r4y | You guys must know about mate? | 00:01 |
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LinDol | mate? | 00:02 |
r4y | there's a mate channel | 00:03 |
r4y | http://mate-desktop.org/ | 00:03 |
r4y | Well take care :) | 00:05 |
LinDol | wow! | 00:07 |
LinDol | do you make there? | 00:07 |
r4y | No, I am just a user | 00:08 |
r4y | I have stuck with Ubuntu 10.04 since Unity came out | 00:09 |
LinDol | :) | 00:11 |
r4y | Unity for one bogged down my computer really bad, then menus that used to exist where not there and I couldn't get appearance the way I liked it. | 00:11 |
r4y | Unity requires 3d graphics from what I recently read unless I am mistaken | 00:12 |
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r4y | Have a great day. | 00:14 |
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LinDol | r4y, have a great day ;) | 00:14 |
r4y | :) / bye all | 00:15 |
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ahoneybun_ | hello darkxst | 03:17 |
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ahoneybun | darkxst, should I force a full upgrade? | 04:10 |
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Noskcaj | darkxst, I'll look into the above things on monday. At my grandparents with minimal internet | 05:52 |
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syntroPi | when using evolution why do i always get prompted for the email account login password and why wont it be added to the gnome-keyring. this is very annoying since it always keeps asking me everytime i launch any new program | 19:17 |
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amjjawad | #chair amjjawad | 21:07 |
amjjawad | #startmeeting [UU-Cycle] Ubuntu GNOME Weekly Meeting #3 | 21:08 |
meetingology | Meeting started Sun Jul 6 21:08:56 2014 UTC. The chair is amjjawad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 21:08 |
meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 21:08 |
amjjawad | okay, so it seems I'm the only one here?! | 21:09 |
cla_ | hello | 21:15 |
amjjawad | cla_, hi :) | 21:15 |
amjjawad | Noskcaj, darkxst are you there?! | 21:16 |
cla_ | i am from argetina using ubuntu 14! | 21:16 |
amjjawad | cla_, welcome and good to know that :) | 21:17 |
amjjawad | Good luck with your match with Netherlands :D | 21:17 |
amjjawad | Hmm, can't find anyone ... we have our weekly meeting for Ubuntu GNOME but guess no one is here :( too bad, too sad. | 21:18 |
cla_ | you are kind | 21:18 |
amjjawad | cla_, , thank you :) are you using Ubuntu GNOME?! | 21:18 |
cla_ | I used it it looks very good | 21:18 |
amjjawad | cla_, I'm glad to know that :) | 21:19 |
cla_ | i ve got several pc using it | 21:19 |
amjjawad | amazing | 21:19 |
cla_ | mine is using pardus | 21:20 |
amjjawad | cla_, see this http://ubuntugnome.org/learn-about-ubuntu-gnome-community/ | 21:20 |
cla_ | ok | 21:20 |
cla_ | i haven't got any mistake | 21:21 |
amjjawad | that is great to know | 21:22 |
amjjawad | the link I sent you is useful, I'd suggest to add that to your bookmarks :) | 21:22 |
cla_ | i wanted to say hello, i gat to leave! | 21:22 |
amjjawad | cla_, that is so kind and nice of you :) feel free to join our mailing list or IRC channel :) | 21:23 |
cla_ | bye bye | 21:23 |
satya | hola | 21:24 |
amjjawad | satya, finally!! | 21:24 |
satya | :) | 21:24 |
amjjawad | I was about to KILL YOU ALL :P | 21:24 |
satya | why? | 21:24 |
amjjawad | I'm here for 20 mins :( | 21:24 |
satya | who else is? | 21:25 |
amjjawad | why? hmmm, maybe because we have a meeting? :D | 21:25 |
amjjawad | we're alone ... | 21:25 |
satya | really??? | 21:25 |
amjjawad | I sent an email ... it seems everyone is ZzZz | 21:25 |
satya | hmm... | 21:25 |
amjjawad | okay, let's start | 21:25 |
satya | yup | 21:25 |
amjjawad | I will end it on time which is after 35mins | 21:25 |
satya | sure | 21:26 |
amjjawad | #topic Artwork | 21:26 |
amjjawad | so, Mr. Acting :P | 21:26 |
