| * Kilos waves to the early birds | 05:14 | |
| bduk | More almal | 05:45 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | more bduk | 05:47 |
| JabberwockyA19 | morning all | 07:19 |
| Golynx- | Testing | 07:49 |
| JabberwockyA19 | success | 07:50 |
| Golynx- | :D | 07:50 |
| Golynx- | jmIrc works | 07:51 |
| Kilos | sigh | 07:55 |
| Kilos | hi Golynx- JabberwockyA19 bushtech superfly inetpro | 07:55 |
| Golynx- | Hi Kilos | 07:55 |
| charl | hi Kilos, Golynx- | 07:56 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 07:56 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 07:56 | |
| Kilos | hi charl | 07:56 |
| Golynx- | Hi charl | 07:56 |
| bushtech | morning Kilos | 07:56 |
| Golynx- | My pc is frozen lol | 07:56 |
| charl | i missed cantide yesterday | 07:56 |
| JabberwockyA19 | môre Kilos | 07:56 |
| Kilos | cyber coffee doesnt warm you like real coffee on a cold day | 07:56 |
| charl | hi bushtech | 07:56 |
| charl | hi bushtech, JabberwockyA19 | 07:57 |
| JabberwockyA19 | hi charl | 07:57 |
| Kilos | Golynx-, thats not funny man, whats broken | 07:57 |
| Kilos | oh frozen, whew eyes see what they want | 07:57 |
| Kilos | everything was frozen here this morning | 07:58 |
| Golynx- | Lol Kilos its too cold to work on the pc | 07:58 |
| Golynx- | Mountains around here are blanket in white | 07:59 |
| Kilos | eish | 07:59 |
| === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle | ||
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 08:00 |
| Golynx- | JmIrc i havnt used in years | 08:00 |
| Golynx- | but its warmer from mobile | 08:00 |
| Kilos | hahaha hot water bottles on lap and feet help | 08:01 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 08:01 |
| Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 08:01 |
| Kilos | hey you clever okes tell me | 08:02 |
| Kilos | ups uses a serial data cable to get into it right? | 08:02 |
| Kilos | does anyone have one so i can get info | 08:03 |
| Kilos | i want to know does the ribbon cable cross over from one plug to the next | 08:03 |
| Golynx- | Lol | 08:03 |
| Kilos | i want to make one up | 08:03 |
| Golynx- | Damn whatsapp needs a password in pidgin | 08:10 |
| JabberwockyA19 | Golynx-: I just gave up on that | 08:11 |
| JabberwockyA19 | please let me know if you find an easy way around that | 08:11 |
| Kilos | me too | 08:12 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 08:13 |
| Golynx- | JabberwockyA19 : there is software that can sniff the password on android and ios, but that leads to whatsapp kicking you out of the service after a while | 08:14 |
| Vince-0 | o/ | 08:14 |
| Golynx- | Its looks impossible though | 08:14 |
| JabberwockyA19 | need to setup a proxy of some sort :-/ it wont be easy | 08:15 |
| superfly | hi all | 08:41 |
| charl | why are you all so determined on getting whatsapp to work on the desktop ? | 08:41 |
| charl | if they wanted it to work on the desktop they would have made an official client or made it easier to get the password from the app | 08:41 |
| charl | hi superfly | 08:41 |
| charl | rather use xmpp instead, run an xmpp server and whatever client you want both on the mobile and the desktop | 08:42 |
| charl | then you have full control over it, and you can secure it too | 08:42 |
| JabberwockyA19 | charl I think it's a design problem from whatsapp side, afaik they changed their policy but not their internal arch | 08:42 |
| charl | i find all these mobile-specific services stupid in any case, services should be device-neutral | 08:43 |
| charl | and they should have a good api so that anyone can create a client, be it proprietary or open source (preferably the latter of course) | 08:43 |
| charl | that can run on any platform | 08:43 |
| JabberwockyA19 | the amount of people using whatsapp vs xmpp makes it impossible for me to use xmpp, and its just very slow typing on my phone vs keyboard | 08:44 |
| JabberwockyA19 | i agree with you 100% | 08:44 |
| JabberwockyA19 | but we have to live in a world with people that don't know that :P | 08:44 |
| charl | i've heard the same argument about facebook, but for some reason, i manage to survive perfectly fine without either that or whatsapp | 08:44 |
| charl | i dunno how i can do it and other can't ... | 08:45 |
| JabberwockyA19 | I've wanted to delete whatsapp multiple times, but it's just not practical for me at this stage | 08:45 |
