[02:01] <Noskcaj> robert_ancell, Thanks for the reviews
[02:01] <robert_ancell> Noskcaj, np
[02:03] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: Thanks, got sidetracked.
[02:07] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, I know the feeling :)
[04:46] <karlgrz> having a weird problem with microsoft lifecam cinema hd, ubuntu 14.04, and capturing audio and video simultaneously, specifically using guvcview. Cursory web search has yielded nothing helpful. Now I am digging into IRC channels.
[04:47] <karlgrz> Anyone point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.
[04:57] <Noskcaj> karlgrz, #ubuntu is a better place
[04:57] <Noskcaj> !patience
[04:57] <karlgrz> cool, thanks I'll check there
[05:52] <pitti> Good morning
[06:41] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:42] <didrocks> hey seb128
[06:42] <seb128> didrocks, lut ;-)
[06:59] <mvo_> didrocks: hi, sorry that it took so long: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7764061/
[06:59] <didrocks> mvo_: thanks! let me have a look how wrong I was ;) (and thanks for looking without me reminding you ;))
[07:00] <seb128> good morning mvo_ ;-)
[07:00] <didrocks> mvo_: oh, something is calling dpkg from the chroot?
[07:01] <didrocks> apt.apt_pkg.config.set("Dir::Bin::dpkg", self.dpkg) isn't enough?
[07:01] <didrocks> (which was set to the dpkg wrapper with the custom name)
[07:01] <mvo_> didrocks: yeah, python-apt assumes that if you setup a alternative rootdir use want to use the dpkg from there. which is a bug, because it should keep dir::bin::dpkg if the user already has customized it
[07:02] <mvo_> didrocks: you did nothing wrong, the library tried to be too clever
[07:02] <didrocks> ah, so there are some calls missing using the dir::bin:dpkg dir
[07:02] <didrocks> mvo_: thanks! let me have a try :)
[07:04] <didrocks> mvo_: you tried on test_is_bucket_available_foreign_archs(), right? (it stills fails for me)
[07:05] <mvo_> ./runtests tests/small/test_requirements_handler.py:TestRequirementsHandler.test_install_with_foreign_foreign_arch_added
[07:05] <mvo_> 2014-07-08 09:05:07,635 [udtc.network.requirements_handler] INFO: Create a new apt cache
[07:05] <mvo_> Install packages with a foreign arch added ... ok
[07:05] <mvo_> didrocks: let me test the other one
[07:05] <didrocks> ah, the instlal
[07:05] <didrocks> mvo_: if you pull from latest, I added a return on the others
[07:06] <didrocks> mvo_: I wanted to look at the failing-non-foreign related ones
[07:12] <mvo_> didrocks: ok, I'm on it, the other one is failng too
[07:12] <didrocks> mvo_: ah, that makes more sense. Really only look at the available* one, it's way simpler
[07:13] <didrocks> now that dpkg and the name "dpkg", I will avoid mocking get_foreign_archs
[07:28] <didrocks> mvo_: I found it :)
[07:29] <mvo_> oh?
[07:29] <didrocks> mvo_: so, your fix really fixed it
[07:29] <didrocks> but in the refactoring I introduced meanwhile broke the cache refresh (I wasn't reassign the cache with .open())
[07:29] <didrocks> so while you fix it, I break it! :)
[07:29] <mvo_> ok
[07:29] <mvo_> good that its found now
[07:30] <didrocks> mvo_: yeah! thanks a lot for the dpkg thing in dir, I wouldn't have found it :)
[07:30] <mvo_> didrocks: I fixed it upstream so in the future it should honor custom settings better
[07:31] <didrocks> mvo_: excellent! thanks again ;)
[07:32] <didrocks> mvo_: I don't really need to cache.update() after I add the new architecture it seems
[07:32] <didrocks> mvo_: this is expected?
[07:34] <didrocks> (I just need to reopen the cache)
[07:34] <didrocks> I guess the metadata are always fetched, just filtered
[07:38] <mvo_> didrocks: yeah, the file is already in your cache dir
[07:38] <mvo_> didrocks: exactly, its just filtered
[07:39] <didrocks> ok, all makes sense
[07:39]  * didrocks now goes back to put requirementshandler back to 100% of coverage
[07:51] <seb128> k, I'm out for some sport, back around 12 I think
[08:03] <Laney> hey ho
[08:03] <didrocks> morning Laney!