amjjawad | any update? | 21:26 |
amjjawad | hope you didn't forget that you're acting TL now :D | 21:26 |
satya | nothing. but alfredo had sent you an email | 21:26 |
satya | nope. I remember | 21:26 |
amjjawad | right, which I had no time to read :( I just saw the subject :( | 21:26 |
satya | oh, they were the website mockups | 21:27 |
satya | so if you approve, we can proceed to the work | 21:27 |
amjjawad | I'm reading now | 21:27 |
satya | nicey | 21:27 |
amjjawad | I'm done with reading but didn't open the mockups yet | 21:27 |
amjjawad | we can't vote now :( it is just me and you | 21:27 |
amjjawad | hmmm, it is good idea to play the bad guy here heheheh | 21:28 |
satya | yeah. no issues :D | 21:28 |
amjjawad | they didn't attend so I will vote :P | 21:28 |
amjjawad | just kidding | 21:28 |
satya | lol | 21:28 |
amjjawad | hehehe | 21:28 |
satya | could we also get votes through the ML? | 21:28 |
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amjjawad | satya, interesting = http://cl.ly/image/0Y2S3F0B0O3B/o | 21:30 |
satya | loading | 21:30 |
amjjawad | satya, yeah, why not but here is faster and easier | 21:30 |
satya | where? | 21:30 |
amjjawad | here | 21:30 |
amjjawad | here is better | 21:31 |
amjjawad | the idea is nice | 21:31 |
amjjawad | but I guess we can do better? | 21:31 |
amjjawad | I have few points to share if I may :) | 21:31 |
satya | yeah, sure. would be nice | 21:31 |
amjjawad | (1) the current theme/color we're using ... this is the default for 14.04 ... what if we change that for 14.10 and 15.04 and so on? | 21:32 |
amjjawad | my point is, why not have something that can be used always without the need to change it every cycle? | 21:32 |
satya | we need a consistent brand color and theme | 21:32 |
amjjawad | why? | 21:32 |
satya | alfredo had a document with the color guidelines | 21:32 |
amjjawad | satya, I shall not approve the use of the same wallpaper for 14.10 :P :P | 21:33 |
satya | because we need to be consistent to be recognizable | 21:33 |
amjjawad | satya, okay, but I hope you see my point | 21:33 |
amjjawad | kidding aside, the current wallpaper is for UG 14.04 | 21:33 |
amjjawad | am I right? | 21:33 |
satya | it's not about the wallpaper, but the color palette. if you are talking about the strip there, I guess we can update it every release or so | 21:34 |
amjjawad | I'm talking about the wallpaper of the website | 21:34 |
satya | or have an image which is not the wallpaper | 21:34 |
satya | yeah, I get it, the strip below the header | 21:34 |
amjjawad | yep | 21:34 |
amjjawad | satya, that is the one, phew :D | 21:35 |
amjjawad | are we going to change that every 6 months? here is the Q | 21:35 |
satya | so, here is the idea, either use a completely separate image, or change it every 6 months | 21:35 |
amjjawad | hmm | 21:35 |
satya | using a different image is a good idea | 21:35 |
amjjawad | I can't even use my full authority now :D | 21:35 |
satya | but that must represent Ubuntu GNOME somehow | 21:36 |
amjjawad | I can't vote for that alone | 21:36 |
ahoneybun | o/ | 21:36 |
satya | hello ahoneybun | 21:36 |
amjjawad | ahoneybun, hey :) | 21:36 |
ahoneybun | hey satya amjjawad | 21:36 |
amjjawad | :) | 21:36 |
amjjawad | satya, okay, I won't be the stubborn leader :D I'll be easy going | 21:36 |
satya | so, amjjwad, we can perhaps take the votes through mailing list, since more people can vote there? | 21:37 |
amjjawad | #action decide on the mailing list whether to use a wallpaper that refer to Ubuntu GNOME and change that every 6 months OR have one that remains without the need to change it every cycle | 21:38 |
meetingology | ACTION: decide on the mailing list whether to use a wallpaper that refer to Ubuntu GNOME and change that every 6 months OR have one that remains without the need to change it every cycle | 21:38 |
amjjawad | satya, done ;) | 21:38 |
satya | great :) | 21:38 |
