[03:07] <HypothesisFrog> hi. My screen just hangs after I log in .. the panel never appears.
[03:07] <HypothesisFrog> lubuntu 14.04
[03:12] <sydney> HypothesisFrog: Can you log out? ctrl-alt-del i think?
[03:15] <holstein> HypothesisFrog: do you see the normal desktop as the guest user?
[03:16] <sydney> holstein: Hi :D
[03:16] <holstein> o/
[03:17] <sydney> :D
[03:19] <HypothesisFrog> holstein good q
[03:19] <HypothesisFrog> bbiab
[03:20] <HypothesisFrog> sydney well I press the power button and it shuts down normally. Can get into shell by going ctrl-alt-F2 as well.
[03:20] <HypothesisFrog> re bbiab
[03:21] <sydney> HypothesisFrog: So,can you right click,or open terminal?
[03:25] <sydney> ...
[03:30] <sydney> HypothesisFrog: are you there?
[03:35] <sydney> bye!!
[12:01] <pvt_petey> hello
[12:02] <pvt_petey> I'm tying to install lubuntu on a mac without functioning usb/disc drive
[12:02] <pvt_petey> i thought to maybe use virtual box as a lifeboat
[12:02] <pvt_petey> is this the best way ?
[18:55] <dj_beirut> i am using a windows machine and i want to ssh to my lubuntu machine with x dispaly. how can i do that? i am new to linux :/
[18:55] <holstein> !puty
[18:55] <holstein> !putty
[18:55] <dj_beirut> i am using putty
[18:55] <holstein> dj_beirut: ^ thats what i use to ssh from windows to ssh servers..
[18:56] <dj_beirut> i can ssh to it. but i want to see the screen on my windows machine. using the lubuntu as almost a headless server
[18:56] <holstein> you can forward x over ssh.. or use many screen sharing options.. vnc, etc.. if you are "new", try teamviewer
[19:19] <mikubuntu> can anyone tell me why i would download the .iso image which says its 683 mb, but when i try to burn to a 700 mb disk it says the image is 716 mb, and so produces errors in burn?
[19:24] <wxl> mikubuntu: download error? did you check the md5?
[19:25] <mikubuntu> wxl -- i been fighting with it so long i want to try something else --- can i install unetbootin to a live cd session and install from net?
[19:26] <wxl> mikubuntu: i guess you could, but if it's a simple download error (which the md5 will tell you in a heartbeat), you can just install zsync and you won't even have to download the whole thing again
[19:27] <mikubuntu> wxl: could you help me with that?
[19:27] <wxl> !md5 | mikubuntu
[19:27] <wxl> !zsync | mikubuntu
[19:28] <mikubuntu> i'll check it out -- i don't think the image is bad because i used the same one to load this machine im chatting on
[19:29] <wxl> mikubuntu: might have been the burn. you can check that like above to find out how to md5sum the cd or usb.
[20:30] <mikubuntu> the zsync page that someone directed me to is not clear to me -- am i to understand that if i terminal:   zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync that it will correct any anomolies in 14.04 ??
[20:32] <mikubuntu> my 4th install attempt on the other machine seems to be stuck at 'configuring apt' in the install part of the program
[20:35] <phillw> mikubuntu: at the end of the zsync, it will report back if there is a mis match in checksum.
[20:36] <phillw> once you have a good image, burn it at the slowest speed possible. Then when you 1st boot with it, run the self test to check it has burned correctly.
[20:37] <mikubuntu> phillw: output: failed on url http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync could not read control file from URL
[20:38] <phillw> mikubuntu: did you install zsync on your machine?>
[20:38] <mikubuntu> yes, according to instruction on the zsych page
[20:39] <SonikkuAmerica> You may need to -o your file and use the standard Ubuntu image at releases.u.c
[20:39] <phillw> if you did, then go to the directory that has the iso file and check that you 'own' it.
[20:40] <phillw> and issue the command
[20:40] <phillw> zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20140705/trusty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
[20:41] <mikubuntu> my problem is that even tho the file says its 683 mb, when i go to burn to a cd it says its 716 mb and apparently can only burn 95% of the image ... i tried loading with the dvd that i used on this machine and it fails multiple times (right now stuck for 30 mins at 'configuring apt' ... the bios will not let me boot from usb either
[20:43] <phillw> mikubuntu: try grabbing the alpha1 (I'll just get the link)
[20:44] <phillw> mikubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/alpha-1/
[20:45] <phillw> if you are still getting over-size errors, grab the alternate , it is some 100 Mb smaller
[20:46] <mikubuntu> hmmmm ... is a cd-r re-recordable?
[20:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Nope...
