| Kilos | morning all | 06:58 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi bushtech hopping again | 07:37 |
| Vince-0 | he must be in the bush | 08:25 |
| Kilos | haha ya he is kinda | 08:49 |
| Kilos | some nature reserve place near pretoria | 08:49 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 08:49 |
| Kilos | hi bduk | 08:49 |
| Kilos | bduk, doen my n guns asb. vra mazal om vir die laaste keur net in ons minetest te gaan en sy huis deur te vervand met hout deur of dit te delete | 08:54 |
| Kilos | en die chests | 08:54 |
| bduk | More almal | 08:55 |
| bduk | Eksal vir hom sms | 08:55 |
| Kilos | dankie baie, se hy kan als uit chests op vloer gooi sommer ek sal skoonmaak dankie | 08:56 |
| Kilos | anyone got an idea how to make ubuntu see an android tablet so sis kan get her stuff off it to put on her xp pc | 08:59 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 09:05 |
| psychicist | hi Kilos | 09:09 |
| * Kilos gotta install something to let ubuntu be able to see and work on an android tablet | 09:18 | |
| SilverCode | Kilos: what kind of tablet is it, and what version of Android is it running? | 09:22 |
| Kilos | hi SilverCode stylco she says | 09:23 |
| SilverCode | Google made things much harder with the 4.1 (?) release that prevented you from being able to mount the tablet as a normal HDD | 09:23 |
| Kilos | i dunno how to find the version on it | 09:23 |
| SilverCode | normally you go to the settings and choose "About Phone/Tablet" | 09:24 |
| SilverCode | and it lists the version somewhere | 09:24 |
| SilverCode | but with the random brands, it that isn't always the case | 09:24 |
| Kilos | eish 4.1.1 | 09:25 |
| SilverCode | the easiest solution is just use something like Dropbox | 09:25 |
| Kilos | oi | 09:25 |
| Kilos | we need to know how to remove pics and music so it has space on it again | 09:26 |
| Kilos | move them to a flash or something | 09:26 |
| Kilos | she already has dropbox with lotsa stuff but that was when she was at a free wifi area, here data is limited | 09:27 |
| SilverCode | on my PC (using Netrunner .. basically Kubuntu 14.04), if I plug my Galaxy Note 10.1 in, it shows up as an MTP device | 09:27 |
| SilverCode | which allows me to copy stuff off it | 09:27 |
| Kilos | oh i can go to 14.04 kde | 09:28 |
| Kilos | so i must just install netrunner? | 09:28 |
| SilverCode | I have a sneaky suspicion that the problem won't be on the Ubuntu side | 09:28 |
| SilverCode | but rather the tablet side | 09:28 |
| Kilos | i looked in synaptic and there are lots of android packages but i havent a clue what is needed | 09:29 |
| SilverCode | I've dealt with some cheap chiense Android devices that just refuse to show up via USB connections | 09:29 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:30 |
| Kilos | terrible things. | 09:30 |
| SilverCode | if you plug the device in, and run "dmesg | tail", does it look like the PC is actually *seeing* the device? | 09:30 |
| Kilos | lemme try | 09:30 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s20EVedBaF | 09:32 |
| Kilos | i just see usb stuff. dont show anything meaningful to me | 09:32 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 09:34 |
| SilverCode | well the good news is it knows you have plugged something in | 09:45 |
| SilverCode | the bad news it is doesn't seem to actuall "register" it | 09:45 |
| SilverCode | not sure how to get around that | 09:45 |
| === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle | ||
| SilverCode | are you plugging it directly into the PC, or connecting through a USB hub? | 09:46 |
| Kilos | direct on front usb port | 09:47 |
| Kilos | how can you see it sees it | 09:47 |
| Kilos | which line told you that | 09:47 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:47 |
| Kilos | isnt it an android app that needs to be installed | 09:48 |
| Kilos | excuse my ignorance | 09:53 |
| Kilos | installed some of the android stuff from synaptic related to android devices and new "dmesg | tail" is very different | 10:12 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2jxfrOQ6z | 10:12 |
