[04:13] hey valorie [04:42] Riddell: No time for Kubuntu really until Friday. [07:58] hola chicos [07:59] getting greener http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html [08:19] shadeslayer: looks alright. Does boot & shutdown work correctly? with plymouth comming up on boot and shut down? [08:20] apachelogger: can I put a release script into the releaseme rewrite branch like the old branch had in it? or is that not the way any more? [08:22] soee: sounds like kglobalacceld not starting [08:23] shadeslayer: are we talking about shortcuts ? [08:23] soee: yes [08:23] soee: ps aux | grep kglobalaccel5 [08:24] shadeslayer: please let me switch to neon session, 2 minutes [08:24] I thought you were using regular packages [08:24] shadeslayer: no, there were to many problems last time i tried them [08:27] like? [08:27] would be nice if you reported them [08:27] since I'm exclusively using neon right now [08:27] shadeslayer: using on utopic right ? [08:28] how did the upgrade go for you from trusty ? [08:32] I am on trusty [08:32] there is no neon for utopic [08:33] Riddell: what's the script supposed to contain? [08:35] shadeslayer: im a bit confused, i know thers no neon for utopic :) thouogh i thought there ar enopackages for trusty atm [08:35] I'm quite confused now :P [08:35] trusty -> use neon; utopic -> use next ppa [08:36] ^^ [08:37] apachelogger: in my case some comments saying "bump versions", then some comments to tar up kde/workspace and the other bits I need and save the tags [08:38] soee: so what are you running, neon or next ppa [08:38] shadeslayer: i have neon installed on trusty atm [08:39] Riddell: for now, yeah, I'll have a look [08:39] maybe we can add it to the regular nonense [09:09] yofel, " since I don't understand how device management could be affected by systemd vs logind" [09:09] Could you explain [09:13] Noskcaj: if you mean upower, not really. I know that kde has some systemd sanity checks all over the place, but didn't really see anything relevant for the upower parts. [09:13] And I'm not going to invest any more time in this until we have a definite decision on the init system 14.10 will use [09:15] \o [09:16] ok [09:16] I'm not sure anyone knows that bit. [09:18] Noskcaj: FWIW, since things *do* work with upower if configured properly I would say we're fine with 0.99 if you need it. And if we keep upstart we should be able to force it to work anyway [09:20] shadeslayer: ok so get it clear (for me) is it possible to install plasma-next on trusty without neon ? [09:21] no [09:21] the kubuntu next packages are only for utopic [09:21] and neon is only for trusty [09:22] shadeslayer: so [10:24] I thought you were using regular packages [09:22] you are talking about utopic here ? [09:22] yes [09:22] that explains all :) [09:27] what version utopic uses now? some beta ? [09:43] soee: yep [09:48] shadeslayer: do you have any serious issues with this version ? [09:48] soee: I haven't used it [09:48] so can't say [10:06] yofel, that's great. I'm just waiting on the desktop team and lubuntu. Sorry for the late reply. [10:08] yofel: so it's still broken with upstart but you think we'll work out how to fix it? [10:19] apachelogger: am I doing something wrong or is releaseme broken? http://paste.kde.org/pzxkqwqav [10:21] apachelogger: or do I need to set "i18n trunk branch" in projects.kde.org ? [10:22] (that's used for the code branch as well as the i18n branch right?) [10:22] Riddell: should be doable if we really need to [10:23] hope so! [10:25] apachelogger: ./tarme.rb --origin trunk --version $VERSION baloo this seems to not get any l10n, looks for kde-kdelibs which doesn't exist [10:29] ./tarme.rb --origin trunk --version $VERSION baloo-widgets similarly likes to get svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/l10n-kf5/cy/messages/kde-kdelibs/baloowidgets.po [10:29] hmm, probably because it's in the kdelibs group on projects.kde.org [10:29] but I want translations from kde-workspace [10:31] ah but of course the l10n scripts don't know that either so there are no translations for it [10:33] eh [10:33] Riddell: wrong parent project on projects.kde? [10:33] I thought it was supposed to be workspace xD [10:34] there's a bit of a mess there [10:34] Riddell: and yes, the trunk branch must be set on projects.kde.org [10:36] 'Morning folks [10:38] there are already packages for 5.0.0 in plasma-next https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/next ? [10:38] apachelogger: yeah but it got moved back because that broke KDE SC releases. so seems a problem with KDE intrastructure rather than releaseme [10:38] hi BluesKaj [10:38] and so it begins.. [10:38] hey soee [10:38] soee: yes, frameworks 5.0.0 which is out on monday [10:38] ;o [10:42] kf5 dev files? [10:49] apachelogger: this still crashing, do you know why? ./tarme.rb --origin trunk --version 0.3.98 oxygen-fonts [10:49] Riddell: looking [10:50] p = Project.new(project_element.attribute('identifier').to_s) [10:50] :O [10:50] fails to resolve [10:51] wut [10:52] Riddell: because it's still in kdereview [10:52] maybe that should be moved out of there, given that final is in 2 weeks :S [10:53] wibble [10:53] * Riddell files a ticket [10:53] Riddell: I can do a temprorary fix if you want [10:54] if I remember how to use xml smartly again [10:55] apachelogger: I've filed a ticket so a very hacky workaround is all that's needed [10:55] guess Kf5 was the wrong assumption [10:58] Riddell: oh wait, I think I can't [10:59] the assumption that there should be a module is made all over the place [10:59] Riddell: I think you'd best roll the tar manually [10:59] doesn't need l10n and stuff anyway [10:59] hm [10:59] unless [11:03] nagh [11:03] Riddell: best do it manually [11:03] I'd have to change all classes to ignore missing module/components [11:07] yeah don't worry [11:07] de nada [11:09] apachelogger: new problemo [11:10] apachelogger: I just did ./tarme.rb --origin trunk --version $VERSION kwin [11:10] in po/de/CMakeLists.txt it sets GETTEXT_PROCESS_PO_FILES(de ALL INSTALL_DESTINATION ${LOCALE_INSTALL_DIR} ${_po_files}) [11:10] that should be GETTEXT_PROCESS_PO_FILES(fr ALL INSTALL_DESTINATION ${LOCALE_INSTALL_DIR} PO_FILES ${_po_files}) [11:10] with the "PO_FILES" [11:10] else it won't do anything [11:11] ah [11:11] pft [11:11] looks easy to fix though [11:12] Riddell: fixed [11:13] awooga [11:41] Riddell: do i need to add some dependent ppa when using plasma-next ppa ? [11:51] also package plasma-desktop is on hold http://paste.ubuntu.com/7741606/ ? [12:23] ping :) [12:27] On trusty: [12:27] 69 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 14 to remove and 9 not upgraded. [12:28] The following packages will be REMOVED: [12:28] akonadiconsole kaddressbook kde-baseapps-bin kdebase-bin kdepasswd [12:28] kdepim-dbg kdepimlibs-dbg kleopatra kmail knotes konqueror kubuntu-desktop [12:28] libksieveui4 rekonq [12:28] The following packages have been kept back: [12:28] kde-config-pimactivity libkdgantt2-0 libkleo4 libkopete4 libkpgp4 [12:28] libmailimporter4 libnoteshared4 libsendlater4 plasma-scriptengine-javascript [12:28] that doesn't seem good. [12:28] Could someone investigate as I'm headed out. [12:30] trusty -> unicorn upgrade, added plasma-next ppa, dist-upgrade -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7741719/ [13:23] someone can take a look ? [13:24] soee: what happens when you apt-get install plasma-desktop? [13:25] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7741927/ [13:28] soee: yep so that's what I'd expect, we don't have a meta package for plasma 5 stuff yet so you'll need to just work out what needs to be installed yourself and install it [13:29] I should probably bump that up my todo [13:29] :/ [13:30] ScottK: can't say I've seen that on my machine [13:31] sgclark: looking like you make good progress http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html [13:32] Riddell: been busy haha [13:35] Did everything get copied to updates? [13:37] sgclark: ping [13:37] shadeslayer: pong [13:37] sgclark: ln -s /usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/script/libraries/underscore.js debian/ktexteditor-data/usr/share/katepart5/script/libraries/underscore.js < in ktexteditor is wrong, since you're effectively making ktexteditor depend on kate 4 [13:38] shadeslayer: uploaded fix 2 secods ago [13:39] cool :) [13:39] sgclark: we don't need to build dep on libjs-underscore btw [13:39] it's a runtime thing only [13:40] which you forgot :P [13:40] shadeslayer: I see it too. Trusty with kubuntu-ppa-backports. apt wants to remove kaddressbook kde-baseapps-bin kdepasswd kmail kubuntu-desktop libksieveui4 and even marble [13:40] why do you have kubuntu-ppa-backports with trusty [13:41] sgclark: please fix it so that ktexteditor depends on the lib instead of build depending on it [13:42] shadeslayer: because trusty would be a backport target? :P [13:42] apachelogger: but the backports ppa has nothing that's useful right now [13:43] why is it broken then? :P [13:43] dunno [13:43] alvin: mind running : sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true dist-upgrade [13:44] and pastebinning the output === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [13:47] shadeslayer: ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742026/ [13:49] alvin: what does : apt-cache policy libkleo4 say [13:49] I didn't know the backports were more or less empty. Didn't read the announcemnt all that well apparently. [13:49] Installed: 4:4.13.1-0ubuntu0.1 | Candidate: 4:4.13.2-0ubuntu0.1 Do you need the whole output? [13:50] nope [13:50] alvin: try sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true install libkleo4 [13:50] sometimes I hate focus follows mouse [13:51] * shadeslayer throws a octopus at alvin [13:51] erm [13:51] apachelogger: [13:51] I meant apachelogger [13:51] ouch [13:51] * shadeslayer throws a octopus at apachelogger [13:51] there, I fixed it [13:52] shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742046/ [13:52] * apachelogger hand shadeslayer subversion [13:52] oh noews [13:52] I just lost all my branches [13:52] nooooo [13:52] but wait! [13:53] * shadeslayer installs git-svn [13:53] jokes on you, I have git-svn [13:53] muwhaha [13:53] subversion is what means it takes many hours to make the plasma 5 tars [13:53] apachelogger: feature request for tarme, parallelise the svn checkouts [13:54] on my todo [13:54] that debug output makes no sense [13:54] Riddell: depending on the repo it wouldn't improve much [13:55] svn connection is insanely slow [13:55] fooey [13:55] so the more stuff it actually downloads per connection attempt the faster it is [13:55] so in fact it is so slow because it keeps doing micro checkouts on a per-repo basis [13:55] right [13:56] while it could do a complete checkout of the kde-workspace dir and recycle stuff which right now it can't because a tarme project is meant to be entirely isolated [13:56] alvin: are you using a mirror? [13:56] alvin: or the official archive.ubuntu.com [14:00] alvin: and can you run the same apt-get install command with libakonadi-contact4 [14:00] Riddell: then this meta file might be ready ? [14:00] *when [14:01] shadeslayer: ktexteditor fixed [14:02] soee: not this week [14:03] sgclark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742082/ < whitespace diff :P [14:03] changelog misinformed [14:03] :) [14:03] shadeslayer: Yes, I'm using a mirror [14:03] ah ah ah [14:03] alvin: I get it on the live ISO too [14:04] so, I'll debug it in a bit [14:04] shadeslayer: for libakonadi-contact4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742094/ [14:05] shadeslayer: thx! [14:05] I don't even know how to do a meta package with a PPA [14:06] shadeslayer, apachelogger: does neon use germinate for a meta package? [14:06] nope [14:06] Riddell: but should be easy [14:06] alvin: ScottK I think something is still in proposed [14:24] Can anyone help me with khtml http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742154/ all those symbols removed? this does not seem right, symbols are not my strongpoint. [14:25] sgclark: those are from the plugins it should above the missing symbols [14:25] khtmladaptorpart.so [14:25] khtmlimagepart.so# [14:25] khtmlpart.so [14:25] etc [14:25] are those now missing? [14:37] sgclark: yes they've