[00:05] <SuperHiggins> i have returned after finally re-installing lubuntu
[00:05] <SuperHiggins> unfortunately i am still unable to connect to the internet
[00:06] <SuperHiggins> this time i have the lxde desktop environment
[00:06] <SuperHiggins> is there any way i can troubleshoot this?
[00:06] <wxl> SuperHiggins: ethernet or wifi?
[00:06] <SuperHiggins> ethernet
[00:07] <wxl> oh wow i'm shocked that's an issue
[00:07] <SuperHiggins> yeah me too
[00:07] <SuperHiggins> could it be because it's not a prefab? it's a "performance" asus mobo haha
[00:07] <wxl> hahah
[00:07] <wxl> prolly not
[00:07] <wxl> lspci | grep -i ethernet
[00:09] <SuperHiggins> 02:00 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 09)
[00:09] <SuperHiggins> that makes it sound like it's a network card though, it's the onboard ethernet
[00:10] <wxl> not really :)
[00:10] <wxl> well the dell vostro 3700 has the same card
[00:11] <wxl> were you able to connect to the internet with the live cd?
[00:11] <SuperHiggins> oh i didn't try that, i just installed right away haha
[00:11] <wxl> well that might be something to check
[00:11] <wxl> during the install it tries to connect to the internet tho
[00:11] <SuperHiggins> but during the installation i was getting a message that popped up saying it couldn't connect to the network
[00:11] <wxl> (should)
[00:12] <wxl> there you go
[00:12] <SuperHiggins> and don't worry i checked, it is plugged in haha
[00:12] <wxl> do you 100% know the cable's good?
[00:13] <SuperHiggins> it worked 2 days ago. i can try another cable though
[00:13] <SuperHiggins> one sec
[00:13] <wxl> sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[00:13] <wxl> oh wait
[00:14] <wxl> you can't connect to to the network to get pastebinit XD
[00:14] <wxl> i'd be interested to know what it gives you for logical name and configuration especially
[00:15] <SuperHiggins> oh ?
[00:16] <wxl> just do sudo lshw -C network
[00:16] <wxl> OH and it should have a driver under configuration
[00:17] <SuperHiggins> umm what am i looking for?
[00:17] <wxl> ooh look it's certified http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/10ec:8168/
[00:18] <SuperHiggins> that link doesnt work for me lol
[00:18] <wxl> sudo lshw -C network | grep -i driver
[00:18] <wxl> derp :0
[00:18] <SuperHiggins> the two driver entries i get when i grep it are
[00:19] <SuperHiggins> driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI
[00:19] <wxl> 2.3?!
[00:19] <wxl> OH
[00:19] <wxl> sorry i'm looking at something else
[00:19] <wxl> there is a lame solution: get the proprietary driver
[00:19] <wxl> you need to download osmething
[00:20] <wxl> load this up on your machine http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2204946
[00:20] <wxl> download the file to a usb key or something and you should be good to go
[00:20] <SuperHiggins> oh hey that's my motherboard! must be a mobo-specific issue haha
[00:20] <wxl> i'm checking to see if r8169 has come along enough that it can be coerced to work
[00:21] <SuperHiggins> um i hate to interrupt your searching but which of these linux installs is the one i want? it's lubuntu 12.04 haha http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=5&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL8111B/RTL8168B/RTL8111/RTL8168<br>RTL8111C/RTL8111CP/RTL8111D(L)<br>RTL8168C/RTL8111DP
[00:22] <wxl> LINUX driver for kernel 3.x and 2.6.x and 2.4.x
[00:23] <SuperHiggins> ahh okay thatnks, wasn't sure :P
[00:23] <wxl> i'm assuming unmae -r gives you something like 3.something-generic
[00:23] <ianorlin> this is one reason I want an intel lan for my mobo
[00:23] <wxl> um
[00:23] <wxl> uname
[00:24] <SuperHiggins> yeah it gives me 3.13.0-24-generic
[00:24] <wxl> nice
[00:24] <wxl> go for that one and have at it and you'll be good
[00:25] <SuperHiggins> awesome, thanks alot!
