| xubuntu982 | hello? | 00:16 |
|---|---|---|
| ObrienDave | yes? | 00:17 |
| xubuntu982 | Just saying hi. I dont use IRC ever. I'm installing Xubuntu for the first time | 00:17 |
| malcom_ | welcome :) | 00:18 |
| xubuntu982 | thanks! | 00:18 |
| ObrienDave | ok, LOL welcome to Xubuntu | 00:18 |
| xubuntu982 | Ok, I have a Q | 00:18 |
| ObrienDave | just ask | 00:18 |
| xubuntu982 | when partitioning - what is the diff between a logical and primary and which should your / partition be? | 00:19 |
| ObrienDave | you are allowed 4 primary partitions per physical disk...... | 00:20 |
| xubuntu982 | ahhh, I see | 00:20 |
| ObrienDave | you can have many logical partitions in each primary partition | 00:20 |
| xubuntu982 | Do you have to have a primary, or can they all be logcal?\ | 00:20 |
| ObrienDave | yes, you must have at least one primary partition | 00:20 |
| xubuntu982 | ok, thanks | 00:21 |
| ObrienDave | logical partitions must exist within a primary partition | 00:21 |
| ObrienDave | you can have one primary partition without logical partitions | 00:22 |
| ObrienDave | you can NOT have logical partitions without a primary | 00:22 |
| ObrienDave | i should say yoy can have up to 4 primary partitions without logical | 00:23 |
| ObrienDave | *you | 00:23 |
| malcom_ | good info | 00:24 |
| jayjee | Hi | 03:03 |
| ObrienDave | greetings and welcome | 03:04 |
| jayjee | i'm looking for ways to remove a few unneeded themes, icons etc. | 03:05 |
| jayjee | Like using this command to remove unity (section c clean): https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative | 03:06 |
| jayjee | Would appreciate any help with it. | 03:07 |
| jayjee | New to linux and running it in virtualbox but, now i'm running out of disk space. | 03:07 |
| jayjee | Hello ObrienDave, Thanks for your greetings. | 03:07 |
| ObrienDave | well, you can't change the size of the VM disk without re-defining the disk. and you're welcome | 03:08 |
| ObrienDave | which disk is getting low on space? real HD or VM disk? | 03:11 |
| jayjee | ObrienDave: I'm actually less on my computer hard disk space. I have 120GB HD and only 20GB left. So i don't have option to redefine vm mem allocation. So the option i'm looking is to remove some unneeded themes. | 03:11 |
| ObrienDave | ok, but you would still have to re-define the VM disk to make it smaller | 03:12 |
| jayjee | Yep, i did fixed allocation for VM so not problem for HD space. I'm actually running out of VM disk space. | 03:14 |
| holstein | jayjee: that really wont reclaim much space.. larger media files will | 03:14 |
| ObrienDave | all of your Ubuntu install is in one VM disk file. then that command should help. no guarantees | 03:14 |
| ObrienDave | did you define the VM disk as static or dynamic? | 03:16 |
| jayjee | ObrienDave: I defined VM disk as static. | 03:16 |
| ObrienDave | ok, the VM is a fixed size. you should be able to run that command and clear some VM space. ymmv | 03:17 |
| jayjee | Apologies, for the confusion. I mentioned it as disk space in my initial question, i should have mentioned it as VM space. | 03:18 |
| jayjee | ObrienDave: Thank you, would give a try. | 03:18 |
| ObrienDave | not to worry, let us know how it goes for you. welcome | 03:19 |
| holstein | jayjee: regardless, removing some icons and themes are a way to just cause issues.. not clear up disk space | 03:19 |
| jayjee | holstein: Oh! i see. | 03:21 |
| ObrienDave | jayjee, that command is for clearing Unity AFTER installing xubuntu-desktop | 03:24 |
| jayjee | holstein: I actually ran the command by the time i saw your note. Anyhow, would take a note of your point. Would erase and reinstall the VM copy if something goes wrong. | 03:24 |
| jayjee | ObrienDave, holstein : It cleared 41MB space. Guess, not much. :) | 03:25 |
| ObrienDave | probably not as much as you would have liked :) | 03:26 |
| holstein | large media files.. | 03:27 |
| jayjee | ObrienDave, Yep not much. | 03:27 |
| jayjee | holstein, Does Xubuntu come with large media files, i looked for them already but did not find any. | 03:29 |
| jayjee | But i'm really liking xubuntu. Its been just 2 days of use. | 03:30 |
| ObrienDave | no, Xubuntu does not come with large media files | 03:30 |
| ObrienDave | i'm on Xubuntu now | 03:30 |
| jayjee | I have tried Ubuntu, Linux lite and multiple other ubuntu themes but my VM with allocated space couldn't handle. | 03:31 |
| jayjee | ObrienDave, me too. :) | 03:31 |
| jayjee | ObrienDave, holstein, have you checked Linux lite theme ? | 03:32 |
| holstein | jayjee: theming is *not* going to save you much space | 03:32 |
| ObrienDave | i've tried most of the debian based distros. i keep coming back to Xubuntu | 03:32 |
| holstein | jayjee: chaning desktop really wouldnt even do that.. the best you can do is look at what you have personally added to the machine and clear out media files | 03:32 |
