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mappsHEY05:27
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)06:54
bigcalmTum te tum07:40
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:17
foobarrymorning08:19
brobostigonmorning foobarry08:21
foobarryoh no, its that time of year when simple people post photos of fizzy drink bottles with peoples name on :(08:29
MooDoohowdy all10:21
bigcalmMorning MooDoo10:25
popeybigcalm: aren't you on a boat?10:56
popeyfoobarry: most successful campaign coke have ever done I believe10:57
codecowboyhi all. since updating (via software update) I can no longer log into Unity / the desktop. I see a greatly reduced resolution for the login screen, enter my password and then just see the desktop background with a mouse pointer11:00
codecowboyI've tried everything here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/449845/problems-after-upgrading-to-14-04-only-background-and-pointer-after-login - and still not working11:01
penguin42codecowboy: You say updating, was this an update from 13.10 to 14.04 or just one of the regular updates?11:01
codecowboyregular updates11:01
penguin42oops, that's bad11:01
codecowboyregular updates. was a fresh 14.04 install11:02
penguin42codecowboy: Can you log into the guest account?11:02
popeywhat video card?11:02
popeynvidia?11:02
codecowboyyep nvidia 880011:03
codecowboyguess account is the same11:03
codecowboyguest11:03
popeydid you install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com or the one from the repo11:04
popey?11:04
codecowboypopey from nvidia.com and it was working before the update11:04
popeythats your problem11:04
popeydont do that11:04
popeyprobably will work if you reboot, hold shift to get grub menu and boot to previous kernel11:04
popeythen  you can re-install the driver or uninstall it and reinstall the repo driver11:05
codecowboybooted into previous kernel and now have a high resolution version of the same problem. desktop but no icons / untiy11:08
popeyok, need to reinstall the driver then11:08
popeyI'd boot to your most recent kernel, go to recovery mode and install driver there11:09
popeyits a shame this happens11:09
* popey goes to make lunch11:09
codecowboystill got the same problem11:16
codecowboyalso tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears11:31
ali1234codecowboy: ensure you have the kernel headers installed. delete the nvidia module from /lib/modules/<kernel>/updates/12:25
ali1234then run dkms install -m nvidia-331-updates -v 331.38 --all12:25
ali1234you will probably have to do this from the recovery session12:25
ali1234actually i think the problem is you never installed nvidia driver12:27
ali1234so install that too12:27
codecowboyali1234 i defiinitey did install the driver and it was working12:28
ali1234you installed it from nvidia.com that doesn't work properl12:28
codecowboyif i try running in failsafe graphics mode, nothing works12:30
codecowboyali1234 is that what you mean by 'revery session'?12:30
ali1234no12:30
codecowboyrecovery session even....12:31
codecowboyali1234 what do you mean then!?12:31
codecowboypopey got any other suggestions?12:39
popeymy only suggestion would be to remove everything that came from nvidia.com and then reboot, using nouveau and that will get you a desktop12:42
popeythen install the right nvidia driver from the repo12:42
codecowboypopey i think i have removed things12:43
popeyreboot and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and/or /var/log/lightdm logs12:43
codecowboypopey what do you mean 'reboot using nouveau' ?12:43
popeyif you reboot without having an nvidia driver installed it should fall back to the free software nouveau driver12:44
codecowboyhow can I be 100% sure I have removed the nvidia.com driver?12:46
popeyyou'll know when it doesnt start12:48
codecowboyrebooting with nouveau doesn't resolve this so guess I will have to reinstall, thanks anyway12:55
popeyyou dont need to reinstall12:57
popeyyou just need to clean up the crap the nvidia driver installs12:57
codecowboyI have done apt-get remove --purge nvidia* etc12:58
popeyno12:58
popeyremove the crap the nvidia driver from nviaid.com installs12:58
codecowboyso maybe i don't know how to do that?12:58
popeyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely12:59
codecowboyyep just done all that12:59
popeyso something is probably still left12:59
popeywhat does xorg.0.log say when  you reboot?12:59
popeycan you pastebin it?12:59
codecowboynot easily, as no guy on the ubuntu box13:00
codecowboyno gui13:00
popeysudo apt-get install pastebinit13:00
popeypastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log13:00
codecowboyperhaps i can ssh in13:00
popeyyou can do the above from the console13:01
codecowboyfound this in the kernel log http://pastebin.com/5L5Q4YGv13:07
popeyprobably left behind by the nvidia driver13:08
popeyit has an uninstall option I believe13:08
codecowboyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7751231/13:09
popeydo you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?13:09
codecowboyi did but deleted it13:12
codecowboyuninstaller log http://paste.ubuntu.com/7751245/13:13
codecowboyproblem persists ... :(13:15
ali1234i had some kernel fun yesterday. did you know that if you install linux-image and not linux-image-extras, the machine will boot up to the login screen and then hard lock?13:26
ali1234and there is no dependency to make sure they both get installed13:26
Myrttihello hello hello14:58
popeyyo15:00
nigelbhi15:01
Myrttioof15:07
Myrttiwant it, but omg the price https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/604134477/swich-wireless-charger-for-iphone-and-android15:07
diddledanMyrtti: that's sexy15:14
popeyhow much!15:31
penguin42Myrtti: Don't show popey kickstarter items....15:32
diddledanlol15:46
diddledanhalle berry in a tv show? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=pe_1083431_50994491_button15:51
diddledansorry, that link's busted15:55
diddledantry http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=pe_1083431_50994491_button/?ie=UTF8&docId=100081187315:55
diddledanspeaking of kickstarter, there's this on indiegogo: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/outpost-an-epic-sci-fi-adventure16:50
ali1234has anyone else seen the problem where the steam "view" menu sticks on the screen when you go to big picture mode?18:10
ali1234https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/333718:26
Myrttihttps://plus.google.com/u/0/100987428678663635460/posts/iXwB3f1xuBq18:35
SuperEngineerali1234: not here -all ok18:36
ali1234SuperEngineer: using nvidia?18:36
SuperEngineerali1234: yup18:36
ali1234and 14.04?18:37
SuperEngineerali1234: yup18:37
ali1234are you suuuuuure?18:37
SuperEngineerali1234: definitely18:37
ali1234hmm. that's really odd18:37
SuperEngineerali1234: just for you - I'll try again...18:38
ali1234multimonitor?18:39
SuperEngineerali1234: still can't get it to stick on screen -& yup -multi monitor18:40
ali1234unity?18:40
SuperEngineerali1234: but now I'm back in xchat - the shadow is still there!!18:41
ali1234hah!18:41
ali1234i knew it18:41
ali1234so it behaves a little bit different for you presumably because of using a different window manager. but the underlying bug still happens18:41
SuperEngineerso bug confirmed - in an indirect sort of way - but definitely confirmed18:41
ali1234get rid of it by opening the view menu again or quitting steam18:42
SuperEngineerali1234:  - now quitting steam...18:42
SuperEngineer...and you're right - so *BUG*18:43
ali1234well at least it's not a window manager bug, then i'd have to fix it18:48
penguin42ali1234: Haha which one do you wrangle?18:50
ali1234xfwm418:50
SuperEngineer[I'd tell you which video card if I could remeber the command - or the package in software centre that told you everything about you're system]18:51
ali1234thing is, today i found another piece of software which does something very similar18:51
ali1234but it looks like just two programs have the same bug to me18:51
SuperEngineerali1234: in case you need the info - my system: 14.04 - Unity - multi-monitor - GeForce GTX 650 - & bug confirmed ;)19:11
ali1234i don't but thanks :)19:12

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