[09:04] <GunnarHj> Hi Laney
[09:05] <Laney> hey GunnarHj
[09:05] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:05] <GunnarHj> Laney: It's fine here, thanks. You you are as well.
[09:05] <GunnarHj> hope
[09:06] <GunnarHj> Laney: I had the impression that you were about to upload skype-translation the other day. Anything else that remains to sort out?
[09:06] <Laney> doin' good
[09:06] <Laney> GunnarHj: I asked for some clarification on the license question
[09:06] <Laney> But... nobody replied
[09:06] <GunnarHj> Laney: I did, didn't I?
[09:07] <Laney> this was in #ubuntu-release
[09:07] <Laney> sec, lemme find the log
[09:07] <GunnarHj> Laney: Aha..
[09:09] <Laney> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/30/%23ubuntu-release.html#t14:24
[09:09] <Laney> I think it's a question of the translations that were contributed before this statement was added
[09:10] <Laney> I could upload and let someone review in the queue...
[09:11] <GunnarHj> Laney: I see. Yeah, uploading would be some kind of progress, at least...
[09:12] <Laney> let me finish what I'm doing and look at it next
[09:12] <GunnarHj> Laney: Thanks.
[09:23] <GunnarHj> Laney: Just added another clarification to the bug report, that might be relevant.
[09:24] <Laney> GunnarHj: Cheers, that'll be helpful for the archive admin
[10:42] <seb128> back
[10:42] <seb128> Laney, hey
[10:43] <Laney> hello seb128
[10:44] <Laney> good sport? ;-)
[10:44] <seb128> yes!
[10:44] <seb128> I won that game (after loosing twice to the same guy this w.e)
[10:45] <Laney> oh nice
[10:45] <Laney> seems like you are quite even in skill
[10:47] <seb128> yes, that's nice to play like that
[10:47] <Laney> yep
[11:42]  * didrocks welcomes back sun :)
[11:42] <seb128> didrocks, did you manage to go for exercice?
[11:42] <seb128> it keeps raining here
[11:42] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, done! it was just cloudy this morning and now, blue sky
[11:42]  * seb128 gives the look to Laney, what did you send to us?
[11:43] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2641170
[11:43] <Laney> me too man
[11:47] <didrocks> you don't know what's good for you :)
[11:47]  * didrocks is enjoying the balconey, again :)
[11:51] <seb128> didrocks, stop it, I start being jaleous!
[11:51] <didrocks> ahah
[11:52]  * didrocks wonders though why coverage mislead itself with an exception…
[12:03] <ChrisTownsend> sil2100: Hey, did you get anywhere on getting that Trusty Compiz SRU promoted?
[14:15] <seb128> Laney, did you say you would upload -online-accounts?
[14:16] <Laney> yep
[14:16] <seb128> cool
[14:23] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[14:24] <kenvandine> hey seb128
[14:25] <seb128> kenvandine, you added the phone number in the "about" panel in your libqofono work, but that's not in the design (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AboutThisDevice#Phone)
[14:25] <kenvandine> oh... that was a patch from pmcgowan
[14:25] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, ^^
[14:26] <pmcgowan> the bug says put it somewhere that makes sense, mpt never added to a design
[14:26] <pmcgowan> at least that I am aware of
[14:26] <pmcgowan> seb128, kenvandine ^^
[14:27] <seb128> what bug?
[14:27] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, bug #?
[14:27] <kenvandine> i think it makes sense in the about panel
[14:27] <seb128> k, found it
[14:27] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1221908
[14:28] <seb128> mpt commented on there
[14:28] <seb128> he suggested that it might be better in the phone panel
[14:28] <pmcgowan> yeah but inconclusive
[14:28] <seb128> but that he's fine with having in any of those panels until they do user research
[14:29] <pmcgowan> yep, I figured folks will find it in about, we'll see
[14:29] <seb128> right
[14:29] <seb128> I've linked the code and bug
[14:29] <seb128> kenvandine, pmcgowan: thanks
[14:29] <pmcgowan> vg
[14:29] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, that will need to be changed a bit for dual SIM
[14:29] <pmcgowan> yep
[14:30] <seb128> kenvandine, can you "Phone Number" -> "Phone number", we use sentence casing
[14:31] <kenvandine> seb128, sure
[14:33] <Laney> kenvandine: speaking of libqofono, I hassled sil2100 to forward the patches but he said that one of them was yours
[14:33] <Laney> reckon you could do that or give him the info to do it? ;-)
[14:33] <sil2100> I got mine accepted upstream :D
[14:33] <kenvandine> yes, it's on my TODO list :)
[14:33] <sil2100> Just didn't know what kenvandine's was about
[14:33] <kenvandine> sil2100, rock on!
