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bluesabreelfy: ogm video?02:35
ochosidid an upgrade recently from 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04, no big troubles apart from indicators being broken14:21
bluesabre12.04 to 14.04 is pretty painless too14:32
ochosiyeah, actually the indicators were the only thing i noticed14:32
elfyhey you two :)14:55
ochosihey elfy 14:56
* bluesabre hides14:56
ochosiwhat's clickin?14:56
elfyharddrive14:57
ochosiget an ssd then14:57
elfy:p14:57
bluesabre:D15:02
elfybluesabre: was a sound file in parole15:05
ochosibut what format?15:06
ochosiogg? mp3?15:06
ochosiideally, if you could provide the file, that would help15:06
elfymp315:07
elfydoesn't appear to be 'a' file15:08
ochosiwait, what is it, if it's not a file?15:08
elfysorry - not 'a specific' file 15:08
elfynot just the one15:08
ochosiah15:09
elfydidn't notice yesterday tbh15:09
ochosiso it happens with all mp3s but not other file formats?15:09
elfyaaah15:10
elfywoohoo - nothing for 'us' to worry about - same behaviour everywhere here15:10
ochosiyou mean totem?15:11
elfyclementine15:12
elfygmb15:12
elfyexaile15:12
ochosiah, not sure what clementine uses as backend15:12
ochosibut gmb and exaile usually use gstreamer15:12
ochosi(like parole)15:12
elfylibxine I think15:12
ochosiah, xine, that still exists too15:13
elfybut it's definitely something I've had an update for in unicorn 15:14
elfysame files play fine in trusty 15:14
elfyno way for me to remember though - seeking in music tracks is not something I generally do :)15:15
ochosimhm15:15
elfyno idea what I'd raise a bug report against though 15:16
elfymight ask in -bugs 15:17
ochosiyeah, if it's multiple backends i'm not sure15:17
ochosiotherwise i'd have suggested gstreamer15:17
elfyyea15:17
elfyoh 15:23
elfyso clementine doesn't have xine as dependencies but gstreamer15:23
elfyso gstreamer I guess15:23
ochosiyup15:24
bluesabresounds weird15:26
bluesabreI'll take a look at that later and see if its anything obvious15:27
elfysounds like the sort of thing I end up with :p15:27
elfyoriginally thought I'd done something to the hdd - did a whole lot of deleting media files 15:28
elfybut it works ok in trusty15:28
bluesabrehm15:28
* ochosi is happy it works in trusty15:28
elfybluesabre: I'll do a clean install later if I get chance and see if it is local 15:29
bluesabrecool, thanks elfy15:30
elfyso I'd not look at it if I was you just yet :)15:30
ochosiyup, let's get the new dev release of parole ready first ;)15:30
bluesabreyup15:30
ochosibluesabre: btw, not sure satyajit contacted you already, but he wants to split the shimmer-themes package up (again)15:31
ochosireason is that they want to ship numix also in ubuntu-gnome15:31
bluesabreah15:31
ochosianother issue that i'm considering at the moment is dropping support for albatross and bluebird (hence also removing them from our default install)15:31
bluesabreany reason they cannot ship shimmer-themes in ubuntu-gnome?15:31
ochosii simply don't have the time resources to patch all the gtk3 changes up with each release15:32
bluesabrebluebird was nice, but stopped getting love15:32
ochosidunno, i guess that's something to discuss with the ubuntu gnome folks15:32
bluesabreshouldn't they be easier to maintain once ported to sass?15:32
ochosiyeah, once ported...15:32
bluesabre:)15:32
ochosiit doesn't sound like fun to me to rewrite entire themes in sass15:32
* bluesabre does not know what that entails15:32
ochosii'd rather work on more essential things than re-doing all our themes15:33
bluesabreyeah15:33
bluesabrethat's okay, since Greybird and Numix are both top-notch15:33
ochosiyeah, rather ship two themes of quality than quantity15:34
ochosiso maybe we can set up utopic to carry either a reduced shimmer-themes package (greybird and numix) or two separate packages15:41
bluesabreyeah15:42
elfybiab15:43
bluesabreknome: please add importance to this bug15:44
bluesabrehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/menulibre/+bug/132340515:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 1323405 in menulibre (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport menulibre-2.0.4 to trusty" [Undecided,New]15:44
bluesabreit continues to be ignored15:44
ochosi:/15:45
bluesabreLogan_, micahg, I've tried other sponsors, if you guys happen to be about, please consider uploading the above package to trusty-proposed15:45
ochosi+115:46
elfybluesabre: must be local - seeks fine in live session once codecs are installed15:51
ochosiphew15:51
ochosigood15:51
elfykind of 15:51
elfyit'll really annoy me now I know and I'll need to do a clean install :p15:51
ochosihehe15:51
elfybit early in the cycle for that :)15:52
elfythat said I have another more annoying issue at the moment - had nvidia, reinstalled nouveau, reinstalled nvidia and it carries on using nouveau 15:53
elfy10 seconds of screen noise every boot15:53
ali1234make sure that gpu-manager didn't delete your xorg.conf15:55
ali1234it likes to do that all the time15:55
elfythat'll be it then15:56
ali1234it makes a backup15:56
ali1234i have no idea why it does this but it is really annoying15:56
