[06:19] <DanChapman> Good Morning all
[06:29] <DanChapman> nik90_: hey so i started to look at the clock app cmake last night then noticed gang65/Bartosz has a recent branch for it, is that still active and in progress? I don't want to be stepping on anyones toes, so thought i would ask before proceeding
[06:39] <dholbach> good morning
[06:43] <nhaines> dholbach: good morning. :)
[06:50] <dholbach> hi nhaines
[06:52] <justCarakas> good morning all
[06:57] <dpm> morning dholbach
[06:58] <dholbach> hola dpm
[06:58] <dpm> hola hola
[06:58] <dpm> dholbach, do you have a few minutes for a question on packaging?
[06:58] <dholbach> dpm, sure sure
[06:58] <dpm> cool, so quick context first
[06:59] <dpm> I'm trying to build a package that switches the evernote account to use production servers (we're using development so far)
[06:59] <dpm> the change has landed in trunk
[06:59] <dholbach> right
[07:00] <dpm> trunk has got a debian folder where packages are built from
[07:00] <dpm> and that works as expected locally and on a PPA
[07:00] <dholbach> cool
[07:00] <dpm> now I'm trying to get that uploaded to the archive, so I talked to the ci train team, got a silo assigned
[07:01] <dpm> and the package built in a silo's PPA
[07:01] <dpm> however, it inexplicably failed
[07:01] <dholbach> do you have a link to the log?
[07:01] <dpm> but I thing I tracked why
[07:01] <dpm> *think
[07:01] <dpm> yeah, although I didn't mean the build failed, here's what happened:
[07:02] <dpm> the build succeeded
[07:02] <dpm> but the package uses dh-exec to expand ${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH} in debian/*.install files
[07:03] <dpm> what failed is that the expansion did not happen, so I end up with a .deb that contains files in /usr/lib/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH} (unexpanded)
[07:03] <dholbach> do you have a link to the source package?
[07:04] <dpm> dholbach, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-013
[07:04] <dholbach> thanks
[07:04] <dpm> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-013/+files/reminders-app_0.4%2B14.10.20140703-0ubuntu1.dsc
[07:04] <dpm> I've tracked it down to the diff.gz file not carrying the +x flag of the .install file
[07:05] <dpm> the .install file must be set as executable for dh-exec to work
[07:05] <dpm> I've been told I should move to source format 3.0
[07:06] <dpm> which generates the diff as a diff.tar.gz
[07:07] <dpm> but there are 2 things I don't understand: why is a diff.gz generated at all, if I've only got a branch with the code? What is the diff against?
[07:07] <dpm> and then what should I use 3.0 (native) or 3.0 (quilt)?
[07:07] <dholbach> dpm, it's a diff against the orig.tar.gz
[07:08] <dholbach> or diff on top of the orig tarball
[07:08] <dholbach> to separate out the packaging
[07:08] <dpm> ah, and the generation of orig.tar.gz effectively removes the debian folder, then?
[07:08] <dholbach> the debian/ dir should not be part of the orig tarball, yes
[07:08] <dpm> ok, gotcha
[07:08] <dholbach> I think for autolanding the rule is to not have debian/source/format
[07:09] <dholbach> let me toy around with it for a bit
[07:09]  * dpm hugs dholbach
[07:10] <dpm> dholbach,  if it helps, this is the branch that contains the code: https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/account-plugin-evernote-upload/+merge/225581 (it was supposed to be a non-change MP, but I had to change the packaging version and other things as instructed by robru to make the ci-train happy)
[07:12] <dholbach> ok cool - I'll get back to you in a bit
[07:14] <dpm> thank you!
[07:16] <dholbach> dpm, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7745831/
[07:16] <dholbach> dpm, not sure if it's the best way to do it, or the most elegant, but it works :)
[07:18] <dpm> dholbach, what I like on that sentence is the "it works" bit :)
[07:18] <dholbach> thought so ;-)
[07:19] <dpm> dholbach, I'm happy with that, but to understand it: so you would recommend against modifying the debian/source file to migrate to 3.0?
[07:19] <dholbach> dpm, at least AFAIUI for the autolanding to work, you have to keep debian/source/format empty - that's at least how it was last time I checked the docs... so it might even be that this is how you have to do it for now
[07:20] <dholbach> Robert, Timo, Didier, Sébastien and others would know for sure - I can try to dig out the link again
[07:21] <dholbach> ok... found it
[07:21] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/InlinePackaging
[07:21] <dholbach> step 1)
[07:21] <dholbach> $ rm -rf debian/patches debian/source
[07:21] <dholbach> so yes
[07:23] <dholbach> dpm, want to chat a bit on the phone?
