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[04:11] <lilcyber> When I try to flash my d2vzw with the preview of ubuntu touch, it locks up my phone around the 90% mark. Any idea?
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[07:27] <pitti> did anyone else notice that "powerd-cli display on bright" just stopped working? it doesn't change dim/turn off in any way now
[07:27] <pitti> ChickenCutlass_: ^
[07:27]  * pitti files bug 1337192
[07:27] <ubot5> bug 1337192 in powerd (Ubuntu) ""powerd-cli display on bright" stopped working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337192
[07:33] <popey> pitti: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg08656.html related?
[07:41] <pitti> popey: no, adb itself works fine
[07:41] <popey> ah
[07:45] <pitti> hm, after another complete factory reset it works again, this is a bit unspecific
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[08:24] <la_juyis> davmor2, can you confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1324580?
[08:24] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1324580 in Ubuntu Clock App "alarm will only ring for a minute and stop whether or not the user interacted with it" [Undecided,New]
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[09:07] <frecel> la_juyis: I confirmed it
[09:10] <la_juyis> frecel, thanks
[09:23] <popey> frecel: bug 1337239
[09:23] <ubot5> bug 1337239 in powerd (Ubuntu) "Digitiser still works when phone locked" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337239
[09:24] <popey> ogra_: ^^ can you also reproduce? it's easy. Frecel found it.
[09:24] <frecel> popey: i think my hd is dying on my desktop everything is crashing
[09:25] <frecel> brb
[09:25] <popey> oh noes
[09:26] <ogra_> popey, nope, i cant ... 106 here
[09:27] <ogra_> no indicators when swiping down, no launcher when swiping from the left
[09:27] <popey> hmm
[09:27]  * popey reboots and tries again
[09:27] <popey> try opening the music app and playing a song, lock screen and try to reproduce again
[09:27] <popey> might be music triggering it
[09:28] <popey> yup, my 106 does it after launching music
[09:28] <popey> but not before
[09:29] <ogra_> ah
[09:30] <popey> updated bug description
[09:30] <ogra_> confirmed
[09:30] <popey> ta
[09:30] <popey> thanks for nailing that frecel
[09:30] <frecel> popey: so it looks like i was right about the music thing
[09:30] <popey> yes
[09:31] <frecel> funny story, I discovered this bug while listening to music with my phone in my back pocket on a hot day, my sweaty butt was pausing the music
[09:31] <popey> haha
[09:31] <ogra_> lol
[09:32]  * popey updates the bug without the sweaty butt anecdote
[09:32] <nhaines> That's definitely bringing a human side to Ubuntu development.  :)
[09:33] <nhaines> I'm finding that in r105 and r106, my Nexus 5 isn't powering down when I hold the power button.
[09:33] <frecel> The Human Touch :D
[09:33] <popey> haha
[09:33] <nhaines> frecel: bug reporting for human beings.  :)
[09:33] <w00t_> Ubuntu Touch(ed my butt)?
[09:33] <popey> you guys
[09:37]  * frecel wonders if he should create a seperate Launchpad account for his butt
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[09:39] <mandel> Elleo, FYI I did not forget about udm, I'm adding the missing tests for the qml plugin so that we can trust it more than we do atm
[09:39] <mandel> Elleo, which means I had to do a small reorg, but we should have integration tests for the plugin to test the uses you had issues with
[09:41] <Elleo> mandel: okay; can that be ready to land today? (last day of the extended freeze deadline)
[09:41] <mandel> Elleo, yes
[09:41] <Elleo> mandel: great, thanks :)
[09:41] <mandel> Elleo, but a freeze is for new features and this is a bug, right?
[09:42] <Elleo> mandel: general download support in browser is a new feature and it depends on UDM's header setting
[09:42] <mandel> Elleo, ah, ok
[09:42] <mandel> Elleo, well, I'll get it done for today, give me 30 mins to finish the tests
[09:42] <ahoo> hi
[09:43] <Elleo> mandel: great, thanks
[09:43] <ahoo> i am irani
[09:43] <duflu> Hey is there a bug open for the OSK (wifi password) not receiving touches as they pass-thru ?
[09:43] <duflu> (in 106)
[09:43] <ahoo> bye
[09:44] <duflu> Hi ahoo
[09:45] <Elleo> duflu: is that in the welcome screen?
[09:46] <duflu> Elleo: Yes, and then after install too
[09:46] <duflu> Still can't set the wifi password
[09:46] <Elleo> duflu: after restarting is it still the case?
[09:46] <duflu> Elleo: I'll have to reboot to be sure
[09:46] <Elleo> there's some funnyness with the way the welcome wizard sets up the keyboard at the moment iirc
[09:47] <Elleo> I can enter wifi passwords on 109 (but this is after a normal startup without the welcome screen)
[09:48] <vesar> does anybody know if phablet-screenshot is still supposed to work? It fails for me saying: Failed to connect to server. Error was :connect: No such file or directory
[09:48] <vesar> remote object '/tmp/mir_screencast_768x1280.rgba' does not exist
[09:49] <frecel> vesar: can you paste the entire command you are trying to use?
[09:49] <frecel> popey: http://i.imgur.com/iM3o82a.png
[09:50] <vesar> frecel, phablet-screenshot screenshot.jpg
[09:51] <duflu> Elleo: Yep reboot fixed it
[09:51] <duflu> vesar: The path to the socket changed and the screenshot tools didn't know. You have to pass it as a parameter
[09:51] <frecel> vesar: works for me, what does adb devices show?
[09:52] <duflu> vesar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1327139
[09:53] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1327139 in mir (Ubuntu) "mirscreencast broke (moved socket) in #71" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:54] <popey> frecel: ooer
[09:56] <popey> frecel: i cant reproduce that here...
[09:58] <frecel> now i cant either because i'm out of things to update
[09:59] <Elleo> duflu: okay, I don't see a bug for that specific issue; so if you wouldn't mind filing one including the detail that it only happens after the first boot with the welcome screen that'd be a big help
[10:01] <duflu> Elleo: Which LP project?
[10:01] <Elleo> duflu: ideally both the keyboard and the welcome greeter to be sure; not sure what the project name for the welcome screen is though
[10:02] <Elleo> popey: ^ any idea?
[10:03] <Elleo> duflu: ah, looks like it's part of ubuntu-system-settings
[10:03] <popey> no, separate now
[10:03] <Elleo> duflu: and the keyboard is ubuntu-keyboard
[10:03] <Elleo> popey: oh?