[14:33] <Laney> sil2100: I saw, good work
[14:34] <kenvandine> i don't recall what mine was, most of my patch got fixed upstream as well
[14:34] <kenvandine> which reduced my patch
[14:34] <Laney> adding a service numbers property
[14:34] <kenvandine> ah... exposing it
[14:35] <kenvandine> yeah, they left it out as a property
[14:35] <kenvandine> now i remember
[14:39] <seb128> kenvandine, commented on the mp, some things to fix, one being the autopilot tests that fail in jenkins
[14:51] <kenvandine> seb128, i'm trying to refresh the pot file
[14:51] <kenvandine> seb128, how do i do that without getting my full build path in the .pot?
[14:55] <seb128> kenvandine, you get it and you sed :p
[14:55] <seb128> (yes it sucks)
[14:55] <kenvandine> damn!
[14:55] <kenvandine> seb128, that is pure evil!
[14:55] <seb128> yeah
[14:56] <seb128> kenvandine, btw usually we don't bother refreshing the pot in mps
[14:56] <seb128> that leads to conflict
[14:56] <seb128> I just commit a pot update directly to trunk when needed
[15:00] <kenvandine> seb128, oh... rock on!
[15:00] <kenvandine> :-D
[15:03] <davmor2> kenvandine: advertising on irc that you deal with pot all day is not wise ;)
[15:05] <kenvandine> davmor2, haha
[15:10] <seb128> Laney, the settings' hotspot work is ready to land right?
[15:11] <Laney> seb128: yeah, hidden by default so I'm not bothered really
[15:11] <seb128> k
[15:11] <Laney> apart from wasting translations since the UI isn't final
[15:11] <seb128> Laney, did you want to block your activation fixes on tests btw?
[15:11] <seb128> or should I list that in?
[15:11] <Laney> that's up to you
[15:11] <Laney> I was going to do them soon but got distracted with some travel arrangemenrts
[15:12] <seb128> k, no hurry, let's see if you get that by tomorrow
[15:12] <Laney> should be able to start today still
[15:12] <seb128> the fixes are not that important
[15:12] <seb128> so they can wait the next landing
[15:12] <Laney> it's like "leave u-s-s open, come back to it some time later, stuff is weirdly broken"
[15:12] <seb128> does that lead to 100% cpu usage by side effect?
[15:13] <seb128> because popey opened a bug about that
[15:13] <Laney> not that I noticed...
[15:30] <seb128> hey, it's meeting time!
[15:30] <desrt> hello!
[15:31] <seb128> qengho2, Sweetshark, Laney, desrt, attente, larsu, didrocks, hey, it's meeting time ;-)
[15:31] <didrocks> hey! longer list today :)
[15:31] <desrt> no canada day
[15:31] <seb128> yeah
[15:32] <qengho2> hey hey
[15:32] <seb128> ok, let's get started
[15:32] <seb128> qengho2, hey
[15:33] <qengho2> - releasing Cr update after #webapps approves.
[15:33] <qengho2> - hack on mir for chromium.
[15:33] <qengho2> - flash packaging in gaps.
[15:33] <qengho2> - (wonky network. go to fix that.)
[15:33] <qengho2> EOF
[15:33] <qengho2> got to
[15:34] <seb128> qengho2, what's the status of the chromium updates?
[15:34] <seb128> we are still on 34
[15:34] <qengho2> I'm happy with it. I asked #webapps to verify they're happy with it. a-a said he'd have an answer about now.
[15:35] <seb128> k, great
[15:35] <seb128> qengho2, thanks
[15:35] <seb128> Sweetshark, welcome back! had good holidays?
[15:35] <qengho2> There was a FTBFS, but I got security to backport a new buid-dep.
[15:35] <Sweetshark> seb128: jup
[15:35] <Sweetshark> 4.2.4 sec update and foo (before my vacation), some emergency board work (during my vacation), inbox grinding (after my vacation). prolly more I forgot before the vacation. EOF
[15:37] <seb128> k
[15:37] <seb128> Sweetshark, thanks
[15:37] <seb128> Laney, hey
[15:37] <Laney> yo
[15:37] <Laney> • Mainly poking at displayconfig / gnome-desktop 3.12. I found and fixed a few bugs but there is a race in activation that I haven't solved yet. Kind of given up after spending a fair amount of time on it. I sent a status email outlining my findings but it might be best to fall back to the initial approach.
