[00:16] hello? [00:17] yes? [00:17] Just saying hi. I dont use IRC ever. I'm installing Xubuntu for the first time [00:18] welcome :) [00:18] thanks! [00:18] ok, LOL welcome to Xubuntu [00:18] Ok, I have a Q [00:18] just ask [00:19] when partitioning - what is the diff between a logical and primary and which should your / partition be? [00:20] you are allowed 4 primary partitions per physical disk...... [00:20] ahhh, I see [00:20] you can have many logical partitions in each primary partition [00:20] Do you have to have a primary, or can they all be logcal?\ [00:20] yes, you must have at least one primary partition [00:21] ok, thanks [00:21] logical partitions must exist within a primary partition [00:22] you can have one primary partition without logical partitions [00:22] you can NOT have logical partitions without a primary [00:23] i should say yoy can have up to 4 primary partitions without logical [00:23] *you [00:24] good info [03:03] Hi [03:04] greetings and welcome [03:05] i'm looking for ways to remove a few unneeded themes, icons etc. [03:06] Like using this command to remove unity (section c clean): https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative [03:07] Would appreciate any help with it. [03:07] New to linux and running it in virtualbox but, now i'm running out of disk space. [03:07] Hello ObrienDave, Thanks for your greetings. [03:08] well, you can't change the size of the VM disk without re-defining the disk. and you're welcome [03:11] which disk is getting low on space? real HD or VM disk? [03:11] ObrienDave: I'm actually less on my computer hard disk space. I have 120GB HD and only 20GB left. So i don't have option to redefine vm mem allocation. So the option i'm looking is to remove some unneeded themes. [03:12] ok, but you would still have to re-define the VM disk to make it smaller [03:14] Yep, i did fixed allocation for VM so not problem for HD space. I'm actually running out of VM disk space. [03:14] jayjee: that really wont reclaim much space.. larger media files will [03:14] all of your Ubuntu install is in one VM disk file. then that command should help. no guarantees [03:16] did you define the VM disk as static or dynamic? [03:16] ObrienDave: I defined VM disk as static. [03:17] ok, the VM is a fixed size. you should be able to run that command and clear some VM space. ymmv [03:18] Apologies, for the confusion. I mentioned it as disk space in my initial question, i should have mentioned it as VM space. [03:18] ObrienDave: Thank you, would give a try. [03:19] not to worry, let us know how it goes for you. welcome [03:19] jayjee: regardless, removing some icons and themes are a way to just cause issues.. not clear up disk space [03:21] holstein: Oh! i see. [03:24] jayjee, that command is for clearing Unity AFTER installing xubuntu-desktop [03:24] holstein: I actually ran the command by the time i saw your note. Anyhow, would take a note of your point. Would erase and reinstall the VM copy if something goes wrong. [03:25] ObrienDave, holstein : It cleared 41MB space. Guess, not much. :) [03:26] probably not as much as you would have liked :) [03:27] large media files.. [03:27] ObrienDave, Yep not much. [03:29] holstein, Does Xubuntu come with large media files, i looked for them already but did not find any. [03:30] But i'm really liking xubuntu. Its been just 2 days of use. [03:30] no, Xubuntu does not come with large media files [03:30] i'm on Xubuntu now [03:31] I have tried Ubuntu, Linux lite and multiple other ubuntu themes but my VM with allocated space couldn't handle. [03:31] ObrienDave, me too. :) [03:32] ObrienDave, holstein, have you checked Linux lite theme ? [03:32] jayjee: theming is *not* going to save you much space [03:32] i've tried most of the debian based distros. i keep coming back to Xubuntu [03:32] jayjee: chaning desktop really wouldnt even do that.. the best you can do is look at what you have personally added to the machine and clear out media files [03:33] Linux lite looks really beautiful. But, it wasn't stable and i have a long way to go before i can fix them myself. [03:34] holstein, yep, got it. would look for them and may be some softwares too. [03:35] Have you tried USB booting on MAC ? [03:35] not me [03:35] i used plop on mine [03:35] I have old 512MB flash drive and i thought to make use of it. It boots to EIF but give unaligned point 0x2 error. [03:36] Tried