| jayjee | Linux lite looks really beautiful. But, it wasn't stable and i have a long way to go before i can fix them myself. | 03:33 |
| jayjee | holstein, yep, got it. would look for them and may be some softwares too. | 03:34 |
| jayjee | Have you tried USB booting on MAC ? | 03:35 |
| ObrienDave | not me | 03:35 |
| holstein | i used plop on mine | 03:35 |
| jayjee | I have old 512MB flash drive and i thought to make use of it. It boots to EIF but give unaligned point 0x2 error. | 03:35 |
| jayjee | Tried with puppy linux and Damn small linux, same error. | 03:36 |
| holstein | error? you mean, you cant boot usb on the mac? | 03:36 |
| holstein | thats not an error.. they dont boot USB, AFAIK | 03:36 |
| jayjee | when i do alt/option start i can see the Flash drive - EIF. | 03:36 |
| holstein | but, i use plop, which boots from CD, and can typically facilitate booting usb | 03:37 |
| jayjee | It them gives me to enter 0, 1 to boot or modify booting option. | 03:37 |
| jayjee | I do 0 | 03:37 |
| holstein | jayjee: i literaly put the plop CD in the mac, boot the cd, select the USB, and boot it | 03:37 |
| jayjee | holstein, i see. | 03:38 |
| jayjee | I have macbook pro 2013. It doesn't have CB ROM anymore. | 03:38 |
| jayjee | CD* | 03:38 |
| jayjee | Kernel path: /live/vmlinuz | ramdisc path: /live/initrd.lz boot parameters: Loading Linux kernel... done unaligned pointer 0x2. Aborted. | 03:39 |
| ObrienDave | jayjee, 512mb might be a bit small to run any ubuntu distro except for the net install. i think it's a 4gb minimum | 03:39 |
| jayjee | ObrienDave, oh, i see. | 03:40 |
| holstein | you can always take the drive out and just maintain it on another machine with usb or cd boot | 03:40 |
| jayjee | Gotcha. | 03:40 |
| jayjee | Thanks a lot for your guidance, ObrienDave and holstein. | 03:43 |
| ObrienDave | most welcome jayjee, let us know how it goes for you | 03:45 |
| jayjee | sure ObrienDave, would stick around here going forward. | 03:48 |
| ObrienDave | we'll be here :)) | 03:49 |
| SamwiseGamgee | How come xubuntu cannot recognize any of my webcams? | 12:05 |
| SamwiseGamgee | There is not even anything in the Settings that displays web cameras | 12:06 |
| SamwiseGamgee | The Settings Manager has nothing to configure or examine webcams | 12:07 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee install cheese or ucview | 12:08 |
| SamwiseGamgee | The closest I can get in the Settings Manager is Removable Drives and Media | 12:08 |
| SamwiseGamgee | But it just says Import digital photos when connected, probably just for SLR cameras | 12:10 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I will try ucview, is that better than cheese? | 12:10 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee it's comparable | 12:11 |
| SamwiseGamgee | which one is better for Logitech cams? | 12:12 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee won't matter so long as you have the correct drivers for the cam | 12:12 |
| SamwiseGamgee | where do I get the drivers? | 12:13 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I tried adding and updating my drivers using the Settings Manager, but nothing worked | 12:13 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee start with the logitech site ... if no joy, we go to plan b. | 12:13 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I tried installing the drivers with the Wine Launcher | 12:14 |
| SamwiseGamgee | using my webcam's Windows installation CD | 12:14 |
| SamwiseGamgee | but that failed miserably | 12:14 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee well of course that failed ... | 12:15 |
| cfhowlett | :) | 12:15 |
| cfhowlett | good idea though | 12:15 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee do a search for your specific make + model + ubuntu | 12:15 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Just a google search? | 12:16 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee sure | 12:16 |
| SamwiseGamgee | It's Logitech HD Webcam C270 | 12:16 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Once I find the right drivers, how do I install them? | 12:17 |
| SamwiseGamgee | There's a section in Settings Manager called "Additional Drivers" but it always says No Additional Drivers Available, even when I expanded with extra repositories | 12:20 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee do you have the cam plugged in and cheese installed? | 12:20 |
| SamwiseGamgee | the cam is plugged in | 12:21 |
| SamwiseGamgee | but I don't have cheese installed | 12:21 |
| SamwiseGamgee | does cheese provide drivers? | 12:21 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee you have no camera software installed. I suggested 2 options ... | 12:22 |
