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ianorlinwhy can't you leave it on while you eat00:29
phillwianorlin: I do that and come back to the HTTP proxy prompt and want to put my foot through the computer!00:32
ianorlinah yeah that too00:33
phillwianorlin: yup, I have to to the freezer and get some ice for the burn :)00:48
phillws/to to/to go to/00:49
phillwmikubuntu: so, how did it go?00:50
mikubuntujust got a report on this new install that these programs: You have some obsolete package versions installed. Please upgrade the following packages and check if the problem still occurs:  apt, apt-utils, gcc-4.9-base, gnupg, gpgv, iso-codes, libapt-inst1.5, libapt-pkg4.12, libc6, libgcc1, libsqlite3-0, libstdc++6, multiarch-support, python-six00:50
mikubuntuis this just a matter of running autoremove?00:51
phillwmikubuntu: that is to be expected, 14.04 goes 14.04.1 at the end of this month.00:51
phillwmikubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove00:52
mikubuntuphillw: so it will be corrected in regular updates?00:52
phillwmikubuntu: 14.04 has had a lot of updates since it was created. There are several bug fixes for lubuntu and kernel upgrades from ubuntu. It will want to down load a lot.00:53
mikubuntuthx phillw  just ran your update command00:55
phillwmikubuntu: it will need a reboot, as you will have  new kernel. you may need to run that command more than once to pull it fully up to date... the kernel can only update as far as the firmware that it has. and repeat should be a lot faster. When it says 'nothing to do', you know you are up to date.00:56
mikubuntuok will do00:58
phillwmikubuntu: as to why you have had so much grief installing? Pass.... 14.04 has installed okay with a couple of known bugs, but it has always installed. :/00:58
phillwmikubuntu: how is the update going?01:05
phillwmikubuntu: wb.... Dare I ask how it is going? I've stayed up late (02:36 am here).01:36
mikubuntucan't find where to set pref for screenlock (unlock i should say i don't want screen to keep locking when i walk away for a few mins)01:47
phillwmikubuntu: it is still a bug... I had it fixed, then got it back again... let me see if I can find the work around for you.01:48
phillwmikubuntu: have a try with http://askubuntu.com/questions/130808/stop-xscreensaver-from-locking-screen-once-screensaver-starts01:49
phillwin the meantime, is the little critter running oaky?01:49
phillws/oaky/okay/01:50
ianorlin14.04 uses lightlocker01:50
phillwianorlin: indeed... but it still pretty broken!01:51
tertuOut of curiosity, is there a way to hide desktop icons on the second desktop when using a dual-monitor setup?01:56
phillwtertu: I've not found one yet... I'm guessing it is a decision that the devs had to take...01:58
tertueither that or some goofy openbox thing01:58
ianorlinpcmanfm draws the desktop and I don't know of an option to do it01:58
ianorlinopenbox doesn't draw a desktop by itself01:59
HypothesisFrogIs there any way I can reduce the amount of disk space taken up? I only have 3gig, and it's almost run out already.01:59
ianorlin!mini01:59
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD01:59
tertuuh that's not the right answer01:59
tertuit doesn't shrink the size of the install01:59
ianorlinif you install less stuff it does02:00
tertuoh, there we go02:00
phillwindeed not, use the core install.02:00
tertuyeah that's the only way to do it02:00
tertudelete things you don't need02:00
phillwtertu: nah, don't install them in the 1st place02:00
tertuyes, if that is an option02:01
phillwtertu: HypothesisFrog there is indeed.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall and select core install, you can even grab a cut down browser from there...02:02
phillwtertu: I'm a member of the wiki team, as well as testing.... lubuntu has so many ways to install :)02:05
tertuthat's cool02:06
tertuthat this is an option02:06
phillwtertu: we even have a non-pae community edition for 14.04..... People are committed to low resource kit.02:11
tertuthat's good to see at ubuntu.02:17
phillwtertu: the kernels I respun (with LOTS of help) are only currently being used by people via lubuntu / lxde.02:18
phillwtertu: anyways, nice to chat... I'm off to bed (03:25 am) here.02:25
tertunight!02:29
HypothesisFrogphillw so I have to reinstall?02:30
phillwHypothesisFrog: is your install refusing to run?02:39
phillwHypothesisFrog: or do you just want a really small foot-print?02:40
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HypothesisFrogphillw well basically, I have an old eeepc with only 2.7Gig of hd space available. I couldn't get the desktop to come up  before, because there was no available hd space. I had to delete the cache to free up 280meg.04:36
MilkManTopic04:48
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MilkMan#lubuntu-offtopic05:09
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phillwHypothesisFrog: there is work in progress for a community edition of lubuntu based on an eeepc15:42
tertudoes anybody know why i'd get massive graphical corruption when trying to run a source game on the rest of the visible display?16:00
* ianorlin doesn't run source games so I can't help you which one specifiaclly team fortress 2?16:00
tertugarry's mod16:01
tertui think they all run on approximately the same codebase though16:02
ianorlinit could also be a driver issue16:02
tertuthat's probably it16:04
tertui'll try installing a newer driver and seeing if that helps16:06
alkuI am using lubuntu 14.04 on Dell E6400. Everything was working fine, today i noticed I am unable to update my system, the update manager vanishes as soon as I click 'update' button. If i go to users i am unable to delete existing or create new, the buttons don't seem to work16:44
tertuso after installing a newer driver it's better16:58
tertuit's still not perfect16:59
comics_ideesany news from lubuntu17:01
phillwcomics_idees: bugs continue to be squashed :)17:02
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comics_ideesI use an old pc is LXLE a better version than Lubuntu ?19:12
holsteincomics_idees: "better" is always a matter of opinion and use case19:13
holsteinlxle is based on ubuntu and/or lubuntu.. lubuntu *is* ubuntu, and has official support and use of all docs etc19:13
phillwcomics_idees: LXLE uses slightly more resources than lubuntu, but the best way is try both and see which you prefer :) There are several community spins based around lubuntu19:13
holsteinyup.. both have live CD's..19:14
comics_ideesxm ok I give it a try19:14
phillwbentoo, amongst others also has LiveCD capability. I'll get the wiki page updated in the comming week and get our community spins more active in saying what they're about.19:15
comics_ideesif I install the deepin package manager in Lubuntu will it become like LXLE?19:19
holsteincomics_idees: i say, if youwant lxle, use lxle19:22
holsteincomics_idees: there are many package managment tools available to ubuntu, and thus, lubuntu..19:22
phillwcomics_idees: lxle --> http://lxle.net/  bento --> http://linuxvillage.org/en/2013/11/bento-ubuntu-remix-rc/ peppermint --> http://peppermintos.com/19:24
=== LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away
comics_ideeshow can I open an Lubuntu terminal and install LXLE with sudo apt-get-install?20:19
holsteincomics_idees: ask them20:20
holsteincomics_idees: lxle is not an ubuntu flavor, so, you will need to add whatever sources they suggest20:20
comics_ideeswell do you suggest to switch lubuntu to lxle to old computer or not?20:32
holsteincomics_idees: i didnt suggest that, actually . i suggest, like phillw , that you look at the both and see for yourself20:34
holsteinany speed benefit from lxle would also have compromises..20:34

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