with puppy linux and Damn small linux, same error. [03:36] error? you mean, you cant boot usb on the mac? [03:36] thats not an error.. they dont boot USB, AFAIK [03:36] when i do alt/option start i can see the Flash drive - EIF. [03:37] but, i use plop, which boots from CD, and can typically facilitate booting usb [03:37] It them gives me to enter 0, 1 to boot or modify booting option. [03:37] I do 0 [03:37] jayjee: i literaly put the plop CD in the mac, boot the cd, select the USB, and boot it [03:38] holstein, i see. [03:38] I have macbook pro 2013. It doesn't have CB ROM anymore. [03:38] CD* [03:39] Kernel path: /live/vmlinuz | ramdisc path: /live/initrd.lz boot parameters: Loading Linux kernel... done unaligned pointer 0x2. Aborted. [03:39] jayjee, 512mb might be a bit small to run any ubuntu distro except for the net install. i think it's a 4gb minimum [03:40] ObrienDave, oh, i see. [03:40] you can always take the drive out and just maintain it on another machine with usb or cd boot [03:40] Gotcha. [03:43] Thanks a lot for your guidance, ObrienDave and holstein. [03:45] most welcome jayjee, let us know how it goes for you [03:48] sure ObrienDave, would stick around here going forward. [03:49] we'll be here :)) [12:05] How come xubuntu cannot recognize any of my webcams? [12:06] There is not even anything in the Settings that displays web cameras [12:07] The Settings Manager has nothing to configure or examine webcams [12:08] SamwiseGamgee install cheese or ucview [12:08] The closest I can get in the Settings Manager is Removable Drives and Media [12:10] But it just says Import digital photos when connected, probably just for SLR cameras [12:10] I will try ucview, is that better than cheese? [12:11] SamwiseGamgee it's comparable [12:12] which one is better for Logitech cams? [12:12] SamwiseGamgee won't matter so long as you have the correct drivers for the cam [12:13] where do I get the drivers? [12:13] I tried adding and updating my drivers using the Settings Manager, but nothing worked [12:13] SamwiseGamgee start with the logitech site ... if no joy, we go to plan b. [12:14] I tried installing the drivers with the Wine Launcher [12:14] using my webcam's Windows installation CD [12:14] but that failed miserably [12:15] SamwiseGamgee well of course that failed ... [12:15] :) [12:15] good idea though [12:15] SamwiseGamgee do a search for your specific make + model + ubuntu [12:16] Just a google search? [12:16] SamwiseGamgee sure [12:16] It's Logitech HD Webcam C270 [12:17] Once I find the right drivers, how do I install them? [12:20] There's a section in Settings Manager called "Additional Drivers" but it always says No Additional Drivers Available, even when I expanded with extra repositories [12:20] SamwiseGamgee do you have the cam plugged in and cheese installed? [12:21] the cam is plugged in [12:21] but I don't have cheese installed [12:21] does cheese provide drivers? [12:22] SamwiseGamgee you have no camera software installed. I suggested 2 options ... [12:23] should't I get the drivers first, before I start installing software for my webcam? [12:23] SamwiseGamgee you're thinking MS Windows ... :) get the damn camera software! [12:24] ok, how do I install cheese? [12:24] SamwiseGamgee software center ... [12:25] I tried installing software using the Software Centre several times before, and xubuntu doesn't even list the software available let alone show how to install software [12:25] SamwiseGamgee ehhhhhhhhh, bad news there chief: https://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17665/related/1 [12:25] I have another webcam that is older [12:27] Oh, the Ubuntu Software Centre looks good [12:28] When I tried to install my Logitch webcam using the installationn CD, xubuntu told me my webcam is using a slow USB port [12:29] SamwiseGamgee right. that doesn't mean it doesn't work ... [12:29] And the installation never went beyond that [12:29] SamwiseGamgee start cheese and test [12:29] "installation CD"? in ubuntu? [12:30] But I switched to two other USB ports and xubuntu still does not recognize my webcam [12:30] "INSTALLATION CD" ???? [12:30] No, it was a Windows installation CD [12:30] STOP! [12:31] stop what? [12:31] linux is not windows, windows is not linux. stop trying to install windows in linux and expect your hardware to work. your CD was NOT meant to linux. [12:31] now: plug in your