| SilverCode | Kilos: it looks like it is having a hard time communicating properly over USB. Normally this is due to a bad cable/usb port, or the device hasn't followed the proper USB spec | 10:41 |
| SilverCode | I could be wrong, but I don't think installing anything on the device or the PC will help | 10:42 |
| Kilos | ah ty SilverCode for your help | 10:42 |
| SilverCode | sorry I can't give more information, but things like this are hard to debug without having the stuff infront of you | 10:43 |
| Kilos | np | 10:43 |
| Kilos | im grateful for any guidance | 10:44 |
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| Kilos | ohi superfly | 13:53 |
| smile | hoi :p | 14:34 |
| Kilos | hoi smile | 14:34 |
| Kilos | :-) | 14:35 |
| psychicist | hoi smile :) | 14:35 |
| charl | good afternoon | 14:40 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 14:40 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 14:40 | |
| Kilos | hi psychicist again i think and charl | 14:41 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 14:41 |
| psychicist | hi charl | 14:43 |
| psychicist | hi Kilos | 14:43 |
| psychicist | yeah | 14:43 |
| Kilos | haha | 14:43 |
| psychicist | I am around but relaxing a bit | 14:43 |
| Kilos | you lucky hey | 14:43 |
| psychicist | it's weekend after all | 14:43 |
| psychicist | yeah | 14:43 |
| Kilos | yeah | 14:43 |
| psychicist | I also upgraded my Kubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 and 14.04 last night | 14:43 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 14:44 |
| psychicist | so I think I deserve it to relax a bit now | 14:44 |
| charl | hi psychicist | 14:44 |
| Kilos | whew why not install 14.04 strtaight | 14:44 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 14:44 |
| Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 14:44 |
| Kilos | straight then just run backup | 14:44 |
| psychicist | because it would be harder, I would have had to mess with the bootloader and stuff | 14:44 |
| psychicist | because I am running it off an USB drive | 14:44 |
| Kilos | oh kde aint got a good backup thing like deja-dup in ubuntu | 14:45 |
| charl | ah i want to try that | 14:45 |
| charl | running it off usb | 14:45 |
| Kilos | ah | 14:45 |
| charl | i tried to install it but it seems like the installer doesn't make it easy | 14:45 |
| charl | i have an old 16gb one lying here that i could use as a portable ubuntu install | 14:46 |
| psychicist | yeah | 14:47 |
| Kilos | i have done it . sold one with 12.04 installed with all the apps for data recovery and drive repair info | 14:47 |
| psychicist | the installer works | 14:47 |
| Kilos | i just installed straight to the usb stick | 14:48 |
| psychicist | but then when I tried to boot the system, the drive letters didn't match | 14:48 |
| psychicist | or rather the drive names in Linux | 14:48 |
| charl | it only gave me options to "replace" and "erase" etc but not to do a fresh install on a usb alongside my existing install | 14:48 |
| psychicist | so /dev/sdc turned out to have changed to /dev/sdb and I had to fix that manually | 14:48 |
| charl | i fear i might need to first disconnect or wipe the hard drive so i can select a drive to install to | 14:49 |
| Kilos | oh ya i unplugged the internal and installed | 14:49 |
| charl | problem to disconnect if i'm on a laptop | 14:49 |
| charl | then i have to open the whole thing up | 14:49 |
| charl | ubuntu installer sucks :( | 14:49 |
| psychicist | I can't unplug the internal because this is my work laptop | 14:49 |
| Kilos | oi | 14:49 |
| psychicist | I just don't boot into Windows when I don't need to | 14:50 |
| charl | i only run windows inside a vm for when i have to use it for some app | 14:50 |
| charl | our support ticket application only runs in IE at work | 14:50 |
| charl | so i run it inside vmware | 14:50 |
| psychicist | I would like to try installing onto an eSATA drive, though | 14:51 |
| psychicist | I would probably get better performance using that | 14:51 |
| charl | eSATA - like an external hard drive? | 14:51 |
| Kilos | in unity with disk-utility you can format the stick to mbr then install should be easy as the dvd sees it as a bootable drive | 14:51 |
