[00:00] <qballer> intel has drivers for their video card
[00:00] <Caroga_mint> qballer: intel is not my area sadly
[00:01] <aramil> i need help installing windows xp to a 2nd hard drive with lubuntu 14.04 on 1st hard drive
[00:01] <qballer> bumer
[00:01] <qballer> anyone else ?
[00:02] <fhenning09> Hey guys anyone know how to pull all zip files from this site: http://video.udacity-data.com/zip/cs101/
[00:04] <aramil> anyone?
[00:06] <Caroga_mint> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/314951
[00:06] <Jeruvy> aramil why not just install virtualbox and install xp in that on the second hdd?  The preferred way to dual-boot is to install Windows first, then Ubuntu.
[00:06] <Caroga_mint> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/314952
[00:07] <funtable> i like virtualbox option
[00:07] <aramil> because from what i read i will need to do something with hardware profiles with a virtualbox install
[00:08] <Jeruvy> aramil then I would start over.
[00:08] <aramil> meaning uninstall lubuntu?
[00:09] <Jeruvy> Meaning install Windows XP, then install Ubuntu.
[00:09] <Caroga_mint> also, you could just install windows to the second partition/hdd and then boot up a live cd to install a new grub bootloader. aramil Jeruvy
[00:09] <Jeruvy> Caroga_mint thats aalso a decent option.
[00:09] <Caroga_mint> grub would pick up ubuntu as well and you'd have a nice dual boot without uninstalling ubuntu
[00:10] <Caroga_mint> takes less time and there is plenty of good documentation on how to install grub to 'recover' ubuntu
[00:10] <aramil> i cant get the windows install to work it needs to install some startup files but it only chooses the linux partion
[00:10] <OerHeks> imagebin contains malware (again)
[00:11] <Jordan_U> aramil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:11] <Caroga_mint> Jordan_U: u received screenshots?
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Caroga_mint: Please file a bug report about this.
[00:11] <Jordan_U> !bug | Caroga_mint
[00:12] <Caroga_mint> Jordan_U: GPT vs. MsDos partition table, what is a wise choice?
[00:12] <Jordan_U> Caroga_mint: In your case, the ideal would be to run "ubunut-bug ubiquity" while this error is showing.
[00:12] <Jordan_U> Caroga_mint: GPT allows for much more flexibility.
[00:13] <Caroga_mint> ty
[00:13] <Caroga_mint> Also, installing the bootloader to the Volume0 would be recommended right ?
[00:14] <aramil> what happens is when i select the partition that i used gparted to format for windows it says it needs to install files to the linux partition which it cant with out deleting it
[00:19] <bryan> hello I installed macbuntu on my ubuntu 14.04 but when it loads to the lockscreen it stays black anyone can help?
[00:20] <pooriya> hi
[00:21] <bryan>  hello I installed macbuntu on my ubuntu 14.04 but when it loads to the lockscreen it stays black anyone can help?
[00:21] <OerHeks> bryan, macbuntu is not supported here.
[00:22] <bryan> oh then where?
[00:22] <Caroga_mint> OerHeks: dutch ?
[00:22] <pooriya> what is the best download manager for ubuntu?
[00:22] <OerHeks> bryan, look at the page where you found macbuntu
[00:22] <OerHeks> Caroga_mint, jups
[00:22] <Caroga_mint> isnt macbuntu EOL ?
[00:23] <Caroga_mint> you can always pick the dutch people out of a crowd, wherever you go xD
[00:24] <pooriya> what is the best download manager for ubuntu?
[00:25] <funtable> pooriya, i like to download with 'wget' software
[00:25] <chreuben> pooriya: There are some excellent plugins for Chrome or Firefox.
[00:25] <Caroga_mint> lol funtable
[00:25] <funtable> =)
[00:25] <chreuben> pooriya: DownThemAll is popular.
[00:25] <pooriya> i like some app like idm ,
[00:25] <OerHeks> pooriya, that is a matter of opinion, http://askubuntu.com/questions/32850/what-download-managers-are-available-for-ubuntu
[00:26] <OerHeks> there is no single best.
[00:26] <aramil> so will i need to wipe lubuntu to install windows xp?
[00:26] <Caroga_mint> Jordan_U: I've created the bug report.
[00:26] <aramil> to dualboot
[00:27] <pooriya> tnx , any one have idm for wine?
[00:28] <OerHeks> aramil, the official guide says: install windows, then ubuntu
[00:28] <Caroga_mint> aramil: no, if you want a side2side installation with an existing ubuntu install then you could also just install windows where you want it and later use a livecd to "recover" the ubuntu installation
[00:28] <Caroga_mint> the livecd will need to install a new grub bootloader, which will pick up Windows and Ubuntu alongside each other.
[00:28] <OerHeks> aramil, but xp is worthless without updates :-D
[00:28] <Caroga_mint> XP is worthless, your sentence should have ended there.
[00:29] <aramil> but the windows install wants me to delete the linux partition even though there is a 30gb free hard drive
[00:29] <OerHeks> oke, forget the ":-D"
[00:30] <aramil> i want winxp for some games like the sims 1
[00:30] <pooriya> any one have idm for wine?
[00:32] <aramil> cant i create a new partition on the hard drive with linux installed with out destorying the whole thing? like /dev/sda2?
[00:32] <Caroga_mint> aramil: you can choose what windows should install and where, search for any advanced installation setup.
[00:32] <Caroga_mint> OerHeks: lol
[00:32] <Caroga_mint> aramil: why not run it in wine, use some program that installs the sims for u, or even create a virtualbox for it.
[00:33] <aramil> sims cant run it wine :-(
[00:33] <aramil> and i tried vb lagg
[00:34] <Caroga_mint> aramil: have you looked here? http://www.playonlinux.com/en/supported_apps-1-0.html
[00:34] <aramil> yes
[00:34] <Caroga_mint> ah bummer
[00:35] <aramil> sims 1 never could run in wine i tried
[00:35] <Caroga_mint> oke
[00:35] <Caroga_mint> Well I know that WinXP can be configured on different partitions as well, just search for it in the installation setup
[00:36] <OerHeks> aramil, is it a SATA hdd ?
[00:36] <aramil> i have no idea
[00:37] <Caroga_mint> smoke-break!
[00:38] <te> Caroga_mint_afk: Ive not seen it done, (WinXP installed and booting from a partition other than the first one).
[00:38] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Installing_Windows_After_Ubuntu
[00:39] <OerHeks> still the best way is windows first, then ubuntu
[00:39] <aramil> i could do that but i dont want to loose some things
[00:40] <OerHeks> aramil, well, you know how to do it, it is up to you
[00:40] <greggo> aramil, why windows 2nd and not 1st?
[00:40] <Frogging101> Where can I find a list of all past stable kernel releases?
[00:41] <Guest79020> :|
[00:41] <aramil> because lubuntu is on the first hard drive
[00:41] <greggo> hard drive or partition?
[00:41] <Caroga_mint_afk> frobware: http://kernel.org
[00:41] <Caroga_mint_afk> srro frobware
[00:41] <aramil> its on /dev/sda
[00:42] <Caroga_mint_afk> Frogging101: ^^
[00:42] <greggo> and you have a 2nd physical drive?
[00:42] <greggo> like a /dev/sdb
[00:42] <Frogging101> Caroga_mint_afk: Unfortunately I could not find it there
[00:42] <Frogging101> Those are all the current ones, I'm looking for past releases
[00:42] <aramil> yes /dev/sdb
[00:43] <greggo> are you trying to share the 2nd drive with Ubuntu and Windows? and leave /dev/sda dedicated to Lubuntu?
[00:43] <greggo> what's the desired end result?
[00:44] <Caroga_mint_afk> greggo: he wants to have a dual boot with winxp and lubuntu, separated over 2 hdd's
[00:44] <aramil> to have lubuntu on 1st hd and windows xp on hard drive 2 and boot ether one from grub
[00:44] <greggo> ok... i have similar set up, what problems?
[00:44] <greggo> oh grub
[00:45] <greggo> i never set up grub i just use my bios to select booting to either drive
[00:45] <aramil> grub is not whats wrong
[00:45] <greggo> but i'm set up exactly like that except i have 2 separate drives with Ubuntu on one  and (unfortunately) Windows on the other
[00:46] <OerHeks> Frogging101, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[00:46] <greggo> your bios have like a quick menu to pick drive to boot from?
[00:46] <Frogging101> OerHeks: Does this include mainline (i.e. not stable) kernel releases?
[00:47] <aramil> the windows installer complains about /dev/sda being not windows compatible because it wants to put some startup files there even though i select /dev/sdb
[00:47] <OerHeks> Frogging101, those are the kernels released, why do you want to know ?
[00:47] <Frogging101> Or is there a way to tell the difference
[00:47] <OerHeks> Frogging101, so some research yourself, if you do not believe that list.
[00:47] <CavemanSean> got another samba share question for you guys, I finally got it working how-ever now I see all these tdb files, is it possible to remove them without 'breaking' anything?
[00:47] <OerHeks> +
[00:47] <greggo> hmm. never run into that before, you have multiple Windows flavors to try out?
[00:48] <Frogging101> OerHeks: I do believe that list, but some releases are not "stable"
[00:48] <aramil> no
[00:48] <OerHeks> Frogging101, any old kernel is not stable anymore, so what is the use of your search ?
[00:48] <greggo> shooting in the dark but it sounds like a strange release of Windows.. got me kid.
[00:49] <Frogging101> Not stable anymore? But it was at one point marked as stable.
[00:50] <greggo> since when does windows refer to drives as /dev/sda though? i'm a lil fuzzy but i thought Windows called drives by some other naming scheme
[00:50] <aramil> it calls them hd0,0 i think or something like that
[00:51] <greggo> absolutely sure you're picking the right drive then?
[00:51] <aramil> yes
[00:51] <usr13> CavemanSean: I don't know what "tdb" files would have to do with anything. Are "tdb" files for some sort of database?
[00:52] <CavemanSean> no idea, heh' I just reboot the file server and seen them >_> figured Ubuntu created them because they all have samba in their name
[00:52] <greggo> aramil:  have you tried unplugging one drive?
[00:52] <usr13> CavemanSean: So, if you get rid of some "tdb" files, I suppose you might break some sort of database system...
[00:52] <greggo> install separately with just one drive plugged in, then plug them both in
[00:52] <OerHeks> CavemanSean, no > https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/tdb.html
[00:52] <aramil> maybe that will work
[00:53] <usr13> CavemanSean: Just move them or rename them and see.
[00:53] <aramil> i could try installing xp with just one hd plugged in
[00:53] <greggo> yes
[00:54] <aramil> ok i will go do that then thanks for the help :-D
[00:54] <usr13> OerHeks: Oh, ok.  Thanks for the info.
[00:54] <greggo> good luck aramil
[00:57] <Caroga_> Oef im so glad ive made a backup image first xD
[00:58] <chreuben> Backups — oh man… I used to run a software project, but I lost the whole codebase because I forgot to back it up.
[00:58] <chreuben> It was a disaster recovery project, too. I guess that’s fitting, somehow.
[00:58] <Caroga_> auch
[00:58] <somsip> chreuben: no, it's ironic :)
[00:58] <Caroga_> sucks man
[00:59] <Caroga_> holy shit, its already 3am 0.o
[00:59] <chreuben> Caroga_: France? Germany?
[00:59] <Caroga_> Netherlands.
[00:59] <Caroga_> Winning country of the WC14 ;-)
[00:59] <chreuben> Ohh! Thanks for Lillyhammer (the TV series). <3
[00:59] <Caroga_> No problem, glad to be of service.
[01:00] <Caroga_> Any requests we could do ?
[01:00] <Caroga_> OerHeks: where u from btw?
[01:02] <Caroga_> OerHeks: if u live nearby Rotterdam and are interested in php development, or wanna hang out at coolblue's HQ, then you should join my meetup next Thursday ;-)
[01:04] <Glorfindel> what is the command for unlocking swap space partitions in gparted?
[01:06] <OerHeks> Caroga_, we might be better talk about this in #ubuntu-nl or #ubuntu-nl-offtopic
[01:09] <gr33n7007h> Glorfindel, type swapoff in terminal should do it
[01:09] <Glorfindel> alright, thanks
[01:10] <Glorfindel> someone told me earlier but I just couldn't remember lol
[01:11] <gr33n7007h> Glorfindel, or in gparted right click on swap and unlock it
[01:11] <histo> Glorfindel: swapoff as I told you before
[01:11] <histo> Glorfindel: why are you doing this again?
[01:11] <Glorfindel> I didn't get it done in the first run
[01:12] <histo> Glorfindel: ahh..  Why are you moving swap again by the way?
[01:12] <eloquentmess> Does anyone know how I can force an application (or the whole system) to use software gl rendering instead of hardware gl rendering? 14.04
[01:12] <Glorfindel> making more room for a new partition for data recovery
[01:12] <histo> Glorfindel: why not just remove swap, resize /  and use a swapfile instead.
[01:12] <histo> Glorfindel: for data recovery from where?
[01:12] <Glorfindel> a differant hdd
[01:13] <histo> Glorfindel: don't you have room in /
[01:13] <Glorfindel> nope
[01:13] <Glorfindel> I made it kinda small
[01:14] <histo> Glorfindel: ahh well how big is your swap?
[01:14] <Glorfindel> 5 gig
[01:14] <histo> Glorfindel: what else is on the drive that you don't have room?
[01:15] <Glorfindel> Windows Server 08 and a ubuntu 8.04 partition
[01:15] <Glorfindel> *an
[01:15] <histo> wow 8.04, I remember that.
[01:16] <histo> Glorfindel: You could data recover to any of those partitions you realize right?
[01:17] <Glorfindel> yes, but none of them are big enough, I have the hdd very mixed up from having Xanderos on here as well as the other two, an Ubuntu 12 partition, and this 14.04 partition
[01:18] <eloquentmess> Wow… Are you releasing software for multiple targets? Why so many different (and outdated) OSes?
[01:18] <Glorfindel> I was trying a bunch out
[01:18] <eloquentmess> I understand that.
[01:19] <Glorfindel> the pc came with WinServer I got a dvd with a bunch of outdated OSes on it and installed some, along with Ubuntu 12 from a usb stick
[01:20] <Glorfindel> and then updated one of the 12 installations to 14.04
[01:20] <Caroga_> last time trying to install ubuntu on my device...if this fails, ill just go straight to bed..
[01:20] <eloquentmess> Caroga_: What device?
[01:21] <Glorfindel> Well, thanks for the help guys :) I appreciate it :)
[01:21] <eloquentmess> :-)
[01:21]  * Glorfindel hands out cookies to everyone
[01:21] <eloquentmess> YAY!
[01:21] <Caroga_> eloquentmess: my vaio laptop. It worked before, but somehow 14.04 don't feels like doing it.
[01:21] <Caroga_> eloquentmess: i also reported a bug earlier.
[01:22] <eloquentmess> Interesting. I wonder why the update broke it.
[01:24] <Caroga_> eloquentmess: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1337642
[01:24] <usr13> Caroga_: What is your device?
[01:25] <Caroga_> usr13: vaio vpcz2
[01:26] <Caroga_> last try, initiating
[01:26] <usr13> Caroga_: What seems to be the problem?
[01:27] <eloquentmess> usr13: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1337642
[01:27] <Caroga_> usr13: well, I've finally fixed to get ubuntu installing on proper partitions, but after the reboot it says it cannot find a OS system. Bootloader doesnt seem to be going wel. Now using MSDOS partition table.
[01:27] <Caroga_> also, ^^
[01:29] <usr13> Caroga_: Do you tell it to install the bootloader to the MBR (Master Boot Record)?
[01:29] <Caroga_> usr13, eloquentmess, if got passed that point now. Only need to get the system booting properly. Still made the bug report as requested by Jordan_U
[01:29] <pgnome> can't minimize anything either !   dsfkljasdklfuibuntu!@!21werq
[01:29] <Caroga_> Yes I did. I am using RAID0 here, so i told it to install it to the Volume0 stripped location.
[01:30] <Caroga_> usr13: which i did in the passed as well and without worries. I just found that /dev/sda one had a faulty GPT table, so i erased that one.
[01:30] <Caroga_> Now falling back to using MSDOS tables. See if that helps.
[01:31] <Caroga_not_here> afk, smoke time, again.
[01:32] <Caroga_not_here> usr13: eloquentmess ill let u guys know if this helps, also will update the bug report if needed.
[01:32] <usr13> !uefi | Caroga_not_here
[01:32] <eloquentmess> :-) I hope it does.
[01:32] <eloquentmess> ubottu is pretty handy.
[01:32] <eloquentmess> But you’re still handy!
[01:34] <OerHeks> !cookie | ubottu
[01:35] <OerHeks> !cookie | eloquentmess
[01:35] <eloquentmess> What? Did you just cheat at cookie-obtaining?
[01:35] <eloquentmess> !cookie | eloquentmess
[01:35] <pgnome> ubuntu's desktops - awful!!!!!!!!!
[01:35] <eloquentmess> !cookie | ubottu
[01:36] <eloquentmess> lol
[01:36] <usr13> pgnome: We are glad you like it.
[01:36] <OerHeks> pgnome, there are more than one desktop to choose from.
[01:36] <pgnome> too many damn windows
[01:36] <eloquentmess> pgnome probably likes the gnome desktop.
[01:36] <usr13> or maybe xfce
[01:36] <eloquentmess> Yeah, why can’t we all go back to CLI, like back in the good old days?
[01:36] <eloquentmess> All these fancy GUIs make us sissies.
[01:36] <pgnome> can you use MATE with it?  anyone try that?
[01:37] <eloquentmess> That’s gross, why would you mate with Ubuntu?
[01:37] <Caroga_not_here> LOLQ
[01:37] <usr13> eloquentmess: We can ( Ctl-Alt-F6 )
[01:37] <Caroga_> eloquentmess, usr13, it works!
[01:37] <OerHeks> pgnome, mate is a sad desktop, trying to preserve gnome2 ( which is dead)
[01:37] <eloquentmess> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-mate-18-in-ubuntu.html
[01:37] <cn98cn983n34> hi
[01:37] <usr13> Caroga_: Awesome!
[01:37] <eloquentmess> Caroga_ YAY!
[01:37] <Caroga_> uber yay!
[01:38] <Caroga_> Jordan_U: finally got it to work ;-)
[01:38] <Caroga_> I am so glad to see the ubuntu interface on my laptop again, such a nice and comfy view!
[01:38] <eloquentmess> :D
[01:39] <Caroga_> now lets hope that it doesnt overheat anymore... there was this really weird bug where my CPU/GPU overheated like crazy while being idle
[01:39] <usr13> Caroga_: We are glad you like it.
[01:39] <Caroga_> usr13: yeah, I really love it! Cannot work on anything else anymore
[01:40] <Caroga_> but, sadly, it now is time to get my sleeps
[01:40] <Caroga_> almost 4am here.
[01:40] <eloquentmess> I use my Mac for school, but I’ve got Ubuntu (or a derivative) on every other computer I own.
[01:40] <eloquentmess> Sleep well Caroga_!
[01:40] <Caroga_> thanks a bunch everyone! Ill check in tomorrow again, with my proper IRC account.
[01:41] <Caroga_> Adios amigos!
[01:56] <CavemanSean> Hmmm yet again another samba issue :( got the share working, got all my files loaded on there, I can 'see' the files (great, as I want the guests to view and open the files but to write to the directory) but I can't open any files (they are all music files.)  any ideas?
[02:01] <w4|k3r> :ls
[02:04] <SuperBawlz> Anyone have a good guide for setting up a mail server?
[02:04] <Roey> hi
[02:05] <gartral> SuperBawlz: that's a heck of a question, hinging heavily on "Does your ISP block port 25 at all?"
[02:05] <Roey> mmm hello I need some help here, I can't hear audio.. only from the command-lien tty and then only as long as I am on that tty, else the audio cuts out.  When I'm in the graphical TTY, I don't hear audio.  Anyone have any idea?
[02:05] <Roey> s/the/a command-line TTY
[02:05] <SuperBawlz> No. I have a server co-lo'ed in NYC
[02:06] <SuperBawlz> Besides, I am only wanting to receive mail
[02:06] <SuperBawlz> I know about the blocks though, I used to run an ISP.
[02:06] <gartral> SuperBawlz: ok, there are a few options.. seeing as you mainly want a "mail sink" server, setup is easier..
[02:06] <SuperBawlz> I can deal with changing the port later if I need to. I'm more concerned with getting it set up.
[02:07] <SuperBawlz> mail sink?
[02:07] <gartral> SuperBawlz: kinda my own term.. basicially a machine dedicated as a mail client
[02:07] <SuperBawlz> that's a term that I haven't heard.
[02:07] <SuperBawlz> No.
[02:08] <SuperBawlz> I need to be email to send email to user@mail.myserver.com
[02:08] <SuperBawlz> sorry
[02:08] <SuperBawlz> got distracted
[02:08] <SuperBawlz> I need to be able to email my server using user@mail.myserver.com
[02:09] <SuperBawlz> I have an application that will grab the message from its mailbox on the server and strip it for information.
[02:09] <SuperBawlz> The application runs on the same server.
[02:09] <gartral> SuperBawlz: ahhh ok.. hang on
[02:10] <SuperBawlz> I'm setting our CRM up to send copies of some stuff to it so it can strip certain information out and place it in a database.
[02:10] <w4|k3r> !list
[02:11] <gartral> SuperBawlz: you probably want Postfix and Courier... and Mailman if your looking to do a mailing list
[02:12] <SuperBawlz> No mailing list
[02:12] <SuperBawlz> postfix and courier
[02:12] <SuperBawlz> ok.
[02:13] <SuperBawlz> is it postfix and courier?
[02:13] <SuperBawlz> or is it postfix or courier?
[02:13] <gartral> SuperBawlz: Dovecot is the most widely used MDA, but Courier has facilities to do more or less what your looking for
[02:13] <gartral> SuperBawlz: you want both
[02:14] <gartral> brb
[02:15] <SuperBawlz> Yeah, my previous attempt was with postfix and dovecot
[02:15] <SuperBawlz> Couldn't find a guide that was for the newer version though.
[02:17] <jay_> hey friends. i am trying GNOME. the exact program name from ubuntu software manager is Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components
[02:17] <jay_> how do i remove this safely and entirely when i'm done with it?
[02:18] <jay_> holstein, i'm looking at you
[02:18] <jay_> or anyone else with a good answer for me lol
[02:20] <usr13> jay_: You want to remove what?
[02:20] <Beldar> jay_, sudo apt-get remove "package name as installed"
[02:21] <usr13> jay_: Can't you just go into the package manager and find it?
[02:21] <jay_> ok Beldar here's my question. what exactly do i type for the package name?
[02:21] <usr13> jay_: How did you install it?
[02:21] <jay_> it's name is "Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components"
[02:21] <jay_> through the ubuntu software manager
[02:22] <usr13> jay_: Then go there and uninstall it.
[02:22] <Beldar> jay_, Never heard of the extra component's but ubuntu-gnome-desktop is the de name
[02:22] <jay_> ah but see, i did that with KDE usr13 and it didn't uninstall like 30 freakin' KDE programs. just the desktop
[02:22] <jay_> i want it ALL removed when i'm done
[02:22] <usr13> jay_: You found it once, you can find it again.
[02:23] <Beldar> jay_, Be careful gnome 3 underlies unity and other desktops.
[02:23] <Jordan_U> jay_: Does "sudo apt-get autoremove" prompt you to remove anything now? If not, then after you remove the metapackage it will, and those things that it prompts to remove will be everything that was installed when you installed that package. apt-get autoremove removes all pacakges that were automatically installed as a dependency of a package that has since been removed.
[02:23] <usr13> jay_: But why?  Are you running low on disk space?
[02:23] <jay_> oh neato Jordan_U ! that's exactly what i need!
[02:24] <Roey> usr13:  I don't see it advancing when I do that command
[02:24] <Roey> it is just frozen there
[02:24] <Roey> doesn't respond to input
[02:24] <usr13> Roey: What command?
[02:24] <jay_> no usr13. because i'll never use it again. i'm just checking out different DEs and it's annoying to have 30 "K" programs to sift through after i uninstall it
[02:25] <usr13> jay_: Ok, so uninstall it.
[02:25] <jay_> Jordan_U,  i assume there is a website for this, but could you direct me to where i can get a list of how to use apt?
[02:25] <Roey> usr13:  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[02:25] <jay_> and it's commands of course
[02:26] <Beldar> jay_, If you use apt-get to install a desktop you might remove later copy paste those install packages to a text doc for a removal list.
[02:26] <jay_> usr13, uninstalling doesn't get ride of all the extra K programs it installs
[02:26] <usr13> Roey: Oh ok.  Sorry...
[02:26] <Roey> heh
[02:26] <usr13> Roey: Well, does it give an error message?
[02:26] <jay_> Beldar, i don't know how to use apt yet
[02:26] <jay_> i do everything through the software centre
[02:26] <Roey> not that I see, usr13
[02:27] <Roey> it doesn't even respond to ctrl-c
[02:27] <Roey> I have to ctrl-z and kill %1
[02:27] <usr13> Roey: Does it show progress on playing the files?
[02:27] <Roey> usr13:  it does not
[02:27] <jay_> so i'm not sure what you mean by copy and paste those install packages. i dunno what the packages look like to recognize them
[02:27] <Roey> usr13:  it just sits at 00
[02:27] <usr13> Roey: What does it do?  (Can you pastebin what you see there in the terminal?)
[02:28] <usr13> !paste| Roey
[02:28] <Roey> it shows me the sox play command.  I'll paste it
[02:28] <usr13> Roey: Ok
[02:28] <Beldar> jay_, Fairly straight forward apt-get install for install apt-get remove for remove apt-get purge for purging, purging takes configs out. all these with a sudo. This is what you would have used here
[02:28] <Bashing-om> jay_: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites , debian, completely applies to ubunt package management system.
[02:28] <jay_> Beldar,  the problem with the software centre is that it doesn't uninstall all of the items it installed. so i need to learn apt but don't know it yet
[02:29] <usr13> jay_: Did you see what Jordan_U said?
[02:29] <Beldar> !apt-get | jay_
[02:29] <Roey> usr13:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7745031/
[02:29] <jay_> yes. Jordan_U gave me the answer i was looking for
[02:29] <usr13> jay_: "apt-get autoremove removes all pacakges that were automatically installed as a dependency of a package that has since been removed"
[02:30] <gartral> SuperBawlz: you still here?
[02:31] <jay_> do i have to use sudo in from of that command Jordan_U ?
[02:31] <SuperBawlz> Ok, I got postfix set up but I think its messed up. I emailed it from my gmail account and I see where it looks like it received it, the folder exists for the user under /var/mail but I have no messages and the size of the mailbox is 0
[02:32] <usr13> Roey: alsamixer
[02:32] <holstein> jay_: generally, you'll be aware if you need sudo or not. permissions error
[02:32] <usr13> Roey: (un-mute what is muted and / or turn up what is turned down.)
[02:32] <jay_> """"""Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components"""""" <--- that's the name of the program i'm installing from ubuntu software manager. what would be the apt command to uninstall it?
[02:33] <gartral> SuperBawlz: hmm.. you find the totorial?
[02:33] <holstein> jay_: i suggest trying live CD's or a VM. an installation in virtualbox, where you can take a snapshot and install what you like and easily revert to the snapshot
[02:33] <jay_> holstein, that was way over my head
[02:34] <holstein> jay_: just ask a support question, then.. or, use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[02:34] <jay_> i don't know anything about virtual machines or virtual box or snapshots and whatnot
[02:34] <Roey> usr13:  I just did
[02:34] <Roey> still no sound
[02:34] <Roey> and neither in headphones nor spdif output.
[02:34] <SuperBawlz> Jul  3 22:33:16 wosys postfix/local[23975]: 78DAF1211B3: to=<email@domain.com>, orig_to=<email@domain.com>, relay=local, delay=0.07, delays=0.06/0/0/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: procmail -a "$EXTENSION")
[02:34] <holstein> jay_: you would have had to have used the live CD, however.. which was my first suggestion
[02:34] <usr13> Roey: Is this a laptop or desktop we are working on?
[02:34] <Roey> desktop
[02:34] <holstein> !virtualbox
[02:34] <Jordan_U> jay_: The package name is "gnome".
