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antonfireIs there any non-workaround way to set up different custom flags for the us and us(dvorak) keyboard layouts?10:52
antonfire(or set up some other way to distinguish them which is visible in the toolbar without having to hold the mouse over the icon and wait for the tooltip to come up)10:57
dj_beiruti have changed the mac address of eth1 from the menu in lubuntu and it is working fine. the changes that are made is not visible in /etc/networking/interfaces. anyone got an idea where the change is stored?14:17
LubuntuenfrsvpHello17:43
holsteinhello17:43
Lubuntuenfrsvp want to change language on Lubuntu could you help me please17:44
rafaellagunaLubuntuenfrsvp, it's easy17:44
rafaellagunayou must install the additional languages first17:44
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/LanguageSupport looks like it17:45
Lubuntuenfrsvp I'm french and I've never used linux system.17:45
rafaellagunaonce you do it, just re-login and at the upper right corner you can change the language for the whole desktop17:45
rafaellagunause "Menu / Preferences / Language support"17:46
LubuntuenfrsvpThe change of language takes place with an internet connection?17:46
rafaellagunayes, you need it to download the language packages17:46
holsteinLubuntuenfrsvp: after "installing additional languages".. however you want to do that17:46
Lubuntuenfrsvpdo not see the icon of the Wi-Fi suddenly I could not have access to Internet17:47
rafaellagunathere's a button "Install / Remove Languages...". Can you see it?17:47
rafaellagunacan you browse? the icon does not appear because of an error, but it doesn't affect the connection17:48
LubuntuenfrsvpI launched Lubuntu live and I do not see the icon Wi-Fi in the taskbar at the bottom right17:48
rafaellagunano, it's the error I told you, but Internet is still there :)17:49
LubuntuenfrsvpNon17:49
rafaellagunacan't you browse?17:50
rafaellagunaare you cabled or wifi?17:50
LubuntuenfrsvpWhen I try to START on Firefox no connection ...17:50
Lubuntuenfrsvpi'm in wifi...17:50
rafaellagunaok, do this. menu / run17:50
rafaellagunaand type "nm-applet" (without the quotes)17:51
rafaellagunabut don't install nothing in Live mode, it won't remember nothing :D17:51
LubuntuenfrsvpThank you, in your opinion how many gigabytes do I need for a proper functioning of Lubuntu?17:52
phillw384 Mb RAM, 5 GB Hard disk is about the absolute minimum17:53
Lubuntuenfrsvp ok I am running windows 7 if I install Linux on another partition could I have the choice to boot Linux or Windows chosen?17:56
rafaellagunayes17:56
rafaellagunayou'll see a menu where you can choose one or other17:56
LubuntuenfrsvpEven if it's on the same hard drive? (but not on the same partition)17:58
phillwyes17:58
rafaellagunayes, Linux lets you choose :)17:58
rafaellagunaI have Windows XP in a little partition (I use it for fixing my phone), and Lubuntu17:59
Lubuntuenfrsvpthank you verri mych !18:00
rafaellagunaYou're welcome :)18:00
Lubuntuenfrsvprafaella are you a girl ?18:00
rafaellaguna:D no, I'm Rafael18:00
LubuntuenfrsvpHahaha18:00
wxlhahahah18:00
wxla/s/l?18:00
Lubuntuenfrsvpokey18:01
rafaellagunabut there're girls here18:01
Lubuntuenfrsvpthank you men (y)18:01
rafaellagunathank you for coming18:01
LubuntuenfrsvpWhere are the pretty girls who use linux?18:01
rafaellagunaand don't worry, if you have a problem, just tell us18:01
Lubuntuenfrsvphaha ^^18:01
wxlactually18:01
rafaellagunaoh, I know a few ;)18:01
Lubuntuenfrsvpok thank you men !!!!!!!!!!18:01
Lubuntuenfrsvp The game "Dofus" works well on Linux?18:02
Lubuntuenfrsvphttp://download.dofus.com/full/linux/18:03
rafaellagunaI never played it :|18:03
rafaellagunabut if you run Windows 7 you have a nice computer, so I'm sure it will18:04
LubuntuenfrsvpThank you men !!!!!!!!!!18:05
Lubuntuenfrsvpmy name is Caphomial ok?18:05
rafaellagunagrâce à vous18:05
Lubuntuenfrsvpnext time i use "Caphomial" Nickname18:05
rafaellagunaok18:05
Lubuntuenfrsvpje suis francais18:05
rafaellagunawe're everywhere :)18:06
Lubuntuenfrsvpha ha ha ! (OROSHIMARU VOICE)18:06
Lubuntuenfrsvpthank you18:07