[07:23] <dpm> dholbach, sure, thanks. Let me try to push that change to the MP first
[07:23] <dholbach> ok ok
[07:27] <dpm> dholbach, does it look ok to you? -> https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/account-plugin-evernote-upload/+merge/225581
[07:29] <dpm> dholbach, other than that, then all set for a call
[07:49] <dholbach> dpm, yep, AFAICS it's looking good
[07:49] <dpm> awesome, thanks
[08:14] <dpm> lol, http://www.programmerexcuses.com/
[08:14] <dpm> I should probably start ticking how many of those I've used already
[08:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy US Independence Day! :-D
[08:17] <kalikiana> t1mp: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/englishButtons/+merge/225610
[08:26] <dpm> morning mzanetti, would you be able to install account-plugin-evernote from silo 13 and confirm that it works? I've tested it myself, but it'd be good to get an extra +1: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFVHQ3FuMDJGLUZCamJfSjYzbWh3Wnc&pli=1#gid=31
[08:26] <mzanetti> dpm: sure
[08:27] <dpm> awesome, thanks
[08:36] <dpm> popey, could you start preparing a click for reminders' trunk when you've got a minute?
[08:37] <t1mp> kalikiana: is that a pre for your localization branch?
[08:38] <kalikiana> t1mp: no, just staging. which currently for me fails due to localization
[08:38] <kalikiana> as the buttons will say Anrufen
[08:39] <popey> dpm: sure.
[08:39] <dpm> cool cool
[08:40] <t1mp> kalikiana: for now I'll first debug the landing branch before happroving new stuff if you don't mind
[08:40] <popey> click for 172 is built
[08:40] <popey> that what you want, right?
[08:40] <kalikiana> t1mp: that's why I saw it, as it is in landing ;-)
[08:41] <kalikiana> and false positives are rather annoying
[08:41] <t1mp> kalikiana: does that branch fix something in the landing tests that zoltan is running? or only for you?
[08:41] <dpm> popey, indeed. Can you pass it on to me and I'll upload it? We'll have to wait for the account-plugin-evernote archive upload before approving for the store
[08:42] <kalikiana> t1mp: it does fix errors in the landing branch if I run them
[08:45] <popey> dpm: k
[08:49] <JoeyChan> Hello geeks,  I previously using a script to run my c++ project on my Nexus, now it said "QUbuntu: Could not create application instance
[08:49] <JoeyChan> "
[08:50] <JoeyChan> the original script is from reminder-app
[09:13] <fuzzywhirlpool> Hi there.
[09:29] <mzanetti> dpm: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFVHQ3FuMDJGLUZCamJfSjYzbWh3Wnc&pli=1#gid=31
[09:30] <dpm> mzanetti, awesome, let's...
[09:30] <dpm>  ____  _   _ ___ ____    ___ _____ _
[09:30] <dpm> \___ \| |_| || || |_) |  | |  | | | |
[09:30] <dpm>  ___) |  _  || ||  __/   | |  | | |_|
[09:30] <dpm> |____/|_| |_|___|_|     |___| |_| (_)
[09:30] <mzanetti> lol
[09:31] <mzanetti> JoeyChan: hey, the issue is most likely that your .desktop file is not within ApplicationDirPath
[09:31] <mzanetti> JoeyChan: I've reported this yesterday
[09:32] <mzanetti> JoeyChan: for now, change your script to pass one of the .desktop files from /usr/share/applications/ in --desktop_file_hint
[09:33] <JoeyChan> mzanetti: ok  let me see
[09:34] <justCarakas> is google also down for you guys ?
[09:35] <justCarakas> its working again :p got a 500 for 2 min :p
[09:36] <mzanetti> works for me (TM)
[09:39] <mzanetti> t1mp: hey, I have a few issues with the new header, now that I tried to switch over some of my apps. I can't figure how to open a Popover when tapping on an Action and position that correctly
[09:39] <davmor2> dpm: Lets DHIP IT! ;)
[09:39] <mzanetti> t1mp: it opens, but the pointer points to the upper left corner, not to the action
[09:39] <dpm> davmor2, yeah, a bit of a #fail with pasting :)
[09:39] <mzanetti> I've also tried to explicitly set pointerTarget, but doesn't help
[09:41] <mzanetti> dpm: doesn't really look like an S with monospace fonts either :P
[09:41] <JoeyChan> mzanetti:  thx it work  :)
[09:41] <JoeyChan> mzanetti:  but why can't I use my own .desktop file ?
