/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/07/08/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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soeegood morning08:31
alleevhanda09:38
Riddellhola09:53
Riddellvalorie: have you spokes to sgclark about travel?09:55
soeeRiddell: this meta package for plasma-next you mentioned last week was missing is ready now ?10:00
Riddellnot yet I'm afraid, too many releases!10:01
Riddellhey looking nice and green :) http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_4.98.0_utopic.html10:05
soeeRiddell: yeah thats why i asked about this package - to test this green stuff :)10:07
Riddellyou can install it all, you just need to look at each source package and work out what binary packages it makes to install10:08
RiddellI'll install it in an hour or two once I fix a couple of compile issues I see, I'll let you know how that works10:11
soeeRiddell: ok, thanks10:13
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:14
soeehiho BluesKaj10:15
BluesKajHey soee10:17
Riddellshadeslayer: alive?10:29
* soee wonders why in plasma-next ppa some packages are with version 4:4.97.0 when we have already 4.9810:30
Riddellshadeslayer: which ones?10:32
Riddellsoee: which ones?10:38
soeeRiddell: for example kde-baseapps 4:4.97.0~git20140627-0ubuntu1, konsole 4:4.97.0~git20140623-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa3 or baloo5 and baloo-widgets510:40
Riddellsoee: konsole and kde-baseapps don't get released yet so we just take a snapshot10:41
Riddellsoee: baloo5 source has been renamed to baloo10:41
Riddelland baloo-widgets5 is also a snapshot10:41
Riddellso that's all good10:41
soeeRiddell: why do theu dont released /tehy arent part of the plasma5  ?10:42
Riddellsoee: they're not part of plasma5, they'll be part of applications which is still work in progress10:43
soeeok to have it more clear: kf5 = frameworks for apps and other stuff, plasma5 = more or less GUI and apps = apps build on top of kf5 ?10:45
Riddellsoee: yep :)10:46
Riddellwhich were all released together as KDE SC in the olden days but now are released separately10:47
soeeso in first plac we have kf5, than plasma5, than we can expect apps right ?10:47
Riddellyep10:49
Corodiusjust out of pure curiousity, will there (eventually) be packages for Kubuntu 14.04, in some form (I assume a different PPA) for KF5/Plasma 5 similar to Kubuntu-Next PPA? Or will it only be packages as project neon 5 is now? just curious as I said :)11:15
shadeslayerRiddell: no, I died, this is my ethereal form12:23
RiddellCorodius: I doubt we will package KF5 for 14.04, I don't think there will be much demand and it'll take a lot of time12:24
* yofel spots a slayer's ghost lingering about in the shade...12:31
shadeslayer:>12:34
apacheloggerRiddell: ping12:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: u got utopic plasma5?12:45
shadeslayerno12:45
shadeslayerI got the supreme neon one12:45
apachelogger:@12:45
* apachelogger needs a dpkg -L of plasma-workspace-data12:45
Riddellhi apachelogger 12:45
apacheloggerRiddell: yo, please be pasting dpkg -L plasma-workspace-data12:46
Riddellapachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-workspace-data12:46
apachelogger /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/klipper12:46
apacheloggerhurr durr, I think khelpcenter won't find that12:46
Riddellmuchos translations12:46
apacheloggerah it will12:46
apachelogger:O12:46
apacheloggershadeslayer: do we have no plasma5 khelpcenter in neon12:47
apacheloggerwhat is this?12:47
apacheloggerRiddell: all goody, thanks for the paste12:47
CorodiusRiddell: No worries, Thank you for the reply!12:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: nope12:51
shadeslayernot that I can tell12:51
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soeeRiddell: tested the latets plasma in VB, plasma-desktop held back as usual, after installing it  and rebbot problem with dbus after login and back to login screen12:59
Riddellsoee: try installing qt5-default13:05
sgclarkRiddell: good morning, should I make new snapshots of the apps, or is there another priority for me today13:07