[15:37] <Laney> • Report an apt bug to mvo and upload the fix (thanks!)
[15:37] <Laney> • Merge zeitgeist
[15:37] <Laney> • Quite a lot of u-s-s reviews and feedback
[15:37] <Laney> • Find/fix some u-s-s bugs relating to D-Bus activation and service timeouts
[15:37] <Laney> • Help firefight broken uss-oa autopkgtests, think they're passing now
[15:37] <Laney> • Help some PES guys with url-dispatcher launching of u-s-s
[15:38] <Laney> FIN
[15:39] <seb128> Laney, did you hear back from robert_ancell about gnome-desktop?
[15:39] <seb128> that transition is annoying
[15:40] <seb128> I'm going to try to ping him, not sure how much work was left on the fallback option he started
[15:40] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:40] <seb128> desrt, hey
[15:40] <desrt> hi
[15:40] <Laney> seb128: sorry
[15:40] <desrt>  ۞  dconf: fixed an issue where daemons (with no XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and ~ of /nonexistent or similar) would try to create dconf databases and fail: introduced a new 'daemon' profile that doesn't do that and use that if we find that we have a non-writable homedir and no runtime dir
[15:40] <Laney> seb128: didn't, no, all you saw was in the thread
[15:40] <desrt>  ۞  gobject: made property deprecations more noisy -- expect to see some of this showing up.  may change warnings to messages...
[15:40] <desrt>  ۞  gapplication: add idea of 'resource base path' for loading various application resources.  will be used for menus, actions, commandline argument schemas, icons, and probably other things
[15:40] <desrt>  ۞  gtk: implemented gtk_application_prefers_app_menu() and resource loading for menu files: now all we have to do to get old menus is drop a file called "menus-traditional.ui" into the build (which hopefully we can convince various upstreams about)
[15:40] <desrt>  ۞  gdbus: de/serialisation of types like 'ay' was treating each 'y' as a GVariant: so if you send a 50MB message, you create _100 million_ GVariant instances (50 mil for both encode and decode).  now we do it in one step -- several orders of magnitude faster
[15:41] <desrt>  ۞  glib: gmutex patches are really completely done now, just waiting for a final review.... (larsu?)
[15:41] <desrt>  ۞  started work on stream-based XML parser again, looking at larsu's comments -- intend to use this for implementing new action and commandline argument parsers
[15:41] <desrt>  ۞  bugs/reviews
[15:41] <desrt>  ۩
[15:41] <seb128> lol
[15:41] <seb128> nice chars ;-)
[15:42]  * seb128 reads
[15:42]  * desrt takes his inspiration from Laney 
[15:42] <Laney> using custom bullets would annoy me because then tomboy wouldn't treat it as a bulleted list :)
[15:42] <seb128> desrt, gtk_application_prefers_app_menu(), great!
[15:42]  * didrocks sees blank lines in weekchat
[15:42] <Laney> week indeed
[15:43] <desrt> seb128: the fact that we can drop in our own menus as just another file is also very nice ;)
[15:43] <didrocks> weechat*
[15:43] <didrocks> :p
[15:43] <seb128> desrt, indeed ;-)
[15:43] <desrt> combined with larsu's headerbar work, i think we're finally in a place where 3.12 won't be a visual regression for us
[15:44] <seb128> great
[15:44] <desrt> oh
[15:44] <desrt> assuming one minor thing:
[15:44] <desrt> we have to drop overlay-scrollbars :)
[15:44] <seb128> I need to check with the unity team what's the status on their side for gtkheaderbars
[15:44] <seb128> again?
[15:44] <desrt> of course... it broke.... again....
[15:44] <seb128> that happens every cycle it seems :p
[15:44] <desrt> i think attente volunteered (or was volunteered) to fix it
[15:44] <seb128> yeah, larsu told me that it has issues with some (headerbars?) apps
[15:45] <desrt> but like... we could also just drop it :)
[15:45] <seb128> let's see, not a topic we are going to resolve during this meeting
[15:45] <seb128> desrt, thanks ;-)
[15:46] <seb128> ok, next
[15:46] <seb128> attente, hey, your turn ;-)
[15:46] <attente> hey seb128
[15:46] <attente> input source migration from gsettings to accountsservice in u-s-d and u-c-c
[15:46] <attente> same for i-keyboard, but trying to debug a crash under the greeter, and need to re-write the tests
[15:46] <attente> todo: store the currently active source index somewhere better than gsettings
[15:46] <attente> (eof)
[15:47] <desrt> also: did some weekend work with rtcm to help the accountsservice patch for layouts go upstream
[15:47] <seb128> do you have parts of that ready to land?