| SamwiseGamgee | should't I get the drivers first, before I start installing software for my webcam? | 12:23 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee you're thinking MS Windows ... :) get the damn camera software! | 12:23 |
| SamwiseGamgee | ok, how do I install cheese? | 12:24 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee software center ... | 12:24 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I tried installing software using the Software Centre several times before, and xubuntu doesn't even list the software available let alone show how to install software | 12:25 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee ehhhhhhhhh, bad news there chief: https://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17665/related/1 | 12:25 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I have another webcam that is older | 12:25 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Oh, the Ubuntu Software Centre looks good | 12:27 |
| SamwiseGamgee | When I tried to install my Logitch webcam using the installationn CD, xubuntu told me my webcam is using a slow USB port | 12:28 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee right. that doesn't mean it doesn't work ... | 12:29 |
| SamwiseGamgee | And the installation never went beyond that | 12:29 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee start cheese and test | 12:29 |
| cfhowlett | "installation CD"? in ubuntu? | 12:29 |
| SamwiseGamgee | But I switched to two other USB ports and xubuntu still does not recognize my webcam | 12:30 |
| cfhowlett | "INSTALLATION CD" ???? | 12:30 |
| SamwiseGamgee | No, it was a Windows installation CD | 12:30 |
| cfhowlett | STOP! | 12:30 |
| SamwiseGamgee | stop what? | 12:31 |
| cfhowlett | linux is not windows, windows is not linux. stop trying to install windows in linux and expect your hardware to work. your CD was NOT meant to linux. | 12:31 |
| cfhowlett | now: plug in your cam. start cheese. test functionality. | 12:31 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I should try using cheese with the older webcam | 12:32 |
| SamwiseGamgee | the old webcam is lebeca | 12:32 |
| cfhowlett | plug in your logitech cam | 12:32 |
| SamwiseGamgee | the Logitech cam is already plugged in | 12:33 |
| cfhowlett | start cheese. (I say again ...) | 12:33 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Oh, shit, I should test the USB port first, I never used that port before | 12:33 |
| SamwiseGamgee | it's good | 12:35 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I installed cheese | 12:43 |
| SamwiseGamgee | the webcam still does not work | 12:44 |
| SamwiseGamgee | cheese says there was an error with my webcam video, but everything is dark | 12:45 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee so try the other cam | 12:45 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Cheese said, "There was an error playing video from the webcam" | 12:45 |
| SamwiseGamgee | ok | 12:45 |
| SamwiseGamgee | the old lebeca cam works | 12:48 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee this page will be useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#See%20also | 12:48 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I had to unplug the Logitech cam. Plug in the lebeca cam, then relaunch cheese, and it worked, thanks | 12:49 |
| elfy | SamwiseGamgee: I'm not sure what you did with that logitech c270 webcam - but what I did was plug it in and use it - no need to do anything other than that - at least it works fine in14.04 and 14.10 | 12:50 |
| cfhowlett | elfy yeah, there's conflicting info. I saw several entries that it should plug and play. | 12:51 |
| SamwiseGamgee | My Logitech webcam was working before, when I was using Kubuntu 12.04 | 12:51 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee if you haven't done so, make sure whatever you were doing in .wine has been completely purged. Otherwise: conflict | 12:51 |
| SamwiseGamgee | But sometimes it did not work, and I never had any webcam software when I was using Kubuntu | 12:52 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Damn, yeah, I think xubuntu told me there was a serious error after I had tried to install the Webcam Installation software from the CD | 12:53 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee sounds like you might have created your own issues. | 12:53 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee purge all the .wine configuration files | 12:54 |
| SamwiseGamgee | How do you purge that stuff from Wine? | 12:54 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee wine > uninstall wine software | 12:54 |
| SamwiseGamgee | is there a specific command line for that? | 12:54 |
| SamwiseGamgee | But I am using Wine for BabasChess | 12:54 |
| SamwiseGamgee | and BabasChess is working | 12:55 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I am also using Wine for Netflix and Firefox | 12:55 |