Riddellsgclark: plasma-workspace could do with some love13:09
sgclarkRiddell: ahh missed that, on it13:09
BluesKajhard to love something that has the word "work" in it :)13:10
BluesKajfor me anyway13:11
soeeRiddell: worked with qt5-default ;)13:12
Riddellyay!13:12
RiddellI should work out how to make qt5-default not required13:12
Riddellsomething needs qdbus, not sure what13:13
* soee wonders how this ll wil work on my laptop (not VB)13:13
Riddellit'll work awesome13:13
Riddellmoney back guarantee13:13
soeeafter last try im not so optimistic13:14
Riddellsgclark: ignore the KF5XmlRpcClient that plasma-workspace wants, shadeslayer is working on that but the others should be easy to add13:14
sgclarkok13:14
soeehere wss a fresh installation in VB, while on laptop it will use current user folder/settings13:14
soeeand they might result with som problems13:15
shadeslayerRiddell: sgclark http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2014-July/033409.html13:15
BluesKaji see a lot of qt5 libs in muon that aren't installed, why not ?13:16
Riddellbecause you haven't installed them?13:16
BluesKajnot ready for prime time I suppose13:16
shadeslayerwhat13:17
shadeslayerBluesKaj: if they're not required they won't be installed13:17
* BluesKaj refrains from asking anymore dumb questions13:18
soeeRiddell: just wonder, if i now install plasma withoout meta files, and i miss some files, are they going to be installed when you add this meta info ?13:23
Riddellsoee: yes13:33
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shadeslayerRiddell: override_dh_auto_configure:13:38
shadeslayer        $(overridden_command) -- -DECM_MKSPECS_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/modules/13:38
shadeslayerwhy the ECM_MKSPECS_INSTALL_DIR in karchive13:38
Riddellshadeslayer: probably historical, you can get rid of it as we set that in ecm directly now13:39
shadeslayercheers13:39
shadeslayerRiddell: I'll upload karchive to the archive after some changelog cleanup then13:39
Riddellshadeslayer: yay :)13:43
shadeslayermmm13:49
shadeslayerRiddell: karchive has no VCS packaging entries13:49
Riddellshadeslayer: many of them probably miss that13:50
shadeslayerok13:50
shadeslayerScottK: karchive uploaded to the archive13:55
shadeslayerplz be reviewing13:55
shadeslayeroh13:55
ScottKI'll probably have not much time for that this week.13:55
shadeslayerok13:55
shadeslayerI'll work on ecm next13:55
shadeslayerScottK: it's not time sensitive13:56
shadeslayerScottK: as long as it gets in before FF13:56
Riddellor I can review14:00
Riddellbut why upload karchive before ecm?14:00
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah, I forgot about ecm14:00
shadeslayerdoing that right now14:00
shadeslayerfor some reason I thought ecm was already in the archive14:00
* soee second attempt to install plasma5 +.+14:01
Riddellsgclark: your packaging is now entering the archive!14:01
sgclarkRiddell: ?14:02
shadeslayerRiddell: there, ecm uploded14:03
shadeslayerI need to acquire food now14:03
shadeslayerbrb14:03
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Riddellsgclark: shadeslayer is taking the kf5 packaging and putting it into the ubuntu archive for all to use, no PPA needed14:08
sgclarkoh wow14:08
Riddellat last your chance for fame and glory :)14:09
sgclarkRiddell: shadeslayer: want me to update all of them to include VCS, actually been meaning to do that14:09
Riddellsgclark: yeah that would be good14:09
sgclarkon it14:10
Riddelland writing a blog post saying how great it is and how more people should come and help out would be nice too :)14:10
sgclarkRiddell: ok lol, need to dust off my blog14:10
soeeback :O14:13
soeeRiddell: i had the same issue - plasme did not load after login14:13
soee*plasma14:13
soeeso i emptied my user folder, reboot and now im on plasma-next :)14:13
Riddellsgclark: oh breeze needs some love, it's putting everything into breeze-cursor-theme but it now installs icons and other bits14:18
sgclarkRiddell: ok, on it14:18
soeesome icons missing in system-settings14:21