[09:42] <mzanetti> JoeyChan: a bug
[09:42] <mzanetti> JoeyChan: you can use your own if you copy it to /usr/share/applications/ or ~/.local/share/applications/
[09:42] <dpm> mzanetti, I'm very tempted to paste it again, but I don't want to spam again with ASCII art :D
[09:43] <JoeyChan> mzanetti: oh,  let me try
[09:48] <t1mp> mzanetti: there is no support for that. The popover needs an Item to point to (Action is not an Item)
[09:48] <t1mp> mzanetti: you can add a lot of actions to the header, and those that don't fit will automatically be put in popover
[09:49] <mzanetti> t1mp: yeah, I tried making it point to the wrapping ToolbarItem, but doesn't work either
[09:49] <mzanetti> t1mp: but I need a popover menu :/
[09:49] <mzanetti> t1mp: basically I have like 3 icons in there already, and each of them needs to open another popover
[09:49] <mzanetti> t1mp: we're not talking about apps with just 1 feature here :P
[09:50] <JoeyChan> mzanetti:  lol   now works perfectly      thx very much
[09:51] <mzanetti> yw
[09:51] <t1mp> mzanetti: the ToolbarItem is no longer used, that's just there to still support the old toolbar API
[09:51] <mzanetti> t1mp: ah ok... so I could drop that... cool.
[09:51] <t1mp> mzanetti: we are currently trying to land the new header API (old one will still work though) where you can simply give a list of Actions (no more ToolbarItems needed)
[09:51] <mzanetti> +1 on that
[09:51] <t1mp> mzanetti: until we land the new header API you still need to have the ToolbarItem in there
[09:52] <mzanetti> t1mp: still I guess the issue with the Popover in those persists
[09:52] <t1mp> mzanetti: yes
[09:52] <mzanetti> t1mp: any other suggestion what to do?
[09:52] <mzanetti> t1mp: example is: I have an Action called "Power"
[09:52] <mzanetti> t1mp: and the popover would open a menu with "Shutdown", "Suspend", ...
[09:52] <t1mp> mzanetti: design doesn't like multiple popovers from the header, and there is a proposal for new visuals which replaces the popover by something that looks more like it is part of the header
[09:53] <t1mp> mzanetti: it is possible to open a popover, with "null" as its target. The popover will then be centered in the screen with no pointer
[09:53] <mzanetti> t1mp: ok... I don't really care how it looks visually... but I don't really have a place to put the actions
[09:53] <t1mp> mzanetti: another option is a Dialog
[09:53] <mzanetti> yeah... thought about the dialog
[09:53] <t1mp> mzanetti: or you have an action that pushes a new Page on a PageStack which shows Shutdown/Suspend/...
[09:54] <mzanetti> hmm... didn't think of that yet
[09:54] <t1mp> mzanetti: let's try to involve someone from the design team
[09:54] <mzanetti> t1mp: I can elaborate a bit more on my use case (providing some screenshots how it works with the deprecatedToolbar)
[09:54] <t1mp> mzanetti: I'm not against adding support for multiple popovers if there are use cases and designs, but perhaps there are better/cleaner ways to do it
[10:02] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: hello
[10:02] <giorgioventuri> t1mp: hi
[10:02] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: currently tabs in the header open a popover on the left, and if there are too many actions, there will be an action overflow button on the right that opens another popover
[10:02] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: personally I think that's good :)
[10:03] <giorgioventuri> t1mp that's correct
[10:03] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: mzanetti has a use case where he likes several buttons in the header that each open a different popover
[10:03] <mzanetti> t1mp: giorgioventuri: here's an example:
[10:03] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: there are alternatives: 1. Open a popover in the center of the screen without a pointer pointing to the header button, 2. A dialog instead of a popover 3. The action opens a new page (pushes the Page on the PageStack) that shows the additional actions there
[10:04] <mzanetti> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/07/04/plasma-desktopRh8061.png
[10:04] <mzanetti> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/07/04/plasma-desktopuv8061.png
[10:04] <mzanetti> i.e. there' 3 items in the toolbar
[10:04] <mzanetti> each one produces a popover with more entries, (depending on how many audio streams, subtitiles etc the movie has)
[10:04] <t1mp> mzanetti: more, subtitle, audio track?
[10:05] <mzanetti> yeah
[10:05] <t1mp> mzanetti: there is a problem with header actions opening a popover. If there are too many actions in the header, some automatically go in the overflow popover, so then you could have an action in the popover opening another popover
[10:06] <mzanetti> yeah... just realized that too
[10:06] <mzanetti> that wouldn't be nive
[10:06] <mzanetti> nice
[10:06] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: are there any design guidelines on how to solve this?
[10:07] <giorgioventuri> in general, we should provide a solid pattern for actions in apps
[10:07] <mzanetti> otoh, if the popover in the header is going away and more looking like the dash departments
[10:07] <mzanetti> then it would work fine
[10:07] <giorgioventuri> the pattern solves 99% of the use cases
[10:07] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: hmm.. an idea, could the header sections help out with this?
