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Guest71828morning all05:39
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MooDoomorning all05:40
MooDoothat's better05:40
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mappmorning mate05:42
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mappwatched much tv MooDoo?05:42
MooDoonot really, started to watch ray donovan last night, but nah05:43
mapphmm i started that but found it hard to get into05:43
MooDooI've only watched one, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt05:59
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MyrttiOOOOOHHHH07:02
MyrttiYou can add Paypal to Google Play now!07:02
diddledanMyrtti: seems not possible on the web07:09
Myrttididdledan: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2651410#paypal07:09
Myrttihttps://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/464642507:11
MartijnVdSIn the countries listed, credit cards aren't used as often I think?07:15
MartijnVdSI know people in .nl tend to be *scared* of having them somehow07:15
MyrttiI'm not too keen on them either07:16
MyrttiI keep zero balance on mine07:16
Myrttiit's only for emergencies07:16
MartijnVdSMine is for Amazon and holidays :)07:19
MartijnVdSand things like the google play store stuff07:20
MyrttiI've got my debit card on Amazon and Google Play, not credit07:21
Myrttibut my sister refuses to put either on Google Play, so she'll like Paypal07:21
MartijnVdSDutch debit cards dont have credit card-like numbers07:23
MartijnVdSjust IBAN07:23
diddledanthat means they only work in nl?07:24
diddledanmy debit card works wherever mastercard is accepted \o/07:24
Myrttiyeah, likewise07:24
Myrttido any of the banks over here do personalised cards?07:25
diddledanit's not something I've looked into07:25
Myrttibarclays I see, and halifax07:25
Myrttinot keen on either07:25
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MartijnVdSdiddledan: no, they work using the "Maestro" standard (chip+pin) across the world07:29
MartijnVdSdiddledan: they just don't have a "credit card style" number etc. on them07:29
diddledanaah07:30
gebbionehi all, i have an old system i want to recover from hardware death. Yesterday i started it again after a few years07:45
gebbioneand it looks like a power supply problem as power comes up but dies/shuts down just moments after07:46
gebbioneany suggestions on what i can troubleshoot?07:46
gebbionemaybe i need to replace the bios battery?07:47
popeymorning07:47
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)07:59
MartijnVdSgebbione: I'd try with a new/different power supply08:02
MartijnVdSgebbione: or just plug the disk into a different machine and make sure you have a backup of the data08:02
gebbioneMartijnVdS, i am doing the data backup08:05
gebbionebut dont have a spare psu08:05
gebbioneit was funny that it did run for 15/20sec and then suddenly died yesterday night08:05
gebbioneand now it will only try to spin the fans for less then a second and die straight away08:06
gebbioneanyway i ll see if i can see the parts08:06
gebbionecheers08:06
bigcalmMy mouse is being sporadic about registering that I've clicked the middle button08:07
bigcalmEverything else works just fine on it08:07
* bigcalm goes to find another mouse08:08
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy US Independence Day! :-D08:16
bigcalmSplitters!08:23
diddledanwow, my googley play order has shipped09:00
diddledanI only ordered it at 6am this morning09:00
Myrttiooh er09:02
Myrttiwhat did you order?09:02
diddledanI accidentally ordered a watch09:03
diddledanthe lg one09:03
Myrttilol accidentally09:03
foobarrytax office sent a cheque to me yesterady, uninvited09:06
diddledanouch09:06
diddledanwhere do they get off giving random punters their money back?!09:07
davmor2foobarry: yeah apparently there was a cock up with the figures so some people were overcharged apparently.  This will be the refund on that I assume.09:08
Myrttithe tax bracket for my dad was too high last year because the tax man assessed he'd get half a year more income than what he did (passed away year and a week ago), so the estate (me) is going to get about 1500€ refund come December. Decided to use it to cover some wedding costs. No we don't have a place and date yet09:12
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:14
diddledanello brobostigon09:14
brobostigonmorning diddledan09:15
Myrtti\o/ Paypal paying works on Google Play \o/ just bought a book09:22
davmor2Myrtti: I'm glad I re-read that tax bracket statement.  1500euros on weeding is way too excessive :D  Wedding sounds far more enjoyable :)09:28
diddledanwhy does the wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices _still_ list the galaxy nexus (maguro) as working with OTA updates?09:28