elfycouldn't have had one - no xorg.conf.anything.at.all15:56
elfyno xorg.conf in trusty either and that boots with nvidia15:57
ali1234i dunno then16:01
elfyno - me neither :)16:02
knomebluesabre, done17:12
bluesabreknome, thanks18:17
knomebluesabre, when's your board?18:21
bluesabrethe 14th18:22
knomemhm18:23
knomeare you by any chance running for bugsquad privileges as well?18:23
knomebrainwash, ali1234: you too ^18:23
bluesabreI probably should18:27
knomeat least that would be useful, avoiding bottlenecking on only a few people having the privileges18:29
knomenot that i mind doing that, but i'm not always available (much less now than before!)18:29
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bluesabre:)18:59
ali1234my network browsing in thunar is broken19:08
ali1234it was working fine before i reinstalled19:08
ali1234Failed to open "/ on ". Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus).19:09
ali1234i don't understand this :(19:10
ali1234gvfsd is crashing19:13
micahgbluesabre: do the other bugs have test cases19:19
micahgI'll try to take a look a little later tonight19:19
bluesabremicahg, they do not, I'll add those as well19:20
bluesabrewhere would you prefer the bug test cases listed?19:20
micahgbluesabre: I think the SRU team will want test cases for all the bugs fixed19:23
bluesabremicahg, got it19:24
micahgthey can be in the individual bugs19:24
micahgall the numbers will be linked in the upload19:24
ali1234well i found the issue19:24
ali1234gsettings crashes if you modify XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable19:24
ali1234this takes out gvfsd too19:25
bluesabreoh, that's fun19:29
ali1234according to the spec what i am doing is valid19:37
ali1234http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html19:37
ali1234according to my interpretation anyway19:37
bluesabreali1234, I may have a fix for https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10717 now21:09
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10717 in Display Settings "Display settings mixes up monitor EDID names" [Normal,New]21:09
bluesabrehttps://github.com/bluesabre/xfce4-settings/commit/1c828cc780b6742e0e19a002392f6f6ae8a337ee21:09
ali1234looking...21:15
ochosibluesabre: you should really just set up the branch in git.xfce though ;)21:23
ochosibluesabre: works for me, although the "friendly name" is really odd here21:27
ochosiit says ENC 24''21:27
ochosiand the number doesn't really cut it for me21:27
ochosiit might work for vbox, but everywhere else it's confusing imo21:27
ochosihttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-07-06-232810.php21:28
ochosiin this particular example it looks like a product code or a bug21:29
ochosii guess if the EDID friendly name is friendlier it looks better, but i'm still a bit against adding those numbers...21:29
ochosiat least in the displays, we could leave them there in the combobox if you want21:29
ochosie.g. ENC 24'' (1/2)21:30
bluesabreochosi: last few times I tried to set up a users branch in git.xfce failed21:36
ochosihm, strange21:37
ochosiit should be fairly simple21:37
ochosijust set up your git-config a tiny bit by adding the private branch and push to it, done.21:37
bluesabregotta run for a few21:37
bluesabreI'll try again when I get back21:37
ochosialrighty21:37
bluesabreochosi: you21:42
bluesabre're welcome to adjust the numbering system21:42
bluesabre:)21:42
bluesabrebbl21:42
ochosibluesabre: could we retire this page plz? http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/parole21:42
bluesabreyes plz21:42
ochosiunless you care about it, i'll just add a link to the docs-page21:42
ochosi(for redirect a plugin is needed, and i dont have sudo powers there)21:42
bluesabreI'll look into fixing the link on releases.xfce21:43
bluesabrebbiab21:43
ochosihehe, greybird is referenced in wikipedia as "xfce theme": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce21:52
ochosii guess that means it's true :p21:52
ali1234bluesabre: why XfceOutputInfo? why not just store the index?21:59
ochosibluesabre: i wonder if the numbers are still necessary or even helpful (in vbox) to identify a display when you actually see the highlight in the selected display in the DND widget and also in the identity popup... i guess i'd merge your branch and consider marking as wontfix (or am i not seeing a benefit of the numbers here?)22:51
ochosieither way, time for bed. night everyone22:52
bluesabreali1234, just made it easy for the time23:07
bluesabreI'll fix it23:08
bluesabre:)23:08
bluesabreochosi: the numbers appear in the combobox, in the DND, and in the popup23:16
ali1234the numbers -> name mapping can change at any time23:19
ali1234see https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072523:19
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10725 in Window Buttons "Setting "Show windows from all monitors" stops working correctly after changing monitor layout" [Normal,New]23:19
ali1234comment 11 onwards23:20
bluesabreFixed my crap code, that looks annoying23:45
bluesabreI think I'll update the EDID vendor list23:49

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