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rick_h__kind of cool https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/YiyqTmjr4pG01:35
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/Jj35dX - The highlights from the fireworks show this weekend at Lost Lake Woods club.…01:35
rick_h__first time doing fireworks shots and some of them came out awesome. Best viewed big and zoomed in on the explosions01:35
cmaloneyVery cool02:53
cmaloneyAlso: Evening02:53
rick_h__party02:54
rick_h__and night02:58
cmaloneyg'night02:58
rick_h__morning11:22
cmaloneyGood morning12:16
mrgoodcatmorn12:44
rick_h__ugh, the email it burns! it burns!12:44
brouschYou're not supposed to let it get in your eyes!12:46
brouschNow you need to flush your system with large quantities of alcohol12:49
rick_h__hah, sounds like a plan12:49
jrwreng morning12:55
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cmaloneyGood morning13:29
cmaloneyrick_h__: That's what threading is for.13:29
cmaloneyAnd CTRL-D in Mutt. ;)13:29
mrgoodcatwhat's that? delete all?13:44
rick_h__delete thread13:44
jrwrenand here I am thinking pthreads.13:46
mrgoodcati just use gmail. i know the privacy gods are going to torture me for eternnity in hell but I really don't care. it's so convenient13:47
smoserjrwren, bah.15:10
smoseri learn of your joining through reading mailing list15:10
smosercongrats and welcome to canonical15:10
greg-gWHAT?!15:10
greg-gand *I* learn through IRC?!15:11
greg-gSECOND HAND?!15:11
mrgoodcathow could it possibly be that everybody finds out after me?15:12
jrwrensmoser: you might also learn when you get a hiring bonus :p15:12
mrgoodcati don't even know jrwren15:12
jrwrensmoser: since you were the first person to ask me, I listed you.15:12
cmaloneymrgoodcat: You need to come to MUG more often15:13
smosersweet!15:13
greg-gjrwren: congrats, what's the position?15:13
jrwrengreg-g: juju stuff.15:14
mrgoodcatsmoser: did you go to Lahser?15:14
mrgoodcatfor high school15:15
greg-gjrwren: not rick's team though?15:15
jrwrengreg-g: not exactly. rick's team is spawning a new one, so working very close with rick_h__15:15
greg-ginteresting15:15
greg-gsmoser: are you juju now too? I forget what you're working on. The only keyword in my head still is "server" :)15:16
mrgoodcatrick_h__'s team was getting really big from what i understand15:16
greg-gI get to get my own team soon, officially. Right now I'm not anyone's official manager, even though I manage them.15:17
jrwrengreg-g: make them call you mr. manager15:18
jrwrengreg-g: or big boss man15:18
greg-gMy boss/manager has ~23 direct reports, I'll be taking 7 of them15:18
mrgoodcatsmoser: your nick is reminding me of someone that i once knew, but I can't remember where from... The name Sara Moser is just stuck in my head every time I see your nick15:18
smoserno one i know by that name.15:19
smosergreg-g, no. i'm "Ubuntu Server and Openstack"15:19
greg-gsmoser: cool, we use your work then :)15:19
smoserwoot.15:19
greg-gmaybe, unless we do too much roll-your-own15:19
greg-gwe're OpenStack on Ubuntu, either way15:20
greg-g(for our "Labs" infrastructure, not our production servers, mind)15:20
greg-gsmoser: see the right coloumn, the Labs one: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page15:20
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/iss1y6 - Wikitech15:20
mrgoodcatsmoser: worth a shot15:21
cmaloneybtw: new Open Metalcast is up. :)15:30
greg-gI still need to listen to the last instrumental cast15:32
cmaloneyNo worries. It's not like they're going anywhere. :)15:33
mrgoodcatunless Microsoft seizes your domain15:46
greg-gluckily he hosts his shows on archive.org :)15:48
cmaloney;)15:56
cmaloneyThat's part of the reason I host there. a) It's free, and b) It'll likely outlive me15:57
brouschmrgoodcat: Did you watch Dexter? Moser was Dexter's original last name15:57
mrgoodcatno. actually i found the sara moser I know on facebook. She did go to high school with me16:50
mrgoodcatI just thought you should all know that this amazing thing exists https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad?ref=discovery17:21
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/dQz7J6 - Potato Salad by Zack Danger Brown — Kickstarter17:21
greg-gjumped the shark17:22
brouschI don't understand that at all17:45
