chown lucas.luas -R ~/.cache/dconf"
[23:11] <Laibsch> "sudo chown lucas.lucas -R ~/.cache/dconf"
[23:11] <lucas--> Laibsch: it just outputs: 158268	/home/lucas
[23:11] <Laibsch> oh, right
[23:11] <lucas--> Laibsch: that last one worked.
[23:11] <Laibsch> lucas--: have a look through "shopt -s dotglob;sudo du -sx ~/*|sort -n;shopt -u dotglob" and see if you can pastebin that
[23:12] <lucas--> shoudl i log out now?
[23:12] <Laibsch> that should be better ;-)
[23:12] <lucas--> ok
[23:12] <Laibsch> details
[23:13] <lucas--> Laibsch: http://pastebin.com/CQR1k3WG
[23:13] <Laibsch> lucas--: "sudo find ~ -user root"
[23:14] <lucas--> Laibsch: it seems like .Private has different size there than in df
[23:14] <lucas--> Laibsch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7739267/
[23:14] <mgodzilla> hello.  ubuntu 14.04 install on a dell precision 360 tower.  dual boot w/ win 7.  ubuntu install seemed to go okay.  when trying to reboot after install, client hangs.
[23:15] <lucas--> Laibsch: df keeps giving: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7739268/
[23:15] <mgodzilla> when booting back into ubuntu, i get pass the login prompt, but the screen turns black.
[23:15] <mgodzilla> help?
[23:17] <bjrohan> can anyone help me get a n upstart script to be able to run screen before I run the script? I am having issues getting this to happen
[23:18] <Laibsch> lucas--: the unencrypted data amounts to a little over 100 MB.  From that it looks like you lost the data.
[23:18] <lucas--> Laibsch: but .Private seems to be 1.2GB...
[23:18] <Laibsch> let's have a look at that now
[23:19] <Laibsch> lucas--: have a look through "shopt -s dotglob;sudo du -sx ~/.Private/*|sort -n;shopt -u dotglob" and see if you can pastebin that
[23:20] <lucas--> Laibsch: http://pastebin.com/iX33g9Wi
[23:20] <Laibsch> that's also only about 100 MB
[23:21] <Laibsch> 150 maybe
[23:21] <lucas--> Laibsch: then why does df say otherwise?
[23:21] <Laibsch> no idea
[23:21] <Laibsch> you might recover the data with undelete
[23:22] <Laibsch> the 1.2G might also be the amount reserved for root
[23:22] <lucas--> Laibsch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7739297/
[23:22] <Laibsch> filesystem level
[23:22] <lucas--> Laibsch: /home/lucas/.Private            289G  1.2G
[23:23] <lucas--> Laibsch: the data seems to be there according to df -h
[23:23] <Laibsch> not necessarily
[23:24] <lucas--> Laibsch: would the 1.2G be garbage?
[23:26] <Laibsch> lucas--: just a wild guess, but read the manpage and look for the -m switch
[23:26] <Laibsch> that might explain it
[23:26] <lucas--> Laibsch: the switch for what command?
[23:26] <Laibsch> "Specify the percentage of the filesystem blocks reserved for the super-user."
[23:27] <Laibsch> man mke2fs
[23:27] <Laibsch> sounds low in your case, less than 1%
[23:27] <Laibsch> in any case, the data does not seem to be there
[23:27] <Laibsch> anymore
[23:28] <Laibsch> e2undel might be able to undelete it if it was deleted
[23:28] <lucas--> Laibsch: i'm using only 1% of the space i have, yes. it's a new system
[23:28] <Laibsch> but it might make things worse
[23:28] <lucas--> just a few days
[23:28] <Laibsch> it looks pretty bad
[23:28] <lucas--> what should I do? the data seems to be there... :/
[23:28] <Laibsch> once again: no
[23:28] <Laibsch> it's NOT there
[23:28] <lucas--> why are they saying it's there then?
[23:28] <Laibsch> from what I can see here
[23:28] <lucas--> it's like "deleted files" data?
[23:29] <Laibsch> I gave you two possible explanations above
[23:29] <Laibsch> or wild guesses
[23:29] <lucas--> so the update did rm ~ ?
[23:29] <Laibsch> no, you seem to have a number of issues with your system
[23:30] <Laibsch> including the permissions problems
[23:30] <Laibsch> remember that ki7mt reminded you about those?
[23:31] <Laibsch> There's an annoying thing since trusty.  Whereas in previous releases a click on the scroll-bar resulted in one page scroll up or down nowadays it jumps to the relative position where you click (clicking in the top 10% will bring you to the top 10% of the document).  How to go back to the old behaviour, please?
[23:32] <larrypg> lucas--, I know that 1000 people lived in my house because someone told me so...everything else says that only 10 people live there...I know that what everyone else is telling me is wong because the one said that it is true
[23:33] <lucas--> larrypg: the question is why would they lie?
[23:33] <lucas--> their lie is consistent with the data i had there.
[23:34] <lucas--> Laibsch: i didn't have any permissions issues. ki7mt didn't say that at all. it was something else
[23:34] <Laibsch> OK, you seem to have issues with reality
[23:35] <Laibsch> (07:42:27) ki7mt: lucas--, permissions, mount points, remounted mount points, forgotten passphrases,
[23:35] <Laibsch> for you to remember
[23:35] <lucas--> Laibsch: yes that's something else.
[23:35] <Laibsch> and you pastebin'd a couple of files with incorrect permissions
[23:35] <Laibsch> yes, of course
[23:35] <lucas--> Laibsch: maybe the update change the permissions. i have no idea.
[23:35] <Laibsch> and I need to do something else now, too
[23:35] <Laibsch> sorry
[23:35] <Laibsch> best of luck
[23:36] <lucas--> Laibsch: anyway, when running testdisk, i can find the files in the disk! they might be "deleted" files.
[23:36] <lumps> Does ubunt netboot require any kernel params beyond "boot=live ip=:::::: and fetch=http:///...../fs.squashfs"?
[23:36] <Laibsch> like I said, e2undel might recover your files
[23:36] <Laibsch> no idea
[23:36] <lumps> ever heard any talk about it in here?
[23:38] <lucas--> Laibsch: thanks :)
[23:38] <Laibsch> yw
[23:38] <Laibsch> if testdisk already displays your files then why not recover them?
[23:38]  * Laibsch hasn't used that program
[23:56] <jay__> hey guys. is it normal that my pc was frozen when i came back after about an hour? it was just sitting there with the web browser open. is this a regular thing in linux?
[23:56] <wrongplace> how do I kill an app via terminal? gui is unresponsive
[23:56] <jay__> i would assume not but you know. thought i'd ask
[23:56] <wrongplace> warzone<<
[23:57] <jay__> by frozen i mean i couldn't do a single thing. not even move the mouse. i had to hard reset it