[20:47] <SonikkuAmerica> CD-RW is though
[20:49] <mikubuntu> great -- guess i have to go out and find somewhere to lift a new cd then .... arrrrrrgh ... maybe kelly has one
[20:52] <phillw> I have a dvd-rw that I use, it forces my burner to burn really slow and can handle over-sized images. mine was 1 GBP from a discount store.
[20:54] <wxl> mikubuntu: you don't have a usb?
[20:56] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: A quid?
[20:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh my
[20:56] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: yup.
[20:57] <phillw> poundland :)
[20:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Jeremy Clarkson got a car for use in one iaode of Top Gear for £1
[20:58] <SonikkuAmerica> s/iaode/episode/
[20:59] <phillw> mikubuntu: also, if the site for ISO's is busy, head over to my mirror at http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/ in your case the command would be
[20:59] <phillw> zsync http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
[21:01] <wxl> SonikkuAmerica: good form. phillw usually forgets the ending slash. :)
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> So do I
[21:02] <SonikkuAmerica> (Normally)
[21:03] <mikubuntu> phillw: sry mssd ur messages was on the phone begging a blank cd it should be here in 10 mins and i'll try the alt installer, its 5pm here and i started messing with this at 9am .... arghh
[21:03] <wxl> tsk tsk tsk
[21:04] <mikubuntu> wxl: yes i have a usb, but the box won't let me assign it for boot
[21:05] <phillw> mikubuntu: in that case...
[21:05] <phillw> cp lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso lubuntu-14.04-alternat-i386.iso
[21:05] <phillw> followed by
[21:05] <phillw> zsync http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-i386.iso.zsync
[21:06] <phillw> it will save having to download the entire iso again.
[21:07] <mikubuntu> but the target machine won't let me do anything in live mode either, so i think i have to dl the alt anyways its only 8 mins
[21:07] <SonikkuAmerica> "alternat" should have an e at the end. Case and spelling are important.
[21:08] <mikubuntu> prolly less for the alt is only about 600 mb looks like
[21:08] <phillw> mikubuntu: okies... use my mirror, it is often faster than the main server :)
[21:09] <mikubuntu> already bookmarked your site, but the alt dl is done, just waiting for the blank cd to arrive
[21:11] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: he he... yeah, I must put my new keyboard into piglet (existing one has no 'E' key.
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> I once had a word processor where S wouldn't work for a while... Poor Jeica...
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> And amuel too
[21:13] <phillw> I've got fairly used to it, but sometimes it does not work :)
[21:53] <mikubuntu> i don't get it --- never had this much trouble doing an install -- i think for the first time ever in my experience, xfburn got to about 59% and then returned a 'burn fail' notice
[21:58] <mikubuntu> phillw: looking for the alternate installer 14.04 on your site but can't find it
[21:58] <phillw> mikubuntu: zsync http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-i386.iso.zsync
[21:59] <mikubuntu> phillw: why does it have .zsync at the end of the file name?
[21:59] <phillw> mikubuntu: that is because it to be used by zsync
[22:00] <mikubuntu> phillw:  that won't affect xfburn recognising it as an iso?
[22:01] <phillw> no, it will download th iso, let me just reset the permissions on the file
[22:03] <phillw> mikubuntu: permissions reset.
[23:10] <mikubuntu> is there anything that might typically cause a hang up during install, like now seems to be hung up in 'select and install' at 'configuring man-db' ??
[23:11] <phillw> mikubuntu: does the cd self test okay?
[23:11] <mikubuntu> and i did the self test on this disc before running said it was ok
[23:12] <mikubuntu> oh, wait, it started moving again, at 65% ...
[23:12] <mikubuntu> 66%
[23:12] <phillw> mikubuntu: is it an older computer?
[23:13] <mikubuntu> not really, its a box that my friend built
[23:13] <mikubuntu> but he isn't familiar with most software issues (and i couldn't build a box)
[23:13] <phillw> okies, they can seem to hang, dpkg (right near the end) can take 90 minutes
[23:14] <mikubuntu> 72% ... please god, let this finish, everyone else is downstairs eating dinner and i'm still messing with this damn box ... lol
[23:15] <phillw> as long as the cd said it was a happy bunny, my advice is patience. (Also, when using the alternate ISO - disconnect from internet, so the machine is forced to use the cd and not go and try and get everything from the internet).
[23:16] <phillw> I always drop internet and then  update once machine is running... alternate installer is a funny beast at times, but I swear by it :)
[23:17] <phillw> mikubuntu: go have dinner.... it should have finished by the time you have eaten!
[23:17] <mikubuntu> i don't understand why they let the regular installer go over 700 mb, when 700 is the standard cd size
[23:18] <phillw> mikubuntu: lubuntu has a constant battle with keeping CD size. I'm not sure why you are seeing over size, only the desktop ppc image is oversized.