[00:25] <wxl> SuperHiggins: be aware that you'll have to do this every time there's a kernel update
[00:25] <wxl> SuperHiggins: i'd file a bug against the linux kernel so that hopefully the kernel devs can push it upstream and make it happen
[00:26] <wxl> SuperHiggins: and by "it" i mean include r8168 or fix 8169
[00:26] <wxl> in case you don't know:
[00:26] <SuperHiggins> oh crap really? im guessing it's just the kernel isn't default compatible with this ethernet adapter?
[00:26] <wxl> well it's like this
[00:27] <wxl> r8169 is supposed to be but it doesn't seem like it is (broken)
[00:27] <wxl> r8168 (what you're installing) does work but it's not in the kernel
[00:27] <wxl> oh what i was going to say:
[00:27] <wxl> !bugs | SuperHiggins
[00:29] <SuperHiggins> oh okay
[00:30] <SuperHiggins> ill make sure to report the bug, so i just tell them that r8169 is broken, and r8168 works but isn't included in the kernel? and these are relating to the drivers or the adapter itself
[00:31] <SuperHiggins> uh
[00:32] <SuperHiggins> when i tried to install the driver, i ran the autorun.sh and it had an error
[00:32] <SuperHiggins> "autorun.sh: line 27: make: command not found"
[00:32] <wxl> oh tee hee
[00:32] <wxl> you need gcc
[00:32] <SuperHiggins> crap :S which i need internet to get
[00:32] <wxl> BUT
[00:33] <wxl> we can do the same thing with the usb key
[00:33] <wxl> 1s
[00:33] <wxl> 12.04 you said?
[00:33] <SuperHiggins> yeah
[00:33] <wxl> dude you got to move on :)
[00:34] <wxl> apt-cache policy libc6
[00:34] <wxl> is it installed?
[00:34] <SuperHiggins> it is
[00:34] <wxl> good
[00:34] <wxl> what about with libgcc1?
[00:34] <wxl> you should have it but just checking
[00:35] <SuperHiggins> yeah
[00:35] <wxl> oh what proc you have? i386?
[00:35] <SuperHiggins> x64, its an AMD
[00:35] <wxl> get this and `dpkg -i` it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/make_3.81-8.1ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb
[00:36] <wxl> so that's make
[00:36] <wxl> you probably need gcc too
[00:36] <wxl> apt-cache policy gcc
[00:36] <Unit193> Why not just get build-essential?
[00:36] <wxl> oh
[00:36] <wxl> yeah there you go
[00:36] <wxl> better
[00:36] <SuperHiggins> how dod i do that
[00:37] <SuperHiggins> i need gcc yeah :S
[00:37] <wxl> Unit193: actually without internet that's not going to be very useful as the deb doesn't include the dependencies
[00:37] <wxl> so ignore Unit193  :)
[00:37] <SuperHiggins> ohh okay :P
[00:37] <Unit193> Oooh, missed that bit.  He's not using apt-offline?
[00:38] <wxl> Unit193: we're trying to solve his internet connection :)
[00:38] <Unit193> Figured that one out, yes.
[00:38] <wxl> we need to get these packages to do so
[00:38] <wxl> so i'm not sure apt-offline will help
[00:38] <wxl> but tell me something else
[00:39] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/libc6-dev-amd64_2.15-0ubuntu10.5_i386.deb
[00:39] <SuperHiggins> me? or Unit193?
[00:39] <wxl> him
[00:39] <wxl> crap i gotta jet
[00:39] <SuperHiggins> oh ok
[00:39] <wxl> Unit193: can you walk him through the rest of the depends of build-essentials?
[00:40] <Unit193> There's a chance.
[00:44] <Unit193> SuperHiggins: OK, so you still needed gcc/g++(plus depends) to compile the driver right?  You got the kernel headers?
[00:44] <SuperHiggins> pardon me?
[00:48] <SuperHiggins> i'm not sure what you're referring to, sorry :S
[00:49] <Unit193> OK, so to compile that you'll need gcc, and the target is 14.04 ?  Do you have  apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic  ?
