[05:27] <mapps> HEY
[06:54] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[07:40] <bigcalm> Tum te tum
[08:17] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:19] <foobarry> morning
[08:21] <brobostigon> morning foobarry
[08:29] <foobarry> oh no, its that time of year when simple people post photos of fizzy drink bottles with peoples name on :(
[10:21] <MooDoo> howdy all
[10:25] <bigcalm> Morning MooDoo
[10:56] <popey> bigcalm: aren't you on a boat?
[10:57] <popey> foobarry: most successful campaign coke have ever done I believe
[11:00] <codecowboy> hi all. since updating (via software update) I can no longer log into Unity / the desktop. I see a greatly reduced resolution for the login screen, enter my password and then just see the desktop background with a mouse pointer
[11:01] <codecowboy> I've tried everything here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/449845/problems-after-upgrading-to-14-04-only-background-and-pointer-after-login - and still not working
[11:01] <penguin42> codecowboy: You say updating, was this an update from 13.10 to 14.04 or just one of the regular updates?
[11:01] <codecowboy> regular updates
[11:01] <penguin42> oops, that's bad
[11:02] <codecowboy> regular updates. was a fresh 14.04 install
[11:02] <penguin42> codecowboy: Can you log into the guest account?
[11:02] <popey> what video card?
[11:02] <popey> nvidia?
[11:03] <codecowboy> yep nvidia 8800
[11:03] <codecowboy> guess account is the same
[11:03] <codecowboy> guest
[11:04] <popey> did you install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com or the one from the repo
[11:04] <popey> ?
[11:04] <codecowboy> popey from nvidia.com and it was working before the update
[11:04] <popey> thats your problem
[11:04] <popey> dont do that
[11:04] <popey> probably will work if you reboot, hold shift to get grub menu and boot to previous kernel
[11:05] <popey> then  you can re-install the driver or uninstall it and reinstall the repo driver
[11:08] <codecowboy> booted into previous kernel and now have a high resolution version of the same problem. desktop but no icons / untiy
[11:08] <popey> ok, need to reinstall the driver then
[11:09] <popey> I'd boot to your most recent kernel, go to recovery mode and install driver there
[11:09] <popey> its a shame this happens
[11:09]  * popey goes to make lunch
[11:16] <codecowboy> still got the same problem
[11:31] <codecowboy> also tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[12:25] <ali1234> codecowboy: ensure you have the kernel headers installed. delete the nvidia module from /lib/modules/<kernel>/updates/
[12:25] <ali1234> then run dkms install -m nvidia-331-updates -v 331.38 --all
[12:25] <ali1234> you will probably have to do this from the recovery session
[12:27] <ali1234> actually i think the problem is you never installed nvidia driver
[12:27] <ali1234> so install that too
[12:28] <codecowboy> ali1234 i defiinitey did install the driver and it was working
[12:28] <ali1234> you installed it from nvidia.com that doesn't work properl
[12:30] <codecowboy> if i try running in failsafe graphics mode, nothing works
[12:30] <codecowboy> ali1234 is that what you mean by 'revery session'?
[12:30] <ali1234> no
[12:31] <codecowboy> recovery session even....
[12:31] <codecowboy> ali1234 what do you mean then!?
[12:39] <codecowboy> popey got any other suggestions?
[12:42] <popey> my only suggestion would be to remove everything that came from nvidia.com and then reboot, using nouveau and that will get you a desktop
[12:42] <popey> then install the right nvidia driver from the repo
[12:43] <codecowboy> popey i think i have removed things
[12:43] <popey> reboot and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and/or /var/log/lightdm logs
[12:43] <codecowboy> popey what do you mean 'reboot using nouveau' ?
[12:44] <popey> if you reboot without having an nvidia driver installed it should fall back to the free software nouveau driver
[12:46] <codecowboy> how can I be 100% sure I have removed the nvidia.com driver?
[12:48] <popey> you'll know when it doesnt start
[12:55] <codecowboy> rebooting with nouveau doesn't resolve this so guess I will have to reinstall, thanks anyway
[12:57] <popey> you dont need to reinstall
[12:57] <popey> you just need to clean up the crap the nvidia driver installs
[12:58] <codecowboy> I have done apt-get remove --purge nvidia* etc
[12:58] <popey> no
[12:58] <popey> remove the crap the nvidia driver from nviaid.com installs
[12:58] <codecowboy> so maybe i don't know how to do that?