[10:07] <giorgioventuri> but if you look at the browser, which has a custom header, it has an action that opens a popover: 'bookmark'
[10:07] <mzanetti> t1mp: if you have a recently flashed device, go to the scopes scope, open the amazon scope and check out the submenu below the header
[10:07] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: if there was only the subtitle or audio track I guess that could go there
[10:08] <mzanetti> t1mp: there can be any number of audio tracks (just having a bad example here)
[10:08] <t1mp> mzanetti: what do you mean bookmark? I see "All departments" and under that a list of departmens and items to buy
[10:09] <mzanetti> t1mp: also, when xbmc plays music, the items change to repeat and shuffle, having 2 or 3 submenus too
[10:09] <mzanetti> t1mp: yeah, that "All departments" menu... you can expand it, navigate to subcategories etc
[10:09] <t1mp> mzanetti: that might be something to put in the bottom-edge swipe?
[10:09] <t1mp> mzanetti: hmm... there is a bottom edge available also when you move stuff to the header
[10:10] <mzanetti> t1mp: hmm... I had other plans for the bottom edge... but I can rethink those
[10:10] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: the browser in the image still has the toolbar at the bottom
[10:10] <giorgioventuri> t1mp: mzanetti: sorry guys, what is the problem we are trying to solve here? the general pattern or this specific app
[10:10] <mzanetti> imo more the general pattern...
[10:11] <mzanetti> as in, right now we can't really have groups of actions
[10:11] <giorgioventuri> ok, the general pattern is that actions don't open popovers
[10:11] <t1mp> mzanetti: I think in general it is good the way we have it now
[10:11] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: and I think that is a good pattern, which doesn't confuse the user
[10:11] <giorgioventuri> but I can see use cases where you want to have custom headers
[10:12] <giorgioventuri> special use cases like image editors for example
[10:12] <mzanetti> ah right... the gallery app seems to have the same issue
[10:12] <giorgioventuri> we need to look at these special use cases
[10:12] <giorgioventuri> mzanetti: is the app you are pointing to in he Ubuntu store?
[10:13] <mzanetti> giorgioventuri: yes. however, you need to install xbmc to be able to get to those screens
[10:13] <mzanetti> giorgioventuri: xbmc on a pc, then connect to it with that app
[10:13] <mzanetti> the app is called xbmcremote
[10:13] <giorgioventuri> I see
[10:13] <giorgioventuri> I have XBMC on my computer at home, not here
[10:14] <mzanetti> giorgioventuri: then its about time you start using the best remote control app for it :P
[10:14] <t1mp> mzanetti: what's the problem with the gallery app?
[10:14] <giorgioventuri> can we hang out and screen share? that might be easier
[10:14] <t1mp> mzanetti: ah gallery-app has a popover for "Edit" and "Share"
[10:14] <mzanetti> yeo
[10:14] <mzanetti> yep
[10:15] <t1mp> I don't know if there is a new design for gallery-app that uses the header instead of toolbar
[10:15] <t1mp> giorgioventuri: ^ do you know?
[10:15] <mzanetti> well, I guess the plan is to eventually get away with the deprecated toolbar, no?
[10:15] <giorgioventuri> t1mp: we haven't touch it yet, it's on our hit list though
[10:16] <t1mp> mzanetti: the easiest for you now is I think to use a popover without a target so there is no pointer
[10:16] <mzanetti> t1mp: yeah, didn't have the idea to try without parent
[10:17] <t1mp> mzanetti: but I don't know if that is the best final solution..
[10:17] <mzanetti> t1mp: but yes, I agree, I'll go with that for now and wait what design people come up with for the gallery app
[10:17] <mzanetti> and then follow that approach
[10:17] <t1mp> mzanetti: its your friday afternoon project?
[10:17] <mzanetti> t1mp: no... its just a spare time app
[10:17] <mzanetti> but I don't want to ping you about such issues on sunday morning... so that's why I'm here now
[10:18] <giorgioventuri> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gvdlswlhegfs2cken54sobvqfaa
[10:18] <t1mp> mzanetti: there will be an additional way to quickly change options, I'm going to work on adding a list of options to the header divider, where you can swipe it to quickly switch between the options
[10:18] <t1mp> mzanetti: it is fine to ping on sunday morning
[10:18] <t1mp> mzanetti: but probably I won't reply ;) since I'm offline
[10:33] <mzanetti> t1mp: one other thing I noticed: seems the actions don't adjust the icon's color to the title color. known or should I file a bug for it?
[10:34] <t1mp> mzanetti: known, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1317816
[10:35] <t1mp> mzanetti: the bug mentions only the tabs drawer, but I'll update it because it goes for all header icons
[10:35] <mzanetti> yep
[10:47] <giorgioventuri> mzanetti: ping me when you are ready
[10:48] <mzanetti> giorgioventuri: I got it to run now...
[10:48] <mzanetti> if it fits for you, we can have the hangout it now
[10:48] <giorgioventuri> sure
[10:48] <giorgioventuri> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/grndp4li2j5spj3zupnkycmcyia
[10:51] <nik90_> popey: want to go hunting for a cmake person?>
[10:52] <popey> heh.
[10:52] <popey> DanChapman: you still about? ☻
[10:52] <nik90_> popey: btw regarding bug 1333299, we need to wait until 17:00 to check if the recurring alarm went of?