satya | also, about the mockups, I would love if there were 2-3 different types, but you know, designing is not an easy task | 21:38 |
satya | it requires time, and we have very little | 21:38 |
amjjawad | satya, you guys are 'not' supposed to do it alone :( | 21:38 |
amjjawad | here is an issue that we had last cycle | 21:39 |
amjjawad | I have asked your team to communicate :( | 21:39 |
satya | yes? | 21:39 |
amjjawad | yet, it i snot happening :( | 21:39 |
satya | communicate about what? | 21:39 |
amjjawad | you're acting now. If you need anything, you can ask me or Alfredo or Tim | 21:39 |
satya | or to whom? | 21:39 |
amjjawad | Communicate with those who are supposed to work on the new website design :( | 21:39 |
satya | yup. sure. | 21:39 |
amjjawad | and the rest of the team. | 21:40 |
amjjawad | I don't want to but the burden on your shoulders alone, this is not fair. | 21:40 |
amjjawad | and you just stated that you guys have little time :( | 21:40 |
satya | yeah, but again, we sent it to the ML too. | 21:40 |
amjjawad | hmmm | 21:41 |
amjjawad | that is the problem | 21:41 |
satya | that we need a design | 21:41 |
amjjawad | you sent it to Artwork ML | 21:41 |
amjjawad | not the 'main' one | 21:41 |
satya | I sent the mockup to Artwork ML to get the internal feedback first | 21:41 |
amjjawad | anyway, I'd love the idea of having 3 different designs to choose from | 21:41 |
amjjawad | I know | 21:41 |
amjjawad | you need the feedback for your design | 21:41 |
amjjawad | we need 2 more :) | 21:41 |
amjjawad | okay, how long time do we have for this? | 21:42 |
satya | now that alfredo and me have the designs, we can send it to the main ML, and get feedback | 21:42 |
amjjawad | I don't think the website has anything to do with feature freeze or whatever? | 21:42 |
amjjawad | I must check that with darkxst | 21:42 |
satya | I'm not sure, but I think Neil had said he will be busier in coming days | 21:42 |
amjjawad | #action amjjawad satya to check with darkxst about the time we have for Ubuntu GNOME website | 21:42 |
meetingology | ACTION: amjjawad satya to check with darkxst about the time we have for Ubuntu GNOME website | 21:42 |
satya | he can do the work, but it'll be little slower | 21:43 |
amjjawad | action point logged | 21:43 |
amjjawad | if we have time until the end of this cycle, that would be great, I guess | 21:43 |
amjjawad | what do you think? | 21:43 |
satya | yeah, I would prefer the redesign to happen before the release | 21:44 |
satya | I have to ask Neil how fast he can finish it | 21:44 |
satya | but first, I've to get feedback | 21:44 |
amjjawad | Neil will do one design, I guess? | 21:44 |
amjjawad | Okay, back to our team design (yours) | 21:45 |
satya | Neil will code the website | 21:45 |
amjjawad | I like the idea ... simple and short ... but can we do better? I rate it 7/10 maybe | 21:45 |
amjjawad | I'm still not happy with two tabs for docs | 21:45 |
satya | so, what's your idea? | 21:45 |
amjjawad | one tab, just like the community tab | 21:46 |
satya | the two tabs for FAQ and Documentation serve a simple purpose, to make the FAQ more accessible | 21:46 |
amjjawad | wait please | 21:47 |
amjjawad | the current website has: | 21:47 |
amjjawad | 6 tabs | 21:47 |
amjjawad | Home - Screenshots - Docs - Download - Getting Involved - Contact Us | 21:47 |
* satya is checking the current one | 21:47 | |
amjjawad | http://ubuntugnome.org/ | 21:47 |
satya | yeh, when you hover over "Documentation", 2 links appear | 21:48 |
satya | "FAQ" and "Wiki" | 21:48 |
amjjawad | indeed :) | 21:48 |
satya | hover is not something that is available in phones and tablets | 21:49 |
amjjawad | that is why I'm asking to merge (on the new design) both FAQs and Wiki | 21:49 |
satya | yeah, but hover is not available on all devices, so it hurts accessibility | 21:49 |
amjjawad | those who click Docs should find 'FAQs' and 'Wiki' - just like what you guys did with Community | 21:49 |
