[03:07] robert_ancell: There is a lot to consider when updating pulse. We have custom phone code that would need testing, and there is also the bluez 4 vs bluez 5 issue, and the GNOME we are using not working with bluez 5, and pulse itself not really working as well with bluez 5. At least thats what I understand of it. [03:07] TheMuso, that's the point of the bug report - so we can collect that information [03:07] Fair enough. Wil document there. [03:07] Thanks [05:41] Good morning [06:40] good morning desktopers! [06:41] hey seb128, still in lyon TZ ;) ? [06:41] and goooood monring [06:42] * mvo just had a nice cup of tea and is full of energy [06:42] hey mvo, not quite, but I decided that I could keep going with the starting the days a bit earlier ;-) [06:42] mvo, nice ;-) [06:43] seb128: what a strange idea :P if I didn't had to get up early I certainly wouldn't :) [06:43] lol [06:44] * mvo hugs seb128 [06:44] * seb128 hugs mvo back [06:44] mvo, pitti: congrats on the football game btw ;-) [06:45] bonjour seb128, ça va ? [06:45] mvo: guten Morgen [06:45] seb128: who played? [06:45] seb128: thanks :) we just cheered, not my personal doing [06:45] pitti: hey, guten morgen! [06:45] pitti, salut, oui et toi ? [06:45] seb128: but I found they were fairly equal, a matter of luck mostly [06:45] mvo, you really don't watch football? ;-) [06:45] seb128: ça va bien, nous avons eu un bon w.e. [06:45] * pitti throws a Schlandschal to mvo [06:46] pitti, I found that game mostly boring, not a lot of actions or shoots [06:46] seb128: I haven't seen the game :) I was helping a friend preparing his weeding, but I read about it, seemed to be very even from what I read, very close either way [06:46] pitti: haha [06:46] pitti, j'ai passé un bon w.e aussi ici ;-) [06:47] seb128: yeah; although better that than the close combat of BRA:COL .. [06:47] right [06:47] pitti: did you watch it in a public area (fanmeile :) ? [06:47] pitti, COL helped you by injurying Brazil players though... [06:49] hey seb128! wasn't expecting you waking up now :) [06:49] mvo: together with some neighbors outside [06:49] (reading backlog) [06:49] good morning mvo, pitti [06:49] didrocks, salut, ça va bien ? [06:49] seb128: yeah, although I suppose/hope the others will be even more motivated now [06:50] didrocks, I blame you for giving me the habits! ;-) [06:50] héhé ;) [06:50] seb128: ça va bien, en plus la pluie a bien refroidi l'atmosphère ! [06:50] seb128: and you, tennis this wek-end? [06:50] seb128: but that referee of BRA/COL should have been lynch^I mean, disqualified [06:50] didrocks, ici pareil, trop chaud hier après-midi (31°C) mais on a eu des oranges hier soir [06:50] pitti, yeah... [06:51] seb128: I watched the NED:CRC game, that was quite interesting [06:51] I feel a bit sad for CRC [06:51] ouai, 30 yesterday, 20 aujourd'hui [06:51] didrocks, I played amical games on saturday and sunday, the team event didn't happen (I guess they didn't have enough available player to make it happen this w.e) [06:51] ah, ok [06:51] hey didrocks [06:51] pitti: nice [06:52] pitti, oh, come on, if NED didn't win with all those opportunities it would have been stealing [06:52] didrocks: ici aussi - hier je suis monté mon velo, c'était très bien [06:53] pitti: waow, even with 30°C? [06:53] didrocks: yes, nice summer day [06:53] seems a little bit hot for serious cycling :) [06:53] seb128: yeah, I just really don't like penalty shooting [06:54] yeah, me neither, Netherland should have scored before that [07:02] seb128: what is "amical games"? [07:03] mvo, non official competition, just going to play for fun with somebody [07:03] seb128: aha, tennis I assume? [07:04] mvo, yes ;-) [07:05] :) [07:05] did you win?!? [07:05] not this time [07:05] but I had fun, which is what matters ;-) [07:05] seb128: :) very true! [07:05] and came back quite exhausted, which is good as well [07:52] me is here -> . (... vacation inbetween ...) inbox zero is waaaay oooover theeeere -----...