[02:35] <usr13> Roey: Are the speakers plugged into correct port?
[02:35] <jay_> how did you find that out Jordan_U ? how can i find out package names from ubuntu software centre?
[02:35] <moghingold> Hi all, I'm having a problem where I have to manually reassemble my mdadm array after each boot cycle. can anyone help me diagnose why it isn't assembling automatically?
[02:35] <holstein> jay_: you can search with the search function.. or use synaptic, or the terminal.. "apt-cache search gnome".. or, you can do a package search on the internet
[02:36] <ulkesh> I have a ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad on my Samsung Series 9 ultrabook...I'm running Ubuntu 14.04...it works pretty well except that I want to disable the right side of the touchpad such that it will no longer right click.  I want to keep two-finger touch to right click (and of course one finger left click and two finger scroll)...how would I go about disabling the right click on the right side of the touchpad?
[02:36] <Jordan_U> jay_: I did a google search for "GNOME Extra components". It's also possible to use "apt-cache search", or search http://packages.ubuntu.com. I'm sure that Software Center also displays the package name somewhere, but I don't ever use it so I can't help you there.
[02:37] <jay_> wait a minute. i see the word gnome under the main title. is that how they're all organized in the software centre?
[02:37] <jay_> i think that's how they do it Jordan_U
[02:38] <holstein> jay_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[02:38] <SuperBawlz> fixed it
[02:39] <neldogz> So i setup a share on my Ubuntu 14.04 desktop.. and from another ubuntu 14.04 machine I am simply trying to map that share.. Every time i try I am prompted to enter a user name domain and password.. What do i enter for domain if i dont have a traditional domain setup? all systems are simply .local
[02:40] <usr13> neldogz: I just use nfs
[02:40] <Jordan_U> jay_: So if you run "sudo apt-get remove gnome" then "sudo apt-get autoremove" it will remove all of the components you installed as part of installing KDE and gnome *but* it might also install other components that are similarly "orphaned", so if you're worried about losing an app you like accidentally you should check the list carefully (though, it will be *very* long).
[02:40] <jay_> Jordan_U,  apt-cache search worked perfectly. then i used the find feature and found it quickly!
[02:41] <neldogz> usr13.. I am trying to follow how Ubuntu implements it..
[02:41] <jay_> check what list carefully Jordan_U ?
[02:41] <fdfdjdjdjdj> guys, on lubuntu 14.04 i'm finding that the graphics card is not properly set up because the whole screen and text is slightly unclear, how do i sharpen it?
[02:41] <holstein> jay_: go ahead and check *all* lists carefullly
[02:41] <neldogz> I just right clicked on the folder and selected local network share
[02:41] <neldogz> But cannot map to it for the life of me
[02:42] <usr13> fdfdjdjdjdj: xrandr
[02:42] <Jordan_U> jay_: The list of packages that "sudo apt-get autoremove" will give you when it prompts you to confirm that you really want to remove all of those packages.
[02:42] <moghingold> Hi all, I'm having a problem where I have to manually reassemble my mdadm array after each boot cycle. can anyone help me diagnose why it isn't assembling automatically?
[02:43] <usr13> neldogz: I've never figured out what "map" means in conversations about network shares.
[02:43] <jay_> oh ok i didn't know it'd prompt me first. if i see a program i want in the list, then what do i do to exclude it?
[02:43] <neldogz> usr13, basically under Network I am selecting Connect to Server.. the entering smb://machine.local/share
[02:44] <fdfdjdjdjdj> usr13: i did xrandr and it already on native resolution and at native refresh rate.
[02:44] <neldogz> then i am prompted for a username domain and password.. but none of the credentials work.. I wonder if I am missing something?
[02:44] <usr13> neldogz: I just use nfs
[02:44] <Jordan_U> jay_: Cancel and run "sudo apt-get install packagename", since it's already installed, that will mark it as "manually installed", meaning you chose to install it directly rather than it being brought in by something else.
[02:45] <usr13> fdfdjdjdjdj: What kind of monitor is it?
[02:45] <neldogz> usr13, why would Ubuntu implement this feature if its fundamentally broken
[02:45] <fdfdjdjdjdj> i have two monitors, a 23 inch 1920x1080 monitor, and a 17 inch 1280x1024 monitor, it looks unsharp on both of them.
[02:46] <jay_> ohhhh snap. you're a smart cookie Jordan_U
[02:46] <cfhowlett> neldogz ask in #ubuntu-server or in ##linux
[02:46] <jay_> that makes sense to me.  :)
[02:47] <jay_> Jordan_U, is there a way to look at a package i'm unsure of to see it's description in terminal?
[02:47] <jay_> that way, i know what it does before i uninstall it?
[02:47] <holstein> jay_: yes.. you can read the list, and parse what its going to do
[02:48] <jay_> parse?
[02:48] <holstein> jay_: yes.. by reading,
[02:48] <jay_> i realize i could go to synaptic and check the package there, but it'd be easier to check in terminal but a quick command
[02:48] <holstein> jay_: "easy" is relative..
[02:49] <Jordan_U> jay_: apt-cache show packagename
[02:50] <jay_> perfect! damn you're good!
[02:50] <jay_> exactly what i wanted to know man
[02:50] <jay_> now, i can understand what all the package do muahahaha
[02:50] <jay_> apt is pretty neat it seems like
[02:50] <fdfdjdjdjdj> usr13: i have two monitors, a 23 inch 1920x1080 monitor, and a 17 inch 1280x1024 monitor, it looks unsharp on both of them. [10:46] <jay_> ohhhh snap. you're a smart cookie Jordan_U
[02:50] <jay_> i'm going to have to learn that bad boy
[02:50] <holstein> jay_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[02:51] <jay_> holstein, i got it bookmarked for later :)
[02:52] <jay_> right now, i'm going to try out gnome :)
[02:52] <jay_> tty guys. thanks for your help once again!
[02:53] <ulkesh> I have a ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad on my Samsung Series 9 ultrabook...I'm running Ubuntu 14.04...it works pretty well except that I want to disable the right side of the touchpad such that it will no longer right click.  I want to keep two-finger touch to right click (and of course one finger left click and two finger scroll)...how would I go about disabling the right click on the right side of the touchpad?
[02:53] <fdfdjdjdjdj> where is the equivalent of control panel in lubuntu 14.04?
[02:55] <Douglas_> someone can help me
[02:55] <Douglas_> alguém do Brasil?
[02:55] <cfhowlett> !brazil
[02:55] <cfhowlett> !brazilian
[02:55] <cfhowlett> !pt
[02:56] <cfhowlett> !portuguese
[02:56] <Beldar> Douglas_, Yes if in english here is all.
[02:58] <SuperBawlz> My pop3 service isn't letting me log in. The log shows this, " pop3d: authentication error: No such file or directory"
[02:58] <SuperBawlz> any thoughts?
[03:00] <Douglas_> how to reset ubuntu?
[03:01] <Douglas_> I upgraded to gnome 3.12 and I can not go back to 3:10
[03:01] <Rad-> Can you make a .deb file if you're not on a debian based system?
[03:01] <Douglas_> i use ubuntu
[03:03] <Douglas_> someone?
[03:03] <Rad-> hi Douglas_ .
[03:03] <io> what do you mean by reset?
[03:05] <Douglas_> I use gnome. and upgraded to 3.12. but the unity disappeared from the login screen .. and I can not go back to gnome 3:10
[03:05] <Douglas_> so I wanted to reset the settings
[03:07] <holstein> Douglas_: you added a PPA?
[03:07] <SynRAD> #ubnto.
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[03:08] <holstein> Douglas_: you can use ppa-purge to get back to using ubuntu
[03:09] <holstein> gnome ppa's usually break unity like taht..
[03:09] <holstein> that*
[03:11] <holstein> Douglas_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed
[03:11] <Douglas_> succeeded.. tanks.. and sorry my bad english
[03:17] <apeoid> I upgraded gnome terminal to 3.10.2 and now it doesn't have a background transparency setting.  I kind of used that feature, and like it, a lot.  what do?
[03:17] <apeoid> should I use a different terminal or try to achieve the effect with some other tools?
[03:17] <holstein> apeoid: with a PPA?
[03:17] <apeoid> yea
[03:18] <holstein> apeoid: you can use ppa-purge to get back to using ubuntu
[03:18] <holstein> or, just use another terminal with the features you like..
[03:19] <apeoid> what do you recommend?  I'm new to linux
[03:19] <holstein> apeoid: i recommend not useing ppa's if you are new to ubuntu
[03:19] <holstein> using*
[03:21] <jay_> i just want to say GNOME is beautiful.
[03:21] <holstein> jay_: sure.. use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat like that.. thanks :)
[03:22] <lastarms> Hi people, I'm wondering, why does some partitions does not show up in blkid?
[03:27] <lastarms> anyone?
[03:31] <xjkx> I'm having trouble deciding between 13.10 and 14.04, doesnt it mean going 14.04 I'm downgrading ? Considering .04 are tested, tested, tested, and they dont go to all the most recent versions of applications ?
[03:32] <gr33n7007h> lastarms, which partitions aren't showing up?
[03:32] <_2_caquis> Hola :3
[03:32] <cfhowlett> !es|_2_caquis
[03:32] <_2_caquis> ...que
[03:34] <xjkx> 13.10 or 14.04 ? Which would have the newer packages ?
[03:34] <x9> wanting to play a game, but I need the SDL_image libraries... where/how can I download this?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> x9 where did you get the game?
[03:35] <x9> cfhowlett: it's AssaultCube, downloaded from the official website/SourceForge
[03:35] <OerHeks> xjkx, what do you think yourself ? newer versions never have OLDER packages
[03:36] <cfhowlett> x9 look on the sourceforge page for your libraries and/or instructions
[03:36] <xjkx> OerHeks: What I think: .04 is supposed to be a long term/stable version, so it doesnt risk going to the most updated softwares, unlike 13.10 that is not supposed to be as stable, and they're always upgrading
[03:37] <holstein> xjkx: no
[03:37] <holstein> xjkx: 14.04 is newer.. ubuntu is not a rolling release
[03:37] <gr33n7007h> x9, sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2-dev maybe?
[03:37] <phamminhtam> Gì thế này...?
[03:37] <cfhowlett> phamminhtam ??? in English please
[03:38] <xjkx> holstein: in newbie terms, not a rolling releasing means what ?
[03:38] <Bashing-om> xjkx: Release 13.10 is an interum relase and reached End_Of_Life this month, 14.04 is the current Long_Term_Support release supported 'til 2019.// release version dates -> 13.10 release in the year 2013 in October(10th month), 14.04 released in 2014 in April (4th month).
[03:39] <holstein> the releases of ubuntu get frozen in time, basically.. only security updates
[03:39] <x9> 3 months until 14.10, wow
[03:39] <xjkx> Bashing-om: Wow, they're not supporting 13.10 ? Before releasing 14.10 :o
[03:39] <holstein> 14.10 is not an LTS, though.. if that means anything
[03:40] <x9> it's still another release, and that's always cool
[03:40] <holstein> xjkx: *all* non lts releases are promised 9 months support
[03:40] <xjkx> I've always used the .10 so you guys excuse me for the newbieness
[03:40] <holstein> xjkx: there is no reason to "use the .10" version
[03:41] <holstein> xjkx: i mean, if you want to stay current, use the current versions.. if you want long term support, use the long term support
[03:41] <cfhowlett> xjkx this ^^^
[03:42] <xjkx> I kinda like being current, but its been said 13.10 is out of date, and 14.04 is the newer, so, I kinda dont have a choice if I need to install now, seems the smart way to go is 14.04
[03:42] <holstein> xjkx: no,.. its not "been said".. thats is fact.. 13.10 is EOL
[03:42] <histo> xjkx: 13.10 isn't eol yet
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !13.10
[03:43] <holstein> xjkx: this is all open, and you *always* have a choice.. you can support 13.10 and/or use it as long as you please
[03:43] <histo> xjkx: but will be soon
[03:43] <holstein> xjkx: 14.04 will be support for *5* years
[03:43] <xjkx> Hmm
[03:43] <xjkx> Very helpful, thank you all
[03:43] <histo> xjkx: every even .04 is long term.  like 10.04 12.04 14.04 etc...
[03:44] <holstein> xjkx: 13.10 is not going to be deleted from your machine.. its just not getting updates automatically sent from volunteers or paid persons from ubuntu
[03:44] <histo> !releases | xjkx
[03:44] <xjkx> histo: they went from 12.04 to 14.04 right ? I dont remember 13.04
[03:45] <histo> xjkx: the first number is the year 14 <<  the second number is the month .04<<< April
[03:45] <xjkx> Hmm
[03:45] <histo> xjkx: xjkx every six months there is a relase.
[03:46] <histo> xjkx: you can upgrade from Long Term Support to Long Term Support like 12.04 > 14.04   every other release in between is a point release and has to be ugpraded in order 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04
[03:47] <xjkx> Alright, thanks
[03:47] <lastarms> gr33n7007h: sorry, I left to do something
[03:48] <lastarms> gr33n7007h: I had 4 partition. 2 shows up and the other 2 does not. exfat format
[03:48] <lastarms> gr33n7007h: and it should still be MBR as it shows up in fdisk
[03:48] <gr33n7007h> lastarms, what does lsblk show?
[03:49] <histo> lastarms: sudo parted -l /dev/of/disk
[03:49] <gr33n7007h> lastarms, ls /dev/saX*
[03:50] <gr33n7007h> lastarms, ls /dev/sdX*
[03:50] <lastarms> gr33n7007h: lsblk shows the partition just fine. I can mount it via the mount command
[03:50] <gr33n7007h> lastarms, but they don't show up using blkid?
[03:50] <lastarms> gr33n7007h: nope
[03:51] <gr33n7007h> lastarms, hmm... strange
[03:51] <lastarms> histo: that will take me to parted no? what is that command supposed to show?
[03:51] <lastarms> histo: Backtrace has 0 calls on stack:
[03:51] <gr33n7007h> lastarms, basically the same as fdisk -l
[03:52] <lastarms> I have a few hdd attached and they showed up fine. And 2 partition shows up fine, just the last 2 does not have uuid.... is that possible?
[03:53] <CharlesIC> hello
[03:53] <CharlesIC> anyone around?
[03:53] <histo> lastarms: it will print out the partitions
[03:53] <atheist> yeah
[03:53] <cfhowlett> CharlesIC only a few thousands
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !ask|CharlesIC
[03:54] <histo> lastarms: are you going to need to recover the missing partitions?
[03:54] <CharlesIC> i want /foobar/media/video accessible to webserver.webserver
[03:54] <CharlesIC> but not /foobar/media/
[03:54] <lastarms> histo: nope, it's just that the HDD likes to mix about. hence instead of /dev/sda in fstab, uuid will be more reliable no?
[03:55] <lastarms> CharlesIC: .htaccess
[03:55] <CharlesIC> hmm
[03:55] <CharlesIC> lastarms, well, /foobar is a dir i share through sshfs generally
[03:55] <CharlesIC> mounting it remotely, etc
[03:55] <lastarms> CharlesIC: hence .htaccess
[03:56] <nabil> hey guys
[03:56] <nabil> where can i get help about linux
[03:57] <CharlesIC> lastarms, ok, so i can leave /foobar and /foobar/media 770?
[03:57] <nabil> grub bootloader more specifically
[03:57] <lastarms> CharlesIC: yeap
[03:57] <holstein> nabil: maybe a linux channel.. you can ask for support for ubuntu here
[03:57] <lastarms> nabil: grub channel?
[03:57] <holstein> !grub | nabil
[03:57] <mjessome> Hello; Just giving Ubuntu a try, but I want to stick with a tiling wm. Everything works great with unity (function keys for volume, etc, etc) but when I launch just dwm, nothing works -- not even audio itself. I've been looking into the xdg autostart, but it seems like things such as indicator-power-service require Unity in order to run. Is there any way around this?
[03:58] <nabil> no I actually installed mint 17 alongside windows 7
[03:58] <holstein> !mint
[03:58] <nabil> and id like a better boot
[03:58] <nabil> something that looks nicer
[03:58] <holstein> nabil: you are free to read the ubuntu grub wiki, though..
[03:58] <CharlesIC> lastarms, i dont need to +x /foobar and /foobar/media?
[03:59] <nabil> holstein: where can i find that
[03:59] <holstein> nabil: i say, think about how much you *actually* see that screen, and what is happening there.. things are just working fine
[03:59] <holstein> nabil: i linked the grub documentation above ^^
[04:00] <nabil> holstein: ya thats true
[04:01] <nabil> holstein: i tried to do it a while ago and ended up ruining my whole pc lol
[04:01] <x9> there are two realtek wireless chips on my computer right now, one of them isn't connecting to the internet and the other just drops randomly
[04:02] <holstein> nabil: correct. thats why i say, leave it be.. and enjoy the functionality..
[04:03] <CharlesIC> lastarms, can you help me a little more?
[04:03] <lastarms> CharlesIC: I don't remember the limitation for sshfs
[04:04] <CharlesIC> lastarms, it's not related to that
[04:04] <holstein> mjessome: consider something in the middle, like lxde
[04:04] <lastarms> CharlesIC: just make sure that your intended folder is accessible from the web, and then use .htaccess to limit the access of the previous folder
[04:05] <CharlesIC> lastarms, well, im trying to avoid anything more than 770 for /foobar and /foobar/media
[04:05] <CharlesIC> so at the moment, the web can't access /foobar/ or /foobar/media
[04:05] <lastarms> CharlesIC: +x is for executable. I don't think you need +x for them, unless you have a script that needs to be run by php
[04:05] <CharlesIC> lastarms, i know, i just kept having some guy arguing with me about that in another chan
[04:05] <CharlesIC> he didn't like that i didn't want to do it that way
[04:05] <lastarms> ?
[04:06] <CharlesIC> it's for plexmediaserver
[04:06] <lastarms> CharlesIC: try using 777 and see i it's accessable from the web
[04:06] <lastarms> CharlesIC: after that, try back to 770
[04:06] <CharlesIC> lastarms, all 3 dirs?
[04:06] <lastarms> CharlesIC: if 777 works, and 770 doesn't that means the problem is in the ownershio
[04:06] <lastarms> ownership*
[04:06] <lastarms> CharlesIC: yup
[04:07] <mjessome> holstein: It's not that I don't know how to use dwm, I have set it up on many machines before. My question is more about whether or not I am able to have these services that are started and used with Unity used in dwm, or do these specific tools (indicator-power-service, etc) require Unity to be running in order to work?
[04:07] <histo> Why not ls -l   and find out what the perms are now and just fix them, rather than just throwing perms at it and guessing?
[04:07] <lastarms> histo: sshfs is a little tricky sometime... is what I think.
[04:07] <histo> mjessome: yes, no
[04:08] <histo> lastarms: not really
[04:08] <holstein> mjessome: you can start what you need.. i built it up like that in 12.04 using openbox.. and started everything.. spent a few days.. and hours straight tracking it all down, and researching and man paging.. now? i just use lxde
[04:08] <histo> lastarms: does nobody:nobody here
[04:08] <CharlesIC> yeah, 777 did it
[04:08] <CharlesIC> now i can see everything
[04:09] <CharlesIC> from my web app
[04:09] <CharlesIC> the issue is that i don't want anyone except root.foobar to have access to /foobar and /foobar/media
[04:09] <mjessome> alright, thanks holstein, histo. I'll keep at it, then :) At least I know I'm not trying to do the impossible.
[04:10] <histo> CharlesIC: Via a web browser??? What are you trying to do now?
[04:10] <histo> mjessome: it's not hard.
[04:10] <CharlesIC> histo, im using plexmedia server
[04:10] <CharlesIC> i have /foobar/media/video that i store my shared videos in, but they are only shared with foobar.share
[04:10] <CharlesIC> well, /foobar and /foobar/media
[04:10] <CharlesIC> is 770 for foobar.share
[04:10] <CharlesIC> err
[04:11] <CharlesIC> root.foobar
[04:11] <histo> mjessome: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dwm
[04:11] <CharlesIC> but i want /foobar/media/video accessible to webserver.webserver
[04:11] <CharlesIC> if i chmod 777 /foobar and /foobar/media, then it becomes accessible to webserver.webserver
[04:11] <histo> CharlesIC: what is root.foobar are you tyring to say username:groupname?
[04:11] <CharlesIC> yeah
[04:12] <CharlesIC> i just dont want /foobar and /foobar/media accessible to anyone else
[04:12] <Guest47227> who from Russia?
[04:12] <CharlesIC> but i do want /foobar/media/video accessible to webserver.webserver
[04:12] <Guest47227> hi all
[04:12] <histo> CharlesIC: chown /foobar/media/video root:webserver
[04:13] <histo> CharlesIC: chown root:webserver /foobar/media/video   sorry i'm dyslexic
[04:13] <x9> help me, my wireless card is randomly connecting/disconnecting
[04:13] <CharlesIC> histo, im not sure that works if /foobar and /foobar/media are root:foobar 770
[04:13] <x9> ~~connecting~~
[04:13] <holstein> mjessome: i found the arch wiki's that histo suggested helpful, as well as copying from other distros that were using what i was using.. if you can find one close
[04:14] <x9> so I have this TP-link USB wireless adapter... it randomly freezes and drops the Internet connection
[04:14] <x9> someone please help... it's getting to the point where I want to smash it with a hammer
[04:15] <histo> CharlesIC: what?
[04:15] <histo> CharlesIC: that would let root have the user permissions on videos and the group webserver have permissions
[04:15] <CharlesIC> histo, im trying to keep .webserver from any perms for /foobar and /foobar/media, though
[04:15] <CharlesIC> and ONLY have access to that subdir
[04:16] <histo> CharlesIC: Yeah I understand
[04:16] <histo> CharlesIC: we didn't change foobar or media just videos
[04:16] <CharlesIC> right now, i just set /foobar and /foobar/media back to 770 root.foobar
[04:16] <histo> k
[04:16] <CharlesIC> and after i did that, webserver lost access again
[04:16] <histo> CharlesIC: no chown root:webserver /foobar/media/video
[04:17] <histo> CharlesIC: now  not no
[04:18] <CharlesIC> no go
[04:19] <CharlesIC> only when i change /foobar and /foobar/media to 771 will it works
[04:19] <CharlesIC> work
[04:20] <histo> CharlesIC: yes it will
[04:20] <CharlesIC> ?
[04:21] <histo> CharlesIC: what's wrong with that?
[04:22] <CharlesIC> i didn't want webserver having any access to /foobar or /foobar/media
[04:22] <histo> CharlesIC: it doesn't
[04:22] <CharlesIC> it has +x
[04:22] <histo> CharlesIC: to enter the directory that's it
[04:23] <CharlesIC> doesn't it provide execute perms?
[04:23] <CharlesIC> say if there were a binary in /foobar?
[04:23] <histo> CharlesIC: yeah directories need execute perms to go into them
[04:23] <CharlesIC> k
[04:23] <histo> CharlesIC: why would the binary be 771?
[04:24] <CharlesIC> i just meant to keep users from any access
[04:25] <histo> CharlesIC: test as a 'user' and see then
[04:26] <CharlesIC> ok thats odd
[04:26] <histo> CharlesIC: x is the minimum permissions to access a directory
[04:26] <CharlesIC> i now have 771 for /foobar and /foobar/media
[04:26] <histo> CharlesIC: you need that to get to the sub directory
[04:27] <CharlesIC> oh i see
[04:27] <CharlesIC> i have to do 775 for video
[04:27] <CharlesIC> if i want everyone having read access
[04:27] <histo> CharlesIC: not if webserver is the group owner of video
[04:27] <CharlesIC> right
[04:27] <histo> CharlesIC: define everyone ?
[04:28] <histo> CharlesIC: if you just want everyone to have read 444
[04:28] <CharlesIC> well, i honestly want root.sharegroup to have ownership
[04:28] <CharlesIC> and 77?
[04:28] <histo> CharlesIC: 774
[04:29] <CharlesIC> not 5?
[04:29] <CharlesIC> i dont need x?
[04:29] <histo> CharlesIC: 774 is  user will have read write execute; group will have read, write, execute;  others will have read only
[04:29] <CharlesIC> k
[04:30] <histo> CharlesIC: if you are talking about the video directory then yes they still need x
[04:30] <histo> CharlesIC: do 775  and all files inside can be 774
[04:30] <cfhowlett> Dropox "can't establish a secure connection" in 12.04 precise.  USED to work just fine, but has failed to connect for about 3 weeks now.
[04:31] <CharlesIC> histo, thanks again for your help
[04:31] <CharlesIC> bye
[04:31] <histo> CharlesIC: np read up on permissions and possibly ACL
[04:36] <bugzee> is there a good network monitor available in the repos?
[04:36] <bugzee> I have vnstat and it does everything I want
[04:36] <bugzee> but I'd rather a GUI program
[04:36] <bugzee> so I can see detailed monitored data
[04:39] <michagogo> What does the `source` command do? I tried to RTFM, but --help, -h, -?, and `man` all didn't tell me anything
[04:39] <nisstyre> michagogo: it executes the shell script
[04:40] <nisstyre> michagogo: key point is that it doesn't create a subshell I guess
[04:43] <michagogo> Ah. Thanks.
[04:44] <punkgeek> any body can help me how to change cli login text page?
[04:44] <punkgeek> on ubuntu server
[04:45] <cfhowlett> !server|punkgeek
[04:46] <punkgeek> thank you :D
[04:52] <gr33n7007h> punkgeek, edit /etc/motd
 thank you
[05:08] <dave_s> I have a MASSSSSSSIVE list of files, and I can't for the life of me remember which command I can pipe the ls to to have it show them a page at a time...
[05:08] <dave_s> Anyone know the name of it?
[05:09] <macrover> ls | more
[05:09] <gr33n7007h> dave_s, ls | less
[05:09] <gr33n7007h> macrover, beat me to it :)
[05:09] <macrover> but I prefer less to more, if you have it
[05:09] <dave_s> What's the difference?
[05:09] <dave_s> I have them both.
[05:09] <macrover> less allows one to scroll up and down, more does not
[05:10] <dave_s> More lets you Ctrl+D, less requires q
[05:10] <dave_s> macrover: I see. Thank you.
[05:11] <fritoz> Helloo
[05:12] <dave_s> I've never seen WinSCP actually freeze, crash, burn, and have a heart attack, stroke, and aneurism all at the same time.
[05:12] <dave_s> Fascinating.
[05:13] <dave_s> I didn't realize we were creating this many files...
[05:14] <dave_s> It won't even work. :(
[05:16] <marcio> hi
[05:19] <ChrisPartridge> I've updated an 12.04 lts box using upgrade and dist-upgrade (went from 12.04.3 to 12.04.4), notice i have several kernel versions installed above the current active one, yet they are not being used, should it be using the latest?
[05:20] <Beldar> ChrisPartridge, Have you rebooted? Do you have more than one linux OS on the computer?
[05:21] <louisdk> I wonder why my Ubuntu 64-bit installation (upgraded from 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04) feels so slow. It runs on a 7200 rpm hdd, however Arch with Unity on a 5400 rpm hdd (and same hardware) is way more snappy. Some tips for cleaning/speeding up Ubuntu?
[05:22] <ChrisPartridge> Beldar: yep, rebooted twice since upgrading - and no, only the single linux install
[05:22] <chreuben> louisdk: Turn off the fancy graphics in unity – e.g. , Animations, Fading Windows, Window Decoration, Blur Windows, water Effect, Wobbly Windows
[05:22] <Beldar> louisdk, In general ubuntu is set up to run as fast as the DE allows, arch is a lighter install> same desktops?
[05:23] <Beldar> ChrisPartridge, Have you modified the grub menu? try running sudo update-grub.
[05:23] <allen> good evening folks
[05:24] <Guest8440> can anyone tell me how to change the gtk theme, and the window theme individually in Ubuntu 14.04 running Unity
[05:24] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> thinkin about doin a fresh ubuntu wipe
[05:24] <Beldar> Like2HlpU-Laptop, Why tell us?
[05:25] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> dunno just want diff layout and clean up the cruft
[05:25] <Beldar> Like2HlpU-Laptop, If you need actual support we are here, for chat #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:25] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> i kinda want to do minimal server install and buildit up
[05:26] <louisdk> Beldar: Yearh. Running Unity in Arch too.
