[08:31] <soee> good morning
[09:38] <allee> vhanda
[09:53] <Riddell> hola
[09:55] <Riddell> valorie: have you spokes to sgclark about travel?
[10:00] <soee> Riddell: this meta package for plasma-next you mentioned last week was missing is ready now ?
[10:01] <Riddell> not yet I'm afraid, too many releases!
[10:05] <Riddell> hey looking nice and green :) http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_4.98.0_utopic.html
[10:07] <soee> Riddell: yeah thats why i asked about this package - to test this green stuff :)
[10:08] <Riddell> you can install it all, you just need to look at each source package and work out what binary packages it makes to install
[10:11] <Riddell> I'll install it in an hour or two once I fix a couple of compile issues I see, I'll let you know how that works
[10:13] <soee> Riddell: ok, thanks
[10:14] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:15] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[10:17] <BluesKaj> Hey soee
[10:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: alive?
[10:30]  * soee wonders why in plasma-next ppa some packages are with version 4:4.97.0 when we have already 4.98
[10:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: which ones?
[10:38] <Riddell> soee: which ones?
[10:40] <soee> Riddell: for example kde-baseapps 4:4.97.0~git20140627-0ubuntu1, konsole 4:4.97.0~git20140623-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa3 or baloo5 and baloo-widgets5
[10:41] <Riddell> soee: konsole and kde-baseapps don't get released yet so we just take a snapshot
[10:41] <Riddell> soee: baloo5 source has been renamed to baloo
[10:41] <Riddell> and baloo-widgets5 is also a snapshot
[10:41] <Riddell> so that's all good
[10:42] <soee> Riddell: why do theu dont released /tehy arent part of the plasma5  ?
[10:43] <Riddell> soee: they're not part of plasma5, they'll be part of applications which is still work in progress
[10:45] <soee> ok to have it more clear: kf5 = frameworks for apps and other stuff, plasma5 = more or less GUI and apps = apps build on top of kf5 ?
[10:46] <Riddell> soee: yep :)
[10:47] <Riddell> which were all released together as KDE SC in the olden days but now are released separately
[10:47] <soee> so in first plac we have kf5, than plasma5, than we can expect apps right ?
[10:49] <Riddell> yep
[11:15] <Corodius> just out of pure curiousity, will there (eventually) be packages for Kubuntu 14.04, in some form (I assume a different PPA) for KF5/Plasma 5 similar to Kubuntu-Next PPA? Or will it only be packages as project neon 5 is now? just curious as I said :)
[12:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: no, I died, this is my ethereal form
[12:24] <Riddell> Corodius: I doubt we will package KF5 for 14.04, I don't think there will be much demand and it'll take a lot of time
[12:31]  * yofel spots a slayer's ghost lingering about in the shade...
[12:34] <shadeslayer> :>
[12:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: ping
[12:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: u got utopic plasma5?
[12:45] <shadeslayer> no
[12:45] <shadeslayer> I got the supreme neon one
[12:45] <apachelogger> :@
[12:45]  * apachelogger needs a dpkg -L of plasma-workspace-data
[12:45] <Riddell> hi apachelogger 
[12:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: yo, please be pasting dpkg -L plasma-workspace-data
[12:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-workspace-data
[12:46] <apachelogger>  /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/klipper
[12:46] <apachelogger> hurr durr, I think khelpcenter won't find that
[12:46] <Riddell> muchos translations
[12:46] <apachelogger> ah it will
[12:46] <apachelogger> :O
[12:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do we have no plasma5 khelpcenter in neon
[12:47] <apachelogger> what is this?
[12:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: all goody, thanks for the paste
[12:47] <Corodius> Riddell: No worries, Thank you for the reply!
[12:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nope
[12:51] <shadeslayer> not that I can tell
[12:59] <soee> Riddell: tested the latets plasma in VB, plasma-desktop held back as usual, after installing it  and rebbot problem with dbus after login and back to login screen
[13:05] <Riddell> soee: try installing qt5-default
[13:07] <sgclark> Riddell: good morning, should I make new snapshots of the apps, or is there another priority for me today
[13:09] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma-workspace could do with some love
[13:09] <sgclark> Riddell: ahh missed that, on it
[13:10] <BluesKaj> hard to love something that has the word "work" in it :)
[13:11] <BluesKaj> for me anyway
[13:12] <soee> Riddell: worked with qt5-default ;)
[13:12] <Riddell> yay!