been moved into the -bin package so find to just remove those symbols lines from the package [14:37] Riddell: ok thanks [14:56] Riddell: now libkf5khtml-bin: shared-lib-without-dependency-information, do I need to create a symbols file for -bin? [15:00] sgclark: nah they're plugins [15:00] add a lintian-overrides [15:01] Riddell: ok thanks [15:06] Riddell: why do we have libkf5codecs-data for just locales [15:07] seems a bit useless [15:08] where is activities config stored ? [15:08] shadeslayer: arguably all -data are useless, just saves some disk space on the archive, I think scarlet added them for all frameworks [15:08] git log says it was you :) [15:09] wasn't that for multiarch until we figured out that they're not needed? [15:11] someone can give me a helping hand instaling plasma-next when this meta package is missing ? :) [15:12] oh yes, and multi-arch [15:12] yofel: why aren't they needed? [15:12] soee: make sure kwin and plasma-desktop are installed, the rest is just window dressing [15:12] lotsa kde upgrade packages held back here on 14.04 ...is this the kde upgrade to 4.13.2 ? [15:13] you could also say that kwin is literally window dressing :) [15:13] BluesKaj: same as ScottK was having, I've not looked into it [15:13] Riddell: but plasma-desktop will remove window manager etc [15:13] soee: now called just "kwin" === greyback_ is now known as greyback|post [15:14] Riddell: so if i install plasma-desktop it will remove some packages, it ok to have them removed ?> [15:14] Riddell: IIRC they are the same on all archs? [15:15] Riddell, receiving complaints from worried users at #kubuntu, and told them you guys were working on it. [15:18] ha, now i eded up with: plasma-desktop : Depends: plasma-desktop-data (= 4:4.97.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa4) but it is not going to be installed [15:19] yofel: right so they'll overlap if you install the amd4 and i386 package [15:20] BluesKaj: thanks [15:20] Riddell: which is fine as long as they're bit-by-bit identical [15:21] although we might've kept them for sanity's sake as that's a rather flaky assumption [15:21] hm [15:22] yofel: the files overlap, surely they can't be co-installed? [15:22] so the plasma-desktop-data package might be missing ? [15:22] BluesKaj: should be fixed soon [15:23] thanks, shadeslayer :) [15:23] alvin: ScottK all fixed on the main archive [15:23] BluesKaj: ^^ [15:25] Riddell: dpkg will accept it as long as they're not different [15:25] "Note that any files in /usr/share or /etc must be byte-for-byte identical across architectures, otherwise file conflicts will result! This means, in particular, that any gzip-compressed files must be compressed with -n to avoid embedded timestamps. " [15:25] yofel: interesting [15:25] hmm, i forced to install plasma-dektop-data, than i can install plasma-desktop, but had kubuntu-desktop removed :) [15:26] the kubuntu-desktop package is not required now? [15:26] soee: nope [15:26] ok, than reboot .. hope i will boot :) brb [15:29] BluesKaj: I just checked about 4.13.2 and libkdecore5 looks fine to me, so it's probably a badly synced mirror or so [15:30] it was released only an hour ago [15:30] yofel, upgrading as we speak , looking good so far , thanks [15:35] :) black screen now [15:36] rebooted, upgrade seems fine here [15:37] does the konsole package name changed in plasma-next ? [15:38] yup 4.13.2 seems to be working here [15:42] override_dh_auto_test: [15:42] true [15:42] xD [15:42] sgclark: ^^ :P [15:42] Good afternoon. [15:43] * shadeslayer fixes [15:43] shadeslayer: I have no idea what you are referring to [15:43] sgclark: that's from kconfig [15:44] shadeslayer: don't recall touching that one === greyback|post is now known as greyback [15:44] ok, git log says it's from Riddell [15:44] fun either way :) [15:51] ta da! http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.98.0/ [15:53] bah [15:53] how does one make a utopic pbuilder [15:53] sudo -E DIST=utopic pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd [15:53] I: Distribution is trusty. [15:53] * shadeslayer throws a octopus at pbuilder [15:55] is this spam or something I should be interested in? http://paste.kde.org/p1wskq4ji [15:55] shadeslayer: I had to add utopic to .pbuilderrc before it would let me [15:55] rbelem__, dantti: portugese dudes ^^ [15:56] Riddell: gosh no break lol [15:56] that poor octopus [15:56] sgclark: no rest for us :) [15:57] I did that [15:57] Riddell: I have no idea, never heard of blueice [15:58] debfx: would you rather it be a unicode snowman :/ [15:58] *:> [15:59] can i run terminal from konversation somehow ? [15:59] don't think soi [16:00] that would be ineffective. it'd just melt midair. [16:00] all settings related to desktop are stroed in .kde folder? [16:00] Riddell: it seems some company that customized kubuntu, the website is a mess I wouldn't bother :P [16:01] can anyone see what what's wrong here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742542/ [16:02] aha [16:02] aha [16:02] stupid thing [16:02] I should have been doing sudo -E dist= instead of sudo -E DIST= [16:03] it's all apachelogger's [16:03] +fault [16:12] what can be the reason i see only window (konversation) but no panels, desktop etc. just black background [16:21] plasmashell: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/plasma/dataengine/plasma_engine_powermanagement.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK5Solid7Battery9isPluggedEv [16:21] any idea what cause this ? [16:24] soee: not really sure atm you arent using new 5.0.0 with plasma are you? [16:28] soee_: not really sure atm you arent using new 5.0.0 with plasma are you? [16:29] sgclark: yes [16:29] ant plasmashell crashes because of this [16:30] if i try to load plasmashell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742679/ [16:30] soee_ we are in the middle of packaging and plasma was only released a bit ago, it is going to be a mess until all are packaged. [16:30] soee_: yes disaster is promised right now, nothing can be done. Wait till all packages are done [16:30] :) [16:34] feed branches-next had 12 updates, showing the latest 6 [16:47] Riddell: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html needs a refresh please [16:48] sgclark: he's left [16:50] shadeslayer: oh hmm [16:51] shadeslayerr: is he coming back? [16:52] not today he isn't [16:52] :p [16:52] I can fix that though [16:52] one moment [16:54] is there already milou package available to install ? [16:55] !package milou [16:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about package milou [16:57] !package plasma-widget-milou [16:57] Sorry, I don't know anything about package plasma-widget-milou [16:57] !package trusty-backports plasma-widget-milou [16:57] shadeslayer: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:57] psht [16:57] !info trusty-backports plasma-widget-milou [16:57] 'plasma-widget-milou' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed [16:57] sigh [16:57] nvm [16:57] soee: it's in backports [16:58] shadeslayer: im asking about utopic [16:59] should be [16:59] it's called plasma-widget-milou [17:01] sgclark: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/next.html [17:04] I don't understand why scp doesn't work for people.ubuntu.com :/ [17:04] yofel: ^^ [17:04] shadeslayer: thx [17:09] alright [17:09] sgclark: page should update every 5 minutes [17:09] or should it be faster [17:09] shadeslayer: nah, I am on last package [17:10] then I need a break... [17:10] alrighty, I have to leave now [17:10] cya tomorrow [17:10] cyas [17:10] * shadeslayer found minor polishing issues in kconfig [17:10] nothing that we can't fix tomorrow [17:11] ok [17:25] shadeslayer: I think because it has no shell, it requires explicit sftp [17:57] ok [17:57] yofel: ^^ [18:03] Riddell, o/ === rbelem__ is now known as rbelem [19:00] ooh close! http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html === thelionroars is now known as thelionsleeps === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars === thelionroars is now known as thelionsleeps [21:59] ubiquity fails in unicorn when language is changed === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars [22:38] Riddell: Thanks.