[05:26] <louisdk> chreuben: not using anything but default compiz effects.
[05:27] <ChrisPartridge> Beldar: Hm strange, update-grub only picks up current running kernel (only one that appears in /boot) - however dpkg shows more installed, here's some ouput: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fb9335a731e2de31b158
[05:28] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> i think you can easily put on the desktop later so I will have a more compact install
[05:28] <Beldar> louisdk, The ubuntu a vanilla install in general?
[05:29] <Beldar> ChrisPartridge, This a full install or a iso on a usb?
[05:30] <louisdk> Beldar, Almost. Well having things like teamviewer deamon, skype etc. running but that does not seems to take that much either memory or cpu. I could be that this is just an old install.
[05:30] <Guest8440> can anyone tell me how to change the gtk theme, and the window theme individually in Ubuntu 14.04 running Unity
[05:30] <Beldar> ChrisPartridge, Are you running the update-grub in a rooted terminal with sudo?
[05:30] <Alpha-Omega> How would I go about installing virtualbox without the interface?
[05:30] <ChrisPartridge> Beldar: full install, originally 12.04.3 but updated (ran upgrade & dist-upgrade) to 12.04.4
[05:31] <Guest8440> i have the unity tweak tool, its shows both themes, but i can only change them as one
[05:31] <Alpha-Omega> I just need to have the services run through the terminal
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Alpha-Omega: What is your end goal?
[05:33] <Beldar> louisdk, Turn off the teamviewer and skype and see if it changes would be my test, any extras running. You mention 2 HD's same computer I assume.
[05:34] <Alpha-Omega> Jordan_U: The machines will be launched with scripts.
[05:34] <Beldar> ChrisPartridge, Your update-grub is in root and you are using sudo, can you explain?
[05:34] <louisdk> Beldar, okay. Yearh. 2 hdds on same pc.
[05:35] <ChrisPartridge> Beldar: could it be user is in root group?
[05:35] <Ben64> Alpha-Omega: then 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox' ?
[05:35] <Beldar> louisdk, Look in startup applications as well.
[05:37] <Beldar> ChrisPartridge, This is your explanation time to be honest. Is this a a Canonical ubuntu? A desktop or a server?
[05:39] <ChrisPartridge> Beldar: It was minimal 12.04.3 install (not sure Canonical? it was installed from standard iso)
[05:40] <punkgeek> i need shell script for change root password, any body can help me?
[05:40] <Beldar> ChrisPartridge, pastebin the output of this. lsb_release -a
[05:40] <somsip> !root | punkgeek
[05:41] <punkgeek> root user login
[05:42] <Fall> sudo su -, passwd
[05:42] <Fall> boom
[05:42] <Fall> :D
[05:42] <punkgeek>   no, i need shell script
[05:42] <Ben64> ChrisPartridge: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[05:42] <punkgeek> see, i write this
[05:42] <punkgeek> #!/bin/bash
[05:42] <punkgeek> echo "Enter Password For Root:"
[05:42] <punkgeek> read pass
[05:42] <punkgeek> echo -e "$pass\n$pass\n"| passwd root
[05:43] <punkgeek> but didnt work on shell script
[05:43] <ChrisPartridge> Beldar: output is here - http://pastebin.com/a2f8eahu
[05:43] <Ben64> punkgeek: why would you ever want to do that?
[05:43] <ChrisPartridge> Ben64: that should be in original paste/gist I did - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fb9335a731e2de31b158
[05:44] <Ben64> ChrisPartridge: what you pasted is different
[05:44] <punkgeek> because i should send root password with php to onther server
[05:44] <Ben64> punkgeek: sounds like a terrible idea
[05:44] <somsip> punkgeek: that idea should be taken out and shot
[05:45] <kans> Hello guys, I need help on setting up the PXE boot environment.. I have followed few tutorials that I found in google.. and all are failing
[05:45] <ChrisPartridge> Ben64: my apologies, see here: http://pastebin.com/kSGbpPnA
[05:45] <punkgeek> so what should i do? :-?
[05:45] <kans> Can you guys recommend a good PXE setup tutorial link or something?
[05:45] <Ben64> ChrisPartridge: as i thought. see all the "rc" at the beginning? that means they aren't installed, but have residual config. why that is though, no idea
[05:46] <Ben64> punkgeek: use sudo whenever you need root for something, and forget about having a root password or sending it anywhere
[05:46] <somsip> punkgeek: get a better solution. what are you trying to achieve?
[05:48] <kans> Guys, I need help on setting up the PXE boot environment.. I have followed few tutorials that I found in google.. and all are failing. Can anyone please recommend me a perfect PXE setup tutorial link or something?
[05:48] <ChrisPartridge> Ben64: oh, thanks - atleast that sheds some more light on it
[05:49] <Abhijit> how to install apple bonjour in ubuntu 14.04?
[05:49] <Ben64> ChrisPartridge: i'd recommend installing "linux-generic-lts-trusty" "linux-headers-generic-lts-trusty" and "linux-image-generic-lts-trusty" that will bring you to the latest kernel available for 12.04, which is from 14.04
[05:54] <ChrisPartridge> Ben64: I may end up doing that, but I think I found cause of problem
[05:54] <Abhijit> how to install apple bonjour in ubuntu 14.04?
[05:55] <Ben64> ChrisPartridge: well i think they're going to stop providing updates for 3.5 kernel if they haven't already
[05:58] <ChrisPartridge> Ben64: we have plan to move to 14.04 lts by end of year anywho (infrastructure change), I think cause of issue in this case was order of events (and bad script), update ran -> maintence cron job (cleaned unused kernels) -> reboot, so it did not have chance to move to new kernel before maintence cleaned it up
[05:59] <roasted> Does anybody know if it's possible to save your session in 14.04 so when you log in next time everything is back?
[06:03] <ChrisPartridge> Ben64: Beldar: thanks for your help, much appreciated
[06:04] <theadmin> roasted: The "gnome-ṣession-save" command saves it, also check gnome-session-properties for the checkbox which allows to do it automatically
[06:04] <theadmin> I'm not sure if the box is still around, actually
[06:05] <theadmin> Never mind, that's for GNOME 2
[06:06] <Kartagis> even though I have libmp3lame0, libmp3lame0-dev, libavcodec-extra-54, why does ffmpeg keep saying unknown encoder libmp3lame?
[06:07] <roasted> theadmin: <3
[06:07] <high_fiver> roasted, you´ĺl want to look into hibernate - I think ubuntu dropped support some time ago
[06:07] <theadmin> roasted: Buh. I can't find anything on GNOME 3, you may want to hibernate like high_fiver
[06:07] <theadmin> says
[06:08] <theadmin> roasted: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[06:08] <BIackBaron> Quick question: Why are there so many people here?
[06:09] <high_fiver> theadmin, nice going to add this later, cheers
[06:11] <theadmin> roasted: Note that hibernation is broken for many hardware configurations (is why they didn't enable it by default)
[06:13] <Bashing-om> BlueShark: Quick answer, popular OS, Open source and people want to know how to increase their abilities in it's use. And not the least, grea help here !
[06:13] <Bashing-om> great*
[06:14] <high_fiver> BlueShark, why are you here?
[06:15] <Bashing-om> BlueShark: Sorry 'bot that ping should have been directed to BlackBaron // gone gone.
[06:17] <roasted> theadmin: hibernation is broken on a lot of systems, even windows systems.
[06:18] <roasted> it's something that I avoid regardless of OS. sleep/suspend has always been *far* more reliable
[06:23] <apeoid> how do I change the program called by ctrl-alt-t
[06:24] <Abhijit> apeoid: how about changing keyboard shortcuts in settings?
[06:24] <apeoid> is that all?  ok
[06:27] <histo> apeoid: what?
[06:27] <histo> apeoid: ohh the terminal?
[06:27] <apeoid> yeah I have xfce terminal I want to use
[06:27] <apeoid> instead of the gnome one
[06:28] <apeoid> so I go to keyboard settings and shortcuts... add custom shortcut?
[06:28] <apeoid> what is the "command" to enter?
[06:28] <Abhijit> apeoid: no. change existing shortcut cntrl alt t
[06:28] <apeoid> I don't see an option to change existing
[06:29] <Abhijit> so cntrl alt t is not already assigned to anything?
[06:29] <apeoid> yes, it's there
[06:29] <Abhijit> then click on it
[06:29] <apeoid> Settings > Keyboard, Shortcuts tab, under Launchers
[06:30] <Abhijit> click on it.
[06:30] <apeoid> I do
[06:30] <apeoid> when I click it changes to "New Accelerator"
[06:30] <Abhijit> now it should ask you to edit teh command for that shortcut?
[06:30] <apeoid> no
[06:30] <Abhijit> yes. correct
[06:31] <Abhijit> now change this ctnl alt t to something else. for the time being.
[06:31] <Abhijit> may be ctrl t or something
[06:31] <histo> apeoid: press the new accelerator or change the application that opens for it
[06:32] <apeoid> well I can change the keyboard shortcut for "Launch terminal" but I can't change the application it opens, in this dialog
[06:33] <apeoid> I can click it all day long
[06:34] <apeoid> but it looks like I can just disable it and add a custom shortcut
[06:34] <apeoid> if I knew the command to fire up xfce terminal
[06:34] <theadmin> apeoid: xfce4-terminal if I recall right.
[06:35] <apeoid> theadmin, yes.  correct
[06:35] <apeoid> that works for ctrl-alt-t now
[06:35] <gr33n7007h> apeoid, e.g System Settings => Keyboard => Shortcuts => Custom Shortcut => Name => xterm => Command => xterm click on newly created shortcut +> New Accelerator ctrl + alt + x Done!
[06:37] <paull> .org
[06:40] <laconic> hi all
[06:42] <meek_geek> yoo
[06:42] <laconic> (please don't ask me how, but) I've just deleted my /etc/rc1.d
[06:43] <MrGreen_> was geht ppl,
[06:43] <MrGreen_> fotzen
[06:43] <MrGreen_> autobahn
[06:43] <MrGreen_> eisberg
[06:43] <MrGreen_> hitler
[06:43] <laconic> my system is still up an running, but I won't be rebooting it any time soon
[06:44] <laconic> anyone knows a way out of this (that excludes the obvious answer, i.e. reinstalling everything)?
[06:45] <Ben64> laconic: so how did you manage that
[06:45] <laconic> :D
[06:45] <laconic> (please don't ask how)
[06:45] <Bashing-om> laconic: Does not look to major .. I am running 13.10.ya want a look at what the directory contains ?
[06:45] <Ben64> laconic: it's important to know how
[06:46] <laconic> well rm -R, if you really want to know :)
[06:46] <Ben64> why did you select that directory for the target of that command?
[06:46] <laconic> by accident, of course
[06:47] <laconic> @Bashing-om: I doubt the directory structure is the same
[06:47] <Ben64> its just a bunch of symlinks. what version of ubuntu?
[06:47] <laconic> 12.04, server
[06:47] <Ben64> great
[06:48] <Ben64> i happen to have a 12.04 server here
[06:48] <laconic> great
[06:48] <theadmin> laconic: To be fair, it shouldn't be too troublesome. Runlevel 1 is hardly used, it's the recovery mode thingamajig. You won't be able to use that, but otherwise your system should still work fine.
[06:49] <laconic> @Ben64: could you list the structure of that dir for me?
[06:49] <Ben64> laconic: http://pastebin.com/SbQf5Hm2
[06:50] <Ben64> make those symlinks like that, and you should be golden
[06:50] <laconic> @theadmin: I've read elsewhere that people have had problems booting after that
[06:51] <laconic> @Ben64: thanks, will give it a shot
[06:51] <laconic> will make a backup first of everything else :)
[06:51] <Ben64> laconic: and be more careful with root powers :)
[06:51] <Mikerhinos> having this since this morning : "E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/repository.spotify.com_dists_stable_non-free_i18n_Translation-fr%5fFR" when trying to update :s
[06:52] <laconic> @Ben64: I know, I know... :)
[06:53] <Bashing-om> Mikerhinos: I read on ubuntuforums that the server was not responding for spotify.
[06:53] <Annihilator_> whenever i try to install ubuntu using usb it stucks and says studin:not a typewriter?please help
[06:54] <Annihilator_> but when i try using virtualmachine it works well
[06:54] <Mikerhinos> Bashing-om: hope that it will fixed soon, it crashes software-center and I can't even update via terminal :(
[06:55] <Bashing-om> Mikerhinos: Untill such time that their problem is resolved, you could disable the repo .
[06:56] <Annihilator_> whenever i try to install ubuntu using usb it stucks and says studin:not a typewriter?please help
[06:57] <Annihilator_> Ben64^^^
[06:57] <Mikerhinos> Bashing-om: I tried, but I don't find the good sources.list, there's no spotify in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:57] <theadmin> Mikerhinos: check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[06:57] <theadmin> Mikerhinos: And remove the spotify file
[06:58] <Annihilator009> !bot
[06:58] <Bashing-om> Mikerhinos: Look then in /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory.
[06:59] <ThKo> Good morning folks, I’ve installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS by USB-Stick…Installation complete…Now after booting I only get a blank desktop…Tried to call the Terminal by „CTRL ALT F1 / F2“, but nothing happens. Any hints? Reinstallation?
[06:59] <helmut_> i
[06:59] <helmut_> hi
[06:59] <Mikerhinos> Ok I have spotify.list and spotify.list.save, can I just rename both in .bak or do I have to delete it ?
[06:59] <theadmin> Mikerhinos: Remove them, eh. Or move them out.
[07:00] <theadmin> Mikerhinos: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list{,.save} ~/Desktop/
[07:00] <theadmin> Mikerhinos: This will move them to your desktop.
[07:01] <Bashing-om> ThKo: Try with the boot parameter "nomodeset" : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 .. and install the required driver when booted to the GUI .
[07:01] <MrGreen_> mofos
[07:01] <ThKo> Bashing-om: Ok, thanks I’ll try
[07:02] <Mikerhinos> ok it's working back, thx for the help guys
[07:02] <Annihilator009> !bot whenever i try to install ubuntu using usb it stucks and says studin:not a typewriter?please help
[07:02] <ThKo> Bashing-om: Ahh, now I’m at the command line, yeah…Want to apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop and so on
[07:03] <Annihilator009> !bot stduin:nat a typewrites
[07:03] <Annihilator009> !bot whenever i try to install ubuntu using usb it stucks and says studin:not a typewriter?please help
[07:03] <k1l_> !patience | Annihilator009
[07:06] <laconic> @Ben64: after copying that structure of yours, I'm down to only these (the other ones are not installed on my system): K09apache2  K20postfix  S30killprocs  S90single
[07:07] <Ben64> laconic: strange, you must have a pretty barebones system
[07:08] <Bashing-om> ThKo: I do not bekieve ya want to take that option ( but maybe ??) try booting up from grub with the "nomodeset option 1st. Once to the GUI you can install the graphics driver from Addition Drivers utility.
[07:08] <ThKo> Bashing-om: Ok, I think your hint is better than my one ;-) I’ll try it. Thank you :)
[07:09] <k1l_> Annihilator_: try different usb drive and reload the ubuntu iso
[07:09] <Annihilator_> ok thankx k1l_
[07:09] <Bashing-om> ThKo: can not hurt at all to try and see ..particularly so if you are tunning ATI or Nvidia graphics - and we are not under a hybrid graphics situation.
[07:10] <laconic> @Ben64: well, check out my rc0.d: http://pastebin.com/bbsqKenP
[07:10] <Annihilator_> but why do you think it;s happening k1l_
[07:10] <Annihilator_> ?
[07:10] <k1l_> Annihilator_: bad usb drive or corrupted iso
[07:12] <k1l_> Annihilator_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081322
[07:12] <Annihilator_> ok thanx k1l_
[07:14] <MohamamdSaleh> hi everybody
[07:14] <MohamamdSaleh> have a question about installing phpmyadmin on ubuntu
[07:15] <hateball> !ask
[07:16] <MohamamdSaleh> during installation , I forget to select apache web server. so how can config to work with apache?
[07:16] <k1l_> install the packages and configure them
[07:16] <k1l_> !lamp | MohamamdSaleh
[07:18] <MohamamdSaleh> kll_ , trying to install again does not ask about web server?
[07:18] <Fasa> can anyone help me install this http://hfujita.github.io/pulseaudio-raop2/
[07:18] <Erock23> hello?
[07:19] <Erock23> anybody home or is this lurkerville?
[07:20] <somsip> !ask | Erock23
[07:20] <k1l_> MohamamdSaleh: i dont understand where your problem is right now
[07:20] <Erock23> good enough
[07:20] <Erock23> I'm trying to find a good distro to put on a 32 gig USB drive
[07:21] <somsip> Erock23: this is the ubuntu support channel, so the answer would be ubuntu or one of the official flavours of ubuntu. Maybe you need a wiki comparing distros?
[07:22] <Erock23> sorry I've been looking for linux irc channels and this one was in the list so... I came here
[07:22] <somsip> Erock23: this is #ubuntu. Maybe you need #linux (or is it ##linux...)
[07:22] <somsip> !alis | Erock23
[07:22] <Erock23> isn't there an Ubuntu variant that can be stored/run from a USB drive?
[07:23] <somsip> Erock23: all of them, if installed with persistence
[07:23] <somsip> !usb | Erock23
[07:24] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent Erock23
[07:24] <Erock23> Beautiful! Thank you very much!
[07:24] <guest-zhvV7t> knk
[07:24] <MohamamdSaleh> k1l_: During install phpmyadmin ('apt-get install phpmyadmin') have been asked to chose a web server (apache or lighttpd) but I didn't select anything and go, so how can config that after installtion ?!
[07:25] <Fasa> is there any difference in performance if i dual boot with windows vs stand alone ubuntu?
[07:25] <somsip> Fasa: no
[07:25] <Fasa> thanks
[07:26] <ThKo> Bashing-om: It installs…Now wait and hope
[07:28] <Bashing-om> ThKo: OK, (thought you had installed) .. maybe have to do same same to boot into the intall initially .
[07:28] <masoudborbor> hi everybody. I am using kde, all the texts are low resolution. how to fix that. funny thing is that the same problem has occured in unity. other users of the pc have not this issue by the way. I was working on the fonts of desktop etc.
[07:31] <masoudborbor> hi everybody. I am using kde, all the texts are low resolution. how to fix that. funny thing is that the same problem has occured in unity. other users of the pc have not this issue by the way. I was working on the fonts of desktop etc.
[07:31] <masoudborbor> I think there must be a problem with anti aliasing
[07:31] <masoudborbor> or resolution
[07:33] <ThKo> Bashing-om: Ok, installed again with nomodeset checked…And it seems to work :) :) :) Get a pop up with keyboard shortcuts etc. :) Yeah thanks a lot
[07:36] <masoudborbor> anti aliasing problem in kde... somebody to help?
[07:37] <trijntje> masoudborbor: If you caused this problem by messing with the fonts, there is no way for us to know what you did or how to fix it
[07:38] <masoudborbor> trijntje, I  just changed the anti aliasing settings
[07:38] <masoudborbor> but even after reverting that
[07:38] <masoudborbor> there is low resolution text everywhere
[07:39] <factotum> try closing everything, logging out and logging back in again?
[07:39] <factotum> When I used KDE I often had to close everything up and reopen it again to see the results
[07:42] <jpentland> Anyone know how I can debug udev dying on boot? /var/log/udev doesn't show anything
[07:43] <bananarog> hello, trying to setup a headless x11vnc server on 14.04, can someone point me to the proper x11 or xorg.conf file to add stuff to?
[07:43] <Bashing-om> ThKo: Great, ya still need to check what graphics driver you are using in the actual install -> sudo lshw -C display < -.
[07:45] <masoudborbor> hi again and I am back
[07:45] <masoudborbor> I fied the problem
[07:45] <masoudborbor> there was a file in home called .fonts.conf
[07:45] <masoudborbor> I just changed the content to the default
[07:45] <masoudborbor> logged in and out... solved!
[07:45] <ThKo> Bashing-om: Display unclaimed…But my other problem is now, that the wifi is hard blocked…Looking for solutions but rfkill etc. don’t work
[07:47] <factotum> good!
[07:47] <sige> .
[07:47] <Bashing-om> ThKo: Display // see what is in "Additional Drivers" // WIFI: -> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade ; see what Additional drivers has to offer.
[07:49] <xjkx> I couldnt open gnome-control-center command on 14.04 :( they changed it to what ?
[07:52] <k1l> xjkx: which desktop?
[07:53] <xjkx> openbox, but I found out, thanks, its unity-control-center now :D
[07:53] <k1l> yep
[07:56] <DJJeff> can we ask about steam for ubuntu in here?
[07:57] <ThKo> Still upgrading though 25 MBit argh :D
[07:59] <Bashing-om> ThKo: I am done for this session. For additional assistance others will have to chime in here. I will return in about 12 hours or so// Upgrading packages is a good thing, WIFI might get fixed. See ya !
[07:59] <conferencing> Hi folks, I'm using 14.04. When I try to change my alert-sound I found there is only one sound theme. My path is: sound settings -> sound effects. How can I get more sound themes?
[08:01] <Eggs_> c/quit
[08:04] <OerHeks> conferencing, you can download many system sounds here >> http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=25
[08:07] <conferencing> OerHeks: thanks. I downloaded somes. But after I extract them to /usr/share/sounds I still can't find the sound-themes in sound-settings.
[08:08] <OerHeks> conferencing, maybe you need to logout/login to activate? not sure ..
[08:08] <conferencing> OerHeks: I rebooted..  :-(
[08:15] <xMopxShell> hey, i have a fresh ubuntu server install. It has 2 network interfaces with an IP, but ssh only responds on 1 of the two? Shouldn't it listen on both by default?
[08:25] <xMopxShell> does not seem to be a firewall issue, tcpdump shows the packets coming in from a ssh connection
[08:25] <xMopxShell> but sshd just ignores them?
[08:31] <mheap> Morning all. I don't suppose any of you have experience with Ubuntu and hidpi screens?
[08:31] <mheap> Gnome (Mutter) respects DPI settings fine
[08:31] <mheap> xmonad doesn't
[08:39] <DJJeff> (steam:5384): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.
[08:41] <chenchacha> someone know how to get the robet like the ubottu in this irc
[08:43] <fidel_> chenchacha: well - setup some bot yourself (i.e. using eggdrop or other irc-bot software) is the doing-it-yourself way
[08:43] <somsip> !bot | chenchacha
[08:48] <stangeland> Hello, i need to install python 3.4 from source. I have downloaded and built using configure and make. when i then run checkinstall i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7746106/   I cannot install because already installed. I cannot remove already installed because of dependencies (even if i use --force). How do i install python3.4 then? (I need own build because already installed is not built with zlib)
[08:48] <somsip> stangeland: though PPAs are not officially recommended, can't you use deadsnakes PPA?
[08:49] <stangeland> somsip, hmm i could try that. do you have an url?
[08:49] <somsip> !ppa | stangeland
[09:03] <reyt> Can anyone help me out with a problem?
[09:03] <louis__> I'm boring
[09:03] <somsip> !ask | reyt
[09:04] <niels__>  !patience
[09:04] <tirengarfio> what is your prefered email client?
[09:05] <reyt> I'm having trouble with tplink TL-WN821nv3 usb wifi dongle and qbittorrent. I'm on 14.04. Randomly my usb wifi dongle will, for lack of a better word, "hang". The flashing LED on it goes stable, network manager reports that I'm still connected to the internet, but I am unable to load webpages. Oddly however is that whenever this occurs, qbittorrent freezes as well and refuses to respond to any clicks or input. As soon as I unplug my dongle, qbittorrent immedi
[09:05] <reyt> ately unfreezes like there never was a problem. Upon replugging the dongle it connects flawlessly to my network. I noticed this issue started just a little bit after i installed qbittorent, I'm using qbittorent 3.1.9.2 direct from the PPA, I tried downgrading to 3.1.8 from the official repo but to no avail. Also when my dongle is in this hanged state, and attempt at ping or inputting command iwconfig will result in the output never coming, seemingly taking fo
[09:05] <reyt> rever, as soon as the dongle is unplugged however, the output to these commands suddenly appears.
[09:09] <janihhh> reyt: is the signal good, are you close to/far from your wifi-router?
[09:10] <reyt> I'm just across the room from my wifi router. I'd say about 5 meters, same room and no walls b/w us.
[09:10] <DJJeff> oh I seem to be missing a few things?
[09:10] <DJJeff> http://bpaste.net/show/433865/
[09:10] <sarkie> hi, my friend has this laptop. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201307-13932/ when installing via boot from live usb, everything works, once installed, wifi, touchpad don't work, 12.04 and 14.04 do the same, he has tried installing packages with the install and still the same, anyone any ideas?
[09:11] <janihhh> reyt: ok, then probably not a weak signal problem
[09:17] <somsip> reyt: start a process of elimination. Disable qbittorrent and surf for a while. Does it happen again? Anything in the logs that might help?
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !kylin
[09:18] <cfhowlett> longshot question here:  I just learned why Dropbox won't connect; Great Firewall of China now blocks it.  Other than VP, does anyone have a working solution?
[09:19] <janihhh> sarkie: did you try to install any drivers for wifi or touchpad? maybe they need some restricted drivers etc. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/
[09:19] <DJones> cfhowlett: This is old & quite possibly out of date, but maybe it will resolve that http://eastasiastudent.net/china/dropbox-no-vpn
[09:20] <cfhowlett> DJones I'll take a look.  thanks.
[09:21] <reyt> somsip: I've been doing just that for quite a while, I can confirm that the problem doesn't occur if qbittorrent isn't running. I'm not sure what logs to check, but if you direct me I'm sure I can provide the necessary information.
[09:21] <DJones> cfhowlett: It might not be that good a page, have a read of this which also refers to that page https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?59148-Dropbox-in-China
[09:21] <somsip> reyt: dmesg would be the first suggestion. Can you use a different torrent program as a work-around?
[09:22] <cfhowlett> DJones will do.  Strangely, DB worked for YEARS but suddenly went dark last month.  Quite irritating, that is.
[09:23] <DJones> cfhowlett: From what I was just reading, seems like it depends on which side of the bed somebody gets out of bed on, sometimes it gets blocked, others its allowed
[09:23] <sarkie> janihhh: but they work during install, so trying to figure out why they work on live install, but not actual install?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> DJones yeah.  there is a workaround for FB that intermittently works, but I always "ass - u - me -d" that my Dropbox was reliable.  mea culpa
[09:24] <janihhh> sarkie: yes that is weird, but maybe worth to check that the drivers are enabled also on actual install
[09:25] <reyt> somsip: here is my dmesg http://pastebin.com/8QJrw636 , you want me to test whether the problem occurs for another client? Or switch clients in the long run. I'd rather not switch from qbit because of it's simple RSS functionality. I tried Deluge, but couldn't really make sense of it for the purposes of RSS.
[09:27] <somsip> reyt: I'm not wifi expert, but it looks like your dongle is being disabled around 1212, so about 20 mins from boot. It's up to you what you swap to and what you test. How did you install qbittorrent? Official repo or something else?
[09:28] <somsip> !info qbittorrent
[09:28] <admon> !info zabbix
[09:28] <admon> !info nmap
[09:30] <reyt> somsip: I installed qbit 3.1.9.2 from the PPA on their website. I tried purging and reverting to official repo verion which is 3.1.8, but I get the same issue.
[09:30] <somsip> reyt: how did you uninstall it? Look at !ppapurge
[09:32] <reyt> !ppapurge
[09:33] <JediMaster> I have several servers that are running 14.04 that can't be accessed through the serial console, after much investigation it turns out that util-linux IS installed but /sbin/getty was missing, apt-get --reinstall util-linux fixed it, how can the file just be missing like that?
[09:33] <JediMaster> *apt-get --reinstall install util-linux =)
[09:38] <avis-> all my computer can run is 12.04 lts.  i think its a great operating system though i fear packages not updating eventually
[09:38] <reyt> somsip: I've used ppa-purge this time. Last time I manually removed ppa from list, purged and reinstalled using software center. I hope it works this time.
[09:39] <exarkun> Sometimes when I unsuspend Ubuntu 14.04, I don't get a login dialog.  I just get a grey screen.  If I suspend and unsuspend again then it usually fixes the issue.  What's going on?