-----> . [07:54] oh, and /me is Sweetshark again, not Sweetshark1 or Sweetshark_gc as my pandaboard was revitalised. [07:58] Sweetshark, welcome back! [08:00] seb128: good to be back ;) -- will try to fix the quite embarassing b0rkage in libreoffice-prereleases this week. [08:00] Sweetshark, did you have good holidays? [08:04] hey hey [08:06] Laney, good morning! how are you? had a good w.e? [08:06] hi Laney! [08:08] hey seb128 & larsu! [08:09] very good thank you, got to meet my nephew for the first time ;-) [08:10] didn't you take an afternoon to do that some days ago? [08:11] sorry for the stupid question, I don't have a good memory for those things, I think to remember you wanted to go visit your sister some afternoon, I'm probably wrong [08:11] was going to but then didn't [08:11] so went up at the weekend instead [08:12] k [08:13] scary ;-) [08:15] Laney, scared of babies? ;-) [08:16] very much so! [08:16] all tiny and fragile [08:16] but he was quite good actually [08:17] at least with me :P [08:17] ;-) [08:17] how was your weekend? [08:19] quite good, I did catchup on sleep a bit after getting back from Lyon and I played some tennis [08:19] watched Germany beat France in between [08:19] that's about it mostly [08:20] sounds relaxing [08:20] I watched the Netherlands win in penalties [08:22] morning Laney :) [08:22] I missed that one because it was on a paid channel in France [08:22] reading the summary they deserved to win before the penalties, they dominated the game and had quite some opportunities to score [08:25] I guess they did, but Costa Rica had a quite good defence [08:25] especially their keeper made some great saves [08:25] hey didrocks [08:26] how goes? [08:28] I'm great thanks! Relaxing week-end, not too much done due to the warm temperature [08:28] today is 10°C less than yesterday [08:28] grey sky makes me wonder if I'll be able to run :) [08:30] seb128: holidays were decent: stayed at home, but really nice weather. couldnt avoid to take part in 2 or 3 conference calls at TDF though :/ [08:30] go now before it rains ;-) [08:30] didrocks, yeah, forecast doesn't look good for Lyon this week [08:31] Laney: it's already too late :) [08:31] seb128: right, was wise for you to come last week! [08:31] didrocks, "De11h00 à 11h35 : Précipitations modérées" [08:31] still précipitations :p [08:31] didrocks, yeah, I picked the right time, was a great week (and not only weather wise -;) [08:31] or the "you will get moderately wet, but wet" [08:31] \o/ [08:31] * didrocks hugs seb128 [08:31] * seb128 hugs didrocks back [08:33] seb128: I gave my DSLR to a cousin so couldnt do any newfangled photothings but, I went totally oldschool and dusted of my old analog SLR (manual focus, manual shutters) and did some black-and-white photography. They will be developed in two weeks, exciting -- like in the old days ;) [08:36] Sweetshark, let's see if you managed to take good ones ;-) [08:41] seb128: that question boils down to if I am spoiled by the autostabilization in the digital ones ;) -- apart from that I did not try anything too "fool, that works with a DSLR a bazillion times better!" (like low-light pictures etc.) [08:42] (still curious about granularity etc.) [09:35] fginther, hey, do you know why jenkins/CI doesn't run on https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/1297418-apply-new-designs-to-background-panel/+merge/223571 ? [09:36] seb128: I would say jonas-drange isn't in the whitelist? [09:37] didrocks, how do we get him added to the list would be my next question then ;-) [09:37] seb128: that one is for sure for fginther, but try maybe cihelp? that kind of knowledge is probably shared inside the CI Team [09:37] i hate new Devhelp, yet i'll probably upload it. [09:38] what [09:38] xnox, why would you? it uses gtkheaderbar so that doesn't work under unity right? [09:38] didrocks, thanks [09:38] yw [09:39] Laney: seb128: it's not using toolbar, nor Headerbar, instead it shoved everything into a "gear" on the right, like e.g. Google Chrome "the menu button" (used to be gear/cog?!) [09:39] Laney: seb128: oh, yeah, and it's totally broken in non-fullscreen mode. E.g. no window decorators. [09:39] xnox, are you sure it's not using headerbar? when I looked to git the new version was [09:39] right [09:39] it's using headerbar ;-) [09:39] seb128: awesome [09:40] indeed not [09:40] why did you want to upload? [09:40] seb128: i'll commit ubuntu delta to debian, and leave it at that I guess. [09:40] k [09:40] seb128: is there a Gtk -> Qt5 porting guide? At least Qt is using Gtk2 to theme