soeealso, im not sure is system-seetings package is updated as some entries liek Compositor are missing14:21
soeedolphin crashes :/14:23
Riddellwell, it's allowed to, it's unreleased :)14:24
soeewhat about krunner its also  not available ?14:25
Riddellsoee: works for me14:25
Riddellplasma-workspace: /usr/bin/krunner14:26
soeeok so its probably the problme with not working shortcuts14:27
soeei have krunner process but can activcate it with ALT + F214:28
soeethen new icons theme is not available yet ?14:30
Riddellit's not complete, you can install breeze-cursor-theme (sgclark will fix the packaging) and switch to it in system settings14:32
Riddellsoee: do you have /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 running?14:33
Riddellplasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kglobalaccel514:33
shadeslayersgclark: go ahead14:33
soeeRiddell: this is some command: plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 ?14:33
Riddellcommand is /usr/bin/kglobalaccel514:33
Riddellpackage is plasma-workspace14:33
Riddellalthough it should get started by dbus I think14:34
soeeRiddell: yes i can see it in system monitor14:34
Riddellsoee: those missing patches in system settings are nice easy bugs to fix if you want to get your hands dirty14:35
Riddellmissing icons I mean14:35
shadeslayerRiddell: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=800219414:35
soeeRiddell: probably but atm i would have to spend a lot of time working out how to create, send them etc :)14:36
Riddellshadeslayer: bah, no mention of kubuntu :(14:37
shadeslayeryep14:37
Riddelljmux: I'll sue!14:37
shadeslayerheh14:37
soeemilou is not working here also ?14:37
shadeslayersoee: huh?14:38
shadeslayerdoes milou not work for you in trusty?14:38
soeeno idea :) im on 14.1014:38
shadeslayeroh ok14:43
shadeslayersgclark: you might also want to add the stable url in debian/watch14:48
sgclarkshadeslayer: ok will do14:48
sgclarkRiddell: can you review breeze to see that I split them out correctly14:55
* Riddell in meeting for a few minutes..14:58
soeeworkspaces dont work with new plasma15:06
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Riddellsoee: what do you mean by workspaces?15:07
soeesorry, *activities15:08
soeeswitching activity leads to plasmashell crash15:08
Riddellmm15:09
soeeat first 1-2 crashes it retsarts but than it dies for good15:10
soeeand after reebot  crashes after login, deleteing som dot folders in home dir helps 15:11
soeedisn't inspect what folder/folders exactly15:11
Riddellhow do you even add or change an activity?15:11
Riddellah needs the plasma applet on the panel15:12
Riddellworks good here15:12
Riddellgot kactivities installed?15:12
soeeRiddell: yes15:13
Riddellsoee: best report a bug I guess15:14
jmuxRiddell: Hmm. Nobody I asked knew of it. I don't think there is a problem, but it would have been polite to ask for an Ok... and yes, we're using Kubuntu ;-)15:15
Riddellhah, so canonical just being cheeky15:15
jmuxThose BSP and Hackfests are for a reason15:15
Riddelljmux: I think we'll schedule ours for the end of november to space it out for akademy by the way15:16
shadeslayerI am unsure if we want one tbh :p15:16
Riddellyou and your swanning off to switzerland15:17
shadeslayerwe could just crash the BSP and get frameworks into debian15:17
Riddellcrash our own BSP?15:17
shadeslayercrash Debian's BSP15:17
Riddellshadeslayer: the idea is to have it joint with debian (at least)15:17
* shadeslayer throws some tacos at kconfig15:17
Riddellthat's why I send them the same doodle poll15:17
shadeslayerah ok15:17
shadeslayer<Riddell> jmux: I think we'll schedule ours for the end of november to space it out for akademy by the way < made me think we were going to have a separate one15:18
Riddellshadeslayer: the other people invited are libreoffice and kdepim15:19
jmuxWell - I guess LO won't be at a BSP, as theiy have their big konference in September and a Hackfest in Toulouse at November. Yesterday I finally got a reply from Debian.15:21
jmuxI'll send a writeup tomorrow15:21
soeehmm15:21
Riddelljmux: oh? what did they say?15:27
Riddelljmux: anything from kdepim?15:27