[13:12] <Riddell> I should work out how to make qt5-default not required
[13:13] <Riddell> something needs qdbus, not sure what
[13:13]  * soee wonders how this ll wil work on my laptop (not VB)
[13:13] <Riddell> it'll work awesome
[13:13] <Riddell> money back guarantee
[13:14] <soee> after last try im not so optimistic
[13:14] <Riddell> sgclark: ignore the KF5XmlRpcClient that plasma-workspace wants, shadeslayer is working on that but the others should be easy to add
[13:14] <sgclark> ok
[13:14] <soee> here wss a fresh installation in VB, while on laptop it will use current user folder/settings
[13:15] <soee> and they might result with som problems
[13:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: sgclark http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2014-July/033409.html
[13:16] <BluesKaj> i see a lot of qt5 libs in muon that aren't installed, why not ?
[13:16] <Riddell> because you haven't installed them?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> not ready for prime time I suppose
[13:17] <shadeslayer> what
[13:17] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: if they're not required they won't be installed
[13:18]  * BluesKaj refrains from asking anymore dumb questions
[13:23] <soee> Riddell: just wonder, if i now install plasma withoout meta files, and i miss some files, are they going to be installed when you add this meta info ?
[13:33] <Riddell> soee: yes
[13:38] <shadeslayer> Riddell: override_dh_auto_configure:
[13:38] <shadeslayer>         $(overridden_command) -- -DECM_MKSPECS_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/modules/
[13:38] <shadeslayer> why the ECM_MKSPECS_INSTALL_DIR in karchive
[13:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: probably historical, you can get rid of it as we set that in ecm directly now
[13:39] <shadeslayer> cheers
[13:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I'll upload karchive to the archive after some changelog cleanup then
[13:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yay :)
[13:49] <shadeslayer> mmm
[13:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: karchive has no VCS packaging entries
[13:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: many of them probably miss that
[13:50] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:55] <shadeslayer> ScottK: karchive uploaded to the archive
[13:55] <shadeslayer> plz be reviewing
[13:55] <shadeslayer> oh
[13:55] <ScottK> I'll probably have not much time for that this week.
[13:55] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:55] <shadeslayer> I'll work on ecm next
[13:56] <shadeslayer> ScottK: it's not time sensitive
[13:56] <shadeslayer> ScottK: as long as it gets in before FF
[14:00] <Riddell> or I can review
[14:00] <Riddell> but why upload karchive before ecm?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah, I forgot about ecm
[14:00] <shadeslayer> doing that right now
[14:00] <shadeslayer> for some reason I thought ecm was already in the archive
[14:01]  * soee second attempt to install plasma5 +.+
[14:01] <Riddell> sgclark: your packaging is now entering the archive!
[14:02] <sgclark> Riddell: ?
[14:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: there, ecm uploded
[14:03] <shadeslayer> I need to acquire food now
[14:03] <shadeslayer> brb
[14:07] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 7 updates, showing the latest 6
[14:08] <Riddell> sgclark: shadeslayer is taking the kf5 packaging and putting it into the ubuntu archive for all to use, no PPA needed
[14:08] <sgclark> oh wow
[14:09] <Riddell> at last your chance for fame and glory :)
[14:09] <sgclark> Riddell: shadeslayer: want me to update all of them to include VCS, actually been meaning to do that
[14:09] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah that would be good
[14:10] <sgclark> on it
[14:10] <Riddell> and writing a blog post saying how great it is and how more people should come and help out would be nice too :)
[14:10] <sgclark> Riddell: ok lol, need to dust off my blog
[14:13] <soee> back :O
[14:13] <soee> Riddell: i had the same issue - plasme did not load after login
[14:13] <soee> *plasma
[14:13] <soee> so i emptied my user folder, reboot and now im on plasma-next :)
[14:18] <Riddell> sgclark: oh breeze needs some love, it's putting everything into breeze-cursor-theme but it now installs icons and other bits
[14:18] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, on it
[14:21] <soee> some icons missing in system-settings
[14:21] <soee> also, im not sure is system-seetings package is updated as some entries liek Compositor are missing
[14:23] <soee> dolphin crashes :/
[14:24] <Riddell> well, it's allowed to, it's unreleased :)
[14:25] <soee> what about krunner its also  not available ?
[14:25] <Riddell> soee: works for me
[14:26] <Riddell> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/krunner
[14:27] <soee> ok so its probably the problme with not working shortcuts
[14:28] <soee> i have krunner process but can activcate it with ALT + F2
[14:30] <soee> then new icons theme is not available yet ?