amjjawad | No hover | 21:49 |
amjjawad | just like what you did with Community on the new design :) | 21:50 |
satya | that will mean a complex navigation with menu and submenu | 21:50 |
amjjawad | satya, :( | 21:50 |
satya | in the mobile view, we would already have the navigation menu collapsed into one icon | 21:50 |
amjjawad | you're not seeing my point | 21:50 |
amjjawad | satya, see this please http://cl.ly/image/0Y2S3F0B0O3B | 21:51 |
amjjawad | why you merged the two tabs here? | 21:51 |
amjjawad | while you don't want to do the same with FAQs and Wiki ? | 21:51 |
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satya | FAQ and Wiki are totally different. They have lots of content. Getting involved and contact us are short. I don't mind if they are separate though | 21:53 |
satya | but merging them doesn't do any harm | 21:53 |
satya | FAQ will be like one page long | 21:54 |
amjjawad | satya, Wiki will have nothing but links :) in fact, one link to our Wiki Area so it is FAQ that will have some teext | 21:54 |
amjjawad | yes and that is all what we need :) | 21:54 |
satya | yeah, that "Documentation" is meant to just link to the "Wiki" page, AFAIK | 21:54 |
satya | isn't it? | 21:55 |
amjjawad | satya, :D | 21:55 |
amjjawad | you're too sleepy :P | 21:55 |
satya | :) | 21:55 |
amjjawad | I wish I could draw that and show you | 21:56 |
amjjawad | that is why I love google hangout | 21:56 |
satya | yeah, that would help me understand | 21:56 |
amjjawad | if we were using it, that would be easier for me to explain | 21:56 |
amjjawad | okay, let's decide that later | 21:56 |
satya | yup. please draw one, so I can better understand | 21:56 |
amjjawad | #action amjjawad satya and the rest of the team to decide about merging Wiki and FAQs under one tab called Docs with the new design | 21:56 |
meetingology | ACTION: amjjawad satya and the rest of the team to decide about merging Wiki and FAQs under one tab called Docs with the new design | 21:56 |
satya | right now, seems I'm confused | 21:57 |
amjjawad | I know | 21:57 |
amjjawad | so let's leave it for now | 21:57 |
amjjawad | anything else before we end the meeting? | 21:57 |
amjjawad | what I do love about the new design is the bottom :D | 21:58 |
amjjawad | footer | 21:58 |
amjjawad | it is WOW | 21:58 |
satya | yeah, alfredo wanted to have a beautiful footer : | 21:58 |
satya | : | 21:58 |
satya | :D | 21:58 |
amjjawad | yeah, it is so nice | 21:58 |
satya | so, apart from the navigation bar, what else? | 21:59 |
amjjawad | the bar + the wallpapers | 21:59 |
amjjawad | that is all for now | 21:59 |
amjjawad | it is nice and simple | 21:59 |
satya | ok. about a slideshow, we don't want a slideshow as it will not work properly on a mobile device | 21:59 |
amjjawad | #action we should have 3 different designs for the new website not only one | 21:59 |
meetingology | ACTION: we should have 3 different designs for the new website not only one | 21:59 |
amjjawad | satya, -1 for slideshow | 22:00 |
amjjawad | #action no slidesshow nor heavy stuff on the new website design | 22:00 |
meetingology | ACTION: no slidesshow nor heavy stuff on the new website design | 22:00 |
satya | so, I'll send a mail to the main ML tomorrow with the current mockups, and our requirements if someone wants to submit new mockups | 22:00 |
amjjawad | what else? | 22:00 |
amjjawad | good call :D | 22:01 |
satya | about including themes | 22:01 |
amjjawad | #action satya to send an email to the general mailing list about the mockups UG Artwork Team has done | 22:01 |
meetingology | ACTION: satya to send an email to the general mailing list about the mockups UG Artwork Team has done | 22:01 |
amjjawad | okay, what else? | 22:01 |
satya | including themes :) | 22:01 |
amjjawad | a side from the notes I have discussed, I don't have any other problem with the design :D | 22:01 |
amjjawad | themes? | 22:02 |