Lubuntuenfrsvpi go to install it18:07
Lubuntuenfrsvpwith 30 gb its good ?18:07
rafaellagunausually you make a partition for Linux itself, with 10gb it's enough for all apps, and another for your personal data18:08
rafaellagunathis way you can remove your Lubuntu Linux and put another or upgrade it safe18:09
Shawn286howdy19:23
Shawn286I have a strange problem19:24
Shawn286I just preppared an 8 GB usb flash drive with lubuntu using lili usb creator, my core i7 laptop boots from it with no problem, yet my pentium4 for just has a black screen with a blank blinking cursor19:25
Shawn286oops, keyboard problem19:26
Shawn286my pentium 4 for some reason just has that black screen with the blank blinking cursor19:26
Shawn286might someone be able to help me with this problem?19:26
wxlShawn286: you sure your bios is set to boot to it?19:26
Shawn286yes19:26
holstein!nomodeset19:27
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:27
Shawn286I double checked, and I set the lexar usb flash drive to boot19:27
Shawn286I am able to boot from another flash drive that has linux mint 32-bit 17 "qiana"19:27
Shawn286and it runs that with no problem, although I want to give the lighter lubuntu a go19:27
holsteinShawn286: you can install lxde there.. or try the mode isuggested19:28
wxldid you try what holstein suggested, Shawn286 /19:28
Shawn286seeing as he just typed it, I just read it19:28
wxlalso how much ram do you have on that machine?19:28
Shawn2861 GB19:28
wxlshould be sufficient. probably a video issue in any case19:29
Shawn286video??19:29
wxlyep19:29
Shawn286why would it be a video issue19:29
wxlbecause it uses graphics? :)19:29
Shawn286...19:29
wxltry using the alternate installer and i bet you have no issues19:29
holsteinShawn286: driver support. its quite common19:29
Shawn286thats not a real answer19:29
Shawn286oh19:29
Shawn286it appears that it wont boot lubuntu though19:29
holsteinShawn286: this is the real anwser.. try the nomodeset.. it will provide a "safe graphics mode".. have you tried it?19:30
Shawn286I have also tried with the p=endrive linux creator19:30
Shawn286the graphics are descent19:30
wxlit's not about decent19:30
holsteinShawn286: sure.. if the stick boots, then the stick is not the issue.. you say it works on another machine.. correct? the *same* stick?19:30
wxlsometimes having decent graphics is a problem19:30
Shawn286yes19:30
holsteinShawn286: its about *support* of the graphics.. for supporting linux specificially19:30
wxlagain, try the alternate installer19:30
Shawn286I also used the same stick to boot other operating systems19:30
holsteinShawn286: so, dont try and fix the stick since it works fine19:30
Shawn286I wasn't about to..19:31
Shawn286if you say its video..then how come ubuntu boots with no issue..from the same drive..19:33
Shawn286I'm not even getting a linux bootloader or grub loader19:33
Shawn286on lubuntu19:33
holsteinShawn286: differnent kernels.. friend.. and im not saying its graphics.. im saying its commonly graphics issue, and offering a way to test that19:33
holstein!nomodeset19:33
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:33
holsteinShawn286: you can install lxde into any ubuntu that you are booting there..19:34
holsteinShawn286: lubuntu *is* ubuntu.. you can test the lubuntu iso. but you say the stick is working19:34
Shawn286but lubuntu isn't19:34
holsteinShawn286: yes.. it is. lubuntu *is* ubuntu19:35
holstein!flavors19:35
ubottu!Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.19:35
Shawn286the pentium 4 runs on an Intel Desktop Board with an 82845G/GL/GE Chipset19:35
holsteinShawn286: ok.. have you tried nomodeset?19:35
Shawn286how do I go about that?19:35
holstein!nomodeset19:35
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:35
holsteinShawn286: i read the link above and follow the instructions ^^19:36
Shawn286you have flashed that many times19:36
Shawn286dont know how many times I need to click it to satisfy ya19:36
holsteinShawn286: aks a question if you need help implementing iit19:36
holsteinask*19:36
wxlShawn286: the other thing is the installer isn't necessarily going to have all the extra kernel drivers that you get when you have a proper install19:52
