[01:35] <rick_h__> kind of cool https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/YiyqTmjr4pG
[01:35] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Jj35dX - The highlights from the fireworks show this weekend at Lost Lake Woods club.…
[01:35] <rick_h__> first time doing fireworks shots and some of them came out awesome. Best viewed big and zoomed in on the explosions
[02:53] <cmaloney> Very cool
[02:53] <cmaloney> Also: Evening
[02:54] <rick_h__> party
[02:58] <rick_h__> and night
[02:58] <cmaloney> g'night
[11:22] <rick_h__> morning
[12:16] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:44] <mrgoodcat> morn
[12:44] <rick_h__> ugh, the email it burns! it burns!
[12:46] <brousch> You're not supposed to let it get in your eyes!
[12:49] <brousch> Now you need to flush your system with large quantities of alcohol
[12:49] <rick_h__> hah, sounds like a plan
[12:55] <jrwren> g morning
[13:29] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:29] <cmaloney> rick_h__: That's what threading is for.
[13:29] <cmaloney> And CTRL-D in Mutt. ;)
[13:44] <mrgoodcat> what's that? delete all?
[13:44] <rick_h__> delete thread
[13:46] <jrwren> and here I am thinking pthreads.
[13:47] <mrgoodcat> i just use gmail. i know the privacy gods are going to torture me for eternnity in hell but I really don't care. it's so convenient
[15:10] <smoser> jrwren, bah.
[15:10] <smoser> i learn of your joining through reading mailing list
[15:10] <smoser> congrats and welcome to canonical
[15:10] <greg-g> WHAT?!
[15:11] <greg-g> and *I* learn through IRC?!
[15:11] <greg-g> SECOND HAND?!
[15:12] <mrgoodcat> how could it possibly be that everybody finds out after me?
[15:12] <jrwren> smoser: you might also learn when you get a hiring bonus :p
[15:12] <mrgoodcat> i don't even know jrwren
[15:12] <jrwren> smoser: since you were the first person to ask me, I listed you.
[15:13] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: You need to come to MUG more often
[15:13] <smoser> sweet!
[15:13] <greg-g> jrwren: congrats, what's the position?
[15:14] <jrwren> greg-g: juju stuff.
[15:14] <mrgoodcat> smoser: did you go to Lahser?
[15:15] <mrgoodcat> for high school
[15:15] <greg-g> jrwren: not rick's team though?
[15:15] <jrwren> greg-g: not exactly. rick's team is spawning a new one, so working very close with rick_h__
[15:15] <greg-g> interesting
[15:16] <greg-g> smoser: are you juju now too? I forget what you're working on. The only keyword in my head still is "server" :)
[15:16] <mrgoodcat> rick_h__'s team was getting really big from what i understand
[15:17] <greg-g> I get to get my own team soon, officially. Right now I'm not anyone's official manager, even though I manage them.
[15:18] <jrwren> greg-g: make them call you mr. manager
[15:18] <jrwren> greg-g: or big boss man
[15:18] <greg-g> My boss/manager has ~23 direct reports, I'll be taking 7 of them
[15:18] <mrgoodcat> smoser: your nick is reminding me of someone that i once knew, but I can't remember where from... The name Sara Moser is just stuck in my head every time I see your nick
[15:19] <smoser> no one i know by that name.
[15:19] <smoser> greg-g, no. i'm "Ubuntu Server and Openstack"
[15:19] <greg-g> smoser: cool, we use your work then :)
[15:19] <smoser> woot.
[15:19] <greg-g> maybe, unless we do too much roll-your-own
[15:20] <greg-g> we're OpenStack on Ubuntu, either way
[15:20] <greg-g> (for our "Labs" infrastructure, not our production servers, mind)
[15:20] <greg-g> smoser: see the right coloumn, the Labs one: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[15:20] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/iss1y6 - Wikitech
[15:21] <mrgoodcat> smoser: worth a shot
[15:30] <cmaloney> btw: new Open Metalcast is up. :)
[15:32] <greg-g> I still need to listen to the last instrumental cast
[15:33] <cmaloney> No worries. It's not like they're going anywhere. :)
[15:46] <mrgoodcat> unless Microsoft seizes your domain
[15:48] <greg-g> luckily he hosts his shows on archive.org :)
[15:56] <cmaloney> ;)
[15:57] <cmaloney> That's part of the reason I host there. a) It's free, and b) It'll likely outlive me
[15:57] <brousch> mrgoodcat: Did you watch Dexter? Moser was Dexter's original last name
[16:50] <mrgoodcat> no. actually i found the sara moser I know on facebook. She did go to high school with me
[17:21] <mrgoodcat> I just thought you should all know that this amazing thing exists https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad?ref=discovery
[17:21] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/dQz7J6 - Potato Salad by Zack Danger Brown — Kickstarter
[17:22] <greg-g> jumped the shark
[17:45] <brousch> I don't understand that at all
[17:45] <brousch> Why are people giving him money? They don't even get the potato salad
[17:52] <mrgoodcat> yes they do. for 3$ you get a bite
[17:52] <brousch> I assume you have to get yourself to the kitchen
[17:53] <mrgoodcat> he didn't specify. also, he's throwing a pizza party in columbus ohio
[17:58] <greg-g> it's fucking dumb and it's mocking (appropriately, it seems) the relaxation of Kickstarter's review process
[17:58] <greg-g> iow: Kickstarter doesnt' care about the shit on their site, as long as they get their fee+cut
[17:59] <brousch> Should they care?
