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xubuntu743Does anyone know how to sign a key once it has been imported on 14.04?07:13
xubuntu743LOL! I thought all us computer geeks stayed up all night!07:14
elfyless jittery than some though - so manage to stay in one place for longer07:18
Andrzejsomebody can tell my, why when I use static ip i don't have internet ?07:27
knomemaybe your router doesn't support that ip (range)07:29
knomeor if you are not behind a router, your ISP most probably doesn't support static ip's07:30
knome(unless they specifically do, and if it's like that, you shouldn't have working internet *if* you don't have a static ip)07:30
Andrzejknome: my router support that ip. when i give it for windows it's ok, but when i give it for xubuntu i don;t have internet :(07:34
reytCan anyone help me out with a problem?09:01
poeticrpm!ask09:06
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:06
baizonpoeticrpm: hes already gone09:06
baizonhe waited 1 min :(09:06
poeticrpmbaizon, ahh missed it09:06
poeticrpmyeah wtf? The channel isnt a concierge service09:07
KihokkiNow it is09:08
poeticrpmnot sure I follow, but ok :)09:09
Guido1hello, i need some help installing my printer on a 64 bit xubuntu laptop. to install the driver i first have to onstall "ia32-libs or lib32stdc++", but both pakages are not found and sudo apt-get install package-name:i386 also doesn work09:54
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skribblezatchagood morning.11:47
kc1dihello all11:59
PinFloydhi11:59
kc1dihow do you disable touch pad in xubuntu?13:16
deshipukc1di: in settings13:18
deshipukc1di: 'mouse & touchpad'13:18
deshipukc1di: the 'enable this device' checkbox13:18
kc1dithanks for some reason I could not find it at first :?)13:19
sdollinsAnyone have any suggestions for must-have grandma apps? :D15:02
cfhowlettsdollins depends on the gramma, doesn't it?15:02
sdollinsmaybe!15:03
sdollinsI am forcing mine away from Windows XP.15:03
sdollinsThunderbird and Firefox are what she already uses15:03
sdollinswhich is primarily what she does on computer anyways so that's fine.15:03
sdollinsI installed Skype but I'm not sure what else she'd possibly need.15:03
cfhowlettsdollins give her the linux alternatives to her XP apps15:03
sdollinsI don't think she uses any beyond Firefox/Thunderbird.15:04
cfhowlettsdollins xubuntu-restricted-extras15:04
sdollinsI installed VLC15:04
sdollinsand flash15:04
geniiToo bad no one's packaged this yet:  http://kpg.sourceforge.net/15:05
holsteinlook and feel will be most important..15:06
cfhowlettsdollins hey, if you still have XP, grab the desktop wallpapers!15:06
sdollinsI think greybird is pretty enough for her. She's always used the grey theme on XP.15:07
sdollinsI just moved the panel to the bottom and named the menu "start" ;D15:07
ryan__any way to add a menu bar to the xubuntu panel?15:29
ryan__similar to unity15:29
holsteinryan__: yes15:30
ryan__ok15:30
ryan__what do i install15:31
holsteinan easy way is, an xfce panel with a transparent background.. but, its not "managed" the same, though, it looks similar.. there are also many docks.. plank, docky, AWN, wbar. but, the xfce panel option requires no install, and has no additional overhead15:31
holsteinryan__: ^15:31
ryan__that doesnt sound like it adds the windows menu bar to the panel15:32
ryan__that just sounds like,.15:32
ryan__a transparent panel15:32
xanguaryan__: you mean global menu¿ no15:32
ryan__yeah15:32
ryan__global menu15:33
holsteinryan__: thats is unity dock like15:33
holsteinryan__: otherwise, just right click and add the normal menu, not the wisker menu..15:33
ryan__no15:33
ryan__the menu bar15:33
ryan__with file view server settings15:33
ryan__that sort of stuff15:33
ryan__how do i put that in the panel15:33
holsteinryan__: file view server settigns?15:34
ryan__the bar at the top of windows15:34
holsteinryan__: what windows?15:34
