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=== LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away
HypothesisFroghi. My screen just hangs after I log in .. the panel never appears.03:07
HypothesisFroglubuntu 14.0403:07
sydneyHypothesisFrog: Can you log out? ctrl-alt-del i think?03:12
holsteinHypothesisFrog: do you see the normal desktop as the guest user?03:15
sydneyholstein: Hi :D03:16
holsteino/03:16
sydney:D03:17
HypothesisFrogholstein good q03:19
HypothesisFrogbbiab03:19
HypothesisFrogsydney well I press the power button and it shuts down normally. Can get into shell by going ctrl-alt-F2 as well.03:20
HypothesisFrogre bbiab03:20
sydneyHypothesisFrog: So,can you right click,or open terminal?03:21
sydney...03:25
sydneyHypothesisFrog: are you there?03:30
sydneybye!!03:35
pvt_peteyhello12:01
pvt_peteyI'm tying to install lubuntu on a mac without functioning usb/disc drive12:02
pvt_peteyi thought to maybe use virtual box as a lifeboat12:02
pvt_peteyis this the best way ?12:02
dj_beiruti am using a windows machine and i want to ssh to my lubuntu machine with x dispaly. how can i do that? i am new to linux :/18:55
holstein!puty18:55
holstein!putty18:55
ubottuPuTTY is an !SSH client for Windows. Please see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage and downloads. See also !scp (Secure CoPy)18:55
dj_beiruti am using putty18:55
holsteindj_beirut: ^ thats what i use to ssh from windows to ssh servers..18:55
dj_beiruti can ssh to it. but i want to see the screen on my windows machine. using the lubuntu as almost a headless server18:56
holsteinyou can forward x over ssh.. or use many screen sharing options.. vnc, etc.. if you are "new", try teamviewer18:56
mikubuntucan anyone tell me why i would download the .iso image which says its 683 mb, but when i try to burn to a 700 mb disk it says the image is 716 mb, and so produces errors in burn?19:19
wxlmikubuntu: download error? did you check the md5?19:24
mikubuntuwxl -- i been fighting with it so long i want to try something else --- can i install unetbootin to a live cd session and install from net?19:25
wxlmikubuntu: i guess you could, but if it's a simple download error (which the md5 will tell you in a heartbeat), you can just install zsync and you won't even have to download the whole thing again19:26
mikubuntuwxl: could you help me with that?19:27
wxl!md5 | mikubuntu19:27
ubottumikubuntu: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows19:27
wxl!zsync | mikubuntu19:27
ubottumikubuntu: Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage19:27
mikubuntui'll check it out -- i don't think the image is bad because i used the same one to load this machine im chatting on19:28
wxlmikubuntu: might have been the burn. you can check that like above to find out how to md5sum the cd or usb.19:29
mikubuntuthe zsync page that someone directed me to is not clear to me -- am i to understand that if i terminal:   zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync that it will correct any anomolies in 14.04 ??20:30
mikubuntumy 4th install attempt on the other machine seems to be stuck at 'configuring apt' in the install part of the program20:32
phillwmikubuntu: at the end of the zsync, it will report back if there is a mis match in checksum.20:35
phillwonce you have a good image, burn it at the slowest speed possible. Then when you 1st boot with it, run the self test to check it has burned correctly.20:36
mikubuntuphillw: output: failed on url http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync could not read control file from URL20:37
phillwmikubuntu: did you install zsync on your machine?>20:38
mikubuntuyes, according to instruction on the zsych page20:38
SonikkuAmericaYou may need to -o your file and use the standard Ubuntu image at releases.u.c20:39
phillwif you did, then go to the directory that has the iso file and check that you 'own' it.20:39
phillwand issue the command20:40
phillwzsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20140705/trusty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync20:40
mikubuntumy problem is that even tho the file says its 683 mb, when i go to burn to a cd it says its 716 mb and apparently can only burn 95% of the image ... i tried loading with the dvd that i used on this machine and it fails multiple times (right now stuck for 30 mins at 'configuring apt' ... the bios will not let me boot from usb either20:41
phillwmikubuntu: try grabbing the alpha1 (I'll just get the link)20:43
phillwmikubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/alpha-1/20:44
phillwif you are still getting over-size errors, grab the alternate , it is some 100 Mb smaller20:45
mikubuntuhmmmm ... is a cd-r re-recordable?20:46
SonikkuAmericaNope...20:47
SonikkuAmericaCD-RW is though20:47