wxlShawn286: also you should check to see if you have problems with the alternate installer19:52
wxlShawn286: another option is try a different usb port. that happens sometimes, too.19:52
Shawn286oh that is weird.. not even linux mint will boot off that flash drive20:41
holsteinShawn286: on that hardware20:41
Shawn286no20:41
Shawn286off that flash drive20:41
holsteinok.. thats much differnt than what i was reading earlier20:42
Shawn286I have the smaller flash drive with linux mint...that boots, but when I try the same distro on the 8 GB lexar, its gettign the blank cursor20:42
holsteinthat flash drive booted on some other machine20:42
Shawn286O.o20:42
holsteinthats why i didnt suggest..20:42
holstein!md520:42
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows20:42
wxldid you try the alternate installer?20:42
holsteinor testing the stick..20:42
Shawn286what did i just say O.o20:42
holsteinShawn286: you had stated tring to stick on other hardware, and it worked20:42
Shawn286other hardware??20:43
Shawn286I am only talking abou the intel 82845g pentium 420:43
Shawn286*about20:43
holsteinShawn286: 15:25 < Shawn286> I just preppared an 8 GB usb flash drive with lubuntu using lili usb creator, my core i7 laptop boots from it with no problem, yet  my pentium4 for just has a black screen with a blank blinking cursor20:43
Shawn286oh, well that was just a test20:43
holsteini read that as, an i7 boots the stick, the p4 doesnt20:43
holsteinShawn286: sure.. but that test means the stick works.. you are stating it doesnt20:43
Shawn286on the pentium 420:44
holsteindoes the stick boot on the i7?20:44
Shawn286yes20:44
holsteinthen, the stick is not the issue..20:44
Shawn286it is for the pentium 420:44
holsteinanyways.. linux mint likely has the same kernel version as lubuntu.. so thats what i would expect20:45
wxlthe stick with the same iso on it boots on the i7?20:45
holsteinsame hardware support for the graphics card20:45
Shawn286noo20:45
Shawn286no linux mint on the i720:45
holsteinShawn286: does it boot on the i7 or not?20:45
wxlso you've never tested the same stick with the same lubuntu iso on the i7?20:45
holsteini swear i read that question above answered both ways.. ;)20:45
Shawn286I said the lubuntu prepped flash drive booted on the i720:46
Shawn286but that confirms the usb stick works20:46
Shawn286back to the p4 now20:46
wxlso using the exact same stick with the exact same iso on it, it does not boot on the p4?20:46
holsteinShawn286: did nomodeset work? did you try that option with the p4?20:46
Shawn286on my 2 GB flash stick prepped with linux mint xfce, that boots on the p420:47
Shawn286yet using that iso on the lexar flash drive, it just gets the blank cursor stair20:47
holsteinShawn286: but thats an older kernel..20:47
Shawn286your not reading what I am saying!20:47
holsteinShawn286: different kernels can have different driver support20:48
holsteinShawn286: have you tried nomodeset?20:48
Shawn286the smaller flash drive works, yet the bigger one doesn't on the p420:48
holsteinok.. so, address it in hardware then.. only use the smaller one20:49
Shawn286..20:49
Shawn286I'm going to make a smaller persistent file20:49
Shawn286instead of 4 GBs I will make it around 3 or 220:49
holsteingo for it..20:49
holsteini typically just do normal installs to the stick and not persistent installs.. with grub right on the stick20:49
wxlditto20:50
Shawn286well I want grub on the stick, but idk how to get it on there20:50
holsteinyou can do that with the mini iso pretty easily. i'll just not install grub when installing the os, or i'll take the sticks to hardware that has no other drives physically in the unit20:51
caphomialHello21:40
wxlo/21:40
caphomiali have a big problem :(((((((21:42
genii!details21:42
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)21:42
caphomialI download a 2D games (mmorpg) tar.bin gz I do not know how to install it21:43
wxloh boy21:43
wxlthey don't offer a package for it?21:43
wxlbecause without that it will be difficult to keep up to date with your package manager21:43