[15:47] <desrt> it's complicated -- gnome is currently rewriting this area upstream
[15:47] <seb128> give me a ping if you need sponsoring, I try to watch the queue but I might overlook things sometimes
[15:48] <seb128> desrt, rewritting in a way which is compatible with what we do?
[15:48] <desrt> not at all
[15:48] <attente> seb128: for landing u-c-c and u-s-s?
[15:48] <seb128> :-(
[15:48] <seb128> attente, yes, or accountsservice
[15:48] <desrt> they put it in shell -- which makes sense, considering the display server will control the keyboard
[15:48] <desrt> i imagine we will do the same with mir once we figure out what we want to do for input there
[15:48] <desrt> but the accountsservice stuff is sort of contingent upon its actual use......
[15:48] <attente> seb128: the branches for those are ready, but we shouldn't land those until we have the gnome side figured out, as well as the i-keyboard side working
[15:49] <seb128> k
[15:49] <seb128> is there a bug with the summary of the components/changes?
[15:49] <seb128> that could be a good idea to have one
[15:50] <desrt> there are two
[15:50] <desrt> this one one, of course https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63086
[15:50] <desrt> and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732241
[15:51] <attente> desrt: thanks
[15:51] <seb128> desrt, attente: thanks
[15:52] <seb128> larsu would be next, but he had some appointment so he's not there, I've his update though
[15:52] <seb128>  - proposed a theme update: make notebook tabs not have a border and style header bars similarly to title bars
[15:52] <seb128>  - tried to finally unify the themes with gtk's new "theme variants" (Adwaita:dark uses that), but that won't work in a backwards-compatible way because gtk2 doesn't know about those
[15:52] <seb128>  - looked into dropping theme-related patches in nautilus (no time to build and test yet, but I'll have this ready tomorrow)
[15:52] <seb128>  - while on the theme, I tried making overlay-scrollbars work again (setting backgrounds isn't enough for all cases anymore). Thanks to attente for some help there!
[15:52] <seb128>  - further assisted push notification guys with the messaging menu
[15:52] <seb128>  - reviewed desrt's application resource stuff, as that will help us a lot with adding traditional menus to gnome applications
[15:52] <seb128>  - did some other minor code reviews
[15:52] <seb128>  the theming stuff was a bit annoying again (stupid notebook css!)
[15:52] <seb128>  eof
[15:52] <seb128>  
[15:53] <seb128> (I guess it was enough for reading)
[15:53] <desrt> larsu: good work!
[15:54] <desrt> :)
[15:54] <seb128> didrocks, hey ;-)
[15:54] <desrt> (and thanks for the reviews)
[15:54] <didrocks> yep!
[15:54] <didrocks> * The Android-Studio case work! So, the ubuntu developer tools center install all requirements and add to the launcher what's needed to setup Android Studio on it
[15:54] <didrocks> * Work on ensuring it can pass fire tests as well (naming: installing on Seb's computer, an… i386 machine!) and fix corner cases
[15:54] <didrocks> * Add a decompressor facility (as a service) as well as figure out the UI/backend workflow to be able to extend to other UIs later on (CLI only implemented for now).
[15:54] <didrocks> * Change some APIs and fix/modify/add tests for them
[15:54] <didrocks> * Add more test (202 as we speak)
[15:54] <didrocks> * Some more MIRing, will do tracker tomorrow morning (finally)
[15:54] <didrocks> * Android studio code will need some refactoring as it will share most of the workflow with the eclipse (adt) one.
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[15:56] <didrocks> sure :)
[15:56] <seb128> didrocks, I need to test again to see if you really fixed it for my i386!
[15:56] <desrt> no kip today?
[15:56] <didrocks> seb128: heh, I'm sure it is :p
[15:57] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, yeah, I'm waiting to see, I'm sure you organized some other trick, with mvo, to make fun of my i386 config :p
[15:57] <seb128> didrocks, thanks ;-)
[15:57] <didrocks> yw!