| psychicist | yeah | 14:51 |
| charl | yeah but then you have to plug it in every time, and it's much larger than a flash drive | 14:51 |
| charl | these days you get 32gb or larger on a flash drive | 14:51 |
| psychicist | oh, but I am using an USB drive actually | 14:52 |
| charl | which is more than enough for a system disk | 14:52 |
| psychicist | I mean and external USB hard drive | 14:52 |
| psychicist | an* | 14:52 |
| psychicist | with a full installation of Kubuntu | 14:52 |
| charl | oh i see | 14:52 |
| charl | actually one step better would be sd card | 14:52 |
| psychicist | probably yes | 14:53 |
| charl | because sd card fits nicely internally so i can move my laptop around freely without fear of knocking out or damaging the usb flash drive | 14:53 |
| charl | although then it's not as portable anymore because i can't boot a regular pc off it without an sd card reader | 14:53 |
| charl | but super handy for laptops though | 14:53 |
| charl | some desktops have sd card readers but most don't :( | 14:54 |
| psychicist | you can always build a card reader into it like I did | 14:54 |
| charl | possible but it's my work machine so i don't want to mess with it too much | 14:55 |
| charl | my laptop is my personal one | 14:55 |
| psychicist | oh, I understand | 14:56 |
| psychicist | an external USB card reader then, but that would defeat the purpose probably | 14:56 |
| charl | i dunno i still have a spare usb flash drive lying around, i'll do that first :) | 14:58 |
| charl | will see about the card later | 14:58 |
| Kilos | i just wanted a bootable ubuntu stick for repairing crashed pcs mainly boot probs and then for data recovery | 14:58 |
| Kilos | and it works | 14:59 |
| charl | Kilos: that's a good thing to have lying around | 14:59 |
| Kilos | haha i had it for 2 weeks. was planning on selling them with a booklet i wrote but ian grabbed it and gave me R2oo so i was happy | 15:00 |
| Kilos | oi | 15:00 |
| Kilos | R200 | 15:00 |
| Kilos | stick cost R110 | 15:00 |
| Kilos | 16G | 15:00 |
| Kilos | he used it to fix his pc, and now uses it at clients as well | 15:01 |
| Kilos | i installed boot-repair on it as well and that comes in handy with pcs with boot probs | 15:02 |
| charl | psychicist: you do java development as well ? | 15:02 |
| charl | or you were learning it ? | 15:02 |
| superfly | anyone got any clues as to why my plasma doesn't load once I've logged in? | 15:03 |
| psychicist | charl, I know java actually, but I am not doing any development at the moment. I want to get certified for OCAJ/OCPJ | 15:03 |
| charl | psychicist: ah, i tried eclim for the first time yesterday, it was a bit of a pain to get working properly but once i "got it" it works really nicely | 15:04 |
| psychicist | charl, what is that? | 15:04 |
| charl | psychicist: problem with eclim is it's based off eclipse, and i don't know what you think of eclipse, but i really don't like it | 15:04 |
| charl | eclim is a vim plugin for java development that works off eclipse in the background | 15:05 |
| psychicist | oh, I don't like eclipse either | 15:05 |
| charl | so you get things like context menus for all your java classes etc | 15:05 |
| Kilos | sjoe superfly ian had that and someone gave me a command for him to run | 15:05 |
| psychicist | that is quite nice, yes | 15:05 |
| charl | wb smile | 15:05 |
| Kilos | something with sudo blah blah plasma start or start plasma | 15:06 |
| charl | psychicist: i don't really care for context menus that much but they are handy sometimes | 15:06 |
| smile | thanks :p | 15:06 |
| superfly | charl, psychicist, have you guys looked at IntelliJ? | 15:06 |
| charl | nope, googling | 15:06 |
| smile | charl: I'm trying out a bash script, which involves restarting Firefox :P | 15:07 |
| charl | smile: ah you use chatzilla... :) | 15:07 |
| charl | superfly: does it have good maven integration ? | 15:07 |
| superfly | not sure, I don't do Java | 15:08 |
| charl | lol | 15:08 |
| superfly | they have a Python plugin, so I use that | 15:08 |
| psychicist | superfly, hi. I haven't looked at it, no. I have netbeans installed in case I need an IDE | 15:08 |