cam. start cheese. test functionality. [12:32] I should try using cheese with the older webcam [12:32] the old webcam is lebeca [12:32] plug in your logitech cam [12:33] the Logitech cam is already plugged in [12:33] start cheese. (I say again ...) [12:33] Oh, shit, I should test the USB port first, I never used that port before [12:35] it's good [12:43] I installed cheese [12:44] the webcam still does not work [12:45] cheese says there was an error with my webcam video, but everything is dark [12:45] SamwiseGamgee so try the other cam [12:45] Cheese said, "There was an error playing video from the webcam" [12:45] ok [12:48] the old lebeca cam works [12:48] SamwiseGamgee this page will be useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#See%20also [12:49] I had to unplug the Logitech cam. Plug in the lebeca cam, then relaunch cheese, and it worked, thanks [12:50] SamwiseGamgee: I'm not sure what you did with that logitech c270 webcam - but what I did was plug it in and use it - no need to do anything other than that - at least it works fine in14.04 and 14.10 [12:51] elfy yeah, there's conflicting info. I saw several entries that it should plug and play. [12:51] My Logitech webcam was working before, when I was using Kubuntu 12.04 [12:51] SamwiseGamgee if you haven't done so, make sure whatever you were doing in .wine has been completely purged. Otherwise: conflict [12:52] But sometimes it did not work, and I never had any webcam software when I was using Kubuntu [12:53] Damn, yeah, I think xubuntu told me there was a serious error after I had tried to install the Webcam Installation software from the CD [12:53] SamwiseGamgee sounds like you might have created your own issues. [12:54] SamwiseGamgee purge all the .wine configuration files [12:54] How do you purge that stuff from Wine? [12:54] SamwiseGamgee wine > uninstall wine software [12:54] is there a specific command line for that? [12:54] But I am using Wine for BabasChess [12:55] and BabasChess is working [12:55] I am also using Wine for Netflix and Firefox [12:57] SamwiseGamgee had you tried the commmand I suggested, you would see that you can selectively modify/remove programs, e.g. logitech drivers ... [12:58] which command was that? [12:59] Uninstall? [15:14] hi. I installed xubuntu 14.04, and there are no icons in the menu (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2788150/Screenshot%20-%20050714%20-%2018%3A09%3A35.png). Clean install. Settings > Desktop > Menus tab > Show application icons in menu checked. [19:17] hey all [19:17] where can i change the touchpad config in xubuntu? [19:18] want to scroll with to fingers and turn on double click [19:32] Configuration - Mouse and Touchpad [19:32] Select touchpad and show a new task with options for the touchpad [19:34] so...hi [19:34] hi [19:35] wow, someone responded, score [19:35] what are you up to? [19:36] IRL_: Not much, but I can smell an !ot convo coming up, can we move it to #xubuntu-off topic please? [19:38] gotchya [19:38] appologies [20:13] hmm [20:13] arent firefox and thunderbird in the repos? [20:14] Yeah... [20:58] Hello, I have a little question. Where can I set up that I can move the windows in the to bar? [20:59] "Move the windows in the to bar"? [21:01] Guido1: The window list you mean? [21:01] SonikkuAmerica: yes [21:01] Right click the panel, hit Panel Prefs, then go to the Items tab and drag and drop [21:02] in 12 i could move the open windows imidiatly. is that not possible any more? [21:03] Oh oh oh... Not the location I the panel, the window titles themselves [21:03] yes [21:04] So instead of dragging and dropping, select the Window List in the Panel Items and hit the little gear in that column of buttons. [21:06] SonikkuAmerica: ah, thanks :-) [21:06] The drag and drop isn't default but it's there. I like the grouping, it reminds me of XP [21:06] Welcome to XFCE 4.11 [21:08] SonikkuAmerica: i just like to have al windows related to study together and all related to media and all about comunication etc. [21:08] O [21:09] hi. I installed xubuntu 14.04, and the icons in the menu and in context menus are missing. pic: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2788150/Screenshot%20-%20050714%20-%2018%3A09%3A35.png . Clean install, Settings > Deskop > Menus tab > "Show applications icon in menu" ticked. [21:32] Hello, Iḿ searching for a shortcut. normaly the is a button