[02:35] elfy: ogm video? [14:21] did an upgrade recently from 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04, no big troubles apart from indicators being broken [14:32] 12.04 to 14.04 is pretty painless too [14:32] yeah, actually the indicators were the only thing i noticed [14:55] hey you two :) [14:56] hey elfy [14:56] * bluesabre hides [14:56] what's clickin? [14:57] harddrive [14:57] get an ssd then [14:57] :p [15:02] :D [15:05] bluesabre: was a sound file in parole [15:06] but what format? [15:06] ogg? mp3? [15:06] ideally, if you could provide the file, that would help [15:07] mp3 [15:08] doesn't appear to be 'a' file [15:08] wait, what is it, if it's not a file? [15:08] sorry - not 'a specific' file [15:08] not just the one [15:09] ah [15:09] didn't notice yesterday tbh [15:09] so it happens with all mp3s but not other file formats? [15:10] aaah [15:10] woohoo - nothing for 'us' to worry about - same behaviour everywhere here [15:11] you mean totem? [15:12] clementine [15:12] gmb [15:12] exaile [15:12] ah, not sure what clementine uses as backend [15:12] but gmb and exaile usually use gstreamer [15:12] (like parole) [15:12] libxine I think [15:13] ah, xine, that still exists too [15:14] but it's definitely something I've had an update for in unicorn [15:14] same files play fine in trusty [15:15] no way for me to remember though - seeking in music tracks is not something I generally do :) [15:15] mhm [15:16] no idea what I'd raise a bug report against though [15:17] might ask in -bugs [15:17] yeah, if it's multiple backends i'm not sure [15:17] otherwise i'd have suggested gstreamer [15:17] yea [15:23] oh [15:23] so clementine doesn't have xine as dependencies but gstreamer [15:23] so gstreamer I guess [15:24] yup [15:26] sounds weird [15:27] I'll take a look at that later and see if its anything obvious [15:27] sounds like the sort of thing I end up with :p [15:28] originally thought I'd done something to the hdd - did a whole lot of deleting media files [15:28] but it works ok in trusty [15:28] hm [15:28] * ochosi is happy it works in trusty [15:29] bluesabre: I'll do a clean install later if I get chance and see if it is local [15:30] cool, thanks elfy [15:30] so I'd not look at it if I was you just yet :) [15:30] yup, let's get the new dev release of parole ready first ;) [15:30] yup [15:31] bluesabre: btw, not sure satyajit contacted you already, but he wants to split the shimmer-themes package up (again) [15:31] reason is that they want to ship numix also in ubuntu-gnome [15:31] ah [15:31] another issue that i'm considering at the moment is dropping support for albatross and bluebird (hence also removing them from our default install) [15:31] any reason they cannot ship shimmer-themes in ubuntu-gnome? [15:32] i simply don't have the time resources to patch all the gtk3 changes up with each release [15:32] bluebird was nice, but stopped getting love [15:32] dunno, i guess that's something to discuss with the ubuntu gnome folks [15:32] shouldn't they be easier to maintain once ported to sass? [15:32] yeah, once ported... [15:32] :) [15:32] it doesn't sound like fun to me to rewrite entire themes in sass [15:32] * bluesabre does not know what that entails [15:33] i'd rather work on more essential things than re-doing all our themes [15:33] yeah [15:33] that's okay, since Greybird and Numix are both top-notch [15:34] yeah, rather ship two themes of quality than quantity [15:41] so maybe we can set up utopic to carry either a reduced shimmer-themes package (greybird and numix) or two separate packages [15:42] yeah [15:43] biab [15:44] knome: please add importance to this bug [15:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/menulibre/+bug/1323405 [15:44] Ubuntu bug 1323405 in menulibre (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport menulibre-2.0.4 to trusty" [Undecided,New] [15:44] it continues to be ignored [15:45] :/ [15:45] Logan_, micahg, I've tried other sponsors, if you guys happen to be about, please consider uploading the above package to trusty-proposed [15:46] +1 [15:51] bluesabre: must be local - seeks fine in live session once codecs are installed [15:51] phew [15:51] good [15:51] kind of [15:51] it'll really annoy me now I know and I'll need to do a clean install :p [15:51] hehe [15:52] bit early in the cycle for that :) [15:53] that said I have another more annoying issue at the moment - had nvidia, reinstalled nouveau, reinstalled nvidia and it carries on using nouveau [15:53] 10 seconds of screen noise every boot [15:55] make sure that gpu-manager didn't delete your xorg.conf [15:55] it likes to do that all the time [15:56] that'll be it then [15:56] it makes a backup [15:56] i have no idea why it does this but it is really