caphomiali want install it : http://download.dofus.com/full/linux/21:44
wxland if it's source code you're going to have to install a bunch of stuff just to build it21:44
wxlwhich is to say it's not a simple task21:44
caphomiali do not understand :(21:45
wxl!info dofus21:45
ubottuPackage dofus does not exist in trusty21:45
wxlharumph21:45
wxl!info Dofus21:45
ubottuPackage Dofus does not exist in trusty21:45
* wxl scratches head21:46
wxlis ubuntu apps something different????21:46
caphomiali have lubuntu21:47
wxllubuntu is ubuntu21:47
holsteincaphomial: whatever works for ubuntu will work for lubuntu.. ppa's, or whatever else the manufacturer might suggest or offer21:47
caphomialits good <321:48
caphomialwhat is process for install ,21:48
wxlit's right here https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/dofus/21:48
holsteincaphomial: ask them21:48
holsteincaphomial: usually there is documentation.. do the provide any?21:48
genii!info dofus partner21:48
ubottuPackage dofus does not exist in partner21:48
geniiHm21:48
wxlsee it's weird21:49
wxlit's not in packages21:49
wxlit exists supposedly on 12.04 on21:49
geniiYep21:49
wxlcaphomial: open a terminal and find that file, then `tar xzvf DofusInstall-x86.tar.gz` and then run `/DofusInstall-x86/Dofus/bin/Dofus`21:50
wxlbut there should be a more normal way to do this21:50
caphomiali dont have software centre21:52
wxl21:52
caphomialhe say dont have file if i write this in terminal21:53
wxlcaphomial: like i said, you have to find the file and be in that directory. `cd ~/Downloads` will probably get you there21:54
holsteincaphomial:  seems relevant..21:56
holsteinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YJxKbmpedk21:56
caphomiali am on 32 bits;;;21:57
caphomialOKOK21:57
caphomialI dont understand21:57
caphomialnot problem linux it's not for me21:57
holsteincaphomial: you can just use the 64bit guide, friend..21:57
caphomialso difficult21:57
holsteincaphomial: the creators of the program can support linux for you21:58
holsteincaphomial: this is not a linux issue.. its that you dont have a simple linux option from the creators ofthe software21:58
caphomialI just install Lubuntu tonight, I really like but it parrait me hyper complicated I can not even install a simple game ...22:00
caphomialI do not understand how to install a program I can not find executable file22:01
holsteincaphomial: sure, but its not up to lubuntu to facilitate the installation22:01
holsteincaphomial: lubuntu is not preventing them from giving you an easy way to install22:01
caphomialsupport chat lubuntu for french people ,22:02
holstein!fr22:02
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:02
holsteincaphomial: lubuntu *is* ubuntu22:03
holsteincaphomial: nothing is blocking you from haning here, and redirectingto a channel for chat about lubuntu in french. you are welcome to do so22:03
holsteinhanging*22:03
caphomialthank !22:03
caphomialvery22:03
caphomialthe saloon french have not personn,22:04
holsteini dont speak french, so i cannot provide that service22:04
holsteincaphomial: i cannot create a community for you in your language.. i can only volunteer here22:04
holsteinthis is in french.. http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/dofus22:05
caphomialI know very well thank you for your help, the french channel is empty?22:05
holsteincaphomial: the french guide i just linked. http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/dofus22:05
holsteincaphomial: i cant make french speakers join the community..22:05
caphomialthank you for your help22:06
holsteinsure. good luck. let the dofus community know you are having a hard time, and would like an easier way to run the software in linux/ubuntu22:07
caphomialthe sound will work with games?22:09
caphomialhttp://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/dofus IS VERRY GOOD ;)22:10
caphomialdebian package its easy!22:10
wxlyep22:10
holsteincaphomial: nothing in lubuntu is preventin the sound from working22:10
holsteinpreventing*22:11
holsteincaphomial: if the sound can work, it will..22:11
caphomialgood22:11

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