[09:40] <Ben64> avis-: you have until 2017 to get a newer computer
[09:41] <Abhijit> or just get debian or slackware?
[09:44] <histo> avis-: why can't you run something newer?
[09:51] <janihhh> exarkun: can you change the tty while the screen is grey? I've had something similar and was able to get to the graphical login by pressing ctrl+alt+f7
[09:54] <Guido1> hello, i need some help installing my printer on a 64 bit xubuntu laptop. to install the driver i first have to onstall "ia32-libs or lib32stdc++", but both pakages are not found and sudo apt-get install package-name:i386 also doesn work
[09:59] <ridders24> Hey, I wonder if someone could help me? when I run the following dd command: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb2 |pv| of=/media/ubuntu/Elements/home/Samsung_image.dd conv=noerror,sync all that gets returned is 0B 0:00:00 [   0B/s] [<=>
[09:59] <histo> Guido1: have you checked if your driver is present in cups?
[10:00] <histo> ridders24: what is pv?
[10:00] <ridders24> pipe viewer
[10:00] <ridders24> its so I can see the progress of the copy
[10:01] <histo> ridders24: ahh well try without pv
[10:02] <ridders24> histo, well its doing something haha, I know just can't see its progress
[10:02] <histo> ridders24: you can find the pid of the dd and send a kill -USR1  to-that-pid  to get status
[10:03] <ridders24> ah ok cheers
[10:03] <dfb> hey is sbuild still the standard way for .deb packinging?
[10:04] <ridders24> histo, just a quick one before I go, earlier when I was trying to do dd, I managed to start the progress but the output file as sda1 which is my external hdd, I cancelled the process but term did say 6gb had been copied. But i cant see that 6gb of data anywhere
[10:05] <ridders24> just concerned it may cause a problem when i play the hdd back into windows
[10:05] <histo> ridders24: where was your out file specified?
[10:05] <ridders24> dev/sda1
[10:05] <histo> ridders24: yeah you hosed the first part of the sda1 file system
[10:06] <ridders24> meaning?
[10:06] <Ben64> you overwrote the first 6GB of sda1
[10:06] <histo> ridders24: the first 6GB of data on that disk is gone and you will probably have to repair the file system or reformat the drive
[10:06] <ridders24> :s
[10:06] <ridders24> i can still see all the data and file structure in ubuntu though
[10:06] <Ben64> and this is why you should be careful with sudo
[10:06] <Guido1> histo: in the list of available drivers if i want to install it via the printer manager. yes and it isn
[10:07] <Guido1> histo: itś an broother DCP 110C (als working is the newer brother DCP 115C)
[10:07] <histo> Guido1: what printer manager?
[10:08] <Guido1> histo: i mean this tool to manage and add printer which comes with ubuntu
[10:08] <ridders24> if Ive damaged the first 6gb of sda1, why is the external hdd still accessable in ubuntu?
[10:08] <Ben64> ridders24: well you wrote to a mounted partition, i wouldn't be surprised if everything starts exploding
[10:09] <histo> ridders24: probably hasn't sync'd yet
[10:09] <Guido1> histo: and itś not in the data base. i have to installl it manualy
[10:09] <histo> ridders24: are you sure you went ot sda1 ?? check your .bash_history
[10:09] <ridders24> oh here we go, cant access drive
[10:09] <histo> ridders24: yeah hosed
[10:10] <histo> ridders24: be carefull with dd.  How much stuff was on the drive?
[10:10] <ridders24> everything
[10:10] <ridders24> was my backup drive
[10:10] <histo> ridders24: how much space did 'everything' take up prior to you overwriting it?
[10:11] <ridders24> hard to say, but it was a 1TB drive and I hadnt filled it
[10:11] <histo> ridders24: 6GB is quite a bit of 'everything' though.  You may be able to recover anything after the first 6GB
[10:11] <histo> s/anything/some things/
[10:12] <ridders24> ok, how do I get the drive viewable again?
[10:13] <histo> ridders24: do you want to try and recover the data?
[10:13] <ridders24> yeah lol
[10:13] <ridders24> not so much the 6gb i lost. but everything else
[10:14] <i42n> test
[10:14] <bcvery> !test | i42n
[10:15] <Guido1> so how can i install "ia32-libs or lib32stdc++"? both pakages are not found and sudo apt-get install package-name:i386 also doesn work
[10:16] <bcvery> !find lib32stdc++
[10:17] <histo> Guido1: what is the output of uname -a
[10:17] <Guido1> histo: Linux guido-laptop 3.13.0-30-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 9 22:45:01 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:18] <histo> Guido1: do they have a 64 bit driver?
[10:19] <Guido1> histo: i need this two pakages to use the network printer
[10:19] <Guido1> histo: no, they don't
[10:19] <Guido1> histo: http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/before.html?c=nl&lang=nl&prod=dcp110c_eu_as&redirect=on#004
[10:23] <nick07> hi, ok I have my 'default' driver nouveau, and my resolution is now 1280x1024 at 60hz. I just installed XBMC and I will know it will crash
[10:23] <histo> Guido1: what libraries do you need?
[10:24] <nick07> hi Histo!
[10:24] <histo> nick07: hola
[10:24] <Guido1> histo:     Requirement
[10:24] <Guido1>     ia32-libs or lib32stdc++ is required to be installed.
[10:26] <histo> Guido1: did you try installing the gcc-###-source packages ubottu suggested?
[10:26] <histo> !find lib32stdc++ | One of these Guido1
[10:26] <Guido1> histo: no, not jet. how do i install it resp. what iss the exact pakage name?
[10:26] <histo> Guido1: sudo apt-get install gcc-4.8-source
[10:28] <histo> !info lib32stdc++6
[10:28] <histo> Guido1: can you sudo apt-get install lib32stdc++6:i386
[10:29] <Guido1> histo: sudo apt-get install gcc-4.8-source worked, but i still can install the driver
[10:29] <histo> Guido1: what is the error?
[10:30] <histo> Guido1: sudo apt-get purge gcc-4.8-source && sudo apt-get install lib32stdc++6
[10:31] <Guido1> if i install the driver via the softwhare center i just don get the message that it is installed, but that i can still install it
[10:31] <histo> Guido1: after the above command dpkg -i /path/to/the/driver.deb
[10:34] <Guido1> histo: okee, one of the two drivers is installled, the second gives the errotr that csh is required
[10:39] <Guido1> histo: installed csh and now it works :-) thanks a lot
[10:41] <zaitzev> Hi all. I'm having a bit of an issue with themes. I'm running 14.04 on a laptop, and often when it has been suspended, when I resume there is a black, thick border around most, if not all, windows and context menus
[10:42] <histo> Guido1: np
[10:42] <zaitzev> I should mention that it happens to custom themes, not the default Ambiance theme.
[10:42] <arlekin> hi there, does anyone here know any cli im which would handle google talk ?
[10:43] <Guido1> histo: the scan section is not working jet, but that's not so important
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> arlekin  is this useful http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/chat-linux-command-line-centerim/
[10:45] <arlekin> MonkeyDust: depends ;) awhile ago google dropped jabber so im lost know, but i will definitely check this out, thanks!
[10:46] <somsip> arlekin: you can use irssi and bitlbee if that's any good to you
[10:47] <arlekin> somsip: as long as it is commandline and has not absurd learning curve it will do ;)
[10:58] <exarkun> janihhh: Going through the suspend/unsuspend process again is a work-around I already have.  I'd like to fix the problem rather than work around it.
[10:58] <exarkun> more details: https://superuser.com/questions/776934/how-do-i-suspend-unsuspend-ubuntu-14-04-on-an-x230-with-an-external-display-with
[11:00] <takpar> :/
[11:01] <dleonardi> whats better, vi or emacs?
[11:01] <exarkun> dleonardi: Troll somewhere else.
[11:02] <exarkun> Or, here's a novel idea: not at all.
[11:02] <dleonardi> ack
[11:09] <mrintegrity> hi, i am unable to browse my files in ubuntu one and the downloader does not work
[11:09] <mrintegrity> "file download failed"
[11:09] <mrintegrity> on every file
[11:09] <mrintegrity> some of these docs and photos are very important
[11:09] <bcvery> !ubuntuone | mrintegrity, discontinued
[11:10] <mrintegrity> bcvery: not helpful
[11:10] <mrintegrity> bcvery: the program supplied to download your files due to the discontinuatino does not work
[11:10] <mrintegrity> which is my quiestion
[11:11] <bazhang> mrintegrity, ask in #ubuntuone
[11:11] <mrintegrity> bazhang: thanks
[11:12] <adsc> trusting the cloud without your own backups is not very smart
[11:12] <adsc> clouds can disperse
[11:17] <abckb__> hi I'm running 14.04 on a low power netbook and the latest version of firefox feels heavy. Is there a way to downgrade to previous version?
[11:17] <hichamat> anyone had installed mapnik in ubuntu ?
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> mapnik... everyday we learn something new...
[11:19] <DJ> I want to see connected window computer file in my pc .file is share.how to view?
[11:23] <hichamat> apt-get install proj : Package proj is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:23] <ihre> Hi guys, I got a free 16gb USB stick (unbranded) but I cannot format it with fdisk, since the device appers to contain just 11 sector of 512 bytes. How can I recover this device? http://dpaste.com/2PDXEJY
[11:25] <chrirc> hi ...i unmounted the usb drive but when i restarted the pc it is not mounted anymore...how to mount it again
[11:25] <chrirc> ?
[11:25] <mrintegrity> plug it in again
[11:26] <mrintegrity> exit
[11:26] <sveta> hi! how do I verify a file signature? downloading some software, they give me a .xz and .xz.sig
[11:27] <chrirc> it is plugged in....i just selected unmount accidentally
[11:27] <johnflux> I installed a clean ubuntu 14.04, but it just crashes when it starts up
[11:27] <bcvery> johnflux, did you md5sum check the iso before installation?
[11:27] <johnflux> bcvery: yes
[11:27] <bcvery> chrirc, remove it from the machine, plug it back in
[11:28] <johnflux> bcvery: I've tested both via cdrom install and usb install too
[11:28] <johnflux> bcvery: I think it's to do with my motherboard - it's a fairly new motherboard
[11:29] <chrirc> so...it cannot be mounted again without removing it from the machine?
[11:29] <ihre> sure you can, but use the terminal for that
[11:30] <sveta> hrm
[11:31] <histo> sveta: file whatever.xz.sig  what is the output?
[11:32] <sveta> histo: PGP signaturePGP signature
[11:32] <sveta> er, pasted twice, it gives it once of course
[11:33] <histo> sveta: do you have the keyring file?
[11:33] <sveta> maybe not? only the xz and xz.sig
[11:34] <histo> sveta: where did you get the package?
[11:35] <sveta> histo: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/#download the alpha http thing
[11:35] <jass> Hi all. I have 64bit laptop. This is the first time I am thinking of installing any linux OS and I am confused b/w LTS and simple. Also what should I download?
[11:35] <jass> 32 bit or 64 bit?
[11:35] <sveta> lts is long-term support; 64
[11:35] <histo> sveta: keyring is at ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-keyring.gpg
[11:36] <sveta> histo: ok, and any instructions? :)
[11:37] <sveta> jass: lts usually is more stable and is released every 2 years (10.04, 12.04, 14.04). there are releases every 6 months inbetween which are also stable, but they evolve into something more comprehensive and tested by the time of a next lts release. -- my opinion after some ~5 years of looking at it, but it may or may not be accurate
[11:37] <histo> gpg --verify --keyring /path/to/keyring somefile.xz.sig
[11:37] <sveta> !lts
[11:37] <jass> sveta: should I go for long term support? :s
[11:37] <sveta> ^^ official things about it
[11:37] <sveta> I would, yes
[11:37] <jass> I see. Thanks
[11:37] <sveta> histo: thanks, will try that in a moment
[11:38] <jass> I have already got 12.04 32 bit iso though
[11:38] <jass> wondering if I should download amd64 when I do't have amd card
[11:38] <jass> downloading 14.04 LTS 64-bit :S
[11:38] <jass> hope it would work fine
[11:39] <sveta> when the latest version is LTS, I personally see no use in non-LTS. but they're supported I think. -- amd is processor architecture, it is not compatible with other things (32bit runs on 64bit computers, but I don't think the CPU architectures are not interchangeable)
[11:39] <iceroot> jass: amd64 is not related to vga cards and not related to amd cpus, its just the name of a specific 64bit technik which is used by most desktop cpus now
[11:39] <sveta> *I don't think they're interchangeable
[11:39] <Honvai> Need help. skyrim not work
[11:39] <bcvery> Honvai, ask in #winehq
[11:40] <jass> sveta: I see. Then download 14.04 LTS 64 bit for sure
[11:42] <Mithrildar> Good afternoon
[11:42] <johnflux> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.10/release/
[11:43] <johnflux> For a 64bit intel system, do I want "amd64" ?
[11:44] <Mithrildar> I used Boot-Repair to get my computer to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows. It works fine at the moment (I get a boot window in which I can select Ubuntu or the Windows boot something), but during the execution of Boot-Repair it did give me an error message with a paste2 link. Anything that I should do or is everything fine?
[11:45] <sveta> johnflux: hi.
[11:45] <johnflux> sveta: hey
[11:46] <sveta> johnflux: with the tiny understanding I have, I perceive intel and amd as mutually exclusive.
[11:46] <johnflux> I can't get 14.04 working - so I'm going to try 13.10  and see if it's any better
[11:46] <Mithrildar> So should I post the paste2 link with the log of Boot-Repair or does it contain sensitive information>
[11:46] <sveta> johnflux:  does it give you any error message?
[11:48] <dw1> often one tap on my touchpad starts dragging something when i dont want it to.  what should i adjust?
[11:48] <sveta> johnflux: I would personally use the i386 image, but I wouldn't mind hearing out someone else's opinion in here. if my understanding of the meaning of these things is correct, then that distro doesn't support intel64bit or amd32bit, which I would find crazy; suggests I probably misunderstand something. -- there is #kubuntu channel too.
[11:48] <sveta> johnflux: if you find it out from there, please also share here.
[11:48] <johnflux> sveta: It crashes when I start X.   I don't know if it's related, but in dmesg I see a crash
[11:48] <sveta> pastebin it?
[11:48] <johnflux> I can't really copy and paste..
[11:49] <johnflux> azx_probe_work    azx_probe_continue
[11:49] <johnflux> that's the main functions in the backtrace
[11:49] <jass> do we have utorrent in ubuntu?
[11:49] <johnflux> sveta: also google says that yes, amd64 is fine on 64bit intel systems :)
[11:49] <sveta> histo: they told me the key is not at ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-keyring.gpg, but somewhere else, from the specific maintainer of that software. It looks like I'm getting some sort of hints at their channel
[11:49] <johnflux> jass: I use transmission which I like  ( doesn't answer your question directly sorry)
[11:50] <sveta> johnflux: then go with it and please don't forget to yell at me when it works
[11:50] <jass> okay
[11:52] <Honvai> how to install ubuntu 14.04 iso to USB virtual cd?
[11:52] <sveta> jass: mu torrent appears to be not open-source and they didn't package it, but you can download a package from their website (you will have to update it manually as the software center will not know about it)
[11:52] <sveta> *didn't package it for ubuntu
[11:53]  * sveta rephrases
[11:53] <sveta> they did package it for ubuntu, but they didn't get it into the repos
[11:53] <Mithrildar> Honvai: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[11:53] <jass> sveta: oho, it's nice, thanks :)
[11:53] <mukhthar> hello all, ubuntu 12.04 as gateway/ router eth0 as wan with pppoe,  eth1 as local lan.  DHCP installed and  systcl port forward enabled. Problem is unable to share internet connection
[11:53] <dw1> i guess its just an inherent weakness in the trackpad
[11:53] <jass> also can remove this pannel from the sektop, sveta ?
[11:54] <jass> desktop*
[11:54] <dw1> clicking and then clicking again to move naturally registers as a double click
[11:54] <Honvai> how to install ubuntu 14.04 iso to USB virtual cd in ubuntu?
[11:54] <sveta> jass: tramsmission and qbittorrent are couple alternatives (unless there's a feature they're missing, they may be a bit less of a pain to maintain as the software center will update everything out there for you; otherwise you'd have to click 'help -> check for updates' or download it manually when you like)
[11:54] <sveta> Honvai: hi! how virtual is the cd?
[11:55] <Honvai> a lot
[11:55] <sveta> jass: which panel? (I'm presuming you mean unity, which I only tried about a year ago)
[11:55] <Mithrildar> I used Boot-Repair to get my computer to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows. It works fine at the moment (I get a boot window in which I can select Ubuntu or the Windows boot something), but during the execution of Boot-Repair it did give me an error message with a paste2 link. Anything that I should do or is everything fine?
[11:55] <jass> sveta: but I heared that other ones are bit slow in comparision to others
[11:55] <jass> sveta: that side dockpanel I guess
[11:55] <sveta> Honvai: I mean: I haven't ever worked with virtual cds so I might need you to rephrase it or mention how you made it. I _really_ hope someone else picks up this question as it's a blank area to me
[11:57] <Honvai> first i use this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows then i want make new a clean one
[11:57] <shwaiil> Q: I'm running out of space and I'd like to resize my partitions. I've got unallocated space. I can resize the partition preceding the unallocated parttition but not any other apparently. Can some one provide me some hints or advice on this please ? Here's a screenshot http://img42.com/rvzLd Thanks for your tim!
[11:57] <sveta> jass: I don't see how torrent client could be faster -- would be motivated to test, personally, as I thought it is the internet! is the side dock panel filled with big monstrous icons/launchers of applications?
[11:58] <bcvery> Honvai, so you're using Ubuntu, and you want to create a bootable USB using the Ubuntu 14.04 .iso?  Or have I misunderstood
[11:58] <jass> sveta:yes, that one
[11:58] <johnflux> \o/
[11:58] <sveta> shwaiil: I would use gparted, but make a backup of both partitions first (I think this is the case when the resize is harder)
[11:58] <johnflux> sveta: I disabled the intel graphics card
[11:58] <johnflux> sveta: in the bios
[11:58] <johnflux> sveta: now it works
[11:58] <Honvai> yes i want make bootable USB
[11:58] <sveta> johnflux: I would expect that then the display would stop displaying. what did it actually do?
[11:59] <sveta> bcvery: thank you so much
[11:59] <bcvery> !unetbootin | Honvai, try this
[11:59] <jass> sveta: downloading s/w has to do with speeds because for instance Internet download manager is way nicer than downloading sth with s/w like YouDownloader
[11:59] <unkn-error> what cluster size do y guys re-command for an 32 GB usb flash with fat32?
[11:59] <johnflux> sveta: I have a nvidia card that I'm using
[11:59] <shwaiil> sveta: Thanks for looking. I've got gparted open on my USB Boot Ubuntu 12.04! Can you confirm I can only resize one partition ? If you could please have a look on that screenshot thanks
[11:59] <jass> sveta: so that can be removed?
[12:00] <jass> the side bar
[12:00] <sveta> jass: I see. I have no idea how to disable that sidebar -- it is a part of Unity, but I'm using another desktop at the moment. please hold (and ask again in a few minutes if noone replies; I'm trying to look it up too a bit slowly)
[12:01] <alphydan> Hello all. One question:  My ubuntu shut down abruptly because the battery ended. After that I have been unable to log back in as my main user.
[12:01] <neutralizer> is there jsonlint like xmllint for ubuntu terminal? I want to is lint a json file so I can read it easily.
[12:01] <jass> sveta: different wm you mean?
[12:02] <alphydan> after login, I see a black screen and the pointer (on 13.10)
[12:02] <unkn-error>  With bigger clusters, medium (default) or bigger (64)?
[12:02] <sveta> jass: and that too; unity is a thing that runs on top of gnome desktop, some wm (dunno which), and a few other things. I'm using xfce with xwm at the moment so I wouldn't be familiar with either.
[12:02] <sveta> *with xfwm
[12:03] <jass> sveta: I see
[12:03] <jass> don't know what that is :p
[12:05] <sveta> jass: you shouldn't, it was just me being somewhat conservative during an update. I'm going back to some of those things soon.
[12:05] <sveta> !xfce
[12:05] <sveta> jass: this is for your reference if you like though; there's nothing worse than learning when you enjoy it.
[12:05] <shwaiil> Q: Is there a way to check what's on each parititon ? http://img42.com/rvzLd
[12:05] <sveta> nothing worse than not learning*
[12:05] <jass> I see
[12:07] <sveta> shwaiil: I think you can see these filesystems in the sidebar at the left of your file manager.
[12:07] <blueingress> id
[12:07] <sveta> blueingress: id?
[12:08] <blueingress> sveta, i thought this was a shell window. :-(
[12:09] <jass> ubuntu looks nice for a desktop
[12:09] <shwaiil> sveta: I checked that, but they don't seem to match in terms of size and freespace, so I'm confused.
[12:09] <sveta> blueingress: ok :)
[12:10] <sveta> jass: thanks, you've made everyone in this room a bit happier ;)
[12:10] <alphydan> I'm locked out of my ubuntu.  I've tried to start from the console (CTRL+ALT, but when I startx I get
[12:10] <sveta> shwaiil: GiB and GB are different - might need to double-check
[12:10] <PinFloyd> shwaiil: what do you need know about the partitions?
[12:10] <sveta> alphydan: get what?
[12:10] <alphydan> xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[12:10] <alphydan> xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[12:10] <alphydan> xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[12:10] <alphydan> xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[12:10] <alphydan> xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[12:10] <jass> sveta: :p
[12:11] <sveta> PinFloyd: he wants to know the contents I believe -- in my case I just browse them in the file manager
[12:11] <Agent_Smith_BR> How can I install a packege and all deps from 14.04LTS in my 12.04LTS without break the system?
[12:11] <alphydan> (sorry ... didn't mean to copy paste that many times)
[12:11] <unopaste> alphydan you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:11] <sveta> alphydan: try to "sudo pkill Xorg" from the tty instead -- it would start it again. and "sudo service gdm restart" first, as it could work and let you back in easier
[12:11] <shwaiil> sveta: PinFloyd thanks for looking. I found the UUID that helped. I'm resizing paritions, so I'd like to unsure which one I'm resizing. In my case I can only increase one partition from the unallocated space. Is there a way to increase the ones further left ? Some how ? Thanks http://img42.com/rvzLd
[12:11]  * sveta eyes unopaste
[12:12] <alphydan> @sveta, thanks. will try.
[12:12] <sveta> alphydan: you can speak again now
[12:12] <sveta> ok
[12:13] <sveta> histo: that signature thing is a wonderful tool. thank you too for your explanation.
[12:13] <PinFloyd> '/' partition is in your sda3 and '/home' is in your sda4
[12:13] <alphydan> I did "sudo pkill Xorg" from tty, then it took me to the login screen. I logged in. and I'm back to a full black screen, no cursor.
[12:14] <alphydan> should I go to tty and "sudo service gdm restart" ?
[12:15] <Honvai> thanks for assistin me to re install ubuntu in ubuntu :(
[12:15] <jass> anybody tried iphone with ubuntu?
[12:15] <PinFloyd> if you run gnome-system-monitor in the "filesystem"'s task you can see the directories that are mounted in your devices
[12:15] <Agent_Smith_BR> How can I install a packege and all deps from 14.04LTS in my 12.04LTS without break the system?
[12:16] <theadmin> Agent_Smith_BR: You can't.
[12:17] <alphydan> sveta: actually, from tty:  "sudo service gdm restart" gives > gdm: unrecognized service
[12:17] <io> alphydan: lightdm
[12:17] <theadmin> alphydan: gdm hasn't been used in Ubuntu for a long time, use "sudo restart lightdm"
[12:18] <Agent_Smith_BR> theadmin: if I add the 14.04 using PPA in my 12.04, could I have problems?
[12:18] <theadmin> Agent_Smith_BR: It most likely just won't work, but if the PPA provides updates to packages in official repos, then yes, you will have serious issues
[12:19] <jass> sveta: I am still not sure if I am doing right thing by download 14.04
[12:19] <Agent_Smith_BR> theadmin: Thanks!
[12:20] <sooli> Hi there, how do we set alias IP within Ubuntu 14.04?
[12:20] <Agent_Smith_BR> theadmin: let try just one more big question
[12:21] <alphydan> theadmin:  tried from tty: "sudo service lightdm restart". it took me to the login screen.  But when I type pwd, it holds for a second as a black screen and goes right back to the login screen
[12:21] <Agent_Smith_BR> theadmin: I'm compiling OpenVAS 7 which has libmicrohttpd10_0.9.33-1_amd64.deb as a dep, but I'm in ubuntu 12.04 which has only the version 0.4.6
[12:22] <alphydan> (trying to login as guest does seem to work however: unity and the desktop loads, etc)
[12:22] <sveta> io: is lightdm the default now?
[12:22] <Agent_Smith_BR> theadmin: is there a way to install the version 0.9.* without breaking the system?
[12:22] <alphydan> but trying to login as the main user takes me back
[12:23] <sveta> alphydan: I would look for ~/.X* files - probably one of them is a log? one of them tells what you are running when you log in?
[12:24] <sveta> probably ~/..xsession*
[12:24] <sveta>  ~/.xsession* rather
[12:25] <alphydan> I can see ~/.xsession-errors and ~/.xsession-errors.old
[12:25] <nagerst> Hi
[12:26] <yuiibe> gagagag
[12:26] <meek_geek> I installed libreoffice and language tool extension it is giving me (com.sun.star.uno.RuntimeExpection) error
[12:27] <Mithrildar> I used Boot-Repair to get my computer to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows. It works fine at the moment (I get a boot window in which I can select Ubuntu or the Windows boot something), but during the execution of Boot-Repair it did give me an error message with a paste2 link. Anything that I should do or is everything fine?
[12:28] <alphydan> how can I copy ~/.xsession-errors from the tty and onto the web to share?
[12:28] <blueingress> Hi all, I have problem with char-set in my google-chrome-stable. I purge the package and install again. the char-set displaying problem was still there. But the firefox works fine. Any clue?
[12:29] <alphydan> could I copy the files to the desktop of the guest user? if so where do I find it? (it's not in /home/)
[12:29] <io> sveta: in default Ubuntu it is
[12:29] <yuiibe> nani?
[12:29] <sveta> io: when did that change if I may ask?
[12:29] <exarkun> Hi, I have problems with multiple displays: https://superuser.com/questions/776934/how-do-i-suspend-unsuspend-ubuntu-14-04-on-an-x230-with-an-external-display-with
[12:29] <sveta> io: it was gdm some 3-4 years back.
[12:29] <io> sveta: 2? version ago. I'm not certain
[12:30] <alphydan> sveta: default ubuntu?
[12:30] <sveta> io: ah, ok, makes sense (if you know where I can find some comments why they did this, I'd be a bit happier even)
[12:30] <sooli> anyone know how to add an alias IP with Ubuntu 14.04 ? /etc/network/ folder is not here anymore !?
[12:31] <io> sveta: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lightdm-to-replace-gdm-login-screen-in-ubuntu-11-10
[12:33] <nagerst> Hi
[12:33] <Amalesh> I am having problem with my vi editor. While in insert mode I am unable to correct mistakes with my "Backspace" key
[12:33] <Amalesh> could anybody help
[12:33] <Amalesh> ?
[12:33] <nagerst> Is there a dedicated channel for the last LTS? (precise 12.04.4)
[12:34] <Wasper> hello
[12:34] <Amalesh> Is there any dedicated channel for textt editor queries
[12:34] <Amalesh> ?
[12:35] <Wasper> I have problem... Ubuntu deletes all my applets, clock, sound icon... I have only Programs and Places
[12:35] <Wasper> How to restore it?
[12:35] <nagerst> Amalesh: there is for many of the editors. For example #emacs for that particular editor. I have no idea if there is one for vi
[12:36] <Volis> Is there any advantage of using Google Chrome versus Chromium in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? I've heard of Chrome using a newer version of flash player than Chromium does.
[12:36] <Amalesh> nagerst, may I know if you have an answer for this : I am having problem with my vi editor. While in insert mode I am unable to correct mistakes with my "Backspace" key
[12:37] <alphydan> I'm trying to diagnose why I can't login (get black screen). there's a ton of errors and warning.  I'm looking at .xsession-errors on tty.