| charl | i'll park it and perhaps i can try it at work | 15:08 |
| superfly | well, I use PyCharm, which is the python plugin in a product | 15:08 |
| charl | we were looking for a better ide than eclipse because we all hate it | 15:08 |
| superfly | in my experience it's the IDE that sucks the least | 15:08 |
| charl | i refuse to use it, i use vim instead, still the best editor :) | 15:08 |
| psychicist | yeah | 15:08 |
| charl | ah i see it has support for spring | 15:09 |
| superfly | I'm waiting for KDevelop to have a decent Python plugin... right now PyCharm still beats it, but PyCharm is still annoying. | 15:09 |
| charl | that's good | 15:09 |
| superfly | we moved our C++ dev from Eclipse CDT to KDevelop | 15:09 |
| charl | i used to use kdevelop long time ago (7 years or so) | 15:10 |
| charl | since then moved to vim and never looked back | 15:10 |
| superfly | we do a lot of pairing, so we need to be able to just sit down at any PC and work | 15:11 |
| superfly | thus KDevelop works the best | 15:11 |
| superfly | (and it's got some pretty awesome features) | 15:11 |
| charl | superfly: do you work like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBjVTMUQY0 | 15:12 |
| superfly | hahaha | 15:13 |
| superfly | I know that video well | 15:13 |
| superfly | we use BitBucket at work, and when that video came out it did the rounds | 15:13 |
| charl | my response to pair programming: no thank you :P | 15:13 |
| smile | charl: yes :p | 15:13 |
| charl | oh my goodness, a pull request | 15:13 |
| charl | :O | 15:14 |
| charl | fork, spoon and knife | 15:14 |
| superfly | charl: have you seen this? https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat | 15:14 |
| charl | superfly: nope, watching it now | 15:15 |
| charl | superfly: hmmm can't download the .mov and i don't have flash installed | 15:17 |
| charl | when i try to download the mov it keeps pausing or something | 15:17 |
| superfly | might be on youtube | 15:17 |
| charl | oh wait, here it goes now | 15:18 |
| charl | just had to retry 10 times | 15:18 |
| superfly | ok | 15:19 |
| superfly | seemed to work for me | 15:19 |
| charl | amazon s3 bah | 15:20 |
| charl | for a company that was "the first" they seem to have fallen far behind | 15:20 |
| charl | whahaha that video | 15:22 |
| charl | ok i'm off ttyl all | 15:22 |
| psychicist | see you later charl | 15:24 |
| smile | charl: apparently, I can create multiple profiles for firefox, one test profile and one running profile :p | 15:32 |
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| superfly | Kilos: I found my problem.... disk space | 15:38 |
| superfly | I'm running this particular Kubuntu off an 8 gig flash drive | 15:38 |
| superfly | 8 is actually too little... | 15:38 |
| Kilos | ouch superfly what size disk? | 15:46 |
| Kilos | oh ok i read more | 15:46 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 15:46 |
| Kilos | hi Rynomster | 15:47 |
| Kilos | maybe i must get 0ad with my night surfer data, minetest is using 3 or 4 months data a month | 15:52 |
| Kilos | but i love it | 15:52 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: try freeciv or freecol maybe? | 16:22 |
| Kilos | what are they theblazehen ? | 16:22 |
| Kilos | i need something that doesnt wanna go online | 16:23 |
| Kilos | want to | 16:23 |
| Kilos | and i cannot stop playing minetest, just need to limit how much i do | 16:27 |
| charl | have you people been looking at blackphone | 16:27 |
| Kilos | ya since i was young, all telcom phones were black | 16:28 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:28 |
| Kilos | now telcom is telkom | 16:28 |
| charl | talking about https://www.blackphone.ch/ | 16:30 |
| charl | the review (in dutch) does not sound so positive http://webwereld.nl/beveiliging/83057-blackphone-traag--onhandig-maar-wel-superveilig-update | 16:31 |
| charl | i'm looking for a 100 | 16:32 |
| charl | 100% open source phone | 16:33 |
| charl | sorry hit enter by mistake | 16:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:51 |
| Kilos | i enjoy when you okes also make mistakes | 16:51 |