| cfhowlett | SamwiseGamgee had you tried the commmand I suggested, you would see that you can selectively modify/remove programs, e.g. logitech drivers ... | 12:57 |
| SamwiseGamgee | which command was that? | 12:58 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Uninstall? | 12:59 |
| zierka | hi. I installed xubuntu 14.04, and there are no icons in the menu (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2788150/Screenshot%20-%20050714%20-%2018%3A09%3A35.png). Clean install. Settings > Desktop > Menus tab > Show application icons in menu checked. | 15:14 |
| subz3r0 | hey all | 19:17 |
| subz3r0 | where can i change the touchpad config in xubuntu? | 19:17 |
| subz3r0 | want to scroll with to fingers and turn on double click | 19:18 |
| PCFutbol | Configuration - Mouse and Touchpad | 19:32 |
| PCFutbol | Select touchpad and show a new task with options for the touchpad | 19:32 |
| IRL_ | so...hi | 19:34 |
| PCFutbol | hi | 19:34 |
| IRL_ | wow, someone responded, score | 19:35 |
| IRL_ | what are you up to? | 19:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | IRL_: Not much, but I can smell an !ot convo coming up, can we move it to #xubuntu-off topic please? | 19:36 |
| IRL_ | gotchya | 19:38 |
| IRL_ | appologies | 19:38 |
| subz3r0 | hmm | 20:13 |
| subz3r0 | arent firefox and thunderbird in the repos? | 20:13 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Yeah... | 20:14 |
| Guido1 | Hello, I have a little question. Where can I set up that I can move the windows in the to bar? | 20:58 |
| xangua | "Move the windows in the to bar"? | 20:59 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Guido1: The window list you mean? | 21:01 |
| Guido1 | SonikkuAmerica: yes | 21:01 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Right click the panel, hit Panel Prefs, then go to the Items tab and drag and drop | 21:01 |
| Guido1 | in 12 i could move the open windows imidiatly. is that not possible any more? | 21:02 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh oh oh... Not the location I the panel, the window titles themselves | 21:03 |
| Guido1 | yes | 21:03 |
| SonikkuAmerica | So instead of dragging and dropping, select the Window List in the Panel Items and hit the little gear in that column of buttons. | 21:04 |
| Guido1 | SonikkuAmerica: ah, thanks :-) | 21:06 |
| SonikkuAmerica | The drag and drop isn't default but it's there. I like the grouping, it reminds me of XP | 21:06 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Welcome to XFCE 4.11 | 21:06 |
| Guido1 | SonikkuAmerica: i just like to have al windows related to study together and all related to media and all about comunication etc. | 21:08 |
| SonikkuAmerica | O | 21:08 |
| zierka | hi. I installed xubuntu 14.04, and the icons in the menu and in context menus are missing. pic: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2788150/Screenshot%20-%20050714%20-%2018%3A09%3A35.png . Clean install, Settings > Deskop > Menus tab > "Show applications icon in menu" ticked. | 21:09 |
| Guido1 | Hello, Iḿ searching for a shortcut. normaly the is a button which can be used as alternative for the right click of the mouse, but what is the shortcutr if this buutton is missing? | 21:32 |
| sadhash | I'm so happy xubuntu exists | 21:34 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Ís thís fór thé próblém yóú méñtíóñéd éárlíér? | 21:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Guido1: ^ | 21:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | sadhash: So do I. There is finally sanity in the world. | 21:36 |
| Guido1 | SonikkuAmerica: what exactly do you mean? | 21:37 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Guido1: Can't right click with your mouse, so you can't change the setting I helped you find earlier? | 21:37 |
| Guido1 | SonikkuAmerica: no, that worked out well | 21:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Pop into the Settings Manager from the Whisker menu and select Panel. | 21:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | O... Did something happen to your mouse? | 21:38 |
| Guido1 | SonikkuAmerica: iḿ just not using the mouse from my laptop su much, but buttons / keybord. | 21:39 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh. So you want to create a custom shortcut for it (like, e.g., Ctrl+click on Mac) for right click? | 21:39 |
| Guido1 | normaly there is a button which equals the rightclick. itś between the right windows button and CTRL | 21:40 |
| Guido1 | sadly this button is missing on my laptop, but there seam to be a shortcut which replaces it already, but i don know the shortcut | 21:41 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh, the Menu button! | 21:41 |