[10:04] <duflu> Elleo: Thanks, found it
[10:04] <popey> cant find it
[10:04] <popey> ubuntu-system-settings-wizard maybe?
[10:04] <popey> ubuntu-system-settings-wizard - Welcome Wizard for Ubuntu Touch
[10:04] <popey> yes
[10:05] <nhaines> popey: Do you think there's any chance on giving feedback on the phone bootsplash or that a Design Team-only thing?
[10:07] <Elleo> popey: looks like it still lives in ubuntu-system-settings codebase though, I think it just generates an extra package from that
[10:07] <popey> ahh
[10:08] <popey> nhaines: we welcome feedback, but reserve the right to disagree with it ☻
[10:09] <nhaines> popey: well, I simply think that the bootsplash should be identical to the desktop Plymouth theme.  Or at least not be tiny.  :)
[10:09] <nhaines> I just don't know who to tell about it.  :)
[10:09] <duflu> popey: I do that semi-regularly as bugs. They go into the void of Launchpad, mostly to never be touched
[10:09] <seb128> Elleo, popey: the bootsplash is not in the settings
[10:10] <nhaines> seb128: I ended up interrupting a discussion I thought was over.  Bootsplash isn't related to what they're talking about.  :)
[10:10] <seb128> nhaines, oh, ok :-)
[10:13] <nhaines> Which, by the way, the Welcome Wizard is kind of nice.  I like the last screen ("Welcome to the community!"); it makes me smile.
[10:21] <mandel> Elleo, building a deb to test here locally, if it is ok I'll push and you can take a look
[10:22] <nik90_> fginther: I am getting some jenkins failures on https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/correct-time-locale/+merge/225005 which I am unable to comprehend why. Can you help please?
[10:28] <Elleo2> mandel: okay, great
[10:28] <mandel> Elleo2, will land the tests in a diff branch so that you are not blocked
[10:28] <Elleo2> mandel: thanks
[10:29] <mandel> Elleo2, specially, because we had no tests so they are not going to fail with the changes ;)
[10:29] <mandel> all green \o/
[10:30] <Elleo2> heh
[10:39] <mandel> Elleo2, just pushed the changes, can you please take it for a spin, if it looks good I'll request a silo and will test asap
[10:39] <mandel> Elleo2, will make sure it is there as fast as possible
[10:43] <Elleo2> mandel: okay, will do
[10:50] <Laney> is there some kind of confinement for url-dispatcher?
[10:50] <Laney> I'm trying to openUrlExternally a settings panel from qml but it doesn't come up
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[10:57] <Laney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7741402/
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[11:12] <satoris> cyphermox_: trying to enable hotspot on the device produces this wonderful kernel error, any idea what could be causing it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7741143/
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[11:40] <Cimi> seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/ubuntu-system-settings/workaround_lp1334429/+merge/225458
[11:53] <Elleo> mandel: looks good, downloads are working every time from gmail now and my test script always shows the right headers :)
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[12:39] <fginther> nik90_, the lp:ubuntu-clock-app/reboot branch doesn't have debian packaging. The jenkins infrastructure isn't capable of building and testing anything that's not a debian package. There is some work in progress to build click packages on jenkins, but I don't know if we'll be able to test those
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[12:39] <fginther> balloons, have you tried running autopilot tests on click packages on a desktop?
[12:39] <nik90_> fginther: oh
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[12:40] <nik90_> fginther: well at the moment, that branch doesn't have any packaging click or deb for that matter
[12:40] <nik90_> fginther: I guess I will do manual merges until we get the packaging up and running
[12:42] <ybon> nik90_: how do I delete an alarm? :)
[12:42] <popey> swipe
[12:42] <nik90_> ybon: just swipe delete
[12:43] <ybon> doh :)
[12:43] <ybon> thanks :)
[12:44] <ybon> nik90_: sometimes my alarm doesn't ring on the morning, but I'm not able to give you any info to reproduce that atm, just keeping an eye open to understand why/when it occurs
[12:44] <nik90_> ybon: is it similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1333299?
[12:44] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1333299 in Ubuntu Clock App "Recurring alarms only work once" [Undecided,New]
[12:45] <ybon> humm
[12:45] <ybon> not sure
[12:45] <ybon> I generally set the alarm around midnight for the morning after, and it doesn't ring even once
[12:45] <ybon> I need to investigate more
[12:49] <nik90_> ybon: try to see if you can spot a general pattern and then report it
[12:50] <ybon> yes, this is what I'm trying to spot since some days now, but without luck
[12:51] <ybon> One element though: the times when the alarms as rung was when I've added more than one alarm in the same time
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[13:13] <mterry> ogra_, you were testing libnss-extrausers in the past, yes?
[13:14] <ogra_> mterry, not really since we need adduser fixed first
[13:14] <mterry> k
[13:14] <mterry> slangasek, have you looked at bug 1323732 yet?
[13:14] <ubot5> bug 1323732 in adduser (Ubuntu) "adduser should support managing additional password/shadow/group files from libnss-extrausers" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1323732
[13:23] <pitti> mterry: hey, how are you?
[13:23] <mterry> pitti, hello!  good, I saw you managed to work around the issue
[13:23] <mterry> pitti, is that sufficient?
[13:23] <pitti> mterry: I'm quite happy now with the phone setup script, FWIW; http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git;a=blob;f=ssh-setup/adb;hb=HEAD doesn't look too horrible and works quite well
[13:23] <pitti> mterry: yes, the greeter thing turned out to be a complete non-issue
[13:24] <pitti> mterry: I have some trouble with powerd-cli (bug 1337192), with aa-clickhook (bug 1238007), and with ubuntu-app-launch (bug 1333215), the rest is fine
[13:24] <ubot5> bug 1337192 in powerd (Ubuntu) ""powerd-cli display on bright" stopped working" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337192
[13:24] <ubot5> bug 1238007 in click-apparmor (Ubuntu) "aa-clickhook -f does not properly consider changes to abstractions and #include directories" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238007
[13:24] <ubot5> bug 1333215 in ubuntu-app-launch (Ubuntu) ""Unable to find keyfile for application": Does not look for .desktop files in click pkgdir" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333215
[13:25] <pitti> mterry: so I can now run a click test with or without factory reset, and the latter turns "virgin install" into "ready for testing" with some phablet-config magic and some workarounds for the above bugs
[13:25] <mterry> nice
[13:25] <pitti> and all without r/w, apt-get install, etc.