[12:37] <nagerst> Amalesh: i have no ide i do not use vi
[12:37] <alphydan> but I don't know how I can copy them out of the system
[12:38] <bcvery> !pastebinit | alphydan
[12:38] <sveta> io: thanks!
[12:39] <sveta> bcvery: I think it would be reasonable to use dpaste.com instead of paste.ubuntu.com. it remembers the nickname, expires pastes. ubuntu's pastebin the bot just linked is just too plain.
[12:39] <theadmin> sveta: Eh, it works fine for sharing something once and forgetting about it
[12:39] <Munster> o/
[12:40] <sveta> alphydan: pastebinit is a nice configurable tool. you can also install gpm (a mouse driver) and a web browser to copy things manually (select to copy and middle-click to paste)
[12:41] <sveta> theadmin: agreed :) I don't know whether pastes expire in it at all.
[12:41] <sveta> Munster: hi.
[12:41] <theadmin> sveta: Well... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1/ still exists
[12:42] <sveta> when trying to run Qemu, I get "Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory". what package does it need? I'm doing a web search, but it is not being very helpful.
[12:42] <yuiibe> .....
[12:42] <Munster> hi sveta
[12:42] <sveta> yuiibe: help you with anything?
[12:43] <sveta> theadmin: it is a bit frustrating to know that everything people share here in the pastebin remains there forever. that's sort of by design I think though.
[12:43] <alphydan> bcvery/ubottu: thank you. will try to install from tty
[12:44] <sveta> it is easy to install it in tty. sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:44] <alphydan> the copy pasting needs to work shell only
[12:44] <sveta> it will paste it to the pastebin website for you, or you can use gpm (mouse driver), but it is a bit excessive for a small task like this.
[12:45] <PinFloyd> Q: 'acpi_video0' has disappeared in '/sys/class/backlight'. Any idea to restore it?
[12:45]  * sveta headdesks, continues web search on the kvm thing.
[12:46] <sveta> ahem, "[15067.389567] kvm: disabled by bios
[12:46] <sveta> "
[12:46] <sveta> thanks, dmesg :)
[12:46] <Squall5668> Hello all. I could use a hand here with an asterisk setup in 14.04. I have set both "enabled" and "webenabled" to yes in manager conf but the manager is still disabled. I have tried restarting the service and the server to no avail
[12:47] <Caroga> morning all!
[12:47] <jnoob22> 'mornin'
[12:49] <awds> I'm trying to create an nfs share. But on the client I can't open any of the shares unless the server files have a 777 (rwx -all) permission. but i don't want, nor does it need 777
[12:49] <awds> client fstab:nfs    noauto,rw,user  0  0
[12:49] <sveta> what OS does the server run, and what username are you using to connect to the share?
[12:49] <awds> server exports:(rw,wdelay,insecure,root_squash,no_subtree_check)
[12:50] <alphydan> ok, trying to diagnose login/black screen. I pasted ~/.xsession-errors
[12:50] <alphydan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7746944/
[12:50] <alphydan> (system language is spanish, but most errors are in english)
[12:50] <awds> sveta: server is raspberry pi, username pi uid guid 1000
[12:50] <awds> sveta: client is ubuntu username user uuid guid 1000
[12:51] <sveta> awds: you get a password prompt when connecting to server, and you type ``pi'' as username there and provide its password?
[12:52] <cool_boy> Hi, I am trying to create hard link for a directory getting error message "ln: ‘link2/’: hard link not allowed for directory"
[12:52] <awds> sveta: no I'm mounting through fstab on boot
[12:52] <awds> sveta: no login details are asked
[12:53] <sveta> cool_boy: as I'm in the middle of troubleshooting a few things, I can't read and summarise this for you. please see if this resolves your question: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/22394/why-hard-links-not-allowed-to-directories-in-unix-linux
[12:54] <sveta> awds: I suspect you need to tell it to mount with a username and a password. please give your fstab entry and wait for someone else to help (unfortunately a blank area to me)
[12:55] <awds> sveta: the strange thing is i can get it to mount ok when file permission is set to 777, but when i change it to 666 it doesnt mount
[12:56] <awds> sveta: this is the fstab 'nfs    noauto,rw,user  0  0'
[12:56] <sveta> dear #ubuntu, please read what awds said above. it is not to me, as I don't know what those things do. thanks :)
[12:57] <alphydan> trying to diagnose with .xsession-errors gives a long list of errors and warnings (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7746944/) I'm not sure which one to google/investigate first. What looks more serious?
[12:57] <cool_boy> sveta: thanks
[12:59] <sveta> alphydan: I would "ls -latr ~/.xsession*" (this sorts by time) and look at the latest ones.
[12:59]  * sveta doesn't like "fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":1"", but if it's not recent, it's completely irrelevant.
[13:00] <MetalqueerNope> finally a channel without metaleer in it
[13:00] <sveta> MetalqueerNope: we don't know who this is. It is a support/discussion room.
[13:00] <Caroga> lols
[13:00] <sveta> hopefully you're not going to tell us how "lovely" metaleer is now. thanks :)
[13:00] <MetalqueerNope> i am :)
[13:00] <sveta> no, you're not :)
[13:01] <MetalqueerNope> oh i see
[13:01] <MetalqueerNope> you're staffer
[13:01] <alphydan> sveta: thank you for the suggestion, but there are only 2 files: .xsession-errors.old and .xsession-errors (which I put on the pastebin)
[13:01] <sveta> alphydan: I see. could you please paste the one which is not old separately?
[13:02] <alphydan> (the one which is not old  is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7747001/ )
[13:02] <sveta> MetalqueerNope: today, I'm "breaking things in this {directory,vm}", so it's a bit different. and I end up reading other things in here a bit :)
[13:03] <sveta> alphydan: does the desktop show up for a small time, or does it instantly take you back to the login screen?
[13:04] <alphydan> sveta: I don't see the desktop at all. when I do "lightdm restart" and try to login, it goes back to login screen almost immediately
[13:05] <alphydan> (the guest user however can login fine)
[13:06] <Glorfindel> what is the website for pasting images?
[13:06] <sveta> alphydan: I see.
[13:06] <DJones> !imagebin | Glorfindel
[13:06] <sveta> Glorfindel: I tend to use www.imgur.com or commons.wikimedia.org, depending on how reusable you expect it to be.
[13:07] <alphydan> sveta: should I try to restart, see if the .xsession gets re-written? (would I do it with sudo halt?)
[13:08] <sveta> alphydan: in what language is this? I am not following about 60% of what it's saying (a lot of things are trying to start, and then it says "Resource temporarily unavailable" (a thing usually happens to me when there's too many things running), but I have trouble identifying the main problem. -- a language channel might help you, or someone else here.
[13:08] <sveta> alphydan: it gets written to the .old one, and a new one gets created. probably during each login anyway -- xsession doesn't know when you rebooted and when you didn't
[13:08] <Glorfindel> thanks :) ok, how do I get partitions out from under a differant one in gparted? http://imagebin.org/314986 I want to get all the unalocated space to the bottom ov the view so I can make a bigger partition. Any ideas?
[13:09] <alphydan> sveta: yes, sorry, it's spanish.
[13:09] <sveta> alphydan: if you could post this to #ubuntu-es while also staying here it could be an interesting thought. tell them that you're also discussing this here. to join, type /join #ubuntu-es
[13:10] <alphydan> sveta: thank you. will ask over at #ubuntu-es and report any solution
[13:10] <sveta> alphydan: I would probably start with clearing session for that user, if it has session save enabled (so that all the programs re-open after reboot automatically). does it?
[13:11] <k1l> Glorfindel: you need to resize eeach partition to move the unallocated space to the end of the disk
[13:11] <alphydan> sveta: how do I "clear session"? (session save should not be enabled. Programs don't re-open after reboot as far as I know)
[13:13] <k1l> Glorfindel: start with resize/move sda7to the front of the extended partition sda4. then resize sda8 (swap) to the size you want so you can remove the second swap (sda6) anyway.
[13:13] <daviator> hello. my laptop Toshiba Satellite L305 have ubuntu 12.04 and its rebooting randomly or screen becomes white
[13:14] <Glorfindel> k1l: I have been just using move/resize option
[13:14] <Glorfindel> that is fine though, right?
[13:15] <k1l> Glorfindel: which partition do you want to extend?
[13:15] <Glorfindel> I want to make a new one that is 100 gig for data recovery
[13:15] <Glorfindel> so I'm not extending any
[13:16] <sveta> alphydan: there are two distinct concepts. one of the is session, something people can clear to stop any optional programs from opening automatically which they left open when logging out. another concept is "autostart", which is a set of programs considered necessary under any circumstances, such as various applets. -- how to clear or manage either of those depends on the desktop you're using and requires someone who's more experienced
[13:16] <sveta> than I to help out, as I've not been using the default desktop and I'm personally out of the loop. sorry. please wait.
[13:16] <Glorfindel> I would like to get sda7 sda5 sda8 and sda6 out of the sda 4 extended partition
[13:17] <k1l> Glorfindel: you need to "move" the unallocated space to the end while moving the other partitions to close the gap
[13:17] <k1l> Glorfindel: that doesnt work
[13:18] <alphydan> sveta: ok. thank you for all the advice. learnt a few things this morning! Let me check on the spanish version, see if somebody can interpret the session errors and I'll get back
[13:18] <k1l> Glorfindel: you can only have 4 primary partitions. and you already have 3 (the xosl114, the ntfs and the extended (including sda7 sda8 sda5 sda6)
[13:19] <Glorfindel> ah, so if I deleted the xosl I could make a new one? I'm not using it anyway
[13:19] <k1l> Glorfindel: move sda7 to the beginning of the extended one.
[13:19] <sveta> alphydan: their channels is smaller; you'll have no issues staying in both; look forward to hearing about your next things
[13:19] <k1l> Glorfindel: there is no need to. ubuntu is fine in the extended
[13:19] <sveta> alphydan: good luck :)
[13:21] <Glorfindel> k1l I can't move sda7 any further than it is
[13:21] <Glorfindel> and I want the unallocated space to be moved, the ubuntu partition is fine
[13:21] <Glorfindel> nevermind
[13:22] <Glorfindel> I solved it
[13:22] <Glorfindel> I just resized the sda4 partition so that all the free space was on the outside :)
[13:22] <Glorfindel> thanks for the help :D
[13:23] <daviator> hello. my laptop Toshiba Satellite L305 have ubuntu 12.04 and its rebooting randomly or screen becomes white
[13:23] <k1l> Glorfindel: i would suggesting to remove the small swap partition. there is no need for that
[13:23] <Glorfindel> ok, will do that too
[13:26] <||arifaX> I set           sudo iw reg set CZ    how can I set this permanent in a configuration file?
[13:27] <introom> hi
[13:27] <introom> I have this ppa: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux
[13:28] <introom> I'd like to install the latest 1.9 version, however aptitude install by default gives me the 1.8 version, how to overwrite that behavior?
[13:33] <theadmin> introom: That's not a PPA...
[13:33] <theadmin> introom: That's a package source page, you linked the wrong thing
[13:33] <theadmin> introom: Anyway, did you run apt-get update after adding a PPA?
[13:34] <stillfarway12> can someone explain to me what this error mean in my log file  :  2014-07-04 14:03:31,052 INFO  com.domain.common.install.modules.ServiceModule  - Service controller exited with the following error code: 1060, stdout: [SC] OpenService ‚chec(s) 1060 :
[13:34] <introom> theadmin: sorry. wrong link
[13:34] <introom> https://launchpad.net/~pi-rho/+archive/dev
[13:34] <introom> this one
[13:35] <theadmin> introom: Ah, alright. Well, anyway, run "sudo apt-get update" and try "sudo apt-get install tmux" again afterwards
[13:35] <stillfarway12> ??
[13:36] <stillfarway12> Any idea please ???
[13:36] <theadmin> stillfarway12: Not talking to you :P When someone replies to you they normally include your username in the message, you see all messages in the chatroom, not just those directed to you
[13:37] <stillfarway12> <theadmin : I know taht  :P
[13:38] <stillfarway12> can someone explain to me what this error mean in my log file  :  2014-07-04 14:03:31,052 INFO  com.domain.common.install.modules.ServiceModule  - Service controller exited with the following error code: 1060, stdout: [SC] OpenService ‚chec(s) 1060 :
[13:39] <introom> theadmin: yup. thnx
[13:40] <Guest86741> hi guys, I was trying to install Kubuntu 14.04 and after the installation my pc get freeze on the kubuntu splah, I tried at least 5 times uninstalling and installing again and nothing different, I thought OK I'll try with Opensuse, I hat the ISO 12.3 I installed it and everithing was OK, so I wanted the lastest version and I downloaded 13.1, I installed it and it crashed, the problem is  the same with Kubuntu, it start but get freeze, I have to start it
[13:40] <Guest86741>  in recovery mode but in normal mode it doesn't work..... I tried many things but nothing, I was thinking tha maybe it's a problem with the lastest version and my hardware so there are any way to write to the developers specifying my hardware or something like that???
[13:41] <xmj> moin
[13:42] <xmj> I need mozilla's NSS package to pull stuff from our company's git repos. on freebsd, that's ca_root_nss and on centos it's ca-certificates. what's the ubuntu 13.x equivalent?
[13:45] <DJones> xmj: Not sure if this is what you're looking for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nss But be aware that 13.04 is EOL so getting the package may be more difficult and 13.10 will be EOL on 17th July
[13:47] <xmj> DJones: i'm running 13.10 in a vm
[13:47] <xmj> it's only ever used to reproduce stuff :)
[13:47] <xmj> but, tyvm.
[13:47] <mcl0vin> gooooood morning everyone and happy 4th of July :)
[13:47] <xmj> my own independence day starts in 1h13m <3
[13:49] <mcl0vin> lol with xmj
[13:52] <jass> sveta: still there?
[13:54] <sveta> yes
[13:55] <jass> sveta: I have to transfer backup from windows to ubuntu using winScp
[13:55] <jass> but when I do a ifconfig I see no address of my machine
[13:55] <sveta> oh! is the machine online or now? via ethernet or wifi?
[13:56] <sveta> or not*
[13:56] <jass> sveta: it's ethernet connection b/w them
[13:56] <vorsprung> jass, there is no dhcp so you have to set an address manually
[13:57] <jass> vorsprung: I am sorry. I am not that experienced
[13:57] <jass> but I have wireless connection in that laptop
[13:57] <vorsprung> jass, edit /etc/network/interfaces and add something like
[13:58] <vorsprung> iface eth0 inet static
[13:58] <vorsprung>   address 192.168.1.37
[13:58] <vorsprung>   netmask 255.255.255.0
[13:58] <yuiibe> hellow？
[13:58] <yuiibe> 嘎嘎
[13:58] <vorsprung> but use the name of your interface instead of eth0
[13:58] <sveta> yuiibe: hi!
[13:58] <yuiibe> 嗨
[13:58] <vorsprung> and make the address on the same network as the existing windows machine
[13:58] <jass> vorsprung: I see a ipv6 address though
[13:58] <sveta> yuiibe: what language is this?
[13:58] <bcvery> !cn | yuiibe
[13:59] <blueingress> sveta cn
[13:59] <yuiibe> chinese
[13:59] <vorsprung> jass, sorry I don't do ipv6 someone else can help you with that
[13:59] <sveta> thanks, bcvery :)
[13:59] <bcvery> sveta, np
[14:00] <jass> vorsprung: okay, let's do ipv4
[14:02] <xmj> DJones: looks like ca-certificates 20130906 is too old for RapidSSL-signed SSL certs
[14:02] <xmj> DJones: regardless... thanks
[14:02]  * xmj waves
[14:04] <alphydan> sveta: i'm back from the .xsession-errors. #ubuntu-es was too quiet, so nobody replied. But a good friend helped out.
[14:04] <alphydan> sveta: I tried again to startx, and saw that xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[14:05] <k1l> dont use startx.
[14:05] <k1l> start the lightdm
[14:05] <alphydan> k1l: no. lightdm was not showing any messages. so we were trying to troubleshoot by using startx on purpose
[14:06] <alphydan> k1l: I'm explaining how we solved the problem I was asking about above
[14:06] <k1l> messing with startx will break the permissions in your home. make sure that everything in the home belongs to your user. especially .Xauthority etc
[14:06] <jass> vorsprung: changed the file but no change
[14:06] <alphydan> sveta: so we looked at the user rights, ls -lh .xsession-errors
[14:06] <alphydan> ls -lh .Xauthority
[14:07] <alphydan> and they were only root, -rw------- 1 root
[14:07] <alphydan> sveta: so we $ sudo chown username.username .Xauthority
[14:08] <jass> brb
[14:08] <alphydan> $ sudo chown username.username .xsession-error
[14:08] <sveta> alphydan: i see
[14:08] <alphydan> sveta: then stoped and started lightdm and it was all fine
[14:10] <alphydan> sveta: so problem solved. Thank you so much for helping out. now back to work! :)
[14:10] <sveta> alphydan: oh, all fine even, that's lovely --  http://www.namhuy.net/1077/fixing-error-in-locking-authority-file-xauthority.html has some detail about it
[14:12] <alphydan> sveta: interesting. I'm not sure how I got in trouble, as it happened after my laptop ran out of battery, not after installing anything.
[14:12] <alphydan> anyway, thank you
[14:14] <Malaspigar> My boss is mad at me because I'm resigning
[14:15] <holstein> Malaspigar: use the #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss and chat
[14:15] <MohamamdSaleh> HI
[14:15] <MohamamdSaleh> exec('sudo echo "ali" > /var/www/test.txt'); does not working, why?
[14:16] <sveta> MohamamdSaleh: hi. in what programming language are you doing this?
[14:16] <MohamamdSaleh> sveta: php
[14:17] <MohamamdSaleh> I can touch a file, but echo to a file does not working
[14:18] <sveta> MohamamdSaleh: why are you running exec on things in php? you shouldn't do this, php has modules for file operations.
[14:19] <MohamamdSaleh> sveta: ok, I know that, but I want to use linux command
[14:20] <sveta> MohamamdSaleh: some libraries or subroutines -- i don't know their names, but if you can join ##php and ask, they'll happily offer help. i thought i even saw a 'open' and 'write' funtions in their documentation, ie FOPEN, FSCANF mentioned at http://php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.io-streams.php ...... exec of dynamic stuff is insecure .....
[14:20] <sveta> if you have a reason to do a command please mention it and i'd help you do it if it's reasonable
[14:21] <felix__> hey
[14:21] <felix__> anyone on
[14:22] <MohamamdSaleh> sveta: just only it is easy to use
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> MohamamdSaleh  some 600 people in ##php, thats's double #
[14:22] <MohamamdSaleh> sveta: ok, thank you very much
[14:23] <sveta> :)
[14:23] <qknight_> hi. i uninstalled all kernels (by fault) and did a reboot. now my life ubuntu desktop stick crashes when i go into the graphis menu (but could be SMP related, too). how do i disable the graphical stuff on booting?
[14:23] <MohamamdSaleh> sveta: does #php is private channel?
[14:24] <azkaban> hoi
[14:24] <azkaban> hay
[14:24] <bcvery> azkaban, Hi, please ask your support question
[14:24] <sveta> MohamamdSaleh: no, it is ##php with two hashes
[14:25] <sveta> azkaban: hi! :)
[14:25] <qknight_> also i can't use apt-get to install something, because the graphical installer seems to block it somehow, i get: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[14:25] <azkaban> my parole player shou vw gstreamer eror
[14:26] <sveta> azkaban: have you got the error message text please?
[14:26] <MohamamdSaleh> sveta: This channel requires that you have registered and identified... so, How to register?
[14:26] <bcvery> !register
[14:26] <sveta> MohamamdSaleh: what ubottu said :)
[14:27] <azkaban> Could not initialise Xv output
[14:27] <azkaban> gstreamer eror
[14:29] <somsip> MohamamdSaleh: php will run as the apache user. It will not have sudo rights. Adding sudo rights to apache is a bad idea
[14:30] <MohamamdSaleh> somsip: I have add www-data to sudo
[14:31] <somsip> MohamamdSaleh: very bad idea. I will not help you with poor practices like that
[14:31] <MohamamdSaleh> somsip: why the idea is bad?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> why do so many people want an unsecure system (retorical question)
[14:32] <somsip> MonkeyDust: naivety?
[14:33] <ezeql> hi, any searcheable applications menu for compiz?
[14:33]  * MonkeyDust chmods complete distro to 777
[14:33] <azkaban> is there any progrramer
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> azkaban  try #ubuntu-app devel
[14:34] <somsip> !permissions | MonkeyDust ;-)
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> azkaban  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:34] <azkaban> thanks
[14:35] <qknight_> does the ubuntu 12.04 not support ext2 filesystems? my boot fs ist ext2 and i accidentally uninstalled all kernels
[14:36] <holstein> qknight_: yes.. 12.04 has ext2 support
[14:36] <qknight_> holstein: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso <- this is what i have
[14:36] <holstein> qknight_: 12.04 supports ext2
[14:36] <qknight_> holstein: but yet mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/boot tells me: mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext2'
[14:37] <holstein> qknight_: id say, you have other problems.. first thing i would do is make sure i have my data backed up.. that will be a good use of time since *all* drives fail.. then, move on to repair.. chroot or reinstall or whatever
[14:38] <holstein> testing the hard drive would be on my list..
[14:38] <qknight_> holstein: no, the disks are alright, i just removed the kernels and did a apt-get upgrade
[14:38] <qknight_> which then installed the new grup (with no kernels) and rebooting will then start memtest86
[14:39] <jhutchins> ext2 has been supported since kernel 0.99 in 1993
[14:39] <qknight_> probably my rescue stick is broken, it also tells me: SQUASHFS error: unable to read page, block 273737, size a802
[14:39] <qknight_> ok, thanks
[14:39] <qknight_> i replace my stick now
[14:39] <holstein> qknight_: you'll not assume the disks are "alright".. test them to be sure, and have your data backed up regardless..
[14:40] <holstein> qknight_: a lack or ext support is *not* the issue.. thats not the only thing that message can indicate..
[14:40] <holstein> lack of*
[14:41] <globalnet> ebet
[14:44] <jass> Okay, I have ran sudo /usr/sbin/sshd to start the server, sveta
[14:44] <jass> I hope I am doing things right
[14:44] <istanza> Salve. Ubu 14.04 virtualizzato con virtualbox, ricevitore usb dvt-b e kaffeine: canali sintonizzati ok, audio ok ma schermo nero...
[14:44] <jass> just wondering where it would save all the data
[14:44] <holstein> jass: to start ssh?
[14:44] <holstein> !ssh
[14:45] <bcvery> !it | istanza
[14:45] <jass> holstein: I am going to use winScp to transfer, from win to ubuntu
[14:45] <holstein> jass: it'll save where you save.. in the directory you are or specifiy
[14:46] <jass> jass: I see. then it would dump everything in home directory
[14:46] <jass> which is bad
[14:46] <holstein> jass: its not "bad".. its just whats happening, and you can do or specify otherwise
[14:48] <jass> hmmmm
[14:50] <sveta> azkaban: you mentioned that you uninstalled kernels accidentally and you're getting an error; please give a full description of the error messages. I personally think that a system /can not boot/ without a kernel.
[14:51] <jass> holstein: i can create some directory and stop the sshd
[14:51] <kagumu> hi
[14:51] <jass> and then go to sshd and start it in that directory, will that do, holstein ?
[14:51] <holstein> jass: sshd is not moving any files.. its just ssh
[14:51] <holstein> jass: you will be use scp to move.. and ssh to facilitate the connection
[14:52] <jass> holstein: yeah
[14:52] <holstein> jass: what is the goal here? an ongoing connection between windows and ubuntu? or a one time move?
[14:52] <jass> holstein: one time move of some 300G data
[14:52] <somsip> jass: use rsync so you can resume
[14:52] <jass> moving the backup to ubuntu from windows
[14:53] <jass> somsip: but rsync would work from windows?
[14:53] <somsip> jass: no idea. This is an ubuntu channel
[14:53] <holstein> jass: there is a GUI.. grsync
[14:53] <somsip> jass: fair question though :)
[14:54] <holstein> jass: ftp would be on the table for me, since its one time, and behind my network.. ftp server on the windows box.. for example
[14:54] <yuiibe> wtf
[14:55] <jass> holstein: okay, but I donn't see my address in ifconfig
[14:55] <sveta> yuiibe: pardon?
[14:55] <holstein> jass: that is a problem that is different from sharing files.. and will be needed regardless
[14:55] <jass> holstein: also where all the data would go when I move it? There is no specification of how to set path https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[14:56] <holstein> jass: ssh is *not* moving the files, friend.. its just making the connection
[14:56] <yuiibe> ...
[14:56] <holstein> jass: you would specify when moving where you want the files to go.. in the GUI for rsync, grsync, there are easy ways to specify the destination
[14:56] <jass> holstein: gotcha
[14:57] <holstein> jass: you just get ssh running, which you dont need to do, since ssh client is already in ubuntu.. and you done need the ssh server there.. you can run a server on the windows side to faciliate the transfer.. ftp for example
[14:59] <jass> holstein: Ohkay
[14:59] <jass> holstein:  so I don't need to give any settings of my ubuntu into windows
[14:59] <jass> I would do everything from my side
[14:59] <xlrg> \join #c++
[15:00] <holstein> jass: i wouldnt overthink this, since its a one time transfer..
[15:00] <holstein> jass: you would setup a server on one machine or the other, and access with a client on the other.. and copy the files
[15:00] <jass> holstein: yeah, just starting it. Need to know the local address
[15:02] <holstein> jass: yes.. but, you'll need local addresses and connections *regardless*.. those are given.. you'll want IP's and firewalls down or access granted.. what would i do? pull the windows firewall down and make sure the machines can ping each other
[15:03] <jass> pfft
[15:03] <jass> going to use fileZilla
[15:04] <holstein> jass: sure.. thats an option on both ubuntu and windows.. so, ftp server on windows? or ssh on ubuntu? you can connect to ssh server on ubuntu from sftp client in filezilla on windows
[15:04] <jass> ftp on windows
[15:04] <jass> with freeSSHd
[15:04] <holstein> jass: i would want resume, as somsip suggested
[15:04] <Bosi> Hello everyone... So I've been using Spotify for a while, but today this annoying error message started to appear when I update: E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[15:04] <Bosi> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/repository.spotify.com_dists_stable_non-free_i18n_Translation-pt%5fBR
[15:04] <holstein> jass: you dont need freesshd..
[15:05] <holstein> jass: openssh is what you would use on ubuntu
[15:05] <Bosi> The software is working fine... but these error messages are kind of annoying
[15:05] <holstein> jass: but, you dont use a server on both sides like that.. you dont need ftp server on windows and ssh on ubuntu.. or ftp and ssh servers.. you only need one server and one client in the scenario
[15:05] <Bosi> any ideas on how to fix them?
[15:06] <jass> holstein: I am going to stop sshd I have started with sudo service sshd stop
[15:06] <jass> and then start ftp on windows
[15:06] <holstein> jass: you need not do that, friend
[15:06] <jass> using filezilla on ubuntu
[15:06] <jass> and transfer it all
[15:06] <jass> holstein: Oh
[15:06] <bcvery> Bosi, yes this: http://forum.pinguyos.com/Thread-Few-Problems-with-Pinguy-New-to-Linux?pid=33166#pid33166
[15:07] <holstein> jass: ssh is just running on the ubuntu side.. when installed, its running.. you need not stop and start it like that
[15:07] <jass> okay, got it
[15:07] <holstein> jass: i would want to make sure whatever im using, such as grsync, as suggest.. or just rsync, can resume
[15:08] <holstein> jass: you do not want to get halfway through that large transfer, and have to start over.. repetitively..
[15:08] <Bosi> bcvery, will check it out! thanks!
[15:08] <jass> I have used filezilla before. So  sounds very easy for me :p
[15:08] <holstein> jass: sure.. does it resume?
[15:08] <jass> Yeah, it doe
[15:08] <jass> +S
[15:09] <krabador> what vga mode i can use on ati radeon 9200 on lubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:09] <krabador> it seems slow
[15:11] <holstein> krabador: it really depends.. are you using the proprietary driver?