[10:53] <popey> nik90_: no, i had another recurring alarm on another device
[10:53] <popey> 06:46, wakey wakey
[10:53] <nik90_> ah
[10:53] <nik90_> sweet
[10:53] <popey> heard it go off this morning
[10:53] <nik90_> did the alarm sound go well? as in was it in short burts or the normal way?
[10:53] <popey> sounded as normal
[10:53] <popey> image 112 or so i think
[10:54] <nik90_> ok..I guess then bug 1337529 is no longer valid as well
[10:56] <popey> hmm
[10:56] <popey> i have heard that
[10:57]  * popey comments
[10:57]  * popey lunches
[10:58]  * nik90_ is away for 15 mins
[11:40] <dholbach> lool, beuno, does the thread on the appstore list mean that we are generally going to go for some kind of chroot mechanism instead of an API in the store?
[11:43] <beuno> dholbach, I wouldn't be able to implement it before RTM
[11:43] <beuno> so I think it means we'll do API now
[11:43] <beuno> and chroot when we can
[11:43] <dholbach> beuno, it wasn't quite clear to me where this discussion was going
[11:43] <lool> dholbach, beuno: Short-term the appstore json thing is great
[11:44] <lool> basically what beuno said
[11:44] <dholbach> ok
[11:44] <dpm> popey, the new reminders app source package, including the account-plugin-evernote binary package we need for the switch to production was uploaded about 1h ago (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reminders-app) - do you know if this will make it to the next devel-proposed image?
[11:47] <dholbach> lool, beuno: ok... so while we now have a place where we define the frameworks (even if it's a ~ubuntu-core-dev/+junk branch for now), there's still  info from /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof we read
[11:47] <popey> i dont see it at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/utopic-changes/2014-July/thread.html dpm
[11:48] <dholbach> so it's not a solution yet which we can backport for trusty easily
[11:48] <popey> which means it wont be in the next image
[11:48] <dpm> ahhh, so close....
[11:48] <beuno> dholbach, that's the security policy, right>
[11:48] <beuno> ?
[11:49] <beuno> Jamie said he knew how to fix that and would do so when he returned
[11:49] <dholbach> ok
[11:49] <dpm> popey, so I guess the reminders .click update will have to wait till Monday?
[11:50] <popey> unless it hits the archive over the weekend and an image gets built
[11:51] <popey> what will the app do on older images?
[11:51] <popey> because (for example) my #106 phone wont have that package
[11:51] <popey> we probably need to wait for 1) package in archive, 2) image built, 3) image promotion, 4) put it in the store.
[11:55] <dpm> mzanetti, I'm re-setting the copyright MP to Needs Review simply because I've been told to go through CI I need a MP that's not been merged, but thanks for reviewing
[11:57] <mzanetti> dpm: not following on the reasoning... but ok. fine with me
[11:57] <dpm> popey, indeed, the app will not work on older images. So yeah, essentially 3) is the main milestone we'll need to wait for to continue
[11:58] <dpm> mzanetti, yesterday I requested the account-evernote-plugin landing, and I was told I could not just request it from trunk, so I had to prepare a no-change MP. This time around, I'll use this MP
[11:58] <dpm> so I don't have to prepare another dummy branch +MP
[12:06] <elopio> mardy: I have a couple of branches for review. Can you please take a look?
[12:06] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts
[12:48] <mihir> balloons: ping !!
[12:52] <daker> bzoltan: hi, can you please take a look at those MRs ? https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/webapps-valid-json & https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/fix.1327761
[12:52] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: ^
[12:53]  * zbenjamin looks
[13:03] <popey> nik90_: getting the choppy audio, phablet-shell'ed in, system-settings is eating 100% cpu
[13:03] <popey>   PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
[13:03] <popey> 16022 phablet   20   0  322836  88952  31948 R  94.9  4.7   7:44.67 system-settings
[13:03] <popey>   729 message+  20   0   61540  58848    748 S  13.1  3.1   6:29.99 dbus-daemon
[13:03] <popey> that is probably why
[13:07] <daker> zbenjamin: and this please https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/fix.1335692/+merge/225657
[13:07] <nik90_> popey: ah weird
[13:07] <nik90_> popey: I dont get it though..what is system-setting doing anything with alarms
[13:08] <nik90_> popey: the least i would expect either EDS or indicator-datetime to do that
[13:10] <popey> nik90_: i dont think it is, i think its just that the phone is busy, so audio is choppy
[13:10] <popey> byproduct of a busy cpu
[13:10] <nik90_> popey: ah...so would that also affect call audio ringtone?
[13:12] <popey> possibly.
[13:12] <popey> i mean, if the cpu is pegged at 100% I expect all kinds of odd things
[13:12] <nik90_> DanChapman: hey regarding Dekko, I have an idea..You might want to consider using the Ubuntu Listview to display the emails in the inbox to make use of the pulltorefresh feature.
[13:12] <nik90_> DanChapman: this way one can just pull down to automatically refresh the list instead of a dedicated refresh button in the header
[13:12] <DanChapman> nik90_: has that landed now? last I looked it was in staging
[13:13] <nik90_> DanChapman: oh..let me check
[13:13] <nik90_> DanChapman: it hasn't landed :/
[13:13] <nik90_> popey: who should I bring this up with since it is not a clock app bug
[13:15] <nik90_> DanChapman: and I need your help with the clock app cmake file
[13:15] <popey> nik90_: i already have a bug open for system settings
[13:15] <popey> bug 1337200
[13:16] <nik90_> popey: ok..I will close the clock app bug and redirect the user to your bug
[13:16] <popey> k
[13:16] <popey> nik90_: see the mail ?
[13:17]  * nik90_ checks now
[13:18] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: the MRs from daker are already approved by the HTML team so i would say they are fine
[13:19] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  OK, let's include them in the next landing
[13:20] <daker> bzoltan: zbenjamin thanks!
[13:22] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  I am fine with even including them in the ongoing landing as we need to fix there the conflict anyway
[13:26] <DanChapman> nik90_: sure, i'll give you a ping after the trojita meeting
[13:35] <nik90_> t1mp: any idea when zsombor will be back?
[13:37] <popey> rschroll: happy 4th july
[13:39] <rschroll> popey: thanks :)
[13:41]  * nik90_ is admiring the new suru icons on the phone...they look gorgeous
[13:43] <t1mp> nik90_: not very soon
[13:43] <nik90_> t1mp: oh :/
[13:44] <popey> those crazy Finnish off in the mountains with their birch twigs, saunas and snow for months
[13:44] <t1mp> nik90_: I can't find it now.. I think for 2 weeks at least
[13:44] <popey>  -!- bzoltan [~balogh@nemein.hietalahti.nemein.net] has quit [TO THE MOUNTAINS]
[13:44] <nik90_> popey: lol
[13:45] <nik90_> t1mp: hmm I will have to redirect all the alarm bugs to kalikiana then :P
[13:45] <popey> +1
[13:48] <nik90_> popey: btw I cannot find my app flashback in the Sound and Video section. I checked developer.ubuntu.com to confirm the category.
[13:48] <nik90_> I noticed some other apps also missing like your podcast app
[13:48] <DanChapman> nik90_: dekko doesn't come up in Internet>Mail either
[13:48] <nik90_> DanChapman: +1
[13:50]  * popey looks
[13:51] <popey> looks broken
[13:51] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+filebug?no_redirect
[13:51] <popey> ☻
[13:51] <nik90_> :)
[13:55] <nik90_> bug 1337864 reported
[14:20] <t1mp> popey: we have an issue with the qt icon themes not checking parent themes for icons
[14:20] <t1mp> popey: as a result, since switching to the suru-icon-theme, icons may be missing from apps
[14:21] <t1mp> popey: I found this in calendar-app: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7747258/
[14:21] <t1mp> popey: new-event and dropdown-menu icons are missing
[14:21] <t1mp> popey: dropdown-menu is fixed after the next UITK landing, but I think new-event must be changed to appointment-new
[14:25] <t1mp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1337879
[14:25]  * t1mp afk now, bbl
[14:34] <azkaban> hai
[14:36] <dpm> hi bfiller, is it now possible to use the camera app as a content source? I.e. other apps choosing camera in a content picker to take a pic and import it
[14:37] <azkaban> ehmmm
[14:51] <bfiller> dpm: not yet
[14:52] <dpm> bfiller, ah, ok, no worries. Just wondering, I thought I'd understood it from your apps update e-mail. Is this something that's planned for RTM?
[14:53] <bfiller> dpm: you can share from the photo roll in the camera which is a new feature. making it a content source is a might do for rtm if we have time
[14:55] <dpm> bfiller, ah, ok, thanks. I need to look at the translations for the new camera too. Is the project still the same in LP?
[14:55] <bfiller> dpm: yes
[14:56] <dpm> ah, seems like the translations template is already up-to-date, cool
[14:56] <bfiller> dpm: that's good, we just used the existing branch and modified the UI so I expect it should be all set
[15:00] <bfiller> popey: is there a way yet to create a calendar event and specify it for google calendar not local calendar?
[15:02] <DanChapman> nik90_: pulling clock reboot now. So what issues are you hitting with cmake? Looking at it I see it's only configured for click's is that correct and you don't need debian style desktop install or is that also needed?
