[05:39] morning all === Guest71828 is now known as MooDoo [05:40] morning all [05:40] that's better === MooDoo is now known as Guest755 [05:42] morning mate === Guest755 is now known as MooDoo [05:42] watched much tv MooDoo? [05:43] not really, started to watch ray donovan last night, but nah [05:43] hmm i started that but found it hard to get into [05:59] I've only watched one, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [07:02] OOOOOHHHH [07:02] You can add Paypal to Google Play now! [07:09] Myrtti: seems not possible on the web [07:09] diddledan: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2651410#paypal [07:11] https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/4646425 [07:15] In the countries listed, credit cards aren't used as often I think? [07:15] I know people in .nl tend to be *scared* of having them somehow [07:16] I'm not too keen on them either [07:16] I keep zero balance on mine [07:16] it's only for emergencies [07:19] Mine is for Amazon and holidays :) [07:20] and things like the google play store stuff [07:21] I've got my debit card on Amazon and Google Play, not credit [07:21] but my sister refuses to put either on Google Play, so she'll like Paypal [07:23] Dutch debit cards dont have credit card-like numbers [07:23] just IBAN [07:24] that means they only work in nl? [07:24] my debit card works wherever mastercard is accepted \o/ [07:24] yeah, likewise [07:25] do any of the banks over here do personalised cards? [07:25] it's not something I've looked into [07:25] barclays I see, and halifax [07:25] not keen on either === DGJones is now known as DJones [07:29] diddledan: no, they work using the "Maestro" standard (chip+pin) across the world [07:29] diddledan: they just don't have a "credit card style" number etc. on them [07:30] aah [07:45] hi all, i have an old system i want to recover from hardware death. Yesterday i started it again after a few years [07:46] and it looks like a power supply problem as power comes up but dies/shuts down just moments after [07:46] any suggestions on what i can troubleshoot? [07:47] maybe i need to replace the bios battery? [07:47] morning [07:59] Good morning peeps :) [08:02] gebbione: I'd try with a new/different power supply [08:02] gebbione: or just plug the disk into a different machine and make sure you have a backup of the data [08:05] MartijnVdS, i am doing the data backup [08:05] but dont have a spare psu [08:05] it was funny that it did run for 15/20sec and then suddenly died yesterday night [08:06] and now it will only try to spin the fans for less then a second and die straight away [08:06] anyway i ll see if i can see the parts [08:06] cheers [08:07] My mouse is being sporadic about registering that I've clicked the middle button [08:07] Everything else works just fine on it [08:08] * bigcalm goes to find another mouse [08:16] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy US Independence Day! :-D [08:23] Splitters! [09:00] wow, my googley play order has shipped [09:00] I only ordered it at 6am this morning [09:02] ooh er [09:02] what did you order? [09:03] I accidentally ordered a watch [09:03] the lg one [09:03] lol accidentally [09:06] tax office sent a cheque to me yesterady, uninvited [09:06] ouch [09:07] where do they get off giving random punters their money back?! [09:08] foobarry: yeah apparently there was a cock up with the figures so some people were overcharged apparently. This will be the refund on that I assume. [09:12] the tax bracket for my dad was too high last year because the tax man assessed he'd get half a year more income than what he did (passed away year and a week ago), so the estate (me) is going to get about 1500€ refund come December. Decided to use it to cover some wedding costs. No we don't have a place and date yet [09:14] morning boys and girls. [09:14] ello brobostigon [09:15] morning diddledan [09:22] \o/ Paypal paying works on Google Play \o/ just bought a book [09:28] Myrtti: I'm glad I re-read that tax bracket statement. 