[00:49] <SuperHiggins> yes
[00:51] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/gcc-4.8-base_4.8.2-19ubuntu1_amd64.deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/gcc-4.8_4.8.2-19ubuntu1_amd64.deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/libgcc-4.8-dev_4.8.2-19ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[00:53] <SuperHiggins> the second one said Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: binutils (>= 2.24)
[00:53] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/cpp-4.8_4.8.2-19ubuntu1_amd64.deb that too.
[00:55] <Unit193> So you're not on 14.04?  Looks like precise perhaps?
[00:56] <SuperHiggins> i am on 14.04 i though
[00:56] <Unit193> lsb_release -a
[00:57] <SuperHiggins> ubuntu 14.04 LTS codename trusty
[00:58] <Unit193> I think rather than dep chasing, you should perhaps get https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/apt-offline_1.3.1_all.deb and use that to install build-essential and all the deps, sound like a good idea?
[00:59] <SuperHiggins> sounds good to me, as long as it works haha
[01:00] <SuperHiggins> alright apt-offline is installed
[01:00] <SuperHiggins> what do i do next?
[01:02] <Unit193> On the computer you need stuff installed, the one without internet: sudo apt-offline set --install-packages build-essential --update apt-offline.sig
[01:03] <Unit193> One with internet: sudo apt-offline get --bundle bundle.zip apt-offline.sig
[01:03] <Unit193> (You'll need that sig file on the one with internet!)
[01:04] <SuperHiggins> um
[01:04] <SuperHiggins> wait
[01:04] <SuperHiggins> so
[01:04] <Unit193> Then back with the one without: sudo apt-offline install bundle.zip  (And make sure the zip file is there.)
[01:04] <SuperHiggins> i am a bit confued. are the two computers going to communicate?
[01:04] <SuperHiggins> because they aren't technically on the same network
[01:06] <Unit193> They aren't going to communicate, you have a flash drive you've been using to drag files, right?  All you'll need is that apt-offline.sig file and later the bundle.zip file.
[01:06] <SuperHiggins> okay so where do i get these things that's what i want to know :S
[01:07] <Unit193> You create the sig file with the first command, and the zip file with the second, and you install packages in the zip with the last.
[01:07] <SuperHiggins> okay
[01:07] <SuperHiggins> oh crap does my online computer need to be linux?
[01:07] <SuperHiggins> my online computer is windows
[01:10] <Unit193> Welp, it does make it considerably easaier...
[01:10] <SuperHiggins> darn...
[01:11] <Unit193> http://www.debian-administration.org/article/648/Offline_Package_Management_for_APT indicates windows can do it.  But yeah.
[01:12] <SuperHiggins> i am guessing though that i'd kind of have to figure that out on my own?
[01:12] <Unit193> Well you could send me the sig file. :P
[01:13] <SuperHiggins> would that be bothersome for you?
[01:13] <Unit193> Noope.
[01:13] <Unit193> Otherwise I can try and pull up what other deps you'd need.
[01:14] <SuperHiggins> well okay, i can send you the sig file then
[01:14] <SuperHiggins> whatevers more convenient for you honestly
[01:23] <SuperHiggins> im thinking of two other things: a) i somehow find a compiled version of this driver and install that, or b) i stick the linux hard drive in my desktop and compile the driver there, it should be a different driver and ethernet adapter
[01:24] <SuperHiggins> i don't know if linux is that portable in terms of hardware
[01:30] <Unit193> !info r8168-dkms
[01:31] <Unit193> SuperHiggins: Biggest problem you'd have is if you cloned the drive, because of uuid issues.  It's fairly portable.
[01:33] <SuperHiggins> uh okay... i am really not sure what i should do honestly. what would you recommend?
[01:37] <Unit193> I'd get that package, it's the dkms module for the r8168.
[01:38] <SuperHiggins> how do i get it?