which can be used as alternative for the right click of the mouse, but what is the shortcutr if this buutton is missing? [21:34] I'm so happy xubuntu exists [21:35] Ís thís fór thé próblém yóú méñtíóñéd éárlíér? [21:35] Guido1: ^ [21:36] sadhash: So do I. There is finally sanity in the world. [21:37] SonikkuAmerica: what exactly do you mean? [21:37] Guido1: Can't right click with your mouse, so you can't change the setting I helped you find earlier? [21:38] SonikkuAmerica: no, that worked out well [21:38] Pop into the Settings Manager from the Whisker menu and select Panel. [21:38] O... Did something happen to your mouse? [21:39] SonikkuAmerica: iḿ just not using the mouse from my laptop su much, but buttons / keybord. [21:39] Oh. So you want to create a custom shortcut for it (like, e.g., Ctrl+click on Mac) for right click? [21:40] normaly there is a button which equals the rightclick. itś between the right windows button and CTRL [21:41] sadly this button is missing on my laptop, but there seam to be a shortcut which replaces it already, but i don know the shortcut [21:41] Oh, the Menu button! [21:41] yes [21:41] (I was like whatonearthareyoutalkingabout) [21:42] Shift+F10? [21:44] SonikkuAmerica: that works :-), but i have the idea that there is a second one - for me shift + F10 means Fn + shift + F10 and somtimes i activate the menu by accident .... [21:46] something with buttons on the right, i think [21:46] Guido1: Maybe your JEDI or BROS has an option for this... [21:46] SonikkuAmerica: how cann i check that? [21:46] Wait what... I meant UWFI and BIOS! [21:47] s/W/E/ [21:47] ah, okee, bios [21:47] i will have a look there [21:47] Use the force, Guido1 [21:47] thanks [21:48] Welcome you are [21:48] the force? because of jedi? [21:48] Yep [21:48] :-) [22:11] hello [22:11] just a question: it's there a ppa of xfce-4.12 for trusty, like the one for saucy? Thanks [22:30] xubuntu868: it's not really necessary as most of 4.12 is already in 14.04 [23:10] ochosi: thanks [23:42] ImageMagick is almost slowing my PC to a halt, how to I kill the process on xubuntu 14.04? [23:43] It took way too long to boot up, then when it tried to access a PDF, it froze and is really slowing down my PC. I can't exit it [23:44] How to I exit from ImageMagic or stop it from runnning? [23:44] SamwiseGamgee: assuming the command is "convert", then in a terminal ''pkill convert'' [23:44] Convert what? [23:45] It finally closed after almost 10 minutes [23:45] SamwiseGamgee: ImageMagick have a couple of commands. the most common is "convert", so I assumed that. what command do you want to kill then? [23:46] What's the deal with ImagMagick? Why is it so slow? [23:46] I managed to exit the program, ImageMagick, thank God [23:46] SamwiseGamgee: it is not slow in general. what are you doing with it? [23:47] I tried to access a PDF file [23:47] Is that what caused ImageMagick to slow down so much? [23:48] It took almost ten minutes to boot up....it's the first time I tried using ImageMagick since I iinstallled xubuntu a few days ago [23:50] SamwiseGamgee: "access"? I just converted a 1 page, 1.6 megabyte pdf do gif. it took 2 seconds. [23:51] SamwiseGamgee: now I am converting a 24 page, 9.6 megabyte pdf to gif. it is not ready yet. [23:51] SamwiseGamgee: not it finished, it took 2 minutes. [23:53] *now [23:54] what is the command to upgrade and install updates / [23:54] ? [23:54] What is Access? Is it native to xubuntu? [23:55] sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install update right ? [23:55] SamwiseGamgee: no, I wondered what you meant "access a pdf" with ImageMagick? [23:55] SamwiseGamgee: i did: convert filename.pdf filename.gif [23:57] yoLo_: the other way around update first, upgrade then [23:57] i should discard the "install" ? [23:57] Normally, I just open a PDF with a program like Adobe Acrobat [23:58] yoLo_: yes [23:58] So I assumed you were talking about a program similar to Adobe Acrobat [23:58] Does xubuntu have a program similar to Adobe Acrobat, you can use to open up PDFs, view them and manipulate them? [23:58] SamwiseGamgee: what did you want ImageMagick to do with the pdf? [23:59] Open it up to view it [23:59] SamwiseGamgee: xubuntu have a pdf viewer installed by default. it should be enough to just double click the pdf [23:59] David-A have your linux prompt you to install linux-image-3..... something something updates ?