1500euros on weeding is way too excessive :D Wedding sounds far more enjoyable :) [09:28] why does the wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices _still_ list the galaxy nexus (maguro) as working with OTA updates? [09:29] maybe very harsh weeds [09:29] diddledan: its a wiki, feel free to edit it [09:30] popey: I don't know what to put instead tho [09:30] I'm not involved :-) [09:30] but you know something is wrong [09:30] on a wiki [09:31] but took time to tell us here rather than just, you know, fix it ☻ [09:31] tell me what line is wrong and I'll fix it [09:31] wiki by proxy [09:31] hehe [09:31] I'm just logging-in [09:31] i see "Galaxy Nexus (deprecated)" [09:32] yeah that's the bit I'm referring to - the sentence directly above the table says that OTA works with those devices in said table [09:32] maybe just add a carriage return before || Galaxy Nexus [09:32] that will break it into two tables [09:32] and thus fix the issue ☻ [09:33] popey: do you leave your charging pads pluged in and switched on all of the time? [09:33] yes [09:33] well, no [09:33] plugged into a usb hub attached to pc [09:33] How long have you had them? [09:33] Ah [09:34] grr, the openid auth system seems to be timing out when I click the confirmation to share my detials with the wiki [09:34] I think I might unplug some things while on the cruise [09:34] "waiting for wiki.ubuntu.com" [09:34] is google giving 500 error for anyone else? [09:34] yes [09:34] davmor2: they gave me £200 [09:34] not me [09:34] googley workly fo me [09:34] .co.uk is giving a 500 to me [09:35] works now again [09:35] Myrtti: their automated failover probably kicked in [09:35] human psychology is odd. I have no idea why I've got the sense of forboding about Rolf Harris sentencing. [09:35] About 3,660,000 results (10.89 seconds) [09:36] That's a very long time to wait with them [09:36] Delivered On: Tuesday, 29 April 2014 [09:36] VERY [09:36] bigcalm: ^ that long [09:36] popey: but not powered all of the time I'm guessing? They use some power, just wondering if I should bother unplugging them when not in use [09:37] 1,270,000 results (13.64 seconds) [09:37] powered 99% of the time [09:37] they use very little power [09:37] Fair enough [09:37] * bigcalm leaves them be [09:37] I'm wondering what the difference of the QI receiver on Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 are [09:37] * popey puts a device on one and looks how much current it takes [09:38] 0.5A when there's a phone on it [09:38] 0.01A when no phone on it [09:38] my sister has the same kind of Rearth Ringke Fusion case on her N4 as I've got on my N5 and hers doesn't charge on the Nokia Fatboy QI [09:38] mine does [09:53] popey: you should have a notification that I've edited the page (it says it told you!) [09:57] ☻ [09:57] I do === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:06] diddledan: nice edit! [10:06] ta [10:06] :-) === daniel is now known as Guest73145 [11:00] my watch is at london north-west depot [11:00] not far to get to amazingstoke I wouldn't think - maybe get it tomorrow [11:01] more likely monday tho === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [11:02] diddledan: oO, shipped out huh? [11:02] yea mine has dispatched too [11:02] they probably won't deliver on Saturdays [11:02] so don't hold your breath [11:03] how do you get tracking? [11:03] atleast the Nexus 5 wasn't delivered on Saturday, it was loaded in the van on Saturday but that didn't mean a thing [11:04] Azelphur: in the email that says it shipped they included a tracking link [11:04] hmm, I never got one. [11:05] oh, I guess mine hasn't dispatched yet [11:05] maybe yours is via a different courier? [11:05] * Azelphur shrugs [11:06] the email states at the top: "Great news! Your order on Google Play has shipped." [11:06] (maybe that helps you find it [11:06] also they lied, it says "Dispatched from warehouse by 4 July." [11:14] I'm loving http://www.programmerexcuses.com/ [11:19] http://a.desktopprassets.com/wallpapers/aecc1f260d84a7985f152af41b450c21f7b131fc/star_wars_wide.jpg [11:29] diddledan: just got the shipped email [11:29] \o/ [11:31] popey: I don't believe you would sell your children. I can believe you might let one go for a game but not both ;) [11:35] how to resolve packet loss belkin router. ( I updated Firmware Info. There is no new firmware update available for this Router! ! ) please guide me [11:37] how do you know it's the router [11:37] could be your network card [11:37] Belkin... [11:37] toss it in the sea and get something better. I've not had nothing but trouble and woe with mine [11:41] they're too light even to be used as a weight for a crab pot [11:41] a few