shadeslayerRiddell: I keep forgetting, workspace is not meant to be co installable right?15:28
ScottKIt's not15:28
Riddellshadeslayer: no, except parts which overlap with kde-runtime15:28
* shadeslayer goes back to replying to email thread15:28
ScottKapachelogger: You should see my latest mail to kubuntu-devel.  It involves somewhat fancy use of make and sed in combination.15:29
ScottKRiddell: ^^^ you too.15:29
* ScottK would like some feeeback on this.15:30
Riddellwibble, control.in, they're quite fragile from anything I've seen using them15:30
shadeslayerScottK: I actually think it's a neat idea15:31
shadeslayerless manual work15:31
shadeslayerand everyone knows I'm all for less work :p15:31
ScottKRiddell: One thing a non-prototype instantiation would do is have a big comment across the top that says something like "### DO NOT EDIT - CHANGES WILL BE LOST - EDIT CONTROL.IN INSTEAD ###"15:32
ScottKThat's really the only issue I've seen with it.15:32
ScottKThe thing that's really fragile (and IIRC forbidden) is to try to generate dependencies this way.15:33
ScottKWe use control.in on the python metapackages and it's fine as long as you remember to edit control.in and not control.15:33
jmuxRiddell: Well - you also got all the reply, I have. KDE PIM had their doodle poll linked in the initial mail. Basicalyy they just wait for my announcement, preferably in November,15:34
jmuxRiddell: Seem I misread a name - the wasn't Debian but the KDE PIM...15:35
jmuxBTW - anybody already tried to port an app to KDE5? I'll get 5 students in September for half a year and I had the idea to improve the LO KDE4 backend (I have a plan) and a port to KDE5 (I have no plan).15:39
Riddelljmux: I've not yet but there are plenty of Kubuntu specific buts that need ported to Qt5/KF515:40
Riddelland surely LO KDE needs some Qt5 porting15:41
jmuxWell I just want to prevent major fights with KDE5 before assigning the students. I didn't try KDE5 yet. The students should focus on the KDE5 port and not struggling to much with the very new KDE5 desktop.15:44
jmuxWe have other projects - the students are free to choose. I just thought it might be an interesting project.15:44
Riddelljmux: yeah that's fine, no need to run Plasma 5 to port apps to KF515:44
Riddellinteresting and useful15:44
jmuxSo installing Kubuntu 14.04 with kde5 libs (from PPA?) should be fine.15:46
Riddelljmux: 14.1015:48
Riddellneeds to be utopic to get kf5 bits15:48
Riddellbut it's perfectly stable15:48
shadeslayer^^15:49
soeeiv installed latest updates and now activiteis work oO15:49
* jmux fixes LO bugs since three months - deep inside low level LO code15:49
shadeslayer:D15:50
soeebut the main issue is shortcuts now, kurunner etc15:50
soeenot usre why but i have baloo v. 4.13.2 installed16:06
soeeis it valid ?16:06
shadeslayersoee: why not16:07
shadeslayeror well, why would it be wrong?16:08
soeeshadeslayer: because in plasma-next ppa i see 4.98.016:08
Riddellsoee: install baloo-kf516:08
soeeRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7766350/16:09
soeegwenview to be removed ?16:10
Riddellsoee: upgrade it to version 4:4.13.2-0ubuntu1build116:11
soeewhere can i find thi updated version ?16:14
* ScottK pokes at apachelogger again.17:00
soeeRiddell: all the issues i have might be related ot some missing packages, i have installed some now i can open krunner but it searches nothing :)17:05
soeeha linkf5runner-data was missing i think17:14
soee*libkf5runner-data17:14
lordievaderGood evening.17:16
shadeslayerwaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttt17:42
shadeslayerI can't revert a rev in bzr?17:42
shadeslayerwhat is this? the 90's?17:42
yofelhuh?17:43
yofeluncommit?17:43
sgclark?17:43
shadeslayeryofel: it's not the last commit17:43
shadeslayerit's like HEAD~317:43
shadeslayeranyway, git bzr to the rescue17:43
yofeloh yeah, that's applying the reverse diff svn-style :P17:43
shadeslayer>.>17:44
shadeslayeroh lol17:45
shadeslayerInitial release 20 October 200017:45
shadeslayerfor subversion17:45
shadeslayerthats my birthday17:45
shadeslayeror well, not that year17:45
* yofel thought it was older...17:45
