=== Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [02:01] robert_ancell, Thanks for the reviews [02:01] Noskcaj, np [02:03] robert_ancell: Thanks, got sidetracked. [02:07] TheMuso, I know the feeling :) [04:46] having a weird problem with microsoft lifecam cinema hd, ubuntu 14.04, and capturing audio and video simultaneously, specifically using guvcview. Cursory web search has yielded nothing helpful. Now I am digging into IRC channels. [04:47] Anyone point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. [04:57] karlgrz, #ubuntu is a better place [04:57] !patience [04:57] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [04:57] cool, thanks I'll check there [05:52] Good morning [06:41] good morning desktopers [06:42] hey seb128 [06:42] didrocks, lut ;-) [06:59] didrocks: hi, sorry that it took so long: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7764061/ [06:59] mvo_: thanks! let me have a look how wrong I was ;) (and thanks for looking without me reminding you ;)) [07:00] good morning mvo_ ;-) [07:00] mvo_: oh, something is calling dpkg from the chroot? [07:01] apt.apt_pkg.config.set("Dir::Bin::dpkg", self.dpkg) isn't enough? [07:01] (which was set to the dpkg wrapper with the custom name) [07:01] didrocks: yeah, python-apt assumes that if you setup a alternative rootdir use want to use the dpkg from there. which is a bug, because it should keep dir::bin::dpkg if the user already has customized it [07:02] didrocks: you did nothing wrong, the library tried to be too clever [07:02] ah, so there are some calls missing using the dir::bin:dpkg dir [07:02] mvo_: thanks! let me have a try :) [07:04] mvo_: you tried on test_is_bucket_available_foreign_archs(), right? (it stills fails for me) [07:05] ./runtests tests/small/test_requirements_handler.py:TestRequirementsHandler.test_install_with_foreign_foreign_arch_added [07:05] 2014-07-08 09:05:07,635 [udtc.network.requirements_handler] INFO: Create a new apt cache [07:05] Install packages with a foreign arch added ... ok [07:05] didrocks: let me test the other one [07:05] ah, the instlal [07:05] mvo_: if you pull from latest, I added a return on the others [07:06] mvo_: I wanted to look at the failing-non-foreign related ones [07:12] didrocks: ok, I'm on it, the other one is failng too === shiznix_ is now known as shiznix [07:12] mvo_: ah, that makes more sense. Really only look at the available* one, it's way simpler [07:13] now that dpkg and the name "dpkg", I will avoid mocking get_foreign_archs [07:28] mvo_: I found it :) [07:29] oh? [07:29] mvo_: so, your fix really fixed it [07:29] but in the refactoring I introduced meanwhile broke the cache refresh (I wasn't reassign the cache with .open()) [07:29] so while you fix it, I break it! :) [07:29] ok [07:29] good that its found now [07:30] mvo_: yeah! thanks a lot for the dpkg thing in dir, I wouldn't have found it :) [07:30] didrocks: I fixed it upstream so in the future it should honor custom settings better [07:31] mvo_: excellent! thanks again ;) [07:32] mvo_: I don't really need to cache.update() after I add the new architecture it seems [07:32] mvo_: this is expected? [07:34] (I just need to reopen the cache) [07:34] I guess the metadata are always fetched, just filtered [07:38] didrocks: yeah, the file is already in your cache dir [07:38] didrocks: exactly, its just filtered [07:39] ok, all makes sense [07:39] * didrocks now goes back to put requirementshandler back to 100% of coverage [07:51] k, I'm out for some sport, back around 12 I think [08:03] hey ho [08:03] morning Laney! [09:04] Hi Laney [09:05] hey GunnarHj [09:05] how's it going? [09:05] Laney: It's fine here, thanks. You you are as well. [09:05] hope [09:06] Laney: I had the impression that you were about to upload skype-translation the other day. Anything else that remains to sort out? [09:06] doin' good [09:06] GunnarHj: I asked for some clarification on the license question [09:06] But... nobody replied [09:06] Laney: I did, didn't I? [09:07] this was in #ubuntu-release [09:07] sec, lemme find the log [09:07] Laney: Aha.. [09:09] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/30/%23ubuntu-release.html#t14:24 [09:09] I think it's a question of the translations that were contributed before this statement was added [09:10] I could upload and let someone review in the queue... [09:11] Laney: I see. Yeah, uploading would be some kind of progress, at least... [09:12] let me finish what I'm doing and look at it next [09:12] Laney: Thanks. [09:23] Laney: Just added another clarification to the bug report, that might be relevant. [09:24] GunnarHj: Cheers, that'll be helpful for the archive admin === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [10:42] back [10:42] Laney, hey [10:43] hello seb128 [10:44] good