[13:25] <pitti> and we can drop autopilot from the seeds if we want to
[13:26] <pitti> the fallback "unpack into /tmp" magic works for autopilot, autopilot-qt, and the various *-autopilot helper packages
[13:27] <pitti> and we don't have to re-flash between tests, so it should be about as fast as it can get
[13:27] <pitti> running tests in a container is still a magnitude faster of course :)
[13:28] <ogra_> pitti, we still use autopilot for the non-click tests ...
[13:28] <ogra_> click is only a very minor portion of our tests
[13:28] <ogra_> (sadly)
[13:29] <pitti> ogra_: right, but these will have to use apt-get install anyway, so they just as well might install autopilot-touch as well?
[13:29] <ogra_> hmm, could be ...
[13:29] <pitti> or we run them with autopkgtest, then it'll install all test deps with or without r/w :)
[13:30] <ogra_> right, i just dont think we can just drop it without further adjustments
[13:30] <pitti> I thought that's what the CI team planned to do anyway, and why they asking me "is it ready yet?" every other day
[13:30] <pitti> ogra_: no, I'm not saying we should do it now, of course
[13:30] <ogra_> yes, thats the master plan
[13:31] <pitti> just that there's some way out of shipping it on the images
[13:31] <ogra_> yeah, looking forward to drop all the test stuff
[13:34] <dholbach> dbarth, alex-abreu: can you suggest which package would be appropriate to have this bug retargetted against? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntudeveloperportal/+bug/1333341
[13:34] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1333341 in Ubuntu App Developer site "No keyboard shortcut or right button menu in a webapp." [Undecided,New]
[13:35] <dholbach> dbarth, alex-abreu: also... do you know where http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/html5/sdk-14.10/UbuntuUI.Toolbar/ comes from?
[13:35] <alex-abreu> dholbach, webbrowser-app
[13:36] <dholbach> (bug 1333000)
[13:36] <ubot5> bug 1333000 in Ubuntu App Developer site "Unnecessary div in toolbar documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333000
[13:36] <alex-abreu> dholbach, yes, do you want me to fix that one? ... or if you have time ...
[13:36] <alex-abreu> dholbach, comes from inline docs in lp:ubuntu-html5-theme
[13:37] <dholbach> alex-abreu, I'm just going through ubuntudeveloperportal bugs right now and reassign them :)
[13:37] <alex-abreu> dholbach, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-html5-theme-devs/ubuntu-html5-theme/trunk/view/head:/0.1/ambiance/js/toolbars.js
[13:37] <alex-abreu> dholbach, thx for tracking those
[13:39] <mterry> seb128, Laney: what's the easiest way to test ubuntu-system-settings on my desktop?
[13:39] <mterry> do I have to install the packages, or can I run out of tree?
[13:39] <Laney> package
[13:40] <Laney> if you use ccache it's fast to iterate
[13:40] <seb128> mterry, bzr bd
[13:40] <Laney> we haven't got in-tree builds working yet sadly
[13:40] <mterry> k, thanks
[13:40]  * mterry wonders if ccache is still set up...
[13:41] <mterry> huh, no it was not
[13:42] <seb128> I usually iterate by "make; cp; system-settings" called back on my command line
[13:42] <cwayne> alex-abreu: ping
[13:43] <dbarth> dholbach: checking
[13:43] <alex-abreu> cwayne, pong
[13:43] <dbarth> dholbach: it's a duplicate
[13:45] <cwayne> alex-abreu: hey, just wanted to check in re: the webapps + url handler bits, would that already work if i setup the click-hooks? or is there underlying work in webapp-container that needs doing first?
[13:47] <alex-abreu> cwayne, there are 2 branches needed, one for webapps-core and one for webbrowser-app (and its sub component webapp-container) ... lp:~abreu-alexandre/webapps-core/update-execline and lp:~abreu-alexandre/webbrowser-app/url-dispatch
[13:47] <alex-abreu> cwayne, they should be enough ... although I havent fully tested the whole setup yet
[13:47] <cwayne> alex-abreu: and so once those land, it should be simple enough as adding url click-hooks to a webapp's click?
[13:49] <alex-abreu> cwayne, yes if you want to use qt.openurlexternally ... you might want to target the webapp directly though for the builtin ones no ? ... e.g. appid://facebook not sure if there is a simple client side api though
[13:50] <cwayne> alex-abreu: well we just give a URI to unity which then opens it ( i assume using qt.openurlexternally)
[13:50] <cwayne> but we may want to pass some args to it right? like maybe a grooveshark://song-id or something
[13:51] <dholbach> dbarth, ah ok
[13:53] <mandel> Elleo, then we are ready to land :)
[13:54] <mandel> Elleo, well set up the silo, or at least the request
[13:57] <Elleo> mandel: not sure if bfiller might want to land it as part of the same silo as browser?
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[13:58] <mandel> Elleo, well, we need to grab the projects that depend on udm due to abi changes..
[13:59] <bfiller> mandel: I'd say to get your own silo, we can't land the browser side changes until the oxide lands but you should get udm landed as soon as you can
[13:59] <mandel> bfiller, correct and it will be easier for me to follow the test plan of just udm
[13:59] <bfiller> Elleo, mandel : the cookies problem is sorted?
[13:59] <Elleo> mandel: those abi changes aren't in any public api's are they? otherwise I think you'll hit problems
[13:59] <la_juyis> popey, I know that now videos can be recorded again. were you able to play them later?
[14:00] <Elleo> bfiller: yep, latest build of expose-property will download as many times as you like from gmail :)
[14:00] <bfiller> awesome!
[14:00] <mandel> Elleo, don't worry, we should be ok from my side
[14:00] <Elleo> mandel: okay, cool
[14:02] <la_juyis> popey, ok, I could reproduce now after closing the camera app (!)
[14:03] <la_juyis> interestingly enough, the media player doesn't consider videos recorded with the camera app as videos it could play :O
[14:03] <popey> la_juyis: video playback seems a bit broken in gallery
[14:04] <popey> cant get out of it
[14:11] <boiko> elopio: hi, got your message quite late here, so, there are some AP fixes for dialer in silo 003, if you are looking into dialer-app failures, you should probably grab the changes from there too
[14:11] <boiko> elopio: https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/dialer-app/fix_flaky_tests/+merge/223798
[14:12] <mandel> Elleo, can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/client-logging/+merge/225021 and do a quick review?