mikubuntugreat -- guess i have to go out and find somewhere to lift a new cd then .... arrrrrrgh ... maybe kelly has one20:49
phillwI have a dvd-rw that I use, it forces my burner to burn really slow and can handle over-sized images. mine was 1 GBP from a discount store.20:52
wxlmikubuntu: you don't have a usb?20:54
SonikkuAmericaphillw: A quid?20:56
SonikkuAmericaOh my20:56
phillwSonikkuAmerica: yup.20:56
phillwpoundland :)20:57
SonikkuAmericaJeremy Clarkson got a car for use in one iaode of Top Gear for £120:58
SonikkuAmericas/iaode/episode/20:58
phillwmikubuntu: also, if the site for ISO's is busy, head over to my mirror at http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/ in your case the command would be20:59
phillwzsync http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.zsync20:59
wxlSonikkuAmerica: good form. phillw usually forgets the ending slash. :)21:01
SonikkuAmericaSo do I21:01
SonikkuAmerica(Normally)21:02
mikubuntuphillw: sry mssd ur messages was on the phone begging a blank cd it should be here in 10 mins and i'll try the alt installer, its 5pm here and i started messing with this at 9am .... arghh21:03
wxltsk tsk tsk21:03
mikubuntuwxl: yes i have a usb, but the box won't let me assign it for boot21:04
phillwmikubuntu: in that case...21:05
phillwcp lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso lubuntu-14.04-alternat-i386.iso21:05
phillwfollowed by21:05
phillwzsync http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-i386.iso.zsync21:05
phillwit will save having to download the entire iso again.21:06
mikubuntubut the target machine won't let me do anything in live mode either, so i think i have to dl the alt anyways its only 8 mins21:07
SonikkuAmerica"alternat" should have an e at the end. Case and spelling are important.21:07
mikubuntuprolly less for the alt is only about 600 mb looks like21:08
phillwmikubuntu: okies... use my mirror, it is often faster than the main server :)21:08
mikubuntualready bookmarked your site, but the alt dl is done, just waiting for the blank cd to arrive21:09
phillwSonikkuAmerica: he he... yeah, I must put my new keyboard into piglet (existing one has no 'E' key.21:11
SonikkuAmericaI once had a word processor where S wouldn't work for a while... Poor Jeica...21:12
SonikkuAmericaAnd amuel too21:12
phillwI've got fairly used to it, but sometimes it does not work :)21:13
=== LarrySteeze|Away is now known as LarrySteeze
mikubuntui don't get it --- never had this much trouble doing an install -- i think for the first time ever in my experience, xfburn got to about 59% and then returned a 'burn fail' notice21:53
mikubuntuphillw: looking for the alternate installer 14.04 on your site but can't find it21:58
phillwmikubuntu: zsync http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-i386.iso.zsync21:58
mikubuntuphillw: why does it have .zsync at the end of the file name?21:59
phillwmikubuntu: that is because it to be used by zsync21:59
mikubuntuphillw:  that won't affect xfburn recognising it as an iso?22:00
phillwno, it will download th iso, let me just reset the permissions on the file22:01
phillwmikubuntu: permissions reset.22:03
mikubuntuis there anything that might typically cause a hang up during install, like now seems to be hung up in 'select and install' at 'configuring man-db' ??23:10
phillwmikubuntu: does the cd self test okay?23:11
mikubuntuand i did the self test on this disc before running said it was ok23:11
mikubuntuoh, wait, it started moving again, at 65% ...23:12
mikubuntu66%23:12
phillwmikubuntu: is it an older computer?23:12
mikubuntunot really, its a box that my friend built23:13
mikubuntubut he isn't familiar with most software issues (and i couldn't build a box)23:13
phillwokies, they can seem to hang, dpkg (right near the end) can take 90 minutes23:13
mikubuntu72% ... please god, let this finish, everyone else is downstairs eating dinner and i'm still messing with this damn box ... lol23:14
phillwas long as the cd said it was a happy bunny, my advice is patience. (Also, when using the alternate ISO - disconnect from internet, so the machine is forced to use the cd and not go and try and get everything from the internet).23:15
phillwI always drop internet and then  update once machine is running... alternate installer is a funny beast at times, but I swear by it :)23:16
phillwmikubuntu: go have dinner.... it should have finished by the time you have eaten!23:17
mikubuntui don't understand why they let the regular installer go over 700 mb, when 700 is the standard cd size23:17
phillwmikubuntu: lubuntu has a constant battle with keeping CD size. I'm not sure why you are seeing over size, only the desktop ppc image is oversized.23:18

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