[01:38] <Unit193> DKMS moduels are great, they "recompile" when you install a new kernel.  I'd recommend the same way, with apt-offline since it depends on dkms, which depends on gcc, make, build-ess, etc.  Otherwise, I can help you dep hunt.
[01:40] <SuperHiggins> apt-offline is the method that involves the .sig file and the .zip file right?
[01:41] <Unit193> Yeeeep.
[01:41] <SuperHiggins> okay, i hate to pester you, but could you generate the zip file if i send you the sig file?
[01:41] <Unit193> Sure, not a bother.
[01:42] <SuperHiggins> the command was: sudo apt-offline set --install-packages build-essential --update apt-offline.sig
[01:42] <SuperHiggins> right?
[01:43] <Unit193> Except, you'll want to swap build-essential for r8168-dkms now.
[01:43] <SuperHiggins> okay
[01:44] <SuperHiggins> ...uh oh
[01:44] <SuperHiggins> errors yay
[01:44] <SuperHiggins> E: Command line option --simulate is not understood
[01:44] <SuperHiggins> ERROR: FATAL: Something is wrong with the apt system.
[01:45] <SuperHiggins> and then when it tries to generate the r8168-dkms package and it's dependancies
[01:45] <SuperHiggins> E: Unable to locate package r8168-dkms
[01:45] <SuperHiggins> ERROR: FATAL: Something is wrong with the apt system
[01:46] <SuperHiggins> oh and the first two errors refer to generating database list of files that are needed for an update
[01:51] <Unit193> https://paste.unit193.net/?586dc608a4366c8d#OFWMd64WhqakCrAMkcnjLS6udeTlLCuFMra+c2gJ1OU=  Alright, there's the start of the list then.
[01:54] <SuperHiggins> the second link is 404
[01:56] <Unit193> Ugh, there's no simple way to script this either, and I'm sure you won't just download off my server. :P  OK, I'll pull that up properly.
[01:57] <SuperHiggins> gee haha it seems like every time we come across a soltuion we just hit another snag :P
[01:58] <SuperHiggins> oh and the second last one as well
[02:04] <Unit193> https://paste.unit193.net/?7ee4245c0918241c#zdaEYBP8P9NfnxZTMh6aY27ivkX+lB6kvEFO5xrCbBY= those are all active.
[02:11] <Unit193> FWIW, fixing internet without internet always stinks, I've had to do it before with my wireless.  Was a b43 device.
[02:12] <SuperHiggins> yeah
[02:12] <Unit193> Getting there?
[02:12] <SuperHiggins> there's a whole bunch of dependencies i don't have here i think...
[02:12] <SuperHiggins> i guess i've got to write each one down huh?
[02:13] <Unit193> Either that or fix the other tool. :P
[02:14] <SuperHiggins> oh boy XD absolutely nothing likes me here it seems
[02:18] <Unit193> Yey!  New version of apt-offline seems to work. :D
[02:21] <SuperHiggins> oh, was i not using the newest version?
[02:23] <Unit193> You were, this is from git.
[02:26] <SuperHiggins> where do i acquire the new version?
[02:27] <Unit193> https://alioth.debian.org/snapshots.php?group_id=100399 for the source, and I just built myself a deb file.
[02:28] <SuperHiggins> uhh... i think i'll need the deb file? cuz i dont have gcc or all that haha
[02:32] <Unit193> http://people.ubuntu.com/~unit193/apt-offline_1.3.2_all.deb it's python, no compiles.
[02:42] <SuperHiggins> this one only gets the second set of errors rather than the first, which is that it can't find the r8168-dkms package
[02:42] <SuperHiggins> is that fixable?
[02:45] <Unit193> Leave off the install option and just use --update.
[02:48] <SuperHiggins> ummm... i think im entering it wrong.
[02:48] <SuperHiggins> sudo apt-offline set r8168-dkms --update apt-offline.sig
[02:49] <Unit193> sudo apt-offline set --update apt-offline.sig  this'll update your sources.
[02:49] <SuperHiggins> ohhh okay :P
[02:49] <SuperHiggins> i have the sig file
[02:50] <Unit193> Email it to me, upload it, or something.