[17:59] <brousch> As long as it's not illegal
[18:00] <rick_h__> it's something that the more fluff, false promises, etc they make the more likely the site goes down in flames over time
[18:00] <greg-g> brousch: define illegal. raising money is a highly regulated thing
[18:01] <greg-g> eg: there's a reason it's not an investing (ie: own a share of) a company
[18:01] <greg-g> ...site.
[18:24] <cmaloney> http://spiralmountain.bandcamp.com/album/sycophant-exile-welcome-home?from=fanpub_fb
[18:24] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/oUy1bU - Sycophant / Exile, Welcome Home | Spiralmountain
[18:26] <mrgoodcat> samsung factory robbed at gunpoint for $35M in product
[18:26] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[18:26] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Hateful by Muldjord on The Color of My Soul
[18:26] <mrgoodcat> in brazil
[18:26] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: WOw
[18:26] <mrgoodcat> http://9to5google.com/2014/07/07/samsung-factory-robbed-at-gunpoint-36-million-in-smartphones-tablets-and-laptops-stolen/
[18:26] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/51EFn5 - Samsung factory robbed at gunpoint, $36 million in smartphones, tablets and laptops stolen | 9to5Google
[18:28] <cmaloney> Good to hear nobody was hurt
[18:28] <mrgoodcat> > steal phone
[18:28] <mrgoodcat> > sell phone
[18:28] <mrgoodcat> > kickstart potato salad with the proceeds
[18:28] <cmaloney> I'll be very surprised if those phones aren't somehow traced back to the perpetrators
[18:28] <mrgoodcat> that's what i was thinking
[18:33] <cmaloney> I'm amazed at what talented folks can produce by themselves.
[18:33] <cmaloney> was re: Muldjord
[18:39] <mrgoodcat> anybody play with xiki yet?
[19:01] <greg-g> lmorchard23: hey, what do you all use for video conferencing at Mozilla?
[19:02] <greg-g> lmorchard23: google is, apparently, not even pretending to care about anything other than Chrome for Hangouts, and we (WMF) use hangouts (too much). I'm looking for an alternative for my team
[19:02] <lmorchard23> We've been using Vidyo for the past couple of years.
[19:02] <lmorchard23> But that's like an on-site installed server & such, if I recall
[19:02]  * greg-g nods
[19:02] <greg-g> and still proprietary
[19:03] <lmorchard23> Yeah, I think Hangouts are based on Vidyo somehow, but my memory's fuzzy on that
[19:03] <lmorchard23> I'm also hoping we manage to do something with webrtc
[19:03] <greg-g> that's what the WP article tells me
[19:03]  * greg-g nods
[19:03] <greg-g> you'd think you all would :P
[19:03] <greg-g> we (WMF) might be willing to throw some time/effort/maybe even money at a solution if it's FLOSS
[19:04] <lmorchard23> Problem is we have lots of meetings with 5-20 attendees, and that gets hairy fast
[19:04] <greg-g> yeah
[19:04] <greg-g> the P2P webrtc just doesn't work (TM)
[19:04] <lmorchard23> person-to-person is one thing :)
[19:04] <greg-g> needs to have a beefy central server to handle the bandwidth issues
[19:04] <lmorchard23> Yeah, and vidyo almost just barely doesn't manage that
[19:05] <greg-g> we tried one of the P2P webrtc solutions and as soon as a person on a really slow connection joined it went to shit
[19:05] <lmorchard23> Oof
[19:06] <cmaloney> ugh
[19:07] <greg-g> you have to push your audio/video to each participant, cuz, you know
[19:07] <greg-g> :(
[19:08] <lmorchard23> All-the-peers-to-all-the-peers
[19:08] <lmorchard23> What could go wrong?
[19:08] <greg-g> :)
[19:08] <greg-g> multicast!
[19:10] <rick_h__> fire them!
[19:11] <rick_h__> no slow connections allwoed
[19:21] <greg-g> rick_h__: community!
[19:22] <cmaloney> CHecking out some Rogers Gourmet Coffee and Tea K-cups.
[19:22] <cmaloney> $1.99 for a 3 cup sampler.
[19:22] <cmaloney> greg-g: Any experience with them?
[19:22]  * rick_h__ sends a mocha pot to cmaloney 
[19:23] <rick_h__> moka pot that is
[19:23] <cmaloney> rick_h__: Yeah, I need to clean out my Melita
[19:29] <greg-g> cmaloney: nope
[19:29] <cmaloney> greg-g: No worries.