[15:58] <didrocks> ahah, I suffered from that on my additional apt testing
[15:58] <didrocks> all because of you! :p
[15:58] <seb128> desrt, no, the support position didn't suit him well so they are looking for somebody else to take that role
[15:58] <seb128> didrocks, you're welcome :p
[15:58] <didrocks> heh
[15:58] <seb128> ;-)
[15:59] <seb128> FJKong, hey, around? want to do a status update?
[15:59] <seb128> guess not
[15:59] <seb128> (sorry for not pinging you at the start of the meeting)
[15:59] <seb128> ok, my turn
[16:00] <seb128> • ubuntu-system-settings
[16:00] <seb128> ∘ worked on adding legends to the battery charge curve, fixed some bugs there on the way
[16:00] <seb128> ∘ quite some reviews of changes proposed by others (updates checking battery, libqofono use, background panel redesign, wizard fixes ...)
[16:00] <seb128> ∘ some more bugs triaging and review of design/current version
[16:00] <seb128> ∘ organized some landings
[16:00] <seb128> • helped to unblock some utopic-proposed->utopic migrations (uitk)
[16:00] <seb128> • patch pilot shift
[16:00] <seb128> • reviewed and landed changes to gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas
[16:00] <seb128> • some easy merges and syncs
[16:00] <seb128> ----------
[16:00] <seb128> I probably forgot some small bits, but the week has been mostly settings reviews and debugging
[16:00] <seb128>  
[16:01] <seb128> I don't think I forgot anyone ... is there any other topic to discuss?
[16:01] <desrt> one more note from me
[16:01] <tkamppeter> Here is my part:
[16:01] <desrt> i'm going to be on holiday all of next week: http://ses.ikso.net/2014/sk/
[16:01] <tkamppeter> - system-config-printer: Updated to 1.4.5.
[16:01] <tkamppeter> - system-config-printer: Working on the s-c-p D-Bus service hanging when searching for downloadable drivers.
[16:01] <tkamppeter> - Mentoring of GSoC students
[16:01] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[16:01] <desrt> following that, i'm in CEST until after GUADEC
[16:02] <seb128> tkamppeter, oh, sorry, your name didn't tab complete when we started the meeting, I though you were not around today
[16:02] <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks
[16:02] <mhr3> desrt, uuuh, visiting slovakia?
[16:02] <desrt> mhr3: ya.  plan to spend a day or two in bratislava too
[16:02] <desrt> you around those parts?
[16:02] <seb128> desrt, enjoy!
[16:02] <desrt> seb128: thx :)
[16:02] <seb128> ok, that's a wrap then
[16:03] <seb128> thanks everyone
[16:03] <didrocks> seb128: tkamppeter joined during the meeting actually
[16:03] <didrocks> thanks guys!
[16:03] <mhr3> desrt, nitra is nice, but you'll run out of things to see after half a day :) nope, i'm in london
[16:03] <desrt> mhr3: still? :p
[16:03] <seb128> didrocks, oh, that explains it! thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy ;-)
[16:03] <mhr3> desrt, still :)
[16:03] <desrt> mhr3: most of my time will be spent in "school"
[16:03] <desrt> there are daily lessons all morning
[16:04] <desrt> in the evenings we have some activities planned including trips to neighbouring cities
[16:04] <Laney> mhr3: unlucky ;-)
[16:04] <desrt> and we spend a whole day in banska stiavnica... something about going underground into silver mines or so
[16:04] <tkamppeter> didrocks, seb128, my PC crashed and I had to switch to my laptop, so I was not online in the first minutes of the meeting.
[16:04] <mhr3> desrt, yea, i'm sure that will be cool, summer is nice and hot there ;)
[16:05] <seb128> tkamppeter, ok, that explains it then, no worry!
[16:05] <mhr3> Laney, shush, it's awesome! :)
[16:07] <desrt> mhr3: hm.  i hope they have AC :)
[16:07] <mhr3> desrt, in school? pfff, funny guy
[16:07] <desrt> this school is slightly special....
[16:08] <desrt> they're going to speak to me in a very strange language
[16:08] <mhr3> desrt, you mean besides slovak? :)
[16:08] <desrt> i guess slovak will not be too common there
[16:09] <desrt> i'm guessing that english is going to be the unofficial 'second language'
[16:09] <desrt> the list of registered people has ~300 people from all over europe
[16:09] <desrt> and 2 from canada....