GridCuberyan__, you mean to have the menu options detached from the windows into a panel?15:34
ryan__yes15:34
holsteinthe menu bar at the top of windows?15:34
holsteinmaximus used to do that..15:34
holstein!info maximus15:35
ubottumaximus (source: maximus): Automaximizing window management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.14-3 (trusty), package size 19 kB, installed size 97 kB15:35
ryan__no15:35
ryan__ugh15:35
ryan__holstein, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menu_bar15:35
ryan__that15:35
holsteinryan__: i understand you are finding this frustrating.. but, there is no easy way to make xfce emulate unity15:35
ryan__i just want the menu bar15:35
ryan__in the panel15:35
GridCuberyan__, there was an applet for the panel that did that ages ago15:36
holsteinryan__: have you tried the "maximus" option? that used to be in the netbook remix and did what you are asking about15:36
GridCubei don't think it works anymore15:36
holsteinryan__: maximus addressed that functionality for the netbook remix15:36
ryan__maximus just hides window decorations15:37
holsteinryan__: it used to specifically address pulling the menu into the panel as you are asking15:37
GridCuberyan__, some people report that compiling this https://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/ for xfce does the trick, some report it does not15:38
baizonryan__: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-windowck-plugin15:40
baizonGridCube: it isnt working anymore15:41
GridCubewelp15:41
ryan__baizon, that looks neat15:41
baizonim using it, every app works, no problems :)15:42
ryan__how do i install it15:42
baizoncompile it15:43
baizonor install the deb15:43
sdollinsDocky :D15:43
sdollinsit still exists?15:43
ryan__i think plan15:43
ryan__meh15:43
ryan__im surprised no-ones ported whatever unity uses for menubars to other DEs15:44
xanguakde has had global meno for years15:44
baizonryan__: because its gtk315:44
baizonno one else uses it :>15:44
ryan__gnome does!15:44
xanguaeven before kde415:45
baizongnome3 doesnt use appmenu at all15:45
baizonxfce / lxde are using gtk215:45
ryan__that sucks15:45
holsteini dont think its necessarily a goal of xfce to provide that workflow, but rather a more traditional alternative..15:46
arviceblotHi, I'm running xubuntu 14.04 on a laptop with a touchpad and a touchscreen. Is there a way I can enable scrolling on the touchscreen? I don't see it as an option in the device settings.16:05
GridCubearviceblot, i don't think there is16:09
GridCubeat least i've never seen that option on my netbook16:10
arviceblotdang, that's too bad16:16
GridCubearviceblot, some programs have gesture addons16:25
GridCubelike firefox and chrome16:25
GridCubethat you can install and enable things like scrolling and such16:26
ddsss_this is driving me nuts. If I turn monitor power off and on again - my desktop doesn't come back again. I have to Ctrl+Alt+F1 and "sudo service lightdm restart"... Does anyone know why is this happening?16:42
ddsss_^it only began happening after 14.04 install...16:43
baizonddsss_: yes its a bug16:47
baizonddsss_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/130373616:47
ubottuUbuntu bug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager "[SRU] Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [Undecided,New]16:47
ddsss_baizon, that's a relieve. I thought I was going crazy. pluggin unplugig, replacing hdmi cables.16:52
GridCubeddsss_, as pointed in several posts in that bugreport the fastest workaround is having a keybind that executes an "xrandr -s ###x####" to reset the screen17:08
adymitrukthe googling does nothing and I'm wondering why new applications that I install are not showing up in the application finder..17:10
adymitrukI'm fairly new to xubuntu but familiar with ubuntu17:10
holsteinadymitruk: what application?17:12
adymitrukintellij idea ce17:14