[15:02] <nik90_> DanChapman: we need debian packaging as well
[15:03] <nik90_> DanChapman: check https://code.launchpad.net/~jpakkane/ubuntu-clock-app/utopiccmake
[15:03] <nik90_> DanChapman: jussi and sergio from canonical started working on it as well
[15:03] <nik90_> DanChapman: may be you can take a look there and see what still needs to be done
[15:08] <DanChapman> nik90_: ok cool i'll take a look at that then
[15:09] <dpm> bfiller, would it be possible to get bug 1320437 assigned for dialer and messaging? I'm not worried too much about notes, but it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to update translations, and translators need them to be exposed to finish their work before August. Thanks!
[15:11] <bfiller> dpm: yes, thought we had done that already
[15:11]  * DanChapman wonders what this magic cmake variable UBUNTU_PROJECT_TYPE does to QtCreator....... *goes to find out*
[15:12] <dpm> bfiller, from what I've seen, all other apps are up-to-date, it's only dialer and messaging
[15:12] <bfiller> dpm: I'll make sure we take care of it
[15:14] <dpm> awesome, thanks bfiller
[15:29] <popey> bfiller: sorry, was on a call...
[15:29] <popey> bfiller: there's a merge in flight to do that
[15:29] <popey> bfiller: https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/CalMan-NewEvent/+merge/224910
[15:30] <popey> balloons: can you help us fix up that test ^ ?
[15:30] <popey> then we can land it i think.
[15:31] <popey> oh, balloons will be on vacation i suspect, elopio can you help with that ^ ?
[15:32] <elopio> popey: yes, I'll check it.
[15:32] <popey> thanks elopio
[15:32] <elopio> popey: can you help getting this one reviewed?
[15:32] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-rssreader-app/no_swipe_to_delete_direction/+merge/225686
[15:32] <popey> sure
[15:34] <popey> done
[15:36] <DanChapman> nik90_: the only issue I see in jussi's branch is the desktop file name in manifest.json is wrong, see https://code.launchpad.net/~dpniel/ubuntu-clock-app/manifest_fix it's creating click's fine and run on device is working and seems to be all working as should, do you want that fix proposed against jussi's branch?
[15:40] <elopio> popey: that fails because no event is created.
[15:41] <elopio> the test is correct.
[15:42] <elopio> Fail to create items: Cannot create calendar object: Permission denied
[15:42] <elopio> maybe that?
[15:42] <popey> could be
[15:43] <elopio> popey: yes, reproduced manually. +1 of karma to the nice gentlemen who wrote the test :D
[15:44] <popey> :D
[15:46] <popey> so, elopio it's a bug in the code? or the fact that it runs on the desktop without syncmonitor?
[15:46] <popey> i dont understand
[15:46] <elopio> ah, that goes beyond my powers. I have no idea what's syncmonitor.
[15:46] <elopio> I would have to go deeper, but for that I don't have time atm.
[15:47] <popey> its the thing that syncs google calendars
[15:47] <popey> which obviously wont be setup during the test run
[15:49] <elopio> popey: it's saving the event to a calendar called Birthdays & Anniversaires
[15:49] <elopio> why would it try to sync it with google?
[15:50] <popey> ah okay, so it's one of the local calendars its failing to save in
[15:54] <rschroll> I've created a few bugs against the QML toolkit (#1337555, #1337556, #1337694, #1337694).  I'd appreciate it if someone could confirm them and/or tell me what I'm doing wrong.
[16:05] <popey> thanks rschroll
[16:15] <davmor2> popey: DanChapman: why is dekko not under Internet/mail as a category?
[16:20] <popey> davmor2: file a bug
[16:21] <popey> most apps aren't in the right place it seems
[16:38] <zbenjamin> nik90_: did you see dpm's mail about QtC 3.1.1?
[16:52] <nik90_> zbenjamin: just saw it
[16:52] <nik90_> zbenjamin: Is there anything specific you would like me to test?
[16:53] <zbenjamin> nik90_: nothing specific, just check if it works for you
[16:54] <nik90_> zbenjamin: will do
[16:55] <zbenjamin> nik90_: awesome :)
[16:56] <nik90_> DanChapman: thnx mate for looking through it
[16:56] <zbenjamin> nik90_: bzoltan will push a new version to that ppa later, so maybe try to upgrade tomorrow to get all the new goodies ;)
[16:56] <nik90_> DanChapman: since it is a one line fix, I will comment in the original mp
[16:56] <nik90_> zbenjamin: ok
[16:57] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: nik90_: I am dputing in a minute
[16:57] <DanChapman> nik90_: np :-) sounds good to me, i'll drop that branch then
[16:59] <davmor2> popey: DanChapman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1337924   figured out why I couldn't send mail.  In the account setup you don't get the Identities page so the address from is blank effectively
[17:01] <davmor2> popey: let me know if you get that mail please
[17:03] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: nik90_: the latest (5 minutes old) utopic release of the QtC plugin is flying up to the PPA, expect the fresh release in 20 minutes
[17:04] <davmor2> DanChapman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1337931
[17:04] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: awesome :)
[17:05] <nik90_> bzoltan: thnx
[17:08] <davmor2> DanChapman: does dekko only read in on opening?  If so that would explain why the sig is wrong on restarting the app the updated sig is pulled in.