sport? ;-) [10:44] yes! [10:44] I won that game (after loosing twice to the same guy this w.e) [10:45] oh nice [10:45] seems like you are quite even in skill [10:47] yes, that's nice to play like that [10:47] yep [11:42] * didrocks welcomes back sun :) [11:42] didrocks, did you manage to go for exercice? [11:42] it keeps raining here [11:42] seb128: yeah, done! it was just cloudy this morning and now, blue sky [11:42] * seb128 gives the look to Laney, what did you send to us? [11:43] http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2641170 [11:43] me too man [11:47] you don't know what's good for you :) [11:47] * didrocks is enjoying the balconey, again :) [11:51] didrocks, stop it, I start being jaleous! [11:51] ahah [11:52] * didrocks wonders though why coverage mislead itself with an exception… === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:03] sil2100: Hey, did you get anywhere on getting that Trusty Compiz SRU promoted? === greyback is now known as greyback|away === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === greyback|away is now known as greyback === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:15] Laney, did you say you would upload -online-accounts? [14:16] yep [14:16] cool [14:23] kenvandine, hey [14:24] hey seb128 [14:25] kenvandine, you added the phone number in the "about" panel in your libqofono work, but that's not in the design (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AboutThisDevice#Phone) [14:25] oh... that was a patch from pmcgowan [14:25] pmcgowan, ^^ [14:26] the bug says put it somewhere that makes sense, mpt never added to a design [14:26] at least that I am aware of [14:26] seb128, kenvandine ^^ [14:27] what bug? [14:27] pmcgowan, bug #? [14:27] i think it makes sense in the about panel [14:27] k, found it [14:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1221908 [14:27] Ubuntu bug 1221908 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Display device phone number in About panel" [High,Confirmed] [14:28] mpt commented on there [14:28] he suggested that it might be better in the phone panel [14:28] yeah but inconclusive [14:28] but that he's fine with having in any of those panels until they do user research [14:29] yep, I figured folks will find it in about, we'll see [14:29] right [14:29] I've linked the code and bug [14:29] kenvandine, pmcgowan: thanks [14:29] vg [14:29] pmcgowan, that will need to be changed a bit for dual SIM [14:29] yep === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:30] kenvandine, can you "Phone Number" -> "Phone number", we use sentence casing [14:31] seb128, sure [14:33] kenvandine: speaking of libqofono, I hassled sil2100 to forward the patches but he said that one of them was yours [14:33] reckon you could do that or give him the info to do it? ;-) [14:33] I got mine accepted upstream :D [14:33] yes, it's on my TODO list :) [14:33] Just didn't know what kenvandine's was about [14:33] sil2100, rock on! [14:33] sil2100: I saw, good work [14:34] i don't recall what mine was, most of my patch got fixed upstream as well [14:34] which reduced my patch [14:34] adding a service numbers property [14:34] ah... exposing it [14:35] yeah, they left it out as a property [14:35] now i remember === shiznix_ is now known as shiznix [14:39] kenvandine, commented on the mp, some things to fix, one being the autopilot tests that fail in jenkins === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:51] seb128, i'm trying to refresh the pot file [14:51] seb128, how do i do that without getting my full build path in the .pot? [14:55] kenvandine, you get it and you sed :p [14:55] (yes it sucks) [14:55] damn! [14:55] seb128, that is pure evil! [14:55] yeah [14:56] kenvandine, btw usually we don't bother refreshing the pot in mps [14:56] that leads to conflict [14:56] I just commit a pot update directly to trunk when needed [15:00] seb128, oh... rock on! [15:00] :-D [15:03] kenvandine: advertising on irc that you deal with pot all day is not wise ;) [15:05] davmor2, haha [15:10] Laney, the settings' hotspot work is ready to land right? [15:11] seb128: yeah, hidden by default so I'm not bothered really [15:11] k [15:11] apart from wasting translations since the UI isn't final [15:11] Laney, did you want to block your activation fixes on tests btw? [15:11] or should I list that in? [15:11] that's up to you [15:11] I was going to do them soon but got distracted with some travel arrangemenrts [15:12] k, no hurry, let's see if you get that by tomorrow [15:12] should be able to start today still [15:12] the fixes are not that important [15:12] so they can wait the next landing [15:12] it's like "leave u-s-s open, come back to it some time later, stuff is weirdly broken" [15:12] does that lead to 100% cpu usage by