everything ;-))))) [09:41] xnox, http://qt-project.org/wiki/Porting_from_GTK ;-) [09:48] seb128, anyone: Anyone having a quick link how conference travel auth works with the newfanged thing? Please send me a private link if such a thing exists. ;) [09:48] Sweetshark, no idea, maybe check on #hr if you have questions? [09:55] seb128: hmm, found a need help button in the system which seems to be autocreating a ticket from there. Lets see what it will result in .... [10:16] Hey Laney, so I am guessing activation of display config is coming to late? maybe the upstart jobs need to be adjusted? [10:36] darkxst: Too early it seems [10:36] can't get it right in unity-greeter though [10:36] might have to give up [10:37] Laney, how could it be too early? [10:37] dunno, requires some kind of initialisation to happen first [10:38] under shell it comes from mutter which is quite late [10:39] unless u-s-d is launching before X? but I doubt that [10:42] activated from within usd> broken [10:42] activated by upstart> works [10:42] *after* usd [10:44] yes odd, there is nothing in there that would depend on usd [10:45] if it is failing then X(randr) is just not ready === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === Trevinho_ is now known as Trevinho [13:40] mvo: hey, do you have any idea of what I eventually miss when I'm doing something like that in my tests: subprocess.call([self.dpkg, "--add-architecture", "armhf"]), and then I force reload the cache: apt.Cache() [13:41] mvo: I have an :armhf package in Packages.gz, but iterating over the cache doesn't show it [13:44] didrocks: that should work, maybe apt is calling the wrong dpkg (i.e. not the one from your chroot where you run the tests)? could you run strace -e trace=execve -f -s1024 to see what dpkg is called and what it outputs? === larsu_ is now known as larsu [13:46] didrocks: it should run "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" to gather what is available [13:46] mvo: let me try [13:47] I have some system ones call, unsure it's that one though, let me add more debugs [13:49] mvo: it seems to be calling the right one: [pid 9554] execve("/tmp/tmppk7ogef6", ["/tmp/tmppk7ogef6", "--print-foreign-architectures"], [/* 94 vars */]) = 0 [13:49] which then calls: [13:49] [pid 9555] execve("/usr/bin/fakeroot", ["fakeroot", "dpkg", "--root=/tmp/tmp161qink0", "--force-not-root", "--force-bad-path", "--log=/tmp/tmp161qink0/var/log/dpkg.log", "--print-foreign-architectures"], [/* 94 vars */]) = 0 [13:49] let me see what that one returns [13:51] mvo: it returns: foo [13:51] armhf [13:51] which are the 2 archs I added [13:52] (I tried foo, and when I saw it fails, I wonders if you had another filter, so tried armhf as well) [13:52] and this is the Packages.gz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7760263/ [13:53] didrocks: does apt.apt_pkg.get_architectures() return armhf? [13:53] let me try [13:53] didrocks: aha, no multiarch field? could you please add that? [13:54] ah, in the package itself… [13:54] yeah, I could be that idiot :p [13:54] apt.apt_pkg.get_architectures() returns what I expect it to return btw [13:55] so should be as simple as the multiarch field… [13:56] didrocks: don't be harsh to yourself (you are no idiot). python-apt should really make this sort of testing (much) easier by helping setup test chroots etc etc [13:56] mvo: Multi-arch: foreign should have been enough, right? [13:57] like that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7760290/ [13:58] (the cache doesn't contains them, even after that regeneration) [14:00] didrocks: hm, could you please push your branch somewhere so that I can have a look? [14:00] mvo: sure, one sec [14:04] mvo: so, git clone git@github.com:didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center.git && git checkout in-progress-first-android-studio-version [14:04] mvo: the test is at tests/small/test_requirements_handler, in test_install_with_foreign_foreign_arch_added() [14:05] mvo: I'm loading/testing udtc/network/requirements_handler.py (line 96) === desrt_ is now known as desrt [14:22] didrocks: python3 -m unittest tests.small.test_requirements says: from udtc import settings [14:22] ImportError: cannot import name 'settings' - anything I need to setup or run? === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:23] mvo: do you have all requirements installed? this is from Readme.MD: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7760388/ [14:24] mvo: then, you can run the interesting test with: ./runtests tests/small/test_requirements_handler.py:TestRequirementsHandler.test_install_with_foreign_foreign_arch_added [14:24] this will turn on verbose logging and so on [14:26] didrocks: small typo I think, it first need the activate, then the pip install, no? [14:28] didrocks: its running now, thanks a bunch [14:29] mvo: you don't really need the activate if you use the real binary path from env/ [14:29] (when you pip install) [14:29] mvo: excellent that it's running :) [14:29] didrocks: oh, odd, it was complaining for me for some reason but maybe that was something lese [14:30] mvo: weird, I've been doing that for some time, I'll have a lot on a fresh system [14:31] kenvandine, hey, welcome back! [14:31] hey seb128! [14:31] kenvandine, how were your holidays? [14:31] didrocks: probably something on my side [14:31] awesome! [14:31] :-D [14:33] mvo: as you probably can see in tearDown(), I commented the shutil.rmtree() [14:33] mvo: so you have the /tmp/tmp which contains the chroot [14:34] kenvandine, great ;-) [14:34] i drove through a redwood tree :-p [14:34] kenvandine, sorry I didn't pick up your u-s-s libqofono work, sil2100 only got that uploaded a few days ago and I was busy on other things on thursday/friday [14:35] kenvandine, "through"? urg, nobody injured? what happened? [14:35] haha [14:35] it was intentional [14:35] there is a giant redwood tree that has a hole big enough to drive through [14:36] it was hilarious :) [14:36] qengho, are the builds in https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/stage/+packages ok? We're quite far behind with chromium atm [14:36] lol [14:37] i was driving a huge pickup truck, and there was 1cm on each side when i passed through [14:37] crazyness ;-) [14:37] one big ass tree! [14:37] nice to see use centimetres though ;-) [14:37] the redwoods are pretty amazing [14:37] +you [14:37] hehe [14:40] kenvandine: hey! Yeah, so I libqofono went to the NEW queue and I forgot about it there basically, I just remembered Laney saying he'll look at it and then I didn't poke at it for some days, so things got delayed [14:40] kenvandine: so sorry about that... [14:40] kenvandine: so when it actually moved out of the queue to the archive it was already latish [14:40] me? [14:41] sil2100, it's there now :) [14:41] * kenvandine is happy [14:41] sil2100, it didn't sit in the NEW queue afaik [14:41] i just refreshed my settings branch from trunk [14:41] sil2100, you were on vac when pat pinged to get status update [14:41] kenvandine: yeah, I know, but it would be in faster if I didn't forget about it [14:41] we waited for you to be back [14:41] it went through just fine once you uploaded [14:41] seb128: yes, but when I got back I uploaded it the next day, then I uploaded it and I remember it being in the new queue for some days [14:42] Let me check the timestamps [14:42] mvo: the test is failing for you too, right? [14:42] sil2100, ok, no big deal anyway [14:42] it's in [14:43] kenvandine, do you still need help driving the u-s-s branch? or can you test on current trunk and submit it? [14:43] didrocks: yes, I'm currently finding my way i nthe code to analyize this [14:43] i updated my branch and to test again [14:43] mvo: do not hesitate if everything is obscure :) [14:43] kenvandine, ok [14:44] anything* [14:44] (well, everything is… ok :p) [14:44] kenvandine, btw, do you know if content-hub is supposed to work on desktop-unity8-mir? [14:44] but i could use help landing it, it's hard to come back from a real vacation :) [14:44] seb128, i would say it should... but i really don't know for sure [14:44] Yeah, so the upload happened on the 26th of June but it moved out of the queue on the 2nd of July [14:45] basically it works on the desktop already, with the exception of proper focus changes [14:45] without MIR [14:45] So I could have acted more [14:45] so i'd expect the focus should work properly in desktop-unity8-mir [14:46] kenvandine, ok, I'm trying the background panel changes, but nothing happens when I click on the button to add