[00:56] <bluesabre> knome: maybe add an ability to favorite wallpapers/folders/sections that show in a Favorites view
[00:57] <knome> bluesabre, maybe, but just being able to show stuff in subdirs would work for me
[00:58] <bluesabre> like ochosi mentioned, that could create a mess
[00:58] <bluesabre> what if you choose /
[00:58] <bluesabre> then it would walk your entire filesystem/mounted shares/etc
[00:58] <Unit193> Or even ~/Pictures/ ?
[00:59] <bluesabre> I think a favorites implementation, or a way to add predefined directories to a dropdown: ~/Pictures, /usr/share/backdrops, /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops
[01:00] <bluesabre> instead of just browse
[01:00] <bluesabre> but yeah, a library that walks ~/Pictures would not be bad
[01:00] <bluesabre> except localization
[01:00] <bluesabre> unless there is some fancy xdg for that
[01:00] <bluesabre> ':)
[01:06] <knome> bluesabre, well you can symlink / to ~/Pictures, duh!
[01:08] <bluesabre> oh, that'd be fun
[01:08] <bluesabre> ;)
[01:14] <knome> well,
[01:15] <knome> it isn't long when i last saw / symlinked to a directory that was publicly shown in the internet
[01:15] <knome> on a commercial internet host
[01:17] <bluesabre> oh, that's lovely
[01:18] <knome> yes
[01:18] <knome> i just cleaned up a site on that host from some injected files this week
[01:23] <bluesabre> sounds like fun
[01:23] <knome> mhm
[02:05] <Unit193> knome, ochosi: apt-offline is broken right now, hopefully it'll be fixed before release.
[02:23] <Noskcaj> Unit193, How is it broken?
[02:23] <Noskcaj> debian git and bts have many fixes that could be taken
[02:23] <Unit193> Git works, yeah.
[03:29] <Unit193> I of course quickly packaged it and called it 1.3.2. :P
[09:13] <ochosi> Unit193: sounds good :) but let's keep it on the radar. basically i think there's nothing much we can do if 3rd party apps break (apart from hoping that upstream will fix them, or if they're horribly broken and there's little chance of getting fixed, we take them off the image)
[09:14] <ochosi> re: geary, i wouldn't mind trying to ship Xubuntu once with !ff and geary
[09:14] <Unit193> Eww. :3
[09:14] <ochosi> although ppl generally seem to be happy with the mozilla suite
[09:16] <Unit193> What would you ship with?  Midori?  And I was really asking in passing, just happened to see the one that was released a couple days ago uploaded.
[09:16] <ochosi> possibly midori or chromium
[09:17] <ochosi> thing is, as long as it's not an LTS release, i think we can try out other apps
[09:17] <ochosi> we have been pretty conservative in the past, which is a good thing mostly
[09:17] <ochosi> but i think we should focus more on lts releases and use the meantime to experiment a little more
[09:18] <Noskcaj> midori in ubuntu is a bit ancient
[09:18] <Unit193> s/ubuntu/Debian and Ubuntu/
[09:19] <Noskcaj> yeah
[09:30] <ochosi> that sounds like it should be resolved anyway :)
[09:30] <Unit193> ochosi: It is in git, see my last comment on the subject.
[09:31] <Noskcaj> Just FYI, http://api.yr.no/weatherapi/locationforecastlts/1.1/documentation#version_1_2___2014_05_20
[09:32] <Noskcaj> weather-plugin will break on 2014-10-07
[09:32] <Unit193> Git fixes it too.
[09:33] <Noskcaj> yeah, but not the broken icon themes
[09:33] <Unit193> I see.
[09:33] <ochosi> broken icon themes?
[09:33] <ochosi> oh crap
[09:33] <ochosi> more icons
[09:33] <Noskcaj> read I'll upload a patched version to utopic later this week 
[09:33] <ochosi> they really suck
[09:34] <Noskcaj> crap
[09:34] <Noskcaj> http://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/commit/?id=1ff71669644a0b824a8a5ba9b40771ee4fb8a76b
[09:34] <ochosi> it was already so hard to draw those icons as complex as they were...
[09:34] <Noskcaj> I'll upload a patched version to utopic later this week, so we've plenty of time to test before it goes to trusty
[09:34] <Unit193> It's got time, don't rush it.
[09:35] <ochosi> yeah, and after all, it's only the weather plugin...
[09:35] <ochosi> i'll sit down with hjudt next week probably or at a later time (in person) and discuss it with him
[09:35] <ochosi> so really, no rush
[09:35] <ochosi> i might even draw the missing icons
[09:36] <Noskcaj> I'm just trying to get stuff done during the school holidays, but understood
[09:37] <ochosi> sure, it's appreciated
[09:37] <ochosi> anyway, g2g, bbl
[09:39]  * Noskcaj resumes attempting to learn C and reading game of thrones
[09:39] <knome> that's not going to happen at the same time
[09:44] <Noskcaj> it's past 7:30, so the former isn't really allowed (because computer)
[11:01] <brainwash> is the bug bounty program still being discussed? any news?
[11:01] <ochosi> there was never a single reply to my proposal
[11:02] <ochosi> so no, no news
[11:02] <brainwash> ok
[11:12] <ochosi> knome: right, i can confirm that annoying bug with the window borders and intel drivers now...
[11:13] <bluesabre> which one?