[14:32] <Riddell> it's not complete, you can install breeze-cursor-theme (sgclark will fix the packaging) and switch to it in system settings
[14:33] <Riddell> soee: do you have /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 running?
[14:33] <Riddell> plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5
[14:33] <shadeslayer> sgclark: go ahead
[14:33] <soee> Riddell: this is some command: plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 ?
[14:33] <Riddell> command is /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5
[14:33] <Riddell> package is plasma-workspace
[14:34] <Riddell> although it should get started by dbus I think
[14:34] <soee> Riddell: yes i can see it in system monitor
[14:35] <Riddell> soee: those missing patches in system settings are nice easy bugs to fix if you want to get your hands dirty
[14:35] <Riddell> missing icons I mean
[14:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8002194
[14:36] <soee> Riddell: probably but atm i would have to spend a lot of time working out how to create, send them etc :)
[14:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer: bah, no mention of kubuntu :(
[14:37] <shadeslayer> yep
[14:37] <Riddell> jmux: I'll sue!
[14:37] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:37] <soee> milou is not working here also ?
[14:38] <shadeslayer> soee: huh?
[14:38] <shadeslayer> does milou not work for you in trusty?
[14:38] <soee> no idea :) im on 14.10
[14:43] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[14:48] <shadeslayer> sgclark: you might also want to add the stable url in debian/watch
[14:48] <sgclark> shadeslayer: ok will do
[14:55] <sgclark> Riddell: can you review breeze to see that I split them out correctly
[14:58]  * Riddell in meeting for a few minutes..
[15:06] <soee> workspaces dont work with new plasma
[15:06] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 10 updates, showing the latest 6
[15:07] <Riddell> soee: what do you mean by workspaces?
[15:08] <soee> sorry, *activities
[15:08] <soee> switching activity leads to plasmashell crash
[15:09] <Riddell> mm
[15:10] <soee> at first 1-2 crashes it retsarts but than it dies for good
[15:11] <soee> and after reebot  crashes after login, deleteing som dot folders in home dir helps 
[15:11] <soee> disn't inspect what folder/folders exactly
[15:11] <Riddell> how do you even add or change an activity?
[15:12] <Riddell> ah needs the plasma applet on the panel
[15:12] <Riddell> works good here
[15:12] <Riddell> got kactivities installed?
[15:13] <soee> Riddell: yes
[15:14] <Riddell> soee: best report a bug I guess
[15:15] <jmux> Riddell: Hmm. Nobody I asked knew of it. I don't think there is a problem, but it would have been polite to ask for an Ok... and yes, we're using Kubuntu ;-)
[15:15] <Riddell> hah, so canonical just being cheeky
[15:15] <jmux> Those BSP and Hackfests are for a reason
[15:16] <Riddell> jmux: I think we'll schedule ours for the end of november to space it out for akademy by the way
[15:16] <shadeslayer> I am unsure if we want one tbh :p
[15:17] <Riddell> you and your swanning off to switzerland
[15:17] <shadeslayer> we could just crash the BSP and get frameworks into debian
[15:17] <Riddell> crash our own BSP?
[15:17] <shadeslayer> crash Debian's BSP
[15:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: the idea is to have it joint with debian (at least)
[15:17]  * shadeslayer throws some tacos at kconfig
[15:17] <Riddell> that's why I send them the same doodle poll
[15:17] <shadeslayer> ah ok
 jmux: I think we'll schedule ours for the end of november to space it out for akademy by the way < made me think we were going to have a separate one
[15:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: the other people invited are libreoffice and kdepim
[15:21] <jmux> Well - I guess LO won't be at a BSP, as theiy have their big konference in September and a Hackfest in Toulouse at November. Yesterday I finally got a reply from Debian.
[15:21] <jmux> I'll send a writeup tomorrow
[15:21] <soee> hmm
[15:27] <Riddell> jmux: oh? what did they say?
[15:27] <Riddell> jmux: anything from kdepim?
[15:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I keep forgetting, workspace is not meant to be co installable right?
[15:28] <ScottK> It's not
[15:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no, except parts which overlap with kde-runtime
[15:28]  * shadeslayer goes back to replying to email thread
[15:29] <ScottK> apachelogger: You should see my latest mail to kubuntu-devel.  It involves somewhat fancy use of make and sed in combination.
[15:29] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ you too.
[15:30]  * ScottK would like some feeeback on this.