adymitrukbut it happened for others too like evolution17:14
GridCubeadymitruk, did you search for the apps in the wishkers menu ?17:22
GridCubeor in the appfinder application?17:22
adymitrukanother one is hipchat17:23
adymitrukthey show up in the application menu17:23
adymitrukbut not with the alt-f217:23
adymitrukany ideas?17:28
ddsss_GridCube, what are pound signs mean?17:28
GridCubeddsss_, the screen resolution, like 1600x900 or whathevs17:29
ddsss_GridCube, so if mine is 1920x1080: xrandr -s 1920x108017:29
ddsss_GridCube, trying it...17:30
GridCubeddsss_, if you just type xrandr you will get a list of the available resolutions17:30
GridCubethe one you are currently using will be marked by an asterisk17:31
ddsss_GridCube, nope17:31
GridCubethe screen did not light up?17:32
ddsss_GridCube, nope17:32
GridCubedid you bind that to a key combo or you just sent it from a terminal?17:33
ddsss_GridCube, I went into keyboard-> application shortcuts and bout xrandr -s 1920x1080 to Ctrl+Alt+r17:33
ddsss_ /bout/bound/s17:34
GridCubesounds about right17:34
ddsss_GridCube, i don't think restart was needed17:35
ddsss_gonna try it again. toggling screen17:35
ddsss_nope17:36
ddsss_no idea17:37
ddsss_GridCube, maybe "xrandr --auto" ?17:38
ddsss_trying xrandr --auto17:38
ddsss_GridCube, I'll be damn - xrandr --auto fixed it...17:39
GridCube:)17:39
GridCubeglad to hear that17:39
ddsss_GridCube, hmm. wait-  why after xrandr --auto xchat lost it's gtk styling....17:39
ddsss_GridCube, :)17:40
GridCubemmm try again the --set17:40
ddsss_GridCube, so xrandr --auto --set ?17:41
GridCubeno no17:41
GridCube--set 1920x108017:41
GridCubeno auto17:41
factotumhello all, my question is what is the default gkt/metacity theme for xubuntu 14.10 and can they be used with Mate?17:42
ddsss_^ it says: xrandr: --set must be used after --output17:42
bazhang14.10?17:42
factotumyes 14.10, sorry havent had any caffiene yet17:42
bazhangthats not released yet17:43
factotumer 14.0417:43
GridCubeyes, sorry, its xrandr --output YOUROUTPUT --set 1920x1080 , ddsss_17:43
factotumduh, wow, really sorry17:43
GridCubeyou can know your output name from just typing xrandr as well17:43
GridCubein my case it says "VBOX0 connected 1600x900+0+0 0mm x 0mm"17:44
ddsss_so GridCube HDMI1 ?17:44
GridCubeyep17:44
ddsss_ xrandr --output HDMI1 --set 1920x1080 -> trying17:44
ddsss_GridCube, ahh no. xrandr: --set requires two arguments17:45
GridCubegood earth, sorry17:46
GridCubeddsss_, type man xrandr17:47
ddsss_GridCube, but anyways. it doesn't matter. it seems like only xchat lost styling after xrandr --auto.17:47
ddsss_GridCube, I can live with that:)17:47
ddsss_GridCube, thanks!17:47
GridCubeddsss_, remember that the issue should be fixed in the near future anyway by the update17:48
factotumbleh, think I'll just go back to xfce17:50
factotumoh, and figured it out, it's greybird, whoo-hoo17:51
adymitrukthe googling does nothing and I'm wondering why new applications that I install are not showing up in the application finder..18:37
holsteinadymitruk: i understand.. what menu? and what application specifically?18:37
adymitrukevolution in alt-f218:38
adymitrukanother one is intellij18:38
holsteinadymitruk: so, where are they not "showing up"? alt f2? or some menu?18:38
holsteinyou can use tab to autocomplete application names like that..18:39
holstein!tab18:39
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.18:39
holsteinyou can look for them in the terminal..18:39
holstein!info intellij18:39
ubottuPackage intellij does not exist in trusty18:39
adymitrukthey show up in the regular application menu. Hitting alt-f2 is like hitting windows key in ubuntu18:39
adymitrukexcept these apps show up in ubuntu18:39
adymitrukholstein: ^^^18:40
holsteinadymitruk: looks like intellij is a java application18:40
holsteinadymitruk: alt+f2 is not like hitting the windows key in ubuntu18:40