bashrcmaybe very harsh weeds09:29
popeydiddledan: its a wiki, feel free to edit it09:29
diddledanpopey: I don't know what to put instead tho09:30
diddledanI'm not involved :-)09:30
popeybut you know something is wrong09:30
popeyon a wiki09:30
popeybut took time to tell us here rather than just, you know, fix it ☻09:31
popeytell me what line is wrong and I'll fix it09:31
popeywiki by proxy09:31
diddledanhehe09:31
diddledanI'm just logging-in09:31
popeyi see "Galaxy Nexus (deprecated)"09:31
diddledanyeah that's the bit I'm referring to - the sentence directly above the table says that OTA works with those devices in said table09:32
popeymaybe just add a carriage return before || Galaxy Nexus09:32
popeythat will break it into two tables09:32
popeyand thus fix the issue ☻09:32
bigcalmpopey: do you leave your charging pads pluged in and switched on all of the time?09:33
popeyyes09:33
popeywell, no09:33
popeyplugged into a usb hub attached to pc09:33
bigcalmHow long have you had them?09:33
bigcalmAh09:33
diddledangrr, the openid auth system seems to be timing out when I click the confirmation to share my detials with the wiki09:34
bigcalmI think I might unplug some things while on the cruise09:34
diddledan"waiting for wiki.ubuntu.com"09:34
foobarryis google giving 500 error for anyone else?09:34
Myrttiyes09:34
foobarrydavmor2: they gave me £20009:34
diddledannot me09:34
diddledangoogley workly fo me09:34
bigcalm.co.uk is giving a 500 to me09:34
Myrttiworks now again09:35
diddledanMyrtti: their automated failover probably kicked in09:35
Myrttihuman psychology is odd. I have no idea why I've got the sense of forboding about Rolf Harris sentencing.09:35
bigcalmAbout 3,660,000 results (10.89 seconds)09:35
bigcalmThat's a very long time to wait with them09:36
popeyDelivered On: Tuesday, 29 April 201409:36
diddledanVERY09:36
popeybigcalm: ^ that long09:36
bigcalmpopey: but not powered all of the time I'm guessing? They use some power, just wondering if I should bother unplugging them when not in use09:36
Myrtti1,270,000 results (13.64 seconds)09:37
popeypowered 99% of the time09:37
popeythey use very little power09:37
bigcalmFair enough09:37
* bigcalm leaves them be09:37
MyrttiI'm wondering what the difference of the QI receiver on Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 are09:37
* popey puts a device on one and looks how much current it takes09:37
popey0.5A when there's a phone on it09:38
popey0.01A when no phone on it09:38
Myrttimy sister has the same kind of Rearth Ringke Fusion case on her N4 as I've got on my N5 and hers doesn't charge on the Nokia Fatboy QI09:38
Myrttimine does09:38
diddledanpopey: you should have a notification that I've edited the page (it says it told you!)09:53
popey09:57
popeyI do09:57
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popeydiddledan: nice edit!10:06
diddledanta10:06
diddledan:-)10:06
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diddledanmy watch is at london north-west depot11:00
diddledannot far to get to amazingstoke I wouldn't think - maybe get it tomorrow11:00
diddledanmore likely monday tho11:01
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Azelphurdiddledan: oO, shipped out huh?11:02
Azelphuryea mine has dispatched too11:02
Myrttithey probably won't deliver on Saturdays11:02
Myrttiso don't hold your breath11:02
Azelphurhow do you get tracking?11:03
Myrttiatleast the Nexus 5 wasn't delivered on Saturday, it was loaded in the van on Saturday but that didn't mean a thing11:03
diddledanAzelphur: in the email that says it shipped they included a tracking link11:04
Azelphurhmm, I never got one.11:04
Azelphuroh, I guess mine hasn't dispatched yet11:05
diddledanmaybe yours is via a different courier?11:05
* Azelphur shrugs11:05
diddledanthe email states at the top: "Great news! Your order on Google Play has shipped."11:06
diddledan(maybe that helps you find it11:06
Azelphuralso they lied, it says "Dispatched from warehouse by 4 July."11:06
bigcalmI'm loving http://www.programmerexcuses.com/11:14
bigcalmhttp://a.desktopprassets.com/wallpapers/aecc1f260d84a7985f152af41b450c21f7b131fc/star_wars_wide.jpg11:19
Azelphurdiddledan: just got the shipped email11:29
diddledan\o/11:29
davmor2popey: I don't believe you would sell your children.  I can believe you might let one go for a game but not both ;)11:31
dvrrhow to resolve packet loss belkin router. ( I updated Firmware Info. There is no new firmware update available for this Router! ! )     please  guide me11:35
foobarryhow do you know it's the router11:37
foobarrycould be your network card11:37
MyrttiBelkin...11:37