[15:30] <Riddell> wibble, control.in, they're quite fragile from anything I've seen using them
[15:31] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I actually think it's a neat idea
[15:31] <shadeslayer> less manual work
[15:31] <shadeslayer> and everyone knows I'm all for less work :p
[15:32] <ScottK> Riddell: One thing a non-prototype instantiation would do is have a big comment across the top that says something like "### DO NOT EDIT - CHANGES WILL BE LOST - EDIT CONTROL.IN INSTEAD ###"
[15:32] <ScottK> That's really the only issue I've seen with it.
[15:33] <ScottK> The thing that's really fragile (and IIRC forbidden) is to try to generate dependencies this way.
[15:33] <ScottK> We use control.in on the python metapackages and it's fine as long as you remember to edit control.in and not control.
[15:34] <jmux> Riddell: Well - you also got all the reply, I have. KDE PIM had their doodle poll linked in the initial mail. Basicalyy they just wait for my announcement, preferably in November,
[15:35] <jmux> Riddell: Seem I misread a name - the wasn't Debian but the KDE PIM...
[15:39] <jmux> BTW - anybody already tried to port an app to KDE5? I'll get 5 students in September for half a year and I had the idea to improve the LO KDE4 backend (I have a plan) and a port to KDE5 (I have no plan).
[15:40] <Riddell> jmux: I've not yet but there are plenty of Kubuntu specific buts that need ported to Qt5/KF5
[15:41] <Riddell> and surely LO KDE needs some Qt5 porting
[15:44] <jmux> Well I just want to prevent major fights with KDE5 before assigning the students. I didn't try KDE5 yet. The students should focus on the KDE5 port and not struggling to much with the very new KDE5 desktop.
[15:44] <jmux> We have other projects - the students are free to choose. I just thought it might be an interesting project.
[15:44] <Riddell> jmux: yeah that's fine, no need to run Plasma 5 to port apps to KF5
[15:44] <Riddell> interesting and useful
[15:46] <jmux> So installing Kubuntu 14.04 with kde5 libs (from PPA?) should be fine.
[15:48] <Riddell> jmux: 14.10
[15:48] <Riddell> needs to be utopic to get kf5 bits
[15:48] <Riddell> but it's perfectly stable
[15:49] <shadeslayer> ^^
[15:49] <soee> iv installed latest updates and now activiteis work oO
[15:49]  * jmux fixes LO bugs since three months - deep inside low level LO code
[15:50] <shadeslayer> :D
[15:50] <soee> but the main issue is shortcuts now, kurunner etc
[16:06] <soee> not usre why but i have baloo v. 4.13.2 installed
[16:06] <soee> is it valid ?
[16:07] <shadeslayer> soee: why not
[16:08] <shadeslayer> or well, why would it be wrong?
[16:08] <soee> shadeslayer: because in plasma-next ppa i see 4.98.0
[16:08] <Riddell> soee: install baloo-kf5
[16:09] <soee> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7766350/
[16:10] <soee> gwenview to be removed ?
[16:11] <Riddell> soee: upgrade it to version 4:4.13.2-0ubuntu1build1
[16:14] <soee> where can i find thi updated version ?
[17:00]  * ScottK pokes at apachelogger again.
[17:05] <soee> Riddell: all the issues i have might be related ot some missing packages, i have installed some now i can open krunner but it searches nothing :)
[17:14] <soee> ha linkf5runner-data was missing i think
[17:14] <soee> *libkf5runner-data
[17:16] <lordievader> Good evening.
[17:42] <shadeslayer> waaaaaaaaaaaaattttttt
[17:42] <shadeslayer> I can't revert a rev in bzr?
[17:42] <shadeslayer> what is this? the 90's?
[17:43] <yofel> huh?
[17:43] <yofel> uncommit?
[17:43] <sgclark> ?
[17:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: it's not the last commit
[17:43] <shadeslayer> it's like HEAD~3
[17:43] <shadeslayer> anyway, git bzr to the rescue
[17:43] <yofel> oh yeah, that's applying the reverse diff svn-style :P
[17:44] <shadeslayer> >.>
[17:45] <shadeslayer> oh lol
[17:45] <shadeslayer> Initial release 	20 October 2000
[17:45] <shadeslayer> for subversion
[17:45] <shadeslayer> thats my birthday
[17:45] <shadeslayer> or well, not that year
[17:45]  * yofel thought it was older...