amjjawad | what themes? website themes? | 22:02 |
satya | no, GTK themes | 22:02 |
satya | to include in the default installation | 22:02 |
satya | last time we talked about having moka and numix | 22:02 |
amjjawad | right | 22:04 |
amjjawad | I don't mind anything nice | 22:04 |
amjjawad | but I do want UG to have some themes by default | 22:04 |
satya | so, should I proceed to talk with Sam Hewitt about having Moka? | 22:04 |
amjjawad | we already agreed about that last meeting | 22:04 |
amjjawad | Ohh, Sam | 22:04 |
amjjawad | hehe | 22:05 |
satya | :) | 22:05 |
amjjawad | he had once negative feedback about UG | 22:05 |
amjjawad | but I guess nothing personal | 22:05 |
amjjawad | we had a quick chat on UG G+ Page | 22:05 |
satya | lol :D | 22:05 |
satya | what did he say? | 22:05 |
amjjawad | I forgot | 22:05 |
amjjawad | he wasn't happy with something ... can't remember | 22:05 |
satya | may be due to old Gnome version | 22:06 |
amjjawad | anyway, how many themes can add by default? | 22:06 |
amjjawad | we have only one which is the default, right? I mean for 14.04 | 22:06 |
amjjawad | if we could add 2-3, that would be super great | 22:06 |
satya | there aren't many good themes AFAIK | 22:06 |
satya | elementary, Moka, Numix, Iris are all I know | 22:07 |
satya | elementary is not suitable for GNOME | 22:07 |
satya | we can have Moka, Numix and Iris | 22:07 |
amjjawad | at least, we give some options to our users | 22:07 |
satya | yeah :D | 22:07 |
amjjawad | from what I have seen so far, the only negative feedback we do have is the look and feel | 22:07 |
amjjawad | most of the feedback stating that our system is rock solid | 22:08 |
amjjawad | and I can confirm that | 22:08 |
amjjawad | but it is the look and feel | 22:08 |
amjjawad | that even myself not happy with | 22:08 |
amjjawad | shh, don't tell anyone :P | 22:08 |
satya | yeah, but that's the default GNOME look. what we can do :( | 22:08 |
satya | :) | 22:08 |
amjjawad | so, I guess this is all about this week meeting ... anything else before I go? | 22:08 |
satya | do we want to include any GNOME shell theme? | 22:09 |
amjjawad | satya, we must find a way to include more themes and nice wallappers | 22:09 |
satya | wait, I have few things to say | 22:09 |
amjjawad | satya, ok :) | 22:09 |
satya | I don't worry about wallpapers, I'm sure, they'll be plenty | 22:09 |
amjjawad | +1 | 22:09 |
satya | so, do we want to also include Gnome Shell themes and icon themes? | 22:10 |
satya | for icon themes, we could include Moka, elementary Xfce, Numix Circle etc. | 22:11 |
amjjawad | more icons themes = yes | 22:11 |
amjjawad | GNOME Shell Themes? | 22:11 |
satya | yeah? | 22:11 |
satya | about shell themes, guess lots of themes aren't properly maintained | 22:11 |
amjjawad | I'm too tired to figure out what we are talking about | 22:11 |
amjjawad | the one that if we change, the look of the system will change? | 22:12 |
satya | one moment | 22:12 |
satya | http://satya164.deviantart.com/art/Gnome-Shell-Elegance-Colors-305966388 | 22:12 |
satya | it's the Gnome Shell theme I actively maintain | 22:13 |
amjjawad | so I was right | 22:13 |
amjjawad | the one that if we change it, the whole thing will be changed | 22:13 |
amjjawad | sure, that would be lovely | 22:13 |
satya | good. so my point, we don't have many GNOME shell themes which are actively maintained | 22:14 |
satya | if we include the one I linked above, I know that it'll be actively maintained | 22:14 |
satya | also, it's an app, not a theme | 22:15 |
amjjawad | I don't mind | 22:15 |
amjjawad | we need to talk with darkxst about that | 22:15 |
amjjawad | #action satya to check with darkxst about GNOME Shell Themes and Icons | 22:15 |
meetingology | ACTION: satya to check with darkxst about GNOME Shell Themes and Icons | 22:15 |
amjjawad | what else? :) | 22:15 |
satya | so, about the wallpaper contest | 22:15 |
satya | there is no progress yet. | 22:15 |