[02:50] <SuperHiggins> oh okay, i was about to put it on my web server... and then i realized that my linux machine was my web server haha
[02:50] <SuperHiggins> email?
[02:50]  * Unit193 @ubuntu.com
[02:55] <SuperHiggins> sent you an email
[02:58] <Unit193> 90a6a11f87719270faa93b022b91a50f  https://unit193.net/bundle.zip
[03:04] <SuperHiggins> okay i think it was successful... so what did that install?
[03:04] <Unit193> After you get that "installed", same type of deal with  sudo apt-offline set --install-packages r8168-dkms
[03:07] <SuperHiggins> it said too few arguments?
[03:09] <Unit193> Right, forgot the sig file: sudo apt-offline set --install-packages r8168-dkms apt-offline.sig
[03:09] <Unit193> Bah: sudo apt-offline set --install-packages r8168-dkms --update apt-offline.sig
[03:10] <SuperHiggins> okay that succeeded
[03:15] <SuperHiggins> do i uh... send you this apt-offline.sig?
[03:16] <Unit193> Yep.
[03:17] <SuperHiggins> okay
[03:23] <SuperHiggins> send it :P again thanks alot for doing all this for me... i would have probably never figured it out on my own haha
[03:24] <SuperHiggins> sent it *
[03:26] <Unit193> 56db0fd1f575d946eafcfb4fa68b6965  https://unit193.net/bundle.zip  Sure thing, just sorry for all the trouble this caused.
[03:29] <Unit193> And nah, this is a quiet night, nothing going on really.
[03:30] <Unit193> SuperHiggins: You'll have to do one last  sudo apt-get install r8168-dkms  to get it all installed.
[03:34] <SuperHiggins> the sudo apt-get install r8168-dkms
[03:34] <SuperHiggins> worked
[03:34] <SuperHiggins> so now i guess i restart and it should be working?
[03:35] <Unit193> I'd  sudo dkms status  first, just to take a look.
[03:36] <SuperHiggins> r8168, 8.037.00, 3.13.0-24-generic, x86_64: installed
[03:36] <Unit193> \o/
[03:36] <SuperHiggins> yes!
[03:36] <SuperHiggins> alright im going to restart
[03:39] <SuperHiggins> umm... i still cant connect to the internet.
[03:40] <Unit193> lspci -v  and see what driver (if any) that device says it's using.
[03:40] <SuperHiggins> uhh there's a lot of things popping up haha
[03:41] <Unit193> You're looking for your network device, and "Kernel driver in use:"
[03:42] <SuperHiggins> ohh okay i found it
[03:42] <SuperHiggins> it's using r8168
[03:43] <Unit193> The driver is loaded so it should be working, can you open NM and see what's up ?
[03:44] <SuperHiggins> NM?
[03:44] <Unit193> NetworkManager, the little tray icon.
[03:46] <SuperHiggins> well when i hover over it it says it has limited or no connectivity
[03:46] <SuperHiggins> but i can't "open" it...
[03:54] <Unit193> Check if you can  ping 8.8.8.8  ?
[03:54] <SuperHiggins> connect: Network is unreachable
[03:55] <Unit193> Alright, well then I'd say that's pretty darn limited, I take it your network doesn't require you to log in?  Also may want to run nm-tool
[03:55] <SuperHiggins> it doesn't. it goes directly to a modem
[03:56] <SuperHiggins> and it says "state: connecting"
[03:56] <SuperHiggins> the driver is r168, it's an ethernet device (eth0), and it should be working haha
[03:58] <Unit193> OK, have you recently tried another device on this modem? 0_o
[03:59] <SuperHiggins> my other computer is on this modem
[04:01] <Unit193> Does /var/log/syslog say anything interesting?
[04:01] <SuperHiggins> command not found
[04:02] <Unit193> (It's a log file.)
[04:02] <SuperHiggins> ohh okay
[04:02] <SuperHiggins> so no
[04:03] <Unit193> In the modem webpage (if it does in fact have one) say anything in the log or what devices are connected?