adymitrukwhy should it make a difference? Aren't all these launched through the desktop file?18:40
adymitrukok.. so what's the difference?18:41
adymitrukwhy do some apps show up there and others don't?18:41
holsteinthe super key in ubuntu is offering more of a search function.. you can try something like kupfer18:41
adymitrukeven chrome doesn't18:41
holsteinadymitruk: google-chrome will in alt+f218:41
holsteinadymitruk: you can use tab to autocomplete.. just like in the terminal.. alt+f2 is not a list, or a search.. its like a shortcut to launch a command18:42
adymitrukso I would think that "application finder" would find applications that I installed via the proper methods18:42
holsteinadymitruk: you are asking to find more than just applications, thats why i suggested kupfer.. did you try it?18:42
adymitruknope.. it tabs to the buttons18:42
holstein!tab18:42
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.18:42
adymitrukis intellij and evolution not an application?18:42
GridCubeadymitruk, in a terminal?18:42
adymitrukGridCube: no. in alt-f2 dialog18:43
GridCubetry the autocomplete on a terminal18:43
holsteinadymitruk: as with google-chrome, you are likely not referring to it properly18:43
holsteinadymitruk: please try kupfer18:43
adymitrukholstein: so is alt-f2 broken?18:43
adymitrukI figured this is out-of-the-box functionality. I guess not18:44
holsteinadymitruk: no.. if you refer to "chome" as "chrome" in alt+f2, it wont run "google-chrome".. thats not breakage18:44
holsteinadymitruk: you are asking for java apps to be linked.. and expecting the unity search lense function from alt+f218:45
holsteinadymitruk: have you tried kupfer?18:45
adymitrukholstein: no I'm not18:45
adymitrukI read "application finder" and it does not find applications18:45
holsteinadymitruk: if you are pressing "alt+f2" and expecting a search, thats not what it does18:45
adymitrukso what's the text box for?18:46
holsteinalt+f2 is not an application finder.. though, kupfer is handy for finding many things.. have you tried it?18:46
holsteinadymitruk: alt+f2 is for specifically running a command.. you can run "google-chrome" there, for example.. though, "chome" will not do anything18:46
adymitrukholstein: I'm not installing more software for what I expect to be basic functionality out of a distro18:46
holsteinadymitruk: its quite small, and does what i think you are looking for18:47
holsteinadymitruk: there is no "unity  lense" type functionality like that in xfce..18:47
adymitruktyping "a" forexample find abiword18:47
holsteinsure.. and typiing "g" will suggest google-chrome18:48
adymitrukyou would expect other applications to be suggested as you write out the rest of the names18:48
holsteinbut, youe have to know that "google-chrome" is for chrome, and not "chrome". its not a finder like that. its just to run a command18:48
holsteinyou can learn to start all of the things you are trying to start by using the terminal or alt+f2.. but, if you want search, try soemthing that provides search18:49
adymitruksure.. so why is intellij not coming up.. and why does it matter if it's written in java? what if it was natively compiled C or python or whatever?18:49
holsteinadymitruk: where did you get it?18:49
adymitrukI just want to launch an application not search for one. I'm familiar with what I installed via recommended means.18:50
adymitrukI expect that application to come up18:50
holsteinsure.. and you can launch that application as the creators intend18:50
holsteinusing whatever command they intend.. and you cancreate a command that you can have in your path or whatever you like18:51
adymitrukI got intellij from where I got evolution18:51
adymitrukone comes up and the other one doesn't18:52
adymitrukholstein: ^^^18:52
holsteinadymitruk: so, sudo apt-get intellij ? or the software center? im not finding it in the default sources..18:52