shadeslayerkind of weird how alot of initial releases happened on 20th October17:46
shadeslayerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_4.10_.28Warty_Warthog.2917:46
shadeslayerI should compile a list of these things :p17:46
shadeslayeroh17:48
shadeslayersgclark: minor note, you replaced unstable with stable, what I suggested was adding stable to the watch file17:49
shadeslayerand having unstable there too17:49
shadeslayeratleast thats what I did17:49
yofelthat is the better choice in general17:49
sgclarkshadeslayer: oh? oops ok, will do17:49
shadeslayer*nod*17:50
shadeslayersgclark: it's alright :)17:50
* sgclark fixes17:50
shadeslayerso far it's only been minor issues, packaging looks quite alright17:50
shadeslayersgclark: don't do kcodecs, I'm doing it17:50
sgclarkadding VCS while I am at it17:50
sgclarkok17:51
shadeslayercheers :)17:51
shadeslayerdo we *need* to build-dep on Qt5 Default?17:52
shadeslayeryofel: as regex master, do you have a way to add un/stable urls in one line?17:53
shadeslayerI tried a couple of ways, but they didn't work17:54
soeethers no polish translation atm for plasma-next ?17:54
shadeslayerah17:55
shadeslayerlconvert: could not find a Qt installation of ''17:55
shadeslayerhm17:55
shadeslayermost interesting17:55
yofelhm17:55
shadeslayerI thought qtchooser automatically chose whichever binary is isntalled17:56
yofelshadeslayer: something like this maybe:17:56
yofelftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/((un)?)stable/([\d\.]*)/src/kde-workspace-([\d\.]*).tar.xz17:56
yofelneed to try it on something that's actually in unstable though17:57
shadeslayerseems to work17:57
shadeslayeryofel: try karchive17:58
shadeslayeroh wait17:58
shadeslayerexclusively in unstable?17:58
shadeslayerplasma17:59
yofelwhat kind of syntax is this -.-18:01
soee*plasma-next -  if i open Muon, select some packages to be installes and want to apply changes i have error message: This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided. Usually i should be asked for password. Any idea wht can be wrong ?18:02
* ScottK sees that every now and then.18:03
ScottKNo idea why.18:03
ScottKWhen I see it, I take it as a sign I should be using apt.18:04
yofelshadeslayer: looking at the manpage the path part until the final slash needs to be an exact match for a single directory as I understand it18:04
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danikvsnI have a question18:09
danikvsnHow long would it approximately take to adapt the plasma update to Ubuntu for stable use?18:09
ScottKProbably about 10 months when 15.04 is released.18:11
shadeslayerScottK: soee sounds like polkit kde issues18:12
shadeslayeris the polkit kde daemon running?18:12
shadeslayerdrat18:12
shadeslayeryofel: drat18:13
soeeshadeslayer: i see polkid proccess18:13
shadeslayerwhat about the kde daemon18:13
soee*polkitd18:13
soeeoh  is it normal i have running kded4 and kded5 ?18:14
shadeslayeryes18:14
shadeslayerespecially if you're using kde4 applications18:15
soeeyup18:15
soeesomeone here runnign atm plasma5 ?18:15
shadeslayeryep18:16
shadeslayerbut from neon :p18:16
shadeslayerI should nag apachelogger to bootstrap it for utopic18:16
soeeshadeslayer: would you be so kind and check one thing ?18:16
shadeslayersure18:16
soeein System Settings -> Shortcuts -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts18:17
soeeon the list - do you have entry releated to activities ?18:17
soee*components list18:17
shadeslayernope18:20
shadeslayertry plasmashell18:20
shadeslayerif not there, file a bug18:20
soeeok :( btw does th printscr button works for you - can you take screenshot ?18:20
shadeslayernope18:21
ovidiu-florin_yofel: can you please help me with the IRC commands to switch my nick again18:21
ovidiu-florin_something with ghost18:21
ovidiu-florin_I think18:21
BluesKajOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit 18:22
BluesKajby typing: /msg nickserv GHOST «username» «password» 18:22
soeeshadeslayer: ok last thing :) you go desktop properties and want to change wallpaper do you see previews there ? also if you click to select different file do you have previes ?18:22