[04:03] <SuperHiggins> it doesn't have a webpage, it's just a generic coax-cable to ethernet modem
[04:04] <Unit193> Right, mine is pretty generic too, but it's got one at http://192.168.100.1/
[04:06] <SuperHiggins> yeah mine doesn't have that or anything
[04:07] <Unit193> Bummer.  So, out of the obvious, can't think of why it wouldn't be actually connecting, looks like the driver is at least working fine...
[04:07] <SuperHiggins> well that's good i guess
[04:10] <Unit193> So, outside of an ip clash or the modem only supporting modem mode (one ethernet connection), I'd try and make sure you can do the exact same setup, two different devices connected at the modem, but...
[04:13] <SuperHiggins98> sorry was testing something
[04:15] <Unit193> No, testing is good.  I presume it didn't work?
[04:15] <SuperHiggins98> yeah i was thinking it was some wiring issue
[04:19] <SuperHiggins98> im going to timeout again for a moment, testing one last thing
[04:19] <Unit193> OK.
[04:21] <SuperHiggins> nope.
[04:22] <Unit193> No settings you had to do in Windows I presume either.
[04:23] <SuperHiggins> nope
[04:23] <SuperHiggins> i'm starting to think that i got a faulty board.
[04:25] <Unit193> Wait, so didn't it try to use another driver before?  lsmod  to list modules.
[04:27] <SuperHiggins> umm... well i see r8168 on there. i dont know what im supposed to be looking at though :S
[04:27] <Unit193> Just making sure r8169 or something isn't in.
[04:28] <SuperHiggins> i dont see it
[04:29] <Unit193> Clasing drivers, not fun.
[04:31] <SuperHiggins> yeah i'd imagine
[04:31] <Unit193> OK, soo.  I'm out of ideas, I'd like to think we actually got a working driver for it though. ;P
[04:31] <SuperHiggins> yeah, well i'm sure we made some sort of progress
[04:32] <Unit193> Wonder if it's something kernel related that .30 or so fixed.
[04:33] <SuperHiggins> maybe
[04:34] <SuperHiggins> im going to restart all of my network devices
[04:34] <SuperHiggins> be back soon
[04:34] <Unit193> OK.
[04:36] <SuperHiggins98> no dice.
[04:42]  * Unit193 wonders what he's missin'
[04:46] <SuperHiggins98> okay so i tested the wiring
[04:46] <SuperHiggins98> it works on my personal laptop
[04:47] <SuperHiggins98> so it's definitely a problem with the linux machine still
[04:47] <ianorlin> SuperHiggins98:  what asus motherboard was it?
[04:47] <SuperHiggins98> M5A97 R2.0
[04:52]  * SuperHiggins98 hopes it isn't a lost cause.
[04:54] <Unit193> So according to the readme: # ifconfig -a  If there is a device name, ethX, shown on the monitor, the linux driver is loaded. Then, you can use the following command to activate the ethX
[04:57] <Unit193> SuperHiggins98: Also, if you want one last bundle to totally update your system, just poke me soon. (Getting late.)
[04:59] <SuperHiggins98> it's fine i think, but thanks for offering. what was the command to use to activate the ethX ?
[04:59] <SuperHiggins98> i think it didnt send
[05:00] <Unit193> sudo ifup eth0
[05:00] <SuperHiggins98> ohh
[05:00] <SuperHiggins98> i got a weird message
[05:01] <SuperHiggins98> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[05:04] <Unit193> What did ifconfig -a  return?
[05:05] <SuperHiggins98> eth0 and lo
[05:05] <SuperHiggins98> oh and if i try to "configure" eth0 from network manager it says the interface does not exist
[05:07]  * SuperHiggins98 is pulling at straws here
[05:09] <Unit193> Oh, what's in /etc/network/interfaces?
[05:09] <SuperHiggins98> auto lo
[05:09] <SuperHiggins98> iface lo inet loopback
[05:09] <SuperHiggins98> and thats it
[05:20] <Unit193> ianorlin: Ideas?