[16:09] <desrt> only one other was crazy enough, it seems :)
[16:12] <mhr3> desrt, yep, coming to hot slovakia in middle of june and sitting better part of the day in school without ac... pretty crazy :)
[16:12] <mhr3> desrt, mh, ~28 for next week.. lovely
[16:12] <desrt> mhr3: i agree -- but i wanted to try it at least once :)
[16:14] <mhr3> desrt, sure, i'm just messing with you, it will be hot, but i'm sure it will be fun enough to forget about that detail... plus surely better than super cold :)
[16:14] <desrt> i'm well-equipped to deal with super-cold :)
[16:15] <mhr3> easier to pack your bag if you don't need to though ;)
[16:18] <desrt> true.
[16:22] <seb128> Laney, you and your wrapping ;-) Where do you consider it reasonable to wrap then?
[16:22] <Laney> 80
[16:24] <seb128> shrug
[16:25] <seb128> Laney, that file goes over that and that's not new from my changes
[16:26] <Laney> I know :(
[16:27]  * pitti waves good night and prepares for a TV nightshift for GER:BRA :)
[16:27] <pitti> oh erk, -ECHAN, but oh well
[16:28] <Laney> you're allowed to say good night to us too :P
[16:28] <seb128> pitti, good luck!
[16:28] <pitti> seb128: merci !
[16:28] <seb128> pitti, ECHAN? you don't like us anymore? :-(
[16:28] <pitti> seb128: well, I was meaning to say it someplace else, but it's a good fit here, too :)
[16:29] <Sweetshark> pitti: some brasilians i my timeline had weird prophecies about how that will end ...
[16:29] <Sweetshark> s/i/in/
[16:29] <seb128> pitti, ;-)
[16:29] <pitti> Sweetshark: well, we can still play for #3 on Saturday
[16:29] <ogra_> Sweetshark, 3:1 for ger indeed
[16:29] <seb128> pitti, stop the crazy talk
[16:29] <seb128> pitti, we are going to play for #1
[16:29] <seb128> ;-)
[16:29] <ogra_> but the team will need bodyguards to leave the country alive i fear
[16:30] <pitti> seb128: oh right, "we"!
[16:30] <seb128> pitti, ja!
[16:30] <pitti> seb128: trinkst Du dann heute auch ein Bier?
[16:30]  * ogra_ hugs seb128 
[16:31] <seb128> pitti, nein, mehr Bier!
[16:31] <pitti> seb128: richtig!
[16:31]  * seb128 hugs the german team 
[16:31] <ogra_> :D
[16:31]  * pitti hugs seb128 and tosses him a Schlandschal
[16:31] <ogra_> lol
[16:31] <seb128> ;-)
[16:32] <Sweetshark> lol
[16:56] <seb128> Laney, is https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/battery-draw-x-text-1289460/+merge/225856 enough wrapping or do you prefer more? i've no strong opinion on the topic, I just tried to wrap on "," and not in middle of calculations
[16:56] <Laney> seb128: don't worry about it too much
[16:56] <Laney> the other issue was more important
[16:58] <seb128> right, should be good now (I tested on the n4, goes from display fine to don't display without having a case where it's cut)
[16:59] <seb128> I could perhaps have spared some computations with a scale, but we need the margins for the width anyway, and as you wrote, it's done and working ... we can always simplify another day
[16:59] <seb128> Laney, in any case it's ready for review
[17:00] <Laney> okay, I'll do that tomorrow morning
[17:00] <seb128> great, thanks
[18:43] <bregma> anyone here know how to query and control the screen power state from the command line?
[18:44] <sarnold> bregma: xset q to query, xset -dpms or xset +dpms or other similar things to set..
[18:44] <bregma> xset isn't going to help me without an X server, I'm looking for something more fundamental
[18:47] <sarnold> ah, are you using fbconsole or vga modes?
[18:47] <sarnold> (not that I know the answer then, sorry, but maybe someone else would know :)
[18:47] <bregma> I'm running Unity 8 and I have an ssh connection... eventually, the screen gets shut off by something and I want to be able to turn it back on
[18:48] <bregma> Unity 8 just isn't ready for desktop power management features
[20:15] <Sarvatt> bregma: consoleblank=0 kernel parameter, or setterm -blank
[20:21] <bregma> Sarvatt, thanks, turns out I need to disable a new feature in the Mir server otherwise it will go ahead and shut of my screen after 60 seconds no matter what