[14:15] <Elleo> mandel: sure
[14:15] <mandel> Elleo, thx
[14:16] <Elleo> mandel: this one doesn't expose the logger via QML, right? that was just expose-logging?
[14:16] <Elleo> so just available via the C++ api
[14:16] <mandel> Elleo, no, just internal
[14:16] <mandel> Elleo, only for cpp
[14:17] <Elleo> okay
[14:17] <mandel> Elleo, as we agreed, we will do that later
[14:17] <Elleo> mandel: yep, sounds good
[14:17] <Elleo> mandel: just in a stand up at the moment, so will have a dig through the code as soon as that's done
[14:17] <Elleo> mandel: from actually using it via the qml branch it's very nice though
[14:17] <mandel> Elleo, sure, I'm in the same situation, and I'm terrible at multitaksing ;)
[14:18] <Elleo> heh
[14:19] <seb128> Cimi, could you get mterry of somebody who understand the osk/mir integration to review https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/ubuntu-system-settings/workaround_lp1334429/+merge/225458 ?
[14:19] <mandel> seb128, can you do a very simple review for me => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-system-settings/udm-rebuild/+merge/225486
[14:20] <mandel> seb128, is a rebuild with the new udm + updating the version in the control file
[14:20] <mterry> Cimi, you might want greyback to look at that
[14:21] <mandel> alecu, dobey can you do a simple review for https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/unity-scope-click/udm-rebuild/+merge/225487
[14:21] <seb128> mandel, why do you need to the requirement if there is no code change?
[14:21] <mandel> seb128, BI changes
[14:21] <mandel> seb128, ABI
[14:22] <alecu> mandel: looks good. Please add the click-scope test plan to your silo with that.
[14:22] <alecu> mandel: thanks!
[14:22] <mandel> alecu, yes, also, I have a nice surprise for you :)
[14:22] <alecu> mandel: board games in spanish?
[14:22]  * dobey has had enough surprises this week
[14:22] <alecu> :-)
[14:22] <seb128> mandel, well, the same code builds fine with the old abi
[14:23] <mterry> seb128, so the UI for changing passwords in system-settings doesn't fit well on the N4 screen with a keyboard.  I'm going to look into it, but is there any design guidance there?
[14:23] <mterry> *with the OSK
[14:23] <mandel> seb128, yes, that is why is a simple review, to keep you in the loop that I make the change and approve it so that I can add it in a silo with the new udm and we test them :)
[14:23] <seb128> mterry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone has the design
[14:24] <mandel> alecu, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/client-logging/view/head:/src/downloads/client/ubuntu/download_manager/logging/logger.h#L82
[14:24] <seb128> mandel, right, I don't approve that change though, I want to be able to rebuild u-s-s trunk on utopic which doesn't have the new u-d-m
[14:24] <mterry> seb128, OK, it tries to fit it all in
[14:24] <mterry> will see
[14:24] <seb128> mandel, no need to change the control, just land a no change rebuild in the same silo that you use for u-d-m
[14:24] <dobey> seb128: i needs fixinged it
[14:24] <seb128> dobey, ?
[14:24] <mandel> alecu, is not as good as board games in spanish
[14:25] <dobey> seb128: mandel's branch. i marked it needs fixing with a comment to not change the version dep, but just add a changelog entry
[14:25] <mandel> alecu, allows you to set the logging in the udm client lib so that you guys can provide a path to write too
[14:25] <mandel> dobey, seb128 ok, you you both, will undo the version number
[14:26] <seb128> dobey, mandel: why do you need a changelog entry?
[14:26] <dobey> mandel: and leave the changelog entry as "UNRELEASED" instead of changing that to "utopic" in the MP
[14:27] <dobey> seb128: because MPs that have no changes are silly and CI train needs MPs to include the project?
[14:28] <dobey> i hated getting all those empty MPs for the qt 5.2 migration :)
[14:28] <seb128> dobey, right, but we can as well pick an easy bugfix if we do a landing
[14:29] <mandel> seb128, dobey I just pushed a change to be using the version in the control file you had
[14:29] <mandel> dobey, what do you mean with the changelog entry? wont the ci bot do that?
[14:29] <dobey> seb128: unity-scope-click has a separate devel branch though.
[14:30] <dobey> mandel: i mean MPs that have no changes aren't MPs
[14:30] <seb128> dobey, we are speaking about ubuntu-system-settings there though
[14:30] <dobey> seb128: uh? no
[14:30] <mandel> seb128, and the click scope
[14:30] <dobey> seb128: i'm talking about https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/unity-scope-click/udm-rebuild/+merge/225487
[14:30] <mandel> seb128, you and I can deal with the ubuntu-system-settings as e want :)
[14:31] <seb128> right
[14:31] <mandel> dobey, ok, so what do you exactly want me to do in the scope mp?
[14:31] <mandel> seb128, so if you don't mind what the ci bot does, I already did what you mentioned and we are happy :)
[14:32] <dobey> mandel: run dch -i, and for the "*" line, change it to be "* No change rebuild for new ubuntu-download-manager." and fix your e-mail address if it's broken.
[14:33] <mandel> dobey, ack
[14:33] <ogra_> better set DEBEMAIL properly in your ~/.bashrc
[14:33] <mandel> my email is ok
[14:34] <dobey> it's your canonical e-mail?
[14:34] <mandel> yes, that is the one
[14:35] <mandel> dobey, pushed
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[14:37] <dobey> mandel: bien!
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[14:38] <PreSSion> hola gente
[14:38] <mandel> dobey, no problem
[14:43] <mandel> seb128, I updated the commit msg so that it makes more sense
[14:43] <mandel> seb128, if you give me the green light I'll try to get a silo and unblock the landing of the browser
[14:44] <seb128> mandel, we already have u-s-s in a silo, you can't get one atm, but otherwise seems ok
[14:44] <seb128> Laney, did you want a changelog entry or is an empty diff fine by you? (seems to work)
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[14:45] <gatox> hi.... does anyone know who i can ping to about Oxide?
[14:45] <seb128> gatox, chrisccoulson
[14:45] <gatox> seb128, thx!
[14:45] <seb128> gatox, yw!
[14:45] <gatox> chrisccoulson, ping
[14:46] <seb128> Laney, mterry: can you give a test to https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-004 ? it has an u-s-s landing with the pending change, which includes some of your work as well ;-)
[14:46] <Laney> seb128: if the changelog entry for the MP is "No-change rebuild for new udm" then whatevs ...