Myrttitoss it in the sea and get something better. I've not had nothing but trouble and woe with mine11:37
Myrttithey're too light even to be used as a weight for a crab pot11:41
foobarrya few belkins can be openwrted11:41
davmor2my last belkin didn't last 6 months before I had to reset it daily to make it work.  I grabbed a tp-link on the cheap but that has memory management issue on the default software so put dd-wrt on it never looked back.  Next router I bought was tp-link again stuck dd-wrt straight on it perfect little router :)11:42
MartijnVdSdd-wrt is crappy old though. Better use OpenWRT11:43
foobarrysynology can stream to chromecast \o/11:43
MartijnVdSfoobarry: it can?!11:45
diddledannice11:48
Myrttiuhoh, here goes11:50
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* bigcalm goes on holiday, back 14th July. Taaraa peeps :)12:14
Myrttitaraa12:14
Myrtti5 years and 9 months.12:22
Myrttiwow12:22
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diddledanI think it must be fooding time12:58
diddledanbrb12:58
foobarryMartijnVdS: http://blog.synology.com/blog/?p=237713:06
* diddledan wraps up advertising on the hantslug mailing list13:28
Azelphurholy crap, no wonder that router I set up in a local cafe had it's DHCP table full13:29
diddledano_O13:29
AzelphurIt filled up, so I lowered the DHCP lease time to 1 hour, it currently has 74 entries in the DHCP table13:29
diddledanyou might be better off with a 15 minute or maybe less lease time13:29
diddledancafes get a lot of footfall13:30
Azelphurwell 74 is still less than 255, we're still ok13:30
diddledantrue13:30
Azelphurand this is more of a cafe where the typical sit is like an hour13:30
diddledankeep an eye on it tho13:30
Azelphurso, if it goes over I'll probably reflash the router with *wrt and give it a much larger DHCP pool13:30
Azelphureg 192.168.*13:30
diddledanwould be nice if you could set up a monitoring system that alerts you when it gets near the limit13:30
Azelphurindeed13:30
diddledan(nagios et al would do that)13:30
diddledanicinga is nagios without the cruft13:31
Azelphurdiddledan: would need to drop the stock firmware though :)13:31
diddledanaah13:31
foobarryadagios13:58
foobarryis worth a look13:58
foobarryinstead of icingi/nagios13:59
diddledanI don't know that one14:00
diddledanlooks intriguing14:01
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mappugh14:50
mappraining14:50
mapp;[14:50
popeywhere?14:53
popeystill sunny here14:54
Laneyhttp://www.raintoday.co.uk/14:54
Laneyit's-a-coming14:54
popeyi haz bbq stuffs14:55
mappNice14:56
mappin the sunny ol midlands14:56
mappand my hand hurts..slept on it funny;/14:56
popeyhttp://www.raintoday.co.uk/mobile works nice on ubuntu phone14:57
mappcan anyone recommend some good headphones..noise cancelling..want them for flying mainly..last time could barely hear the audio from my nexus714:58
awilkinsmapp, Are in-the-ear-canal phones acceptable?14:58
awilkinsmapp, I used Etymotic in-the-ear ones until I mangled the cable and I'm presently using Jays14:59
mapphmm not sure i know which you mean..ive got some ear buds where they have like a soft sponge thing and look like theyre meant to go in the ear..but they fall out14:59
mappil google it14:59
awilkinsmapp, When I get around to soldering a new plug on my Etymotics I'll probably go back to them14:59
LaneyI had Etymotic HF-5s until they broke14:59
awilkinsmapp, They have the sponge ones, but I usually use the silicone ones14:59
Laneysuper great15:00
Laneyone you get used to shoving something down your ear15:00
mapphmm mayve ive got funny ears but they always fall out15:00
awilkinsYeah, the sound quality is primo... but they are uncomfortable for a while15:00
Laneyyou get different sized ones15:00
mapphow would i know what size?!15:00
Laneycomes with them15:00
mappah15:01
Laneyor you can get them moulded for £££15:01
mappi think over the head ones would be better..always had trouble with in ear like that15:01
mappnot keen on getting those beats..dont wanna look like a teen sheep15:01
awilkinsThey're mostly about looks, aren't they?15:02
awilkinsAnd they won't stop plane noise15:02
mappi read theyre actually decent15:02
awilkinsUnless they do antinoise ones15:02
mappargh15:02
awilkinsI like the in-ear ones... they're polite, other people can't hear them15:02
mgdm`/3015:02
mgdmoops15:02
awilkinsOpen backs are just rude15:02
awilkinsUnless you're in your own homw15:03
mappi get that awilkins just worried of them being useless15:03
mappand falling out my ears;p15:03
mappthis was what i looked at15:03
mapphttp://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/gadgets-tech/silent-flight-7-best-noisecancelling-headphones-9540664.html?origin=internalSearch15:03
mappsony ones..well im not a pro 449 seems a bit much15:04
mappwow beats are 269 too15:04
awilkinsGot my Etymotic ER6i set for £7015:05
awilkinsBut I don't think they make them anymore15:05
awilkinsNot sure what the equivalent model is now15:05
mappi might get those Bose ones15:05
awilkinsI like the look of the Tivoli ones. If you like wood.15:05
mappis it possible i get these in the ear ones and they fall out like other in the ear cheap ones?15:05
mgdmI've heard that the Bose ones are decent, but I have no personal experience - a few friends have them15:06
mappits only for flying tbh..doubt id wear them out or to the gym15:06
awilkinsmapp, I don't know.... the in-the-ear ones that are buds only contact the rim of your ear canal15:06
mappbut watching a film with my normal ear buds sucked..had to hold them in my ear to hear it loud enough15:06
awilkinsmapp, The ones I've used have silicone grommets that you basically push INTO your ear canal15:07
awilkinsTHere's an art to it15:07
mapphm15:07
awilkinsYou have to pull your ear back at a certain angle with your thumb and push them right in15:07
mgdmawilkins: my ear canals are too small for those15:07
mappive always had probs with in ear which is what worries me15:08
mgdmI got quite nice Shure headphones once and couldn't use 'em, even after ordering the extra extra extra small rubber bits15:08
awilkinsYeah, I suppose it's like anything else that you wear that's a tight fit15:08
mappthink il buy the bose ones15:09
mappgotta also remember..toothpaste..seem to forget it every time;p and some kind of small aftershave15:09
mappthe tennis is nice in hd..i wouldve liked to have seen the tennis in 3dbut they stopped doing it few years back:(15:10
diddledanhad em talking round in circles for 6 minutes, not bad15:24
diddledanthey didn't even get past my postcode and address before they gave up15:25
diddledangotta love the "uk survey centre"15:25
diddledanspamcalls ftw15:26
mappi just hang up15:26
diddledan6 minutes for them to realise I wasn't going to answer their survey questions seriously15:26
mappmy job isnt to speak to them15:26
diddledanI like making them work for ti15:26
mappi especially like it when i get the 'hi is that mr jones' 'mope 'who is it' 'doesnt matter to you..bye'15:27
mapplol15:27
diddledanthis one wouldn't believe that my phone number can be reverse mapped using public records (BT phone directory) to my physical address - they insisted that I tell them what it is15:27
diddledanI gave him a chance at least, I told him that he had the first three digits of my post code correct but the rest was wrong, and then I went further by telling him the last digit which left him with 26^26+10^10 potential combinations15:29
diddledanless than that even15:29
diddledan126 combinations15:30
diddledan1 letter and two numbers15:30
diddledanmy math foo sucks15:30
diddledanit's not 10^10 at all, it's 10^215:31
diddledansomewhat of a large difference15:31
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mapphttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2353009/windows-2000-added-more-new-users-in-june-than-windows-817:25
mapp:D17:25
diddledanis btrfs safe to use for root yet?19:00
diddledanhttp://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/754674-using-bcache-to-soup-up-your-sata-drive19:01
ali1234you might get more benefit from using BFQ19:08
diddledanI don't know what that is *to google!*19:09
diddledanaah a different queuing scheduler?19:09
* diddledan settles down to watch the 15 minute demo vid19:12
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brobostigonST:FC e4. now.20:00
diddledanstfc?20:00
diddledanstar trek the final crusade?20:01
brobostigonfirst contact20:01
diddledanaah20:01
diddledanwhere's me remote20:01
brobostigon:)20:01
MyrttiWell, that's a first. Went for a Tesco run after dinner and who else was in there buying sandwiches and a roll of Polos than the former primey John Major with his bodyguard.21:39
brobostigonoh dear.21:40
MyrttiI wonder if he ever shops at any other local shop than this one inaugurated by his wife in days of yore21:42
brobostigonah.21:43
Seekerargh21:44
SeekerI can't finish my workmate :(21:45
brobostigoni bet he needs a bodyguard, just like alot of our current government do, they are so disliked.21:45
Seekermost politicians are hated somewhere21:46
Myrttiwell there are enough nutjobs for every uk prime I bet21:46
Myrttiyeah21:46
brobostigonand even some uk prime ministers are nutjobs the,selves.21:47
brobostigonlike the current incumbant.21:47
Seekerthankfully, not as bad as the previous bunch21:49
brobostigonwell, they were not as bad as the current bunch, by some margin.21:50
Seekerheh21:50
mgdmevening23:16
daftykinshey23:20

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