side effect? [15:13] because popey opened a bug about that [15:13] not that I noticed... [15:30] hey, it's meeting time! [15:30] hello! [15:31] qengho2, Sweetshark, Laney, desrt, attente, larsu, didrocks, hey, it's meeting time ;-) [15:31] hey! longer list today :) [15:31] no canada day [15:31] yeah [15:32] hey hey [15:32] ok, let's get started [15:32] qengho2, hey [15:33] - releasing Cr update after #webapps approves. [15:33] - hack on mir for chromium. [15:33] - flash packaging in gaps. [15:33] - (wonky network. go to fix that.) [15:33] EOF [15:33] got to [15:34] qengho2, what's the status of the chromium updates? [15:34] we are still on 34 [15:34] I'm happy with it. I asked #webapps to verify they're happy with it. a-a said he'd have an answer about now. [15:35] k, great [15:35] qengho2, thanks [15:35] Sweetshark, welcome back! had good holidays? [15:35] There was a FTBFS, but I got security to backport a new buid-dep. [15:35] seb128: jup [15:35] 4.2.4 sec update and foo (before my vacation), some emergency board work (during my vacation), inbox grinding (after my vacation). prolly more I forgot before the vacation. EOF [15:37] k [15:37] Sweetshark, thanks [15:37] Laney, hey [15:37] yo [15:37] • Mainly poking at displayconfig / gnome-desktop 3.12. I found and fixed a few bugs but there is a race in activation that I haven't solved yet. Kind of given up after spending a fair amount of time on it. I sent a status email outlining my findings but it might be best to fall back to the initial approach. [15:37] • Report an apt bug to mvo and upload the fix (thanks!) [15:37] • Merge zeitgeist [15:37] • Quite a lot of u-s-s reviews and feedback [15:37] • Find/fix some u-s-s bugs relating to D-Bus activation and service timeouts [15:37] • Help firefight broken uss-oa autopkgtests, think they're passing now [15:37] • Help some PES guys with url-dispatcher launching of u-s-s [15:38] FIN [15:39] Laney, did you hear back from robert_ancell about gnome-desktop? [15:39] that transition is annoying [15:40] I'm going to try to ping him, not sure how much work was left on the fallback option he started [15:40] Laney, thanks [15:40] desrt, hey [15:40] hi [15:40] seb128: sorry [15:40] ۞ dconf: fixed an issue where daemons (with no XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and ~ of /nonexistent or similar) would try to create dconf databases and fail: introduced a new 'daemon' profile that doesn't do that and use that if we find that we have a non-writable homedir and no runtime dir [15:40] seb128: didn't, no, all you saw was in the thread [15:40] ۞ gobject: made property deprecations more noisy -- expect to see some of this showing up. may change warnings to messages... [15:40] ۞ gapplication: add idea of 'resource base path' for loading various application resources. will be used for menus, actions, commandline argument schemas, icons, and probably other things [15:40] ۞ gtk: implemented gtk_application_prefers_app_menu() and resource loading for menu files: now all we have to do to get old menus is drop a file called "menus-traditional.ui" into the build (which hopefully we can convince various upstreams about) [15:40] ۞ gdbus: de/serialisation of types like 'ay' was treating each 'y' as a GVariant: so if you send a 50MB message, you create _100 million_ GVariant instances (50 mil for both encode and decode). now we do it in one step -- several orders of magnitude faster [15:41] ۞ glib: gmutex patches are really completely done now, just waiting for a final review.... (larsu?) [15:41] ۞ started work on stream-based XML parser again, looking at larsu's comments -- intend to use this for implementing new action and commandline argument parsers [15:41] ۞ bugs/reviews [15:41] ۩ [15:41] lol [15:41] nice chars ;-) [15:42] * seb128 reads [15:42] * desrt takes his inspiration from Laney [15:42] using custom bullets would annoy me because then tomboy wouldn't treat it as a bulleted list :) [15:42] desrt, gtk_application_prefers_app_menu(), great! [15:42] * didrocks sees blank lines in weekchat [15:42] week indeed [15:43] seb128: the fact that we can drop in our own menus as just another file is also very nice ;) [15:43] weechat* [15:43] :p [15:43] desrt, indeed ;-) [15:43] combined with larsu's headerbar work, i think we're finally in a place where 3.12 won't be a visual regression for us [15:44] great [15:44] oh [15:44] assuming one minor thing: [15:44] we have to drop overlay-scrollbars :) [15:44] I need to check with the unity team what's the status on their side for gtkheaderbars [15:44] again? [15:44] of course... it broke.... again.... [15:44] that happens every cycle it seems :p [15:44] i think attente volunteered (or was volunteered) to fix it [15:44] yeah, larsu told me that it has issues with some (headerbars?) apps [15:45] but like... we could also just drop it :) [15:45] let's see, not a topic we are going to resolve during this meeting [15:45] desrt, thanks ;-) [15:46] ok, next [15:46] attente, hey, your turn ;-) [15:46] hey seb128 [15:46] input source migration from gsettings to accountsservice in u-s-d and u-c-c [15:46] same for i-keyboard, but trying to debug a crash under the greeter, and need to re-write the tests [15:46] todo: store the currently active source index somewhere better than gsettings [15:46] (eof) [15:47] also: did some weekend work with rtcm to help the accountsservice patch for layouts go upstream [15:47] do you have parts of that ready to land? [15:47] it's complicated -- gnome is currently rewriting this area upstream [15:47] give me a ping if you need sponsoring, I try to watch the queue but I might overlook things sometimes [15:48] desrt, rewritting in a way which is compatible with what we do? [15:48] not at all [15:48] seb128: for landing u-c-c and u-s-s? [15:48] :-( [15:48] attente, yes, or accountsservice [15:48] they put it in shell -- which makes sense, considering the display server will control the keyboard [15:48] i imagine we will do the same with mir once we figure out what we want to do for input there [15:48] but the accountsservice stuff is sort of contingent upon its actual use...... [15:48] seb128: the branches for those are ready, but we shouldn't land those until we have the gnome side figured out, as well as the i-keyboard side working [15:49] k [15:49] is there a bug with the summary of the components/changes? [15:49] that could be a good idea to have one [15:50] there are two [15:50] this one one, of course https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63086 [15:50] Freedesktop bug 63086 in general "Add KeyboardLayouts property" [Enhancement,New] [15:50] and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732241 [15:50] Gnome bug 732241 in general "Move user's input sources out of GSettings and into AccountsService" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [15:51] desrt: thanks [15:51] desrt, attente: thanks [15:52] larsu would be next, but he had some appointment so he's not there, I've his update though [15:52] - proposed a theme update: make notebook tabs not have a border and style header bars similarly to title bars [15:52] - tried to finally unify the themes with gtk's new "theme variants" (Adwaita:dark uses that), but that won't work in a backwards-compatible way because gtk2 doesn't know about those [15:52] - looked into dropping theme-related patches in nautilus (no time to build and test yet, but I'll have this ready tomorrow) [15:52] - while on the theme, I tried making overlay-scrollbars work again (setting backgrounds isn't enough for all cases anymore). Thanks to attente for some help there! [15:52] - further assisted push notification guys with the messaging menu [15:52] - reviewed desrt's application resource stuff, as that will help us a lot with adding traditional menus to gnome applications [15:52] - did some other minor code reviews [15:52] the theming stuff was a bit annoying again (stupid notebook css!) [15:52] eof [15:52] [15:53] (I guess it was enough for reading) [15:53] larsu: good work! [15:54] :) [15:54] didrocks, hey ;-) [15:54] (and thanks for the reviews) [15:54] yep! [15:54] * The Android-Studio case work! So, the ubuntu developer tools center install all requirements and add to the launcher what's needed to setup Android Studio on it [15:54] * Work on ensuring it can pass fire tests as well (naming: installing on Seb's computer, an… i386 machine!) and fix corner cases [15:54] * Add a decompressor facility (as a service) as well as figure out the UI/backend workflow to be able to extend to other UIs later on (CLI only implemented for now). [15:54] * Change some APIs and fix/modify/add tests for them [15:54] * Add more test (202 as we speak) [15:54] * Some more MIRing, will do tracker tomorrow morning (finally) [15:54] * Android studio code will need some refactoring as it will share most of the workflow with the eclipse (adt) one. [15:56] ? ;-) [15:56] sure :) [15:56] didrocks, I need to test again to see if you really fixed it for my i386! [15:56] no kip today? [15:56] seb128: heh, I'm sure it is :p [15:57] didrocks, yeah, yeah, I'm waiting to see, I'm sure you organized some other trick, with mvo, to make fun of my i386 config :p [15:57] didrocks, thanks ;-) [15:57] yw! [15:58] ahah, I suffered from that on my additional apt testing [15:58] all because of you! :p [15:58] desrt, no, the support position didn't suit him well so they are looking for somebody else to take that role [15:58] didrocks, you're welcome :p [15:58] heh [15:58] ;-) [15:59] FJKong, hey, around? want to do a status