[05:20] <Unit193> SuperHiggins98: And I looked at the package, this dkms package blacklisted r8169 so it wouldn't conflict.
[05:21] <SuperHiggins98> ohh okay
[05:23] <ianorlin> none whatsoever for this
[05:24] <Unit193> So, I'm thinking his best bet now is to either try #ubuntu or ##linux?
[05:27] <SuperHiggins98> well, if that's the case, then i think this is a good stopping point for the night. i'm pretty exhausted.
[05:27] <SuperHiggins98> thank you guys very much though, you've been a great help to me, and i'm really appreciative of the time you spent trying to help me get through this
[05:29] <SuperHiggins98> i'm going to get some sleep now, have a good night!
[08:32] <Budoy> hi! iwant to ask how can configure the view of my folder with a dropdown in details View?
[08:37] <Budoy> i mean list tree view
[08:58] <Budoy> how to make a list tree view on lubuntu please help
[14:38] <linguini> I quite like lubuntu, but one thing about it causes me some trouble:
[14:39] <linguini> For unknown reasons, Ctrl-space does not seem to make it all the way into my emacs.
[14:40] <linguini> I looked in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml, but saw no key binding C-Space there.
[15:59] <SuperHiggins> well, i've been to #ubuntu, and they couldn't help me. nobody in ##linux responded to my question... so i'm kind of at a loss now.
[16:11] <gmzaroo> hi guys
[16:11] <gmzaroo> can i ask for some help here?
[16:12] <gmzaroo> My Lubuntu crashed and on reboot, the taskbar doesn't appear
[16:13] <gmzaroo> i tried to restart lxpanel or lxpanelctl but it says 'Gtk-warning cannot open dispaly'
[16:19] <Guest530> hi together
[16:29] <phillw> SuperHiggins: do you still need help?
[16:36] <SuperHiggins> i ended up scrounding up a cd drive and installing lubuntu that way. unfortunately reinstalling didn't solve my problems. it seems i've hit the well-known yet unsolved issue of the kernel driver r8169 :S
[16:36] <SuperHiggins> scrounging *
[16:39] <wxl> phillw: if you're looking to help see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2204946
[16:40] <SuperHiggins> i have actually installed that driver
[16:40] <wxl> still no dice?
[16:48] <phillw> wxl: that looks like it is awaiting a new driver for some recent revision of the chipset?
[16:50] <phillw> wxl: maybe ask on ##kernel ? The only other thing I can think of, is to see if fedora have a newer version which could be cherry-picked? (Ubuntu kernel team have previously cherry picked a red-hat fix for me).
[17:02] <wxl> phillw: from wah i grokked r8168 should solve the problem
[17:02] <wxl> phillw: unless IT has problems now. r8169 (default, in the kernel) should work, too, but it appears buggy
[17:08] <phillw> I've asked bodhi to check what fedora are using, he'll reply when he has a chance to check.
[18:22] <daninoz> hi, I'm having an issue, when I work with chrome or chromium the windows is always visible, even when I change desktops or minimize it
[18:27] <wxl> daninoz: even when you minimize it? without any distortion of the window?
[18:27] <wxl> daninoz: is it only chromium? what about firefox?
[18:29] <daninoz> wxl: it's only with chrome and chromiun. I changed the chrome config to use the system borders and it dissapear when I minimized it, but it stays there when I switch desktops
[18:30] <wxl> daninoz: so there's no issue with minimizing then?
[18:30] <daninoz> not now, only when switching desktops. Firefox work ok
[18:31] <wxl> daninoz: check on the desktop tag in lubuntu-rc for chrome or chromium https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Windows#How_do_I_assign_certain_program_to_open_to_a_desktop_.232
[18:46] <daninoz> wxl: I fixed it disabling the hardware acceleration option in chrome config
[19:06] <wxl> daninoz: that's a strange one :) probably particular to your specific video card
[23:54] <aramil> is there anyone with winxp experience i need help installing winxp on a different hard drive
[23:55] <aramil> i have lubuntu 14.04 installed