shadeslayerI thought that was released18:22
shadeslayeryes and yes18:22
shadeslayersoee: ^^18:22
ovidiu-florin_BluesKaj: how do I switch nick?18:23
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soeeshadeslayer: i dont have them  (thumbs) :/18:23
shadeslayersoee: none at all?18:23
soeeany idea what this can be related to18:23
soeeshadeslayer: nope18:23
newnick /nick newnick18:23
shadeslayermake sure you have kio-extras installed18:23
ovidiu-florin_newnick: doesn't work18:25
ovidiu-florin_I have to ghost it showhow18:25
shadeslayerovidiu-florin_: try /msg nickser help release18:25
soeeshadeslayer: dependencies problem  kio-extras : Depends: libexiv2-13 but it is not installable18:25
shadeslayermmm18:25
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shadeslayersoee: what happens when you try to install that package18:26
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shadeslayerI need to run soon18:26
soeeshadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7766929/18:27
Blueskaj_ovidiu-florin_:  usw a different bick , newnick was just an example18:27
Blueskaj_nick rather18:27
shadeslayerstuck in proposed18:27
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shadeslayersoee: aha18:29
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shadeslayerexiv2 will cause breakage18:30
shadeslayerso it's being held back18:30
soeeso atm it is impossible to install kio-extras right ?18:31
shadeslayeryep18:31
yofelovidiu-florin_:  use the ghost command BluesKaj gave you, then you should be able to use /nick18:31
ovidiu-florin_yofel: it replyes ovidiu-florin is not online.18:33
yofelovidiu-florin_: how does /nick fail then?18:33
ovidiu-florin_doesn't do anything18:34
soeeshadeslayer: thank you for your help :)18:34
shadeslayersoee: np18:34
shadeslayersoee: you could download kio-extras and recompile it yourself18:34
yofelovidiu-florin_: that can't be... no server response at all?18:34
shadeslayerheading home I am18:35
shadeslayernight18:35
yofelnini18:35
ovidiu-florin_yofel: no18:35
yofelovidiu-florin_: if neither server nor nickserv respond I'm out of ideas, #freenode might help18:36
BluesKajovidiu-florin_:  is your nick registered?18:37
ovidiu-florin_yofel: I ran /nick ovidiu-florin18:37
ovidiu-florin_is this command wrong?18:37
yofelno..18:37
ovidiu-florin_* 435 ovidiu-florin #gcc Cannot change nickname while banned on channel18:38
ovidiu-florin_WTF? again?18:38
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ovidiu-florinDone18:38
yofelhehe18:38
* yofel wonders if he's still banned in #bash18:38
ovidiu-florinask the admins to fix that18:39
ovidiu-florinit happened to me to18:39
yofelah, I'm not, so that's good :)18:39
* BluesKaj is still banned in #ubuntu, but can't be bothered to appeal an unjust decision18:41
BluesKaji don't know enough about unity etc anyway18:42
EtriaphG'day folks.18:49
lordievadero/18:49
BluesKajhey Etriaph18:50
EtriaphI trust everyone is well today?18:54
BluesKajfine here18:54
lordievaderDoing good here, what about you Etriaph?18:57
EtriaphPretty well, listening to Chopin and writing some code.18:58
EtriaphGood way to spend the afternoon :D18:58
lordievader:)18:58
BluesKajhow many bits to the bar ?19:02
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EtriaphRiddell: ping19:55
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soeesomeone knows if it is possible to make yakuake works in plasma5 ?21:49
soeenow i know why thers no shortcut for activities: http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2014/06/07/the-future-of-activity-switching/21:56
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* apachelogger has much tired eyes22:26
apacheloggerRiddell: u still up?22:26
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valorieRiddell: I've replied to her last email, yes (and I got the money from Canonical finally)23:46
apacheloggersomeday I should also ask for money from canonical23:46
* apachelogger always feels like he has to look at things into a kubuntu capacity then; limits the view :P23:47

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