update? [15:59] guess not [15:59] (sorry for not pinging you at the start of the meeting) [15:59] ok, my turn [16:00] • ubuntu-system-settings [16:00] ∘ worked on adding legends to the battery charge curve, fixed some bugs there on the way [16:00] ∘ quite some reviews of changes proposed by others (updates checking battery, libqofono use, background panel redesign, wizard fixes ...) [16:00] ∘ some more bugs triaging and review of design/current version [16:00] ∘ organized some landings [16:00] • helped to unblock some utopic-proposed->utopic migrations (uitk) [16:00] • patch pilot shift [16:00] • reviewed and landed changes to gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas [16:00] • some easy merges and syncs [16:00] ---------- [16:00] I probably forgot some small bits, but the week has been mostly settings reviews and debugging [16:00] [16:01] I don't think I forgot anyone ... is there any other topic to discuss? [16:01] one more note from me [16:01] Here is my part: [16:01] i'm going to be on holiday all of next week: http://ses.ikso.net/2014/sk/ [16:01] - system-config-printer: Updated to 1.4.5. [16:01] - system-config-printer: Working on the s-c-p D-Bus service hanging when searching for downloadable drivers. [16:01] - Mentoring of GSoC students [16:01] - Bugs. [16:01] following that, i'm in CEST until after GUADEC [16:02] tkamppeter, oh, sorry, your name didn't tab complete when we started the meeting, I though you were not around today [16:02] tkamppeter, thanks [16:02] desrt, uuuh, visiting slovakia? [16:02] mhr3: ya. plan to spend a day or two in bratislava too [16:02] you around those parts? [16:02] desrt, enjoy! [16:02] seb128: thx :) [16:02] ok, that's a wrap then [16:03] thanks everyone [16:03] seb128: tkamppeter joined during the meeting actually [16:03] thanks guys! [16:03] desrt, nitra is nice, but you'll run out of things to see after half a day :) nope, i'm in london [16:03] mhr3: still? :p [16:03] didrocks, oh, that explains it! thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy ;-) [16:03] desrt, still :) [16:03] mhr3: most of my time will be spent in "school" [16:03] there are daily lessons all morning [16:04] in the evenings we have some activities planned including trips to neighbouring cities [16:04] mhr3: unlucky ;-) [16:04] and we spend a whole day in banska stiavnica... something about going underground into silver mines or so [16:04] didrocks, seb128, my PC crashed and I had to switch to my laptop, so I was not online in the first minutes of the meeting. [16:04] desrt, yea, i'm sure that will be cool, summer is nice and hot there ;) [16:05] tkamppeter, ok, that explains it then, no worry! [16:05] Laney, shush, it's awesome! :) [16:07] mhr3: hm. i hope they have AC :) [16:07] desrt, in school? pfff, funny guy [16:07] this school is slightly special.... [16:08] they're going to speak to me in a very strange language [16:08] desrt, you mean besides slovak? :) [16:08] i guess slovak will not be too common there [16:09] i'm guessing that english is going to be the unofficial 'second language' [16:09] the list of registered people has ~300 people from all over europe [16:09] and 2 from canada.... [16:09] only one other was crazy enough, it seems :) [16:12] desrt, yep, coming to hot slovakia in middle of june and sitting better part of the day in school without ac... pretty crazy :) [16:12] desrt, mh, ~28 for next week.. lovely [16:12] mhr3: i agree -- but i wanted to try it at least once :) [16:14] desrt, sure, i'm just messing with you, it will be hot, but i'm sure it will be fun enough to forget about that detail... plus surely better than super cold :) [16:14] i'm well-equipped to deal with super-cold :) [16:15] easier to pack your bag if you don't need to though ;) [16:18] true. [16:22] Laney, you and your wrapping ;-) Where do you consider it reasonable to wrap then? [16:22] 80 [16:24] shrug [16:25] Laney, that file goes over that and that's not new from my changes [16:26] I know :( [16:27] * pitti waves good night and prepares for a TV nightshift for GER:BRA :) [16:27] oh erk, -ECHAN, but oh well [16:28] you're allowed to say good night to us too :P [16:28] pitti, good luck! [16:28] seb128: merci ! [16:28] pitti, ECHAN? you don't like us anymore? :-( [16:28] seb128: well, I was meaning to say it someplace else, but it's a good fit here, too :) [16:29] pitti: some brasilians i my timeline had weird prophecies about how that will end ... [16:29] s/i/in/ [16:29] pitti, ;-) [16:29] Sweetshark: well, we can still play for #3 on Saturday [16:29] Sweetshark, 3:1 for ger indeed [16:29] pitti, stop the crazy talk [16:29] pitti, we are going to play for #1 [16:29] ;-) [16:29] but the team will need bodyguards to leave the country alive i fear [16:30] seb128: oh right, "we"! [16:30]