brouschWhy are people giving him money? They don't even get the potato salad17:45
mrgoodcatyes they do. for 3$ you get a bite17:52
brouschI assume you have to get yourself to the kitchen17:52
mrgoodcathe didn't specify. also, he's throwing a pizza party in columbus ohio17:53
greg-git's fucking dumb and it's mocking (appropriately, it seems) the relaxation of Kickstarter's review process17:58
greg-giow: Kickstarter doesnt' care about the shit on their site, as long as they get their fee+cut17:58
brouschShould they care?17:59
brouschAs long as it's not illegal17:59
rick_h__it's something that the more fluff, false promises, etc they make the more likely the site goes down in flames over time18:00
greg-gbrousch: define illegal. raising money is a highly regulated thing18:00
greg-geg: there's a reason it's not an investing (ie: own a share of) a company18:01
greg-g...site.18:01
cmaloneyhttp://spiralmountain.bandcamp.com/album/sycophant-exile-welcome-home?from=fanpub_fb18:24
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/oUy1bU - Sycophant / Exile, Welcome Home | Spiralmountain18:24
mrgoodcatsamsung factory robbed at gunpoint for $35M in product18:26
cmaloney.np squeekyhoho18:26
bookiebotsqueekyhoho's current track - Hateful by Muldjord on The Color of My Soul18:26
mrgoodcatin brazil18:26
cmaloneymrgoodcat: WOw18:26
mrgoodcathttp://9to5google.com/2014/07/07/samsung-factory-robbed-at-gunpoint-36-million-in-smartphones-tablets-and-laptops-stolen/18:26
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/51EFn5 - Samsung factory robbed at gunpoint, $36 million in smartphones, tablets and laptops stolen | 9to5Google18:26
cmaloneyGood to hear nobody was hurt18:28
mrgoodcat> steal phone18:28
mrgoodcat> sell phone18:28
mrgoodcat> kickstart potato salad with the proceeds18:28
cmaloneyI'll be very surprised if those phones aren't somehow traced back to the perpetrators18:28
mrgoodcatthat's what i was thinking18:28
cmaloneyI'm amazed at what talented folks can produce by themselves.18:33
cmaloneywas re: Muldjord18:33
mrgoodcatanybody play with xiki yet?18:39
greg-glmorchard23: hey, what do you all use for video conferencing at Mozilla?19:01
greg-glmorchard23: google is, apparently, not even pretending to care about anything other than Chrome for Hangouts, and we (WMF) use hangouts (too much). I'm looking for an alternative for my team19:02
lmorchard23We've been using Vidyo for the past couple of years.19:02
lmorchard23But that's like an on-site installed server & such, if I recall19:02
* greg-g nods19:02
greg-gand still proprietary19:02
lmorchard23Yeah, I think Hangouts are based on Vidyo somehow, but my memory's fuzzy on that19:03
lmorchard23I'm also hoping we manage to do something with webrtc19:03
greg-gthat's what the WP article tells me19:03
* greg-g nods19:03
greg-gyou'd think you all would :P19:03
greg-gwe (WMF) might be willing to throw some time/effort/maybe even money at a solution if it's FLOSS19:03
lmorchard23Problem is we have lots of meetings with 5-20 attendees, and that gets hairy fast19:04
greg-gyeah19:04
greg-gthe P2P webrtc just doesn't work (TM)19:04
lmorchard23person-to-person is one thing :)19:04
greg-gneeds to have a beefy central server to handle the bandwidth issues19:04
lmorchard23Yeah, and vidyo almost just barely doesn't manage that19:04
greg-gwe tried one of the P2P webrtc solutions and as soon as a person on a really slow connection joined it went to shit19:05
lmorchard23Oof19:05
cmaloneyugh19:06
greg-gyou have to push your audio/video to each participant, cuz, you know19:07
greg-g:(19:07
lmorchard23All-the-peers-to-all-the-peers19:08
lmorchard23What could go wrong?19:08
greg-g:)19:08
greg-gmulticast!19:08
rick_h__fire them!19:10
rick_h__no slow connections allwoed19:11
greg-grick_h__: community!19:21
cmaloneyCHecking out some Rogers Gourmet Coffee and Tea K-cups.19:22
cmaloney$1.99 for a 3 cup sampler.19:22
cmaloneygreg-g: Any experience with them?19:22
* rick_h__ sends a mocha pot to cmaloney 19:22
rick_h__moka pot that is19:23
cmaloneyrick_h__: Yeah, I need to clean out my Melita19:23
greg-gcmaloney: nope19:29
cmaloneygreg-g: No worries.19:29
cmaloneySaw some near our Keurig machine and didn't get the nerve up to try them.19:29
cmaloneybut the design looked interesting19:29