[19:29] <cmaloney> Saw some near our Keurig machine and didn't get the nerve up to try them.
[19:29] <cmaloney> but the design looked interesting
[19:30] <brousch> I got a french press at home. I'm surprised how much better the coffee is from it compared to drip or immersion
[19:31] <cmaloney> brousch: Oh I totally know that the Keurig is the "wrong way" to get coffee
[19:32] <brousch> It takes 8 minutes to heat the water and make the coffee though
[19:32] <brousch> Keurig is what? 2 minutes?
[19:32] <cmaloney> Depends on if it's primed yet or not
[19:32] <cmaloney> Can be as long as 5 mintues or as short as 30 seconds.
[21:16] <waldo323> brousch: regarding pyohio, I'm looking to get a room at the varsity or spring hill, do you have a recommendation for which to choose?
[21:18] <cmaloney> rick_h__: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Z4ZzlmxIyd0/U7xWUBhwuEI/AAAAAAAAHXo/jLf_dJ_kQZw/w705-h763-no/portland-weird-nude-cyclist.jpg
[21:18] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/hbXbYO - image/jpeg
[21:19] <waldo323> That doesn't sound safe for work
[21:25] <mrgoodcat> greg-g: is hangouts buggy on firefox?
[21:25] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: yes
[21:26] <mrgoodcat> didn't know that
[21:26] <greg-g> go to http://www.google.com/hangouts/ click on computer
[21:26] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/80bru - Google+ Hangouts â Google Hangouts
[21:26] <mrgoodcat> i use chrome so i'm not usually aware of these things
[21:26] <greg-g> Hangouts won't work in your current browser
[21:26] <greg-g> You'll need to download Chrome before installing Hangouts here.
[21:26] <mrgoodcat> oh really?
[21:26] <mrgoodcat> well at least they're honest about it
[21:26] <greg-g> yet another reason to be annoyed with Google
[21:27] <greg-g> way to 'get' open source, fuckers
[21:27] <mrgoodcat> idk. you'd have to install some program or other to get a competing solution as well
[21:27] <mrgoodcat> just because their program is also a web browser doesn't make it bad
[21:27] <mrgoodcat> what bout chromium?
[21:27] <greg-g> what about it
[21:28] <mrgoodcat> just wondering if it requires chrome or if chromium works as well
[21:28] <akelling> kind of lame it does not work with firefox....
[21:28] <mrgoodcat> since some people don't like the proprietary aspects of chrome
[21:28] <akelling> I take it the android/iPad apps work fine
[21:28] <greg-g> it works with Firefox, I just got off a call
[21:29] <greg-g> but, they are basically saying "we no longer want to support Firefox"
[21:29] <mrgoodcat> oh
[21:29] <mrgoodcat> i thought you were saying it doesn't work at all
[21:29] <greg-g> and, just like Gerrit, they dont' care about anything other than their own tools
[21:29] <greg-g> which is fine, it'll just make us move away from Gerrit (already in progress) and hangouts (beginning)
[21:29] <akelling> Hangouts won't work in your current browser
[21:29] <akelling> You'll need to download Chrome before installing Hangouts here.
[21:29] <akelling> Do you want to download Chrome now?
[21:29] <akelling> what I am getting on my Mac with firefox
[21:29] <greg-g> it works, just got off a call with Iceweasel :)
[21:31] <mrgoodcat> so did you just use the video call button in g+ or something?
[21:35] <greg-g> if you click on a url to a hangout you're invited to, it works
[21:36] <mrgoodcat> ah
[21:36] <mrgoodcat> i'm sure cisco would be very happy to sell you a ridculously overpriced "solution"
[21:37] <mrgoodcat> although WMF would have to switch to cisco, not just your team
[21:37] <greg-g> we won't
[21:38] <greg-g> we'll be investing time into something else
[21:39] <mrgoodcat> let us know if you find anything that works for more than 10 people in a call
[21:39]  * greg-g nods
[21:41] <akelling> Will the mug meeting be streaming a hangout tonight?
[21:43] <mrgoodcat> i think they always do
[21:44] <mrgoodcat> and they put them here https://plus.google.com/+MugOrgPage/videos
[21:44] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Rva4VE - Michigan!/Usr/Group - Videos - Google+
[21:45] <akelling> Yea knew they where on Youtube never thought to look at the plus page under videos too
[21:46] <akelling> I will do that tonight instead of driving up there this time. bbl need to run to the store for dinner
[22:45] <mrgoodcat> new haskell homepage http://new-www.haskell.org/
[22:45] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Qz8Hau - Haskell Language
[22:46] <waldo323> Looks like we won't have a Google hangout for mug this month but we will get the video on YouTube afterwards
[22:47] <akelling> Okay I will just have to catch it later then
[23:56] <jrwren> gamerchick02: i installed ubuntu on my mac!
[23:56] <jrwren> not even usb stick.
[23:56] <jrwren> I have to admit, I really really like it.