| Guido1 | yes | 21:41 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (I was like whatonearthareyoutalkingabout) | 21:41 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Shift+F10? | 21:42 |
| Guido1 | SonikkuAmerica: that works :-), but i have the idea that there is a second one - for me shift + F10 means Fn + shift + F10 and somtimes i activate the menu by accident .... | 21:44 |
| Guido1 | something with buttons on the right, i think | 21:46 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Guido1: Maybe your JEDI or BROS has an option for this... | 21:46 |
| Guido1 | SonikkuAmerica: how cann i check that? | 21:46 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Wait what... I meant UWFI and BIOS! | 21:46 |
| SonikkuAmerica | s/W/E/ | 21:47 |
| Guido1 | ah, okee, bios | 21:47 |
| Guido1 | i will have a look there | 21:47 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Use the force, Guido1 | 21:47 |
| Guido1 | thanks | 21:47 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Welcome you are | 21:48 |
| Guido1 | the force? because of jedi? | 21:48 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Yep | 21:48 |
| Guido1 | :-) | 21:48 |
| xubuntu868 | hello | 22:11 |
| xubuntu868 | just a question: it's there a ppa of xfce-4.12 for trusty, like the one for saucy? Thanks | 22:11 |
| ochosi | xubuntu868: it's not really necessary as most of 4.12 is already in 14.04 | 22:30 |
| xubuntu868 | ochosi: thanks | 23:10 |
| SamwiseGamgee | ImageMagick is almost slowing my PC to a halt, how to I kill the process on xubuntu 14.04? | 23:42 |
| SamwiseGamgee | It took way too long to boot up, then when it tried to access a PDF, it froze and is really slowing down my PC. I can't exit it | 23:43 |
| SamwiseGamgee | How to I exit from ImageMagic or stop it from runnning? | 23:44 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: assuming the command is "convert", then in a terminal ''pkill convert'' | 23:44 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Convert what? | 23:44 |
| SamwiseGamgee | It finally closed after almost 10 minutes | 23:45 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: ImageMagick have a couple of commands. the most common is "convert", so I assumed that. what command do you want to kill then? | 23:45 |
| SamwiseGamgee | What's the deal with ImagMagick? Why is it so slow? | 23:46 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I managed to exit the program, ImageMagick, thank God | 23:46 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: it is not slow in general. what are you doing with it? | 23:46 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I tried to access a PDF file | 23:47 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Is that what caused ImageMagick to slow down so much? | 23:47 |
| SamwiseGamgee | It took almost ten minutes to boot up....it's the first time I tried using ImageMagick since I iinstallled xubuntu a few days ago | 23:48 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: "access"? I just converted a 1 page, 1.6 megabyte pdf do gif. it took 2 seconds. | 23:50 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: now I am converting a 24 page, 9.6 megabyte pdf to gif. it is not ready yet. | 23:51 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: not it finished, it took 2 minutes. | 23:51 |
| David-A | *now | 23:53 |
| yoLo_ | what is the command to upgrade and install updates / | 23:54 |
| yoLo_ | ? | 23:54 |
| SamwiseGamgee | What is Access? Is it native to xubuntu? | 23:54 |
| yoLo_ | sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install update right ? | 23:55 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: no, I wondered what you meant "access a pdf" with ImageMagick? | 23:55 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: i did: convert filename.pdf filename.gif | 23:55 |
| David-A | yoLo_: the other way around update first, upgrade then | 23:57 |
| yoLo_ | i should discard the "install" ? | 23:57 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Normally, I just open a PDF with a program like Adobe Acrobat | 23:57 |
| David-A | yoLo_: yes | 23:58 |
| SamwiseGamgee | So I assumed you were talking about a program similar to Adobe Acrobat | 23:58 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Does xubuntu have a program similar to Adobe Acrobat, you can use to open up PDFs, view them and manipulate them? | 23:58 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: what did you want ImageMagick to do with the pdf? | 23:58 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Open it up to view it | 23:59 |
| David-A | SamwiseGamgee: xubuntu have a pdf viewer installed by default. it should be enough to just double click the pdf | 23:59 |
| yoLo_ | David-A have your linux prompt you to install linux-image-3..... something something updates ? | 23:59 |
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