brouschI got a french press at home. I'm surprised how much better the coffee is from it compared to drip or immersion19:30
cmaloneybrousch: Oh I totally know that the Keurig is the "wrong way" to get coffee19:31
brouschIt takes 8 minutes to heat the water and make the coffee though19:32
brouschKeurig is what? 2 minutes?19:32
cmaloneyDepends on if it's primed yet or not19:32
cmaloneyCan be as long as 5 mintues or as short as 30 seconds.19:32
waldo323brousch: regarding pyohio, I'm looking to get a room at the varsity or spring hill, do you have a recommendation for which to choose?21:16
cmaloneyrick_h__: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Z4ZzlmxIyd0/U7xWUBhwuEI/AAAAAAAAHXo/jLf_dJ_kQZw/w705-h763-no/portland-weird-nude-cyclist.jpg21:18
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/hbXbYO - image/jpeg21:18
waldo323That doesn't sound safe for work21:19
mrgoodcatgreg-g: is hangouts buggy on firefox?21:25
greg-gmrgoodcat: yes21:25
mrgoodcatdidn't know that21:26
greg-ggo to http://www.google.com/hangouts/ click on computer21:26
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/80bru - Google+ Hangouts – Google Hangouts21:26
mrgoodcati use chrome so i'm not usually aware of these things21:26
greg-gHangouts won't work in your current browser21:26
greg-gYou'll need to download Chrome before installing Hangouts here.21:26
mrgoodcatoh really?21:26
mrgoodcatwell at least they're honest about it21:26
greg-gyet another reason to be annoyed with Google21:26
greg-gway to 'get' open source, fuckers21:27
mrgoodcatidk. you'd have to install some program or other to get a competing solution as well21:27
mrgoodcatjust because their program is also a web browser doesn't make it bad21:27
mrgoodcatwhat bout chromium?21:27
greg-gwhat about it21:27
mrgoodcatjust wondering if it requires chrome or if chromium works as well21:28
akellingkind of lame it does not work with firefox....21:28
mrgoodcatsince some people don't like the proprietary aspects of chrome21:28
akellingI take it the android/iPad apps work fine21:28
greg-git works with Firefox, I just got off a call21:28
greg-gbut, they are basically saying "we no longer want to support Firefox"21:29
mrgoodcatoh21:29
mrgoodcati thought you were saying it doesn't work at all21:29
greg-gand, just like Gerrit, they dont' care about anything other than their own tools21:29
greg-gwhich is fine, it'll just make us move away from Gerrit (already in progress) and hangouts (beginning)21:29
akellingHangouts won't work in your current browser21:29
akellingYou'll need to download Chrome before installing Hangouts here.21:29
akellingDo you want to download Chrome now?21:29
akellingwhat I am getting on my Mac with firefox21:29
greg-git works, just got off a call with Iceweasel :)21:29
mrgoodcatso did you just use the video call button in g+ or something?21:31
greg-gif you click on a url to a hangout you're invited to, it works21:35
mrgoodcatah21:36
mrgoodcati'm sure cisco would be very happy to sell you a ridculously overpriced "solution"21:36
mrgoodcatalthough WMF would have to switch to cisco, not just your team21:37
greg-gwe won't21:37
greg-gwe'll be investing time into something else21:38
mrgoodcatlet us know if you find anything that works for more than 10 people in a call21:39
* greg-g nods21:39
akellingWill the mug meeting be streaming a hangout tonight?21:41
mrgoodcati think they always do21:43
mrgoodcatand they put them here https://plus.google.com/+MugOrgPage/videos21:44
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/Rva4VE - Michigan!/Usr/Group - Videos - Google+21:44
akellingYea knew they where on Youtube never thought to look at the plus page under videos too21:45
akellingI will do that tonight instead of driving up there this time. bbl need to run to the store for dinner21:46
mrgoodcatnew haskell homepage http://new-www.haskell.org/22:45
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/Qz8Hau - Haskell Language22:45
waldo323Looks like we won't have a Google hangout for mug this month but we will get the video on YouTube afterwards22:46
akellingOkay I will just have to catch it later then22:47
jrwrengamerchick02: i installed ubuntu on my mac!23:56
jrwrennot even usb stick.23:56
jrwrenI have to admit, I really really like it.23:56

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