annoying [15:56] couldn't have had one - no xorg.conf.anything.at.all [15:57] no xorg.conf in trusty either and that boots with nvidia [16:01] i dunno then [16:02] no - me neither :) [17:12] bluesabre, done [18:17] knome, thanks [18:21] bluesabre, when's your board? [18:22] the 14th [18:23] mhm [18:23] are you by any chance running for bugsquad privileges as well? [18:23] brainwash, ali1234: you too ^ [18:27] I probably should [18:29] at least that would be useful, avoiding bottlenecking on only a few people having the privileges [18:29] not that i mind doing that, but i'm not always available (much less now than before!) === holstein_ is now known as holstein [18:59] :) [19:08] my network browsing in thunar is broken [19:08] it was working fine before i reinstalled [19:09] Failed to open "/ on ". Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus). [19:10] i don't understand this :( [19:13] gvfsd is crashing [19:19] bluesabre: do the other bugs have test cases [19:19] I'll try to take a look a little later tonight [19:20] micahg, they do not, I'll add those as well [19:20] where would you prefer the bug test cases listed? [19:23] bluesabre: I think the SRU team will want test cases for all the bugs fixed [19:24] micahg, got it [19:24] they can be in the individual bugs [19:24] all the numbers will be linked in the upload [19:24] well i found the issue [19:24] gsettings crashes if you modify XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable [19:25] this takes out gvfsd too [19:29] oh, that's fun [19:37] according to the spec what i am doing is valid [19:37] http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html [19:37] according to my interpretation anyway [21:09] ali1234, I may have a fix for https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10717 now [21:09] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10717 in Display Settings "Display settings mixes up monitor EDID names" [Normal,New] [21:09] https://github.com/bluesabre/xfce4-settings/commit/1c828cc780b6742e0e19a002392f6f6ae8a337ee [21:15] looking... [21:23] bluesabre: you should really just set up the branch in git.xfce though ;) [21:27] bluesabre: works for me, although the "friendly name" is really odd here [21:27] it says ENC 24'' [21:27] and the number doesn't really cut it for me [21:27] it might work for vbox, but everywhere else it's confusing imo [21:28] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-07-06-232810.php [21:29] in this particular example it looks like a product code or a bug [21:29] i guess if the EDID friendly name is friendlier it looks better, but i'm still a bit against adding those numbers... [21:29] at least in the displays, we could leave them there in the combobox if you want [21:30] e.g. ENC 24'' (1/2) [21:36] ochosi: last few times I tried to set up a users branch in git.xfce failed [21:37] hm, strange [21:37] it should be fairly simple [21:37] just set up your git-config a tiny bit by adding the private branch and push to it, done. [21:37] gotta run for a few [21:37] I'll try again when I get back [21:37] alrighty [21:42] ochosi: you [21:42] 're welcome to adjust the numbering system [21:42] :) [21:42] bbl [21:42] bluesabre: could we retire this page plz? http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/parole [21:42] yes plz [21:42] unless you care about it, i'll just add a link to the docs-page [21:42] (for redirect a plugin is needed, and i dont have sudo powers there) [21:43] I'll look into fixing the link on releases.xfce [21:43] bbiab [21:52] hehe, greybird is referenced in wikipedia as "xfce theme": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce [21:52] i guess that means it's true :p [21:59] bluesabre: why XfceOutputInfo? why not just store the index? [22:51] bluesabre: i wonder if the numbers are still necessary or even helpful (in vbox) to identify a display when you actually see the highlight in the selected display in the DND widget and also in the identity popup... i guess i'd merge your branch and consider marking as wontfix (or am i not seeing a benefit of the numbers here?) [22:52] either way, time for bed. night everyone [23:07] ali1234, just made it easy for the time [23:08] I'll fix it [23:08] :) [23:16] ochosi: the numbers appear in the combobox, in the DND, and in the popup [23:19] the numbers -> name mapping can change at any time [23:19] see https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10725 [23:19] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10725 in Window Buttons "Setting "Show windows from all monitors" stops working correctly after changing monitor layout" [Normal,New] [23:20] comment 11 onwards [23:45] Fixed my crap code, that looks annoying [23:49] I think I'll update the EDID vendor list