| charl | Kilos: we are human we make mistakes all the time :P | 16:51 |
| Kilos | i often have to first edit my lines | 16:51 |
| charl | problem is once you hit enter it's out there :P | 16:52 |
| Kilos | ya lol | 16:52 |
| Kilos | i get killed lots in minetest from hitting wrong keys | 16:53 |
| charl | http://zestmobile.net/ nice ! | 16:54 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:58 |
| Kilos | superfly, i found the original hole in the top lava source that you and the monkey fixed way back then | 18:02 |
| Kilos | graeme taught me how to work with lava | 18:02 |
| Kilos | n ow i can clean up my whole mine | 18:03 |
| Kilos | bit of a stutter there | 18:03 |
| theblazehen | Anyone know how to compile java prjects? | 18:05 |
| mazal | Evening everyone | 18:10 |
| mazal | Oom Kilos here ? | 18:10 |
| Kilos | ya ek is | 18:10 |
| mazal | Barry het my laat weet ek moet my huise se deure oopmaak | 18:11 |
| mazal | Maar ek het nie daai adres by die huis nie , kan oom vir my gee asb. | 18:11 |
| Kilos | nie moet nie maar sal jy asb. en die kaste | 18:11 |
| Kilos | sec | 18:11 |
| === smile|eten is now known as smile | ||
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo | 18:56 |
| smile | good night! | 18:58 |
| smile | :) | 18:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | was it something i said? :-o | 18:58 |
| smile | nope ;) | 18:58 |
| charl | hey magespawn | 19:01 |
| magespawn | hey cahrl | 19:02 |
| magespawn | woops | 19:02 |
| magespawn | hey charl | 19:02 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy magespawn | 19:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hi Kilos | 19:03 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 19:03 |
| magespawn | ho ThatGraemeGuy | 19:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo | 19:09 |
| charl | magespawn: you know stuff about asterisk right ? | 19:10 |
| charl | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 19:10 |
| magespawn | yup charl, some stuff at least | 19:10 |
| charl | magespawn: how well does sip work behind nat routing these days | 19:10 |
| charl | cause that used to be a major problem | 19:10 |
| magespawn | the asterisk authenticates to the external sip server and keeps the connection alive that way | 19:12 |
| charl | i'm looking at some options right now for secure voip | 19:13 |
| charl | i'm mainly looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRTP | 19:13 |
| charl | i'm also looking at jitsi and freeswitch atm | 19:13 |
| magespawn | never heard of jitsi but i think freeswitch is based on asterisk | 19:14 |
| charl | jitsi is looking really awesome right now | 19:14 |
| * magespawn goes to look | 19:16 | |
| charl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi | 19:16 |
| magespawn | that looks pretty complete | 19:24 |
| charl | ja man | 19:25 |
| charl | i already run an xmpp server (prosody) so i wonder if it will work | 19:27 |
| charl | if i just run voip over jitsi using xmpp+jingle | 19:27 |
| charl | otherwise i will need to look at adding some voip / sip server but then it will have to be secure and encrypted, preferably end to end | 19:28 |
| charl | that's why i was looking at zrtp | 19:28 |
| charl | but back when i used to work with asterisk (many years ago) i found it to be very insecure | 19:28 |
| charl | practically nothing was encrypted back then and there weren't even proper authentication mechanisms | 19:28 |
| charl | it was all "we trust you cause you're on the lan" and also hence the problems with nat routing | 19:28 |
| Rynomster | hi Kilos | 19:28 |
| Rynomster | how are you? | 19:29 |
| charl | nat traversal shouldn't be necessary in any case considering we should all be using ipv6y already | 19:29 |
| charl | *ipv6 | 19:29 |
| Kilos | well ty Rynomster and you? | 19:29 |
| charl | hi Rynomster | 19:29 |
| Rynomster | im well thx :) | 19:29 |
| Kilos | just cold actually | 19:29 |
| Rynomster | hit charl | 19:29 |
| Rynomster | hi* | 19:29 |
| charl | lol | 19:29 |
| Rynomster | yea very cold :( | 19:29 |
| charl | no please don't hit me :) | 19:29 |
| Rynomster | soz lol | 19:29 |