images [14:47] oh... [14:47] is gallery installed as a click? [14:47] it won't work with gallery from a deb [14:48] so how is that going to work with desktop-unity8-mir? [14:48] can you install clicks from the store? [14:56] kenvandine, yes, you can, the store doesn't have amd64 binaries though, so gallery is not listed [14:57] * didrocks replaces all self.cache = Cache() to refresh the apt cache with self.cache.open(), didn't notice that one [14:58] chrisccoulson: I need to check with #webapps first. Also note Precise is still broken, but I guess you can update piecemeal. [14:59] seb128, ok, as a work around you could change the default source for pictures in gsettings [14:59] from com.ubuntu.gallery to gallery-app [15:00] kenvandine, let me try that [15:01] change iut from ["com.ubuntu.gallery", "gallery", "current-user-version"] [15:01] s/iut/it/ [15:01] to [15:01] ["gallery-app", "", ""] [15:13] mvo: I have a simpler test case if you are interested (through available_bucket) [15:15] didrocks: certainly, sorry, was distracted by something [15:15] mvo: you should try test_is_bucket_available_foreign_archs [15:15] mvo: so, just run it with ./runtests tests/small/test_requirements_handler.py:TestRequirementsHandler.test_is_bucket_available_foreign_archs [15:15] this code doesn't handle with threading and so on [15:16] this one does not fail for me [15:16] oh? it does for me, but I changed quite a little the code (fixed other things) [15:16] let me push maybe then [15:16] one sec [15:16] oh I know why [15:17] mvo: change the second line with self.handler.cache = {"testpackagefoo:foo": "", 'testpackage1': "" [15:17] instead of testpackage:foo [15:17] (as this is the real "foo" on the foo arch package) [15:17] FYI, just before, I tried to use: [15:17] self.handler.cache.update() [15:17] self.handler.cache.open() [15:18] but that didn't change (to ensure the multi-arch was taken into account by the cache) [15:22] kenvandine, that worked, thanks ;-) [15:22] woot [15:22] seb128, so it changed focus properly? [15:22] and did it close gallery when it finished? [15:22] * kenvandine needs to experiment with desktop-unity8-mir :) [15:23] kenvandine, well, "changed focus", it opened the gallery in the main view, settings being a phone app they open on the side space [15:23] so the app handling is a bit different [15:24] didrocks: thanks, that is helping, i.e. its failing now [15:24] mvo: yeah, that's the real package name :), so even with the force update and reopen of the cache after the ---add-architecture, no luck [15:33] seb128, nice! [15:33] seb128, did gallery close after you changed the background? === pesari_ is now known as pesari [15:45] didrocks: I gtg in a bit but I can give it my full attention tomorrow morning if thats ok with you [15:46] mvo: that would be awesome! I'm finishing up some other tests right now and that would be my only blocker test-wise for that part then :) [15:50] didrocks: keep poking :P [15:51] mvo: will do for sure! :) [15:55] larsu, is this something for you perhaps? https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/ubuntu-themes/fix-suru-inheritance/+merge/225854 [15:56] am I the theme guy now? :'( [15:56] mhr3: ah, makes sense. Approving [15:58] seb128: can you top approve ubuntu-themes? [15:59] * larsu guesses seb128 can top approve everything [15:59] done [15:59] larsu, mhr3: ^ [16:00] merci [16:00] thx guys [16:00] mhr3, do you organize a landing? [16:00] I have some more theme stuff in the pipeline [16:01] unless this is urgent, of course [16:01] not urgent [16:01] but landings are cheap, we do one and another one in a week [16:04] seb128, no need, not super urgent [16:04] seb128, can wait a bit [16:05] I have the theme fixes for gtk 3.12 in a branch, but got distracted by o-s messing up backgrounds again :( [16:05] larsu, ok, no worry, I'm going to do a landing later in the week when you stuff are ready for that [16:05] but meanwhile time for some exercice [16:06] seb128: thanks. Enjoy! [16:06] larsu, thanks [16:07] mvo: please, when you will see that tomorrow: git pull to ensure we are on the same code base :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:25] ok, enough testing for today, more tomorrow :) === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk