[00:01] <diverdude> sorry, i was disconnected
[00:08] <sere> im trying to add shutdown, hibertnate, supsend, reboot,logout in my fluxbox menu, where can i find the commands
[00:10] <holstein> sere: i suppose you could always just add them manually.. or you could use a tray or panel that would provide an applet or applet support
[00:13] <lucaspc> hey, the window system is buggy
[00:13] <lucaspc> i tried to switch the windows of firefox and the system stop to respond
[00:15] <holstein> lucaspc: switch the windows?
[00:15] <lucaspc> yes, when you click in the icon and appear the windows of the same application
[00:15] <c_korn> when running uscan on my server I get this error. locally it runs fine: http://qa.debian.org/watch/sf.php/getchatty/ failed: 500 Can't connect to qa.debian.org:443 (certificate verify failed)
[00:24] <c_korn> ok, so wget has the same problem  http://sprunge.us/GVNK
[00:25] <holstein> you tried To connect to qa.debian.org insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.
[00:28] <c_korn> holstein: can I set this in some global config file so uscan just works?
[00:29] <c_korn> curl does not have the problem btw. seems to be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wget/+bug/733888 and my server still runs 12.04 which has 1.13.4 :/
[00:29] <holstein> c_korn: i would just try wget with the option suggested. --no-check-certificate
[00:29] <holstein> c_korn: why do you think its not an issue with the certificate?
[00:29] <c_korn> holstein: this option worksm thanks.
[00:32] <c_korn> holstein: well, firefox has no problem with the site
[00:33] <jay__> hey guys. is there a command using Xubuntu terminal to see all my installed software?
[00:35] <c_korn> jay__: try dpkg -l
[00:36] <jay__> c_korn, I tried googling it, but i thought dpkg was like apt but for debian?
[00:37] <c_korn> jay__: ubuntu and dpkg both have the same packaging system. this command works for both
[00:38] <jay__> hmm interesting. i thought they were totally separate DEs and had separate package management tools for the terminal
[00:39] <jay__> this worked i think c_korn but for some reason, it wouldn't let me scroll up past a certain point
[00:39] <jay__> i tried page up and home but it didn't work
[00:39] <c_korn> jay__: try dpkg -l | less
[00:43] <pooltable> help best fastest video convert?
[00:45] <lucaspc> keepvid.com
[00:45] <lucaspc> or ffmpeg
[00:45] <modernbob> pooltable: handbrake
[00:45] <function9> pooltable: handbrake
[00:47] <pooltable> it takes 5 hours that normal?
[00:48] <ThinkinLoudly> Hi. Can I update directly from 12.04LTS to 14.04LTS?
[00:49] <OerHeks> depends on what you convert, how, what hardware .. 5 hours can be fast.
[00:49] <pooltable> ThinkinLoudly yes
[00:53] <ThinkinLoudly> Thanks pooltable.  It will be sad to say goodbye to 12.04 ... for me it has been nothing but excellent!!
[00:54] <pooltable> ThinkinLoudly  sudo update-manager -d
[00:55] <pooltable> ThinkinLoudly  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[01:20] <asolchen> Just installed my first IRC client... does it work???
[01:21] <viki_> asolchen, yes it is working
[01:21] <asolchen> nice,  was wondering if there was anyone here
[01:23] <funtable> asolchen, works
[01:24] <zerothis> Has anyone yet investigated the feasibility of using Google Cardboard as a Display device for Linux? I realize VNC (or similar) should function for slow images. hardly seems suitable for games and videos though
[01:26] <jv115> you may want to join the #irchelp channel if you need help
[01:26] <zerothis> I searched months ago for an Android with HDMI input, fruitless. This would work well if it exists.
[01:27] <holstein> zerothis: if what exists?
[01:28] <zerothis> holstien: Android with HDMI input. I'd use a Google Cardboard for my Linux games.
[01:29] <holstein> if the machine exports hdmi, and cardboard accepts it, it'll work..
[01:52] <ItsMeLenny> could somebody please tell me how to stop half of the checks when the computer starts up, one that is bothering me is if there is no network cable plugged in it hangs for about 2 minutes
[01:53] <presonic> just ran 'apt-get install ssh' but after trying to run 'service ssh start' it says 'Unknown job: ssh'
[01:53] <holstein> !ssh
[01:54] <holstein> presonic: you probably want "openssh-server" and you dont have to start it like that..
[01:54] <presonic> openssh-server is installed
[01:54] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, I would see if this is the same in the guest to start with.
[01:54] <presonic> 22 is default port?
[01:55] <holstein> presonic: you can open a terminal on the machine and test that it is running with "ssh localhost"
[01:55] <holstein> presonic: 22 is default port..
[01:56] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, Never seen that here, however there are variables that may be the issue, start up applications, slow chip and low memory amongst others like a desktop to much for the computer hardware.
[01:56] <presonic> holstein: connection refused
[01:58] <holstein> presonic: in a terminal on the same machine.. locally.. as in on the same box.. "ssh localhost".. that reads "connection refused" ?
[01:58] <presonic> there is no sshd running
[01:58] <presonic> yes holstein
[01:58] <justin_jnf> what i can see here is he is trying to run a SSH inside a SSH screeen
[01:58] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, this is before login
[01:59] <ianorlin> holstein I think you would do that if you set keys only and didn't add a key for your local macihne
[01:59] <jay__> holstein, installed kupfer. i hit keys on my keyboard and nothing happens?
[01:59] <wheatthin> Are you trying to ssh as root?
[01:59] <wheatthin> if so that doensn't work
[01:59] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, so if cant be changed to guest or anything, this is boot up where the logo used to appear but inistead its now just white text on black writing
[01:59] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, And that devalues all I said?
[01:59] <holstein> presonic: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[01:59] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, well thered be no logging in with guest
[02:00] <holstein> jay__: is the question "how do you make kupfer work?".. i use the default sequence "control + space" after launching kupfer using "alt+f2" and entering "kupfer".. or "kupfer" in a terminal
[02:00] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, No but you have to choose it from the menu. My point is that it could be any number if things.
[02:00] <ItsMeLenny> in addition, the network in ubuntu runs as unmanaged, and once it boots i cant actually change any settings in the network program
[02:02] <jay__> holstein, i use my menu to launch kupfer. then onces it's open i start typing like it says to. nothing happens
[02:02] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, Was it this way from the day you installed?
[02:02] <Beldar> all these issues
[02:03] <ItsMeLenny> yes, but i never ran it without a network cord so i didnt know, but the umanaged network has always been the same
[02:03] <holstein> jay__: not sure what to tell you.. you see the popup? when pressing alt+space?
[02:03] <ItsMeLenny> if i try to add something it doesnt change the network, and at the moment my network is on 10.0.0 so if ichange to a 192.168.* network it has to be rebooted
[02:04] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny,  this is boot up where the logo used to appear but inistead its now just white text on black writing
 ItsMeLenny, And that devalues all I said?  This indicates not always the case.
[02:04] <jay__> yes i do holstein
[02:04] <holstein> jay__: thats where you type.. there are other ones of those.. if that one is not working for you for some reason..
[02:04] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, mt attached post ignore
[02:05] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, i dont mind the text, its just that its indicated that its the network thats hanging everything
[02:05] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, Its is?
[02:07] <jay__> holstein, it just plan doesn't let me type. it says tsype to search catagorie
[02:07] <jay__> but nothing happens what i type
[02:07] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, yes, it says something like "no access to network" then it hangs, then it says "waiting 10 more seconds for network"
[02:07] <holstein> jay__: ok.. try a different one, then.. its working here.. not sure what else to suggest
[02:07] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, So you see this in a text boot?
[02:09] <jay__> :( my search for menu or xfce menu's brings up nothing holstein
[02:09] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, yes, after grub, before login screen
[02:10] <ItsMeLenny> on a side note, does anybody know that linux applicatiion that showed a tonne more start up stuff
[02:10] <ItsMeLenny> to edit *
[02:10] <holstein> !Info launchy
[02:10] <holstein> jay__: did you try "launchy" ?
[02:11] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, Than that is the issue, I would stick with that rather than your original "could somebody please tell me how to stop half of the checks when the computer starts up" exact details are the key here, if you had just posted that we would never of had a conversation, I have no answer for that. ;)
[02:11] <jay__> i will now holstein
[02:12] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, good point, but theres also other things i want to disable
[02:12] <MrHeavy> I'm trying to add a key with apt-key and it's giving me "gpg: CRC error; 3C79EB - 7CEBF3" on my key file. Any idea what might be up?
[02:12] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, Understandable, I would approach one at a time to start with is all, if someone has answers that address others,
[02:13] <Beldar> than*
[02:13] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, Or at least be exact on each one is all. ;)
[02:13] <ItsMeLenny> true, good point i do admit
[02:14] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, it is easy to do no biggie. ;)
[02:14] <MrHeavy> nm, the keyserver somehow ended up serving something other than my public key, neat
[02:19] <YokoBR> guys, how do i use 32bit sdl2 on ubuntu 64bit?
[02:24] <ItsMeLenny> Beldar, whats the process :P
[02:25] <Beldar> ItsMeLenny, I assume you mean getting help here if so this link is helpful. https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[02:28] <edition> openoffice wont install.
[02:29] <tracyone> how to add vpn in ubuntu 14.04
[02:29] <ItsMeLenny> edition, not a fan of libreoffice?
[02:29] <edition> no, sorry
[02:29] <holstein> edition: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[02:30] <edition> already have libreoffice, I want to try Apache OpenOffice.
[02:30] <edition> another question: why write an office suite in Java?
[02:30] <holstein> edition: you can use http://askubuntu.com/questions/116590/how-do-i-install-openoffice-org-instead-of-libreoffice or however they suggest you install at https://www.openoffice.org/
[02:31] <edition> it can install from the .debs, but it needs 1gb of dependencies (!)
[02:31] <holstein> edition: it'll need what it needs.. you can ask the creators about making it more "friendly"
[02:31] <edition> that thread from askubuntu works fine. Thanks!
[02:32] <paco123> does anybody know of a midi equalizer? that is to say, a graphical program to control volume levels of individual midi instruments playing through fluidsynth or timidity
[02:32] <edition> Gnumeric can change the numeric scale of a chart, but LibreOffice calc cannot
[02:32] <edition> Jack?
[02:33] <holstein> paco123: yeah, you can load up jack rack, and route what you like there
[02:33] <edition> qsynth, or something...
[02:34] <edition> what MIDI config are you looking for?
[02:34] <paco123> qsynth is nice, but it deals with all the instruments at the same time
[02:34] <edition> linuxsampler?
[02:35] <edition> do you intend to record these instruments?
[02:36] <holstein> there is a mixer in JACK.. you can make whatever you like. though, i would probably load them up in ardour3 or qtractor or a larger GUI with mixing capability for MIDI
[02:36] <paco123> I did not know about linuxsampler, it might be what I'm looking for, I'll investigate more
[02:37] <paco123> I'm intending to use BB (band in a box), which works perfectly in wine, with fluidsynth or timidity, and I'd like to change volume levels of any instrument playing if I want
[02:37] <holstein> paco123: you can try #opensourcmusicians
[02:37] <edition> theres heaps of youtube demos of Ardour with instruments
[02:37] <holstein> paco123: you wont get granular control through wine like that.. but, you can replace band in a box with something native.. improvisor or just load the files up in qtractor
[02:38] <edition> how do i get better at answering questions?
[02:40] <paco123> I just need this program similar to qsynth, but with ability to change volume levels from different instruments, instead of a single master volume
[02:40] <paco123> I will investigate more about improvisor, thanks for your suggestions both edition holstein
[02:41] <paco123> perhaps linuxsampler will do the job?
[02:41] <holstein> paco123: sure.. check out one of the large GUI's and well ardour3 is well supported.. qtractor is popular
[02:41] <holstein> paco123: linuxsampler doesnt have seperate controls like that, but with JACK, you can route *anything* into a mixer like you are trying to do
[02:41] <paco123> but I can't use ardour nor qtractor at the moment, I need to use BB
[02:42] <holstein> paco123: im only suggesting you fire them up and look at the possiblilities.. band in a box in wine is going to fail and fall short for your needs
[02:43] <paco123> I hope I'll find an open source alternative in the long term, but it's working fine so far. I just needed this equalizer.
[02:43] <reisio> I thought band-in-a-box worked fine in Wine
[02:43] <holstein> paco123: you dont even need an open sources one.. you need a linux one.. one that support the operating system you are using.. there are many
[02:44] <holstein> you wont get granular controls in wine of the audio.. but, mixing and sending out the mix should work fine..
[02:44] <paco123> I have an equalizer program, Edirol hyper canvas, which works fine in VirtualBox, but fails to work in wine
[02:44] <reisio> you could use jack for win32 via wine maybe :p
[02:44] <holstein> paco123: you just do the mixing in band in a box.. you wont get anything to work like that for wine
[02:44] <edition> no, no, no
[02:44] <paco123> but wine is using my fluidsynth or timidity daemons, I want to be able to control the daemons, that's all holstein
[02:44] <holstein> nah. jack and wine are not great.. kxstudio is the "best" for all you can do with jack and wine..
[02:45] <holstein> at #kxstudio ..built on ubuntu, so al the ppas work here
[02:45] <holstein> not supported here* but work on ubuntu, is what im saying..
[02:47] <paco123> I'll see what I can do, thanks anyways
[02:48] <holstein> paco123: also, renoise is a nice commercial option..
[02:49] <paco123> thanks but I'm interested
[02:49] <paco123> I mean, I'm not interested
[02:50] <holstein> sure.. you'll do better to get on natvie applications ASAP.. good luck.. (even if that means going back to windows, if band in a box is vital)
[02:51] <reisio> works fine via wine :)
[02:51] <paco123> sure reisio, but I want this equalizer that doesn't
[02:52] <paco123> anyway I can use virtualbox
[02:53] <holstein> paco123: band in a box *has* a mixer..
[02:53] <paco123> which version holstein ?
[02:54] <paco123> I'm using bb 2006
[02:54] <reisio> aren't all equalizers pretty much the same?
[02:54] <paco123> it has an option to add an dxi synth, but you have to install it separately, and doesn't work with wine
[02:54] <holstein> paco123: i dont use window.. or band in a box. but, i have helped friends with it, and used the mixer to mix instruments for them
[02:54] <reisio> aebersold is probably a little more tolerable than biab clunking
[02:55] <holstein> paco123: you dont need a synth.. you just want to control the levels of the internal insruments.. i would do that in the application itself. eq them there. mix them there.. then, it'll work fine in wine..
[02:55] <Beldar> reisio, I have every jazz play along abersold, heh
[02:55] <Beldar> aebersold*
[02:56] <paco123> it's a good idea holstein, but my bb version doesn't have the built-in mixer, I'll see which version includes it
[02:57] <holstein> paco123: AFAIK, they all offer some way of controlling levels of instruments.. thats the idea, you can kill an instrument and play along. or whatever
[02:58] <paco123> yes, that's right, you can kill an instrument within bb, but (in this 2006 version) you can't control the volume levels
[02:58] <edition> blender uses the cpu, but hardly any of the RAM
[02:58] <edition> ?
[02:59] <paco123> sorry, yes, you can control them holstein, but not with a graphical mixer
[02:59] <reisio> Beldar: most are pretty awful :p
[03:00] <holstein> paco123: then, do that.. that is before wine, and will work fine.. gives you the control you want in linux
[03:00] <reisio> it's kind of unfortunate people sit alone in a room to learn how to mime improvisation with aebersolds or biab
[03:00] <paco123> yes, it isn't nice, but it works
[03:00] <reisio> instead of having fun jamming with others in person
[03:00] <reisio> making up actual inventive lines for teh benefit of all
[03:01] <Beldar> reisio, True, I like the coltrane ones being a tenor player, I have played publicly I studied music, but for learning a tune at time they can be helpful.
[03:01] <MuffinMedic> I'm having a bit of trouble with UFW. it's blocking a connection that is set to be allowed
[03:01] <MrHeavy> Anyone know if there's a way to delete GPG signatures from a .deb file? dpkg-sig seems to be useless here
[03:02] <paco123> holstein, qsynth does practically the same, let's me turn on or off each instrument, or change the instruments, but can't control volume levels, that's the only thing I miss, but I'll control that part inside bb
[03:02] <holstein> paco123: thats literally the only option
[03:02] <holstein> paco123: actually, that or the band in a box linux edition
[03:03] <paco123> I don't think so holstein, there must be an option to change volume levels of each different instrument in timidity or fluidsynth or any other software midi synthesizer
[03:03] <Beldar> reisio, If you want to prac countdown or giant steps a play along or metronome can help at some times, but not the same as playing with your peers and actual improv yeah.
[03:04] <holstein> paco123: using JACK, you can.. as suggested.. you can route *each* instrument seperately  through a JACK mixer instance.. and mix.. but, you wont get that from band in a box, likely
[03:04] <reisio> if you want to end up with 20 variations on giant steps the way coltrane did :p
[03:05] <paco123> are you sure jack works that way? I used it a couple of times and it only let me configure midi-in, midi-out, and midi-through
[03:06] <holstein> paco123: correct.. you add jack mixer, and route *anything* into it
[03:06] <holstein> paco123: with jack, you can connect anything and everything.. hardware and software. that presents it self to jack like that..
[03:07] <holstein> and, most things do.. but, if you are already using a few midi instruments, you can route them in jack to jack mixer. and create either analog audio controls or midi level controls, and mix
[03:07] <holstein> paco123: http://home.gna.org/jackmixer/
[03:07] <paco123> I'll definitely check it out, thank you holstein !
[03:10] <telmac> does ubuntu no longer distribute netinsts?
[03:11] <xangua> !find netinsts
[03:11] <icedwater> Does anyone else have a display bug with xfreerdp where pressing enter toggles On-All-Workspaces (in Unity as well as in Openbox, apparently)? I have Ubuntu 12.04...
[03:11] <holstein> !mini | telmac
[03:11] <telmac> xangua: you know what a netinst is
[03:11] <holstein> telmac: thats similar..
[03:11] <icedwater> !find freerdp-x11
[03:11] <telmac> holstein: ah, thanks
[03:11] <Blue11> network install?
[03:11] <telmac> holstein: same idea, I didn't know what you guys called it
[03:11] <icedwater> !show freerdp-x11
[03:12] <xangua> telmac: I know what a net install is, no idea netinst, I use plain english
[03:12] <telmac> xangua: I think I've literall never typed out net install
[03:12] <ItsMeLenny> i found the program i was looking for, it is "bum"
[03:12] <telmac> literally*
[03:13] <reisio> ItsMeLenny: what's 'bum' do?
[03:14] <ItsMeLenny> reisio, boot-up manager, not to be confused with start-up manager, which is why it took me so long to remember because i kept searching for start0up
[03:14] <blderunner060> I've never logged into here before...if we're lookin' for help, is this the place to ask?
[03:14] <holstein> blderunner060: yes.. just ask :)
[03:15] <Blue11> unlike the government, we are here to help.
[03:15] <edition> the US gov, or NZ gov?
[03:15] <blderunner060> I can't get my touchpad recognized in mouse settings...and even though it comes up "SynapticsTouch Pad V 1.03U3"
[03:15] <Blue11> u.s.
[03:15] <blderunner060> it says synaptics driver isn't installed
[03:15] <edition> NZ is NOT A STATE of America. AND Never Will bE
[03:16] <holstein> blderunner060: recognized? you, mean, you just want the text to read correctly? or is the touchpad not working?
[03:16] <blderunner060> It works
[03:16] <blderunner060> it just isn't recognized as a touchpad...
[03:16] <blderunner060> so no touchpad settings
[03:16] <reisio> ItsMeLenny: yeah, awful names
[03:16] <holstein> blderunner060: then thats all there is to it
[03:16] <blderunner060> I don't care that scrolling doesn't work
[03:16] <holstein> blderunner060: what settings are you trying to implement? it can be challenging for some hardware with poorer support for linux..
[03:16] <blderunner060> but it's a big touchpad...so holding my hands all high when I type starts to suck
[03:17]  * edition stabs the touchpad with a swiss knife
[03:17] <ItsMeLenny> http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html
[03:17]  * reisio giggles
[03:18] <blderunner060> I've tried every fix I've seen online, I even installed a newer kernel than the one that came with 14.10
[03:18] <blderunner060> so it's a fresh install...except for what I've messed with trying to get it to wrok
[03:18] <blderunner060> *work (my typing has gone to crap by holding my hands all awkwardly)
[03:18] <holstein> blderunner060: you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad and  it'll likely be the more manual settings
[03:18] <Blue11> oddly mine is recognised correctly for what it is:  cirque touchpad
[03:19] <holstein> blderunner060: try completely disable option, just to see if you can control it
[03:19] <blderunner060> Completely disable what option, @holstein?
[03:19] <holstein> blderunner060: it'll likely be a matter of finding an xorg.conf to put in place for your needs.. i would try and undo whatever you have done
[03:20] <holstein> blderunner060: the option in the link i gave for "completely disable the touchpad".. you'll be able to see if yo uhave control.. and there are xorg.conf options at the bottom
[03:20] <blderunner060> Well, it's a pretty new install, so I can always just re-install. Haven't done much yet.
[03:20] <blderunner060> I can do all mouse type-y things.
[03:20] <blderunner060> I just cant' get the touchpad settings working
[03:20] <blderunner060> synclient says
[03:20] <holstein> blderunner060: if you are running a 14.10 kernel, undo that
[03:21] <holstein> blderunner060: can you  specifically refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad ?
[03:21] <blderunner060> Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[03:21] <holstein> blderunner060: are yo uable to disable the touchpad?
[03:21] <blderunner060> @holstein: that article doesn't help, because synclient doesn't work
[03:21] <blderunner060> Or, if I'm missing something, it's cause I'm dumb
[03:21] <blderunner060> which is always a possibility
[03:23] <holstein> blderunner060: i would get with this bug report.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1336086
[03:23] <blderunner060> lol, @holstein
[03:23] <blderunner060> that's my bug report
[03:24] <blderunner060> I was just hoping that maybe because it hadn't gotten an answer
[03:24] <blderunner060> it was because I was missing something stupid
[03:24] <holstein> well, thats all you can do
[03:24] <holstein> i think you will find a way to address it in an xorg.conf
[03:24] <holstein> can you disable the pad?
[03:25] <holstein> blderunner060: what does this list? xinput list
[03:25] <blderunner060> xinput settings work
[03:26] <blderunner060> I can do anything with xinput
[03:26] <WACOMalt> Hey folks. Sorry of this is offtopic, but can anyone recommend a good VPN server I can use? I want security, and lack of throttling youtube and the like.
[03:26] <blderunner060> it's synclient that seems not to
[03:26] <holstein> blderunner060: thats what i would try and implement.
[03:26] <holstein> blderunner060: you have no guarnatee synclient can support that hardware
[03:26] <blderunner060> @WACOMalt, I use PrivateInternetAccess, but I'm not expert
[03:26]  * reactor16 Hi ALl
[03:26] <WACOMalt> thanks for the recommendation, I'll check them out
[03:27] <blderunner060> @holstein: xinput lists  SynapticsTouch Pad V 1.03U3
[03:27] <blderunner060> I've found literally NOTHING about that by googling it
[03:27] <reactor16> how i can install arm-elf-toolchain ?
[03:28] <reisio> reactor16: ask apt-file
[03:28] <reactor16> not found in repo's
[03:28] <reisio> have to find it elsewhere, then
[03:28] <reactor16> reisio, E: Unable to locate package arm-elf-toolchain
[03:29] <reactor16> can you link me ?
[03:29] <blderunner060> @holstein, is there a setting in xinput to shut the mouse off when typing?
[03:29] <reisio> google.com can
[03:29] <reisio> blderunner060: no, but you could utilize xinput with a script to manage it
[03:29] <reisio> there are probably premade packages for that, though
[03:30] <reisio> you could probably poll xidle time, that'd be easy enough
[03:30] <reactor16> i  can't find it using google !!!!
[03:30] <reisio> if idletime > intervalofchoice, re-enable
[03:31] <edition> where can I find great themes for libreoffice Impress?
[03:32] <blderunner060> @reisio: I have no idea how to do that
[03:32] <blderunner060> I am....not smart
[03:36] <reisio> blderunner060: well, I'm sure there are premade packages for that anyways :)
[03:36] <reisio> but if it were me, I'd rather manually hit Fn+whatever to toggle the touchpad being enabled
[03:37] <blderunner060> Yeah, I suppose that'll work. Thanks!
[03:40] <ianorlin> I currently have nano set as my editor for editing crontabs from a long time ago but want to change it to vim
[03:40] <ianorlin> so how do I change the crontab editor
[03:43] <motdd> hi for free znc account #zncTR or irc.zekirdek.org #znc
[03:43] <pavlos> ianorlin, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-the-default-editor-from-nano-on-ubuntu-linux/
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> motdd: this is not the channel for advertising
[03:43] <somsip> ianorlin: select-editor
[03:44] <ianorlin> thanks somsip
[03:45] <reisio> motdd: hope you like being banned :)
[03:48] <darklessness> helo
[03:48] <motdd> hello
[03:48] <reisio> 'lo
[03:48] <darklessness> at work its 07:48 here,,
[03:49] <motdd> how to can i change host?
[03:49] <motdd>  bbx (~zx@ma.sdf.org) Çýktý (Changing host)
[03:49] <motdd> [06:48] * Giriþ: bbx (~zx@unaffiliated/bluebitx)
[03:50] <darklessness> motdd: do you mean hostname
[03:51] <motdd> yes
[03:51] <darklessness> motdd: go to /etc/sysconfig
[03:51] <motdd> for irc user host?
[03:52] <motdd> pear.bnc4free.com
[03:52] <darklessness> motdd: wait
[03:52] <darklessness> motdd: oh ok dont know
[03:53] <motdd> ok thnaks
[03:53] <darklessness> motdd: there is another channel specific for freenode
[03:55] <Lyte101> my ubuntu 12.04 stop turning off my monitor after 10 minutes, any know a solution?
[03:56] <reisio> Lyte101: well, you could take it as an opportunity to update from your ancient distro version to something more contemporary
[03:59] <Lyte101> reisio, ya that's my next option if I can get a fix
[04:00] <darklessness> join #httpd
[04:00] <reisio> Lyte101: just seems you've been on this issue for a while :)
[04:00] <reisio> I'm afraid I don't know GNOME well enough to help you
[04:00] <reisio> you might could ask #gnome about which bits to check
[04:00] <reisio> to make sure your power management stuff is running
[04:00] <reisio> and still properly configured, etc.
[04:01] <Lyte101> reisio, haha ya but i just check in to see if maybe someone came in that would know
[04:01] <reisio> you probably updated some package
[04:01] <reisio> and now it's b0rked for whatever reason
[04:02] <reisio> or you didn't, and now its config is b0rked for whatever reason
[04:19] <ZekirdekIRC> hi
[04:20] <reisio> ohio
[04:35] <thevoiceman> cual es la finalidad de este chat
[04:37] <xangua> !topic | thevoiceman
[04:37] <thevoiceman> nuevamente pregunto!!! cual es la finalidad de este chat?
[04:37] <thevoiceman> where
[04:53] <bukai> Hi, i want to install oracle java instead of open java on my ubuntu server will the apt-get command install open java by default?
[04:54] <cemotyz09> i believe you'd have to download from oracle site directly
[04:55] <Abhijit> bukai, no.
[04:55] <hichamat> I cant install 'proj' : apt-get install proj
[04:56] <bukai> Abhijit: it will install oracle java ?
[04:56] <Abhijit> bukai, check the webupd8 site
[04:56] <hichamat> package proj is not available, but it reffered to be another package
[04:57] <Abhijit> Abhijit, it will not.
[04:57] <Abhijit> bad.
[04:58] <bukai> i tried but , on giving this command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:... i am getting:- sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[04:58] <Abhijit> bukai, it will not install oracle java by default. you have to enable tho webupd8 repo . that will download one software wihch will in turn installl the oracle java
[04:59] <Abhijit> bukai, please do cat /etc/*-release and pastebin the output?
[05:01] <bukai> Abhijit, http://paste.kde.org/pxil5qweg
[05:03] <Abhijit> bukai, can you do sudo with other commands?
[05:04] <bukai> yes
[05:05] <Vo1d> hello
[05:05] <Bashing-om> bukai: Release 12.10 is End-Of-Life, no longer supported and the software repository has been turned down.
[05:06] <bukai> then how do i install oracle java in it?
[05:06] <Vo1d> I use command cabal, and I installed the sources, but when I run sudo cabal then:
[05:06] <Vo1d> sudo: cabal: command not found
[05:06] <Vo1d> things idea ?
[05:08] <Abhijit> bukai, just manually download from oracle or java website
[05:08] <Bashing-om> bukai: The only recommended course of action is install a current release.
[05:08] <bukai> Abhijit, thanks.
[05:14] <Beldar>  Vo1d What is your goal, what is cabal?
[05:16] <Vo1d> Beldar, cabal is a package, it is equal then Gem or  pypil I installed not repositories, else from sources,
[05:16] <Beldar> Vo1d, never heard of any of those can't help.
[05:16] <Vo1d> cabal use with Haskell program language
[05:17] <Vo1d> ok Beldar , thanks :s
[05:18] <Abhijit> Vo1d, may be try #haskel
[05:19] <Vo1d> yes Abhijit is haskel
[05:19] <xx> Hello everyone, I am using XUbuntu(14.04) system, I can't use my notebook's  keyborad to adjust volume,how can fix that
[05:19] <Vo1d> thanks Abhijit
[05:19] <Abhijit> Vo1d, type /join #haskel to join haskel channel. those people may help you
[05:20] <Vo1d> thanks Abhijit
[05:40] <MuffinMedic> so UFW is blocking things i explicitly allowed. any ideas?
[05:44] <Abhijit> MuffinMedic, details?
[05:45] <MuffinMedic> i set a few allow rules and the connections are being denied. when i go into the logs it shows [UFW BLOCK] with a match to the port i allowed
[05:45] <rainbowwarrior> hello i am using a 300Mbps Wireless N USB Adapter TL-WN821N on a desktop pc under Ubuntu 14.4 and i can see other wireless networks apart from my own home one, how can i solve this please ?
[05:46] <ax9> My ass is in trouble if i home-host a simple one-page html trough raspberry pi with nginx?
[05:47] <holstein> ax9: you mean, your ISP doesnt allow it?
[05:48] <ax9> no, is just some guys told me to be careful with hackers and stuff, i'm the only person that will access the site.
[05:49] <holstein> ax9: are you asking a question?
[05:50] <ax9> yes
[05:50] <holstein> ax9: ok.. go for it
[05:53] <jnhghy> hi, I have a usb drive that doesn't get mounted, I inserted it and run fdisk -l but it still doesn't appear in the list, is there anything else that I can try? or it's trash time?
[05:54] <coffe> Is there any solution yet for the issue with dual screens and having to kill gnome-settings deamon ?
[05:54] <holstein> jnhghy: other machines maybe.. not showing in fdisk is not a good thing..
[05:54] <holstein> coffe: is there a bug report?
[05:55] <jnhghy> holstein: already tried it on another 2 machines ... thanks...
[05:55] <rainbowwarrior> hello i am using a 300Mbps Wireless N USB Adapter TL-WN821N on a desktop pc under Ubuntu 14.4 and i can see other wireless networks apart from my own home one, how can i solve this please ?
[05:55] <coffe> holstein, yes,, when i did search for a fix a some time ago i found a bug report..  but i am using gnome-ubuntu not native ubuntu
[05:56] <holstein> jnhghy: i had one that didnt show, and i got it to read in xp years back.. but, it died soon after, so i cant say it was related
[05:56] <holstein> coffe: is it gnome from the repos? if its from a PPA, it'll be up to the maintainers of the code to maintain
[05:57] <Ben64> jnhghy: what does dmesg say
[05:57] <jnhghy> holstein: it did worked on xp :))
[05:57] <coffe> holstein, its from the repos.
[05:58] <rgenito> halp :( what do i do?  http://pastie.org/9362910
[05:58]  * rgenito is sad
[05:58] <jnhghy> holstein: I'd never thought to try it on a xp machine, thanks for the suggestion...
[05:58] <holstein> coffe: you can file a bug report then..
[05:58] <holstein> !bug
[05:59] <holstein> jnhghy: well, it was a short lived "fix" for me, but good luck
[05:59] <Ben64> rgenito: pastebin the full output of "sudo apt-get update"
[05:59] <coffe> holstein,  checked bug reports its a confirmed bug.
[05:59] <rgenito> Ben64, ok
[05:59] <holstein> coffe: sure.. so, you can share the bug # here if you'd like a volunteer to help you look it over, and see if a "fix" is there, or coming, or whatever you are wanting to know...
[06:00] <rgenito> Ben64, http://pastie.org/private/b9crydyiyfwbb7koupe8tq
[06:00] <coffe> holstein,  ofc .. #1292398,
[06:00] <coffe> holstein, in he bug report seems they are working on it.
[06:01] <Ben64> rgenito: yep, looks like a problem with spotify's repository, you should contact them about it
[06:01] <Ben64> bug #1292398
[06:01] <Ben64> coffe: doesn't sound like what you're saying...?
[06:02] <rgenito> Ben64, those bastards :(
[06:02] <rgenito> Ben64, so how do i fix the issue? I'm unable to install anything... i'm unable to update software :(
[06:02] <rgenito> just remove spotify's repository?
[06:02] <Ben64> rgenito: no need for the language, and yeah, that'd work
[06:02] <coffe> Ben64,  then i am not saying my issue right .. as that is exactly what my problem is ..  one fix is to kill gnome-settings-manager
[06:02] <rgenito> Ben64 please let me know which language you found unacceptable, and i'll refrain from it here
[06:02] <rgenito> OH, i see now... sorry
[06:03] <rgenito> ty for your help :)
[06:03] <Guest84839> what the hell  is this linux shit i started my computer one day and windows was gone and linux was there
[06:03] <Ben64> coffe: if you have nvidia, can't  you configure it using nvidia-settings ?
[06:04] <Guest84839> i had xp
[06:04] <coffe> ben64 i can after i logged in move everything to right places.. but next reboot and they are back to old again.. having this on both my home computers and at work
[06:05] <Guest84839> how do i get rid of linux
[06:05] <coffe> Guest84839,  Hi, so you did not install anything ?
[06:05] <Ben64> coffe: well in nvidia-settings theres an option to save the current configuration to the xorg.conf, which should make it start up by default
[06:05] <Guest84839> i dont have nvidia
[06:05] <Ben64> Guest84839: join ##windows for tips on installing Windows
[06:05] <coffe> Ben64,  i know.. and sadly no its not working ..  i have tested all them things.. clearing out xorg.conf
[06:06] <Ben64> coffe: then i don't know what to say. wait for a fix?
[06:06] <Loshki> Just upgraded to 14.04 and no sound (sound card intel ALC1200). I can't believe this problem is back again. Can someone help?
[06:06] <coffe> Ben64,  i will . continue to kill gnome-setting on every boot.. where just checking if anyone know there where a better permentant fix for it .
[06:07] <Guest84839> i fucking hate ubuntu and want it gone help
[06:07] <coffe> ben64 holstein thnx for the help and your good work *tumbs up*
[06:08] <Ben64> Guest84839: that sort of language is not appropriate here. when you can form a coherent support question following the channel guidelines, feel free to ask
[06:08] <Guest84839> fuck u
[06:08] <Ben64> !ops | Guest84839
[06:09] <Guest84839> fuck u fuck u suck my dick
[06:10] <Fall> wow
[06:11] <Fall> we're dealing with a badass here
[06:11]  * Fall stops feeding trolls
[06:13] <MACscr> anyone see anything in my /etc/default/grub file that would prevent a default selection from being picked?
[06:13] <MACscr> seems the timeout isnt working
[06:13] <MACscr> http://pastie.org/pastes/9362937/text?key=69cfrxci978unmfo5lkukq
[06:13] <MACscr> or even running
[06:15] <coffe> MACscr, you have runned update-grub ?
[06:15] <MACscr> yes, but that would only apply my changes
[06:15] <MACscr> i dont see what im doing wrong
[06:15] <coffe> MACscr, you file looks like mine ..
[06:16] <MACscr> the only thing i did was make it so that the grub menu would show and also removed the quiet and splash
[06:17] <coffe> MACscr, from what i can see.. the file looks right.
[06:18] <MACscr> coffe: mind doing a diff to double check?
[06:19] <coffe> MACscr,  no ... hang on .
[06:19] <Ben64> MACscr: what exactly did you change, and how
[06:20] <MACscr> coffe: lol, why didnt you use pastebin?
[06:21] <coffe> MACscr,  i like flooding :P  gnome-xchat did not support simple copy and paste buffers..
[06:24] <MACscr> I only have puppet doing the following:
[06:24] <MACscr> sed -i 's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=\).*/\1\"\"/g' /etc/default/grub
[06:24] <MACscr> sed -i 's/GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0/#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0/g' /etc/default/grub
[06:24] <MACscr> so that should be fine
[06:30] <coffe> MACscr,  btw there is a puppet module for doing search and replace things.. so one dont have to fiddle around with sed..  it will add a line if its missing and so on ,
[06:33] <nir0> hi guys, i need to remove a part of a script that already executed, how do i do that?
[06:33] <nir0> i mean script is huge
[06:33] <nir0> like 120 mbytes
[06:36] <arman> hi! I have KDE on my ubuntu 14.04 and every time I login a battery error say's that my battery capacity is 6%. there is no such an error on gonome or win8. I checked with a battery program on win 8 and the battery is healthy. I think it's a bug with KDE. I have lenovo ideapad z510i
[06:37] <MACscr> coffe: i lied, thats  actually part of my finish template for a pxe install using foreman
[06:38] <coffe> MACscr,  i like puppet.. but for them things .. i let puppet run fabric..
[06:38] <MACscr> eh, i dont have time to learn another tool
[06:39] <MACscr> nor time to create all those config templates, etc
[06:39] <MACscr> not for simple changes at least
[06:47] <VaticanCameos> On a new HP laptop, which Ubuntu version should I ideally install? On my current, I am on 12.04LTS.
[06:48] <bugzee> 14 is LTS as well, you should upgrade
[06:49] <VaticanCameos> bugzee: I've heard a lot of people complaining about 14 having some unexpected bugs.
[06:49] <bugzee> hmm
[06:50] <bugzee> I'm not getting any bugs, but I don't have vanilla ubuntu
[06:50] <bugzee> I have linux lite beryl which is ubuntu 14 and nothing's wrong for me
[06:52] <fake> i want a linux user friend anyone can help me? XD
[06:53] <Beldar> VaticanCameos, You aware of UEFI installs?
 There is always something wrong that we call it bug, but it's not really a bug
[06:54] <Beldar> !topic | fake
[06:54] <helmut_> hi
[06:55] <Abhijit> fake, find your local lug
[06:55] <VaticanCameos> Beldar: Yes, I'm aware of UEFI...but I don't think the laptop that I'm buying has UEFI problems. People usually state so in their reviews.
[06:55] <Beldar> VaticanCameos, Does it have windows 8?
[06:56] <VaticanCameos> Beldar: No it's on FreeDOS. that's why I gravitated towards it
[06:56] <Beldar> VaticanCameos, As long as your aware, that was my question.
[06:58] <jnhghy> how can I use rename to make all sub-folders and all sub files uppercase? I see in the man page how to do it for lowercase but I need it for upper case ...
[07:01] <arman> hi! I have KDE on my ubuntu 14.04 and every time I login a battery error say's that my battery capacity is 6%. there is no such an error on gonome or win8. I checked with a battery program on win 8 and the battery is healthy. I think it's a bug with KDE. I have lenovo ideapad z510i
[07:02] <Beldar> arman, How old is the kde install?
[07:03] <arman> Beldar, just 25 or 6 days.
[07:09] <TimRiker> ubuntu trusty 14.04 install. I run "startx" to get into x. as I don't run it all the time. when I start unity-panel-service is not running. no volume control. can't figure why it's not starting.
[07:10] <Beldar> TimRiker, start x is deprecated don't run it
[07:12] <TimRiker> Beldar, so how do I start x from a console?
[07:13] <Beldar> TimRiker, service lightdm start
[07:14] <somsip> TimRiker: I used startx on a minimal install before I put an alternative login manager on (not lightDM). It worked fine
[07:14] <TimRiker> might as well try the so-called lightdm. bbiab.
[07:14] <somsip> Beldar: can you give a source to show startx is deprecated?
[07:15] <Beldar> somsip, No but it is common knowledge all over this channel.
[07:16] <somsip> Beldar: if you can't source it, you shouldn't pass it on as advice. I'd be interested to know if it really has been deprecated *entirely*, not just because lightDM is the default login manager now
[07:16] <Beldar> somsip, Hmm, I see the mods do it all the time, your are wrong here.
[07:17] <Beldar> police someone who needs it. ;)
[07:18] <somsip> Beldar: not policing at all - I want to make sure I am up to date with my understanding of it
[07:20] <chreuben> somsip: I’ve found no evidence that startx is deprecated.
[07:21] <somsip> chreuben: still looking here but seems active in xinit package.
[07:21] <somsip> chreuben & Beldar: they're still fixing things in it according to the changelog, so it doesn't look deprecated to me http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/x/xinit/xinit_1.3.2-1/changelog
[07:29] <paulo_> hello
[07:29] <paulo_> what kernel version comes with the 12.04 installer?
[07:34] <Beldar> paulo_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Ubuntu_Kernel_3.11
[07:35] <Beldar> 12.04.4 that is
[07:36] <Beldar> might have the trusty stack now not sure that was the closest I could find. paulo_
[07:36] <paulo_> umm i'm confused why trusty uses 3.13 when the newest is 3.16
[07:37] <Beldar> paulo_, my utopic only has 3.15, the newest out does not mena it is in theubuntu repos for install.
[07:38] <paulo_> oh yeah sorry i meant 3.15
[07:39] <paulo_> thing is i'm trying to find a kernel with a specific bug
[07:39] <paulo_> i want to try to play with it
[07:39] <paulo_> is there an ubuntu that uses 3.14.x where x <= 5?
[07:40] <paulo_> or am I supposed to install the kernel manually?
[07:41] <NetworkRenderer> shiiiiiiiiiiit
[07:41] <NetworkRenderer> :D
[07:41] <NetworkRenderer> sorry just a little bit of trolling :D
[07:42] <paulo_> hmm it looks like i will need to install the kernel manually. but which ubuntu version do you recommend to pair with the kernel?
[07:44] <Beldar> paulo_, one that is supported, none of this is actual support by the way.
[07:45] <paulo_> this looks promising though: http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-linux-kernel-3-14-5-ubuntu-14-04-linux-mint-17/
[07:45] <paulo_> so it looks like i'll use 14.04
[07:46] <TimRiker> well, using lightdm does get me the unity-panel-service, but still no volume app. control panel volume shows outputs, and tests work.
[07:46] <dpe> my wireless light is now flashing, anyone know how I can get it to stop?
[07:47] <Beldar> dpe, I believe it flashes when in use cover it with a piece of tape if it bothers you.
[07:48] <dpe> I have 12.04 64bit
[07:48] <dpe> I've installed this version before on this unit
[07:49] <dpe> and it hasn't flashed before. Showed the wrong color while connected but never flashing
[07:49] <paulo_> dpe: sometime the lights are driver dependent
[07:49] <dpe> Yeah that's what I was thinking
[07:49] <paulo_> e.g. on mine, the adapter flashes on windows, on ubuntu it doesnt
[07:51] <dpe> my additional drivers are somewhat clear, but I just installed last night
[07:51] <dpe> anyone here use blacktrack5?'
[07:52] <D30> hello all... is it possible to mount a drive with a ZFS file system in to a ubuntu machine?? it will be detected automatically? or should we install zfs first in ubuntu??
[07:52] <somsip> dpe: maybe you mean Backtrack, and if so, it's not supported here
[07:53] <dpe> backtrack, sorry my typo
[07:53] <somsip> dpe: still not supported here
[07:53] <Beldar> !backtrack  dpe
[07:53] <dpe> I know
[07:53] <Beldar> !backtrack | dpe
[07:54] <dpe> thanks guys, a simple no would've worked
[07:54] <Beldar> backtrack is eol kali is its next development
[07:54] <hdon> hi all :) i'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with compiz. SDL 2 vsync isn't working. anyone have any idea?
[07:54] <dpe> I use it BT5
[07:55] <dpe> Compiz always messes up
[07:56] <Beldar> dpe> anyone here use blacktrack5?' NO is incorrect who knows who uses backtrack.
[07:57] <molsson> I noticed a serious memory leak when using i3 window manager on 14.04 ("dunst" package) ... upstream has a patch that works... who can merge the patch to ubuntu?
[07:57] <somsip> molsson: how did you install i3? Normal repo or from elsewhere?
[07:58] <molsson> somsip: normal package when I hit the leak... right now I've rebuilt it with one extra upstream patch to plug the leak
[07:58] <somsip> molsson: probably to file a bug against the i3 package in launchpad
[07:58] <somsip> *..best...
[07:58] <molsson> somsip: I did --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dunst/+bug/1330480
[07:59] <molsson> somsip: (or I commented about the patch on an existing bug that is)
[07:59] <molsson> somsip: I need to find some dev/packager that can help merge the patch
[07:59] <somsip> molsson: they should be listed as package maintainer on the launchpad page
[08:01] <nonoa> hy guys. i'm using backbox 13 .. how to fix the JACK sound recordings in recordmydesktop.?
[08:03] <Beldar> nonoa, This is ubuntu support you want their support.
[08:04] <case_> Hi guys, are apt-get update and apt-get upgrade deprecated ? Every time i boot, first thing i do is run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. Sometimes I get to update, other times I just get an error (running -f does not solve this). Just after I close the terminal windows software updater pops up asking me to update my system. Why does this happen ?
[08:05] <SierraAR> case_: Whats the exact error message it shows?
[08:05] <Beldar> case_, What ubuntu release?
[08:11] <annihilator009> Any good download manager just like IDM ?
[08:12] <annihilator009> (obviously for Ubuntu 14.04)
[08:12] <stangeland> hi, when i log on to my ystem i always get something like 10 error boxes popping up, but they dont really say why they come. Is there any way i can see why they come?
[08:14] <Beldar> annihilator009, apt-fast or axel are two
[08:14] <annihilator009> are they good enough like IDM?
[08:14] <annihilator009> Beldar^^
[08:14] <Beldar> annihilator009, never used idm
[08:15] <annihilator009> ok Beldar
[08:15] <annihilator009> thanx
[08:16] <kostkon> annihilator009, http://flareget.com
[08:16] <varunendra> annihilator009, I personally use 'downthemall' plugin in firefox, and like it. Have used flashget and DAP in windows long ago, downthemall looks simpler and better.
[08:17] <annihilator009> thanx guys
[08:21] <josh> how do you exit
[08:22] <histo> Guest53856: how do you exit what?
[08:22] <SierraAR> 14.04 is an LTS release right?
[08:22] <histo> SierraAR: yes
[08:22] <SierraAR> K, had a momentary panic thinking I grabbed the wrong iso.. XD
[08:22] <cfhowlett> SierraAR indeed
[08:24] <Annihilator_> why doesn't Mp3 and Mp4 support?
[08:24] <Beldar> !restricted | Annihilator_
[08:24] <cfhowlett> Annihilator_ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !restricted
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !extras
[08:26] <cfhowlett> Annihilator_ as to "why" ... legal issues
[08:27] <Annihilator_> what do I do now cfhowlett?
[08:28] <k1l> Annihilator_: in some countries you are not allowed to ship the mp3/mp4 included due to legal issues. so on ubunut you can check on the installer to let the codecs be downloaded and isntalled afterwards. or (if you did not check that option) you can install the codecs like the bot told you
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Annihilator_ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:28] <cfhowlett> in a terminal
[08:28] <Annihilator_> ok thanx
[08:28] <Annihilator_> cfhowlett: ^^
[08:29] <cfhowlett> Annihilator_ happy2help
[08:30] <Annihilator_> cfhowlett :)
[08:40] <bukai> Hi,  i have to install oracle java 7 in ubuntu 12.04 i cant go it using apt-get as open java will be installed then how do i do it?
[08:40] <DJones> !java | bukai Hopefully the bot's link will you installing that,
[08:43] <tapia> Hi! I'm trying to convert some ASF files to MP3
[08:43] <tapia> How can I do that?
[08:43] <bcvery> tapia, avconv
[08:43] <cfhowlett> tapia avconv or ffmpeg are the usual tools - although I don't know what .asf is
[08:43] <Kartagis> !avcon | tapia
[08:44] <Annihilator_> !bot
[08:44] <Kartagis> !avconv | tapia
[08:44] <bcvery> !info libav-tools | tapia
[08:49] <Mithrildar> I want to change the ownership of a partition from my user to root, how would I do this?
[08:52] <Mithrildar> sudo chown -R root:root /PATH/TO/PARTITION/?
[08:54] <MasterOfDisaster> Mithrildar: correct
[08:54] <odisa> Hi, where can I go to report a small quirk in Ubuntu?
[08:54] <k1l> odisa: launchpad.net
[08:55] <MasterOfDisaster> !bug | odisa
[08:55] <histo> Mithrildar: You mena change the ownership of a mount ?
[08:55] <odisa> thanks :)
[08:55] <histo> s/mena/mean/
[08:55] <Mithrildar> histo: Maybe, I just dont want to be able to write to that disk from Ubuntu without root access
[08:56] <histo> Mithrildar: well you can just change the permisions or mount it read only
[08:56] <histo> Mithrildar: remember how we did that the other day.  sudo mount -o remount,ro /dev/sdX1
[08:57] <histo> Mithrildar: or you could sudo mount -o uid=0,gid=0,other options /dev/sdX# /path/to/mount
[08:57] <Mithrildar> Yeah, I don't want to do that though, I still want access to a few folders in the partition
[08:57] <histo> Mithrildar: do you have multiple users on this system?
[08:58] <Mithrildar> I'm the only person who uses this computer, so there's only my own user, root and whatever else programs use
[08:59] <Mithrildar> It's my Windows partition so I want to lock everything outside My Documents
[08:59] <Mithrildar> Having write permission to my Windows install isn't good ;)
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar the windows partition will not open without root authorization
[09:00] <histo> Mithrildar: ^^^
[09:00] <Mithrildar> Well I'm able to though a file in it
[09:00] <histo> Mithrildar: and you could bind mount My Documents somewhere
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar and you DO use a non-root ubuntu account for your daily use, right?
[09:00] <Mithrildar> Probably because I've been so smart to install Windows after Ubuntu
[09:00] <Mithrildar> Yeah ofcourse
[09:02] <Mithrildar> So currently my user is the owner of /Windows/ in the Windows partition
[09:02] <Mithrildar> which doesnt sound great
[09:02] <Mithrildar> woops
[09:03] <histo> Mithrildar: What do you mean your user owns /windows?
[09:03] <histo> Mithrildar: how are you mounting your widows partition?
[09:03] <Mithrildar> I have no idea :P
[09:04] <histo> Mithrildar: is it in your /etc/fstab or are you just clicking on the drive to mount it?
[09:05] <Mithrildar> I'm not manually mounting it
[09:06] <histo> Mithrildar: pastebin your /etc/fstab and the output of 'mount'
[09:07] <Mithrildar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7759307/
[09:08] <Mithrildar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7759312/
[09:08] <Mithrildar> So /dev/sda4 and /dev/sda5 are the partitions I shouldn't have access to
[09:11] <histo> Mithrildar: you are mounting them from the GUI interface manually when you click on them in Nautilus or on the launcher panel
[09:12] <histo> !mount | Mithrildar Check out this has information for mounting your windows partitions via fstab, you can then bind mount my documents to your user directory or change whatever.
[09:12] <annihilator009> need help
[09:12] <Mithrildar> They were automatically mounted, I don't remember mounting them myself
[09:13] <annihilator009> apt-get restricted extras installation stuck at 'flashplugin-installer.What do I do now?
[09:13] <annihilator009> apt-get restricted extras installation stuck at 'flashplugin-installer'.What do I do now?
[09:13] <function9> on boot up I get an error message udev is trying to load up alsa, but I don't have alsa installed. I got pulse. how can I fix this error?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> annihilator009 authorize the install - there's a dialog
[09:14] <annihilator009> how?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> annihilator009 look for it?
[09:15] <histo> Mithrildar: they were not, they got mounted when you clicked on them
[09:15] <Mithrildar> Okay
[09:15] <histo> function9: alsa is part of the kernel now.
[09:15] <annihilator009> cfhowlett: I clicked on the link and now its downloading using firefox.Is it ok?
[09:16] <cfhowlett> annihilator009 shouldn't be a problem but keep a watch
[09:16] <annihilator009> thanx
[09:16] <annihilator009> but why did it happen cfhowlett ?
[09:17] <cfhowlett> annihilator009 I'm guessing that you missed or closed the authorization dialog ... *guessing*
[09:17] <annihilator009> do you mean liscence?
[09:17] <annihilator009> i did(accepted) it
[09:18] <Mithrildar> So histo: I mount my Windows partition to read-only and then I mount my Documents folder on the Windows partition to read and write, is that correct?
[09:19] <annihilator009> cfhowlett: Help
[09:20] <hms1220> LIST
[09:21] <somsip> !list | hms1220
[09:24] <hms1220> LEAVE
[09:24] <somsip> hms1220: try "/quit"
[09:24] <Mithrildar> So histo, I'm able to mount my Windows partition without root, that doesn't sound right
[09:25] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar you're in the root account now?  logout/login to your non-privileged account and try
[09:26] <Mithrildar> I'm not in the root account
[09:26] <Mithrildar> Atleast I'm pretty sure I
[09:26] <Mithrildar> m not in it, I didnt do anything to log in as root
[09:27] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar just for fun ... logout/login to your low level account
[09:27] <Mithrildar> Ok logged out and back in
[09:29] <Mithrildar> And I'm still able to mount/unmount it
[09:29] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar wow.  no idea why installing windows AFTER ubuntu would flip the mount permissmissions like that.
[09:30] <Mithrildar> So what would be better, trying to fix this or just removing ubuntu and then installing it again?
[09:31] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar remove?  why?  Reinstall ubuntu in dual boot mode and all should be well.  *should*
[09:31] <Mithrildar> Okay I'm going to try that
[09:32] <Mithrildar> Anything that I need to do before letting my PC boot the Ubuntu CD?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar do NOT format the windows partition
[09:33] <Mithrildar> Wasnt planning on doing that
[09:33] <petulko391> hi, i have problem s nagiosgraph.. help my anyone
[09:33] <Mithrildar> Installing Windows 8.1 was already painful enough
[09:33] <Mithrildar> Dont plan on doing that again
[09:33] <george3> what is whatsapp?
[09:34] <bcvery> george3, whatsapp is a mobile messaging app, but is off topic in this channel
[09:35] <Mithrildar> Okay then I'm going to do that
[09:35] <Mithrildar> thanks and bbl
[09:44] <george3> how to install apps to sd card in android?
[09:46] <bcvery> george3, ask in #android
[10:08] <Mithrildar> Reinstalling Ubuntu but it wont show a progressbar great
[10:08] <loa> if i do lvm mirror, i can safe remove one hard drive?
[10:09] <loa> system will work?
[10:09] <Garret1> any easy ways or helpful tools to use for a upgrade from x32 to x64 ?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> Garret1 upgrade?  no upgrade.  clean install 64 bit
[10:10] <DJones> Garret1: Basically, backup and reinstall
[10:11] <Garret1> yes , clean install
[10:11] <Garret1> ill backup /home/ /nginx/sites-available/
[10:11] <Garret1> and some conf files and thats about it..
[10:13] <Garret1> i have webmin
[10:13] <cfhowlett> !webmin
[10:13] <Garret1> iv been pretty happy with it
[10:14] <Mithrildar> Blegh Ubuntu completely wiped Windows when reinstalling
[10:15] <Mithrildar> I think
[10:15] <Mithrildar> Yup
[10:16] <anonymous_> welcom
[10:16] <psy__> hi
[10:17] <psy__> can someone answer this
[10:17] <psy__> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/141123/running-custom-commands-in-a-terminal-application
[10:17] <psy__> please
[10:19] <CptClever> psy__: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39145/execute-command-in-remote-active-terminal
[10:20] <CptClever> "There is a command line utility called ttyecho that can send a command to another terminal (tty/pts) and have the command executed."
[10:20] <CptClever> "sudo ttyecho -n /dev/pts/5 ls
[10:20] <psy__> yes it is but it doesnot works in this specific scenario
[10:21] <CptClever> ah ok :)
[10:21] <psy__> clear
[10:21] <psy__> any other alternative solutions ?
[10:25] <indian347> compiz is slowing my system down like crazy can i remove it and how?
[10:25] <gry> Hello. How do I add gnome to login screen menu after installing gnome-shell?
[10:26] <gry> I'm using lightdm.
[10:27] <psy__> for removing compiz use synapic
[10:27] <psy__> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/141123/running-custom-commands-in-a-terminal-application
[10:27] <indian347> psy what pats of it do i remove all of it?
[10:28] <CJKay> Hi guys, I'm at my wit's end here. I just did a dist-upgrade and suddenly I can't use my Ethernet at all. It's located fine with lspci but modprobing the driver is just not working. I217-LM card on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:28] <CJKay> I can't paste as I'm having to use my phone to get here lol
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> CJKay: if you run:   dmesg | egrep -i 'network|ether'    do you see any useful output?
[10:30] <CJKay> "Cannot find device eth0" on ifup and lshw -C network shows it is unclaimed
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> CJKay: what is the output of:  uname -a
[10:31] <CJKay> Nothing useful on dmesg. Just the e1000e startup message
[10:31] <CJKay> Linux 3.2.0-65-generic x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:31] <indian347> If i remove compiz it also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and unity
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> CJKay: try installing the 3.8 kernel. or even the 3.11 it should be in the backports repo
[10:32] <indian347> thats sounds bad!
[10:32] <CJKay> ActionParsnip: how do I go about that without internet?
[10:33] <CJKay> I could probably run home and grab a USB cable to tether in my lunch break but I want to make sure I've tried everything possible before then
[10:36] <CJKay> Oh hey I have Ethernet if I boot with my previous kernel
[10:37] <CJKay> What the hell happened between -64 and -65?
[10:38] <indian347> compiz is slowing my system down like crazy can i remove it and how?
[10:39] <k1l> indian347: no. unity is based on compiz. you could install another more lightweight desktop like lubuntu-dekstop
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> CJKay: I guess, or grab the debs manually
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> CJKay: if you boot an older kernel is it ok
[10:40] <CJKay> Yeah, apparently
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> CJKay: you can install the later kernel there then....
[10:41] <CJKay> Yeah I'll go ahead and do that, thanks ActionParsnip
[10:43] <CJKay> Guess I should make sure I build the e1000e driver myself next time too
[10:49] <astone> dd
[10:49] <astone> hi
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> indian347: are you using Precise (Ubuntu 12.04) ?
[10:50] <indian347> k1l I just know compiz is slowing me down if i kill it in top everything speeds up but the computtur is unusable can i shut off the effects?
[10:50] <cfhowlett> indian347 sudo apt-get install lxde            then logout.  choose lxde/lubuntu session and login.  should run noticeably faster
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> indian347: if you run:  cat /etc/issue     what is the output please?
[10:51] <XLV> anyone ever had to copy edid from monitor to use with a kvm that doesnt retain monitor's edid info? any tips?
[10:53] <histo> XLV: edid?
[10:53] <XLV> histo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data
[10:55] <histo> XLV: why don't you just set the modeline for it
[10:55] <histo> !modeline | XLV
[10:55] <Leeuwenhok> Hello
[10:55] <histo> hola
[10:55] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok ask your questions!
[10:55] <cfhowlett> :P
[10:55] <Leeuwenhok> :p
[10:55] <XLV> histo, doesnt work.. the display defaults to a vesa 1024x768@60Hz max and all modelines exceeding that bandwidth are discarded
[10:56] <histo> XLV: you can add your own modeline
[10:56] <eeee> gtf <modeline>
[10:56] <Leeuwenhok> I've fixed the GRUB using 14.04 LiveUSB and now I've booted into 13.10.
[10:56] <histo> eeee: huh?
[10:56] <XLV> histo, i am using a kvm with vga between two ubuntu servers and if one of them boots with the kvm set to the other, it defaults to 1024x768
[10:56] <eeee> are we talking about adding custom resolutions?
[10:57] <Leeuwenhok> I was totally impressed with the boot speed of 14.04. Not even Windows 8 can beat that.
[10:57] <histo> XLV: right, so add a modeline and use that as the default. Then it doesn't matter what the kvm does
[10:57] <XLV> histo, again, if the monitor is detected ( or misdetected ) as max 1024*768@60, any modeline you set or not set, that exceed the bandwidth of 1024x768@60Hz isnt used by xorg
[10:57] <Leeuwenhok> Back to the question: How do I update to 14.04 from within 13.10?
[10:57] <XLV> doesnt matter if i set it or i try to use a default one
[10:58] <XLV> it doesnt use them, considers the monitor incapable of using it
[10:58] <histo> XLV: You can force it to use that modeline, have you tried that?
[10:58] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok boot the 14.04 USB and choose "install"
[10:58] <Leeuwenhok> Will that keep my files and settings?
[10:58] <popey> Leeuwenhok: can you not just use update manager?
[10:58] <popey> Leeuwenhok: depends, it might not, depending how you use it
[10:59] <XLV> histo, i have tried it... it doesnt work.. it defaults to a display max 1024x768 and discards any modeline that needs a bandwidth higher than 1024*768@60hz
[10:59] <histo> Leeuwenhok: chroot to the 14.04 install and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:59] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok if you have a dedicated home - yes
[10:59] <histo> XLV: fine don't listen
[10:59] <Leeuwenhok> Wait, guys.
[10:59] <Leeuwenhok> Lemme explain.
[10:59] <popey> cfhowlett: you dont need dedicated home
[10:59] <popey> cfhowlett: re-install over the top has supported upgrading without having separate home for years now
[11:00] <Leeuwenhok> I have a 14.04 LiveUSB and 13.10 is currently installed on my system. I want to update to 14.04 but still keep all my files and installed apps.
[11:00] <geirha> Leeuwenhok: Open the update manager..?
[11:00] <XLV> histo, i would listen if you had any substancial to say.. you obviously dont know how the xserver autodetect monitors' capabilities and discards any modeline that exceeds detected monitors' capabilities
[11:00] <popey> Leeuwenhok: boot into 13.10 and upgrade? what's wrong with doing that?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: that is default but your backups will retain data integrity
[11:00] <histo> !upgrade | Leeuwenhok
[11:00] <Leeuwenhok> @popey I'll try that.
[11:00] <histo> XLV: I do understand completely
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: you can use the USB to upgrade, the current install will be detected
[11:01] <Leeuwenhok> Do I open "software updater" or "software and updates"?
[11:01] <loa> hello.
[11:01] <loa> what i can use for custom notification?
[11:02] <loa> notify-send is not for my situation, and it behaviour changed.
[11:02] <histo> XLV: I'm not speaking of the autodetect function whatsoever or it discarding anything. I'm merely trying to point you in the direction of manually setting it.
[11:02] <loa> i use ubuntu 14.04
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> loa: why is notify-send not for your situation?
[11:02] <XLV> histo, manually setting a modeline that gets discarded? as it needs higher bandwidth than 1024x768@60?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> loa: its what everytinng else uses.....
[11:03] <Leeuwenhok> ...
[11:03] <histo> XLV: yeap
[11:03] <loa> ActionParsnip, i need notification that will not dissapear for 24h, but i can close it with click
[11:03] <eeeeee> XLV: are you using xrandr to set the resolution?
[11:03] <loa> ActionParsnip, now it ignores -t 0
[11:03] <loa> and i can't close it immediatly... =/
[11:03] <Leeuwenhok> If I choose install at the LiveUSB, will I be able to upgrade to 14.04 without losing my files?
[11:04] <histo> eeeeee: no he can't because he hasn't defined the proper modeline
[11:04] <XLV> histo, to get a grasp of the steps needed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1946208 .. i am trying to find a way to copy the edid of the display while its connected directly to the system, so i can use that edid to override the misdetected one
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> loa: zenity then...maybe
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> loa: http://www.jucktion.com/tech/technology/linux/creating-custom-ubuntu-notifications-reminders/
[11:04] <histo> XLV: I know the steps needed
[11:04] <XLV> eeee, i have seen some links about xrandr but nothing recent or successful
[11:05]  * histo wonders where those links were seen recently
[11:05] <Leeuwenhok> First, there were so many replies at once and now I'm suddenly invisible?
[11:05] <XLV> histo, read them again.. a refresh is needed imo
[11:05] <histo> Leeuwenhok: yes you can keep all your files when you upgrade. It will not delete them. However, in case something goes horribly wrong it's always a good idea to have a backup
[11:06] <histo> !modeline | XLV
[11:06] <histo> !xrandr > xlv
[11:06] <Leeuwenhok> #histo I'll risk it.
[11:06] <Leeuwenhok> How do I update to 14.04 from the software updater?
[11:06] <histo> XLV: I don't need to read them again I'm well aware of what they do.
[11:07] <loa> ActionParsnip, with zenity is another problem... I need on top notification... :D
[11:07] <histo> !upgrade > Leeuwenhok read the private message from ubottu
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: if you can wait a week or so, 14.04 will go to the first point release (14.04.1) and it will be offered to you
[11:07] <XLV> histo, you are so good at bot abuse... those dont help me.. any modeline set thats higher than 1024x768@60 gets DISCARDED because the xserver reads the edid of the monitor, thinks its only capable of 1024x768 and doesnt even use any modeline that needs more bandwidth than 1024x768@60
[11:07] <loa> ActionParsnip, with zenity it will be easily to ignore notification
[11:08] <loa> maybe i can use something like api for notifications...
[11:08] <histo> XLV: I know. If you would read the links you would see that you can force it not to.
[11:08] <Multiply> Anyone know why I keep getting "undefined symbol: cupsCreateJob"? I am using Ubuntu 13.04, and have the latest libcups-dev installed
[11:08] <histo> !eol | Multiply
[11:10] <Beldar> XLV, Could of sworn your the one who needs help try to calm down and stop abusing the help.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Multiply: 13.04 is no longer supported. I suggest you clean install Trusty from CD / USB and wipe off Raring
[11:11] <Multiply> I'll set up a new box and try there, then. :)
[11:13] <jass> Hi all. I am using a virtual box in ubuntu 14.04 and it is 4.3.12. In this I am unable to get the USB support. It shows "No usb device is connected". I also tried sudo adduser jass vboxusers but still it is of no use
[11:14] <subz3r0> jass: install the guest additions
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !vbox|jass
[11:14] <subz3r0> virutlabox.org
[11:14] <subz3r0> download and install them
[11:14] <jass> I also looked upon the forums but it suggest using downgraded version still the thread is not marked solved
[11:14] <llutz> jass: did you install the vbox-extensions and did your user logged out/logged in again, after adding him to vboxusers?
[11:14] <cfhowlett> jass see the #vbox channel
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> jass: did you install the guest additions?
[11:15] <histo> jass: did you add a usb filter?
[11:15] <jass> ummm, I did during the installation of  vbox. But lemme check again
[11:15] <jass> histo: No, I didn't add the filter thugh
[11:15] <histo> jass: well you need to do that to use a usb device
[11:15] <subz3r0> --> install the guest additions! <--
[11:15] <histo> jass: under machine settings > usb > add a filter for the device you want to use on the guest
[11:15] <bahamas> I have an upstart script where I'm trying to run a service as a certain user. I put setuid $USER, but I get an error saying 'setuid not found'. anyone have an idea about what I'm doing wrong?
[11:16] <subz3r0> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.12/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.3.12-93733.vbox-extpack
[11:16] <llutz> histo: you don't. i'm using usb-deviuces a lot with vbox win7/xp but haven't a single usb-filter
[11:16] <jass> I actually don't see the extention tab in the settings
[11:16] <subz3r0> jass: also i recommend not using the version of the ubuntu repos. its old.
[11:16] <Mithrildar> Trying to install Ubuntu next to Windows but it won't detect Windows 8. Windows 8 was installed in EFI and this disk is running in EFI (no fallback detected though)
[11:16] <llutz> jass: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.12/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.3.12-93733.vbox-extpack
[11:17] <histo> llutz: how does vbox know which device you want to use in the guest then?
[11:17] <subz3r0> jass: follow these instructions: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> jass: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2008/virtualbox-install-guest-additions.jpg
[11:17] <subz3r0> histo: you can connect it
[11:17] <subz3r0> for each vm
[11:17] <llutz> histo: i add them at runtime, if i need them (small icon at the guest-window bottom)
[11:17] <histo> llutz: yeah that's creating a filter
[11:18] <jass> okay, I have downloaded the extpack
[11:18] <llutz> histo: filter is permanent, being set with VBoxManage, not this
[11:18] <histo> jass: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#idp50164016
[11:19] <jass> installing it now
[11:19] <subz3r0> jass: CTRL+G additional packets(or something like that... using a different lang...)
[11:19] <jass> ah, installed
[11:19] <jass> going to re-login
[11:19] <jass> Thanks guys. I would let you know if this doesn't work
[11:19] <jass> brb
[11:22] <gry> hi. i installed a lot of packages. i have a list in apt history log file but they're not space separated. i would like to undo the install (ie uninstall from that list). how do i do that?
[11:22] <histo> gry: pastebin the list please
[11:23] <jass_> working now. Thanks all :)
[11:23] <Mithrildar> So should I try installing Windows without EFI? Ubuntu can't detect Windows 8 during install
[11:23] <Mithrildar> Windows 8 boots just fine though
[11:24] <gry> histo: http://dpaste.com/26F97S5
[11:24] <histo> gry: is that it? just gnome-shell ?
[11:25] <histo> gry: you could grep 'install' logfile | cut -d ' ' -f 4 > newfile
[11:27] <llutz> gry: sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell ; sudo apt-get autoremove               won't remove those?
[11:27]  * histo is assuming there are more than just gnome-shell
[11:28] <gry> histo: the log has a first line telling what i was trying to install. it is gnome-shell + its dependencies i believe.
[11:29] <histo> gry: Is that the only package you installed?
[11:30] <histo> gry: or should say are you only trying to uninstall gnome-shell and it's dependancies?
[11:30] <Oxid> why is not good to use root in irc ?
[11:30] <gry> llutz: i think the command you provided doesn't uninstall the first item in the list, unity-settings-daemon: http://dpaste.com/3XKAZP7
[11:30] <gry> histo: it was the only one i requested
[11:31] <histo> gry: then llutz command should remove gnome-shell and the autoremove should rip the dependancies
[11:31] <histo> gry: which log file are you looking in btw?
[11:32] <gry> var log apt history.log
[11:32] <histo> gry: pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log
[11:35] <gry> histo: http://dpaste.com/1E7V3GA with comments added
[11:35] <gry> or http://dpaste.com/1E7V3GA#wrap even
[11:37] <jass> Mmm, extpack also has shared folder support?
[11:40] <riply> Hi guys, it's been a while since I've used the virtualmin / ubuntu installation script. I am looking at rebuilding my box and want to move away from using apache and give nginx a try. Is it part of the auto installer these days?
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !info nginx
[11:41] <histo> gry: unity-settings-daemon is probably required by something else
[11:42] <llutz> gry: "aptitude why unity-settings-daemon"
[11:42] <histo> gry: looks like you removed gnome-shell and it's dependancies properly to me.
[11:45] <gry> i sadly removed aptitude because it maintains a xapian index which starts out of the blue randomly and it was annoying
[11:45] <riply> cfhowlett, thanks I know what it is :P I am just looking to see if it is setup automatically like apache used to be and also, if I can *just* export the old Virtual Server and import to the new NHINX server?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> riply sorry, but all that is over my rating - but I bet #ubuntu-server would know
[11:48] <riply> cfhowlett, thanks man, I will give them a try :)
[11:50] <Perzeus> hello
[11:52] <gry> Perzeus, hi.
[11:52] <Oxid> can i change the root name ?
[11:52] <janslow> Has anyone ever got a laptop working as a router for clients connected via a layer 2 switch with just 1 ethernet port? Is this doable?
[11:52] <histo> Oxid: the user root's name? or the hostname?
[11:53] <subz3r0> janslow: #networking
[11:53] <Oxid> root name
[11:53] <janslow> cheers
[11:53] <subz3r0> not really ubuntu related
[11:53] <k1l> Oxid: dont run irc as root at all. and for kali support ask the kali guys since its even not based on ubuntu
[11:54] <jass> Meh, got the extension pack. Can see the usb but not the shared folder
[11:54] <histo> k1l: how are we assuming he's running kali?
[11:54] <Oxid> but i ask in general if can be change
[11:54] <histo> k1l: nvm
[11:54] <histo> foudn it
[11:54] <gry> no, root user has to have this username nomatter what i think
[11:54] <jass> even added the folder in path but when I click the "Devices" I don't see any shared folder but see Shared folder settings instead
[11:54] <k1l> histo: he asked for kali support the last days and still runs the root account
[11:54] <histo> Oxid: add a user
[11:55] <histo> Oxid: and /join #kalilinux
[11:55] <histo> k1l: he's also running xchat in kali
[11:56] <forkyou> Just fucking isntall CentOS already you fucking jackass.
[11:56] <Oxid> cos i just want to learn a bit and later on i will reinstall the system but i want to do it write
[11:57] <k1l> Oxid: that is all fine, but as long as you dont run ubuntu ask the specific support of the OS you use or ask in ##linux
[11:57] <Mithrildar> Crap
[11:57] <Mithrildar> Reinsta
[11:57] <Mithrildar> Reinstaled windows in non efi modw
[11:58] <Mithrildar> Now running Ubuntu install disk in non efi
[11:58] <Mithrildar> And Ubuntu can't detect windows 8
[11:58] <Perzeus> ubunt can tdetect windows 7 too !
[11:58] <Mithrildar> Tried everything
[11:58] <histo> Mithrildar: how did you manage to install windows 8 in non efi mode?
[11:59] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Mithrildar
[11:59] <Mithrildar> I selected to boot the disk in non efi mode
[11:59] <Mithrildar> It didn't create an efi partition
[11:59] <Mithrildar> installed windows
[12:00] <Mithrildar> It booted with the windows logo, not the Asus logo
[12:00] <Mithrildar> Then I rebooted and ran the Ubuntu disk same way
[12:00] <histo> Mithrildar: why did you want to do this?
[12:00] <Mithrildar> Because I accidentally wiped windows
[12:01] <Mithrildar> Now I want to dual boot the right way, so I installed Windows first
[12:01] <Mithrildar> But Ubuntu just won't detect it
[12:01] <histo> Mithrildar: During the install it wont' detect it?  Or do you mean grub doesn't show it?
[12:02] <Mithrildar> I'm now on installation type window
[12:02] <Mithrildar> And it says
[12:02] <Mithrildar> This computer currently has detected no operating systems
[12:03] <histo> Mithrildar: can you open a terminal and lsblk
[12:04] <Mithrildar> Sure lemme boot the live CD then
[12:04] <histo> Mithrildar: no you can do it from the installer
[12:04] <histo> Mithrildar: the installer is the live cd
[12:04] <Mithrildar> Yeah I'm doing that
[12:05] <Mithrildar> Clicking the try Ubuntu button
[12:05] <histo> Mithrildar: Why didn't you just reinstall windows after you accidentally wiped it?
[12:05] <Mithrildar> I did
[12:05] <stangeland> how reliable is lscpu? can i trust the sizes of the L1,L2 and L3 caches it reports?
[12:06] <histo> Mithrildar: if you would have just stuck with EFI it doesn't matter if you install windows first or second
[12:06] <Mithrildar> It didn't detect windows with efi
[12:06] <Mithrildar> So thought it would be efi issues
[12:08] <Leeuwenhok> Update using liveUSB without having to download the iso again?
[12:09] <Leeuwenhok> I don't want to wait 3 hours again.
[12:09] <histo> Leeuwenhok: is that a question?
[12:09] <histo> Leeuwenhok: plug it in
[12:09] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok you have the ISO = you don't need to download the ISO
[12:09] <Leeuwenhok> Yeah, too lazy to put it as one
[12:10] <histo> Mithrildar: in a terminal [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"
[12:10] <Leeuwenhok> Inserted the USB.
[12:10] <Leeuwenhok> Now what?
[12:10] <Mithrildar> Okay
[12:11] <Leeuwenhok> Ubuntu prompted me to install the 14.04 upgrade.
[12:12] <histo> Leeuwenhok: ;)
[12:12] <Mithrildar> Legacy boot on HDD
[12:12] <Leeuwenhok> But I don't want to download it again. I have the .iso as well as the LiveUSB.
[12:12] <Mithrildar> Is what it prints
[12:13] <histo> Mithrildar: k, lsblk and see if there is a efi partition created by windows
[12:13] <Leeuwenhok> The "Distribution Upgrade" app is open.
[12:13] <Mithrildar> There isnt
[12:13] <Leeuwenhok> It's asking me if I want to start the upgrade.
[12:13] <histo> Leeuwenhok: didn't it prompt you when you inserted the usb that it has packages on it blah blah?
[12:13] <Leeuwenhok> Nope.
[12:13] <Mithrildar> Just sda1 and sda2 first is 350M second is 698G
[12:15] <Leeuwenhok> I bet "Getting the packages" means it's downloading them agin.
[12:15] <Mithrildar> Also sr0 and loop0
[12:15] <Leeuwenhok> Can't it use the liveUSB to get those packages?
[12:15] <histo> Leeuwenhok: is there a cdromupgrade file on your usb?
[12:16] <histo> Mithrildar: what's in the 350M partition?
[12:16] <Leeuwenhok> Don't think there is.
[12:16] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok easy test: disable your network
[12:16] <Leeuwenhok> Then what?
[12:17] <Mithrildar> Windows stuff, Boot, Recovery, System Volume Info, etc
[12:17] <histo> Think the upgarde file is only on the alternate iso that used to exist.
[12:17] <Leeuwenhok> Yeah, perhaps.
[12:17] <histo> Mithrildar: efi stuff?
[12:17] <Leeuwenhok> I'll just wait for it to download then.
[12:17] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok if it's downloading w/o internet access = <fill in this blank>
[12:18] <Mithrildar> No efi stuff
[12:18] <Leeuwenhok> I'll be back in 30 minutes. Need to hit the grocery store.
[12:19] <cfhowlett> histo if so, no ISO upgrade option anymore ... sad.
[12:19] <histo> Leeuwenhok: ahh if you booted to the usb you could have selected upgrade instead of install
[12:19] <histo> cfhowlett: ^^
[12:19] <histo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/459914/upgrading-from-edubuntu-13-10-to-14-04-using-iso
[12:21] <Mithrildar> So I didn't install Windows in EFI nor am I running my Ubuntu disk in EFI, any ideas?
[12:22] <gry> "what is efi?"
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !efi
[12:22] <Mithrildar> I could try installing Ubuntu from within the try environment
[12:23] <histo> Mithrildar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218255 look at post #5
[12:23] <histo> Mithrildar: see if that matches your situation
[12:23] <histo> Mithrildar: basically use fixparts to remove the gpt data from the disk and run the installer again.
[12:24] <Beldar> that is why I suggested the bootinfo app
[12:24] <acosonic> hi guys, I’m sudoing svn command as another user, svn is installed and that user can see it when I login as that user, but when I sudo it it says svn command not found
[12:24] <histo> Mithrildar: or http://askubuntu.com/questions/211477/how-to-remove-gpt-from-hdd
[12:27] <Mithrildar> OK did that last link
[12:28] <histo> Mithrildar: K now try the installer should find windows
[12:29] <Mithrildar> It didnt
[12:29] <Mithrildar> Should I restart?
[12:29] <histo> Mithrildar: yeah
[12:29] <anonymous_> hi everybody
[12:29] <Mithrildar> Hi
[12:30] <histo> uhoh where'd ubottu go?
[12:30] <tommy__> hi there!
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !bot
[12:30] <b100s> hi2all
[12:30] <b100s> why ubuntu use make 3.81 ?
[12:31] <histo> cfhowlett: netsplit
[12:31] <kostkon> !netsplit
[12:31] <histo> b100s: why not?
[12:31] <histo> kostkon: bot was a victim
[12:31] <kostkon> :(
[12:31] <b100s> why not 4 or 3.82?
[12:32] <b100s> histo,
[12:32] <Mithrildar> LTS, so they will only use stable software for now
[12:32] <Mithrildar> I'm sure those versions were released after 14.04
[12:32] <b100s> do u think make 3.82 is not a stable ? Mithrildar
[12:33] <b100s> oh
[12:33] <b100s> can be
[12:33] <b100s> can be just realased aftre
[12:33] <Mithrildar> Same issue with gcc
[12:33] <histo> b100s: no 3.81 is from 2006
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !enter|b100s
[12:34] <Beldar> enter was removed from bot
[12:34] <histo> bot is dead
[12:34] <histo> !botsnack
[12:34] <Pici> freenode is glitching at the moment
[12:35] <gry> good, let's finally be a bit more human
[12:35] <gry> for a couple minutes
[12:35] <Beldar> enter	<deleted><reply> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:35] <histo> Beldar: lol copying factoids?
[12:35]  * gry gives beldar a bot snack
[12:35] <acosonic> I fixed my problem though…
[12:36] <acosonic> bye bye
[12:36] <Beldar> histo, jut showing the bot had a delete it is on this page. http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=enter
[12:36] <gry> acosonic, ok, see you later
[12:36] <heap> when i run seahorse and add GnugPG keys.. i go thru whole process but there is no key in the seahorse
[12:36] <heap> at the end.
[12:37] <Mithrildar> Bah
[12:37] <Mithrildar> Ubuntu hates me
[12:37] <Mithrildar> Still didn't detect windows
[12:37] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Mithrildar
[12:38] <Mithrildar> OK gonna do that Beldar
[12:38] <Beldar> Mithrildar, run this and pastebin the script generated. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[12:38] <heap> oh my god. what a app the  seahorse is. ;/
[12:39] <histo> Mithrildar: pastebin the output of parted -l /dev/sda also
[12:39] <Beldar> I wonder if the HD has been made dynamic, or just gpt remnants still there.
[12:40] <heap> anyone is using seahorse?
[12:40] <Mithrildar> OK let me go into try Ubuntu again
[12:40] <Leeuwenhok> I'm back
[12:41] <Mithrildar> Wb
[12:41] <trijntje> heap: go to view -> show all
[12:41] <Pici> @ping
[12:41] <unopaste> pong
[12:41] <histo> !botsnack
[12:42] <Mithrildar> Lol
[12:42] <schoel> piog
[12:42] <Pici> :)
[12:43] <Beldar> gry, Can you stick with actual support not the chat type comments?
[12:43] <womberman> Hi all. I have a GUID formated extenal 36 G flash drive. But I don't see it's listing as /dev/sdf or something. can anyone please tell me how can I mount such a disk?
[12:44] <Beldar> womberman, partition type?
[12:44] <womberman> Beldar: BPT
[12:44] <womberman> GUID sorry
[12:45] <heap> trijntje:  i did. i rather use gpa.
[12:45] <womberman> hfs
[12:45] <Beldar> womberman, THis an apple computer?
[12:45] <heap> trijntje: the key showed up after i re-run seahorse.. and its broken... i think.
[12:45] <womberman> Beldar: yeah
[12:46] <Beldar> womberman, No answer here, never messed with that.
[12:46] <womberman> Hopefully somebody might have
[12:46] <gry> Beldar, yes of course, thanks :)
[12:47] <ragingbull> thanks!
[12:48] <histo> womberman: lsblk  to get the dev
[12:48] <histo> womberman: or look at dmesg when you plug it in
[12:49] <Mithrildar> So I cd'd to the bootinfoscript
[12:49] <Mithrildar> But can't find it
[12:49] <Pici> 36
[12:50] <heap> i should cry how stupid both apps are. ;/ gpa doesnt allow me to set the keys option like key size etc.
[12:50] <Mithrildar> Lemme apt get it instead
[12:50] <histo> Mithrildar: how about parted -l /dev/sda  in the mean time?
[12:50] <mishravikas> hey can anyone please help me installing bluetooth drivers on ubuntu 14.04?
[12:50] <Mithrildar> Ok
[12:51] <histo> heap: /j #eclipse
[12:51] <histo> !bluetooth | mishravikas
[12:51] <heap> histo: why eclipse?
[12:51] <histo> heap: Weren't you asking about eclipse?
[12:52] <heap> o about seahorse or gpa , both dont  work properly
[12:52] <Mithrildar_> Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sr0 has been opened read-only. Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[12:52] <Beldar> Mithrildar_, Try histo's command
[12:52] <histo> heap: nvm me I'm confused
[12:52] <histo> Mithrildar_: sudo parted -l /dev/sda
[12:53] <Mithrildar_> Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label                                    Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sr0 has been opened read-only. Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[12:53] <mishravikas> histo: I am having problems with bluetooth Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth
[12:53] <Mithrildar_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7760028/ this is bootinfoscript btw
[12:53] <Mithrildar_> Hmmm
[12:53] <Mithrildar_> invalid MBR signature found
[12:54] <Mithrildar_> => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda.
[12:54] <Beldar> Mithrildar_, THat the whole script?
[12:54] <Mithrildar_> Yeah
[12:55] <Mithrildar_> Sadly
[12:55] <Beldar> very strange
[12:57] <Beldar> Mithrildar_, I gotta crash, hope you get this resolved. ;)
[12:57] <Mithrildar_> I hope so too
[12:57] <Mithrildar_> thanks
[12:58] <AlexPortable> would ubuntu 14.04 be a good replacement for 10.04 /
[12:59] <Mithrildar_> So Histo, do you have any ideas?
[12:59] <histo> Mithrildar_: what does lsblk show?
[12:59] <vtavg2012> what is  name  Chinese ubuntu chanel
[12:59] <k1l> AlexPortable: why not?
[12:59] <tiley12> I am not really used to install applications by the ubuntu software center
[12:59] <k1l> !cn | vtavg2012
[12:59] <AlexPortable> because unity
[12:59] <AlexPortable> and that i have to configure everything
[12:59] <k1l> AlexPortable: works fine here. but you can use one of the many others desktops if you want
[13:00] <tiley12> I am not really used to install applications by the ubuntu software center: but when I install an application from there, where is its path ? where do I find the binaries etc. ? why is not a launcher created automatically ?
[13:00] <histo> Mithrildar_: nvm I see /dev/sda   so what does parted -l /dev/sda  do?
[13:00] <Mithrildar_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7760044/
[13:00] <AlexPortable> im thinking about debian or ubuntu
[13:00] <philinux> AlexPortable;~ depends on machine specs
[13:00] <AlexPortable> i need something that looks the same as 10.04
[13:00] <k1l> AlexPortable: since you ask here: ubuntu
[13:00] <k1l> !lubuntu | AlexPortable
[13:00] <AlexPortable> well lxde isn't anything near 10.04 gnome
[13:00] <AlexPortable> philinux: dual core laptop with 2 gb ram
[13:00] <Mithrildar_> So this is parted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7760049/
[13:01] <philinux> AlexPortable;~ install 14.04 then install the gnome flashback session
[13:01] <histo> wth
[13:01] <AlexPortable> won't it be slow?
[13:01] <histo> Mithrildar_: does windows boot on this thing?
[13:01] <Mithrildar_> It did before I did that gdisk thing
[13:01] <Mithrildar_> Do I need to test it again?
[13:02] <philinux> AlexPortable;~ https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/GnomeFlashback?action=show&redirect=GnomeFlashback
[13:02] <philinux> AlexPortable;~ laptop spec fine
[13:03] <histo> Mithrildar_: yes
[13:03] <Mithrildar_> Okay
[13:03] <AlexPortable> will alt f2 work/
[13:03] <AlexPortable> ?
[13:03] <histo> Mithrildar: how far along where you customizing windows etc...?
[13:03] <philinux> AlexPortable;~ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-classic-gnome-flashback-session
[13:04] <Mithrildar> 1 second just turned fast boot off
[13:04] <k1l> AlexPortable: if that is your concern that works on unity
[13:04] <tiley12> ubuntu software center: why are there no launchers created ? where can I find startup binaries to create a launche manually (since this is not done by software center) ?
[13:04] <histo> Mithrildar: uggh try with fastboot off.
[13:04] <AlexPortable> k1l: i dont want unity
[13:04] <k1l> AlexPortable: what about you even try unity in the first place and make your own mind before digging for alternatives
[13:04] <AlexPortable> its unproductive and gets 100% cpu load
[13:04] <Mithrildar> I turned it off in windows
[13:05] <Mithrildar> Won't even boot windows now
[13:05] <Mithrildar> Boot
[13:05] <Mithrildar> Loader is gone
[13:05] <philinux> AlexPortable;~ with flashback installed you just choose your session at login, simples
[13:05] <histo> Mithrildar: put the bootloader back with the windows install disk
[13:05] <Mithrildar> Ok
[13:05] <yash> hey guys, i tried installing audacious but it shows¨Package dependencies cannot be resolved¨
[13:05] <histo> Mithrildar: leave fastboot off and try installing ubuntu after fixing windows.
[13:05] <k1l> yash: you got PPAs enabled?
[13:06] <histo> !ppapurge | yash
[13:06] <yash> what do i type in sub directory??
[13:08] <yash> how do i enable PPAs ?
[13:09] <histo> yash: Did you enable a software source from somewhere?
[13:09] <k1l> yash: its about to get to know if you already have PPAs enabled that make you that trouble now
[13:10] <yash> how do i solve it guys?
[13:11] <histo> yash: grep -r /etc/apt/ -e ppa
[13:11] <Mithrildar> OK windows boots again
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> yash: sudo add-apt-repository ppa-address-here
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> yash: that command will add the PPA you give the address for
[13:11] <histo> ActionParsnip: he doesn't want to add one. We're trying to determine if he has one enabled
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> histo: gotcha
[13:12] <histo> yash: actually grep -i -r /etc/apt/ -e ppa
[13:12] <yash> how do i know the address (sorry for being dumb, im new here)
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> yash: can you please run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      and use http://pastie.org   to hold the output
[13:12] <histo> yash: open a terminal and type in or copy the following command:  grep -i -r /etc/apt/ -e ppa 2>/dev/null
[13:12] <yash> 1 sec
[13:13] <Mathisen> heh why not just copy etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Mathisen: PPAs get added to a separate file in /etc/apt/souces.list.d
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> sorry /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[13:14] <yash> histo: it says permission denied
[13:14] <Mithrildar> OK windows still boots, what's next
[13:14] <histo> yash: any other output?
[13:14] <k1l> "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"  then pastebin that output
[13:14] <skroon> with mkfifo you can make pipes, but is it alos possible to create a "socket" file ?
[13:15] <histo> Mithrildar: no try installing ubuntu see if it detects windows
[13:15] <histo> Mithrildar: s/no/now/
[13:15] <yash> a lot happened and finally it says permission denied
[13:15] <Mithrildar> Okay
[13:16] <Mithrildar> Do it from try ubuntu? In case it does not work or just normal?
[13:16] <histo> Mithrildar: doesn't matter you can get to a terminal either way
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> yash: can you please run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      and use http://pastie.org   to hold the output
[13:16] <Mithrildar> Oh
[13:16] <histo> Mithrildar: if you do the normal install you can hit ctrl+alt+F1-F6 still to get to tty
[13:17] <yash> no other output
[13:17] <histo> ActionParsnip: good luck
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> histo: it should show the issue
[13:17] <Mithrildar> Can't really upload any output to pastebin tough
[13:18] <histo> ActionParsnip: I know, I was saying good luck helping him.
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> yash: paste all the txt to the web page and hit the 'paste' button. When the page changes. Copy the URL in the address bar and paste it into the channel and we will be able to see the text
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> histo: ty :D
[13:18] <histo> Mithrildar: huh?
[13:19] <histo> Mithrildar: you could apt-get install pastebinit
[13:19] <Mithrildar> Oh cool
[13:19] <histo> Mithrildar: I think you'll be fine now though
[13:19] <Mithrildar> Let's see if it does
[13:20] <Mithrildar> Currently need to wait half a min on the preparing yo install Ubuntu window
[13:20] <yash> Binary file /etc/apt/trusted.gpg matches
[13:20] <yash> /etc/apt/sources.list.save:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/noobslab/apps/ubuntu trusty main
[13:20] <yash> /etc/apt/sources.list.save:# deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/noobslab/apps/ubuntu trusty main
[13:20] <yash> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ronmi-wallbox-raring.list:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ronmi/wallbox/ubuntu raring main
[13:20] <yash> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ronmi-wallbox-raring.list:# deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ronmi/wallbox/ubuntu raring main
[13:20] <yash> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sven-eckelmann-ppa-mupen64plus-raring.list:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sven-eckelmann/ppa-mupen64plus/ubuntu raring main
[13:20] <unopaste> yash you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[13:20] <Mithrildar> Oucxh
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> yash: copy to http://pasie.org  like I said....
[13:21] <Mithrildar> Woooooooooooooooooot
[13:21] <Mithrildar> Wooooooot
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> yash: did you upgrade direct from Raring to Trusty, or did you upgrade to each release in between?
[13:21] <k1l> raring? o_O
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> k1l: 3rd line
[13:22] <Mithrildar> It worked histo
[13:22] <histo> Mithrildar: cool
[13:22] <Mithrildar> It detects Windows
[13:22] <Mithrildar> Is it worth redoing this with EFI?
[13:22] <yash> i installed 13.04 directly
[13:22] <histo> Mithrildar: first issue was gpt stuffs, second was the bootloader was removed when you did whatever with gdisks
[13:22] <Mithrildar> I don't think it was
[13:22] <Mithrildar> I just was being g stupid
[13:23] <Mithrildar>  But yay
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> yash: yes but you have Trusty sources in your output. Did you upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04 directly, or did you upgrade to the releases in between?
[13:23] <histo> Mithrildar: It doesn't be anything. That was definately the issues
[13:23] <philinux> yash;~ copy and paste this in then post back the link generated cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[13:23] <histo> Mithrildar: garbage in > garbage out
[13:23] <histo> also has ppa stuff
[13:24] <Mithrildar> So histo, should I retry this with an EFI install or just continue with this
[13:24] <histo> Mithrildar: wait what?  you want to boot windows in bios mode and ubuntu in efi mode?
[13:24] <Mithrildar> Both in EFI ofcourse
[13:24] <gon_> e
[13:24] <gon_> e
[13:24] <gon_> m
[13:25] <gon_> mm
[13:25] <gon_> mm
[13:25] <histo> Mithrildar: yeah you could retry if you want or leave it as is. It's your computer do what you want.
[13:25] <gon_> mm
[13:25] <Pici> gon_: please stop
[13:25] <gon_> m
[13:25] <gon_> sorry
[13:25] <Mithrildar> EFI is slightly safer so I guess I'll do that
[13:25] <gon_> uu\
[13:25] <yash> i did not upgrade releases in between
[13:26] <philinux> yash;~ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[13:26] <philinux> use copy and paste
[13:26] <histo> Mithrildar: safer than what?
[13:26] <ThKo> Hi, if I make apt-get install nodejs I’ll get v0.6.19 … Is there a way, without „make“ on raspberry PI to get version 0.8?
[13:26] <ThKo> Maybe other mirror?
[13:26] <Mithrildar> Regular BIOS, rootkit protection
[13:26] <histo> ThKo: since the raspberry pi can't run ubuntu you are in the wrong channel
[13:27] <histo> Mithrildar: I think you need some kind of protection from yourself more than a bios rootkit protection.
[13:27] <Mithrildar> Lol
[13:28] <Mithrildar> Ohwell it will only take 15 mins
[13:28] <varunendra> Mithrildar, is windows booting fine in MBR mode?
[13:28] <Mithrildar> It worked fine yeah
[13:29] <Mithrildar> Didn't fuklky install Ubuntu though
[13:29] <histo> Mithrildar: why not just remove windows and run just ubuntu
[13:29] <Mithrildar> Thanks again for the help by the way
[13:30] <Mithrildar> Need Windows for some stuff at uni
[13:30] <Mithrildar> Sadly
[13:30] <varunendra> Mithrildar, as far as I know, windows installed in MBR mode will only work in MBR mode. If it can be converted to EFI mode somehow, I'm not aware of the technique. It is surely possible in Ubuntu, but probably not in Windows.
[13:30] <yash> it says /home is a directory
[13:30] <Mithrildar> Reinstalling windows in efi mode
[13:31] <histo> yash: what are you doing?
[13:31] <histo> ActionParsnip: see what I mean
[13:32] <varunendra> Mithrildar, yeah, that is the only possible way I know of. In general, if you are planning a dualboot, install both Ubuntu and Windows in either EFI mode, or legacy (MBR) mode. A mixup is neither easy nor recommended.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> yash: run:   sudo apt-get update      copy ALL the text and make a pastebin of the text
[13:32] <Hibernator> To enable hibernation in Ubuntu 14.04... do I follow this here http://askubuntu.com/a/458899 or https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[13:32] <Mathisen> yash pastebin = copy all text and paste it in to http://pastie.org/
[13:33]  * histo senses troll
[13:33] <Mithrildar> Yeah varunendra I'm installing both in efi
[13:34]  * varunendra misses the days when he used to have that much time, installing OSes over & over again :p
[13:34] <Mithrildar> I don't really have the time
[13:35] <varunendra> then security paranoia Mithrildar ? X)
[13:35] <apenneb> How do I configure bash to colorize my git prompt?
[13:35] <Mithrildar> But if I don't do it now I need to spend more time
[13:36] <Mithrildar> Not really paranoia just need some fake sense of security
[13:36] <varunendra> lol ! :D
[13:36] <histo> Mithrildar: remember we talked about linux is not windows
[13:36] <Mithrildar> I know I know
[13:36] <histo> Mithrildar: with the whole av debacle
[13:36] <Mithrildar> Yeah I remember that
[13:38] <histo> Mithrildar: but like I say it's your system do what you want.
[13:40] <Mathisen> recomend a god program to recover lost data " deleted files " suport for ntfs to would be nice
[13:40] <philinux> Mathisen;~ testdisk and photorec
[13:40] <Mathisen> philinux thx
[13:41] <philinux> Mathisen;~ best run from a live usb or disk, read all docs first
[13:41] <histo> Mathisen: testdisk
[13:42] <histo> Mathisen: if they are just deleted testdisk, if you ahve to carve photorec, scalpel or foremost
[13:42] <philinux> Mathisen;~ dont use the drive with the deleted stuff on
[13:42] <histo> Mathisen: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Undelete_files_from_NTFS_with_TestDisk
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Mathisen: you will need a partition of the same or greater size as the partition you are recovering if you use foremost
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Mathisen: you will lose file name and location data but the files may be recovered.
[13:43] <XATRIX> Hi guys, what's wrong do i do while i'm trying to remove all the kernel image packages 3.11 ?
[13:43] <XATRIX> xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ dpkg --get-selections linux-image* | grep 3.11 | awk {'print $1'} | xargs echo
[13:43] <XATRIX> linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic linux-image-3.11.0-13-generic linux-image-3.11.0-14-generic linux-image-3.11.0-15-generic linux-image-extra-3.11.0-12-generic linux-image-extra-3.11.0-13-generic linux-image-extra-3.11.0-14-generic linux-image-extra-3.11.0-15-generic
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Mathisen: much easier, and drastically more reliable to restore from your backups
[13:43] <adeligen> Hello everyone. I'm having issues with a popping sound rapidly occurring over and over. I've narrowed it down to a problem with Realtek. In Windows I have a similar issue where I go into the config tool and disable the front audio ports. How would I go about this in Ubuntu as there is no Realtek config tool?
[13:43] <XATRIX> http://fpaste.org/115990/04740585/
[13:43] <Mathisen> loose file names.. that will be a problem is this the same for testdisk ?
[13:43] <XATRIX> why does it say that i have no such packages installed ?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> adeligen: what is the output of:  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> adeligen: you can disable ports etc in alsamixer
[13:45] <philinux> XATRIX;~ what does this show apt-cache policy linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic
[13:45] <donkey777> hello. anybody could help/advice about rar password recovery? password was made long and with numbers, more then 10 chars, written - note lost and forgotten some years ago. know some characters that are in, but don't remember layout. all free downloadable tools doesn't work, even if it worked for some days. any ideas? sorry, all the action on windows.
[13:45] <adeligen> Well what is happening is the audio port is appearing and disappearing (causing the popping) similar to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55GPNlwiYVE
[13:46] <adeligen> The output of that command is http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=69f56d010cb19b26e72691c01bab0b373db36686
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> adeligen: will you please run the command above, it will make a URL, what is it please
[13:47] <Mathisen> well 10  minutes left on my work hours.. i take a look at the documentation tomorow... thx anyway for the tip philinux histo ActionParsnip
[13:49] <astone> dd
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> adeligen: try alsamixer in a terminal. May help
[13:50] <trijntje> donkey777: what do you mean 'do not work'? It could take months or centuries to recover a 10 character password, so the fact that you haven't found it after a few days doesnt mean its not 'working'
[13:51] <Oneill>  I have this ubuntu server with 1 of the 4 cpu's stuck at 100% but "top" doesnt show any processes running at high cpu cost
[13:51] <Oneill> no idea whats up
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Oneill: try htop
[13:51] <adeligen> ActionParsnip: Anything particular? alsamixer is the same as that video, where the front panel controls jump in and out
[13:52] <Oneill> ActionParsnip i did, htop doesnt report anything out of usual
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> adeligen: i cant view youtube here (at work)
[13:52] <Oneill> but the 4th cpu is stuck at 100%
[13:53] <varunendra> donkey777, I don't think this kind of support is allowed here, but search the net for "GPU based brute-force" on rar passwords. Dramatically reduces the expected time from months to hours.
[13:53] <donkey777> thanks
[13:54] <adeligen> ActionParsnip: Thanks anyway. Basically all it is, the Sound settings (and alsamixer) are showing "Built-in Audio", and every few seconds a "Headphone" option appears and disappears (in time with the popping sounds).
[13:54] <adeligen> Would there be a way to blacklist this "Headphones" device?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> adeligen: let me search
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> adeligen: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel power_save=0 power_save_controller=N" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> adeligen: reboot to test
[13:56] <adeligen> Will do. Thanks for the help!
[13:57] <Mithrildar> OK histo: how do I exit tty during the install
[13:58] <Mithrildar> Nvm sorry
[13:59] <Ar_GuNner> i have a very basic problem regarding javascript canvas very basic proble
[14:01] <delgiudices> how do i start a process and save the pid in a file so i can kill it later
[14:03] <dbugger> Hello guys. How can I install mod_rewrite on Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:04] <sbaitso> why are glyphicons distorted on ubuntu
[14:04] <bcvery> Ar_GuNner, ask in ##javascript
[14:04] <delgiudices> how to save a process pid in a file so i can kill it later
[14:05] <Guest88502> bonjour ?
[14:05] <Mithrildar> Hello
[14:05] <bcvery> !fr | Guest88502
[14:05] <Guest88502> c'est un canal francais ?
[14:07] <Ar_GuNner> bcvery: look at this just run this code http://www.codejaw.com/g/w43f5 now i want x coordinate of this rectangle how do i get it
[14:07] <scri66le> Anyone know how to save the "Connect to Server" list in Nautilus?
[14:08] <bcvery> Ar_GuNner, this is Ubuntu support, that is off topic here, please ask in ##javascript
[14:08] <skelterjohn> i have a really weird issue with my sound - i can't get it to play though my headphones without it also playing through a built in speaker in the computer tower itself
[14:08] <skelterjohn> i try various ways to toggle both of those in alsamixer, but only when master, headphone, speaker, and pcm are all one do any of them play
[14:08] <Ar_GuNner> bcvery: oh i sorry i thought you said just ask ! i did'nt made a full read my bad
[14:08] <skelterjohn> and then it's both headphone and computer speaker
[14:08] <bcvery> Ar_GuNner, no worries
[14:09] <jiffe98> where can I find the ubuntu 14.04 live cd?
[14:10] <compdoc> jiffe98, its there on the websote
[14:10] <compdoc> the desktop version
[14:10] <function9> when I boot my PC, the boot splash comes up, I press enter and another splash comes up, what is that splash called?
[14:11] <Mithrildar> Login screen?
[14:11] <function9> no before that
[14:11] <Mithrildar> GRUB?
[14:11] <function9> usually  you see the runtime process, but instead the ubuntu splash is there in view
[14:12] <function9> what do you call that?
[14:12] <Mithrildar> No idea sorry
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> function9: plymouth?
[14:14] <Mithrildar> Bah didn't work again with efi, no efi then I guess
[14:14] <varunendra> function9, the "splash" screen? If you remove the word "splash" from the kernel boot line, you see kernel messages instead of that screen.
[14:14] <function9> ActionParsnip: that could be it. I need to look into how I can change the picture
[14:15] <philinux> jiffe98;~ http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> function9: lots of plymouth themes around
[14:16] <function9> varunendra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth this is what I want to change
[14:16] <function9> ActionParsnip: ty
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> jiffe98: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso    MD5: dccff28314d9ae4ed262cfc6f35e5153
[14:18] <jiffe98> gotcha
[14:18] <jiffe98> thanks
[14:18] <gotcha> who? what? when?
[14:19] <philinux> lol
[14:30] <sa_> hi all
[14:31] <daftykins> hello.
[14:32] <sa_> any body would hve any idea on MAAS SERVER
[14:32] <sa_> any body would hve any idea on MAAS SERVER
[14:32] <sa_> any body would hve any idea on MAAS SERVER
[14:32] <sa_> any body would hve any idea on MAAS SERVER
[14:33] <sa_> PLEASE PING ME
[14:33] <bcvery> !patience | sa_
[14:33] <cfhowlett> sa_ that's more than a bit annoying - congratulations
[14:34] <sa_> I INSTALLED MAAS SERVER SUCCESFULLY BUT I DONT HVE ANY REFERENCE TO CREATE A NODE
[14:34] <cfhowlett> sa_ stop capital letters
[14:34] <jdowdle> I'm having trouble mounting a NFS share on a 12.04 box. When issuing the mount command, it times out. It's thru vagrant - but I've mounted other NFS shares via vagrant before. I think the base box chef/ubuntu12.04 is possibly missing something.
[14:35] <sa_> i am using ubuntu 14 lts
[14:35] <cfhowlett> jdowdle such question might be answered sooner in #ubuntu-server
[14:36] <Muffin|Away> anyone have any ideas as to why UFW is blocking allowed ports?
[14:36] <jdowdle> cfhowlett: many thanks!
[14:36] <sa_> ufw  is for  firewall
[14:36] <cfhowlett> !ufw|MuffinMedic
[14:37] <MuffinMedic> yea cfhowlett i looked. not much. my configuration has the ports allowed
[14:37] <sa_> u can enable  r disable firewall at startup level. by using command UFW
[14:38] <MuffinMedic> yea it works when i disable it. but i don't want to run without a firewall, so I'm trying to figure out why it's blocking things in the ALLOW rules
[14:38] <cfhowlett> MuffinMedic I don't know enough about UFW to suggest anything more useful that disable then restart UFW and/or reset the configuration
[14:39] <bim> hello. i cannot seem to install modphp5 for apache i installed the apache2 metapackage and php5 libapache2_mod_php5 but i dont get any php5 module in /etc/apache2/modules_availabel
[14:39] <sa_> please help me out from maas server.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> !away > Karthick|brb
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> sa_: https://maas.ubuntu.com/
[14:40] <skinofstars> jdowdle: is your home encrypted?
[14:40] <skinofstars> you can't mount nfs to encryptfs
[14:41] <jdowdle> skinofstars: I don't think so. How would I check? Home/host machine is OSX
[14:41] <MuffinMedic> fehlerbim: what happens if you do "a2enmod php5"?
[14:41] <subz3r0> ./mnt and /media is for mounting purposes...
[14:41] <skinofstars> jdowdle: i don't know. that's an osx issue i'm afraid.
[14:41] <subz3r0> not the /home
[14:42] <subz3r0> if you want it in your home, mount it to /mnt/bla and use ln to link it
[14:42] <jdowdle> skinofstars: Pretty sure I'm not encrypted in either folder
[14:44] <Krypt> Quick question if anyone can answer. My graphics card is a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 . If I wanted to use the drivers from amd (Catalyst) I would need to be on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS right?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Krypt: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[14:44] <fehlerbim> MuffinMedic: ERROR: Module php5 does not exist!
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Krypt: known issue with Xorg and 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx in Precise
[14:45] <fehlerbim> MuffinMedic: i am on 12.04
[14:45] <MuffinMedic> fehlerbim: try installing it again. "apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5"
[14:45] <Krypt> Thanks for the link
[14:46] <MuffinMedic> fehlerbim: and then restart apache
[14:46] <fehlerbim> MuffinMedic: well. that worked. i dont think i want to even know why
[14:47] <fehlerbim> MuffinMedic: ty
[14:49] <MuffinMedic> lol fehlerbim yay
[14:51] <fehlerbim> MuffinMedic: no really. that is windowsish behavior. i did apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 php5 php5-cli bevore why i need to reinstall mod-php5 is beyond me.
[14:51] <MuffinMedic> haha idk
[14:53] <jhutchins> fehlerbim: It's important to actually read the feedback utilities like apt-get give you when you run them.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> jhutchins: been saying that for ages. People post text on forums and the system has already told them the issue
[14:55] <fehlerbim> jhutchins: yeah well. it said modphp5 isnt happy with the mpm-worker. do you want to install mpm-prefork. i said yes and it finished without errors.
[15:00] <skypce> good morning all
[15:00] <habbon1> Hi, is there any paid support in Paris ? It's for a one-shot, someone who as a probleme with is installation.
[15:00] <skypce> how can i create a custom tasksel task?
[15:01] <iamwhoiam> hello people, is this the right channel to ask a question concerning irc issue that i have with ubuntu and irssi?
[15:02] <cfhowlett> iamwhoiam yes - provide details
[15:03] <coagr> #Curitiba
[15:06] <iamwhoiam> cfhowlett: i cannot connect to any server using irssi. Connection time out. Strange thing is that using quassel and xchat clients i can connect. Telnet to chat.freenode.net 6667 returns "trying 37.blah.blah.blah" and stops there...
[15:06] <ElysiumNet> iamwhoiam: are there multiple network interfaces?
[15:06] <fehlerbim> iamwhoiam: irc.freenode.net?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> iamwhoiam ow.  weird.  I wouldn't know where to begin trying to troubleshoot.  sorry.  ask the channel in general, i.e. not directed at me.
[15:07] <iamwhoiam> fehlerbim: the same
[15:07] <ElysiumNet> fehlerbim: irc and chat resolve to the same server
[15:07] <iamwhoiam> ElysiumNet: multiple network interfaces meaning?
[15:07] <iamwhoiam> ElysiumNet: :)
[15:08] <ElysiumNet> iamwhoiam: do you have multiple devices attached to your computer that can connect to a network
[15:08] <ElysiumNet> don't make me go lawyernese there
[15:09] <iamwhoiam> ElysiumNet: nope..
[15:10] <iamwhoiam> ElysiumNet: the strange thing is that i can connect with GUIs
[15:10] <iamwhoiam> ElysiumNet: otherwise i would say that it is probably a port thing or something
[15:12] <holstein> iamwhoiam: could still be the port.. if the other clients are not using the same port..
[15:12] <holstein> iamwhoiam: i have a shell account i connect to and from there, i have to use a different port in irssi to connect..
[15:13] <gillzon> somone knows how to setup a server to send mail from multiple domain addresses?
[15:13] <iamwhoiam> holstein: i tried the 666(0-9), no luck
[15:13] <iamwhoiam> and of course reinstalling irssi
[15:13] <iamwhoiam> and weechat
[15:14] <holstein> iamwhoiam: i would try using the one that the other clients are connecting on
[15:14] <Caroga> guys, i feel confuss.
[15:14] <holstein> iamwhoiam: you can always set up an irc server locally, and connect with your client and make sure that your irssi can work.. i can say, irssi works here
[15:15] <Caroga> imagebin.org gets blacklisted for malware, but it's still listed in this channel as the main place where to upload screenshots. nobody had any problems with that here?
[15:15] <holstein> Caroga: you can use what you like to share images
[15:16] <Caroga> i understand that.
[15:16] <cfhowlett> Caroga nope.  imagebin is still clean so far as I know, but you have options ...
[15:16] <Caroga> i knows
[15:16] <Caroga> just wondering
[15:16] <holstein> Caroga: you should always surf the internet with caution, and only visit trusted sites.. there are many things that can cause a "False positive", or, sites that are not triggering any warnings
[15:16] <Pici> Caroga: Thanks for the heads up.  I guess I'll replace that in the factoids for the time being.
[15:17] <cfhowlett> Caroga what app reported image.bin as malware?
[15:17] <holstein> cfhowlett: most browsers have been..
[15:18] <Caroga> cfhowlett, google flagged it
[15:18] <cfhowlett> holstein testing in FF now ...
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> use dropbox and make a URL of images there, dead handy
[15:18] <Caroga> cfhowlett, http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http%3A%2F%2Fimagebin.org%2F314951&client=googlechrome&hl=en-US
[15:18] <Caroga> Pici, http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http%3A%2F%2Fimagebin.org%2F314951&client=googlechrome&hl=en-US
[15:18] <Pici> Caroga: yeah, I was just looking at that.
[15:19] <Caroga> holstein, i knows, but as it seems i think that imagebin.org got code injected from one of their partners or something.
[15:19] <philinux> Caroga;~ i used this the other day http://postimage.org/
[15:19] <BNewB> http://askubuntu.com/questions/452556/how-to-set-up-nvidia-optimus-bumblebee-in-14-04 Do I just add "bumblebee-indicator" in the command of Startup Applications?
[15:19] <Caroga> BNewB, yeah
[15:20] <Caroga> philinux, thanks, no need for an image service now, was something i needed the other day to report a bug to launchpad, i noticed it then.
[15:20] <holstein> Caroga: i have just been personally avoiding it.. not sure why its still in the factoids.. but, be sure you do your own research.. thanks for pointing it out
[15:20] <Caroga> just wanted to check if it still exists since i was on another device which could have flagged it itself. Now just wanted to mention it here as well, to choose another service for people here ;-)
[15:21] <iamwhoiam> holstein: ok, so: one computer connects with irssi and port 6667 (the one i am using now).. Using  the other computer, no terminal based client connects when using 6667, but ONLY with 8001
[15:21] <Caroga> holstein, no problem, glad to be of any service.
[15:21] <Caroga> iamwhoiam, 6667 is SSL right, did you configured your clients to accept invalid SSL certificates as well ?
[15:22] <BNewB> Caroga: Thanks .... just this then http://imgur.com/HyJdFdC
[15:22] <Symmetria> man, I was getting so confused with the interfaces on this server, eventually I found the right interface to use, but what the hell is p5p4 as an interface name
[15:22] <iamwhoiam> holstein: i think it is strange.. solved, but still annoying and nice to know why this happened
[15:22] <Symmetria> heh, I even have ethernet interfaces called rename8 and rename10
[15:22] <Caroga> Self signed are "invalid" SSL certs, which wont work on IRC clients unless you accept it by setting the flag to true
[15:22] <Caroga> BNewB, that should be it yeah
[15:22] <iamwhoiam> Caroga: i think not. i think 6697 7000 7070 are ssl
[15:23] <Caroga> iamwhoiam, where are you connecting to, and from where?
[15:23] <Caroga> If i may interfere that is xD
[15:23] <iamwhoiam> Caroga: and the main thing was that in this computer, for example, everything worked out of the box, no need to do anything. The other computer, and only for terminal based irc clients, needed the change of the port? hmmm
[15:24] <holstein> iamwhoiam: i would look and confirm. the ssl suggestion seems quite plausible.. it could cause per machine inconsistencies
[15:24] <A_I_> hi
[15:24] <A_I_> how can I know the build date of a package ?
[15:25] <iamwhoiam> holstein, Caroga : ok, i will check how i can check how the clients deal with ssl and get back to you
[15:25] <iamwhoiam> thanks for the help
[15:25] <iamwhoiam> !!!!
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: apt-cache show package | grep -i bui       may show it
[15:27] <A_I_> nop ActionParsnip
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: if not, just have a rewad of the output without the pipe to grep
[15:27] <Caroga> iamwhoiam, good luck
[15:28] <Pici> A_I_: One way would be to look at the most recent changelog entry. It isn't precise, but without looking at launchpad itself that would be the quickest way: apt-get changelog packagename
[15:30] <A_I_> thanks Pici that's it !
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: dpkg-deb --info packagename
[15:30] <_Myself> Greetings forlks.
[15:30] <_Myself> folks*
[15:30] <Pici> ActionParsnip: that will only work for .deb files.
[15:31] <_Myself> Im kinda new to desktop ubuntu and I need someone who could guide me configuring it and installing drivers.
[15:32] <cfhowlett> _Myself OK - more details needed
[15:33] <^Mike> welp, I'm pretty sure when I apt-get upgraded yesterday it broke wifi -_-
[15:33] <^Mike> I can connect to the AP, but then it looks like no packets go out
[15:33] <philinux> _Myself;~ drivers for which hardware
[15:34] <_Myself> cfhowleft: I just need how to install applications or how can I use terminal, I  have a decent knowledge on the server version because I have a VPS
[15:34] <cfhowlett> _Myself applications via the software center is the usual method
[15:34] <_Myself> Well, I have an Intel Atom 1.66Ghz CPU, 1 GB Ram and an Intel GMA 3150.
[15:35] <_Myself> And ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[15:35] <cfhowlett> _Myself wait, you're running server version?
[15:35] <philinux> _Myself;~ probably no drivers needed then
[15:35] <_Myself> No.
[15:35] <cfhowlett> _Myself right.  Ubuntu Software Center
[15:35] <_Myself> And wheres that ?
[15:36] <_Myself> Sorry for my dumbness ._.
[15:36] <bazhang> !manual
[15:36] <bukai> Hi, i have installed java client VM on my ubuntu server , and it is killling my sling processes randomly. how do i solve this issue?
[15:36] <cfhowlett> _Myself no apology needed.  look in the dash - hit the windows / super key to bring up the search bar
[15:37] <philinux> _Myself;~ you could install intel graphics drivers but I found that on my acer 1410 they made no difference http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/intel-linux-graphics-driver-installer-1-0-5
[15:38] <philinux> _Myself;~ on the left hand side launcher orange suitcase icon with A on it. click that for software center
[15:38] <_Myself> i understood
[15:39] <Mithrildar> The irony, after spending hours installing my dual boot of Windows 8 and Ubuntu 14.04 correctly, I can still mount my Windows partition without root access
[15:39] <cfhowlett> _Myself Welcome to ubuntu.  you might also look at the ubuntu forums for useful info
[15:40] <cfhowlett> _Myself also www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[15:40] <Mithrildar> Tried "sudo chown root:root /media/USR/NUMID -R" and it seemd to do something (atleast it required a minute), but too bad
[15:40] <_Myself> BTW, to say the truth, I only installed ubuntu / linux because in it I can use the GLSL shaders of the Love2D game framework. Well, I searched Love2D in ubuntu software service and I didnt found anything, that's why I came here. Any thoughs ???
[15:41] <Mithrildar> _Myself tried sudo apt-get install ?
[15:41] <gotcha> can anyone help me on how to remove ruby1.9.1 and isntall ruby1.9.2 instead?
[15:41] <bcvery> _Myself, you can download their PPA from their website love3d.org
[15:41] <_Myself> Mithrildar: That's the problem, I dont know how to access the terminal
[15:41] <_Myself> O.o
[15:41] <bcvery> !ppa | _Myself
[15:42] <bcvery> _Myself, ** love2d.org sorry
[15:42] <Mithrildar> Just click the button in the top left and search for Terminal
[15:42] <BNewB> http://imgur.com/HyJdFdC  I see that Bumblebee is off(the disabled/blocked application indicator at the top). Why is it off? I used this to install Bumblebee http://askubuntu.com/a/452557
[15:43] <_Myself> Also, I know most of the basic things when it comes to the terminal. I have a VPS machine, where I host my game servers, and it runs ubuntu 12.10. I kinda know a small piece of bash and python well.
[15:43] <Trudko> Guys I got ubuntu virtual server on one hosting and I would like to have exact same copy locally , what is best way to create this copy?
[15:44] <t0ntin> Hi, all. Does anyone know how to make Flash work with Chrome? I upgraded and it stopped working.
[15:44] <bcvery> _Myself, you can launch the terminal from the Dash (press Windows/Super key and start typing 'Terminal') or by pressing Ctrl Alt t
[15:44] <_Myself> Ok.
[15:45] <_Myself> Thanks guys :)
[15:45] <marjinal1st> How can I print multiple documents (images actually) in one page, by using cups command line?
[15:45] <mjuszcza1> What will be the first versionof ubuntu without upstart?
[15:45] <holstein> t0ntin: chrome integrates its own flash
[15:45] <ThKo> Hi guys, is it possible to create a file where I can insert a lot of commands, for example sudo apt-get install node sudo apt-get install apach2 etc…But so that I havn’t to confirm that it’ll use e.g. 14 MB space?
[15:46] <t0ntin> holstein, I upgraded Ubuntu from 12.10 to the latest version, and flash stopped working on Chrome. It works on firefox.
[15:47] <cfhowlett> T0by_ 12.10 is no longer supported
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !eol
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !12.10
[15:47] <Pici> cfhowlett: from 12.10
[15:47] <holstein> t0ntin: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[15:47] <holstein> t0ntin: you can look there to see, factually, what flash you are using in which browser.. could be google is not updating the PPA for 12.10, since its EOL
[15:47] <cfhowlett> Pici ah.  OK
[15:48] <daftykins> and also wrong user.
[15:49] <T0by_> cfhowlett: Sorry what? :)
[15:49] <T0by_> Ah.
[15:49] <t0ntin> holstein, it says i have version 11,2,202,378 installed
[15:49] <cfhowlett> T0by_ fat-finger tourettes.  sorry.
[15:51] <holstein> t0ntin: you can read there that 11 is the older version, thats is the only version adobe provides desktp linux. you can get the latest from chrome, but, you are using a dead operating system.. that is not getting updates. you are not promised updated versions of anything in 12.10 any longer automatically
[15:52] <gotcha> hey guys, im trying to remove  this: ruby 1.8.7 (2011-06-30 patchlevel 352) [x86_64-linux] so i can install a new version and the system uses the new version
[15:52] <gotcha> can anyone help me on how to do that?
[15:53] <cfhowlett> gotcha sudo apt-get purge ruby             right?
[15:53] <t0ntin> holstein, ok thanks
[15:53] <gotcha> cfhowlett, i did that, doing "ruby -v" still shows what i pasted
[15:54] <_Myself> Well, bye guys, will adventure myself here :D
[15:54] <_Myself> Thanks a lot :)
[15:54] <philinux> gotcha;~ apt-cache policy ruby
[15:54] <cfhowlett> gotcha huh.  Well, officially above my rating then.  sorry.
[15:54] <lyda> what's the state of ruby on 14.04?
[15:55] <cfhowlett> !info ruby
[15:55] <lyda> i installed ruby2.0 and it dragged 1.9.1 with it.
[15:55] <lyda> and /usr/bin/ruby points to the 1.9 version.
[15:55] <somsip> lyda: how did you install 2.0 if the official repo is 1.9?
[15:56] <gotcha> philinux, this showed me some information that i dont understand well
[15:56] <somsip> !info ruby2.0
[15:57] <philinux> gotcha;~ what did it say
[15:57] <gotcha> philinux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7760767/
[15:57] <lyda> somsip: uh...  Version: 2.0.0.484-1ubuntu2
[15:57] <lyda> somsip: somehow i'm missing your point.
[15:57] <philinux> gotcha;~ what ubuntu version you running
[15:57] <somsip> lyda: yeah, so there's a dual pacakge. I figured it out before you answered. I suppose that 1.9 will take precedence for some reason established by the maintainers. Maybe due to library support? The way that Python2.7 has precedence over Python3.0?
[15:58] <gotcha> philinux, 12.04
[15:58] <lyda> somsip: thanks.
[15:58] <gotcha> philinux, 12.04 server LTS
[15:58] <somsip> lyda: only a theory for now - trying to find a reference that says something helpful
[15:58] <lyda> what's the state of ruby 2.0 vs. 1.9 on 14.04 from someone who actually knows the answer?
[15:59] <somsip> lyda: and, you can help yourself now
[16:02] <philinux> gotcha;~ it says ruby (4.8)
[16:02] <philinux>     Transitional package for ruby1.8
[16:02] <lyda> somsip: i didn't come here for an argument, but this channel is rather awful for people giving "answers" that are unhelpful.  next time do the info command first, then give your "answer."
[16:02] <philinux> gotcha;~ so 1.8 is the version in precise
[16:03] <gotcha> philinux, yes, i want to uninstall that so i can install and run 1.9.2
[16:09] <lyda> the actual answer is found here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452243/what-versions-of-ruby-are-supported-in-14-04
[16:10] <lyda> obviously some of what's there is wrong and i so rarely participate in stackexchange-esque things that i lack the rep to comment.
[16:16] <lyda> however, for the curious, installing ruby2.0 does not by default make ruby2.0 the default (or at least not in an upgrade)
[16:18] <lyda> the combination of the cluelessness of ruby devs and the intransigence of debian devs leads to this sort of carry on.
[16:18] <holstein> lyda: it can be challenging to go "out of repo" when the entire system is expecting to work with one specific version
[16:22] <gon_> )
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> !away > Caroga_afk
[16:28] <gon_> why images captured by guvcview are not opening
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !details|gon_
[16:28] <gon_> when I try to open jpg
[16:29] <gon_> gimp says
[16:30] <nathanel1itane> question: how can i set my LVDS laptop monitor  (1600x900) top pan vertically only and match my  external HDMI output (1920x1080) to get the missing  cropped space to show on mouse hover
[16:31] <gon_> jpgs are corrupted
[16:31] <holstein> gon_: are they?
[16:31] <gon_> jpg image plugin could not open image
[16:31] <gon_> other programs can't open images
[16:32] <holstein> gon_: can you open them with something else? try on another machine.. try with a live CD. make sure your drive is not failing
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> gon_: does the file command say they are images?
[16:32] <holstein> gon_: you can go on and assume that ubuntu can deal with jpg files out of the box..
[16:32] <cfhowlett> gon_ ONLY jpg fails?  or all images fail?
[16:33] <holstein> *if* the jpg's are in fact corrupt, then, they are corrupt..
[16:34] <gon_> onlyoh
[16:34] <gon_> oh
[16:34] <gon_> bitmap works
[16:34] <gon_> but jpg not works
[16:35] <cfhowlett> gon_ sounds like you've got bad .jpg's
[16:35] <Leeuwenhok> Hello
[16:35] <Leeuwenhok> :p
[16:35] <gon_> but other jpgs are okay
[16:35] <holstein> gon_: works here.. download a different "known good" one from the internet to test with
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> gon_: does the file comamnd in terminal say they are jpegs ?
[16:35] <gon_> in file explorer
[16:35] <gon_> icon is jpg
[16:35] <Leeuwenhok> cfhowlett
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> gon_: no, in terminal.
[16:36] <Leeuwenhok> I got another problem. :p
[16:36] <gon_> how can i check ?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> gon_: what is the full location and name of one of the images
[16:36] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok ask away ...
[16:36] <Leeuwenhok> I had put ubuntu to upgrade from the software updater. It was downloading the files when I left the laptop unattended.
[16:37] <Leeuwenhok> When I came back I realized I had forgot to plug it in.
[16:37] <Leeuwenhok> The laptop shut down.
[16:37] <nathanel1itane> question: how can i set my LVDS laptop monitor  (1600x900) top pan vertically only and match my  external HDMI output (1920x1080) to get the missing  cropped space to show on mouse hover
[16:37] <Leeuwenhok> I was away for quite some hours.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Leeuwenhok
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: should do it
[16:38] <Leeuwenhok> Now I think update was interrupted mid-way.
[16:38] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok unlock the apt.  then run the upgrade commands again
[16:39] <Leeuwenhok> I turned on the laptop and booted to 13.10 just fine. Now that I open the software updater, it's saying sh*t about "partial".
[16:39] <Leeuwenhok> Do I press "partial upgrade" or "continue"?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: did you run the aptfix command that I made Ubottu give....?
[16:39] <Leeuwenhok> He didn't gimme any commands.
[16:39] <Leeuwenhok> Just 2 links.
[16:40] <cfhowlett> !aptfix > Leeuwenhok
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> [16:40] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok you gotta pay attention to messages, amigo
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: The thing between « and » are comands
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: there isnt a link there at all
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: let alone two links
[16:41] <nathanel1itane> anyone?
[16:41] <Leeuwenhok> I entered them. It asked for pass. Now, nothing's happening.
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: did you type your pass?
[16:42] <cfhowlett> nathanel1itane pretty esoteric query - if no else has that user case or experience = no response
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: also, when did ubottu give you 2 links??
[16:42] <Leeuwenhok> 5 hours ago.
[16:43] <Leeuwenhok> Yeah, I entered my pass.
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: well, you reasked and she gave you a command to run
[16:43] <Leeuwenhok> I'd really appreciate if someone rather helped me over TeamViewer.
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: ok and were you offered to kill a process / free up the file, or did the prompt just drop back?
[16:43] <Leeuwenhok> Nope
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: it has to be one or the other
[16:43] <Leeuwenhok> Drop back.
[16:43] <nathanel1itane> cfhowlett: understood, point is i am fiddling with xrandr but cannot seem to get it to pan only on the main laptop monitor to compensate for the missing virtual space
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: then thats not 'nope' is it....
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: ok, run:   sudo apt-get -f install
[16:44] <Leeuwenhok> I read half of it.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: then why would I type it al, read it ALL
[16:44] <Leeuwenhok> Should I close the Software Updater for now?
[16:44] <cfhowlett> nathanel1itane I've no knowledge of xrandr = sorry I can't be of assistance
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: yes
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: the command ubottu also will not work when the software updater is running, so close it and try again
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: then run:   sudo apt-get -f install;
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: without the trailing ;
[16:46] <Leeuwenhok> First cmd didn't work.
[16:46] <nathanesau1> I installed xubuntu (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop), but it changed my lockscreen. i want the default lockscreen, but it doesnt show up on compiz menu
[16:46] <kgj6k> Hi! Ubuntu 14.04 does not seem to offer LVM when doing manual partitioning (I want to encrypt the system) - is there a trick?
[16:47] <Thatguy> Anyone here used ssh-openserver with chroot?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> kgj6k: you dont have to use LVM to get an encrypted fs
[16:47] <cfhowlett> !encrypt|kgj6k
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> !info ssh-openserver
[16:48] <Leeuwenhok> ActionParsnip 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1666 not upgraded.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Thatguy: do you mean openssh-server?
[16:48] <Thatguy> yes sorry
[16:48] <Thatguy> trying to set a chrootdirectory
[16:48] <kgj6k> ActionParsnip: but I want to have an encrypted Swap partition and do not want two encrypted partitions/two passwords
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Leeuwenhok: ok then run:  sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:48] <Thatguy> but stops me logining
[16:48] <Leeuwenhok> Are those 2 separate commands?
[16:49] <paulus68> leeuwenhok; yes
[16:49] <Leeuwenhok> lol, I entered them at once. Do I have to enter the 2nd one again?
[16:50] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok yes
[16:51] <Leeuwenhok> Later. Right now, 2 hours remaining.
[16:51] <Leeuwenhok> 52 min remaining.
[16:51] <Leeuwenhok> I'm having a bad day, you know.
[16:52] <Leeuwenhok> I could just have reinstalled everything but my OCD didn't allow that.
[16:52] <daftykins> Leeuwenhok: that's lovely but please try and keep it about the support and not random conversation, thanks
[16:52] <Leeuwenhok> :p
[16:53] <Leeuwenhok> Sure.
[16:53] <A_Zman705> hi all
[16:53] <A_Zman705> quick question
[16:53] <A_Zman705> does ubuntu make any easy
[16:53] <nathanesau1> how do i switch to unity instead of light dm
[16:54] <Leeuwenhok> The list on the right shows a lot of people logged in. Are they actually viewing this chat or have they set auto-login on their clients?
[16:54] <A_Zman705> how do get my Nvidia card to use Nvidia driver, cause driver its using doesnt have 3d support for the card
[16:55] <A_Zman705> well im here but im clueless sorry
[16:55] <lyda> holstein: i'm not going "out of repo."  ruby2.0 is a package in the standard ubuntu repos.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: do you have an optimus system (Intel and Nvidia GPU)
[16:56] <A_Zman705> no clue, but its old
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: do you have an OS running on it now?
[16:56] <A_Zman705> its an old windows system i couldnt get windows disc for, so install ubuntu on it
[16:56] <OerHeks> lyda, running 64 bit?
[16:56] <A_Zman705> yes i running lubuntu
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: in device manager, what video chip do you see?
[16:57] <A_Zman705> lubuntu has device manager where
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: ahh I see
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: if you run:    sudo lshw -C display    in a terminal, what video chip(s) do you see/
[16:59] <A_Zman705> PCI (sysfs)
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: your pci bus is slow, give it a while
[17:00] <nathanesau1> is there any way to get the lockscreen menu showing on compiz settings manager? i cant change my lockscreen
[17:00] <A_Zman705> it return to prompt all it said
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: ok try:  lspci | grep -i vga
[17:02] <A_Zman705>  VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: ok thats better :)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:03] <mgaunard> hi folks
[17:03] <mgaunard> how can I add the key to debian repositories in ubuntu?
[17:04] <mgaunard> if I simply add them I have errors with unauthenticated packages
[17:04] <A_Zman705> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[17:04] <chrirc> hi.i changed the login image with ubuntu tweak. then i tried to restore the original image but i couldnt. as far as i know the background image  of login screen is in /usr/share/background/  but the one used now is not there
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: ok let me see what the duck says :)
[17:05] <A_Zman705> whos the duck
[17:06] <OerHeks> mgaunard, a mix of ubuntu + debian repos is a bad idea
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: its a search engine online.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: www.duckduckgo.com
[17:07] <A_Zman705> oic
[17:07] <A_Zman705> i use google lol
[17:07] <mgaunard> OerHeks: I want to get some packages from debian.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: seems the GPU is supported by the default nouveau driver. The proprietary driver doesnt reach that low
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: Precise (Ubuntu 12.04) has nvidia-96 which supports it but you are using Trusty
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: let me see if there is a PPA
[17:08] <mgaunard> OerHeks: I don't care if it's a bad idea, I want those packages and adding the debian repo temporarily to install them is the most convenient way
[17:08] <A_Zman705> huh english please
[17:08] <chrirc> how to restore the original login image?. i tried with dconf but it changed the log screen instead...not the login screen
[17:08] <holstein> mgaunard: its a good way to break things.. the debian sources are not for ubuntu
[17:09] <A_Zman705> so i need to install precise
[17:09] <mgaunard> holstein: that doesn't answer my question
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: the GPU you have is old but their is an opensource driver called nouveau
[17:09] <holstein> mgaunard: the answer is, you dont add the debian sources to ubuntu.. otherwise, you ask the creator of the sources for an ubuntu source..
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: if you run:    lsmod | grep nouv      what do you see?
[17:09] <A_Zman705> GPU?
[17:10] <mgaunard> holstein: I want to do it. This is non-negotiable. Just tell me how to add the key properly.
[17:10] <holstein> mgaunard: its not for ubuntu..
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: graphic processing unit
[17:10] <mgaunard> holstein: I don't care
[17:10] <holstein> mgaunard: you ask them to support the operating system you are uusing
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: the video chip on the nvidia video card you have
[17:10] <mgaunard> holstein: it's for a recent GCC version
[17:10] <mgaunard> it's not in ubuntu, it's in debian
[17:10] <mgaunard> it's compatible
[17:10] <A_Zman705> nothing
[17:10] <mgaunard> it works
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: your GPU is an Nvidia Geforce4 MX 440
[17:11] <holstein> mgaunard: there are likely other ways to get what you need in ubuntu that are supported
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: the nvidia driver doesnt support that chip any more
[17:11] <mgaunard> the only other way is to build it myself which is its own world of pain and is less likely to work because that kind of software needs specific patches for the ubuntu/debian environment
[17:11] <holstein> mgaunard: its not support here.. you can refer to something like http://askubuntu.com/questions/116257/adding-debian-sid-as-package-repository
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: but some nice people are making drivers for it for users with older hardware
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: its name is nouveau
[17:11] <mgaunard> anyway I don't want you to question what I want to do
[17:11] <mgaunard> just tell me how to do it
[17:12] <holstein> mgaunard: the "best" is to build it yourself. the debian version is expecting the debian sources..
[17:12] <A_Zman705> i ready to pitch this damn pc through the window it fustrating the crap out of me and i got 6 kids
[17:12] <mgaunard> holstein: clearly you know nothing about building GCC
[17:13] <holstein>  have "cherry picked" certain *.deb's that were quite simple an tested them in ubuntu.. but, i always carefullly proceed
[17:13] <holstein> i have *
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: just keep up wih updates and you will be fine
[17:13] <holstein> mgaunard: the debian sources are not supported
[17:13] <mgaunard> holstein: that's what I'm doing. Cherry-picking packages
[17:13] <mgaunard> I just want to be able to add the key so as to avoid a warning in some software I'm using
[17:13] <mgaunard> don't be an ass and give me the procedure instead of trying to prevent me from doing my job
[17:13] <A_Zman705> have the crap dont load, its slow at most times i just dont get what im doing wrong
[17:14] <A_Zman705> thought it might be video, cuz it worked fine for windows till i install this stuff
[17:14] <OerHeks> mgaunard, so you want a newer version of gcc, why not adding a ppa with 4.8.3 ? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ppa
[17:14] <mgaunard> OerHeks: I want 4.9
[17:14] <OerHeks> oh wat an attitude, mgaunard ....
[17:15] <mgaunard> the one with an attitude problem is you guys
[17:15] <mgaunard> don't question what I want to do
[17:15] <holstein> mgaunard: you can have what you like friend. but, you cant add sources for another operating system...
[17:15] <mgaunard> just answer my question
[17:15] <mgaunard> if you don't know how to do it, just shut up
[17:15] <mgaunard> don't pretend to help people
[17:15] <ikonia> mgaunard: enough
[17:15] <holstein> mgaunard: its not supported
[17:15] <ikonia> mgaunard: if you want to add debian repos to your ubuntu system - that is your issue
[17:15] <mgaunard> adding the key for another repository IS a supported operation
[17:15] <A_Zman705> brb
[17:15] <ikonia> that is not something that is recommended
[17:15] <holstein> mgaunard: its not an issue of not knowing how.. its that you shouldnt. if you want, add the sources.. but, i personally would just get the *.deb's and test. and know how to revert
[17:15] <mgaunard> ikonia: of course it's my issue. I just want to know how to add the fricking signature key to do it safely
[17:16] <holstein> mgaunard: its actually not..
[17:16] <holstein> !ppa | mgaunard
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: you can get a cheap nvidia that will run with the proprietary driver for cheap. You'll need an AGP one so it will be an eBay job
[17:16] <ikonia> mgaunard: you cannot add debian repos safely
[17:16] <holstein> mgaunard: outside soures are not supported here.. you ask the creators of the sources for ubuntu support
[17:16] <mgaunard> holstein: you're not the law. I do what the fuck I want with my computer
[17:16] <ikonia> mgaunard: they are not designed for ubuntu
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: I'm surprise the nouvaeu driver isn't loaded. Very weird
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: what is the output of:   dpkg -l | grep nouveau
[17:18] <A_Zman705> so something is wrong
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: yes but we'll work it out
[17:18] <A_Zman705> ii  libdrm-nouveau2:i386                                  2.4.52-1                                            i386         Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
[17:18] <A_Zman705> ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau                            1:1.0.10-1ubuntu2                                   i386         X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver
[17:19] <Guest85749> dpkg-reconfigure xserver something.
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: try:    echo "nouveau" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules     and reboot
[17:21] <A_Zman705> nouveau
[17:23] <A_Zman705> did i lose ya
[17:24] <A_Zman705> did you want me to reboot
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> A_Zman705: reboot the system
[17:24] <daftykins> the clue was in the message
[17:25] <vak> hi all
[17:26] <daftykins> hi
[17:26] <vak> are there any way to set quality when printing to a file (actually to pdf) ?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> vak: if you use cups-pdf it will give a printer that can make PDFs, not sure about setting quality. I'd imagine it's in there
[17:28] <vak> ActionParsnip: i have "print to file" option by default... ok, trying to install cups-pdf
[17:30] <A_Zman705> ok action im back but gotta go afk for a bit
[17:34] <vak> ActionParsnip: it does have printing quality, but has no file name and location for output :))))
[17:34] <daftykins> perhaps it comes up with a dialogue when you print to it
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> vak: I think it just goes to $HOME
[17:37] <llutz> vak: ~/PDF/ by default
[17:37] <vak> ActionParsnip: found in /etc settings ~/PDF :)
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> vak: that'll do then :)
[17:38] <vak> ActionParsnip: llutz: was not able to re-print a PDF with reduced DPI-settings to reduce PDF-file size ((((
[17:39] <vak> PDF file size remained the same for the lowest DPI setting (150 DPI)... 7 pages and 42Mb... boa...
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> vak: you could use imagemagick to set a lower dpi
[17:41] <vak> ActionParsnip: the PDF is already created...
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> vak: imagemagick can work on pdfs.....
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> vak: so the fact that it is created doesnt pose an issue
[17:42] <vak> ActionParsnip: oh, sounds nice
[17:42] <vak> thanks
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> vak: this isnt windows where you need to buy software to edit pdfs........
[17:55] <Guest4912> Hello !!! PLEASE, someone knows a Easy Way => how can I UPDATE my JAVA ? I found so many ways on google, But All are so long, with so many steps on TERMINAL... I need use my bank :( Please, Help :D  Thanks a Lot !
[17:55] <A_Zman705> im back
[17:55] <A_Zman705> action still around
[17:57] <daftykins> Guest4912: what browser are you using?
[17:58] <Guest4912> Firefox or Chrome...
[17:58] <PatoCarlos> Hello,how can I know what PHP version is supported on Ubuntu 14.04?
[17:58] <neomex_> libgdx
[17:58] <daftykins> Guest4912: good, only firefox is relevant now for java plugins. so it says you're out of date when you try to visit your online banking?
[17:58] <Guest4912> yes
[17:59] <eeee> PatoCarlos: apt-cache show php5
[17:59] <daftykins> PatoCarlos: apt-cache showpkg php5
[17:59] <neomex_> guys
[17:59] <neomex_> ive installed few differend desktops for ubuntu
[17:59] <Guest4912> I already did the plugins on Soft center... but not solve 100 %
[17:59] <daftykins> Guest4912: and what version do you have installed, of what type? run "java --version"
[17:59] <neomex_> because i really dont like unity
[17:59] <neomex_> and now when ubuntu loads
[17:59] <neomex_> it looks like lubuntu
[17:59] <daftykins> Guest4912: yes, just be aware you cannot use chrome or chromium at all now
[17:59] <neomex_> why and how to change that
[18:00] <Matrix2010> hello :)
[18:00] <Guest4912> java version "1.7.0_55" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.7) (7u55-2.4.7-1ubuntu1) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM
[18:00] <daftykins> neomex_: change session at the login screen, if you don't see the login screen disable auto login
[18:00] <PatoCarlos> thanks guys
[18:00] <Guest4912> ok
[18:00] <neomex_> but the session changing looks like ubuntu
[18:00] <neomex_> and when the os loads
[18:00] <Guest4912> I love firefox
[18:00] <neomex_> lubuntu*
[18:00] <daftykins> Guest4912: ok, openjdk. what does your bank website say when you try to visit with firefox?
[18:01] <daftykins> neomex_: so try xubuntu aka xfce
[18:01] <neomex_> im running xubuntu now as desktop
[18:01] <neomex_> but whenever i get back to session changing
[18:01] <Guest4912> The bank say: " You need update your java... "
[18:01] <neomex_> it looks like lubuntu
[18:01] <neomex_> and so it does when os is booting
[18:01] <A_Zman705> any display driver experts out there
[18:01] <neomex_> idk what could happen
[18:02] <daftykins> Guest4912: no more detail?
[18:02] <PreSSion>  cannonical said mir will be stable in 2016 with ubuntu 16.10,.. that means the phone and the tablet will come for 2016? i asked in ubuntu-phone channel before :D
[18:02] <Guest4912> 1 second. taking a look
[18:02] <daftykins> Guest4912: i suspect you're going to want to try the official non-open oracle java for that then. http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-78-jdk-and-jre-in-ubuntu-14-04-13-10-12-10-12-04-and-10-04-via-ppa-or-linux-mint17.html
[18:03] <neomex_> even when i choose original ubuntu unity it still has different desktop graphics and blueish style
[18:03] <daftykins> Guest4912: it does contain lots of commands yes, but this is the easiest way.
[18:03] <Gregor3000> Guest4912: try to install Oracle Java : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[18:03] <daftykins> Gregor3000: i already had it covered thanks.
[18:04] <Gregor3000> one more thing you can copy and paste commands line by line. it's actualyl just 3 commands
[18:04] <Gregor3000> you can also do it via software center
[18:04] <Gregor3000> without commands.
[18:05] <daftykins> Gregor3000: this will only serve to confuse.
[18:05] <PreSSion> so, for example, a game for example metro,... will be compatible in ubuntu mir?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> PreSSion  there's also #ubuntu-mir
[18:06] <Gregor3000> well if they plan on using Ubuntu they might learn how to add a PPA. many good programs  do not come in software center.
[18:06] <daftykins> Gregor3000: we do not support PPAs in here nor recommend they're used generally
[18:07] <daftykins> Gregor3000: i appreciate you only mean well, but there tends to be a certain etiquette for not jumping on someone elses ongoing assistance
[18:07] <mxO_> Hello, I would like to hibernate my computer from the terminal, is there a command for this?
[18:07] <Gregor3000> oh i see. didn't know that. since this PPA is in official Ubutnu community documentation i linked. i will now remove myself....
[18:07] <mxO_> I am running dualboot, and would like to set ubuntu to sleep and open windows
[18:08] <hbsaul> does anyone here would be kind to guide me on how to have kali persistence boot on UEFI mode?
[18:08] <holstein> !kali | hbsaul
[18:08] <mxO_> And should I hibernate or something else btw?
[18:09] <hbsaul> ok thank you
[18:09] <pavlos> mxO_, so you want to run 2 OS at the same time, one sleeping, one running?
[18:09] <holstein> hbsaul: you are free to research ubuntu's specific uefi docs.. but, they may or may not work.. i usually just do a normal install to a USB stick instead of persistent live mode
[18:09] <holstein> !uefi > hbsaul
[18:09] <tengopreguntas> can anybody do me a favor and run a script and tell me if it's working. i have a problem with cgroup
[18:10] <mxO_> pavlos: To be honest, I just wanna keep my xmonad windows as they are - and the simpliest solution I came across would be hibernate or sleep
[18:10] <hbsaul> got it #ubottu
[18:10] <Guest4912> daftykins  THANKS A LOT ! I will try... :)
[18:11] <daftykins> Guest4912: no problem, let us know if you get stuck - those commands should work fine for you though
[18:12] <histo> tengopreguntas: what script?
[18:13] <Leeuwenhok> The first thing I noticed about 14.04 is faster boot-time. Will I get that by upgrading too?
[18:13] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: you mean, you notied that documented?
[18:14] <Leeuwenhok> Nope, LiveUSB.
[18:14] <histo> Leeuwenhok: you should yes. Upgrade is the same as install
[18:14] <Leeuwenhok> Good to know that.
[18:14] <daftykins> depends on your current setup probably
[18:14] <Leeuwenhok> I love the faster boot-time. It beats Windows 8 to it.
[18:15] <daftykins> that's nice, but keep talk in here support only please.
[18:15] <tengopreguntas> histo: http://pastebin.com/wJnvtTb4
[18:15] <z0id> hello
[18:15] <Leeuwenhok> Alright.
[18:15] <tengopreguntas> histo: it just creates a group in cgroups and add a task, run "top" and see if it's only using  10% of your cpu resources the `stress` command
[18:15] <histo> tengopreguntas: what problem are you having?
[18:15] <tengopreguntas> z0id: hello
[18:16] <z0id> i just installed kate, and it installed about a million packages
[18:16] <vaniz_> I have an acer aspire one 751h with 3 partitions one /boot one root and one swap. In root and swap I chose physical area for encryption. grub is installed in the boot partition. I use easybcd to create an option for the grub bootloader from the windows bootloader. Both in standard boot and in recovery boot mode I get the error cryptsetup: lvm is not available xubuntu 14.04
[18:16] <z0id> then I changed my mind and ran apt-get remove --purge kate
[18:16] <z0id> and autoremove
[18:16] <tengopreguntas> histo: well, cgroups are not setting any limit. i know some debian based distros have problem with the limit in the memory usage, but i never read anything realated to cpu usage
[18:16] <Leeuwenhok> What major features await in 14.04, which wren't in 1
[18:16] <z0id> and it uninstalled about 2 packages
[18:16] <Leeuwenhok> 13.10
[18:16] <z0id> how do I uninstall the rest?
[18:16] <daftykins> Leeuwenhok: there are release notes on the website for these such questions.
[18:17] <histo> Leeuwenhok: check out the release notes
[18:17] <serkan> q
[18:17] <histo> z0id: sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:17] <daftykins> z0id: yes, that's a KDE program so it will bring a lot of cruft with it
[18:17] <z0id> did that, 2 packages uninstalled
[18:17] <Leeuwenhok> I knew you'd say that. Sorry, but haven't got time for that. I needed a summary. 2 or 3 would be enough to get me going.
[18:18] <daftykins> Leeuwenhok: sorry but this channel is not about that much direct handholding, the information is online for a reason
[18:18] <mxO_> Any thoughts on the hibernation?
[18:18] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: not much, really.. nothing drastic.. just improvements you are welcome to experience first hand
[18:18] <Leeuwenhok> @daftykins That's fine by me.
[18:18] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: the boot time, and performance, and all other details like that can really be hardware case specific
[18:18] <daftykins> mxO_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/181390/what-is-the-command-for-sleep-hibernate
[18:18] <tengopreguntas> histo: any luck?
[18:18] <Xtrivity> Hi guys, I'm not sure what channel I could get an answer, but I have an azure ubuntu server that I just setup and I am trying to upload files from my desktop to the ubuntu using SFTP / SSH. The files are being blocked from being uploaded. Any ideas as to how to solve this?
[18:18] <histo> z0id: you can take a look at /var/log/apt/history.log  but most likely the others are dependancies of other things that were already installed
[18:18] <Leeuwenhok> @holstein Thanks. Now was that that difficult.
[18:19] <histo> tengopreguntas: What is your problem with cgroups?
[18:19] <pavlos> mxO_, I dont know xmonad ... if there is a way to save that state (all windows).
[18:19] <tengopreguntas> histo: well, cgroups are not setting any limit. i know some debian based distros have problem with the limit in the memory usage, but i never read anything realated to cpu usage
[18:19] <mxO_> pavlos: it shouldnt matter if I hibernate?
[18:19] <daftykins> Xtrivity: technically amazon setups aren't really covered here, but what OS are you on and what are you using to try to upload?
[18:19] <histo> tengopreguntas: I'm not on a debian based distro so I wouldn't be a valid test. Perhaps try someone else or in #debian
[18:19] <daftykins> Xtrivity: meh, Microsoft even :)
[18:19] <histo> tengopreguntas: or fire up a vm
[18:19] <pavlos> mxO_,  you cannot run 2 OS at the same time (unless you're using VM's
[18:20] <Xtrivity> daftykins,  using azure, not amazon, but I have ubuntu server 14.04 . SSH works, just file transfer issues.
[18:20] <tengopreguntas> histo: ubuntu is a debian derivative, i am on ubuntu aswell
[18:20] <histo> tengopreguntas: I'm not
[18:20] <daftykins> Xtrivity: ok and the answers to the questions i asked?
[18:20] <mxO_> pavlos: That's what I'm not trying to do, I just wanna put the linux a sleep and boot from the other SSD to windows
[18:20] <tengopreguntas> histo: oops.
[18:20] <Xtrivity> daftykins, ubuntu server 14.04?
[18:20] <Xtrivity> unless I missed something?
[18:20] <pavlos> mxO, if linux goes to sleep, it is still running.
[18:20] <histo> mxO: you can't put it to sleep and boot windows. You ahve to reboot
[18:21] <Xtrivity> oh, trying to upload .php files.
[18:21] <z0id> histo: indeed, there's the list of packages there, but they're not in a format that I can copy as arguments to apt-get remove
[18:21] <daftykins> Xtrivity: host OS... as in what are you running right now and what are you USING to upload said files to said ubuntu server? :)
[18:21] <histo> z0id: you could parse it to just grab the package names
[18:21] <Xtrivity> I'm using CrossFTP client to try to upload .php files to my apache server.
[18:21] <z0id> i don't know how to do that :D
[18:22] <tengopreguntas> does anybody knows what log files to check to see what's going on wrong with cgroups?
[18:22] <daftykins> Xtrivity: ok so perhaps you're just tripping up at permissions, try putting one in /home/username/ and see if it goes over fine
[18:22] <Xtrivity> Will do, one sec.
[18:22] <holstein> Xtrivity: they ^ you can move them via ssh after they transfer
[18:22] <Xtrivity> daftykins, that worked. How can I enable permissions on my http/ folder?
[18:23] <holstein> Xtrivity: dont
[18:23] <histo> z0id: pastebin the list
[18:23] <holstein> Xtrivity: transfer, then move..
[18:23] <Xtrivity> holstein, always?
[18:23] <Xtrivity> That's a pain in the ass.
[18:23] <daftykins> Xtrivity: it should be /var/www/html/ for apache with 14.04... it can be resolved but as holstein recommends it doesn't tend to be best practice
[18:23] <holstein> Xtrivity: thats what i suggest.. otherwise, you are making the permissions "weaker" in the online area
[18:24] <PreSSion>  i see one of the ubuntu phone have got an intel atom processor, so that phone will be full convergence and play games as metro right? with xmir ofc
[18:24] <Xtrivity> Interesting. Valid point.
[18:24] <daftykins> !touch | PreSSion
[18:24] <daftykins> PreSSion: sorry but this channel is not for random discussion
[18:24] <PreSSion> sorry and thanks
[18:24] <histo> z0id: apt-get autoremove kate
[18:24] <daftykins> no problem
[18:24] <PreSSion> for the link i mean
[18:24] <Xtrivity> is there a way to make a shortcut folder so I can simply drag and drop those files to the right dir (sorry not to familiar with *nix)
[18:25] <daftykins> Xtrivity: would i be right in guessing this is your first foray into ubuntu web admin?
[18:25] <daftykins> or Linux web admin in general
[18:25] <barnex> Hello, could someone guide me through reinstalling video drivers in a most idiot-proof way? I updated them and everything stopped working (including the non-graphical terminal, I only have ssh access).
[18:25] <daftykins> barnex: what did you install?
[18:25] <barnex> So I'm looking for some way to remove everything that can be causing trouble related to graphics and start fresh
[18:26] <histo> Xtrivity: add your user to the www-data group or whomever owns your http directory
[18:26] <z0id> histo: http://pastebin.com/ZjX0yzLN
[18:26] <Xtrivity> daftykins,  I've definitely had my share in CentOS, but i tend to visit in for about a few weeks once every 1.5 years and then forget everything. Regardless, I can't move files to: /var/www/html (says permission denied) yet 755 is the chmod on there?
[18:26] <histo> z0id: the autoremove kate command should remove all the dependencies
[18:26] <barnex> daftykins: hard to say really, was trying to install some other thing, and accidentally updated nvidia, I'll paste a list of all my current packages matching nvidia in a moment.
[18:26] <mxO> histo & pavlos hibernated it and booted to windows, thanks for help though
[18:26] <mxO> Cya!
[18:26] <holstein> z0id: i would have tried "sudo apt-get autoremove kate" as histo is suggesting..
[18:26] <daftykins> Xtrivity: the folder owner is www-data for apache, you need as histo just said, to add your user to the www-data group then modify /var/www/html's group ownership to add write permissions then you'll be good to go.
[18:27] <z0id> just tried it, still 2 packages removed
[18:27] <Xtrivity> daftykins, not sure what I would google to set that properly, any wan you could toss me the command line for that?/
[18:27] <daftykins> barnex: yep "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" would be handy, also could you pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what's going wrong?
[18:27] <daftykins> Xtrivity: sure one sec
[18:28] <holstein> z0id: you can manually remove what you like.. if "sudo apt-get autoremove" is not offering to autoremove, im not sure what is going on with your system.. does "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" complete without error? do you just need to update/refresh?
[18:29] <barnex> daftykins: here's the package list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7761382/
[18:29] <barnex> and I'd have to figure out how to pastebin something that long over ssh for xorg.log or maybe guess what's interesting.
[18:30] <barnex> daftykins:  here's the xorg log http://paste.ubuntu.com/7761392/
[18:30] <daftykins> barnex: since you have SSH access you can "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" to get a link to share the file with us
[18:30] <daftykins> ah ok
[18:31] <barnex> yeah, turns out I already had that package, thanks :-)
[18:31] <barnex> daftykins: I was trying to fix it for a while myself and I'm not sure if it's not worse now, so some kind of 'nuke and start over approach' probably would work best.
[18:32] <barnex> daftykins: at one point I tried installing drivers from nvidia .run script.
[18:32] <barnex> I'll check if they provide a way to uninstall
[18:32] <z0id> holstein: i just ran update and dist-upgrade successfully
[18:32] <daftykins> barnex: ah, so there may be a messy state. yes try tab completing "nvidia-"
[18:32] <z0id> i think i'll try removing them manually
[18:32] <z0id> thanks
[18:33] <barnex> there's nvidia-uninstall, thanks.
[18:33] <daftykins> barnex: after that i'd purge all "nvidia* " to be sure - i also find that "libkwinnvidiahack4" iffy - and your package status of "nvidia-current" as rc which i don't know the meaning off off-hand
[18:37] <barnex> daftykins: rc seems to mean removed AND config files installed
[18:37] <daftykins> ah ok
[18:38] <daftykins> barnex: uninstall go ok?
[18:38] <barnex> seems so, the nvidia script exited without whining, and I have no nvidia packages installed
[18:38] <barnex> should I try to just install with some tutorial now, or is there something else I should do before?
[18:39] <ilovelinux> hello
[18:39] <ilovelinux> hi maximski
[18:40] <ilovelinux> HELLO!
[18:40] <ilovelinux> hello Timmy
[18:41] <ilovelinux> hi biella
[18:41] <barnex> daftykins: sorry, forgot to hl on my previous two messages, they are some ten lines above. I might have a mess with my kernel headers, remember having to play with them previously, when problems with graphics occured...
[18:41] <ilovelinux> hello
[18:42] <barnex> daftykins: should I remove all packages with linux headers that are different version than my kernel?
[18:42] <daftykins> barnex: well what's your card?
[18:42] <barnex> NVIDIA Corporation GK110 [GeForce GTX 780]
[18:42] <daftykins> barnex: i'd stick to PPA provided nvidia if you don't necessarily need bleeding edge support or features
[18:43] <barnex> daftykins: uhm, that's reffering to my question about headers? PPA provided package won't need them?
[18:43] <Timmy> ilovelinux: hello iloveyou
[18:44] <ilovelinux> hello timmy
[18:44] <Timmy> hello ilovelinux
[18:44] <daftykins> barnex: that was a more general comment. is the intention to play games?
[18:44] <Timmy> is this ilovelinux a hello machine?
[18:44] <ilovelinux> Yes i'm
[18:45] <barnex> daftykins: well, I think I had the version from ubuntu/ppa before and performance was fine for what I play
[18:45] <barnex> so there's no need for bleeding edge.
[18:45] <ilovelinux> hello pranjal
[18:45] <Pici> ilovelinux: can you please stop? This channel is already busy enough without that noise.
[18:45] <ilovelinux> ok ok
[18:45] <ilovelinux> I'm translate by Google Translate
[18:46] <daftykins> barnex: i'd just put nvidia-current back on then and reboot/restart/start lightdm
[18:49] <saleem> i wonder why gtk themes has issue with openbox , did fresh install of 14.04 with openbox and synaptic crashes once again with error (synaptic:2817): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_hide: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed , and im clueless how to fix it
[18:50] <barnex> daftykins: uhm, there was unsettling warning while installing he nvidia-current package (last line of install log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7761471/ )
[18:50] <holstein> saleem: i would try lxde, and see if openbox there deals with it, and if so, how
[18:50] <ilovelinux> Bye Bye
[18:50] <daftykins> barnex: oh hang on, you're running an EOL ubuntu (12.10)
[18:50] <barnex> yeah.
[18:51] <barnex> but lightdm started
[18:51] <daftykins> any particular reason for that? :)
[18:51] <barnex> laziness :<
[18:51] <saleem> holstein, i being openbox fan on arch wanted to do the same on ubuntu but it seems LXDE would be the next option if openbox cant settle with gtk themes
[18:51] <barnex> I have everything working and need that system to earn money :-)
[18:51] <barnex> well, I had
[18:51] <barnex> till yesterday
[18:52] <daftykins> hmm, well just be aware that we can no longer assist in here with that
[18:52] <barnex> anyway, I'm a bit afraid to mess with it.
[18:52] <daftykins> upgrade to an LTS such as 12.04 or 14.04
[18:52] <holstein> barnex: updates are not working..
[18:52] <daftykins> barnex: also i see you'd added the xorg-edgers PPA so that's a non-standard element to your setup too
[18:52] <holstein> barnex: you should have backups regardless.. and running an EOL operating system has its own problems..
[18:54] <histo> barnex: you won't be able to install any updates or new packages if it's EOL the repos are gone. You will have to upgrade follow the directions from ubottu for upgrading from eol
[18:54] <histo> !eol | barnex
[18:54] <barnex> :-)
[18:54] <barnex> yeah, I have backups, I'm just afraid of downtime.
[18:54] <barnex> I should really upgrade.
[18:55] <saleem> or may be i should try fluxbox
[18:55] <barnex> daftykins: thank you a lot, sorry for trapping you into supporting old release. Anyway, it seems to work for now.
[18:55] <barnex> So thank you.
[18:55] <daftykins> lol, just because it works doesn't mean anything
[18:55] <daftykins> get yourself backed up and sort that thing out ASAP
[18:55] <holstein> saleem: i would try something like lubuntu/lxde live, and see how they are dealing with the issue you are having..
[18:56] <saleem> holstein, and that would be downloading lubuntu iso
[18:56] <saleem> im doing it now
[18:56] <barnex> daftykins: means a lot to me, but you are obviously right that I should upgrade as soon as possible.
[18:56] <holstein> saleem: its just a suggestion, friend. im not trying to talk you into *anything*.. just looking at something using openbox that you can test that gtk theme in..
[18:57] <barnex> BTW, is raid+luks+lvm setup supported in current installers?
[18:57] <barnex> or well, at least well documented and possible?
[18:57] <holstein> !lvm
[18:57] <matiasmm_> Hey, I'm having this problem, when I login to ubuntu (with GDM) I get an empty screen with my cursor only, I do can login in failsmode. What can I do to figure out what the problem is?
[18:58] <subz3r0> barnex: the actual installer is a mess
[18:58] <subz3r0> use the netinstaller
[18:58] <saleem> holstein, i understand , this issue with gtk on openbox has bugged my for many days now so i guess its high time to move to lxde and test how that works with gtk themes issue
[18:58] <subz3r0> if the server version uses the same installer... oO
[18:58] <subz3r0> the desktop installer leads me to install debian
[18:58] <barnex> subz3r0: ok, thanks for the tip.
[18:58] <daftykins> subz3r0: right, in your personal opinion
[18:59] <holstein> subz3r0: the desktop installer is not addressing those needs..
[18:59] <holstein> subz3r0: its not a "mess" for it to not provide the functionality..
[18:59] <daftykins> best to caveat such comments lest you be speaking FUD
[18:59] <subz3r0> holstein: well, the alternate cd did tje job befure
[18:59] <holstein> subz3r0: sure.. that installer provides different functionality..
[18:59] <subz3r0> holstein: yeah, just a shame. since ubuntu was able to handle it before
[19:00] <holstein> subz3r0: i could say "the alternate is a mess, because i cant run the live desktop from it". but, thats not true, its just not a goal or function of the iso
[19:01] <barnex> anyway, I gather that for my needs netinstaller would be better
[19:01] <barnex> so thanks again.
[19:01] <holstein> !mini | barnex
[19:01] <subz3r0> barnex: maybe the server installer has those options. im not sure, just used the desktop installer
[19:04] <histo> subz3r0: it should not much different from the net installer
[19:04] <histo> subz3r0: just has the packages there already.
[19:04] <subz3r0> ahh, oki
[19:04] <hackal> Hello, I just installed 14.04 desktop. I am beginner with this os. Do you have any suggestions on how could I improve my skills with Ubuntu? Note that I don't have Internet connection on it.
[19:04] <subz3r0> histo: so it should be easy to handle multiboot systems like the alernate cds were able to
[19:05] <subz3r0> create lvm within a luks parition etc...
[19:05] <subz3r0> partition
[19:05] <barnex> hackal: what kind of skills are you looking to improve? if it's general linux knowledge, you can just open terminal and explore
[19:06] <daftykins> !documentation | hackal
[19:06] <barnex> hackal: the useful commands include man (manual for commands) and apropos (searches the manuals for keywords)
[19:06] <subz3r0> hackal: open a terminal. and then type "apropos keyword" like apropos ssl
[19:06] <histo> or just man -k
[19:06] <jack> why is "blubuntu-look" conflicting with so many things?
[19:07] <histo> hackal: look for a website on learning the command line interface. and check out    man intro   in a terminal
[19:07] <subz3r0> then use the man pages like man openssl
[19:07] <hackal> barnex OK thanks. Plus is VIM pre installed on 14.04
[19:07] <subz3r0> hackal: ohh u want the hard way :D
[19:07] <subz3r0> normaly no beginners ask for vi/vim :P
[19:07] <subz3r0> try "nano"
[19:08] <barnex> hard way is 'ed' :P
[19:08] <VA6DAH> http://i.imgur.com/AZeTQ3C.jpg << Ubuntu desktop
[19:08] <histo> hackal: vim-tutor if you aren't familiar with it
[19:08] <subz3r0> and use this "apropos" often then use the man pages of the themes
[19:08] <subz3r0> VA6DAH: look ugly
[19:08] <subz3r0> VA6DAH: looks ugly
[19:08] <histo> VA6DAH: ok?
[19:09] <thurstylark> Whenever I do sudo I get "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory" Running ubuntu 14.04
[19:09] <VA6DAH> Just a desktop share, and thanks subz3r0.
[19:09] <barnex> hackal: can't answer question about vim breing installed by default, sorry, but try typing 'vim' in terminal
[19:09] <subz3r0> VA6DAH: np :)
[19:09] <subz3r0> im just in love with my gnome shell and/or xfce4
[19:09] <subz3r0> and ofc my terminal :P
[19:10] <hackal> Is there any built in resource to learn about permissions? Manpages?
[19:10] <trism> thurstylark: bug 1257186
[19:11] <thurstylark> thanks, trism
[19:11] <jack> nano is better for noobs
[19:11] <jack> much better
[19:11] <VA6DAH> I run the MATE desktop on my thinkpad and actually starting to prefer it to unity.
[19:11] <VA6DAH> I second Jack, to this day I still don't fully understand vim...
[19:11] <WayKool99> question about Perms, you create a folder, under Group is your name (default). what happens if you select 'adm' or 'sudo'?
[19:12] <hackal> I already used Vim. I can search edit and save and quit
[19:12] <Pici> WayKool99: then the group permissions will apply for users in that group.
[19:12] <subz3r0> hackal: congratz, you can do more as i do :P
[19:13] <subz3r0> WayKool99: ?
[19:13] <subz3r0> you mean when you belong to those grps?
[19:13] <WayKool99> Pic, would you than create them as 'users'?
[19:13] <hackal> VIM is not installed by default
[19:14] <subz3r0> WayKool99: it depends on the "others"
[19:14] <subz3r0> if others have no rights, then adm has no rights as well, same with sudo
[19:15] <WayKool99> hmm. interesting. i'll Google it.
[19:15] <subz3r0> sudo -s would help then... but well...
[19:15] <WayKool99> ahh i understand
[19:15] <hackal> Do you think man or apropos is better to learn?
[19:15] <subz3r0> hackal: apropos first, then man
[19:15] <subz3r0> apropos gives u just interesting topics when u search with it
[19:15] <subz3r0> just try it
[19:16] <subz3r0> WayKool99: check what those rights means. rwxrwxrwx
[19:16] <subz3r0> user - grp - others
[19:16] <subz3r0> you may want to read the manpage of chown and chmod as well
[19:16] <WayKool99> ok. will do. Thank you.
[19:16] <Pici> !permissions | WayKool99
[19:17] <subz3r0> ahh thanks pici
[19:17] <vpsdude> what ever happened to thumbs
[19:17] <subz3r0> pici, are suid etc mentioned there, too?
[19:17] <hackal> Is there a way to rebind button? I have non functioning C button on laptop
[19:17] <Pici> subz3r0: Doesn't look like it.
[19:17] <subz3r0> hackal: yes
[19:17] <subz3r0> okay
[19:18] <jackarius86> hi, can anyone tell me how to automate the .Xresources file so that i dont have to write  xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources every time i reboot?
[19:18] <subz3r0> WayKool99: you may want to get to know what a suid bit is as well
[19:18] <subz3r0> :)
[19:18] <subz3r0> and there are some other permissions, too
[19:18] <subz3r0> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions#Traditional_Unix_permissions
[19:18] <WayKool99> never heard of suid.
[19:19] <subz3r0> WayKool99: be very carefull with it!
[19:19] <amarcolino> Hi, does anyone know how to organise their spotify playlist manually? Spotify has no option to export and import current playlits, to make things difficult I can't seem to find the text file that handles playlists.
[19:19] <subz3r0> since for some thing you want only root can handle it :)
[19:19] <subz3r0> things
[19:19] <bprompt> !xkeycaps | hackal
[19:20] <WayKool99> OK sub. Thank you. getting more and more into Linux command line.
[19:20] <bprompt> hackal:    anyhow,, check the repository, see if  "xkeycaps"   may do
[19:21] <jackarius86> hi, can anyone tell me how to automate the .Xresources file so that i dont have to write  xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources every time i reboot?
[19:21] <hackal> Unfortunately I don't have Internet connection
[19:22] <bprompt> hackal:     http://askubuntu.com/questions/296155/how-can-i-remap-keyboard-keys
[19:22] <jack> hackal, so how can you be here?
[19:22] <bprompt> heheh
[19:24] <hackal> I am on phone with slow connection
[19:25] <WayKool99> downloaded System Monitor like 10.04 had.  Problem, when i make settings changes, then don't stick. a Re-open brings back the defaults.?
[19:26] <bprompt> WayKool99:    you mean "system load indicator"?
[19:28] <WayKool99> nope. the System Monitor i think Sun Microsystems or Red Hat offered in standard ubuntu install since v7.10
[19:28] <kumarvaibhav> hi
[19:28] <bprompt> hmm
[19:29] <WayKool99> ah... it was Sun Microsystems. found under About
[19:30] <bprompt> WayKool99:    I had an issue with "system load indicator" doing the same thing.... the issue was that it wasn't saving because it uses the new "dconf" structure, as opposed to old gnome registry tree
[19:31] <WayKool99> i love Red Hat's CUPS printer software, but its missing a "Spooling" buffer. my Cisco/Dlink print server keeps crashing.
[19:32] <bprompt> WayKool99:     anyhow... any app using the dconf structure for its savings under ~/.config   may run on that....  in my case, simply installing dconf-tools allowed it
[19:33] <Guest40779> hello any one close
[19:33] <WayKool99> bprompt, i'll try installing it. again, thank you for that.
[19:33] <sixpindin> Iptraff shows two lwan cards, with two different hw-addresses; I only have one wlan interface. Ideas? Links?
[19:35] <WayKool99> built-in internal Intel and your own ethernet card?
[19:36] <Smashcat> Hi, is there an alternative to vsftpd that prevents listing the root directory for chrooted users? Seems to be a bug in the version that's in apt at the moment
[19:36] <ikonia> it's not a bug
[19:36] <ikonia> you don't list the root directory if you've properly chrooted
[19:36] <ikonia> your config must be broken
[19:37] <Smashcat> ikonia: It is chrooted. The user starts in the root directory though (they cannot go into /etc for instance, but can see it)
[19:37] <A_Zman705> hi all anyone can help with Nvidia problem
[19:37] <ikonia> Smashcat: then your config is not setup
[19:37] <ikonia> Smashcat: the user should not start in root if it's chrooted correctly
[19:38] <Smashcat> ikonia: Yes, that's what you would assume.
[19:38] <ikonia> Smashcat: that's what happens
[19:38] <sixpindin> @WayKool99: I don't think so, one seems to have alot of traffic comming in and the other going out
[19:38] <OerHeks> A_Zman705, your mx440 will do 2d fine, no more 3d support AFAIK
[19:38] <Smashcat> ikonia: Not here. I know there was a bug in a previous version, so it's not impossible for it to occur.
[19:39] <ikonia> Smashcat: where is the bug report for it
[19:39] <A_Zman705> i need 3d so i need another
[19:39] <WayKool99> wow. are you running both a NIC and Wifi adapter by chance?
[19:39] <A_Zman705> os or what
[19:39] <Smashcat> ikonia: It was in an article I read regarding permission bugs in vsftpd. I'm not going to trawl google for you though as it's not related to this
[19:40] <ikonia> Smashcat: not interested in an article
[19:40] <ikonia> interested in a bug report
[19:40] <ikonia> a bug report that is confirmed
[19:40] <Smashcat> go find it then.
[19:40] <subz3r0> use proftpd
[19:40] <ikonia> Smashcat: it doesn't exist
[19:40] <ikonia> Smashcat: hence why you can't find it
[19:40] <Smashcat> ikonia: Not interested in arguing with you. You're muted.
[19:40] <Smashcat> subzer0: Thanks!
[19:40] <ikonia> Smashcat: you're looking for a problem that doesn't exist
[19:41] <ikonia> Smashcat: pastebin your config
[19:42] <TLF> Hello
[19:42] <sixpindin> No other wifi hardware...
[19:42] <TLF> I'm using the default MESA driver in Ubunu 14.04 (Mesa 10.1) and trying to run WebGL in my browsers (chromium and firefox) but I'm unable to activate it, although it seems I have Hardware Acceleration on Xorg, any clues I can try? Thanks
[19:45] <Smashcat> subz3r0: Cheers, proftpd is working fine :) Thank god for choice - hehe1
[19:45] <subz3r0> you're welcome
[19:50] <Leeuwenhok> Ubuntu was upgrading, I closed the laptop lid. Now when I opened the lid, it shows a black screen. When I press a key or move the pointer, the screen blinks and shows the wallpaper for a sec. The HDD led is blinking, showing upgrade is still processing. How do I get to the desktop?
[19:51] <Smashcat> This was the bug report I was referencing in case that argumentative guy who called me a liar is still around: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/1219857
[19:51] <Leeuwenhok> ...
[19:52] <jhutchins> Leeuwenhok: Can you connect via ssh?
[19:52] <Leeuwenhok> I'm quite positive that I had the Power Options set "not" to go to standby on closing the lid.
[19:53] <Leeuwenhok> What's that?
[19:53] <jhutchins> Leeuwenhok: What about ctrl-alt-F1?
[19:53] <Leeuwenhok> It just showed the login screen.
[19:54] <Leeuwenhok> Yeah, a little patience got me into the desktop.
[19:54] <jhutchins> Leeuwenhok: RIght.
[19:55] <Leeuwenhok> The terminal is still at "Setting up python-apt".
[19:55] <jhutchins> Lee you can log in, you can monitor whether the upgrade is still running, when it stalls out waiting for input you can restart X and clean up anything that's still running, then repair.
[19:55] <Leeuwenhok> How long does the upgrade process usually take? It's been going on for about 2 hours.
[19:55] <Leeuwenhok> It's seems to be running fine.
[19:56] <jhutchins> Leeuwenhok: Hard to predict without knowing your network speed, which server you hit, how heavy the load on that server is today, other stuff.
[19:56] <Leeuwenhok> And those 2 hours exclude the download time.
[19:56] <jhutchins> Leeuwenhok: My last ubuntu netinstall took less than ten minutes.  I've had dist-upgrades take over an hour.
[19:56] <goganchic> Leeuwenhok why do you thins its running fine?
[19:58] <Leeuwenhok> Sorry, Mozilla crashed. Did someone say anything?
[20:01] <Leeuwenhok> The "setting up" speed is about a file per sec. If there were 1666 files, it shouldn't have taken 2 hours...
[20:02] <cyanoroma> Someone managed to install Aircrack-ng on Ubuntu 14.04?
[20:02] <Monotoko> odd question... is it possible to have a USB connection over a network?
[20:03] <Leeuwenhok> Monotoko I've had success connecting USB to a router and accessing it from a computer.
[20:04] <Zeke> hello
[20:04] <Zeke> This is new.
[20:05] <Zeke> I need help finding a great intro to using the terminal in 14.04
[20:05] <Zeke> I need help finding a great intro to using the terminal in 14.04
[20:05] <remuxa> !terminal
[20:06] <Zeke> Well how could I tell if I am being pinged?
[20:06] <Zeke> by someone on my DNS
[20:07] <Magelo> Hey all, had a ubuntu 14.04 related question about editting the xorg.conf file to add in the Option Coolbits 5 line
[20:08] <Magelo> How can I go about doing that editting the file? When I try to use gedit under sudo the GTK screams at me lol
[20:08] <holstein> i use gksudo gedit .. or sudo nano
[20:09] <Smashcat> Magelo: sudo vi (you'll be screaming yourself :) )
[20:09]  * Stinky_Feet whispers: sudo vi
[20:09] <Zeke> I am trying to introduce myself to editing
[20:09] <Zeke> and developing
[20:09] <Zeke> any places to start learning
[20:09] <Magelo> Ok, is there any proper way of editting the file so that I don't mess up. Can I just hit enter at the end of the previous line and add in the code
[20:09] <sixpindin> re: iptraf => It was the router on the network. I didn't realise iptraf caught 'all' traffic on the network.
[20:09] <Smashcat> Zeke: Developing in what language? Google is the best bet.
[20:09] <nirjhor> hi
[20:10] <Zeke> Yes chromium
[20:10] <holstein> Magelo: backup .. know how to revert
[20:10] <cyanoroma> Someone managed to install Aircrack-ng on Ubuntu 04.14 from source code?
[20:10] <nirjhor> trying to compile corebird
[20:10] <Monotoko> Zeke: tcpdump -nnvXSs 0 -c2 icmp
[20:10] <Zeke> Source code
[20:10] <nirjhor> facing this error : http://pastie.org/9365178#
[20:10] <Monotoko> will tell you when you're being "pinged"
[20:10] <Monotoko> as well as a lot of other information
[20:11] <nirjhor> any help ?
[20:11] <Zeke> Well Its like I own a car but I just cant drive yer
[20:11] <Zeke> yet
[20:11] <holstein> nirjhor: No package 'gstreamer-video-1.0' found
[20:11] <A_Zman705> hanlist
[20:11] <Zeke> so...... advance 101 intro
[20:12] <holstein> nirjhor: theres a list that i would work through there..
[20:12] <nirjhor> holstein, i tried installing them, none of them are in the repo. besides i compiled gtk+ - 0.12 by hand, it still doesn't recognize it
[20:13] <Stinky_Feet> Magelo: Open a terminal, sudo cp -ar /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[20:13] <Stinky_Feet> Then you can always reverse your changes even if you only have terminal access....
[20:13] <holstein> nirjhor: sure, they may be differnt names, but, even if they ar enot in the repos, you'll need to meet the requriments
[20:13] <kogimus> hm
[20:13] <kogimus> is there a good command line XMPP client for ubuntu?
[20:14] <funtable> Zeke, I bought a book : Ubuntu Linux Toolbox: 1000+ Commands for Power Users [eBook Kindle] . at amazon. very good to start. talks about use and admin ubuntu linux.
[20:14] <Zeke> OK
[20:14] <nirjhor> holstein, so i go and find each one of them and compile ?
[20:15] <Zeke> I will check it out
[20:15] <Zeke> thanks
[20:15] <holstein> nirjhor: you meet the requirements for the code
[20:16] <nirjhor> holstein, got it
[20:16] <nirjhor> holstein, thanks :)
[20:17] <Zeke> UTF-8
[20:18] <Zeke> I wanna learn about this....
[20:18] <aj_> can you
[20:18] <Zeke> Hopefully
[20:18] <holstein> Zeke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8
[20:19] <holstein> !bash
[20:19] <aj_> im gonna checkin to hospital trying to figure it out
[20:19] <Zeke> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man1/funtable.1.html
[20:19] <holstein> Zeke: there are many proramming channels..
[20:19] <Zeke> thx for the links
[20:19] <kogimus> exit
[20:19] <kogimus> quit
[20:20] <kogimus> lsexit
[20:20] <kogimus> ls
[20:20] <kogimus> quit
[20:20] <Zeke> I know!
[20:20] <aj_> since you so smart, how you install drivers lol
[20:20] <Zeke> I feel overwhelmed
[20:21] <funtable> kogimus, use "/" before command
[20:21] <aj_> yeah i agree it very overwhelming
[20:21] <holstein> aj_: typically, the kernel has all the drivers it needs.. if some hardware is not supporting linux out of the box, it can be challenging.. what drivers are you referencing?
[20:22] <aj_> Nvidia
[20:22] <Zeke> sudo apt-get install gnome
[20:22] <aj_> sucks for linux
[20:22] <holstein> aj_: there are open drivers for nvidia products in the kernel.. but, there are also proprietary drivers available.. what have you tried?
[20:22] <Beldar> Zeke, Not a correct command what are you referencing?
[20:23] <aj_> i d/l pro drivers all flipp computer wont install or use them, do they smoke crack
[20:23] <Smashcat> aj_: Nvidia have always had really good drivers for Linux. Much better than the AMD crap
[20:23] <Beldar> aj_, This is a family channel keep it clean.
[20:23] <aj_> ok sorry fustrated
[20:24] <Guest36048> i need help with apt cacheing MMAP. whats that look like in file were is that?
[20:24] <holstein> aj_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidiais what i refer to.. what have you tried? the open ones dont work for you? are you trying to run games? or just a desktop? ubuntu? xubuntu?
[20:24] <aj_> been to nvidia, got driver they said would work in 32 bit linux system, which im running
[20:24] <holstein> aj_: i understand you are frustrated, but nvidia never promised you linux support for your product.. you can typically find a comfortable compromise. what you have you tried?
[20:24] <Zeke> unix is like the universe man
[20:24] <Zeke> possibly ever expanding
[20:24] <Zeke> lol
[20:25] <aj_> installed it as they claim it would work, and system cant seem to even acknowledge they even exisit
[20:25] <Beldar> !ot > Zeke
[20:25] <holstein> aj_: i suggest trying the repo version of the nvidia driver.. have you tried it?
[20:26] <aj_> im suck using a nouveau driver that bologne to say it cleanly
[20:26] <aj_> whats a repo version
[20:26] <holstein> aj_: have you tried the proprietary nvidia driver from the default repos? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:26] <holstein> !repository
[20:26] <Willow> hooolaaa
[20:27] <Zeke> sudo apt-get install dont be a butthole bot boy
[20:27] <holstein> Zeke: please dont do that here
[20:27] <aj_> i got no clue what i tried, ive tried alot using google, and quite a few people gave me some help
[20:28] <holstein> Zeke: use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. thanks
[20:28] <aj_> what i have done i have no clue other then it never works
[20:28] <holstein> aj_: try specifically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:28] <VioByte> How would I go about allowing id lookup or proftpd user auth lookup to allow dots in usernames returned by ldap?
[20:28] <holstein> aj_: are you using ubuntu? are you tring to game? are you able to read my questions?
[20:28] <aj_> display i would say is operating like windows does when it has no clue what to use
[20:28] <WineCraft> anyone able to help me get wine installs to second hard drive rather than default?
[20:29] <aj_> i had ubuntu 14.04 but its not good for me as i only have 1 GB of ram
[20:29] <aj_> so i downgraded to lubuntu
[20:29] <holstein> WineCraft: move it wherever you like, and symlink.. that should work
[20:29] <bekks> aj_: thats no downgrade, thats just another desktop environment, actually.
[20:29] <aj_> found lubuntu was less of a mem hog then ubuntu
[20:30] <WineCraft> holstein, I am new to Linux, Im not exactly sure how to do the move/symlink. I tried and it still defaults to home/...
[20:30] <aj_> yea i see this bekks, but unity was driving me nuts, and i force to use ubuntu cuz im too cheap to buy windows
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> aj_  true, lubuntu is for older machines
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> sort of ...
[20:31] <WineCraft> holstein, also, now my 2nd HDD has wineprefix directory in there from something i did, but it still chooses home/... when im trying to install SC2
[20:31] <holstein> WineCraft: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56339/how-to-create-a-soft-or-symbolic-link ..one way is to have a location that is symlinked in ~/.wine
[20:31] <Magelo> Thank you to all those who helped me with my xorg.conf editting. I finally just bit the bullet and made a backup then editted it with nano. Working great now. Just need to figure out how to utilize coolbits now to do a fan curve for my gpu
[20:31] <aj_> now this system is 2.4 GHz with 1GB ram, and 34 GB HD that all i need for is facebookgames and minecraft
[20:32] <holstein> WineCraft: the other would be, ask in the wine community about moving the config location
[20:32] <holstein> aj_: so, the open driver is meeting your needs then?
[20:32] <WineCraft> holstein, is it supposed to automatically recognize the new location? ....and do you mean wine forums or is there an IRC for wine?
[20:32] <holstein> !wine
[20:32] <aj_> i have a few cards i can put in but this nvidia is only one thats 64MD
[20:32] <holstein> aj_: 64mb ?
[20:33] <aj_> oops right
[20:33] <Smashcat> aj_: How old is that computer? Must have been made in the 1980's!
[20:33] <holstein> aj_: the driver support would be my first priority..
[20:33] <Magelo> Wine and Playonlinux have both been giving me hell. Telling me I can't install them unless I uninstall my nvidia lib first.
[20:33] <holstein> aj_: but, since you have older hardware, and are not interested in gaming, you are probably fine "as-is" and can just purchase with linux support in mind in the future
[20:33] <aj_> its a build of spare parts i trying to get together for my son
[20:33] <holstein> aj_: the vesa driver is always an option..
[20:34] <aj_> but i require 3D support for minecraft ( his favorite game)
[20:34] <holstein> aj_: then, you'll need to get the wallet out
[20:34] <aj_> but this card has it
[20:34] <holstein> aj_: get a card with guaranteed linux support.. or at least, one that works. or, keep trying drivers
[20:34] <WineCraft> holstein, this is the message i get when trying to open winecfg...guess i did something with the symlink after all:    wine: cannot open /home/phallix/.wine : Too many levels of symbolic links
[20:35] <holstein> aj_: if that card had it, youd have it
[20:35] <holstein> aj_: you can try many other drivers.. but, you will need to try them, and keep track of what you have tried and how
[20:35] <aj_> i have the driver the problem lies in addtional drivers not finding the installed driver
[20:35] <holstein> aj_: you have a driver from nvidia. you dont know that its intended to work with the latest kernels
[20:36] <holstein> aj_: i suggest the repo version.. and you say, you are not sure if yo uhave tried it.. so, thats where i would go
[20:36] <aj_> ok how do i try this repo version
[20:36] <holstein> aj_: typically, if the "additional drivers" gui doesnt find one, one is not easily available..
[20:37] <holstein> aj_: this is the specific documentation for trying the repo version https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:37] <hapos> there's a screenshot at http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop activated when you rollover the image. In this screenshot appears to be a text editor with very colorful syntax highlighting. Could anyone tell me what application that is?
[20:37] <aj_> so i need to down grade to 12 then
[20:37] <holstein> aj_: if it were me, i would literally try all the cards and see if one "just works" out of the box
[20:37] <aj_> others are way older
[20:37] <VioByte>  Anyone know how to get Ubuntu 12.04 to allow id to do lookups to LDAP with a username that contains a dot/period instead of returning "id: user.name: No such user"?
[20:37] <Guest36048> cd /etc/apt cd./apt.conf.d sudo nano 20archive max size 9000gib?
[20:37] <holstein> aj_: if nvidia suggests they support 12.04 (im assuming thats what you mean by 12) then, you do what they say to run their code
[20:38] <aj_> can you still get precise
[20:38] <holstein> !12.04
[20:38] <Magelo> I was surprised when I was able to get my nvidia card running perfect with ubuntu 14.04 lol
[20:38] <aj_> what you do
[20:39] <Magelo> Now just need to figure out a work around for Wine and Playonlinux so they stop telling me to uninstall my nvidia drivers first
[20:39] <holstein> aj_: different cards are support differently.. i literally installed ubuntu on my nvidia hardware and have 3d support with the open driver out of the box.. i didnt do anything extra
[20:40] <holstein> aj_: used to be, in 12.04, i required the proprietary driver.. i was not promised linux support at all, so i am comfortable with any level of linux support from the device
[20:40] <Magelo> aj_: I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 from a usb thumb drive and went to the additional drivers tab and installed the 331.30 drivers. Didn't need to use any other repositories
[20:40] <aj_> well i gonna try this 12.04 and cant be no worst then what im am now, and ubuntu installs like lightning
[20:41] <holstein> aj_: thats the repo version im talking about you trying.. the one that is working for Magelo . but, its specific to your hardware.. and ymmv
[20:41] <VioByte> My Nvidia 8800 works perfectly with 12.04 right out of the box
[20:41] <holstein> aj_: i typically try all lts releases and all drivers with older hardware like that
[20:41] <Magelo> I'm using Nvidia Geforce 660ti
[20:41] <aj_> mine 440 MX
[20:42] <aj_> mine real old skool
[20:42] <Guest36048> sudo apt-cache updateE: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf)E: Error occurred while processing libtorque2-dev (NewVersion1)E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/http.kali.org_kali_dists_kali_main_binary-i386_Packages W: Unable to munmap.
[20:43] <Magelo> you could always get a newer vid card on newegg.com aj_
[20:43] <Magelo> They go pretty dang cheap, even cheaper then buying windows
[20:44] <jhutchins> Guest36048: Isn't that great when the error message not only tells you what happened, but exactly what to do about it?
[20:44] <VioByte> Anyone know how to get Ubuntu 12.04 to allow support for lookups to LDAP with a username that contains a dot/period instead of returning "id: user.name: No such user" Or is this not doable for some retarded reason?
[20:44] <Magelo> So any ideas on a workaround for the Wine and Playonlinux issues? Trying my darndest to play my old windows games on linux lol
[20:47] <Magelo> nvidia-libopencl1-331 has to be removed before installing WINE
[20:47] <holstein> Magelo: you have ppa's added?
[20:48] <Magelo> I'm a big time newbie with linux. Which ppa? I'm assuming the ones for Wine
[20:48] <holstein> Magelo: any.. any can cause issues like that, potentially
[20:48] <jhutchins> Magelo: winehq maintains a list of what works and what doesn't.
[20:48]  * genii ponders if "sudo apt-cache update" is even valid
[20:49] <Magelo> Yea, I've looked over their list
[20:49] <jhutchins> Magelo: It gets periodically updated when something starts working.
[20:49] <jhutchins> genial: tias
[20:49] <jhutchins> Magelo: There's not much motivation to fix outdated software.
[20:49] <Magelo> I was reading up on that issue I just pasted and someone has a workaround but it seems like a deadly one for someone who doesn't know linux real well
[20:49] <Magelo> outdated?
[20:50] <Magelo> What is outdated that you are referring to? Wine or playonlinux?
[20:50] <jhutchins> Magelo: Which critereon is in the mind of the potential fixer.
[20:50] <jhutchins> Magelo: For a specific game; you mentioned you were trying "old" ones.
[20:50] <Monotoko> playonlinux is WINE?
[20:50] <Monotoko> I always thought
[20:50] <Magelo> front-end for it
[20:51] <Magelo> supposedly makes things easier
[20:51] <Magelo> jhutchins, can I paste a link to the suggested fix?
[20:52] <jhutchins> Magelo: I think your instincts that if you don't understand what it's trying to do it's not a good idea are sound.  Continue learning.
[20:52] <jhutchins> Magelo: You can paste it of course.
[20:52] <Magelo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/449507/nvidia-libopencl1-331-has-to-be-removed-before-installing-wine
[20:52] <Magelo> Well just saying I've learned the hard way already and had to reinstall linux 2 times from scratch lol
[20:52] <jhutchins> Just from the title I'm skeptical...
[20:54] <akurilin> Quick question: when I ssh into a machine that's running slock, it's very easy for me to accidentally kill slock and suddently make the remote box available for anyone to use
[20:54] <Beldar> Magelo, Wine or playon linux have limitations I would use MS for MS games, be aware just that they are available does not mean they will work or are even close to ideal.
[20:54] <ochiottes> hi all
[20:54] <akurilin> is there anything I can do to make this process more secure?
[20:55] <jhutchins> Magelo: Ok, since you are only adding packages, you run little risk of damaging the system.
[20:55] <msamsing> hey there
[20:55] <ochiottes> how do i go at debugging syslog? i just found that it hasn't been running for several weeks
[20:55] <jhutchins> Magelo: You could make a backup snapshot first for extra safety.
[20:55] <XforceVesa> Hi
[20:55] <jhutchins> Magelo: You could also wait a bit longer for 14.04 support to improve.
[20:55] <msamsing> i am having a problem with my touchpad (Lenovo Yoga 11s). It will only work after suspend/resume!?
[20:56] <Magelo> Sounds like the second portion about waiting for more support is a good idea. Until I'm more learned and practiced in linux.
[20:56] <jhutchins> akurilin: Don't disable slock.
[20:56] <msamsing> i would like it to work after boot+login without having to suspend the machine
[20:56] <Magelo> jhutchins: thank you for answering me and looking into that forum chat for me
[20:57] <jhutchins> Magelo: Always willing to help someone who's willing to try and to learn.
[20:58] <VioByte> Anyone know how to get Ubuntu 12.04 to allow support for lookups to LDAP with a username that contains a dot/period instead of returning "id: user.name: No such user" Or is this not doable for some retarded reason?   Normal ldap user look ups work fine except for the dotted ones.
[21:00] <Magelo> jhutchins: I was wondering if there was a really good newbie guide to linux in general but more specifically for ubuntu
[21:00] <Magelo> jhutchins: Could you possibly point me to a useful link on where to start please
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> VioByte  is that a server? if yes: there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:01] <VioByte> Well.. technically it is a server running a look up to another server running ldap but it could also be a client running a lookup to the same ldap server :)
[21:01] <akurilin> jhutchins: it's very likely I could accidentally kill the tmux pane running it or something like that, and I'd never notice that the machine got unlocked on the other end
[21:01] <akurilin> jhutchins: so while ideally that'd be the solution, it's just not realistic
[21:03] <fjalvarez> hello there. I've a problem trying to configure a PPTP vpn in my Ubuntu. I need to pass via VPN to resolve only certain domains but I don't know how to do it
[21:03] <fjalvarez> thanks
[21:04] <fjalvarez> I've read that enabling "Use this connection only for resources on its network" on NetworkManager works but the domain doesn't resolve for me
[21:06] <Ugb3> Hello everybody, Im setting a mediatomb server and I have problem with the <servedir> option, files with space in their name get a 404 when I try to reach them with my browser, I Have no idea how i should translate space in the url, I'v tried "%20" or "\%20" or "\ " and it always get me a 404 and a " ERROR: Failed to stat" in the log, files without spaces works fine tho.
[21:10] <byte> n8
[21:10] <dave_s> I keep getting TLS certificate verification failed: the certificate hasn't got a known issuer from msmtp
[21:11] <dave_s> Not sure how to resolve this. I've tried adding the CA (.pem) to /usr/local/share/ca-certicates/my_ca_file.pem and then running update-ca-certificates, but no luck
[21:11] <dave_s> *ca-certificates
[21:17] <matiasmm> Hey, I'm in Failsmode, I can't start kde or gnome,    after I login, I get an empty screen with my cursor. Can anybody help me?
[21:18] <Beldar> matiasmm, This needs details for help from the channel, E.g. any cause and effect is a good start.
[21:19] <Beldar> !nomodeset | matiasmm try this to see if you get the desktop.
[21:20] <matiasmm> Beldar: Last week I upgraded from ubuntu 12.4 to 14.4.    I've been working with it and today I don't know why I starteed having this. I've been trying different solutions, and Starting to suspect I has to do with the kernel
[21:20] <matiasmm> Beldar: I'll take a look to that link
[21:22] <fjalvarez> hello there. I've a problem trying to configure a PPTP vpn in my Ubuntu. I need to pass via VPN to resolve only certain domains but I don't know how to do it. I've read that enabling "Use this connection only for resources on its network" on NetworkManager works but the domain doesn't resolve for me. Thanks
[21:22] <Beldar> matiasmm, Are you using proprietary graphic drivers straight from the net>
[21:23] <matiasmm> Beldar: I don't think so, I have an ATI radeon and fglrx is the driver installed
[21:23] <Beldar> there was a kernel update yesterday is why I ask matiasmm
[21:24] <matiasmm> Beldar: good point, I'm trying to figure out how to downgrade my kernel, and reading that link about nomodeset you sent
[21:24] <Haydork> Any way to figure out why ppa:ubuntuhandbook1/ppa isn't giving me the new version of Scribus?
[21:27] <Beldar> matiasmm, Try the previous kernels in the boot menu.
[21:28] <Beldar> Haydork, PPA's are not supported here but are you sure it is there, and for the release your running?
[21:29] <Haydork> They posted a month ago saying it was there with instructions repeated all over the Web (scribus 1.4.4 on Trusty). Can't find where anyone else has a problem, so suspecting my setup.
[21:29] <Haydork> Beldar: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/?s=scribus
[21:29] <Beldar> Haydork, Look at the PPA
[21:30] <Haydork> Beldar: maybe that's my question: how do I see what's in a ppa?
[21:30] <Beldar> Haydork, go to it's web page.
[21:31] <Guest70748> durn
[21:31] <Guest70748> starting up new install ubuntu studio
[21:31] <Guest70748> am i in the right place?
[21:32] <Beldar> Haydork, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ppa  pckg lists are here look very closely for what you want and if it is there for the release you have.
[21:34] <bluezone> Submitted by x x on 2014-05-17 05:09 - 1 month, 3 weeks ago. Status: Pending review
[21:34]  * bluezone cries
[21:34] <Haydork> Beldar: it's there.
[21:34] <Beldar> Haydork, What ubuntu release are you running
[21:35] <Haydork> Trusty
[21:35] <poimen> ubuntu all day long
[21:35] <Beldar> Haydork, Have you run a apt-update and apt-upgrade?
[21:36] <innmalint> I've got two harddrives, an ssd (240 GB) and hdd (320 GB). i'm familiar with dual booting but I don't know how I want to divvy the two up between W7 and Ubuntu...any ideas?
[21:36] <adamcunnington> Hi, I'm trying to install 14.04 from a bootable USB. Quite near the start of the process after I selected "Install Ubuntu", I got an error: "BusyBox 1.21.1 ... (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[21:36] <dave_s> Anyone know how to trust the issuer of a TLS/SSL certificate?
[21:37] <Beldar> !md5sum | adamcunnington
[21:37] <adamcunnington> Beldar: are you able to provide a bit of explanation :|?
[21:37] <Beldar> adamcunnington, for what?
[21:37] <adamcunnington> Beldar: are you saying there is an issue with my bootable files?
[21:38] <holstein> adamcunnington: you can use the md5 sum to make sure your iso is "good"..
[21:38] <Beldar> adamcunnington, Could be any number of issues, starting with a confirm of the download is a good start.
[21:38] <matiasmm> Beldar: Booting with an old kernel defenitilly did the trick :)  You are awesome!
[21:38] <Beldar> matiasmm, Cool.
[21:38] <adamcunnington> holstein: does that application just "check it" or does it fix it? if it just checks it, it seems an awful lot of effort compared with just recreating the usb
[21:39] <Beldar> adamcunnington, read the link
[21:40] <Guest32791> whats best fast fast languege programing
[21:40] <Guest32791> ?
[21:41] <Haydork> Beldar: hadn't done ..upgrade, but just ran it and no Scribus
[21:41] <Guest32791> ?
[21:41] <Guest32791> whats best fast fast languege programing
[21:41] <Slart> Guest32791: define best
[21:41]  * bluezone giggles
[21:41] <Beldar> Haydork, Scribus was put in the PPA today I would give it some time, might be a sync issue.
[21:41] <Guest32791> whats best fast fast languege programing
[21:42] <Guest32791> whats fast  languege programing
[21:42] <bluezone> Guest32791, i like COBOL, C, Assembly, and Java!
[21:42] <Slart> Guest32791: handwritten assembler.. spiced with intimate hardware knowledge
[21:42] <holstein> adamcunnington: if you recreate the usb with the same bad iso, the result is the same
[21:42] <Guest32791> Can you speak persian?
[21:42] <holstein> adamcunnington: what do i do? i test the iso, then, the stick.. then, the ram, and hard drives.. then other hardware as needed..
[21:43] <Guest32791> Can you speak persian?
[21:43] <Guest32791> Can you speak persian?
[21:43] <NthDegree> as in Farsi?
[21:43] <Guest32791> eys
[21:43] <Guest32791> yes
[21:43] <Slart> !farsi
[21:43] <NthDegree> better not be Arastoo trolling xD
[21:44] <Guest32791> They are sleeping
[21:45] <Haydork> Beldar: OK, which PPA was that?
[21:45] <Slart> Guest32791: then try again tomorrow... this channel is english only
[21:45] <k1l> Guest32791: aka one. you know the !guidelines. please stop trolling
[21:45] <Guest32791> !guidelines
[21:47] <Beldar> Haydork, Not sure you question, I gave you the link of the one you are using we both checked, you identified you are running 14.04 the scribus you want is there.
[21:47] <Beldar> Haydork, THe date of the scribus load is today, my guess is that it is a sync issue at this point.
[21:48] <Haydork> Beldar: Right. They made a blog post about the update being there June 3, so that's why I was perplexed about it being just today.
[21:49] <Haydork> Beldar: But I will take your advice and wait a bit and see if it shows. Thanks.
[21:49] <Beldar> Haydork, THe ppa has a contact for the maintainer if needed,
[21:51] <Haydork> Beldar: OK, I'll check into that. Never had a prob like this and just figured I was doing something wrong.
[21:51] <Welastevil> hi everyone!
[21:51] <Welastevil>  so...Im doing a virtual rebelion!
[21:51] <Welastevil> the thing is"
[21:51] <Welastevil> lets go to /join macosx
[21:52] <Welastevil> and destroy that people moraly speaking! gagagaga
[21:52] <Welastevil> hahahaha
[21:52] <Welastevil> they are just basterdas! they dont know nothing about programing, computer science..
[21:52] <Welastevil> who is with me?
[21:53] <genii> Welastevil: That would be more like you're inviting people in #ubuntu to troll the #macos channel. Which is not a Good Thing
[21:55] <Haydork> Beldar: Date on that is Y-M-D format, so June 7. So it's in the repository, I can see it, the ppa is in my list, but it keeps telling me 1.4.2 is the latest version :-(
[21:55] <adamcunnington> I've installed windows8.1 and i'm about to install ubuntu 14.04. What partitions should I create? swap (same size as ram for hibernation; 16gb = 16384), root and home? How big should root be?
[21:55] <adamcunnington> 50gb enough?
[21:55] <k1l> Haydork: try "apt-cache policy package" to see which versions are available
[21:56] <k1l> adamcunnington: on an average desktop  it is something between 5 and 15GB usage for / except /home
[21:57] <Haydork> Beldar: Installed and candidate are 1.4.2
[21:57] <holstein> adamcunnington: i would backup, and make room by shrinking partitions.. and just let the installer do it automatically on the free space
[21:57] <adamcunnington> holstein: yea trouble is for some reason, installer didn't detect the presence of windows8.1
[21:58] <Beldar> Haydork, I can't help beyond what I have suggested as it is this is not supported here. Try k1l's suggestion and if needed contact the ppa maintainer.
[21:58] <Haydork> kil:  Installed and candidate are 1.4.2
[21:58] <adamcunnington> should i create primary or logical partitions?
[21:59] <k1l> Haydork: please pastebin the whole output
[21:59] <holstein> !partitioning
[21:59] <k1l> adamcunnington: you can only have 4 primary.
[21:59] <k1l> adamcunnington: but ubuntu doesnt care when put into an extended partition
[21:59] <Beldar> adamcunnington, Can you pastebin the out put of running sudo parted -l
[22:00] <adamcunnington> Beldar: not at this stage of the installation nope
[22:00] <Haydork> kil: http://pastebin.com/Rk9JuyUT
[22:00] <Beldar> adamcunnington, If you see no window then reboot to the desktop and run it.
[22:00] <adamcunnington> Beldar: thanks but i think i'm ok
[22:01] <Beldar> adamcunnington, Okay, however if you see no windows and have no unallocated you are nor set.
[22:01] <Beldar> not*
[22:01] <Haydork> k1l: http://pastebin.com/Rk9JuyUT
[22:01] <k1l> Haydork: that only lists your ubuntu repo. are you sure you have the PPA enabled? and that PPA got a scribus package for 14.04?
[22:02] <suore> Need help i havent turn  off/reboot option :> i can only log out
[22:03] <genii> !info scribus
[22:03] <genii> Hm.
[22:04] <Beldar> !details | suore
[22:05] <suore> okay nvm other question
[22:06] <suore> why i cant see XChat tray icon
[22:06] <Haydork> k1l: it shows up in the software sources list as ubuntuhandbook1/apps
[22:07] <adamcunnington> once i've installed ubuntu, will i automatically get an option to choose which os i want to start when i boot my pc? does this also mean fastboot must be permenantly disabled?
[22:07] <k1l> Haydork: see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/apps?field.series_filter=trusty  no trusty package for scribus. talk to the PPA maintainer about that
[22:07] <eeee> adamcunnington: it's supposed to work that way, sometimes it doesn't, and yes fastboot must be disabled
[22:07] <genii> Haydork: If you do: apt-cache search scribus-trunk    does it show a version like 1.5 ?
[22:07] <holstein> adamcunnington: not sure.. i messed around and got fastboot working once. i decided i wasted much more time on that..
[22:08] <genii> Haydork: apt-cache policy scribus-trunk   ....rather
[22:08] <adamcunnington> eeee: what about secureboot? can i enable that after i'm done with the installation?
[22:08] <eeee> adamcunnington: most likely, yes.
[22:08] <eeee> adamcunnington: what laptop/desktop do you have?
[22:09] <adamcunnington> eeee: great thanks. It's a custom build
[22:09] <Haydork> k1l: N: Unable to locate package scribus-trunk
[22:09] <holstein> i had an eee.. i wouldnt bother with fastboot
[22:09] <k1l> adamcunnington: if you use that windows fastboot you cant mount the windows partition in ubuntu. but its not related to the grub startscreen
[22:09] <adamcunnington> eeee: ah ubuntu grub handles the boot menu - although it auto selects after x seconds which is annoying...
[22:10] <genii> Haydork: I would recommend then:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:scribus/ppa     ...then: sudo apt-get update   ... and try again with: apt-cache policy scribus-trunk
[22:10] <adamcunnington> k1l: is it worth doing?
[22:10] <Beldar> you can change the time out adamcunnington
[22:10] <eeee> adamcunnington: you can edit the default selection and timer seconds
[22:11]  * Beldar waits for the install and W8 wiped
[22:11] <adamcunnington> eeee: where?
[22:11] <adamcunnington> Beldar: ^
[22:11] <holstein> !grub
[22:11] <holstein> adamcunnington: you can read about the options ^
[22:11] <Haydork> k1l: I think I have it. Diff between ...handbook1/app and ...handbook1/ppa/ubuntu
[22:11] <k1l> adamcunnington: my windows boots pretty fast without that fastboot thing on my ssd
[22:12] <k1l> Haydork: that PPA got no scribus packages for trusty. so i dont know what you want now
[22:12] <eeee> what's the correct way to disable sudo after using it in a terminal? by that i mean if i sudo <command> then enter my password, i can use sudo <another command> without entering the password anymore, i tried sudo service sudo start, and it asks for the password again, is there a more correct/better way though?
[22:12] <adamcunnington> k1l: yea mine is booting fast as well tbh
[22:13] <Seppoh> Can anybody help me configure a Logitech F710?
[22:13] <holstein> Seppoh: ideally, id say logitech should.. but, what are you trying to do?
[22:13] <adamcunnington> holstein: thanks
[22:14] <Beldar> k1l, THe ppa has a trusty build added today
[22:14] <adamcunnington> I don't want to see any of my windows partitions in ubuntu - i'm going to remount just a certain part of the c: within home. Can I manually remove this from fstab?
[22:14] <Seppoh> play on mupen64plus, but because it runs directly with the terminal i can change options or map my keys
[22:14] <eeee> adamcunnington: you edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[22:14] <holstein> Seppoh: have you tried just using it? id just fire it up on something you can setup easily
[22:14] <adamcunnington> eeee: yea found it thanks
[22:15] <Haydork> k1l: I'm good and running 1.4.4 now. Added the ../ppa/ubuntu repository to sources.list and it worked. Don't know why the blog post had a different repository or if they moved the deb at some point.
[22:15] <k1l> Beldar: but not the one he said he enabled
[22:15] <Beldar> k1l, Not this one. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ppa
[22:15] <Seppoh> yes i tried but it wouldn't work, i tried "flight simulator" and there it would work though... some buttons
[22:15] <dey> it seems like i have 2 locale configs. The root one is correct. The user one isnt. How do i fix that via terminal?
[22:17] <Haydork> k1l: Baldar sent me to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ppa, which is the right repository, but updated a month ago instead of today. He's looking at something different or reading the date wrong.
[22:17] <adamcunnington> I don't want to see any of my windows partitions in ubuntu - i'm going to remount just a certain part of the c: within home. Can I manually remove this from fstab?
[22:17] <Haydork> k1l: but that was the key. It's not the rep I was using.
[22:17] <Beldar> Haydork, Ah, you are right 6/7 not 7/7 my mistake.
[22:17] <Seppoh> The question should more be like: anybody knows how to config a gamepad on mupen64plus?
[22:18] <Arch-Linux-Dabes> Hi bleno
[22:18] <Bleno> hey
[22:19] <Haydork> Beldar: but thanks, don't know how you found that, but it's the repository that had 1.4.4 in it.
[22:19] <Beldar> Any way to figure out why ppa:ubuntuhandbook1/ppa isn't giving me the new version of Scribus?   I searched with this info
[22:19] <Beldar> Haydork, ^^^^^^^
[22:19] <Bleno> how do i unstall gnu/ubuntu/linux ?
[22:20] <k1l> !install | Bleno
[22:20] <Bleno> ?
[22:20] <Arch-Linux-Dabes> Why install that pile of garbage when arch is so much better
[22:20] <Bleno> arch ?
[22:21] <adamcunnington> great ubuntu has just fallen over on me
[22:21] <Bleno> what is arch ?
[22:22] <adamcunnington> had to hard reset as couldn't access mouse or keyboard, what a load of shit
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> Bleno  never mind, he was joking
[22:22] <adamcunnington> not ubuntu* just the situ.
[22:22] <Beldar> Bleno, another linux distro, note that user was just banned.
[22:22] <Bleno> what is better ?
[22:22] <k1l> Bleno: dont mind the troll. the bot gave you an introduction to installing ubuntu
[22:22] <eeee> Bleno: i ask you the same question, what is "better"?
[22:23] <Bleno> is arch better ?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> Bleno  nwo he has you where he wanted: confused
[22:23] <k1l> Bleno: we dont mind arch here. if you want to discuss that comparison ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or in ##linux
[22:23] <Bleno> what ?
[22:23] <Haydork> Beldar: this is the post where the same maintainer says it's in the handbook1/ppp repository http://ubuntuhandbook.org/?s=scribus  I'll create an account there so I can log in and tell/ask him.
[22:24] <adamcunnington> ok so ubuntu just had a really bad crash on me, i hard rebooted and now it's only detecting 1 screen at 1024-768 and won't let me edit it, what the hell is going on?
[22:24] <AlexPortable> Trying to load PE image for unsupported architecture (AMD-64)
[22:24] <AlexPortable> when trying to open .exe with wine
[22:25] <Bleno> : (
[22:25] <eeee> I think Bleno is the arch-linux-guy
[22:25]  * Bleno slaps eeee around a bit with a large trout
[22:26] <Haydork> k1l: Thanks for your help and patience
[22:27] <k1l> Haydork: no problem.
[22:27] <Haydork> Beldar: Thanks for finding that and sticking with me.
[22:28] <pedrommone> l
[22:28] <adamcunnington> ok so ubuntu just had a really bad crash on me, i hard rebooted and now it's only detecting 1 screen at 1024-768 and won't let me edit it, what the hell is going on? Do i need to reinstall?
[22:28] <Ugb3> Hey, does anyone know how I could get white space working with mediatomb serving feature ?
[22:32] <AlexPortable> anyone/
[22:33] <holstein> AlexPortable: you are trying to open an .exe in wine? and getting a message?
[22:37] <tswett> Ahoy.
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> adamcunnington  right click on the desktop, select desktop settings, press All settings, then select Display and mark "mirror"... dirty work around, work from there
[22:38] <AlexPortable> yes
[22:39] <AlexPortable> holstein: yes
[22:39] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to capture video from a camera and stream it live?
[22:39] <craigbass1976> with Ubuntu
[22:41] <uberdub> Hi
[22:41] <uberdub> Cant reboot into newer kernels
[22:42] <uberdub> boot hangs at cryptsetup
[22:42] <uberdub> Unsure how to debug
[22:42] <uberdub> can boot into the older kernel
[22:43] <uberdub> Any help?
[22:44] <ytw> craigbass1976, pretty sure you can do it with vlc player
[22:44] <craigbass1976> ytw: that's what it's looking like, and I wasn't expecting that.  Can I go to a live stream, or just a file?
[22:45] <ytw> craigbass1976, pretty sure you can do both
[22:45] <Rolladenkasten> hi
[22:48] <holstein> AlexPortable: what is the message? what is the application? wine cant gurantee windows .exe support for anything, really
[22:48] <uberdub> anyone help with lvm issue?
[22:49] <holstein> !lvm
[22:49] <uberdub> yeah those how tos dont help
[22:49] <uberdub> ugh
[22:49] <uberdub> disabling lvm will be a pita
[22:50] <uberdub> I have no way to back anything up right now
[22:50] <holstein> uberdub: sounds more like a kernel issue to me.. i would just run the kernel that works, and wait for a "fix" .. file a bug report and check in
[22:50] <holstein> uberdub: you had best have backups, regardless..
[22:50] <uberdub> yeah.........been waiting 7 months now
[22:50] <AlexPortable> holstein: 00:24 <AlexPortable> Trying to load PE image for unsupported architecture (AMD-64)
[22:51] <holstein> uberdub: what are you running? 12.04?
[22:51] <eeee> !utopic > eeee
[22:51] <uberdub> 13.04...?
[22:51] <uberdub> let me check
[22:51] <holstein> !13.04
[22:52] <holstein> !wine | AlexPortable
[22:52] <holstein> AlexPortable: wine cant guarantee support like that for windows
[22:53] <uberdub> hmmm...maybe updating to 13.1 will fix?
[22:53] <weliton> oi
[22:53] <holstein> uberdub: no.. but, waiting an an EOL version will net ever get a fix
[22:53] <Amy_Lu_Who> I am new to ubuntu (and linux in general) I have wine and I am trying to run an .exe program with it.  the program asked me  to select the location where it stores data.  it keeps looking in C: but that doesn't exist.  how do I tell it where to store data?
[22:54] <holstein> uberdub: i would move on up to 14.04 the LTS.. you should have backupes, regardless.. all drives fail
[22:54] <uberdub> should
[22:54] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: i say, if you are new to linux in general, try and use a native application
[22:54] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: may i suggest one? if you let me know what you are trying to do?
[22:55] <eeee> !dd > eeee
[22:55] <Amy_Lu_Who> holstein, there is not a sutible application, I already asked.
[22:55] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: running code intended for a different operating system is not "easy"..
[22:55] <Amy_Lu_Who> holstein, i am trying to run bluestacks which will allow me to run android games on the laptop.
[22:55] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: and, can sometimes be not able to be faciliatated
[22:56] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: there are *many* android emulators.. though, passing android games (not intended for windows) through to a windows emulator running in linux (not intended for linux) is not a great plan
[22:56] <Amy_Lu_Who> holstein, i get that.  wine says it has mock drive locations.  can I use one of those?
[22:57] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: i would try http://techapple.net/2014/05/5-best-android-emulators-linux-run-android-apps-linux-ubuntulinuxmintfedoraarchlinuxopensusemageiacentos-etc/
[22:57] <fridaynext> My MacBook Pro's video card is failing, so I'm trying to decide what OS to run on the PC I build next.  Trying to figure out if Ubuntu will work for me or not.
[22:57] <Beldar> Amy_Lu_Who, You can get a android image that can be installed in a HD, maybe even better a virtual machine.
[22:57] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: unless the application says "we support wine, and guarantee it will work" then, it really doesnt matter what else you read
[22:57] <Amy_Lu_Who> holstein, can you suggest an android emulator that will work instead?  I asked in here weeks ago and the answer was "there is nothing that can help you."
[22:57] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: i did
[22:57] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: http://techapple.net/2014/05/5-best-android-emulators-linux-run-android-apps-linux-ubuntulinuxmintfedoraarchlinuxopensusemageiacentos-etc/
[22:58] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: i would try one of those, or Beldar 's native suggestion
[22:58] <eeee> !backup > eeee
[22:58] <Amy_Lu_Who> sorry i don't type and read at the same time... i'll try your suggestion.  thanks
[23:00] <Beldar> Amy_Lu_Who, just for info, http://www.android-x86.org/download
[23:00] <Monotoko> I can't seem to figure out what's running on port 6010 on my box... nor why Apache2 is only listening on v6, help? http://pastebin.com/rMdDjq4V
[23:01] <holstein> Amy_Lu_Who: ^ thats where i would start.. with Beldar 's suggestion.. native as possible
[23:02] <Amy_Lu_Who> holstein, Beldar thank you very much.
[23:02] <Beldar> Amy_Lu_Who, No problem, hopefully there is one closer up to date that works.
[23:03] <Amy_Lu_Who> While I am here, can you point me in the direction of a manual for how to use libre cad?  I found one that completely omits working in 3 dimensions... :S
[23:15] <auvajs> hi. I ran sudo update-manager -d from 12.04 to 14.04 but it crashed. now when I start it again it shows a window with message (I dont have English version) Checking updates availability..waiting till dpkg is finished..and nothing happens at all.. and the worst part my terminal uses turkısh keyboard now.. so strange..please help.. Im desperate
[23:17] <adamcunnington|2> Hi, ubuntu was working fine but I had a nasty crash and now, only 1 of my screens shows despite having 3 connected and i can't modify the resolution from 1024x768, what can i do other than reinstall?
[23:17] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: a lot
[23:18] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: first swap the connections between one working one and the non-working one, to rule out hardware failure
[23:18] <adamcunnington|2> reisio: i'm currently on windows, all work fine, definitely not hardware.
[23:20] <paraibano> hello
[23:21] <reisio> paraibano: 'lo
[23:21] <adamcunnington|2> reisio: ?
[23:22] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: ?
[23:22] <adamcunnington|2> redeemed: what next?
[23:22] <adamcunnington|2> reisio: ^
[23:23] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: quoi?
[23:23] <paraibano> what's the best irc app for iphone?
[23:23] <adamcunnington|2> Paradisee: colloquy
[23:24] <adamcunnington|2> reisio: are you drunk? lol, you said "a lot" of things could be done, you've listed 1 so far, i'm patiently awaiting the next
[23:24] <Beldar> !topic | paraibano
[23:24] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: let me know when you've done the first
[23:24] <adamcunnington|2> reisio: done, works
[23:24] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: what's your graphics device?
[23:24] <adamcunnington|2> reisio: "device?" do you mean card?
[23:24] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: sure, if it's a card
[23:25] <uberdub> upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10
[23:25] <uberdub> then going to upgrade to 14.04
[23:25] <adamcunnington|2> reisio: the point is, it worked fine earlier, then ubuntu crashed, i had to hard reset and now it's messed up
[23:25] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: yes you said
[23:25] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: what's your graphics device?
[23:25] <adamcunnington|2> reisio: gtx 770
[23:25] <uberdub> running do-release-upgrade now, and got this error: Err http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/restricted Translation-en_US
[23:25] <reisio> adamcunnington|2: sudo which nvidia-xconfig
[23:26] <adamcunnington|2> reisio: ok let me boot into ubuntu, brb
[23:26] <Beldar> !eol | uberdub
[23:26] <Beldar> uberdub, read the eol upgrade info 13.04 is eol
[23:27] <uberdub> Ahh
[23:27] <uberdub> thx
[23:27] <Beldar> no prob
[23:27] <uberdub> aborting do-release-upgrade fornow
[23:30] <uberdub> that link doesnt cover 13.04
[23:31] <adamcunnington> reisio: back, was it sudo which nvidia-config ?
[23:31] <reisio> adamcunnington: sudo which nvidia-xconfig
[23:31] <adamcunnington> reisio: result is empty
[23:32] <reisio> adamcunnington: install apt-file and find out what package provides that, then install that package
[23:33] <adamcunnington> reisio: installed but how do i find out which package provided it?
[23:34] <reisio> adamcunnington: apt-file nvidia-xconfig, IIRC
[23:34] <adamcunnington> reisio: nope
[23:34] <reisio> apt-file search nvidia-xconfig
[23:35] <adamcunnington> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7762599/
[23:38] <adamcunnington> reisio: ^
[23:38] <reisio> :)
[23:39] <reisio> adamcunnington: yup, you want one of those
[23:39] <reisio> dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia will tell you if you have one already, I'm guessing not
[23:39] <reisio> you might see a little green circuit board at top right that can help you out
[23:39] <reisio> or you might find something in the system prefs
[23:39] <reisio> but basically you should install one and run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:39] <reisio> then nvidia-settings, to do any multi-monitor tweaking
[23:44] <Beldar> uberdub, It is still the same for 13.04 as the earlier releases in that link, be backed up to be safe isall.
[23:44] <adamcunnington> reisio: ok but none of this explains why it magically worked fine before it all crashed
[23:45] <adamcunnington> reisio: and "install one", install one what? i didn't uinderstand the output that i pasted to you, i just did as i was told
[23:45] <AlexPortable> holstein: yes but what does the error means
[23:45] <Beldar> uberdub, use the 11.10 to 12.04 model but correct releases.
[23:46] <reisio> adamcunnington: it could take some time to understand exactly why
[23:47] <reisio> adamcunnington: you probably confused your FS, because they aren't really designed to be turned off improperly
[23:47] <adamcunnington> reisio: ok, so can you explain in laymen terms what i actually need to do now to resolve this please?
[23:47] <adamcunnington> I need to install something?
[23:47] <reisio> adamcunnington: just do what you have to do to get multi monitors working ordinarily
[23:48] <reisio> install a driver, configure it, done
[23:48] <adamcunnington> reisio: how do i install a driver on ubuntu? i didn't think that was a relevant concept t linux
[23:48] <reisio> adamcunnington: sure it is, it just comes with drivers like any OS
[23:48] <adamcunnington> reisio: where? in the software store?
[23:48] <reisio> sure, search for 'nvidia'
[23:48] <reisio> 'nvidia-###' is a driver for your hardware
[23:49] <[Saint]> I was wondering if someone might enlighten me as to how to undo "unlock key on login" thing. My partner accidentally selected "yes" to this, and, it is most certainly unwanted.
[23:49] <reisio> right now you're probably using an open source one, that is likely inferior (not because it's open source, but because nvidia is always going to be ahead on its own hardware)
[23:49] <reisio> [Saint]: ls /usr/bin/*demo
[23:50] <adamcunnington> reisio: nvidia-331 doesn't exist in the store
[23:50] <adamcunnington> reisio: unless it's a ppa?
[23:50] <[Saint]> reisio: errrr...nope.
[23:51] <reisio> adamcunnington: try installing one that does exist :)
[23:51] <dark2300> hello world
[23:52] <dark2300> ubuntu mate rocks
[23:52] <adamcunnington> reisio: nvidia- returns no results in the software centre, they're all pppas
[23:53] <reisio> [Saint]: try: dconf-editor /org/gnome/desktop/lockdown/disable-lock-screen
[23:53] <reisio> adamcunnington: 'nvidia'
[23:54] <reisio> adamcunnington: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:54] <[Saint]> reisio: again - nope. But, thanks for the various suggestions at least.
[23:54] <[Saint]> I found it eventually.
[23:54] <adamcunnington> reisio: i saw that link already, there are no drivers in the software centre, only nvidia server settings
[23:54] <[Saint]> Not surprisingly not anywhere near anywhere anyoine said it would be. ;)
[23:54] <reisio> [Saint]: found it in the menus?
[23:55] <adamcunnington> reisio: oh my goodness, this entire time i just had toi launchg additional drivers, we made this 100x more complex than it neded to be...
[23:56] <reisio> adamcunnington: mmm, well someone did :) I believe I mentioned that long ago :)
[23:56] <adamcunnington> reisio: ...
[23:56] <reisio> 17 minutes ago :)
[23:56] <adamcunnington> you said "green thing in the corner", not quite the same thing
[23:56] <reisio> but gj
[23:56] <reisio> adamcunnington: it's not green?
[23:56] <adamcunnington> and then you started getting me to install apt-file and all sorts of stuff
[23:56] <adamcunnington> reisio: it wasn't appearing in the corner, that's the entire point
[23:56] <reisio> where was it appearing?
[23:57] <adamcunnington> no where.
[23:57] <[Saint]> Not surprising at all. Signal to noise ration in here is...well...yeah. ;)
[23:57] <adamcunnington> it wasn't appearing
[23:57] <adamcunnington> no where.
[23:57] <reisio> how'd you find it then?
[23:57] <adamcunnington> not sure how else i can word that
[23:57] <adamcunnington> by searching for it when i kept seeing sites mentioning it but not knowing what it was
[23:57] <adamcunnington> low and behold it was installed
[23:57] <adamcunnington> rather than apt-file etc. etc.
[23:57] <reisio> what was installed?
[23:57] <adamcunnington> additional drivers
[23:57] <reisio> mmm, k
[23:57] <reisio> gj
[23:57] <adamcunnington> ssigh, thanks for your help anyway
[23:58] <holstein> AlexPortable: it would be challenging to know for sure
[23:58] <holstein> AlexPortable: for you, it means, its not going to be easy to run that applciation in wine..
[23:58] <AlexPortable> why not?
[23:58] <holstein> AlexPortable: because you are trying and getting that message. and no one can help with it
[23:58] <holstein> !wine
[23:59] <holstein> you can ask in the wine channel, but, they have rather detailed documentation about what works and how at the winehq site..