| charl | maybe i'm just a stereotypical germanic person :) | 08:45 |
| charl | stubborn and hard-headed | 08:45 |
| JabberwockyA19 | hehe :) | 08:45 |
| charl | as flexible as stalin | 08:46 |
| JabberwockyA19 | it's better to say away | 08:46 |
| JabberwockyA19 | I plan to use tox.im in the "near future" | 08:47 |
| charl | looking | 08:48 |
| charl | looks really cool | 08:50 |
| charl | but it's a pity that they are creating yet another island on their own by relying on peer to peer / bittorrent technology | 08:51 |
| charl | with DHT etc instead of just going with the existing standard (XMPP) | 08:51 |
| charl | i think i'm going to try it though | 08:51 |
| charl | installed venom now, still very rough and buggy | 09:04 |
| charl | but it's only version 0.2.0 | 09:04 |
| JabberwockyA19 | did you use the cli? | 09:04 |
| charl | no the gui | 09:05 |
| JabberwockyA19 | ah toxic | 09:05 |
| * nuvolari votes for googlechat :P | 09:05 | |
| nuvolari | device agnostic ever since I can remember | 09:06 |
| JabberwockyA19 | google hangout moved away from xmpp right? | 09:06 |
| nuvolari | yeah :( | 09:06 |
| nuvolari | only get invites now | 09:06 |
| nuvolari | but 1-on-1 still supports it | 09:06 |
| JabberwockyA19 | thats neat, i've got the hangout client on my phone though | 09:08 |
| nuvolari | using IRC gateway bitlbee to do xmpp-through-irc :P | 09:09 |
| nuvolari | so using irc client for most xmpp-chats/google chat | 09:09 |
| JabberwockyA19 | I used to do that too @ bitbee | 09:09 |
| charl | as long as it's based off open standards and everybody can create their own client it's perfectly suitable for use on the public internet | 09:09 |
| charl | as long as you do not get vendor lockin | 09:10 |
| charl | unlike flash for example *puke* | 09:10 |
| JabberwockyA19 | speaking about vendor lockin, I had to install windows 8.1 on a 4tb hdd with an old motherboard (more puke) | 09:11 |
| JabberwockyA19 | UEFI and secure boot crap :o( | 09:12 |
| charl | can't you disable secure boot ? | 09:13 |
| charl | i also have uefi on my desktop workstation but ubuntu 14.04 works perfectly with secure boot disabled | 09:13 |
| charl | actually i never even tried to enable it in the first place, was disabled already when i got it (ubuntu pre-installed by dell) | 09:14 |
| JabberwockyA19 | the old motherboards doesn't have secure boot, ubuntu works fine but windows only supports MBR paritions without secure boot | 09:28 |
| JabberwockyA19 | for > 2TB paritions you'll need to use something like GPT and yeah... vendor lockin to the max | 09:29 |
| JabberwockyA19 | I could not work around the boot problem, just used a smaller drive to boot :( | 09:32 |
| Kilos | haha just stepped on sisters toe, she says np she got duplicates of those on the other foot | 10:11 |
| Kilos | toes | 10:11 |
| * mazal peeks in for a bit | 12:38 | |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 12:44 |
| mazal | Gaanit oom ? | 12:44 |
| Kilos | for the miners interest, look at mine depth | 12:44 |
| Kilos | http://picpaste.com/del/YcYXiWM5/screenshot_282643349-6HPRg38W.png | 12:44 |
| Kilos | goed dankie en self mazal ? | 12:45 |
| mazal | Wat is daai ? 'n Ander minetest ? | 12:45 |
| Kilos | selle een | 12:47 |
| mazal | Prentjie is bk te klein om te sien wat aangaan | 12:47 |
| Kilos | dis my myn by the DEEP | 12:47 |
| mazal | Ah ok | 12:47 |
| Kilos | dis 4k ondergrong | 12:48 |
| mazal | ish | 12:48 |
| Kilos | ek sal try dit vol scerm maal of naby | 12:48 |
| mazal | Hoekom so diep gaan oom ? | 12:49 |
| mazal | Na 1024 kry mens mos nie meer nuwe goete nie ? | 12:49 |
| Kilos | ek weet nie ek dink daar is meer van als daar diep | 12:50 |
| Kilos | en ek soek daai nyan cat ding | 12:50 |
| mazal | Het oom al Mithril gekry ? Sulke pers goed ? | 12:50 |
| Kilos | ek het baie | 12:50 |
| Kilos | maak lekker pikke om naby lava te werk | 12:51 |
| mazal | Ek het nog niks gesien nie , seker baie diep daai goete | 12:51 |
| Kilos | stadiger as n mese pik en hou langer | 12:51 |
| bduk1 | baai almal | 12:52 |
| mazal | Ja nee , tyd om huiswaarts te gaan. | 12:52 |
| Kilos | mooi llop julle | 12:52 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , lekker aand oom | 12:52 |
| Kilos | dankie jy ook | 12:52 |
| inetpro | goeie more | 13:28 |
| Kilos | hellp inetpro how are you | 13:43 |