belkins can be openwrted [11:42] my last belkin didn't last 6 months before I had to reset it daily to make it work. I grabbed a tp-link on the cheap but that has memory management issue on the default software so put dd-wrt on it never looked back. Next router I bought was tp-link again stuck dd-wrt straight on it perfect little router :) [11:43] dd-wrt is crappy old though. Better use OpenWRT [11:43] synology can stream to chromecast \o/ [11:45] foobarry: it can?! [11:48] nice [11:50] uhoh, here goes === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:14] * bigcalm goes on holiday, back 14th July. Taaraa peeps :) [12:14] taraa [12:22] 5 years and 9 months. [12:22] wow === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:58] I think it must be fooding time [12:58] brb [13:06] MartijnVdS: http://blog.synology.com/blog/?p=2377 [13:28] * diddledan wraps up advertising on the hantslug mailing list [13:29] holy crap, no wonder that router I set up in a local cafe had it's DHCP table full [13:29] o_O [13:29] It filled up, so I lowered the DHCP lease time to 1 hour, it currently has 74 entries in the DHCP table [13:29] you might be better off with a 15 minute or maybe less lease time [13:30] cafes get a lot of footfall [13:30] well 74 is still less than 255, we're still ok [13:30] true [13:30] and this is more of a cafe where the typical sit is like an hour [13:30] keep an eye on it tho [13:30] so, if it goes over I'll probably reflash the router with *wrt and give it a much larger DHCP pool [13:30] eg 192.168.* [13:30] would be nice if you could set up a monitoring system that alerts you when it gets near the limit [13:30] indeed [13:30] (nagios et al would do that) [13:31] icinga is nagios without the cruft [13:31] diddledan: would need to drop the stock firmware though :) [13:31] aah [13:58] adagios [13:58] is worth a look [13:59] instead of icingi/nagios [14:00] I don't know that one [14:01] looks intriguing === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:50] ugh [14:50] raining [14:50] ;[ [14:53] where? [14:54] still sunny here [14:54] http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ [14:54] it's-a-coming [14:55] i haz bbq stuffs [14:56] Nice [14:56] in the sunny ol midlands [14:56] and my hand hurts..slept on it funny;/ [14:57] http://www.raintoday.co.uk/mobile works nice on ubuntu phone [14:58] can anyone recommend some good headphones..noise cancelling..want them for flying mainly..last time could barely hear the audio from my nexus7 [14:58] mapp, Are in-the-ear-canal phones acceptable? [14:59] mapp, I used Etymotic in-the-ear ones until I mangled the cable and I'm presently using Jays [14:59] hmm not sure i know which you mean..ive got some ear buds where they have like a soft sponge thing and look like theyre meant to go in the ear..but they fall out [14:59] il google it [14:59] mapp, When I get around to soldering a new plug on my Etymotics I'll probably go back to them [14:59] I had Etymotic HF-5s until they broke [14:59] mapp, They have the sponge ones, but I usually use the silicone ones [15:00] super great [15:00] one you get used to shoving something down your ear [15:00] hmm mayve ive got funny ears but they always fall out [15:00] Yeah, the sound quality is primo... but they are uncomfortable for a while [15:00] you get different sized ones [15:00] how would i know what size?! [15:00] comes with them [15:01] ah [15:01] or you can get them moulded for £££ [15:01] i think over the head ones would be better..always had trouble with in ear like that [15:01] not keen on getting those beats..dont wanna look like a teen sheep [15:02] They're mostly about looks, aren't they? [15:02] And they won't stop plane noise [15:02] i read theyre actually decent [15:02] Unless they do antinoise ones [15:02] argh [15:02] I like the in-ear ones... they're polite, other people can't hear them [15:02] `/30 [15:02] oops [15:02] Open backs are just rude [15:03] Unless you're in your own homw [15:03] i get that awilkins just worried of them being useless [15:03] and falling out my ears;p [15:03] this was what i looked at [15:03] http://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/gadgets-tech/silent-flight-7-best-noisecancelling-headphones-9540664.html?origin=internalSearch [15:04] sony ones..well im not a pro 449 seems a bit much [15:04] wow beats are 269 too [15:05] Got my Etymotic ER6i set for £70 [15:05] But I don't think they make them anymore [15:05] Not sure what the equivalent model is now [15:05] i might get those Bose ones [15:05] I like the look of the Tivoli ones. If you like wood. [15:05] is it possible i get these in the ear ones and they fall out like other in the ear cheap ones? [15:06] I've heard that the Bose ones are decent, but I have no personal experience - a few friends have them [15:06] its only for flying tbh..doubt id wear them out or to the gym [15:06] mapp, I don't know.... the in-the-ear ones that are buds only contact the rim of your ear canal [15:06] but watching a film with my normal ear buds sucked..had to hold them in my ear to hear it loud enough [15:07] mapp, The ones I've used have silicone grommets that you basically push INTO your ear canal [15:07] THere's an art to it [15:07] hm [15:07] You have to pull your ear back at a certain angle with your thumb and push them right in [15:07] awilkins: my ear canals are too small for those [15:08] ive always had probs with in ear which is what worries me [15:08] I got quite nice Shure headphones once and couldn't use 'em, even after ordering the extra extra extra small rubber bits [15:08] Yeah, I suppose it's like anything else that you wear that's a tight fit [15:09] think il buy the bose ones [15:09] gotta also remember..toothpaste..seem to forget it every time;p and some kind of small aftershave [15:10] the tennis is nice in hd..i wouldve liked to have seen the tennis in 3dbut they stopped doing it few years back:( [15:24] had em talking round in circles for 6 minutes, not bad [15:25] they didn't even get past my postcode and address before they gave up [15:25] gotta love the "uk survey centre" [15:26] spamcalls ftw [15:26] i just hang up [15:26] 6 minutes for them to realise I wasn't going to answer their survey questions seriously [15:26] my job isnt to speak to them [15:26] I like making them work for ti [15:27] i especially like it when i get the 'hi is that mr jones' 'mope 'who is it' 'doesnt matter to you..bye' [15:27] lol [15:27] this one wouldn't believe that my phone number can be reverse mapped using public records (BT phone directory) to my physical address - they insisted that I tell them what it is [15:29] I gave him a chance at least, I told him that he had the first three digits of my post code correct but the rest was wrong, and then I went further by telling him the last digit which left him with 26^26+10^10 potential combinations [15:29] less than that even [15:30] 126 combinations [15:30] 1 letter and two numbers [15:30] my math foo sucks [15:31] it's not 10^10 at all, it's 10^2 [15:31] somewhat of a large difference === Moon is now known as Guest8431 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW [17:25] http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2353009/windows-2000-added-more-new-users-in-june-than-windows-8 [17:25] :D [19:00] is btrfs safe to use for root yet? [19:01] http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/754674-using-bcache-to-soup-up-your-sata-drive [19:08] you might get more benefit from using BFQ [19:09] I don't know what that is *to google!* [19:09] aah a different queuing scheduler? [19:12] * diddledan settles down to watch the 15 minute demo vid === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [20:00] ST:FC e4. now. [20:00] stfc? [20:01] star trek the final crusade? [20:01] first contact [20:01] aah [20:01] where's me remote [20:01] :) [21:39] Well, that's a first. Went for a Tesco run after dinner and who else was in there buying sandwiches and a roll of Polos than the former primey John Major with his bodyguard. [21:40] oh dear. [21:42] I wonder if he ever shops at any other local shop than this one inaugurated by his wife in days of yore [21:43] ah. [21:44] argh [21:45] I can't finish my workmate :( [21:45] i bet he needs a bodyguard, just like alot of our current government do, they are so disliked. [21:46] most politicians are hated somewhere [21:46] well there are enough nutjobs for every uk prime I bet [21:46] yeah [21:47] and even some uk prime ministers are nutjobs the,selves. [21:47] like the current incumbant. [21:49] thankfully, not as bad as the previous bunch [21:50] well, they were not as bad as the current bunch, by some margin. [21:50] heh [23:16] evening [23:20] hey