[14:46] <Laney> you should make sure to not list anything else in the silo until after udm is published there
[14:46] <seb128> Laney, yeah, it does that
[14:47] <seb128> Laney, you mean?
[14:47] <Laney> i'm assuming it's a transition
[14:47] <Laney> if you build everything at the same time then things will get the old abi
[14:49] <seb128> oh, right
[14:49] <cyphermox_> satoris: that's definitely a kernel driver bug
[14:49] <mandel> Laney, seb128  I usually do the following, build udm alone (just write the package name in the build of jenkins)
[14:49] <cyphermox_> but I already knew the wcnss driver was abysmal ;)
[14:49] <mandel> Laney, seb128 then build the rest so that it picks the correct udm from the silo
[14:49] <Laney> yes that works
[14:49] <chrisccoulson> gatox, wassup
[14:50] <seb128> +1
[14:50] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?
[14:50] <chrisccoulson> seb128, not too bad thanks. and you?
[14:50] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I'm good, thanks ;-)
[14:52] <gatox> chrisccoulson, hi, i'm using oxide to display a webpage that contains some combo boxes, that are clearly being modified with js, but when in my app i have Oxide like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742263/ the popup can not be expanded.... but the same page is working in the phone browser... do you know what configuration am i missing or something?
[14:52] <gatox> the combos can not be expanded i mean
[14:52] <chrisccoulson> gatox, yes, if you're using oxide directly (rather than UbuntuWebView), you need to implement WebView.popupMenu
[14:53] <gatox> chrisccoulson, ahh.. can i use UbuntuWebView just importing import com.canonical.Oxide 1.0 ??
[14:53] <chrisccoulson> I do plan to add some default auxiliary UI's for things like popup menus and JS dialogs at some point, but for now, those are provided by UbuntuWebView
[14:54] <gatox> chrisccoulson, can i use UbuntuWebView just importing com.canonical.Oxide 1.0?? or do i need something else?
[14:54] <chrisccoulson> I'm not sure which import you need. is it not in the developer docs? (also, oSoMoN will know that)
[14:54] <seb128> Laney, can you give a try to the settings on the phone? I don't have a working n4 with me to test
[14:54] <Laney> seb128: okay
[14:55] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[14:55] <oSoMoN> gatox, chrisccoulson: you should "import Ubuntu.Web 0.2" and use "WebView"
[14:55] <oSoMoN> gatox, chrisccoulson: the docs haven’t been published yet, it’s on my to-do list
[14:55] <gatox> chrisccoulson, can you point me to the dev docs?? i've looking at the code.... couldn't find any dev docs in the sdk page
[14:55] <gatox> chrisccoulson, oSoMoN, ack, thanks both! i'll try now
[15:04] <gatox> oSoMoN, i'm using  "import Ubuntu.Web 0.2" and use "WebView" now..... and the combos still not work.... any other setting i need to turn on or something/
[15:04] <gatox> ?
[15:04] <oSoMoN> gatox, what do you mean by the combos? can you elaborate on what you’re testing?
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[15:06] <gatox> oSoMoN, sorry... what i was talking with chrisccoulson .... i need to display a webpage that contains some combo boxes.... that page is working in the phone browser... but when i try to load the same page using WebView in an app, I press on the combos and nothing happend, it doesn't expand them or show a popup with the choices
[15:07] <oSoMoN> gatox, well it should work, let me test that real quick on my device
[15:08] <oSoMoN> gatox, just to make sure, by combo boxes you mean HTML <select> elements, right?
[15:08] <gatox> oSoMoN, i assume is that.... i'll try to see the code of the page in my desktop
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[15:35] <mhall119> oSoMoN: how close are we to having Oxide docs that can be published to production?
[15:35] <oSoMoN> mhall119, that close :)
[15:35] <mhall119> oSoMoN: is there a docs package for them?
[15:36] <oSoMoN> mhall119, it’s almost ready, but I’ve had to focus on urgent things lately, and this went into the backlog
[15:36] <oSoMoN> mhall119, no, is that needed?
[15:36] <mhall119> oSoMoN: it would make it easier
[15:37] <oSoMoN> mhall119, ok, I’ll add a work item for that
[15:37] <mhall119> my plan is to keep the development branch of the API docs in sync with the development release by regularly checking for new docs packages in the archives
[15:37] <oSoMoN> mhall119, I might be able to work on it tomorrow
[15:37] <mhall119> thanks oSoMoN
[15:38] <Saviq> hmm no wifi on flo?
[15:38] <oSoMoN> mhall119, is there an expected structure for the docs package?
[15:38] <oSoMoN> Saviq, works here, on image #111
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[15:39] <mhall119> oSoMoN: depends on the source format, I have importers for qdoc and doxygen's output
[15:39] <oSoMoN> mhall119, I’m using qdoc, but I meant, where do you want the package to install the docs?
[15:39] <mhall119> oSoMoN: /usr/share/doc/
[15:40] <oSoMoN> fair enough
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[15:40] <mhall119> oSoMoN: mandel has a docs package for u-d-m qdocs, you can just copy from him
[15:40] <oSoMoN> mhall119, thanks, I’ll check that
[15:41] <mandel> oSoMoN, in lp:ubuntu-download-manager/docs/qml/CMakeList.txt
[15:42] <Saviq> oSoMoN, must be me then
[15:42] <Saviq> thanks
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[16:09] <elopio> boiko: great! thanks.
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[16:29] <mterry> Any SDK knowledgeable-folks around?  I have a Dialog object that I want to not be covered by the OSK.  It doesn't seem like setting "MainView.anchorToKeyboard: true" is automatically fixing that for me.  Is there another way to control layout of the dialog?
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[17:54] <mterry> mpt, I'm looking at the password setting screens of ubuntu-system-settings and noticing that the swipe option appears to the user as if there is no password at all associated with the account -- that might be tricky from a technical point of view.  We can set an empty password for the user, but sudo won't accept that.  So unless we jump through some hoops, we'd be disabling ability to use sudo, which might be a problem?
[17:55] <mterry> mpt, (traditionally, Ubuntu allows no-password-login but still has a user password for authenticating in dialogs)
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[18:09] <popey> cjwatson: not sure why you got cc'ed on the RT I replied to there, sorry about that.
[18:12] <stgraber> mterry: ? our live media user and the default cloud instance users don't have passwords yet are perfectly capable of calling sudo
[18:12] <mterry> stgraber, do they just do NOPASSWD:ALL ?
[18:13] <mterry> stgraber, sudo doesn't *appear* to like an empty password without further configuration
[18:14] <mterry> The internet also suggests that policykit may not love it, though I haven't tested
[18:15] <stgraber> mterry: hmm, yeah, you're right, looks like cloud-init generates a sudoers.d file
[18:16] <mterry> stgraber, I could go down that route, but it doesn't thrill me
[18:18] <stgraber> and just confirmed, casper does the same trick for the live media...
[18:29] <cyphermox_> who do I need to ask to get prettier icons for bluetooth device types?
[18:30] <mterry> mdeslaur, I just filed https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/locking-hash/+merge/225538 with the updated logic for looking at PAM instead of the keyfile, FYI
[18:30] <mterry> mdeslaur, still some work to do on the ubuntu-system-settings side
[18:30] <mdeslaur> mterry: cool, I just pointed sarnold at it to review
[18:31] <mterry> mdeslaur, ok!
[18:31] <mterry> ah right, forgot sarnold did the actual review for the other
[18:31] <mdeslaur> mterry: thanks!
[18:31] <pmcgowan> cyphermox_, lets ask johnlea or jouni
[18:32] <pmcgowan> cyphermox_, tell me what you need and I will get them
[18:32] <mterry> mdeslaur, above on IRC, I was talking about how the UI for setting the password on the phone implies no password at all for the user if in swipe mode.   We can set the user's password to be blank, but sudo would need a sudoer's entry...  And I think policykit wouldn't like it.  Do you know more about the wisdom of doing that?
[18:34] <cyphermox_> pmcgowan: pretty much, symbolic icons for the bluetooth device types; as in the design:"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth#Listing_devices
[18:34] <cyphermox_> right now I'd use the icons shipped in other themes, but they're colored and some are pretty pixelated due to resizing
[18:36] <mdeslaur> mterry: hrm, sudo uses pam's common-auth, which has nullok_secure, so blank passwords should work
[18:36] <mdeslaur> mterry: I'll have to try it though
[18:37] <mdeslaur> not sure how mir works with ttys
[18:37] <pmcgowan> cyphermox_, ok will check on it
[18:37] <popey> pmcgowan: be quick, johnlea is on vacation soon
[18:37] <popey> maybe already
[18:37] <mterry> mdeslaur, oh interesting, it didn't work for me when I tried
[18:37] <pmcgowan> popey, ok, I have ways ;)
[18:37] <popey> heh
[18:38] <mdeslaur> mterry: nullok_secure looks into /etc/securetty to limit blank passwords from certain ttys, were you trying with mir?
[18:38] <mterry> mdeslaur, no
[18:38] <mterry> mdeslaur, just on my desktop in X
[18:38] <pmcgowan> cyphermox_, exactly which types do we need
[18:38] <cyphermox_> at least audio-headset, phone and computer, I think
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[18:39] <mdeslaur> mterry: sarnold can help you test and figure out what needs to be done
[18:39] <mterry> mdeslaur, my /etc/securetty is very long....
[18:39] <mterry> mdeslaur, OK, will bug him
[18:40] <mdeslaur> mterry: he's very friends and just loves getting bugged :)
[18:40] <mdeslaur> s/friends/friendly/
[18:40] <sarnold> :)
[18:40] <cyphermox_> pmcgowan: maybe others like input-keyboard and input-mouse
[18:41] <pmcgowan> cyphermox_, will those work? they were on the probably not doing list
[18:41] <cyphermox_> well right now they still show in the list, because the design says to show them insensitive rather than hiding them completely
[18:42] <cyphermox_> there are already icons for all of these, so maybe it can be later
[18:42] <pmcgowan> ok
[18:43] <cyphermox_> give me a second I'll get you a screen capture, to show what I mean and what the current state is
[18:43] <cyphermox_> at least audio-headset is going to be essential though
[18:44] <pmcgowan> yep, and do you show a phone for handsfree in the car?
[18:45] <cyphermox_> afaict we'd show a headset right now, we can discuss how we'd rather to show it
[18:46] <cyphermox_> currently, all audio get merged into headset, but I think the design document doesn't really mention it
[18:47] <pmcgowan> cyphermox_, my android differentiates them anyway
[18:47] <cyphermox_> ok, then let's differenciate
[18:48] <cyphermox_> I'm tempted to rip out some of the code for this stuff and see how it goes
[18:49] <cyphermox_> ugh, suck
[18:49] <cyphermox_> pmcgowan: I'll go through the bt definitions and try to come up with a list by email, we can decide what to do with the devices
[18:50] <pmcgowan> cyphermox_, sounds good
[18:50] <cyphermox_> there's tons of stuff https://www.bluetooth.org/en-us/specification/assigned-numbers/baseband
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[19:32] <cyphermox_> pmcgowan: doen
[19:32] <cyphermox_> *done
[19:37] <AlbertA> mterry: can I get top approval for https://code.launchpad.net/~albaguirre/unity-system-compositor/no-inactivity-handling-desktop/+merge/225537
[19:41] <mterry> AlbertA, po::bool_switch()->default_value(false) -- false isn't the default for bool switches?
[19:41] <AlbertA> mterry: just want to make sure :)
[19:41] <mterry> AlbertA, well you added it to one other bool() in the file, but not another bool()  :)
[19:41] <mterry> consistency!
[19:42] <AlbertA> mterry: oh missed it
[19:42] <AlbertA> public-socket?
[19:43] <mterry> AlbertA, yeah
[19:43] <mterry> AlbertA, also weird that we specify the default again in the get() call
[19:44] <AlbertA> mterry: yeah the public-socket is weird too
[19:44] <AlbertA> since it defaults to true
[19:44] <AlbertA> in l594
[19:44] <AlbertA> which seems weird for a boolean flag
[19:44] <AlbertA> if I switch it to bool_switch it won't let you do --public-socket=true
[19:45] <AlbertA> or --public-socket=false
[19:45] <mterry> AlbertA, er, then just leave things as they are then
[19:45] <mterry> AlbertA, maybe that means we shouldn't muck with other options
[19:45] <mterry> AlbertA, if it changes the command line API
[19:46] <AlbertA> so take off the bool_switch fron enable-hardware-cursor?
[19:47] <AlbertA> ok I'm switching them to just bool for consistency
[19:49] <mterry> AlbertA, yeah.  I'm fine with it on the new option
[19:49] <mterry> AlbertA, but for consistency, sure
[19:50] <AlbertA> mterry: ok done
[19:51] <mterry> AlbertA, this is all just for desktop, right?