| Kilos | hello as well | 13:43 |
| arnaudmez | Hello Kilos | 13:59 |
| arnaudmez | hello guys | 13:59 |
| arnaudmez | how are you today | 13:59 |
| Kilos | hi arnaudmez howsit? | 13:59 |
| arnaudmez | cool bro cool | 13:59 |
| Kilos | well ty and you? | 13:59 |
| arnaudmez | how is ubuntu and the ZA room | 13:59 |
| Kilos | we all good i think, just evey year the working guys seem to have less time | 14:00 |
| Symmetria | FINALLY | 14:14 |
| * Symmetria boots the install for the new kenya mirror server for the first time | 14:14 | |
| Symmetria | :P via DRAC | 14:14 |
| Symmetria | god these servers take a while to boot | 14:15 |
| arnaudmez | we are all working Kilos, even you | 14:18 |
| arnaudmez | i call it contributing | 14:18 |
| Kilos | HAHA | 14:18 |
| arnaudmez | Symmetria: what servers ? | 14:18 |
| Symmetria | heh Dell R720 | 14:19 |
| Symmetria | with 192gigs of ram | 14:19 |
| Symmetria | attached to 160 terabytes of SAS storage | 14:19 |
| Kilos | SJOE | 14:19 |
| Symmetria | what will soon be mirror.liquidtelecom.com | 14:19 |
| Symmetria | ;p | 14:19 |
| Symmetria | heh over a million bux worth of hardware | 14:20 |
| Symmetria | this is kinda cool, I'm installing it over iDRAC from my house | 14:22 |
| Symmetria | and because of the speed of my net connection its having no issues with the remote mounted cd image | 14:23 |
| Symmetria | lol, its installing faster than if it was coming off a CD :P | 14:23 |
| charl | very nice Symmetria | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | heh, just takes *AGES* to boot, when it starts initilizing all the disk space, ram, firmware images and other crap | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | no matter how fast any operating system boots, doesnt matter if the box itself takes a month of sundays to init before boot | 14:38 |
| arnaudmez | Symmetria: that's just a dream coming to life | 14:48 |
| arnaudmez | guys i tried to go that route but now i just end up going Cloud | 14:49 |
| charl | arnaudmez: i don't know if it's the same in s.africa but if you use the term "cloud" amoung technical folks where i live you might end up getting laughed at | 14:50 |
| charl | it has gotten to be a marketing b*ll term now that has little to no meaning whatsoever | 14:51 |
| charl | bbl | 14:53 |
| arnaudmez | charl: thanks for that :-) i will remember | 14:58 |
| arnaudmez | but i' not in S. Africa at all | 14:58 |
| arnaudmez | in Congo where i am when u say Cloud among the Techies they start dreaming and want to ear what you have to say | 14:59 |
| arnaudmez | different perception of the same thing :-) | 14:59 |
| Kilos | Symmetria, let me know when its going so i can run mtr to it | 15:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: always good thanks, just a bit cold | 15:06 |
| Kilos | and colder weather on its way inetpro | 15:06 |
| Kilos | maybe max of 14 | 15:07 |
| Kilos | and - in the dark time | 15:07 |
| arnaudmez | Symmetria: yeah but tell us if it wont cause you any issue | 15:07 |
| arnaudmez | guys what network tools/method can you advice for a person who want to do network troubleshooting ? | 15:08 |
| arnaudmez | i mean a person running linux | 15:08 |
| Kilos | arnaudmez, have you got your loco going yet? | 15:08 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: not yet, time issues i think i will take it by next month and setup a proper thing | 15:09 |
| Kilos | what trouble shooting do you want to do, ask Symmetria thats his game | 15:09 |
| arnaudmez | huho | 15:09 |
| Kilos | he is a networking specialist | 15:10 |
| arnaudmez | i mean i'm busy setting up a small office wwith couple of devices on it, maybe setup a linunx server also but still it's a project | 15:10 |
| arnaudmez | so i'm quickly writing a list of necessary CLI tools that can help a network admin | 15:10 |
| Kilos | so what trouble shooting, you mean if it breaks down? | 15:11 |
| Kilos | i only know 2 things with networking ping and mtr hehe | 15:12 |
| Kilos | here is a nice one to test with | 15:13 |
| Kilos | mtr -i2 -s0 -n 8.8.8.8 | 15:13 |
| Kilos | arnaudmez, you can point it at any address to see packet losses and stuff | 15:16 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: i knew that one but not with arguments | 15:19 |
| arnaudmez | was using it just as it comes | 15:19 |