[17:10] <DanChapman> davmor2: \o/ it's not completely busted then :-D . right ok I see the problem there. If no identity is given it should be defaulting back to smtp username so you wouldn't have the fancy "Dan Chapman <dpniel@ubuntu.com>" style address but that seems to not be the case. I will also add the identity page to the initial setup
[17:15] <bzoltan> daker: mvo: I start the next landing right away for the QtC. Should I add these MRs? https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/fix.1335692/+merge/225657 https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/webapp-template-with-doc/+merge/224759
[17:17] <daker> bzoltan: yes
[17:18] <daker> thanks!
[17:19] <bzoltan> daker: I have had today 3 MRs that could land only in a sequence :) So I can use the opportunity to push in other stuff and test them.
[17:19] <DanChapman> davmor2: no it 'should' be accessible straight after adding a new sig. The sender identity is stored in a U1db doc. Just going to test that out now,
[17:38] <rschroll> Is it recommended to use the UbuntuWebView 0.2, or is it still under development?
[17:49] <daker> rschroll: yes use 0.2, 0.1 will be deprecated soon
[17:51] <rschroll> daker: Does / will it have an equivalent for WebView.experimental.evaluateJavascript?
[17:51] <daker> 0.2 uses oxide while 0.1 uses qtwebkit and it will be removed from the plateform
[17:51] <rschroll> Which is why
[17:52] <rschroll> I'm asking for an equivalent
[17:52] <rschroll> I can't find the API for it anywhere
[17:53] <daker> rschroll: if it doesn't, just report bug against lp:oxide
[17:55] <rschroll> OK.  Is it API documented somewhere, or do I have to introspect it to find out what it has?
[17:59] <daker> rschroll: no but i made this http://daker.me/2014/05/how-to-use-oxide-in-your-ubuntu-qml-application.html
[18:05] <rschroll> Ah - the message API should work for me.
[18:05] <rschroll> Thanks for the help!
[18:11] <daker> rschroll: ok :)
[18:18] <daker> davmor2: hi, when you use the front camera, and start switching btwn photo/video mode
[18:18] <bzoltan> daker: would you please give me a hand and verify that the landing silo has the changes in a way you expect? ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-001 If yes then I can land it still today (before the :) soccer match)
[18:19] <daker> bzoltan: one sec
[18:22] <daker> davmor2: will be back to you
[18:23] <daker> bzoltan: how can i check that ? i am not familliar with that
[18:25] <daker> bzoltan: i am not seeing the first two MRs in the diff
[18:26] <daker> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/179305578/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu_3.1.1%2B14.10.20140704-0ubuntu1_3.1.1%2B14.10.20140704.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[18:47] <bzoltan> daker: you had three MRs, all three are there.. strange that two of them by [ daker ] and one by [ Adnane Belmadiaf ]
[18:49] <daker> bzoltan: the two MRs by daker are not included in the diff
[18:50] <daker> one touches the desktop file and one the apparmor file
[18:51] <bzoltan> daker:  hmm... let me check what the package contains
[18:51] <daker> ok
[19:00] <bzoltan> daker:  This MR https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/webapps-valid-json/+merge/222433 has a single -"," diff and that  is correct in the package
[19:00] <bzoltan> daker:  this MR https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/fix.1327761/+merge/222456 says that there is a single line diff, but I do not see the difference
[19:03] <daker> bzoltan: their is a "-" btwn session & cookies
[19:03] <bzoltan> daker:  ahh...
[19:04] <bzoltan> daker: that is too correct in the package
[19:04] <daker> bzoltan: ok
[19:04] <daker> wirred :)
[19:05] <bzoltan> daker: I do not understand the package diff
[19:06] <daker> if it's in the package then we are ok
[19:07] <bzoltan> daker:  that is what I think too... what is possible that these changes were in the package already. Not impossible that mvo has pushed manually these fixes to the archive, but not to the project trunk.
[19:08] <daker> ok
[19:08] <bzoltan> daker:  yeps... that is exactly the case. The Utopic archive has a package what was released outside of the CI and it has those fixes. From now these fixes will be in the project source too and so will be backported to the LTS. Thanks for your help :)
[19:09] <daker> yw :)
[23:30] <elijh> I am not too ashamed to ask what is probably the most ridiculous question ever: where is the qtcreator menu bar?
[23:31] <elijh> many tutorials, like this one
[23:31] <elijh> http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/creating-an-sdk-app-project/
[23:32] <elijh> instruct you to open a menu item. when i run qtcreator, i get no menu at all (holds true regardless of setting to put app menu in window title or menu bar)
[23:32] <elijh> i don't have this problem with any other applications (running 14.04). is there something really obvious I am missing?