[15:12] <krabador> holstein, i can't. the latest for 9200 its supported only until xorg 1.13
[15:12] <holstein> krabador: that would be the "best" likely for linux support
[15:12] <krabador> holstein, only mesa radeon driver
[15:13] <Bosi> bcvery, aaaaand bingo! Thanks man! That fixed it!
[15:13] <bcvery> Bosi, np
[15:13] <holstein> krabador: i would probably test with the proprietary one
[15:14] <krabador> holstein, 9200 haven't one for xorg > 1.13, right?
[15:14] <krabador> i must use only opensource driver
[15:14] <holstein> krabador: you can meet the specifications needed and test
[15:15] <holstein> krabador: otherwise, i might temporarily use the vesa driver to make sure the issue is driver related
[15:15] <krabador> i tested vga=824 vga=829 on grub
[15:16] <holstein> krabador: did you test with the vesa driver?
[15:16] <krabador> only nomodeset works
[15:16] <holstein> krabador: sure.. sounds like the issue is hardware support related to me.. the vesa driver is always an option for me with hardware like that, that specifically doesnt support linux
[15:21] <rymate1234> I keep getting "Write error on swap device" in the installer console log
[15:22] <jass> holstein: I think I will have to do it  by flash drive :(
[15:23] <holstein> jass: you can choose to.. otherwise, ftp or ssh is an option.. or samba
[15:23] <holstein> !samba
[15:24] <jass> ah
[15:32] <tombtc> when will I be able to upgrade my 12.04 to 14.04 via Update Manager?
[15:33] <holstein> tombtc: whenever you like..
[15:34] <cfhowlett> tombtc ^^^ this
[15:34] <tombtc> I've got Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS now
[15:34] <tombtc> and cannot see update available
[15:34] <cfhowlett> tombtc software settings > show LTS release only
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> tombtc  you can set it in the update preferences
[15:39] <tombtc> cfhowlett, changed to LTS releases only. Not showing any update available.
[15:39] <jass> !samba
[15:41] <badass> w
[15:41] <badass> w
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> badass  it works, we see you
[15:43] <Spr1ng> Really stupid question here but do I copy the private or public key of a remote server to the local authorized_keys2 file when SSH'ing into a remote server?
[15:44] <ezeql> hi, any searcheable applications menu for compiz?
[15:44] <badass> s
[15:44] <badass> s
[15:44] <badass> s
[15:44] <badass> s
[15:44] <badass> s
[15:44] <badass> s
[15:44] <unopaste> badass you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:45] <robairt> Spring: I'm going to have to go with public
[15:45] <holstein> ezeql: pressing the super key in unity allows for searching like that.. AFAIK
[15:45] <zeretiuz> Spring: Public...
[15:45] <HaaPut> Spr1ng: public key
[15:45] <Spr1ng> Which means I need the private key of the remote server already installed on the local system?
[15:45] <robairt> Spring: unless you have a tunnel or something set up their private ip might be the same as a machine on your network, and you likely can't see that address
[15:45] <Tomes> Hello, what would be a good free paint software for ubuntu
[15:45] <zeretiuz> Spring: the private key is... private!
[15:46] <xangua> Tomes: pinta, paint.net
[15:46] <Spammeris_here> l
[15:46] <Spammeris_here> l
[15:46] <Spammeris_here> l
[15:46] <Spammeris_here> g
[15:46] <Spammeris_here> g
[15:46] <Spammeris_here> g
[15:46] <unopaste> Spammeris_here you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:47] <robairt> Spring: if you're not connected to the same network, and you're not working with tunnels, you likely don't even need to know the private ip
[15:47] <Tomes> xnagua: thanks
[15:48] <Tomes> xangua: thanks
[15:49] <adsc> does the new release of ubuntu contain more u than the old one? I ask because I ran out of u in the old release and had to by a refill pdate
[15:49] <adsc> damn, it's happening again
[15:49] <holstein> adsc: more u?
[15:49] <tombtc> hmm got it now. had to do sudo update-manager -d. not sure what's the difference :D
[15:50] <zeretiuz> asdc: more u or more me?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> tombtc  -d means development
[15:55] <dbext> Im having a problem, im not getting any sound whatsoever.. i did everything that i saw on forums i reinstalled the pulseaudio, i checked that alsamixer everythings fine
[15:55] <dbext> but im still not getting any sound
[15:55] <holstein> dbext: have you applied all upgrades? are you using 14.04?
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> dbext  in a terminal, type    alsamixer     if you see MM, go there hit m
[15:56] <dbext> yeah im using 14.04 the alsa mixer is on 00
[15:56] <vini> hi
[15:56] <aviran> Hey, I'm experienceing something odd, I have a file I cant run
[15:56] <aviran> http://pastebin.com/5Z9MYpKj
[15:56] <aviran> here's the output
[15:56] <vini> i need help with upgrade process
[15:56] <holstein> dbext: open a terminal and run "aplay -l" and share the output in a pastebin
[15:57] <vini> i can't update my system. I get message not enough disk space in /boot
[15:57] <dbext> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[15:57] <dbext> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC9221 A2 Analog [STAC9221 A2 Analog]
[15:57] <dbext>   Subdevices: 1/1
[15:57] <dbext>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[15:57] <dbext> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: STAC9221 A2 Digital [STAC9221 A2 Digital]
[15:57] <dbext>   Subdevices: 0/1
[15:57] <unopaste> dbext you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !details|vini
[15:57] <holstein> vini: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share output/errors in a pastebin.. please, in a pastebin
[15:57] <holstein> !paste
[15:58] <vini> ok sorry
[15:58] <holstein> dbext: if it were me, i would get a live CD and experiment there. you could have copy/pasted something that breaks audio completely.. for all we know
[15:59] <holstein> !audio
[16:03] <vini> after using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:03] <vini> there is an error
[16:04] <holstein> vini: sure. use a pastebin to share the exact output for the volunteers here to assist you
[16:04] <vini> "the volume boot has only 10.4MB disk space remaining"
[16:04] <vini> its a popup message not a console output
[16:04] <holstein> vini: if the /boot partition doesnt have enough room, you will get that message..  is it in fact low on space?
[16:05] <OerHeks> vini, open softwarecenter and remove some old kernels
[16:05] <vini> which ones?
[16:06] <cfhowlett> vini save the most recent 2.
[16:07] <OerHeks> you will get an error if you remove the current and the one before this one, so you cannot remove too much
[16:08] <vini> ok
[16:09] <vini> where can i find them in software center?
[16:10] <OerHeks> linux-headers / linux-image
[16:14] <vini> cant find it in software center
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> vini  search headers
[16:16] <sdafd> Is there a good solid way to share files and have decent performance with windows as the host and ubuntu as the guest using virtualbox?
[16:16] <holstein> !samba | sdafd
[16:16] <holstein> though, there are easier ways inside vbox..
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> sdafd  indeed, vbox has its own share settings
[16:17] <sdafd> Yup I understand that vbox has it's own however the performance seems to be pretty slow.
[16:17] <sdafd> Running a git status on a laravel project it takes like 30 seconds for it to show anything
[16:17] <holstein> sdafd: is it the driver/transfer speed? or the virtulization, though..
[16:17] <sdafd> I tried mounting with CIFS which is similar to samba? and it was still just as bad unfortunately.
[16:18] <Ace1> Hey everyone.,,
[16:18] <sdafd> holstein, can you explain a little more?
[16:18] <holstein> sdafd: i would expect "just as bad" if the virtualization is the bottle-neck
[16:18] <sdafd> holstein, is there a way I could test each or figure out which one it is?
[16:19] <sdafd> My VM has 2 cores with 4gb of ram.
[16:20] <zeretiuz> I get an an annoying anomaly in irssi. I am not sure if it is about unicode or something, but it looks like this: http://postimg.org/image/zdmg1x4vv/  any ideas? seems like there is a character missing...
[16:20] <holstein> sdafd: just by trying and isolate, to be sure you are are troubleshooting the correct thing
[16:21] <Ace1> First day back on Linux and IRC after a 10 year hiatus.  Great fun!
[16:22] <zeretiuz> Ace1: wb
[16:22] <sdafd> holstein, I see. Do you have any other recommendations to share files between the two?
[16:22] <Ace1> thanks zer!
[16:22] <bcvery> Ace1, great to hear it.  If you have a support question please post it to the channel, or if you'd like to chat please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <Ace1> will do bc!  I'm trying to find all the new hot versions of the apps I used to use.  :)
[16:22] <Ace1> Alot has changed.
[16:23] <holstein> Ace1: feel free to /join us in #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss
[16:24] <Ace1> will do!
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> Ace1  obviously, as 1 year equals eternity in computing, that's 10 times eternity
[16:24] <oiip> hi, i was wondering if anyone could help me with connecting a sixaxis controller through usb. everything online is for bluetooth connection
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> oiip  that's xbmc?
[16:26] <oiip> no sorry, sixaxis ps3 controller
[16:26] <oiip> not sure i understood your question MonkeyDust
[16:26] <holstein> oiip: typically, if its supported, it'll "just work".. is there a package to install to faciliate support?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> oiip  how is your question ubuntu related?
[16:27] <daniel> hola
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !es|daniel
[16:30] <sdafd> holstein, I think I may have actually uncovered something. It might have been because I was using NAT networking type
[16:33] <somsip> sdafd: have you tried bridged?
[16:33] <sdafd> somsip, Yes and it was much quicker than NAT
[16:33] <sdafd> I"m trying host only right now as well
[16:34] <somsip> sdafd: ISTR I setup my VMs as bridged and can connect and map drives to them quite easily
[16:34] <sdafd> somsip, Yup!
[16:35] <sdafd> somsip, the issue for me was performance and bridged seems to speed things along a lot quicker than nat
[16:36] <somsip> sdafd: ah - I thought you had no connection at all. My bad
[16:36] <sdafd> somsip, It's ok :). Any help is better than no help :).
[16:37] <sdafd> holstein, thank you for just saying the right thing. I thought about changing the networking type but never did anything until you started talking about those two different types whether it was network or virtualization related
[16:38] <holstein> sdafd: sure.. hope you get the performance you seek
[16:38] <jass> holstein:  when I try to ssh to windows it stuck at connecting to ip-address step
[16:38] <sdafd> holstein, I did :) mostly! It's 20x better than it was before in bridged mode!
[16:39] <holstein> jass: you will need to see that you can ping the machines regardless
[16:39] <jass> holstein: same behaviour with fileZilla
[16:39] <jass> I see
[16:39] <sdafd> holstein, I would run a git status on a small project and it would take 30 seconds. switching branches would also take a while.
[16:39] <holstein> jass: windows is offering no ssh server, unless you are faciliatating that
[16:39] <jass> holstein: no ping reply from the machine
[16:39] <holstein> jass: what would i do? ftp server on windows.. ubuntu client that can resume
[16:40] <holstein> jass: then, you will not be able to move or copy *any* files over the network til you address connectivity of the machines
[16:40] <holstein> jass: are you on the same subnet? did you infact pull down the windows firewall?
[16:40] <jass> holstein:  I did it the last time yeah
[16:41] <holstein> jass: you did what the last time?
[16:42] <holstein> jass: you will troubleshoot the connectivity of the machine *before* moving on to the transfer, regardless.. if you cant ping each other, you wont be able to fire up any software to move files on your lan..
[16:42] <jass> holstein: I moved a bunch of data from my windows to this another window
[16:42] <holstein> jass: are you on the same subnet?
[16:43] <holstein> jass: can both machines ping the gateway? the common gateway..
[16:43] <jass> yeah
[16:43] <jass> hmm, nope
[16:44] <jass> subnets are different I guess
[16:44] <jass> one is 255.255.255.0
[16:44] <holstein> jass: then, you address that *before* moving on.. nothing you do will make the machines share files on the lan like that if you cannot ping each other
[16:44] <jass> and other is 255.0.0.0
[16:44] <goofdall> jass: sure
[16:44] <holstein> jass: yes. that is likely why the machines are not able to communicate with each other.. you have configured them to *not* be able to communicate with each other
[16:45] <holstein> jass: you can always run a live CD on both machines, and move from linux to linux with default networking config..
[16:45] <jass> I see, holstein
[16:45] <goofdall> holstein: hacker can communicate
[16:45] <goofdall> jass: You got it
[16:46] <jass> any op around?
[16:46] <jass> this goofdall  is pming me with swear words
[16:46] <holstein> !freenode
[16:47] <holstein> jass: i understand your frustration.. you can block the user if you need
[16:47] <somsip> !ignore | jass
[16:48] <jass> oho I need to ignore his ip actually
[16:48] <jass> he is with another nick now
[16:48] <jass> anyways, let him do what he will
[16:49] <scardycatz> YO!
[16:49] <jass> holstein: may I pm you?
[16:49] <holstein> jass: sure
[16:50] <sdafd> You guys have a great 4th if you're in the US :) have a good one!
[16:50] <scardycatz> Is ubuntu going to ditch the x server in favor of what fedora uses.
[16:50] <Guest16373> Hello.  I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit.  When using kernel version 3.13.0-30, Ubuntu fails to boot up.  I had to switch back to 3.13.0-29.  Is there a fix? Can I/should I delete the kernel that is causing problems, or wait for an upgrade and use 3.13.0-29 in the meantime?
[16:51] <scardycatz> Guest16373: You using proprietary graphic driver
[16:51] <Demonhat> hello if anyone here
[16:51] <Guest16373> scardycatz, no I have integraded intel graphics
[16:51] <Demonhat> i am seeking help
[16:52] <Guest16373> GM45 express chipset
[16:52] <Guest16373> What do you need Demonhat
[16:52] <theadmin> scardycatz: Ubuntu is currently working towards the creation of their own X.org replacement, Mir, it's present by default in recent Ubuntu versions, though I'm not sure if it's actually enabled by default or whether it still defaults to Xorg
[16:54] <scardycatz> theadmin: just wondering because proprietary graphics drivers don't work with fedora x org replacement
[16:54] <theadmin> scardycatz: Wait, what does Fedora use? Wayland?
[16:55] <scardycatz> theadmin: wayland
[16:57] <Demonhat> can someone helpme with my problem. i am new to ubuntu
[16:57] <theadmin> Demonhat: What is your problem?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> Demonhat  let's hear it
[16:58] <Demonhat> well the problem is that ubuntu 14.04 hangs alot in my dell
[16:58] <puskihilaer> Demonhat: have you used any other distros
[16:58] <Demonhat> no
[16:58] <Demonhat> i am just using ubuntu for now
[16:59] <puskihilaer> jass
[16:59] <theadmin> Demonhat: If you're new you may want to stay with Ubuntu. What is your hardware like?
[16:59] <Demonhat> i have 4 gb ram, intel core i5 processor
[17:00] <Demonhat> 1 gb graphics and it is of RADEON
[17:00] <jass> puskihilaer: yeah?
[17:00] <theadmin> Demonhat: That should work well, but try installing the AMD driver
[17:00] <Demonhat> where should i install them from
[17:00] <theadmin> Demonhat: System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers -> Check the AMD one
[17:01] <Demonhat> i mean i looked at additional drivers and it showed me that it had installed AMD
[17:01] <theadmin> Ah alright, so that's installed
[17:01] <puskihilaer> theadmin: he has Intel why and.
[17:01] <theadmin> puskihilaer: He did say Radeon... That's an AMD brand
[17:02] <puskihilaer> Intel i5 probably better than catalyst in linux
[17:03] <theadmin> puskihilaer: uwot? The core i5 is a processor, Catalyst is an app, how do you even compare the two
[17:03] <ilovelinux> hello
[17:03] <theadmin> Demonhat: Does it freeze when you do something in particular, or just randomly?
[17:03] <puskihilaer> I5 has its own built in graphics hw
[17:04] <Demonhat> yeah it freezes when i do something particular
[17:04] <theadmin> puskihilaer: Oh, that's what you're talking aboot -- yeah, but using the integrated graphics usually gives worse performance than a dedicated GPU
[17:04] <theadmin> Demonhat: so what is it, then?
[17:05] <Demonhat> yesterday i created a new account in my computer and i opened it up. I felt like why was i even using ubuntu
[17:05] <Demonhat> because more than funtioning properly it was always freezing
[17:05] <Demonhat> but when i use it from the account that i am using now, it doesn't behave like that
[17:06] <Demonhat> it seems like after some hours, ubuntu gets familier with the account hahhaha..
[17:06] <Demonhat> and so it runs smoothly
[17:08] <Demonhat> so no one has experienced a problem like me
[17:11] <jhutchins> Nope
[17:14] <Demonhat> hello
[17:15] <holstein> Demonhat: sounds like you know where the issue is..
[17:15] <ilovelinux01> hello
[17:15] <Demonhat> can you teach me about ubuntu
[17:15] <Demonhat> i am pretty new to this
[17:15] <Caroga> hi all
[17:15] <ilovelinux01> hi Caroga
[17:16] <Demonhat> i feel  ignored
[17:16] <holstein> Demonhat: i would say, not generally like that.. but, if you have a more specific question, the volunteers here can easily address them
[17:16] <ilovelinux01> which distro you use?
[17:16] <Demonhat> well i had
[17:17] <Demonhat> but no one answered my question
[17:17] <ilovelinux01> which distro you use?
[17:17] <holstein> Demonhat: about the user accounts? i just stated, at least you know where the issue is
[17:17] <holstein> ilovelinux01: this is the ubuntu support channel.. please dont poll
[17:17] <himself_> 'Teach me about ubuntu' Hard to get more vague than that on an ubuntu irc while staying on topic
[17:18] <Demonhat> i know where the issues are but you still haven't told me how to fix it.
[17:18] <Caroga> himself_, he could have just said "teach me some stuff"
[17:18] <Caroga> bringing it to a whole new level of vagueness
[17:18] <holstein> Demonhat: have you tried just simply applying updates?
[17:19] <Demonhat> yeah
[17:19] <OerHeks> Demonhat, you haven't told us what you do when "it freezes when i do something particular"
[17:19] <Demonhat> i have installed all updates while was intalling
[17:19] <kindomcome> :)
[17:19] <holstein> Demonhat: yeah? whay? you have applied updates? how? when? will you please open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", even if you have already.. thanks
[17:20] <Caroga> hi OerHeks
[17:20] <Demonhat> i have told you. 1) it freezes whenever i create a new account or open the ubuntu software center for installing some software
[17:20] <holstein> Demonhat: please open a terminal and copy paste "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and paste errors..
[17:20] <Demonhat> yesterday i installed dropbox and after 5 second, my whole computer froze for more than 10 minutes
[17:20] <holstein> !paste | Demonhat
[17:21] <holstein> Demonhat: if you need dropbox support, i would ask the creators of dropbox.. otherwise, try disabling and/or removing it to isolate it from the issues you are having
[17:21] <OerHeks> Does syncing take 10 minutes?
[17:22] <OerHeks> hi Caroga
[17:22] <holstein> Demonhat: my dropbox account is quite large, and took over a day to sync, and the machine was quite (expectedly) laggy during the process..
[17:22] <Caroga> dropbox syncing has always been very slow, imho
[17:23] <holstein> Demonhat: what i will do, if i have access to the files, is manually put the files or most of them in place, with a network connection or USB drive.. then, the dropbox needs not pull down the files like that. it can index what i have manually synced
[17:24] <Caroga> holstein, what i usually do is download everything from the dropbox website, this is faster. Unpack it, and place it inside the dropbox folder.
[17:24] <Caroga> and then dropbox does the rest.
[17:24] <holstein> Caroga: hey, thats not bad.. if you dont have a copy locally.. i like that
[17:24] <Caroga> holstein: ;-)
[17:25] <Caroga> Jordan_U, I eventually ended up using MSDOS tables instead of GPT. Somehow this didn't worked well OOTB
[17:28] <Demonhat> now how do i paste my problem here
[17:29] <holstein> !paste | Demonhat
[17:29] <Demonhat> should i paste link
[17:30] <holstein> Demonhat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:30] <holstein> Demonhat: if you 'd like for a volunteer to view the pastebin link, you can share it here
[17:30] <Demonhat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7747953/plain/
[17:30] <thomas6104> hi users
[17:31] <holstein> Demonhat: please open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:33] <holstein> Demonhat: after that, please disable and/or remove dropbox til you get your graphics issues stable
[17:33] <Demonhat> why
[17:33] <holstein> Demonhat: why, what?
[17:33] <Demonhat> why should i remove or disable dropbox?
[17:33] <holstein> Demonhat: why disable dropbox? its irrelevant, and just complicating your troubleshooting of your grahpics hardware
[17:35] <Demonhat> well listen up, i have looked at system setting and it shows that graphic driver is properly installed. Even if the graphic driver is the problem, how will i fix it? You haven't told me the solution
[17:35] <Caroga> Demonhat, Please explain exactly what your problem is, people have been posting several commands for you to execute already.
[17:36] <holstein> Demonhat: the solution would be, for the creator of the hardware to provide you linux support, as they have provided you windows support.. but, since that is not likely, its just you and me right now.. and i need more data and have suggestions for you to do
[17:36] <holstein> Demonhat: have you removed dropbox? and/or disabled? have you ran the update command in the terminal? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[17:37] <Caroga> holstein, what is the problem he is facing actually? I havent been tracking it.
[17:37] <Demonhat> i am doing it. Downloading takes whole lot of time man.
[17:38] <holstein> Caroga: looks like graphics driver support.. probably just needs a proprietary graphics driver installed.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7747953/
[17:38] <Caroga> hmm
[17:39] <Caroga> Demonhat, how much RAM do you have?
[17:39] <Demonhat> and <holstein> ask me anything that you want to know. i will provide you the information but i want to get this problem fixed. But lets just wait till the download completes
[17:39] <holstein> Demonhat: there is not "fix" though, friend.. nothing is broken
[17:39] <Demonhat> I have 4GB RAM
[17:40] <holstein> Demonhat: you can just try other driver options.. and updates to address the lack of support for your hardware
[17:40] <Demonhat> i wanted to be greatest computer scientist of the world and this problem is kicking my butt.
[17:41] <usr13> Demonhat: "my admin account"  What is that?
[17:41] <Caroga> hi usr13
[17:41] <usr13> Caroga: Hello :)
[17:41] <Demonhat> the account that i created at the time when i installed the ubuntu for the first time.
[17:42] <usr13> Demonhat: So just keep using that one.  (You said it runs fine on that one, right?)
[17:42] <Demonhat> yeah
[17:43] <usr13> Demonhat: (not sure why it would be different from one account to another but...)
[17:43] <usr13> Demonhat: So just keep using that original account.
[17:44] <Demonhat> i would do the same but you see i will have many private things in my account. i dont want others to see it. So i have to open a new account for other ultimately
[17:45] <usr13> Demonhat: What happens when you run from one of the other accounts?
[17:46] <Demonhat> well the problem is that it only freezes alot when i open a new account and use it for 4 or 5 day. After that, it becomes completely normal and runs smoothly like the account i am using now
[17:48] <Caroga> usr13, you happen to know what module i have to blacklist to disable my fingerprint reader ?
[17:49] <usr13> Demonhat: You say that you can not use software center on the other account.  Right?  Well, that is because it does not have sudo (admin) priviledges.  Unless you afford those special rights to the other user, it will not have access, (it is suppose to be that way).
[17:49] <high_fiver> is there a bug with cs:precise/mysql being unable to start?
[17:50] <Demonhat> usr13: i am the only one who uses this computer for now and i have installed the ubunutu my self. why would it not have priviledges?
[17:50] <high_fiver> the mysql service that is
[17:50] <usr13> Caroga: No, I don't.  But should be fairly easy to find out.
[17:50] <holstein> Demonhat: the other users you have added dont have permissions to manage software
[17:51] <Caroga> high_fiver, I would rather ask in a mysql irc channel
[17:51] <holstein> Demonhat: you can grante them permission.. but, then they will have rights to manage your files
[17:51] <Caroga> if there is any
[17:51] <high_fiver> Caroga, it's a ubuntu charm
[17:51] <Demonhat> well when it ask for permission to enter the password of the admin, i have always entered it.
[17:51] <high_fiver> Caroga, I'll head over there if you think it will help
[17:52] <usr13> Demonhat: Because if you add a new ueser, that new user will have only limited privileges until shuch time as you afford more rights to more devices and / or services.  (It is suppose to be that way.)
[17:52] <holstein> Demonhat: if you are asking a quesiton like "why cant users i add install software?". its becuase they are not granted permission
[17:52] <Demonhat> oh okay
[17:52] <Caroga> high_fiver, Asking around in there wouldnt hurt, if they have the same problem they may already have a solution. If so, maybe add bug to launchpad and report possible solution.
[17:53] <usr13> Demonhat: It is that way by default.  It is pretty easy to change it though.  But why do it? (If you are the only one using the computer, you can just use the original account.)
[17:53] <usr13> Demonhat: I can tell you how to change it if you like,.
[17:53] <holstein> if you give the new user sudo access, they can access your files..
[17:53] <high_fiver> Caroga, cool I'll give it a shot
 whatever. I want to ask this as well, how to make a new LoCo Team? I read the documentation is which is the website but i haven't understood a word. Can you help me?
[17:55] <holstein> Demonhat: is there no loco team where you are?
[17:55] <Demonhat> holstein: no
[17:55] <ProfessorKaos64> Do LTS versions (i.e. 14.04 LTS) get kernel updates?  I am referencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1326725/comments/52 and my PS3 USB controller support would be fixed, but if it won't I guess I need to do this manually.
[17:56] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: you get choice
[17:56] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: you can use different Ubuntu branch kernels with it
[17:56] <ProfessorKaos64> As part of  standard install? well will that kernel get upgraded if I just wait?
[17:56] <holstein> Demonhat: you can try #ubuntu-locoteams
[17:56] <ProfessorKaos64> rather than force users of my project to upgrade the kernel
[17:56] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: as part of standard install it stays with oldest Canonical can maintain
[17:57] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: you can switch to using latest Ubuntu kernel with LTS any time though
[17:57] <NthDegree> for example I'm rocking 3.11 on 12.04LTS
[17:57] <NthDegree> :D
[17:57] <NthDegree> (I could be on 3.13 but it's broken for some things)
[17:57] <ProfessorKaos64> ah ok, NthDegree , so to do that, should I just install the deb like this: http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/04/installupgrade-linux-kernel-3-14-trusty-ubuntu/
[17:58] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: there's a built-in package for it
[17:58] <ProfessorKaos64> Where can I find that? Thank you for helping
[17:59] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: there should be virtual packages like linux-headers-generic-lts-saucy
[17:59] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: and linux-image-generic-lts-saucy
[18:00] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: it should be the case that when LTS+1 is out, that those official packages will be made available
[18:01] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: for now, you can use saucy LTS if you still need security updates and the kernel is new enough for your hardware =]
[18:01] <ProfessorKaos64> Hmmm never heard about LTS+1 and all that, I'm mainly an Arch guy. Is there a mailing list of page I can follow those releases?
[18:01] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: by LTS+1 I mean next Ubuntu release (sorry... nerd lingo)
[18:02] <ProfessorKaos64> oh np
[18:02] <ProfessorKaos64> I chose 14.04 since it was stable and I could hit a slow moving target for my git project
[18:02] <ProfessorKaos64> Stinks that the hid-sony kernel module regressed
[18:03] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: well you should be able to throw on the 13.10 kernel by apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-saucy
[18:03] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: that'll let you keep 14.04 LTS with the older kernel with security patches still =]
[18:04] <NthDegree> ProfessorKaos64: when 14.10 is out, you can then throw on the newer kernel by apt-getting that ;-)
[18:04] <ProfessorKaos64> hhmmm interesting
[18:04] <ProfessorKaos64> I'll have to decided if I want to make people do that in my install script or just note it in the wiki
[18:05] <NthDegree> coolest part:  Proprietary drivers still work, they're not dependant on a specific branch
[18:05] <NthDegree> I use saucy kernel with 12.04LTS because 3.13 won't work with some proprietary software
[18:06] <Blocker> Hi everyone. I am attempting to upgrade Ubuntu 11.04 - the Natty Narwhal to a supported release but the automated system wants to upgrade to 11.10 but I get a "failed to fetch" error every time.
[18:06] <holstein> !eol
[18:07] <NthDegree> Blocker: you're best off installing a newer release cleanly
[18:07] <NthDegree> Blocker: but you might be able to upgrade to 12.04 if you manually change the apt sources
[18:08] <oniMaker> I'm running into "Abort pclzip.lib.php : Missing zlib extensions"
[18:08] <NthDegree> Blocker: but be prepared to handle breakage since I'm not sure if Canonical test jumping two releases at once
[18:08] <oniMaker> it looks like zlib is installed though
[18:08] <oniMaker> and there are config options set for it in php.ini
[18:09] <Blocker> NthDegree, if it breaks, I've always got the clean install option..
[18:10] <NthDegree> Blocker: open up /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:10] <NthDegree> Blocker: I'll pastebin mine so you know what changes to make
[18:11] <NthDegree> Blocker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7748099/
[18:11] <_Crash_Laptop> hi, just came across a strange issue with my server. I'm running 12.04 LTS and the root partition is full up.
[18:11] <NthDegree> Blocker: after that you want: apt-get clean all && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:11] <NthDegree> Blocker: remember to remove any PPAs from sources beforehand
[18:13] <t__> Hello. Is it possible to run 64bit Ubuntu Server inside Oracle VirtuaBox on 32bit Ubuntu?
[18:13] <holstein> t__: i would see no advantage to it..
[18:13] <Blocker> NthDegree: Just cut and paste that into my sources.lst?
[18:14] <NthDegree> Blocker: yeah, remove all the old lines
[18:14] <NthDegree> Blocker: you only want lines for precise pangolin (12.04)
[18:14] <t__> holstein, I need to test on thing on Ubuntu Server, and I don't have possibility to install it here on real hardware.
[18:14] <holstein> t__: go for it..
[18:15] <t__> holstein, You bet I'll, Sir. Thank You for Your words.
[18:19] <Blocker> NthDegree: I've got to be able to edit the sources.list first... I've tried with text editor and librewrite.
[18:19] <NthDegree> Blocker: as root
[18:19] <NthDegree> Blocker: it's a system file
[18:20] <Blocker> NthDegree: Fairly new to Ubuntu.
[18:22] <Beldar> Blocker, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list use the text editor of your choice.
[18:23] <Blocker> NthDegree: Edited
[18:24] <Blocker> Beldar: Thanks.
[18:24] <NthDegree> Blocker: sudo apt-get clean all
[18:24] <NthDegree> Blocker: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:25] <Blocker> NthDegree: In Progress
[18:26] <Beldar> Blocker, No problem, just use a text editor or the terminal, never libreoffice or a doc app.
[18:28] <Blocker> Beldar: I cut my teeth on CLI but got rusty using a GUI for too long.
[18:29] <Blocker> NthDegree: Looking like it is progressing OK. 1538 upgraded, 616 newly installed, 51 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1,467 MB of archives. After this operation, 826 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[18:30] <Blocker> NthDegree: Spoke too soon... "Reading package lists... Done E: Invalid operation dist-upgradey"
[18:31] <uv> Blocker: upgradey? is that a typo or did you run that?
[18:31] <Blocker> uv: cut and pasted from the terminal screen..
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> Blocker  upgrade, not upgradey
[18:34] <joar> does anybody have a HiDPI screen? I'm not having very much luck with mine, everything except GTK elements are rendered in 4K resolution
[18:34] <joar> MonkeyDust:
[18:34] <joar> MonkeyDust: he's aware of that, sorry about the empty message
[18:37] <apeoid> I am really liking ubuntu
[18:40] <Blocker> MonkeyyDust: I think that slipped in when it asked mke if I want to continue <sigh> Working much better now without the extra letter..
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> Blocker  another tip: type mon and then hit tab, see what happens... here in irc
[18:41] <t__> Hello. What should I install in Ubuntu Studio to access the same terminal that exists in Ubuntu Server or regular Ubuntu?
[18:41] <NthDegree> MonkeyDust++
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> t__  if you you screen, you can login in an exiting terminal
[18:41] <joar> t__: i've never used ubuntu studio, but regular ubuntu uses gnome-terminal
[18:41] <Blocker> MonkeyDust: Ah! Thanks...
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> !screen | Blocker
[18:43] <_Crash_Laptop> anybody?
[18:44] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: the root partition is full? in what regard? updates?
[18:44] <teward> _Crash_Laptop, explain what you're talking about, are you saying that the system is saying there's no space on disk left?
[18:44] <_Crash_Laptop> in "/" yes
[18:45] <Blocker> MonkeyDust: Nw you've lost me.. Too early in the mornong I think <G>
[18:46] <_Crash_Laptop> Its completely full.. i've no idea why
[18:46] <boz> i set a folder to share (samba) but cant access it from a windows machine on the same lan. "do not have permissions" even though i've given full control to everyone
[18:46] <_Crash_Laptop> i run stuff in /home and thats it
[18:46] <boz> (kubuntu 14.04)
[18:46] <_Crash_Laptop> holstein, teward
[18:46] <Blocker> NthDegree: 2 and a bit hours to go.. Thanks.
[18:46] <teward> _Crash_Laptop, is that reflected in the output of `dh` on the terminal?  (the item saying "Mounted on /" in the last column is where you'll see /)
[18:47] <teward> _Crash_Laptop, assuming a standard install you'll have one partition, but it's still a valid question since i've seen weird setups.
[18:47] <_Crash_Laptop> its an OVH server
[18:47] <_Crash_Laptop> 2 disks in raid
[18:47] <_Crash_Laptop> 1TB
[18:48] <teward> _Crash_Laptop, that doesn't answer my question :p
[18:49] <_Crash_Laptop> dh?
[18:49] <teward> _Crash_Laptop, do this: cd /var/log; ls -alh
[18:49] <teward> pastebin the results
[18:49] <teward> !pastebin > _Crash_Laptop
[18:49] <teward> _Crash_Laptop, i am having you check there because i made a mistake and misconfigured a service on my system and it just ATE disk space with logs... hence me asking you to check there :)
[18:51] <_Crash_Laptop> teward, http://pastebin.com/8Yrc5K2t
[18:51] <Blocker> MonkeyDust: thanks for your help also.
[18:51] <OerHeks> _Crash_Laptop, remove some old kernels, that will fix it
[18:52] <teward> _Crash_Laptop, also what OerHeks said too
[18:52] <_Crash_Laptop> OerHeks, since i dont have access to apt-get anymore since i need to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to correct issues
[18:52] <_Crash_Laptop> i'm not sure how to remove old kernels
[18:55] <HaaPut> !patience
[18:55] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: you can always just try "sudo apt-get autoremove" and see what is listed there
[18:56] <_Crash_Laptop> holstein, "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[18:56] <_Crash_Laptop> and when i run that, it cant finish since there is no space
[18:56] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu >> dpkg -l linux-* | awk '/^ii/{ print $2}' | grep -v -e `uname -r | cut -f1,2 -d"-"` | grep -e [0-9] | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[18:57] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: Whats the full output you get - can you pastebin it please?
[18:57] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: I had the same problem on my VPS, so I guess I can help you :)
[18:57] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, go ahead, please :)
[18:57] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, and that is the full error message i get
[18:57] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: I need to see the requested output :)
[18:58] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: you are entering a command which produces more than that one line.
[18:58] <dbb> hi all - I want to add a PPA and then "pin" the install to that PPA.. I dnot want to do this globally, just during one script. any ideas?
[18:58] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, i can quite happily show you an image if you want. that is all i get
[18:59] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: Pastebin the entire output of 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' please
[19:00] <dbb> right now I have ... apt-add-repository --yes ppa:jtaylor/ipython
[19:00] <dbb> apt-get update
[19:00] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfnf42orlc16n6v/error.png
[19:00] <dbb> I want to make sure to prefer the ipython dependancies from PPA jtaylor/ipython
[19:00] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: "sudo apt-get autoremove" and pastebin
[19:01] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: I'll second holstein.
[19:01] <_Crash_Laptop> read the photo i've already ran that command as root....
[19:01] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: are you saying, i should read a photo?
[19:01] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: So pastebin "df -h".
[19:02] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: No photo, pastebin please.
[19:03] <_Crash_Laptop> That's just making things awkward... the answer is in an image i took a screenshot of to also prove that it's a one line error.
[19:03] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:03] <_Crash_Laptop> holstein, look at the screenshot i posted
[19:03] <_Crash_Laptop> http://pastebin.com/FhK5TzxZ ---- output of df -h
[19:04] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a
[19:04] <_Crash_Laptop> holstein, are you playing games with me?
[19:05] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: if you will run *only* that command again, and pastebin the entire output please
[19:05] <_Crash_Laptop> http://pastebin.com/YdPFBEvP
[19:06] <eeee> why are you running sudo if you are root btw
[19:07] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:07] <_Crash_Laptop> i just copied and pasted what them members are asking me to put to satisy them
[19:07] <_Crash_Laptop> holstein, I've just ran that command..
[19:07] <_Crash_Laptop> same error
[19:07] <_Crash_Laptop> nothing changed
[19:08] <_Crash_Laptop> Stop wasting my time.
[19:08] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: Calm down. "--reconfigure" is different from "--configure".
[19:08] <eeee> _Crash_Laptop: they dont know you are running as root
[19:08] <OerHeks> "sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a " is wrong >> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:08] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: sure. good luck.. try clearing out the space.. i had a typo  above, friend
[19:08] <_Crash_Laptop> holstein, right.
[19:09] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu >> dpkg -l linux-* | awk '/^ii/{ print $2}' | grep -v -e `uname -r | cut -f1,2 -d"-"` | grep -e [0-9] | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[19:09] <holstein> _Crash_Laptop: so, the errors shouldnt be the same, since its not the same command.. feel free and run it, and pastebin, and i'll still volunteer to look along with bekks
[19:09] <_Crash_Laptop> http://pastebin.com/DxFkXJyq
[19:09] <haron> hi guys
[19:10] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: so run "apt-get clean" as root now.
[19:10] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: And run the "dpkg --configure -a" again.
[19:10] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, nice, its configured pacman
[19:11] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: And then finished?
[19:11] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, not sure, am i supposed to remove some kernels as someone stated before?
[19:11] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: Did "dpkg --configure -a" finished or not?
[19:11] <bekks> *finish
[19:12] <_Crash_Laptop> yes
[19:12] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: So run "apt-get autoremove" and "df -h" and pastebin the output of both commands.
[19:13] <_Crash_Laptop> autoremove - http://pastebin.com/8dH4QLhX
[19:13] <_Crash_Laptop> df -h = http://pastebin.com/nXXv9ac3
[19:13] <lyda> i upgraded a laptop from straight from 12.04 to 14.04.  and now wifi fails to come back after sleep (though sleep now works which was a bit hit or miss before).
[19:14] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: You can now remove old kernels if you want to do that.
[19:14] <lyda> i'm getting the dreaded "wlan0: deauthenticating from f8:d1:11:88:43:ba by local choice (reason=3)" message.
[19:15] <lyda> looking online i see a number of reports which seem to indicate conflicting network management tools.
[19:15] <SeanChiarot> wondering if I can get a hand with a sharing issue using Samba4, I have the share setup, I can see all the files without needing to login (I want this) but I can't launch any of the files.  any ideas?
[19:15] <bekks> lyda: Most likely, the wifi driver is just crappy, when getting those messages.
[19:15] <lyda> is there a clear list of packages to have / packages not to have?  (i'd have thought the package metadata would have done that, but...)
[19:16] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, how?
[19:16] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: Pastebin "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" please.
[19:17] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, didnt give me any output?
[19:17] <Tom2014> Hello. I'm on Ubuntu LiveDVD. How can I check if it is 32 or 64bit version?
[19:18] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: That would indicate that no kernel is installed. Did you type the command correctly?
[19:18] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, yes
[19:18] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: So no kernel is installed.
[19:18] <_Crash_Laptop> ok?
[19:19] <SeanChiarot> Tom2014 I believe you would use uname -a
[19:19] <_Crash_Laptop> but my root is still full up 100% available
[19:19] <rwd> Tom2014: uname -m. x86_64 = 64-bit
[19:19] <pavlos> Tom2014, uname -a should tell you if it is an i386 (32bit) or amd (64bit)
[19:19] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: Until you try to reboot.
[19:19] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: Pastebin "ls -lha /boot" please.
[19:21] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, http://pastebin.com/4797TgDv
[19:22] <iceburnt> why uget didn't work well? before, it work well
[19:22] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: On an OVH VPS, thats the expected output. They do "install" a kernel without installing a package.
[19:22] <iceburnt> could you tell me?
[19:23] <iceburnt> could you tell me why uget didn't work well? before, it work well
[19:23] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, hmm ok.
[19:24] <_Crash_Laptop> bekks, so how did you solve this 100% disk space issue?
[19:24] <gaspyr> hi, is there a room for kali linux in freenode ?
[19:25] <bekks> _Crash_Laptop: Yes. I freed up space by uninstalling unneeded packages and removing unneeded data.
[19:25] <iceburnt> could you tell me why uget didn't work well?
[19:25] <Beldar> !kali | gaspyr
[19:28] <gaspyr> thanks beldar
[19:28] <Beldar> gaspyr, NO prob, don't go there in root.
[19:29] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: first you need to identify where the excess space is being used, with something like "du -xd 1 / | sort -n"
[19:30] <craigbass1976> I can't ssh user@localhost for anyone except the first user I ever set up on this box.  The other user is in all the same groups as far as I can tell.  What's missing?
[19:31] <bekks> craigbass1976: Whats the error message when trying to ssh?
[19:31] <SeanChiarot> wondering if I can get a hand with a sharing issue using Samba4, I have the share setup, I can see all the files without needing to login (I want this) but I can't launch any of the files.  any ideas?
[19:31] <craigbass1976> I jsut get permission denied.  su - to the same user works fine though
[19:31] <_Crash_Laptop> http://pastebin.com/PVu3LRR9
[19:31] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/PVu3LRR9
[19:33] <craigbass1976> as we say in Maine...  It's Weeeeahhhd (weird)
[19:33] <bekks> craigbass1976: Did you set a password?
[19:33] <bekks> craigbass1976: Did you set a password to the user "not working"?
[19:34] <lyda> ok.  weird.  killing the wpa_supplicant process will allow wlan0 to reconnect.
[19:34] <bekks> lyda: Actually wpa_supplicant is used to connect.
[19:35] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: According to that, root file-system is only using close to 10GB, whereas your 'df' output shows 100% of 20GB used. That suggests some process that is still running right now has unlinked (deleted) a file but its space will not be released until the process terminates.
[19:35] <lyda> yes.  i'm aware.  but killing the one that was running prior to suspend will then result in networkmanager spinning up a new one.
[19:37] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: You can check for unlinked but still-taking-space files using "sudo find /proc/*/fd/ -type l | grep deleted" and figuring out if any of those file-descriptor sym-links might be pointing to *large* files... in your case, files making up around 10GB
[19:38] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: correction to that command: "sudo find /proc/*/fd/ -type l -ls | grep deleted"
[19:39] <craigbass1976> bekks: yes.  I can su - to the user (and get prompted for the pass) but can't ssh in as them.
[19:40] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, i'm unsure if they are large files
[19:40] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: Is it a large list?
[19:40] <bekks> craigbass1976: Thats not an answer to my question. "su -" needs the root password, not the user password.
[19:41] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, yeah i guess
[19:41] <iceburnt> help, why uget cannot be opened?
[19:43] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: You might be able to free up some space without touching those unlinked files, at least enough to let you get the system stable so you can do a reboot. I noticed /var/ was very large which may mean the log-files or caches are big and could be cleaned up. Check that with "sudo du -xd 1 /var/ | sort -n"
[19:44] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, you're right there
[19:44] <craigbass1976> bekks: sorry, I meant su - otheruser
[19:44] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, any idea what i can remove to free up some space? I'm afraid if i reboot the server it wont come back since the disk is full
[19:44] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: can you pastebin the output from the /var/ listing?
[19:45] <senmahi> ./msg NickServ REGISTER bharyoge mahendran.senraya@gmail.com
[19:45] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/VsBqMkGq
[19:45] <holstein> senmahi: you need to change that password ASAP!.. now
[19:46] <holstein> senmahi: if you were registering, just register with a different one..
[19:46] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: You've got 2.6GB under /var/www/ - what is your web-server hosting!?
[19:46] <senmahi> ok, i will register with different name
[19:47] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, its shared
[19:47] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: dig down into /var/lib/ using the same command and lets look at the output
[19:48] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: Is it possible the shared hosting web-server is deleting large files? If that were so simply restarting the web-server would release the unlinked files its holding
[19:48] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/SU6naphe
[19:48] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, when i eman shared, its only me and my brother
[19:49] <bekks> craigbass1976: Which stoll does not answer my question.
[19:49] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, it is running ispconfig
[19:49] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: So, the biggest hog there is plexmediaserver
[19:49] <craigbass1976> bekks su - otheruser switches to the otheruser user doesn't it?
[19:50] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, we can remove that
[19:50] <_Crash_Laptop> not being used
[19:50] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: I'd focus on the running processes and seeing which services you can restart that will release those unlinked files
[19:52] <mepuq> hello ubuntu community! my grub bootloader order has just been changed after running the updates which contained those for grub, too. it is not that the current order is not ok, but I'm just curious whether an update can change the boot order. I'd tried it with a grub GUI application lately, but couldnt make it work.
[19:53] <holstein> mepuq: so, you are saying, an update has changed the boot order? and also asking if an update can change the boot order?
[19:53] <holstein> !grub
[19:53] <holstein> mepuq: you can change it "back" or, to whatever you prefer ^
[19:55] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, i can restart anything
[19:55] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, just not sure what i'm suppsoed to rerstart without rebooting the server which i'm afraid might not come back up
[19:55] <anshul> hi
[19:56] <cool_boy> match is starting:)
[19:56] <cool_boy> :)
[19:56] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: identify the process names from the process IDs in that original 'deleted' search, by cross-referencing the PID in /proc/$PID/fd/X -> /path/to/file with the output of "ps -efly", then you can identify the process and figure out how to stop/restart it
[19:56] <Beldar> mepuq, Can you explain more clearly, E.g. are you using the brub customizer from a ppa?
[19:56] <Beldar> grub*
[19:58] <SinnerNyx> Sorry for the newb question. I just downloaded an application (that's not available through app-get). Still pretty new to linux. Where would one normally extract it to and keep it? Where are most applications on linux stored?
[19:58] <SinnerNyx> *apt-get
[19:58] <bekks> SinnerNyx: Which application is it, actually?
[19:58] <SinnerNyx> pycharm
[19:58] <Beldar> SinnerNyx, Technically 3rd party apps/software is not supported here.
[19:58] <holstein> SinnerNyx: it depends on the application as to how it is intended to be installed..
[19:59] <SinnerNyx> Beldar: I'm not asking for support on the application. I'm asking where applications are normally stored in Ubuntu.
[19:59] <holstein> SinnerNyx: http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/installation_instructions.jsp?os=linux
[19:59] <Beldar> SinnerNyx, depends on the app and how you install if 3rd party
[19:59] <holstein> NOTE: PyCharm on Linux doesn't need special installation or running any installation script. It runs out of the pycharm-*.tar.gz ..specifically
[20:00] <holstein> SinnerNyx: you can just run it from where ever you unpack.. you dont need to move it into any system location, and ideally, i suggest *not* putting it in a system location that requires root..
[20:00] <SinnerNyx> holstein: Ya I saw that. But I still want to put it alongside where apps are normally stored? I can't imagine every app installs to a different place...
[20:00] <SinnerNyx> holstein: fair enough.
[20:01] <SinnerNyx> Out of curiousity where are apps downloaded through apt-get usually installed to?
[20:01] <holstein> SinnerNyx: applications install packages where needed
[20:01] <holstein> SinnerNyx: when using repo packages, the software managment system manages all of that.. different things different places, depending on needs
[20:02] <SinnerNyx> holstein: I guess I have alot to get used to coming from Windows. Thanks for listening to my dumb questions.
[20:02] <holstein> SinnerNyx: its not dumb at all..
[20:03] <Beldar> trying to learn is not dumb. ;)
[20:04] <PhilippeVienne> Hello
[20:06] <dbb> dumb people say "I know"
[20:06] <dbb> .. and stop inquiry
[20:06] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-,  its mostly apache, serviio and yeah
[20:06] <Beldar> !ot > dbb
[20:10] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: I'd suggest trying a restart of apache and serviio then, for apache it is simply "sudo service apache restart" not sure for serviio but I would hope it has an init.d or upstart init script
[20:11] <TJ-> _Crash_Laptop: after the service(s) restart, check the free-space report again with "df"
[20:11] <usr13> SinnerNyx: The config files are mostly in /etc/  but the executable files are in /usr/bin or /sbin/
[20:11] <anshul> terminal command to display connected devices?
[20:12] <SinnerNyx> usr13: Thanks, but I didn't want to split up (and I'm not sure I can split up the package. I thought maybe the programs go into /var somewhere and then links are made in /usr/bin or something.
[20:13] <usr13> SinnerNyx: you can use the which command to find where the actual ececutable file is.
[20:13] <usr13> SinnerNyx: Right.
[20:13] <usr13> SinnerNyx: You don't what to split stuff up.  The way it's organized is just fine.
[20:14] <TJ-> SinnerNyx: you can learn alot using "dpkg -L <packagename>"
[20:14] <Glorfindel> what is a good disk to partition cloner?
[20:16] <usr13> SinnerNyx:  And what I just told you is not hard and fast rules.  For instance, if you issue the command "which firefox" it will tell you /usr/bin/firefox but that is just a symlink to /user/lbin/firefox/firefox  (see: ls -l /usr/bin/firefox )
[20:17] <usr13> SinnerNyx: And as TJ- says,  dpkg -L firefox   will solve the entire mystery for you.
[20:17] <genii> Glorfindel: You can make images of an entire disk, or a partition with the dd command. For example:  dd if=/dev/sda of=/somewhere-on-local-disk/filename.img    would image sda to a file. To resore, you just reverse the if= and of= parts.
[20:18] <Glorfindel> so it would be easiest to make an image and restore it to the partition?
[20:18] <_Crash_Laptop> TJ-, nope
[20:19] <anshul> whats d topic of discussion?
[20:19] <usr13> anshul: Ubuntu
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> anshul  always the same topic, try #ubuntu-offtopic if you want something else
[20:20] <genii> Glorfindel: Yes.
[20:21] <Glorfindel> ok, thanks for the help
[20:21] <genii> Glorfindel: If you are backing up a disk or partition to a file, just make sure you have enough room on the disk you're putting it to for a file that size.
[20:24] <Myk_> evening, all
[20:25] <Myk_> trying to dual boot Ubuntu on a WIndows 8.1 laptop, clean installed in legacy mode instead of UEFI. I am booted from the Ubuntu live dvd, and I cannot format the second half of the hard drive for some reason. Any ideas?
[20:26] <usr13> Myk_: what partitions are on it now?
[20:26] <anshul> I am a beginner programmer, I have few skills in c++. Suggest me any good IRC channels!!
[20:27] <Myk_> usr13: just a ssec, I'll post a screenshot from the partition manager
[20:27] <usr13> anshul: /join ##c++
[20:28] <Myk_> usr13: Here you are    http://imgur.com/MBJ1kBb
[20:28] <anshul> suggest me good IRC channels, I am a beginner programmer
[20:28] <Myk_> Ubuntu wants to overwrite the entire hard drive, and I am unable to just format the second half to install Ubuntu to it.
[20:28] <mepuq> holstein, sorry! I wasn't alerted, hence just read your reply. yes, the boot order has changed after the update. but I'd done following:  used grub customizer application, and changed the boot order, but the changes weren't applied then. after that I didnt touch grub again.
[20:28] <OerHeks> !alis | anshul
[20:29] <anshul> yo
[20:29] <usr13> Myk_: You first must create a partition.  Then you can format the partition.
[20:29] <Myk_> usr13: seems it wont let me create the partition.
[20:29] <mepuq> Beldar, sorry, likewise, I just saw your reply. yes, I'd tried earlier the grub customizer, but the changes werent applied back then. and I did nothing else since. but now the change I wanted happened suddenly, I think due to the last update I ran before this session.
[20:30] <mepuq> because there were grub updates in there
[20:30] <Deihmos> Myk_, ubuntu works fine in uefi mode even with secured boot
[20:31] <Myk_> Deihmos: I triedto get a proper dual boot the other day with UEFI, and couldn't get back into Linux. So I formatted the hard drive, went to legacy boot mode, and reinstalled Windows, and am now trying to install Ubuntu
[20:31] <usr13> Myk_: Oh wait...
[20:31] <Myk_> I have follwed several tutorials, but it seems to be hit or miss. Mostly miss, for me ;)
[20:31] <Myk_> I know I can install Ubuntu by itself just fine, but this particualr machine I also use for my music recording, which requires some WIndows programs
[20:32] <usr13> Myk_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/388315/cant-format-or-delete-partitions-in-pendirve-cause-of-gpt-table-error
[20:32] <Myk_> usr13: let me take a look
[20:33] <blyd> my raid6 setup is showing "[6/5] [UU_UUU]" in mdstat and dmesg says for the drive that's missing: "EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem"
[20:33] <blyd> does this mean i need to replace the hdd?
[20:35] <hujuwami> hello, i'm trying to run a program (xstata) for the first time, and i get this error: ./xstata: error while loading shared libraries: libgnomeprint-2-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[20:36] <hujuwami> i can't find libgnomeprint-2-2 in the repos, and i need some help getting this installed. thanks!
[20:36] <genii> !info xstata
[20:36] <usr13> hujuwami: How did you install xstata ?
[20:37] <hujuwami> usr13 i can get stata to work, but not the gui version xstata (following this tutorial from a year or two ago: http://www.healthyit.org/2013/03/08/installing-stata-12-with-gui-on-ubuntu-12-10/
[20:38] <Myk_> usr13: have you used gdisk before? Seems like you've lcoated my issue but I'm having trouble with this. Perhaps I need to totally nuke this drive and start from scratch. Looks like wiping the GPT partition will do the trick, though
[20:39] <grex25> hi, i want to buy a new printer. I am between Epson and Canon. Where I can expect a good linux support?
[20:39] <usr13> Myk_: I've used fdisk and cfdisk and non-destrictive tools such as gparted and partition magic, not really sure about gdisk
[20:40] <bekks> grex25: HP actually :)
[20:40] <grex25> bekks: thats where I am, but I want something different ;)
[20:40] <Myk_> usr13: I imaged the drive before I started all this, so I'm just going to experiment since it can't hurt anything. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
[20:41] <usr13> Myk_: http://gparted.org/download.php
[20:42] <hujuwami> how do i get the packages libgnomeprint for trusty?
[20:43] <bekks> hujuwami: It is gone since 13.10 - what do you need it for?
[20:43] <lyda> u
[20:44] <lyda> sorry.
[20:44] <RageLtMan> Seeing something very odd with the net installers for ubuntu - 12.04 hangs after network config, and 14.04 hangs at decrypting the / LV. Same problem across different xen clusters, different hardware, different xen pool versions, started today far as i can tell, using kickstart and manual installations. Anyone else seeing similar?
[20:45] <RageLtMan> these are guest VMs i'm installing
[20:45] <RageLtMan> systems peg @ 100% cpu in both cases
[20:45] <dav> hallo
[20:45] <dav> can someone give me a hint for a ubuntu-prob.
[20:46] <nightdemon> just wanted to say hi, ubuntu 14.04 is a pain in the ass compired to previous versions, but have it working mostly the way i want on mac mini! :-D
[20:47] <usr13> hujuwami: http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/
[20:47] <Ptak> hi all
[20:48] <dav> Wie erstelle ich einen Firefox Autostarter. How do I set an autostart for firefox  --UBUNTU--
[20:48] <hujuwami> usr13 thanks, but i've been asked to install stata
[20:48] <Ptak> doer anyone knwo how to install citrix receiver on arch ??
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> !de | dav
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> Ptak  wrong channel, this is ubuntu
[20:49] <xangua> Ptak: ask in arch channel
[20:49] <usr13> dav: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48321/how-do-i-start-applications-automatically-on-login
[20:49] <Ptak> problem is thay talking like pros and get angry way to fast...
[20:49] <dav> thanks! usr13
[20:50] <Myk_> usr13: thanks again. Got the GPT removed. Now going to clean install Windows 8 again and try Ubuntu again.
[20:50] <usr13> Myk_: Very good!
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> Ptak  if it's above your head, try something else
[20:52] <Ptak> ok np im just stack with it for last 34 days so i thought it cant hurt to ask somewhere else :)
[20:52] <hujuwami> can someone help me install this package please? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/libgnomeprint/2.18.8-3ubuntu1
[20:52] <nightdemon> i do have a question, abiut ubuntu 14.04 64 bit mac version, is rhythmbox starting mute for everyone else, or is it just my system?
[20:52] <ProfessorKaos64> python-bluez is failing to fetch for me, making the rest of my deps for my project fail. any hints? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7748649/
[20:55] <Guest63224> Hello. Which virtual machine do You recommend to run Ubuntu Server inside Ubuntu Desktop?
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> Guest63224  virtualbox
[20:56] <Guest63224> MonkeyDust: Why?
[20:56] <holstein> yeah, i agree, virtualbox, or, just dont virtualize like that at all
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest63224  because it's in the repos and supported here
[20:56] <Guest63224> MonkeyDust: Fair enough :) TU
[20:57] <Ben64> Guest63224: why would you need to run server in a vm? desktop version can be a server as well
[20:57] <Guest63224> Ben64: I want to run dangerous commands, and want to keep my real machine safe.
[20:58] <Ben64> Guest63224: sounds good
[20:58] <nightdemon> agreed, no point in virtualizing the server when all the services can be run on non-virtual host. running vm would actually be more overhead
[20:59] <Guest63224> nightdemon: It will be "playground" without influencing real machine.
[20:59] <nightdemon> nevermind... i just read the last message Guest63224
[20:59] <Beldar> mepuq, So what is the core issue and what is it you want, and what OS's are on the computer?
[20:59] <RageLtMan> Has anyone done a net install of 12.04 x64 in the last few days? Seems to be broken
[20:59] <nightdemon> then i would agree with virtualbox... do you not have another computer to run these commands on?
[21:00] <holstein> RageLtMan: what iso are you using? mini?
[21:00] <Beldar> RageLtMan, A mini install? be exacting if you have a problem.
[21:01] <Guest63224> nightdemon: It's like that: Something terribly wrong goes in virtual machine - nothing serious happens. Something terribly wrong goes in real machine - You are screwed ;)
[21:01] <mepuq> Beldar, as I wrote at the beginning, I am just curious how the boot order could change by itself after an update. or whether the changes applied via grub customizer might have taken effect only after the referred updates. yet even in that case, the changes saved in the application are not fully adopted.
[21:01] <RageLtMan> Using net install as a xen vm
[21:01] <RageLtMan> on different clusters, hangs right after network detect
[21:01] <RageLtMan> diff hardware, diff xen versions
[21:01] <RageLtMan> will try in vbox next
[21:02] <RageLtMan> getting full DVDs to make sure
[21:02] <Beldar> mepuq, The grub customizer is a ppa not supported nor do we know what voodoo you did with it nor if done correctly, so unanswerable from us.
[21:02] <holstein> mepuq: you stated that you updated, and the boot order changed
[21:02] <anshul> hello
[21:02] <hem> hi its seems a libreoffice/unity bug is effecting with my nvidia geforce go 7400 card. The libreoffice menu is greyed and I cannot read it. Anyone with a solutionen that works? Tried a few but none works. This does not effect if I install cinnamon DE.
[21:02] <holstein> mepuq: you can refer to the grub wiki, and address the config and order, and share errors
[21:03] <hem> It only effects libreoffice under Unity
[21:03] <Beldar> hem, What ubuntu release?
[21:03] <hem> Beldar, 14.04
[21:04] <Beldar> hem, Cinnamon is a ppa in 14.04 so not supported. Choose one issue that is supported at a time please.
[21:04] <mepuq> holstein, yes. after update it happened. I was just curious if that is possible to happen. I
[21:04] <hem> Beldar, yeah but I use libreoffice daily, I cannot use it under Ubuntu with unity because cannot read the menu.
[21:05] <mepuq> Beldar. I am not mainly asking about things I did with grub customizer, if you read my questions
[21:05] <holstein> mepuq: if you added packages that facilitate that change, then, it'll happend.. its possible if you specifically add something that is supposed to do so
[21:05] <Beldar> hem, Honestly with you including two problems together you need to restate the libreoffice issue clearly.
[21:06] <hem> Beldar, I have read in launchpad that this bug supposed was fixed in 12.10. I can say it is not.
[21:06] <Beldar> hem, Have you added the libreoffice ppa as well or is this stock release fro  the ubuntu repos?
[21:06] <hem> Beldar, how is that 2 problem togheter?
[21:06] <holstein> hem: check as another user.. make sure you have no issue with your particular config..
[21:06] <Beldar> hem, never mind you cannot understand.
[21:06] <hem> Beldar, I have tried libreoffice from there site, openoffice and all gives same result.
[21:07] <hem> Beldar, :) If you think I am noob you are mistaking.
[21:07] <dotDeb> what's the problem?
[21:07] <holstein> hem: use the version in the repos.. the supported version from the repos and try as the guest user
[21:07] <hem> Beldar, I know Cinnamon is PPA and not best solutionen. Do you have a better?
[21:08] <holstein> hem: have you tried as another user?
[21:08] <hem> holstein, I use the version from the repo and its stil accours.
[21:08] <holstein> hem: as another user?
[21:08] <Beldar> mepuq, No but you stated you used it and it did not work, than have not clearly stated the issue, try to ook at it from out point of viewing in  understanding your issue.
[21:08] <Obiwantje> guys got a silly issue and not sure how to resolve - executing this command:
[21:08] <Obiwantje> find -L . -type f -name '*.gz'|head -32000|xargs mv -t /mnt/roms00/12
[21:08] <Beldar> look*
[21:08] <hem> holstein, I have delete libreoffice directery in home and that did not help. So I do not think new user or guest account will help.
[21:09] <Obiwantje> I get this error on several files:
[21:09] <Obiwantje> mv: cannot remove ‘./uncategorized/7634225269096ac762a6480cbd0b8866afbed79a.gz’: Read-only file system
[21:09] <holstein> hem: i suggest doing that *again* with the supported repo version..
[21:09] <Obiwantje> now if I by hand type: rm ./uncategorized/7634225269096ac762a6480cbd0b8866afbed79a.gz
[21:09] <hem> holstein, but I can try and I will come back. If you are in the channel I will write to you.
[21:09] <Obiwantje> it deletes the file no probs
[21:09] <mepuq> holstein, I manually didnt add any package. but I saw that multiple grub-related packages were included in the update. the reason for mentioning my own effort with grub customizer was to know whether the system might have recognized my attempt at changing grub, and automatically added packages (that made the changes take effect now, if the system works that way, of course)
[21:10] <Obiwantje> what might I be doing wrong?
[21:10] <holstein> mepuq: you stated you installed grub customizer..
[21:11] <mepuq> holstein, yes, but somehow the changes I made using it werent applied. and I didnt try further back then..this was a while ago. and today, before this session, I ran the update manager which included the grub updates I mentioned.
[21:12] <Beldar> mepuq, You are looking for a yes or no answer, it does not really work that way in linux sometimes, getting more acquainted with grub so you can ask exact questions with evidence will get you better help.
[21:12] <holstein> mepuq: sure.. and you already said that changes were made during that update, so you dont need to ask if changes can be made.. as for why they were made, i would look into the 3rd party, unsupported package
[21:12] <holstein> !ppa
[21:13] <holstein> mepuq: if you want to change something, refer to the docs, and try changing the config file, and running "sudo update-grub" and share any errors..
[21:17] <mepuq> holstein, now I see you probably misunderstood that I was trying to do more with grub at this point. no, I dont want to. as I said, I just found it strange that all of a sudden after the update my grub order changed. and you just replied that if I installed an external application and did something with it to grub, then it is well possible that the changes would take effect with an update. this was all I wanted to know. if I didnt get you wrong with the latt
[21:17] <mepuq> er, of course.
[21:22] <Beldar> mepuq, No we did not miss understand, your descriptions are convoluted and you want a yes or no.
[21:22] <Beldar> mepuq, You are stuck on this yes or no answer and not reading our responses clearly. ;)
[21:24] <Guest16740> Hello. Why on 64bit Ubuntu Desktop in VirtualBox, I've got only option to install 32bit Ubuntu?
[21:25] <Guest16740> (Only 32bit OSes to choose)
[21:25] <Ben64> Guest16740: where are you choosing?
[21:25] <bekks> Guest16740: Does your CPU support vt-x? If it doesnt, then 32bit guests are your only chance.
[21:25] <Guest16740> New ->
[21:26] <hem> holstein, take a look on the screenshot http://i.imgur.com/TdvL1gH.png
[21:26] <Guest16740> bekks: It's a CPU from 2005 I guess.
[21:26] <hem> 12.04 worked like a dream.
[21:27] <bekks> Guest16740: Can you pastebin "cat /proc/cpuinfo" please?
[21:27] <hem> Beldar, here you have http://i.imgur.com/TdvL1gH.png :).
[21:27] <bekks> !pastebin | Guest16740
[21:28] <hem> holstein, your suggestion did not work either.
[21:29] <jay__> hi
[21:30] <Guest16740> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7748770/
[21:31] <jay__> SO I'm a newb.  I"m trying to use apt-get install firmware-b43-installer. but it wants me to put a Xubuntu cd in for it? how can i make it grab from the repository?
[21:32] <jay__> btw. i don't have a Xubuntu cd of course
[21:33] <Beldar> jay__, Plug in the ethernet, or get a live dvd/usb
[21:33] <jay__> i have ethernet plugged in
[21:33] <k1l_> jay__: easiest way? go to the system settings and there to software and updates. then 2nd tab "other software" and de-select the first cd/dvd entry
[21:33] <Beldar> jay__, And no access to the web?
[21:34] <jay__> yes i have an internet connection on the pc i'm trying to work with through ethernet
[21:34] <Beldar> !broadcom | jay__ describes cd or net
[21:35] <jay__> muhahaha i'm trying what you said k1l_
[21:36] <jay__> dear k1l_ i will have your babies
[21:36] <jay__> i think it has worked
[21:37] <jay__> i just have to restart the pc to find out. i thought you didn't have to restart linux OSs that much?
[21:38] <Guest16740> bekks: output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo": http://paste.ubuntu.com/7748770/
[21:38] <usr13> jay__: Sometimes you do if it is a kernel module that does not load on the fly
[21:38] <jay__> hooray! it worked! i have wifi on the pc now :D
[21:38] <k1l_> jay__: restart is needed for new kernels
[21:38] <k1l_> !away > dfgas
[21:38] <jay__> how do you know if something is a kernel module?
[21:39] <usr13> jay__: Or, yes, as k1l_ says, if you install a new kernel.
[21:39] <usr13> jay__: lsmod
[21:39] <jay__> i mean when you go to install something
[21:39] <hem> no one?
[21:40] <usr13> jay__: It is usually pretty obvious.
[21:40] <splash> how to change window and start menu color in mint 17 cinnamon
[21:40] <usr13> !mint | splash
[21:40] <Beldar> !mint | splash
[21:41] <jay__> well not for me usr13 i'm a newb
[21:41] <jay__> how can a newb tell if he needs to restart?
[21:41] <rwd> jay__: if it pops up a message saying you need to restart, then you need to restart
[21:41] <rwd> otherwise you don't
[21:41] <apeoid> you've been at this for 2 days already jay__ you're an operator now
[21:41] <jay__> but this didn't rwd
[21:42] <jay__> lol operator? i've been upgraded!
[21:42] <Beldar> jay__, Leave out the muhaha and newb references it is not relevant please.
[21:42] <jay__> it is relevant Beldar. it let's people know i'm new and to explain things thoroughly to me
[21:42] <usr13> jay__: If you read some of the info about new driver modules, you kind of get the hint.
[21:43] <usr13> jay__: It is kind of like figuring out if someone you talk to on IRC is male or female, (you ask).
[21:43] <jay__> i just learned how to search for something with apt. i don't know how to read about a packages details yet
[21:43] <Beldar> jay__, I have been here daily for five years it does not help you in any way. Ask pertinent questions get to the issues, the cruft just makes it harder to help. ; )
[21:44] <apeoid> I have a small issue, but I think it might be broken.  When I go to Keyboard settings > shortcuts, I cannot change the command that is issued by one of the defaults.  Instead, I had to disable the ctrl-alt-t / launcher binding and add a custom
[21:44] <apeoid> should I be able to change what command is issued by Launch terminal command?
[21:44] <jay__> knowing how to talk to someone based on where their knowledge level is, is extremely important Beldar .  As a person how has had to do sales, it helps tremendously to not talk over someone's head
[21:44] <apeoid> I can ctrl-alt-t to xfce terminal fine, but will it bring up gnome terminal in other dialogs that launch terminal?
[21:45] <usr13> apeoid: Yes
[21:45] <Beldar> jay__, Your are assuming read this please. https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[21:45] <apeoid> usr13, when I click the list item "Launch terminal" it changes from Disabled to New Accelerator... but I can't get it to do anything else.
[21:45] <usr13> apeoid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[21:46] <apeoid> thank you
[21:47] <Guest16740> I prepared data for bekks, but He/She might be idle. Does anyone else know if it's possible to run 64bit OSes inside VirtualBox on this CPU: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7748770/ ?
[21:47] <usr13> apeoid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting
[21:48] <jakelee1298> croon hello
[21:48] <wolfy1339> how do i run a desktop for VNC on a server? specifically xfce
[21:48] <OerHeks> Guest16740, looks like no.
[21:48] <jakelee1298> hello world
[21:49] <Guest16740> OerHeks: which previous version of Ubuntu Server has got 32bit version?
[21:49] <usr13> wolfy1339: Depends on which server or client you use.
[21:49] <hem> Beldar, http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/22128/ubuntu-1304-libreoffice-menu-items-greyed-out/
[21:49] <jakelee1298> 12.02
[21:49] <hem> holstein, http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/22128/ubuntu-1304-libreoffice-menu-items-greyed-out/ . seems to be well known bug.
[21:49] <wolfy1339> usr13: i use ubuntu 14.04
[21:49] <OerHeks> Guest16740, any version is available in 32 bit
[21:49] <Beldar> hem, Have you gone back to the ubuntu repos version?
[21:50] <Guest16740> OerHeks: Also Server?
[21:50] <usr13> wolfy1339: rdesktop x11vnc tightvnc
[21:50] <jakelee1298> exit
[21:50] <usr13> wolfy1339: rdesktop is probably installed by default.
[21:50] <splash> I got IRC to auto join server but then how do I get it to auto join channel?
[21:51] <leilewis> yo jake
[21:51] <wolfy1339> tightvnc can't be found
[21:51] <Jake> hi leilewis ?
[21:51] <leilewis> loool
[21:51] <usr13> wolfy1339: tightvncconnect tightvncserver
[21:51] <OerHeks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/trusty/daily/current/
[21:52] <Beldar> hem, I run and have run multiple linux distros and windows and never seen this issue, so well known is not really an accurate proof, just words, and you have not used a release for the repos.
[21:52] <wolfy1339> it can't find tightvncconnect..
[21:52] <k1l_> Guest16740: http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-server-i386.iso
[21:52] <hem> Beldar, yes I am using the repo version.
[21:52]  * wolfy1339 is AFK will be back soon
[21:52] <usr13> wolfy1339: Probably because it is not installed.
[21:52] <k1l_> !away > wolfy1339
[21:53] <Beldar> hem, Go to /home/.config and delete the liberoffice folder with the app closed than reopen it.
[21:53] <hem> Beldar, are you really reading my message? I am using the repo version for 10 time. But I have tried others also (from libreoffice site, openoffice)etc.
[21:53] <hem> Beldar, done that with no luck.
[21:54] <wolfy1339> usr13: i'm trying to install that.
[21:54] <Guest16740> k1l_: Thank You. Started downloading. Interesting that on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server it is said that "64-bit only".
[21:54] <Beldar> hem, No I had you in ignore through most of this, it was a wasted conversation to be honest, so back you go. ;)
[21:55] <hem> Beldar, is this the way to help others? if you do not have the answer, then do not answer.
[21:55] <leilewis> helllo
[21:55] <leilewis> jake
[21:55] <leilewis> harris
[21:55] <jakelee1298> yoooooooo
[21:55] <leilewis> harris
[21:55] <jakelee1298> dont say surename here
[21:55] <leilewis> ok
[21:55] <Guest16740> OerHeks: Thank You.
[21:55] <leilewis> of course
[21:55] <usr13> wolfy1339: But rdesktop is probably installed already, (by default).
[21:55] <Jake> leilewis, please stop pinging me
[21:56] <jakelee1298> who wants free blowjob
[21:56] <usr13> wolfy1339: There is also x11vnc (server)
[21:56] <usr13> !info x11vnc | wolfy1339
[21:56] <wolfy1339> i already have that
[21:56] <usr13> ok
[21:57] <wolfy1339> installing rdesktop
[22:02] <qballer> Hey Guys, can anyone help with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/491719/graphics-hdmi-driver-not-defined ?
[22:07] <usr13> qballer: Did you install kubuntu-desktop ?
[22:07] <qballer> it's the distro of kubuntu ... the actual os usr13
[22:08] <usr13> qballer: So, you installed kubuntu from scratch?
[22:08] <qballer> usr13: yep
[22:08] <qballer> 14.04
[22:08] <usr13> qballer: Just to get the KDE Desktop?
[22:08] <qballer> performance wise it works better.
[22:09] <usr13> qballer: Well, ok.  But for FYI (and future reference), you can just install [package] kubuntu-desktop
[22:09] <usr13> !info kubuntu-desktop | qballer
[22:09] <qballer> I did that first usr13, that how i tested kde
[22:10] <usr13> qballer: So before that, you had regular Ubuntu?  (With Unity)?
[22:10] <qballer> still something wasn't smoth. It was better than unity but would slow down a bit. this is far better.
[22:10] <qballer> Yes
[22:11] <qballer> Which was slow...
[22:11] <qballer> terminal was fine but the UI would sometimes kill me.
[22:11] <qballer> so any ideas on point?
[22:11] <usr13> qballer: "kill me"?
[22:12] <usr13> qballer: I suppose you could install [package] ubuntu-desktop
[22:12] <qballer> it's a figure of speech from where I'm from which was poorly translated.
[22:12]  * ubuntu___ 
[22:12] <qballer> Why? I don't want unity.
[22:12] <usr13> qballer: So what package do you need?
[22:13] <usr13> qballer: Or what package do you *think* you need?
[22:13] <qballer> I need the HDMI video card to work AKA intel graphics
[22:13] <RudyValencia> Hi, how do I upgrade the Linux kernel if /boot (on a separate partition) is full?
[22:13] <usr13> qballer: (Because I don't know.) (It is obviously something you had before but not now.) (so.....)
[22:13] <RudyValencia> (it has about 5-6 other versions of the kernel)
[22:13] <k1l_> qballer: the hdmi stuff is not related to the desktop you run
[22:13] <Beldar> RudyValencia, clean out extra kernels
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> RudyValencia  remove obsolete kernels
[22:14] <qballer> no common way to troubleshoot?
[22:14] <dbb> if /boot is full you have other probels ;-)
[22:14] <usr13> qballer: Maybe it is compiz
[22:14] <RudyValencia> Not sure how to remove the old kernels?
[22:14] <qballer> k1l_: I know, it'
[22:14] <k1l_> RudyValencia: remove old linux kernel packages
[22:14] <k1l_> RudyValencia: see what linux kernels you got installed and remove some of them
[22:14] <qballer> k1l_: I know, it's a driver thing probably. But what changed. It worked by default last time. This is the same OS with different flavor.
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> RudyValencia  synaptic and a few 3rd party tools can do that
[22:15] <RudyValencia> this is a textmode server
[22:15] <k1l_> qballer: same exact ubuntu version?
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> RudyValencia  there's also #ubuntu-server
[22:15] <qballer> k1l_: 14.04 in both.
[22:15] <JSnewbie> Hi
[22:15] <k1l_> RudyValencia: dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[22:16] <qballer> k1l_: one os kubuntu (not working ) the other ubuntu
[22:16] <Oxid> hi
[22:16] <usr13> !info ubuntu-drivers-common | qballer
[22:16] <utzouyfsi>   I get an error  when i run " lb build  ",  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7748923/ how to fix it ??
[22:16] <Oxid> :)
[22:16] <k1l_> RudyValencia: the one with "ii" are installed
[22:16] <JSnewbie> I need some help about linux setup
[22:16] <RudyValencia> OK I got it
[22:16] <usr13> JSnewbie: What is your question?
[22:16] <RudyValencia> Removing all the older kernels helped, thanks
[22:17] <JSnewbie> I try to configure a vhost in linux centos...
[22:17] <utzouyfsi> ??????
[22:17] <JSnewbie> but I need to access to the IP with a server alias
[22:17] <qballer> usr13: it's on latest. k1l_, any ideas?
[22:17] <k1l_> JSnewbie: well, ask the centos support?
[22:17] <usr13> !centos | JSnewbie
[22:17] <bekks> JSnewbie: Then you'd better ask in a centos channel.
[22:17] <Beldar> !patience | utzouyfsi no????? please
[22:18] <Oxid> last time i chat on irc i was 14 :P
[22:18] <usr13> qballer: I'm pretty sure I've given all the info I have.
[22:18] <jay__> Oxid, aside from two weeks ago, me too
[22:18] <qballer> usr13: thanks.
[22:18] <qballer> anyone else wanna step in ?
[22:19] <Beldar> Oxid, This is support not chat, address support if needed.
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> utzouyfsi  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[22:19] <Oxid> ok
 Kali GNU/Linux 1.0.7 \n \l
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> utzouyfsi  Kali is not supported here
 I had this problem before in ubuntu thats why i moved to debian , I already asked the question kali chan ,
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> utzouyfsi  yes, then wait for their answer
 I am trying to create a custom linux distro
[22:23] <k1l_> kali doesnt even base on ubuntu. so this is totally the wrong channel in here. ask in ##linux if you dont know where to ask
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> utzouyfsi  this is not the right place for you
[22:23] <jay__> it took me waaaay to long to realize my internet wasn't connected. i would like to uninstall gnome and keep using xfce for now. how do i completely remove gnome? with apt
[22:23] <ink> quit
[22:23] <jay__> sudo apt-get autoremove gnome?
[22:24] <usr13> jay__: Yep
[22:24] <jay__> sweet i'll try it now :)
[22:25] <A_Zman705> hi all
[22:25] <A_Zman705> i need some help please, but i clueless
[22:25] <A_Zman705> trying to get a game to work but it wont
[22:26] <A_Zman705> giving Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0". why would this be
[22:26] <A_Zman705> that of course is running glxinfo
[22:27] <alanna> ola
[22:27] <A_Zman705> hi
[22:27] <usr13> A_Zman705: exprot DISPLAY=:0.0
[22:27] <A_Zman705> huh?
[22:27] <A_Zman705> whats whisper command
[22:28] <alanna> alguem do brasil ai
[22:28] <k1l_> !br | alanna
[22:29] <alanna> #ubuntu-br
[22:29] <usr13> alanna: /join #ubuntu-br
[22:29] <Oxid> how i can see the devices that are connected to the pc, on gnome interface ?
[22:29] <usr13> Oxid: lspci
[22:30] <usr13> Oxid: lsusb
[22:30] <OerHeks> Oxid, lshw or lsusb or lspci or lscpu
[22:30] <Beldar> Oxid, lsusb if usb
[22:30] <A_Zman705> im using nvidia nv5
[22:31] <OerHeks> A_Zman705, and what game ?
[22:34] <administrator> im a 18 y/o female looking for some fun, kik me @limedemon
[22:35] <jay__> usr13, it worked man!
[22:35] <jay__> thanks a lot
[22:36] <A_Zman705> how can you find out what display driver you using
[22:37] <apeoid> A_Zman705, http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system
[22:38] <apeoid> sudo lshw -c video
[22:39] <adymitruk> anyone know of compatibility issues with the new Asus NX500
[22:39] <apeoid> how do I upgrade to this new package from: http://gdal.org/
[22:40] <adymitruk> ?
[22:44] <apeoid> ok here's my story.  I am trying to get the latest GDAL from gdal.org... and I have version 1.10.1 installed.  This is from their stable PPA.  The one I need is from the unstable ppa.  Now, I've added the unstable PPA to the list.  How do I upgrade the package?
[22:45] <apeoid> just apt-get again?
[22:45] <bekks> apeoid: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; should do the job
[22:46] <apeoid> ah you are right.  now we're installing all the unstable releases.
[22:49] <Oxid> any idea what is this Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge ?
[22:51] <wizbit> how can i power off a usb port in ubuntu trusty?
[22:54] <golionz> яЭзеÒüÜÜÜÜÜ
[22:54] <golionz> Ü
[22:54] <golionz>       
[22:55] <golionz> Wrong channel D:
[22:59] <basketball> how can i have my computer turn off at midnight and 7 am  and turn on at 6 am and 2:20 pm
[23:04] <mmoebius> basketbal: Turning of: be root, edit crontab with 'crontab -e' , set command (with full path!) to the 'poweroff' binary
[23:06] <krang> Hey all, I have an external monitor plugged into my laptop, but I can't stop it panning around the virtual screen when I move the mouse. How would I do that?
[23:07] <SeanChiarot> wondering if I can get a hand with a sharing issue using Samba4, I have the share setup, I can see all the files without needing to login (I want this) but I can't launch any of the files.  any ideas?
[23:08] <Oxid> how can use the wifi and the gsm modem to speed up the internet conection ?
[23:10] <daftykins> Oxid: that would be a waste of time
[23:12] <Oxid> why ?
[23:12] <daftykins> it just is.
[23:13] <adymitruk> anyone know of compatibility issues with the new Asus NX500
[23:13] <daftykins> you might wanna tell us what that is, adymitruk
[23:14] <Oxid> but how can i replay like you do ?
[23:14] <adymitruk> it's a loptop
[23:14] <adymitruk> errr laptop
[23:14] <daftykins> adymitruk: nobody in here's gonna know then, you should look it up
[23:14] <adymitruk> where?
[23:15] <daftykins> adymitruk: online in general
[23:16] <adymitruk> nope. not ubuntu compatibility
[23:16] <Oxid> aha
[23:16] <daftykins> adymitruk: what?
[23:18] <adymitruk> anyone know of compatibility issues with the new Asus NX500?
[23:19] <daftykins> adymitruk: please stop asking, the likelihood that someone else owns one is near zero
[23:20] <daftykins> adymitruk: if you really want an answer, at least link to a fully detailed spec list
[23:20] <adymitruk> trying to find that right now
[23:20] <cesurasean1> what files do i need to setup ubuntu as an pxe?
[23:22] <OerHeks> adymitruk, do you own a NX500?
[23:22] <OerHeks> adymitruk, as it is not for sale yet, nobody can tell
[23:22] <cesurasean1> are these the newest pxe images
[23:23] <cesurasean1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[23:27] <Booter> hi
[23:32] <adymitruk> OerHeks: thanks.. I thought someone might have seen a better spec list than what I've seen so far
[23:33] <OerHeks> adymitruk, the hp envy is looking good, also haswel-ult http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201405-15023/components/
[23:45] <DANtheBEASTman> Hi, I have a b43 wireless chip, and for some reason I can't get it working on 1404
[23:46] <DANtheBEASTman> I installed firmware-b43-installer, but when I try to run `sudo modprobe b43` it just hands
[23:46] <DANtheBEASTman> s/hands/hangs
[23:47] <mikeg3> !fsck
[23:49] <daftykins> DANtheBEASTman: had you tried looking through the hardware drivers menu instead of jumping straight to manual?
[23:50] <DANtheBEASTman> daftykins: ...no.. you mean the additional drivers menu thing? it says no available drivers
[23:51] <acovrig> What is a safe way to speed up the entropy generation on a headless machine?
[23:52] <daftykins> DANtheBEASTman: ah ok, just checking. i assume you've been shown appropriate links?
[23:54] <basketball> how do i run the terminal command plank -n dock2& at startup
[23:55] <daftykins> basketball: http://askubuntu.com/questions/814/how-to-run-scripts-on-start-up
[23:57] <basketball> what do i do
[23:59] <acovrig> Is there any way to cat /dev/urandom from a few machines and pip it into dd on 1 machine?