amjjawad | yeah, we agreed to start that | 22:16 |
satya | but I think I should start this week | 22:16 |
amjjawad | it is okay, no rush | 22:16 |
amjjawad | that is good | 22:16 |
satya | so, we decided to use flickr, and 2 submissions per user, right? | 22:16 |
satya | how about we make it like that, have 5 different genres, and choose 2 wallpapers from each genre? | 22:17 |
satya | like nature, city, abstract etc.? | 22:17 |
satya | to have some variety in the wallpapers | 22:17 |
amjjawad | hmm | 22:17 |
amjjawad | that is good idea | 22:17 |
amjjawad | and 1 to 2 submit per user | 22:18 |
satya | yup :) | 22:18 |
amjjawad | the total is 10, right? | 22:18 |
satya | yeah, I think so | 22:18 |
satya | so, I shall talk to alfredo and proceed with the idea then? | 22:18 |
amjjawad | #action have 5 different genres, and choose 2 wallpapers from each genre for the wallpaper contest satya | 22:19 |
meetingology | ACTION: have 5 different genres, and choose 2 wallpapers from each genre for the wallpaper contest satya | 22:19 |
amjjawad | yep ;) | 22:19 |
satya | great. | 22:19 |
amjjawad | :D | 22:19 |
satya | nothing else, right? | 22:19 |
amjjawad | hahaha | 22:19 |
amjjawad | I'm done :D | 22:19 |
satya | okay | 22:19 |
satya | do you want ownership of this http://scrollback.io/ubuntu-gnome ? | 22:19 |
amjjawad | what is this | 22:20 |
satya | scrollback room for ubuntu gnome | 22:21 |
satya | it is integrated with our irc | 22:21 |
amjjawad | no idea what is it | 22:21 |
satya | currently I own that room | 22:21 |
satya | it's a chat client :D | 22:21 |
amjjawad | but I have enough stuff to be the owner of hehe | 22:21 |
amjjawad | ohhh | 22:21 |
amjjawad | I see the stuff I'm sending here | 22:22 |
satya | remeber, I was talking about having it on our site? | 22:22 |
amjjawad | are you trying to say ... we add that to our website? | 22:22 |
satya | yeah, as a chat widget | 22:22 |
satya | which will load on demand | 22:22 |
satya | so as not to slow the page | 22:22 |
satya | but it uses appcache anyways, so it won't be slow from the 2nd time | 22:23 |
satya | note that that is an open source project | 22:23 |
satya | and I work for them :D | 22:23 |
amjjawad | if this is fast and does not require lots of stuff, why not | 22:23 |
amjjawad | ohh | 22:24 |
amjjawad | nice | 22:24 |
satya | :D | 22:24 |
satya | okay, so that's it then :) | 22:24 |
satya | we can have the widget on the community page | 22:25 |
satya | http://mozillaindia.org | 22:26 |
satya | they are using it | 22:26 |
amjjawad | #action satya to check with the rest of UG team about having: https://scrollback.io/ubuntu-gnome on our website (new) or not | 22:26 |
meetingology | ACTION: satya to check with the rest of UG team about having: https://scrollback.io/ubuntu-gnome on our website (new) or not | 22:26 |
satya | so, I don't have anything else to say | 22:26 |
amjjawad | okay then :) | 22:28 |
amjjawad | thanks a lot | 22:28 |
amjjawad | that was 1-2-1 meeting hehe | 22:28 |
satya | :) | 22:28 |
satya | hey, one thing | 22:28 |
satya | about rescheduling | 22:28 |
satya | I asked if we could have it on saturday | 22:28 |
amjjawad | right | 22:29 |
amjjawad | #action amjjawad to check with darkxst about doing the weekly meetings on Sat instead of Sun | 22:29 |
satya | so... | 22:29 |
meetingology | ACTION: amjjawad to check with darkxst about doing the weekly meetings on Sat instead of Sun | 22:29 |
satya | nice | 22:29 |
amjjawad | ;) | 22:29 |
amjjawad | #endmeeting | 22:29 |
meetingology | Meeting ended Sun Jul 6 22:30:29 2014 UTC. | 22:29 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-gnome/2014/ubuntu-gnome.2014-07-06-21.08.moin.txt | 22:29 |
satya | oka. good night then | 22:29 |
amjjawad | good night, my friend | 22:30 |
amjjawad | thanks a lot | 22:30 |
satya | byee.. | 22:30 |
amjjawad | cya | 22:30 |
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