[12:59] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely
[12:59] <codecowboy> yep just done all that
[12:59] <popey> so something is probably still left
[12:59] <popey> what does xorg.0.log say when  you reboot?
[12:59] <popey> can you pastebin it?
[13:00] <codecowboy> not easily, as no guy on the ubuntu box
[13:00] <codecowboy> no gui
[13:00] <popey> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:00] <popey> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:00] <codecowboy> perhaps i can ssh in
[13:01] <popey> you can do the above from the console
[13:07] <codecowboy> found this in the kernel log http://pastebin.com/5L5Q4YGv
[13:08] <popey> probably left behind by the nvidia driver
[13:08] <popey> it has an uninstall option I believe
[13:09] <codecowboy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7751231/
[13:09] <popey> do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:12] <codecowboy> i did but deleted it
[13:13] <codecowboy> uninstaller log http://paste.ubuntu.com/7751245/
[13:15] <codecowboy> problem persists ... :(
[13:26] <ali1234> i had some kernel fun yesterday. did you know that if you install linux-image and not linux-image-extras, the machine will boot up to the login screen and then hard lock?
[13:26] <ali1234> and there is no dependency to make sure they both get installed
[14:58] <Myrtti> hello hello hello
[15:00] <popey> yo
[15:01] <nigelb> hi
[15:07] <Myrtti> oof
[15:07] <Myrtti> want it, but omg the price https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/604134477/swich-wireless-charger-for-iphone-and-android
[15:14] <diddledan> Myrtti: that's sexy
[15:31] <popey> how much!
[15:32] <penguin42> Myrtti: Don't show popey kickstarter items....
[15:46] <diddledan> lol
[15:51] <diddledan> halle berry in a tv show? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=pe_1083431_50994491_button
[15:55] <diddledan> sorry, that link's busted
[15:55] <diddledan> try http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=pe_1083431_50994491_button/?ie=UTF8&docId=1000811873
[16:50] <diddledan> speaking of kickstarter, there's this on indiegogo: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/outpost-an-epic-sci-fi-adventure
[18:10] <ali1234> has anyone else seen the problem where the steam "view" menu sticks on the screen when you go to big picture mode?
[18:26] <ali1234> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3337
[18:35] <Myrtti> https://plus.google.com/u/0/100987428678663635460/posts/iXwB3f1xuBq
[18:36] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: not here -all ok
[18:36] <ali1234> SuperEngineer: using nvidia?
[18:36] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: yup
[18:37] <ali1234> and 14.04?
[18:37] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: yup
[18:37] <ali1234> are you suuuuuure?
[18:37] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: definitely
[18:37] <ali1234> hmm. that's really odd
[18:38] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: just for you - I'll try again...
[18:39] <ali1234> multimonitor?
[18:40] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: still can't get it to stick on screen -& yup -multi monitor
[18:40] <ali1234> unity?
[18:41] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: but now I'm back in xchat - the shadow is still there!!
[18:41] <ali1234> hah!
[18:41] <ali1234> i knew it
[18:41] <ali1234> so it behaves a little bit different for you presumably because of using a different window manager. but the underlying bug still happens
[18:41] <SuperEngineer> so bug confirmed - in an indirect sort of way - but definitely confirmed
[18:42] <ali1234> get rid of it by opening the view menu again or quitting steam
[18:42] <SuperEngineer> ali1234:  - now quitting steam...
[18:43] <SuperEngineer> ...and you're right - so *BUG*
[18:48] <ali1234> well at least it's not a window manager bug, then i'd have to fix it
[18:50] <penguin42> ali1234: Haha which one do you wrangle?
[18:50] <ali1234> xfwm4
[18:51] <SuperEngineer> [I'd tell you which video card if I could remeber the command - or the package in software centre that told you everything about you're system]
[18:51] <ali1234> thing is, today i found another piece of software which does something very similar
[18:51] <ali1234> but it looks like just two programs have the same bug to me
[19:11] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: in case you need the info - my system: 14.04 - Unity - multi-monitor - GeForce GTX 650 - & bug confirmed ;)
[19:12] <ali1234> i don't but thanks :)