| * Rynomster slaps charl with a large trout | 19:29 | |
| magespawn | i do not think that all the isp's here in sa have given put ipv6 addresses to the customers yet | 19:29 |
| charl | i think that counts for most countries sadly | 19:30 |
| charl | magespawn: http://www.google.com/intl/nl/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption | 19:30 |
| Kilos | does ipv6 mean data disappears faster? | 19:31 |
| charl | germany and the us are both doing pretty well but as for the rest ... | 19:31 |
| charl | Kilos: data disappears? what? | 19:31 |
| charl | i hope it won't increase packet loss no... | 19:31 |
| Kilos | lol i mean gets used quicker man | 19:31 |
| Kilos | caps that is | 19:31 |
| Kilos | you uncapped peeps are spoiled | 19:32 |
| charl | eh, i don't think that has anything to do with it | 19:32 |
| charl | ipv6 is just the follow-up of ipv4 with better protocols and much more address space | 19:32 |
| Kilos | oh course | 19:32 |
| charl | so it will probably remain unchanged in that respect | 19:32 |
| Kilos | oh so not faster | 19:32 |
| charl | as in, it won't make a significant difference either way | 19:32 |
| magespawn | i was wondering about how the tracking of computers would work with ipv6 | 19:33 |
| charl | tracking of computers ? | 19:33 |
| charl | how do you mean | 19:33 |
| magespawn | well as i understand it the last part of an ipv6 address in unique to the computer | 19:34 |
| charl | the last 64 bits is the network segment part | 19:36 |
| charl | so the first 64 bits identifies the network segment and the last 64 bits is upscaled from the 48-bit mac address on the network segment | 19:37 |
| charl | or the computer can choose a random mac address (privacy extensions) | 19:37 |
| charl | and that keeps changing over time too | 19:37 |
| charl | so every day for example you can have a new randomised ip address | 19:37 |
| charl | s/random mac address/random last 64 bits/ | 19:38 |
| charl | it can also of course randomise the mac address but that's a different story | 19:38 |
| charl | when you look at an "upscaled" mac address it has the trademark "ff:fe" in there somewhere | 19:39 |
| charl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_address#Modified_EUI-64 | 19:40 |
| magespawn | i thought the mac would stay fixed, unless you took stpes to change it | 19:40 |
| charl | yes you can easily randomise the mac address but you have to do it using the operating system after booting | 19:40 |
| charl | because by default it will always revert back to what the manufacturer set it to | 19:41 |
| magespawn | most people would not know to even look to do that | 19:42 |
| charl | you can use macchanger for example | 19:42 |
| charl | https://github.com/alobbs/macchanger | 19:42 |
| charl | you can also set it using the ifconfig command | 19:43 |
| charl | sudo ifconfig eth0 hw ether AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF | 19:43 |
| charl | but privacy extensions are enabled by default on debian and ubuntu | 19:43 |
| charl | openbsd too | 19:43 |
| charl | and i would assume most other gnu/linux or *bsd distrobutions | 19:43 |
| charl | so there should be absolutely no need for worry | 19:44 |
| magespawn | i do use the other os a fair amount | 19:45 |
| charl | bbl | 19:45 |
| charl | need to go shower | 19:45 |
| charl | been hot and humid all day and i'm sweaty :( | 19:45 |
| magespawn | showers are good | 19:48 |
| magespawn | amusing how the map of alaska is green, i wonder how many addresses they use up there | 19:53 |
| Kilos | how are you magespawn ? | 19:59 |
| charl | big soccer match now | 20:12 |
| charl | nl vs costa rica | 20:12 |
| magespawn | Kilos i am fine, a bit tired from a busy week | 20:42 |
| Kilos | sjoe , look after yourself man | 20:42 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron | 20:43 |
| Xethron | hi Kilos | 20:43 |
| magespawn | Kilos, it is all good thanks | 21:00 |
| Kilos | ok | 21:00 |
| magespawn | i am off to bed now, good night all | 21:01 |
| magespawn | exit | 21:02 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 21:42 |
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