[17:46] <shadeslayer> kind of weird how alot of initial releases happened on 20th October
[17:46] <shadeslayer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Ubuntu_4.10_.28Warty_Warthog.29
[17:46] <shadeslayer> I should compile a list of these things :p
[17:48] <shadeslayer> oh
[17:49] <shadeslayer> sgclark: minor note, you replaced unstable with stable, what I suggested was adding stable to the watch file
[17:49] <shadeslayer> and having unstable there too
[17:49] <shadeslayer> atleast thats what I did
[17:49] <yofel> that is the better choice in general
[17:49] <sgclark> shadeslayer: oh? oops ok, will do
[17:50] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[17:50] <shadeslayer> sgclark: it's alright :)
[17:50]  * sgclark fixes
[17:50] <shadeslayer> so far it's only been minor issues, packaging looks quite alright
[17:50] <shadeslayer> sgclark: don't do kcodecs, I'm doing it
[17:50] <sgclark> adding VCS while I am at it
[17:51] <sgclark> ok
[17:51] <shadeslayer> cheers :)
[17:52] <shadeslayer> do we *need* to build-dep on Qt5 Default?
[17:53] <shadeslayer> yofel: as regex master, do you have a way to add un/stable urls in one line?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> I tried a couple of ways, but they didn't work
[17:54] <soee> thers no polish translation atm for plasma-next ?
[17:55] <shadeslayer> ah
[17:55] <shadeslayer> lconvert: could not find a Qt installation of ''
[17:55] <shadeslayer> hm
[17:55] <shadeslayer> most interesting
[17:55] <yofel> hm
[17:56] <shadeslayer> I thought qtchooser automatically chose whichever binary is isntalled
[17:56] <yofel> shadeslayer: something like this maybe:
[17:56] <yofel> ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/((un)?)stable/([\d\.]*)/src/kde-workspace-([\d\.]*).tar.xz
[17:57] <yofel> need to try it on something that's actually in unstable though
[17:57] <shadeslayer> seems to work
[17:58] <shadeslayer> yofel: try karchive
[17:58] <shadeslayer> oh wait
[17:58] <shadeslayer> exclusively in unstable?
[17:59] <shadeslayer> plasma
[18:01] <yofel> what kind of syntax is this -.-
[18:02] <soee> *plasma-next -  if i open Muon, select some packages to be installes and want to apply changes i have error message: This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided. Usually i should be asked for password. Any idea wht can be wrong ?
[18:03]  * ScottK sees that every now and then.
[18:03] <ScottK> No idea why.
[18:04] <ScottK> When I see it, I take it as a sign I should be using apt.
[18:04] <yofel> shadeslayer: looking at the manpage the path part until the final slash needs to be an exact match for a single directory as I understand it
[18:05] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 11 updates, showing the latest 6
[18:09] <danikvsn> I have a question
[18:09] <danikvsn> How long would it approximately take to adapt the plasma update to Ubuntu for stable use?
[18:11] <ScottK> Probably about 10 months when 15.04 is released.
[18:12] <shadeslayer> ScottK: soee sounds like polkit kde issues
[18:12] <shadeslayer> is the polkit kde daemon running?
[18:12] <shadeslayer> drat
[18:13] <shadeslayer> yofel: drat
[18:13] <soee> shadeslayer: i see polkid proccess
[18:13] <shadeslayer> what about the kde daemon
[18:13] <soee> *polkitd
[18:14] <soee> oh  is it normal i have running kded4 and kded5 ?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> yes
[18:15] <shadeslayer> especially if you're using kde4 applications
[18:15] <soee> yup
[18:15] <soee> someone here runnign atm plasma5 ?
[18:16] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:16] <shadeslayer> but from neon :p
[18:16] <shadeslayer> I should nag apachelogger to bootstrap it for utopic
[18:16] <soee> shadeslayer: would you be so kind and check one thing ?
[18:16] <shadeslayer> sure
[18:17] <soee> in System Settings -> Shortcuts -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[18:17] <soee> on the list - do you have entry releated to activities ?
[18:17] <soee> *components list
[18:20] <shadeslayer> nope
[18:20] <shadeslayer> try plasmashell
[18:20] <shadeslayer> if not there, file a bug
[18:20] <soee> ok :( btw does th printscr button works for you - can you take screenshot ?
[18:21] <shadeslayer> nope
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin_> yofel: can you please help me with the IRC commands to switch my nick again
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin_> something with ghost
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin_> I think
[18:22] <BluesKaj> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit 
[18:22] <BluesKaj> by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST «username» «password» 
[18:22] <soee> shadeslayer: ok last thing :) you go desktop properties and want to change wallpaper do you see previews there ? also if you click to select different file do you have previes ?