adymitruksoftware centre18:53
holsteinadymitruk: ok18:53
holsteinadymitruk: i assure you, whatever command it takes to run the software can be used in alt+f218:53
holsteinadymitruk: its not a search though..18:53
adymitrukso typing "i" doesn't show it18:55
adymitrukand I know it's not a search18:55
adymitrukyou already said that18:56
adymitrukI still expect to launch desktop applications through desktop launchers18:56
holsteinadymitruk: sure. you cant expect to type "i" in alt-f2, just like "chrome" wont autocomplete "google-chrome" there18:56
adymitrukI know that18:56
holsteinadymitruk: alt+f2 is *not* a desktop launcher, though18:56
adymitrukI see that typing g does solve the issue18:56
adymitruknothing solves the issue for intellij18:57
adymitrukit's an application finder that seems to launch applications as well, if you want to split hairs18:57
holsteinits only meant to help faciliate lanuching a command.. if you determine what is needed to start intellij, you can use that command with alt+f218:57
adymitrukwhat am I not making clear to you?18:57
holsteinadymitruk: its not meant to launch applications either.. its meant to give you quick access to run a command18:57
holsteinadymitruk: i feel it is me not being clear18:58
adymitrukwhy is it called "application finder"?18:58
holsteinadymitruk: you came here, expecting "chrome" to run chrome in alt+f2.. now you see that "google-chrome" is needed.. that will be the same for intellij.. the command "intellij" obvisoulsy is not what lanuches it.. but when you determine what command is needed, you can use alt+f218:59
holsteinbut, alt+f2 is not "intelligent" on that level to search and suggest18:59
GridCubeholstein, however it is18:59
GridCubeif you click the down arrow it becomes from a launcher into a searcher18:59
holsteinthere you go ^19:00
holsteinthats what i use kupfer for19:00
holsteinbecause it searches whatever sources i choose19:00
adymitrukI don't care about kupfer19:00
adymitrukI care about xubuntu19:00
GridCubeadymitruk, press the down arrow in the appfinder and try the search again19:00
adymitrukGridCube: yes. it finds it then19:01
holsteinadymitruk: i use kupfer *in* xubuntu is what im saying..19:01
adymitrukI should not have to look outside of the distribution to launch applications. That's ridiculous.19:02
holsteinadymitruk: sure.. enjoy!19:02
holsteinadymitruk: seems like you found the answer with the default packages19:02
GridCubesorry adymitruk i sometimes forget that people wont do the same as i do and i assumed you where already using the launcher as finder19:04
adymitrukthanks GridCube19:10
bah_hi all, I have accidentally removed the list with network connections from the top panel, how to enable it again ?19:25
bah_(I mean the drop  menu with two arrows )19:26
bah_I can't find it in the "add new items" list in the panel settings19:28
bah_sorry, something come up... have to leave!    sorry for asking and not being able to wait for reply19:30
bazhangcome back when you have time then bah_19:31
bazhangwe never sleep19:32
xubuntu442Hello?23:19
slickymaster!hi | xubuntu44223:20
ubottuxubuntu442: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!23:20
xubuntu442I cant seem to be able to write any other characters than just normal letters anyone know wheat i have to change?23:20
ObrienDaveyou probably need to find the proper code for non-standard characters23:27
xubuntu442Proper code? as in Alt pluss NumPad number?23:28
ObrienDaveyes23:28
crimsonduskor use a different keyboard layout23:29
xubuntu442just tried this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration23:33
xubuntu442And it didnt work23:33
xubuntu442http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171032523:33
xubuntu442That was what i was suposed to paste :P23:33
ObrienDavewhich keyboard did you choose? which one do you have?23:50

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