[19:51] <AlbertA> right
[19:51] <mterry> AlbertA, don't you need to bump debian/changelog too?
[19:52] <AlbertA> mterry: because of the command line addition?
[19:53] <mterry> AlbertA, no because you bump the program version and change the "unity-system-compositor (<< 0.0.4)" lines -- why do you do that btw?
[19:53] <AlbertA> mterry: oh because that wasn't updated
[19:53] <AlbertA> mterry: it should have been updated before
[19:54] <AlbertA> they should have been bumped in 0.0.3 and 0.0.4
[19:54] <mterry> AlbertA, ah yes, we're on 0.0.4 now
[19:54] <mterry> AlbertA, but why the Replaces/Breaks?
[19:54] <AlbertA> because it should replace the previous versions...
[19:55] <AlbertA> which is not 0.0.1 any more
[19:55] <AlbertA> but 0.0.1, 0.0.2, 0.0.3
[19:55] <AlbertA> right?
[19:55] <mterry> AlbertA, naw I don't think that means what you think it menas
[19:55] <mterry> AlbertA, that's talking about when a package steals files from another
[19:55] <mterry> AlbertA, parts of it "replace" and "break" another package
[19:55] <AlbertA> mterry: oh I see
[19:56] <mterry> AlbertA, so just drop those two line changes
[19:56] <AlbertA> ok
[19:56] <mterry> AlbertA, but the CMake version change is good
[19:58] <AlbertA> mterry: ok dropped the 2 lines
[19:59] <mterry> AlbertA, approved!  Thanks
[19:59] <AlbertA> mterry: thanks!
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[20:39] <dpm_> robru_, hi! the changes in lp:reminders-app that I was mentioning in my e-mail have now landed. Would it be possible to get a silo assigned to build the account-plugin-evernote binary package from that branch and start testing the upload? Is there anything in particular I need to do to do the request?
[20:41] <robru_> dpm_ right so the way citrain works is you need an MP. it would have been easiest to just take your existing MP and build it in a silo. but since it landed you can make a null MP (eg, submit a branch that is a no-change copy of trunk, then submit an MP merging that branch back into trunk)
[20:42] <cwayne> robru_: hiya, any chance we could get a silo for ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks? (specifically for https://code.launchpad.net/~ethan.chang/ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks/remove-welcome-background/+merge/225431)
[20:42] <robru_> cwayne, is your request in the spreadsheet?
[20:43] <cwayne> robru_: nope, i seem to have lost my link to that spreadsheet, if you've got a link i'm happy to add it
[20:44] <robru_> cwayne, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain
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[20:45] <cwayne> robru: i've only got view-only on that
[20:46] <dpm_> robru, ah, I didn't know that. Ok, thanks, I'll try to do that. I've never done this no-change business, so it might take me a few mins. I'll come back to you once I've figured out and submitted the MP
[20:47] <robru> cwayne, sorry, added you
[20:47] <robru> dpm_, it's annoying but easy. just 'bzr branch lp:reminders-app null-merge; cd null-merge; bzr push lp:~/reminders-app/nullmerge' and then MP that branch
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[20:48] <robru> cwayne, ok just that one MP?
[20:48] <cwayne> robru: yeps
[20:48] <cwayne> easy peasy :)
[20:50] <robru> cwayne, ok you got silo 14, please build (link to the jenkins build job is on the spreadsheet page for silo 14)
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[20:58] <cwayne> robru: pressed go on the jenkins build job, not sure anything's happening yet but it's only been a few minutes
[21:01] <robru> cwayne, after you clicked it, wht happened? did it still show the same page with the build options form?
[21:01] <cwayne> robru: showed the same page but everything was blank again
[21:02] <robru> cwayne, yeah that means nothing happened, have to do it again
[21:03] <cwayne> ah there we go, i don't have permission...
[21:03] <robru> cwayne, what happened there was it redirected you to SSO login, which redirected you back to the build job form without triggering the build
[21:03] <robru> cwayne, bah, really? ok i'll build it
[21:04] <cwayne> sorry to be a pain :/
[21:04] <robru> cwayne, ok you can follow the build here: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-014-1-build/99/console
[21:05] <cwayne> gah failed, because it wasn't top-approved
[21:05] <cwayne> i thought my approved was enough, now top-approved
[21:07] <dpm_> robru, ok, created a MP with no changes on https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/account-plugin-evernote-upload/+merge/225572 - I'm not too sure about the versioning in debian/control, I'm guessing it will need changes before it goes into the archive?
[21:07] <dpm_> err, in *debian/changelog, I meant
[21:12] <robru> dpm_, sorry, what versioning? version number comes from debian/changelog
[21:15] <dpm_> robru, yeah, typo, corrected myself just afterwards ^
[21:15] <robru> oh sorry
[21:16] <robru> dpm_, the existing version for account-plugin-evernote is just '0' so whatever version reminders-app has will be fine.
[21:32] <robru> dpm_ sorry my network is just bs today
[21:33] <dpm_> robru, np, just updating debian/changelog on that MP
[21:33] <robru> dpm_, what? no don't. why?
[21:34] <dpm_> robru, ah, that was my question earlier. Ok, I'll undo, sorry
[21:34] <robru> dpm_, can you add a request to the landing sheet? https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFVHQ3FuMDJGLUZCamJfSjYzbWh3Wnc&pli=1#gid=0
[21:34] <robru> dpm_ ci train makes the changelog entry for you
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[21:37] <dpm_> robru, and how does it generate the package version number? The current debian/changelog version in the branch is based on an old bzr revision, so if it's picking that up, it would not be entirely right
[21:39] <robru> dpm_ it'll cut it off at the + and then add a new timestamp in there
[21:40] <robru> dpm_ so it'll be like 0.4+14.10.20140703-0ubuntu1
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[21:44] <dpm_> robru, ok, thanks for the clarification. So to add the request, I just add it to the Pending sheet? (sorry, first time I do a request)
[21:47] <ybon> nik90_: I confirm that I need to create *two* alarms to see the "clock" icon appear on the top notification bar
[21:48] <ybon> and the first one only appears as "Clock" in the time&date top menu
[21:50] <ybon> nik90_: http://i.imgur.com/j1fSt4e.png
[21:51] <ybon> ah no, "click" is always there
[21:51] <ybon> but I confirm I need to create two to have one appear in the menu, as shown in the screenshot
[21:51] <ybon> and to see the little "clock" in the top bar
[21:53] <dpm_> robru, anyway, I've added the entry there. Please let me know it it's all ok and if there is anything else I need to do. Thanks!