| arnaudmez | mtr 8.8.8.8 | 15:19 |
| Symmetria | AHA, I got the damn interface up once I figured out what the fuck the interface name was :P | 15:20 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:20 |
| Symmetria | heh, I have never seen such wierd interface names | 15:21 |
| Symmetria | its on interface p5p4 | 15:21 |
| arnaudmez | Symmetria: i see it everytime dear, mine is p3p1 | 15:30 |
| Symmetria | em1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr c8:1f:66:df:ea:ea | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | em2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr c8:1f:66:df:ea:eb | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | em3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr c8:1f:66:df:ea:ec | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | em4 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr c8:1f:66:df:ea:ed | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | lo Link encap:Local Loopback | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p2p1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr a0:36:9f:2f:8e:58 | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p2p2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr a0:36:9f:2f:8e:59 | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p2p3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr a0:36:9f:2f:8e:5a | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p2p4 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr a0:36:9f:2f:8e:5b | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p3p1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr a0:36:9f:44:e0:4c | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p3p2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr a0:36:9f:44:e0:4e | 15:31 |
| arnaudmez | guys i have also discover a nice command to show interfaces on linux (guess some of you knows them) | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p5p1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0a:f7:3f:80:f0 | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p5p2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0a:f7:3f:80:f1 | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p5p3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0a:f7:3f:80:f2 | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | p5p4 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0a:f7:3f:80:f3 | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | LOL | 15:31 |
| arnaudmez | just type: ip a | 15:32 |
| Symmetria | p3p1 and p3p2 are 10G NIC's | 15:32 |
| Symmetria | the rest are 1G nic's | 15:32 |
| arnaudmez | Symmetria: means p5p4 are ? | 15:32 |
| Symmetria | those are more 1G interfaces | 15:35 |
| Symmetria | this thing has a LOT of interfaces | 15:35 |
| Symmetria | ;p | 15:35 |
| arnaudmez | Symmetria: i agreee | 15:37 |
| Symmetria | someone screwed up though and didn't put in all the ram :( | 15:39 |
| Symmetria | root@mirror:/mirror# free | 15:39 |
| Symmetria | total used free shared buffers cached | 15:39 |
| Symmetria | Mem: 198048760 2361744 195687016 1036 77956 829680 | 15:39 |
| Symmetria | -/+ buffers/cache: 1454108 196594652 | 15:39 |
| Symmetria | Swap: 9764860 0 9764860 | 15:39 |
| Symmetria | and still waiting for all the SAN's to be connected | 15:39 |
| Symmetria | lol, best thing about this mirror server | 15:42 |
| Symmetria | pinging my house from it: | 15:42 |
| Symmetria | 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9007ms | 15:42 |
| Symmetria | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.908/1.173/1.499/0.196 ms | 15:42 |
| Symmetria | (197.155.77.1 if anyone wants to ping it from .za) | 15:43 |
| Kilos | 64 bytes from 197.155.77.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=381 ms | 15:46 |
| Kilos | 64 bytes from 197.155.77.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=442 ms | 15:46 |
| Kilos | 64 bytes from 197.155.77.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=379 ms | 15:46 |
| Kilos | Symmetria, http://slexy.org/view/s21SUz3WFR | 15:50 |
| Symmetria | ugh | 16:11 |
| Symmetria | what ISP is that | 16:11 |
| Kilos | 3g | 16:11 |
| arnaudmez | guys i've foudn this http://linux.dell.com/files/whitepapers/consistent_network_device_naming_in_linux.pdf | 16:11 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: how can i ask the bot to make it short please ? | 16:12 |
| Symmetria | vodacom? cause its going international :( | 16:12 |
| Kilos | maaz shorten http://linux.dell.com/files/whitepapers/consistent_network_device_naming_in_linux.pdf | 16:12 |
| Maaz | Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/mUBaMp | 16:12 |
| Kilos | telkom 8ta Symmetria | 16:12 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: thank you so muc | 16:12 |
| arnaudmez | so much | 16:12 |
| Kilos | yw | 16:13 |
| Symmetria | anyone who isn't behind telkom/vodacom who can do a trace/ping to 197.155.77.1? | 16:13 |
| Symmetria | telkom / vodacom are still being asshats about peering :P | 16:13 |
| Kilos | ill get you an equivalent to 8.8.8.8 | 16:13 |
| Symmetria | 8.8.8.8 will end at google za pop so thats not really a valid test :( | 16:13 |
| Symmetria | telkom peers with google | 16:13 |
| Kilos | well give another addy to try | 16:14 |
| Symmetria | will be same thing to anywhere outside of .za, Telkom doesnt peer so if you wanna go to anywhere in africa from them you gonna go via europe | 16:15 |
| Symmetria | because they are asshats :P | 16:15 |
| Kilos | i dont know about all that stuff but know at times i have bad latency when playing an online game in za | 16:16 |
| Kilos | and at others its instant | 16:17 |
| Kilos | dont know how to pin point where the weak link is | 16:17 |
| Kilos | then i can complain | 16:18 |
| Kilos | peeps on adsl dont have the same problem | 16:18 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: please mtr syn73.com | 16:28 |
| Kilos | ok | 16:29 |
| Symmetria | arnaudmez whats your ping to 197.155.77.1 | 16:29 |
| arnaudmez | Symmetria: http://slexy.org/view/s21qQgekdk | 16:30 |
| Symmetria | urgh what connectivity are you on? which ISP? | 16:30 |
| Kilos | arnaudmez, http://slexy.org/view/s2dvpj81YD | 16:30 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: that one i like | 16:31 |
| arnaudmez | no loss | 16:31 |
| Kilos | yip not too bad | 16:31 |
| arnaudmez | Symmetria: http://slexy.org/view/s2061Rep4H | 16:33 |
| arnaudmez | seems like you are losing packets at certain point | 16:33 |
| Symmetria | aahh you're coming from off continent thats why latency is so high | 16:33 |
| arnaudmez | Symmetria: i'm in africa currently but not in SA | 16:36 |
| arnaudmez | :-) | 16:36 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: i've got a nice command for you ethtool -i <name_of_your_interface> | 16:36 |
| arnaudmez | you get nice details about your interface | 16:37 |
| arnaudmez | ethtool --help | 16:37 |
| arnaudmez | hey sorry wasn't for here | 16:37 |
| Kilos | im lost there arnaudmez what interface do i want to look at? | 16:37 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: just in case you want to know more about your network interface | 16:38 |
| Kilos | oh ok ty | 16:38 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: i've got this for my network card http://slexy.org/view/s20lwkXf6o | 16:39 |
| Kilos | all that stuff is way above me arnaudmez , im a mechanic and farmer not an IT person | 16:40 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:40 |
| Kilos | and too old to learn new things in large amounts | 16:40 |
| Kilos | i plug my 3g modem into the back of my pc | 16:42 |
| arnaudmez | Kilos: even if you said you are a farmer i consider you are skilled on what you do | 16:43 |
| arnaudmez | so no excuses bro | 16:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:45 |
| arnaudmez | bye bye | 16:47 |
| arnaudmez | have to leave office | 16:47 |
| Kilos | cheers | 16:47 |
| Kilos | be good | 16:47 |
| arnaudmez | too late !!!! :-) | 16:47 |
| theblazehen | Alright, call me an idiot. Have fun: http://bpaste.net/raw/443686/ | 17:54 |
| Kilos | superfly, evening, did you see http://picpaste.com/screenshot_284335666-y5jjNoB3.png | 18:26 |
| Kilos | bart got tired of travelling all the way up for wood | 18:27 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, I've hardly been at my PC. I only just logged in | 18:27 |
| Kilos | eish sorry man | 18:27 |
| superfly | hahaha, good job Kilos, great thinking | 18:27 |
| Kilos | hehe ty | 18:27 |
| Kilos | thats at over 4ks down. now he can stay there | 18:28 |
| Kilos | and live on rats and apples | 18:29 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep warm | 18:39 |
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