[11:13] <ochosi> the one where the window borders look garbled (striped etc)
[11:13] <bluesabre> oh right
[11:13] <bluesabre> I thought that was just my chipset
[11:13] <ochosi> some odd interaction between xfwm4 and X11
[11:13] <ochosi> actually it first showed up in 13.10 or 13.04
[11:13] <ochosi> but it was "backported" down to 12.04 even
[11:13] <ochosi> then it got fixed, now it resurfaced obviously
[11:14] <bluesabre> must be nice
[11:14] <bluesabre> I troll #ubuntu-devel daily with this, nobody wants to backport it down
[11:14] <bluesabre> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/menulibre/+bug/1323405
[11:14] <ochosi> yeah, i saw
[11:14] <ochosi> might have to wait for your upload rights then :(
[11:14] <knome> ochosi, yep.
[11:15] <knome> bluesabre, it's a bit crappy, but it's not stopping me from doing work.
[11:15] <knome> or anything
[11:15] <knome> it simply does not break any functionality
[11:15] <bluesabre> yeah, and it goes away if you move the window around
[11:16] <ochosi> yeah, any sort of redraw seems to fix it
[11:16] <knome> yeah, but that kind of sucks even more
[11:16] <knome> if it were consistently broken i think i might be a bit happier...
[11:16] <bluesabre> ochosi can probably provide a fixed theme to make it always appear broken for you
[11:17] <knome> haha
[11:17] <knome> well i guess i could provide that myself
[11:17] <ochosi> yeah, i guess i can also provide one that works around the problem
[11:17] <bluesabre> there you go ;)
[11:17] <ochosi> it's actually fairly easy
[11:17] <knome> ;)=
[11:17] <knome> ochosi, larger borders again?
[11:17] <ochosi> seems so...
[11:17] <knome> bah
[11:18] <ochosi> well there's really no alternative (other than getting that stupid bug fixed somehow)
[11:18] <knome> :)
[12:18] <ali1234> um... about menulibre
[12:19] <ali1234> it doesn't work properly... at all
[12:33] <bluesabre> ali1234: running to work, but which version... fixed tons of things in 2.0.4
[12:34] <bluesabre> bbl
[12:40] <ali1234> 2.0.3 i guess
[19:45] <elfy> ochosi: so when is the next team meeting>
[22:29] <slickymaster> ochosi: in case you've forget http://xubuntu.org/?p=2548
[22:35] <knome> *forgot
[22:35] <knome> or is it forgotten
[22:37] <slickymaster> right you are knome, right you are
[22:46] <ochosi> slickymaster: i think we can get rid of the dependencies
[22:47] <ochosi> also, skip the "how to install" part, it'll be included by default
[22:47] <ochosi> the "what is", "how to" and "how to in irc" are good to go i guess
[22:47] <slickymaster> so, just a pratical FAQ block
[22:47] <ochosi> yeah
[22:48] <slickymaster> ok, in a second you'll have it
[22:48] <ochosi> i'm wondering though whether there are too many examples
[22:48] <ochosi> and there is a bit of inconsistency between "hard drive" and "Hard Drive"
[22:49] <ochosi> since you lowercased everything else, i guess lowercase it should be
[22:49] <ochosi> Unit193: any thoughts on which examples could be dropped or even merged? ^
[22:51] <slickymaster> ochosi: those examples would be the most used/needed ones
[22:51] <slickymaster> for what inixi is aimed at
[22:51] <slickymaster> *inxi
[22:51] <ochosi> alright
[22:51] <slickymaster> anyway, it's done
[22:52] <ochosi> the -o part is also a bit repetetitive
[22:52] <ochosi> it seems to do the same in xchat and weechat
[22:52] <ochosi> so no need to explain it multiple times
[22:52] <slickymaster> the command syntax is diferent
[22:53] <slickymaster> in weechat
[22:53] <ochosi> yeah, but the -o option is explained multiple times is what i mean
[22:53] <slickymaster> oh
[22:53] <ochosi> whereas the real difference, the -bx part, is not explained
[22:54] <slickymaster> yeah, you're right it's redundant 
[22:54] <ochosi> or is that supposed to say -<option> instead?
[22:54] <ochosi> also, since irssi and xchat are the same, just write: "XChat, irssi and most other clients"
[22:54] <ochosi> and merge the two
[22:54] <slickymaster> the -bx parameters do the exact same thing the -<option> parameters
[22:55] <slickymaster> ok
[22:55] <ochosi> what are "bx" parameters? do you have to add "bx" and then the options?
[22:55] <slickymaster> no, just -bx
[22:55] <ochosi> i mean, the example doesn't show where the user is supposed to put the options
[22:56] <ochosi> e.g. if i want to run "inxi -ni" in weechat, i guess i'd have to do "/shell -o inxi -ni | pastebinit", no?
[22:56] <ochosi> or "/shell -o inxi -bxni | pastebinit"?
[22:57] <slickymaster> yes
[22:57] <slickymaster> I see what you mean now
[22:57] <ochosi> so actually the syntax is the same with all of them, apart from s/shell/exec/
[22:58] <slickymaster> basically
[23:01] <ochosi> Unit193: could you plz add the meeting to the cal? thanks!
[23:02] <ochosi> slickymaster: gotta get some sleep now, but i can review it again tomorrow or whenever you're done with it
[23:02] <ochosi> feel free to also ask knome or Unit193 if i'm not around
[23:02] <ochosi> night everyone!
[23:02] <slickymaster> done ochosi 
[23:02] <slickymaster> nighty ochosi c