[21:55] <sergiusens> dpm_: do you know of any instructions to use online accounts provided in a click?
[21:55] <dpm_> sergiusens, afaik, that won't work until in a few month's time
[21:56] <sergiusens> dpm_: so for evernote it's only possible because it's a deb?
[21:56] <dpm_> UOA expect the provider, service, etc. files in /usr/share
[21:56] <dpm_> sergiusens, exactly
[21:56] <sergiusens> dpm I guess I'll have to go with the javascript route
[21:56] <sergiusens> unless, ping cwayne :-)
[21:57] <sergiusens> have you done oauth with golang?
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[21:57]  * sergiusens doesn't really want to learn the internals of oauth at all
[21:57] <dpm_> sergiusens, yeah, app authors have resorted to doing oauth within the app instead of using UOA so far :/
[21:58] <sergiusens> dpm_: well I've seen many apps allow auth through facebook et.al.; not really sure how that works in an app; but I might try that too
[21:58] <cwayne> sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/+junk/unity-scope-yelp-golang
[21:58] <sergiusens> cwayne: thanks!
[21:58] <dpm_> sergiusens, no idea how that'd work, either. Have you seen it in Ubuntu apps, you mean?
[21:59] <sergiusens> dpm_: no, I've seen it when logging in through the web :-)
[21:59] <sergiusens> dpm_: like tripit
[21:59] <dpm_> ahh, yes :)
[22:01] <cwayne> btw I'm close to giving up on UOA in apps
[22:01] <sergiusens> cwayne: that's cheating; the token dance has already been done there :-P
[22:01] <sergiusens> cwayne: personally, I think it doesn't really scale for apps
[22:02] <cwayne> sergiusens: it's just been such a PITA, I tried to do it for my fitbit app for like 8 months
[22:02] <sergiusens> oauth is mess IMO too, for native apps at least
[22:02] <cwayne> yep
[22:02] <sergiusens> *a*
[22:06] <pmcgowan> cwayne, what do we need to fix?
[22:06] <pmcgowan> seems somewhat critical to have
[22:07] <pmcgowan> click plugins for uoa?
[22:07] <cwayne> pmcgowan: the ability to package account-plugins as clicks in the store
[22:08] <pmcgowan> cwayne, or as part of the app maybe?
[22:08] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: or use them from withing your app
[22:08] <sergiusens> yeah, that's good enough
[22:08] <pmcgowan> its on the plan
[22:08] <pmcgowan> let me check on that
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[22:24] <robru> dpm_, ok sorry about that, meeting got crazy. just looking at your landing request now
[22:24] <dpm_> robru, np, thanks!
[22:24] <robru> dpm_, so yeah, there isn't a way to build a source package and only selectively upload binary packages, the way the archive works is that you upload the source package and it builds the binary packages and then those binary packages go into ubuntu.
[22:25] <robru> dpm_, that said, however, if you have an unwanted 'reminders-app' debian package in the archive, that's not actually going to conflict with the click app in any meaningful way
[22:25] <robru> dpm_, you just have to coordinate your releases, so that the source package gets released close to the same time as your click package gets uploaded, in the even that you're making a change to the account-plugin-evernote that you depend on in the click package
[22:26] <dpm_> robru, ack, sounds good
[22:27] <dpm_> robru, yeah, that's the plan in this case too. We've been holding off the click package upload until the account-plugin-evernote package gets uploaded
[22:27] <robru> dpm_, ok, it's building in silo 13 now: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-013-1-build/58/console
[22:28] <dpm_> perfect
[22:28] <robru> dpm_, oops, this one: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-013-1-build/59/console
[22:28] <dpm_> ok, np :)
[22:28] <robru> hmmmm
[22:29] <dpm_> oh, so perhaps we do need to change the debian version?
[22:30] <robru> dpm_, ok, not sure what's going on with that error, this must be a new regression because citrain used to be smarter than that. can you try in your MP making a new entry in debian/changelog that looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/7744283/
[22:35] <dpm_> robru, ok. Here's the full changelog. I'm going to push that change to the MP. Does this look ok? Also I should leave release as UNRELEASED? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7744295/
[22:36] <robru> dpm_, yep, leave as unreleased
[22:36] <robru> dpm_, looks good, citrain *should* handle the version number and changing it to say 'utopic'
[22:37] <robru> (but then, it should have already done that, not sure why it's being fussy)
[22:38] <dpm_> robru, ok, change pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/account-plugin-evernote-upload/+merge/225581
[22:38] <robru> dpm_, looks good, thanks
[22:38] <dpm_> awesome
[22:39] <robru> dpm_, third try is the charm? ;-) https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-013-1-build/60/console
[22:39] <dpm_> yay
[22:45] <robru> dpm_, ugh
[22:45] <robru> oh wait
[22:46] <robru> dpm_, you're missing .bzr-builddeb/default.conf which should contain: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/friends/view/head:/.bzr-builddeb/default.conf
[22:46] <dpm_> ok, on it
[22:49] <dpm_> robru, ok, pushed the change
[22:49] <robru> dpm_, ok, sorry about all this, this one HAS to work ;-) https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-013-1-build/61/console
[22:49] <dpm_> np :)
[22:50]  * dpm_ crosses fingers
[23:02] <cjwatson> popey: I'm CCed on all UE tickets
[23:02] <cjwatson> popey: nobody needs to apologise for it
[23:26] <dpm_> robru, I've added a comment to silo 13 in the spreadsheet. It seems that the packages did not build quite correctly. Would you have any ideas?
[23:27] <robru> dpm_, uh, sounds like a problem with dh_exec
[23:27] <dpm_> yeah
[23:28] <dpm_> perhaps it cannot be used in the silo builders? If not, is there another alternative?
[23:28] <robru> dpm_, nope, silos are just PPA and silo builders are PPA builders.
[23:30] <robru> dpm_, unfortunately I don't know a lot about dh-exec
[23:30] <dpm_> argh, I really need to go now, will have to continue investigating tomorrow
[23:30] <dpm_> thanks robru
[23:30] <robru> dpm_, ok sorry, I'll poke at it a bit myself
[23:30] <dpm_> thanks a lot
[23:30] <dpm_> no love, debian packaging