[18:22] <shadeslayer> I thought that was released
[18:22] <shadeslayer> yes and yes
[18:22] <shadeslayer> soee: ^^
[18:23] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: how do I switch nick?
[18:23] <soee> shadeslayer: i dont have them  (thumbs) :/
[18:23] <shadeslayer> soee: none at all?
[18:23] <soee> any idea what this can be related to
[18:23] <soee> shadeslayer: nope
[18:23] <newnick>  /nick newnick
[18:23] <shadeslayer> make sure you have kio-extras installed
[18:25] <ovidiu-florin_> newnick: doesn't work
[18:25] <ovidiu-florin_> I have to ghost it showhow
[18:25] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin_: try /msg nickser help release
[18:25] <soee> shadeslayer: dependencies problem  kio-extras : Depends: libexiv2-13 but it is not installable
[18:25] <shadeslayer> mmm
[18:26] <shadeslayer> soee: what happens when you try to install that package
[18:26] <shadeslayer> I need to run soon
[18:27] <soee> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7766929/
[18:27] <Blueskaj_> ovidiu-florin_:  usw a different bick , newnick was just an example
[18:27] <Blueskaj_> nick rather
[18:27] <shadeslayer> stuck in proposed
[18:29] <shadeslayer> soee: aha
[18:30] <shadeslayer> exiv2 will cause breakage
[18:30] <shadeslayer> so it's being held back
[18:31] <soee> so atm it is impossible to install kio-extras right ?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:31] <yofel> ovidiu-florin_:  use the ghost command BluesKaj gave you, then you should be able to use /nick
[18:33] <ovidiu-florin_> yofel: it replyes ovidiu-florin is not online.
[18:33] <yofel> ovidiu-florin_: how does /nick fail then?
[18:34] <ovidiu-florin_> doesn't do anything
[18:34] <soee> shadeslayer: thank you for your help :)
[18:34] <shadeslayer> soee: np
[18:34] <shadeslayer> soee: you could download kio-extras and recompile it yourself
[18:34] <yofel> ovidiu-florin_: that can't be... no server response at all?
[18:35] <shadeslayer> heading home I am
[18:35] <shadeslayer> night
[18:35] <yofel> nini
[18:35] <ovidiu-florin_> yofel: no
[18:36] <yofel> ovidiu-florin_: if neither server nor nickserv respond I'm out of ideas, #freenode might help
[18:37] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_:  is your nick registered?
[18:37] <ovidiu-florin_> yofel: I ran /nick ovidiu-florin
[18:37] <ovidiu-florin_> is this command wrong?
[18:37] <yofel> no..
[18:38] <ovidiu-florin_> * 435 ovidiu-florin #gcc Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[18:38] <ovidiu-florin_> WTF? again?
[18:38] <ovidiu-florin> Done
[18:38] <yofel> hehe
[18:38]  * yofel wonders if he's still banned in #bash
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> ask the admins to fix that
[18:39] <ovidiu-florin> it happened to me to
[18:39] <yofel> ah, I'm not, so that's good :)
[18:41]  * BluesKaj is still banned in #ubuntu, but can't be bothered to appeal an unjust decision
[18:42] <BluesKaj> i don't know enough about unity etc anyway
[18:49] <Etriaph> G'day folks.
[18:49] <lordievader> o/
[18:50] <BluesKaj> hey Etriaph
[18:54] <Etriaph> I trust everyone is well today?
[18:54] <BluesKaj> fine here
[18:57] <lordievader> Doing good here, what about you Etriaph?
[18:58] <Etriaph> Pretty well, listening to Chopin and writing some code.
[18:58] <Etriaph> Good way to spend the afternoon :D
[18:58] <lordievader> :)
[19:02] <BluesKaj> how many bits to the bar ?
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[19:55] <Etriaph> Riddell: ping
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[21:49] <soee> someone knows if it is possible to make yakuake works in plasma5 ?
[21:56] <soee> now i know why thers no shortcut for activities: http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2014/06/07/the-future-of-activity-switching/
[22:05] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 12 updates, showing the latest 6
[22:26]  * apachelogger has much tired eyes
[22:26] <apachelogger> Riddell: u still up?
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[23:46] <valorie> Riddell: I've replied to her last email, yes (and I got the money from Canonical finally)
[23:46] <apachelogger> someday I should also ask for money from canonical
[23:47]  * apachelogger always feels like he has to look at things into a kubuntu capacity then; limits the view :P