[00:01] <neldogz> Hi all, I am trying to recreate an issue by breaking grub on a  working test system so that I can try to repair it on a production server. Is there an easy way to create a boot failure which will take me into >Grub recovery upon bootup?
[00:02] <AlexPortable> is there a wine dchannel?
[00:02] <reisio> neldogz: can we just fix the production one instead? :p
[00:02] <reisio> AlexPortable: /msg alis list *wine*
[00:02] <holstein> AlexPortable: yes.. it is mentioned in the link i shared
[00:02] <holstein> !wine | AlexPortable
[00:03] <holstein> as pre the text in the links, you can /join #winehq
[00:03] <neldogz> reisio, its a remote server that I don't have console access to.. so i am trying to put together a series of steps that will boot the server from the grub recovery menu
[00:03] <AlexPortable> ah thanks
[00:03] <AlexPortable> why not #wine
[00:03] <holstein> AlexPortable: but, as i said, there is a list already on the site you should consult
[00:03] <reisio> neldogz: what good would that do?
[00:03] <AlexPortable> yes the site says it works fine
[00:03] <holstein> AlexPortable: /join what channels you like. i gave the wine support link
[00:03] <reisio> AlexPortable: probably 'cause they couldn't get wine.org
[00:04] <reisio> ...'cause 'wine' is a stupid name for something
[00:04] <AlexPortable> ah
[00:04] <neldogz> reisio, i will then pass the instructions to a guy on site
[00:04] <AlexPortable> well this is freenode
[00:04] <AlexPortable> so wine is foss
[00:04] <reisio> neldogz: :/
[00:04] <AlexPortable> so no need for hq behind it
[00:04] <reisio> neldogz: you just hold SHIFT and the grub menu appears
[00:04] <reisio> neldogz: should say there how to get to a console
[00:04] <holstein> AlexPortable: the channel for the wine team is listed above. you can ask them about it
[00:04] <reisio> AlexPortable: freenode... not the sanest place in the world
[00:05] <neldogz> reisio, whats a sure fire way to screw up grub?
[00:05] <reisio> but also, people name their channels what they want, not what freenode wants, for the most part
[00:05] <reisio> neldogz: hit the box with a sledgehammer
[00:05] <neldogz> :)
[00:05] <reisio> wait wait
[00:06] <reisio> neldogz: tell it that it's better than everyone else for its entire childhood :p
[00:07] <neldogz> can i just delete /etc/grub.d
[00:08] <holstein> neldogz: in what context?
[00:09] <neldogz> holstein, i am trying to intentionally screw up grub so that i can then fix it
[00:09] <neldogz> or at least try to fix it from >Grub
[00:09] <adamcunnington> How do i stop my windows partitions from showing (mounting) in ubuntu?
[00:10] <adamcunnington> I assume there is a better way than just ejecting them (unmounting) each time i log on
[00:16] <Apteryx> Hello! I think the last updates (or maybe it was me messing around with Asterisk PBX) nuked my sound. I can get it using sudo alsa force-reload but it doesn't hold after a reboot...
[00:17] <Apteryx> I only have a dummy output in the sound preferences dialog.
[00:19] <BenjiThaGuy> hello
[00:20] <Apteryx> hi!
[00:20] <BenjiThaGuy> so i have a problem using ubuntu on VirtualBox
[00:20] <Apteryx> BenjiThaGuy: What is it?
[00:20] <BenjiThaGuy> i was able to install ubuntu in and login perfectly. Apteryx
[00:21] <BenjiThaGuy> *no in
[00:21] <BenjiThaGuy> whoops brb
[00:21] <BenjiThaGuy> hold my question lol
[00:21] <Apteryx> BenjiThaGuy: alright, lol
[00:23] <get52> Hi
[00:26] <Leeuwenhok> I was upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04 using the updater app but the laptop lost power mid-way. Then I was told to run "sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" by some fellow members. That completed successfully, but how do I complete the upgrade process?
[00:26] <get52> u dunt
[00:26] <get52> ur fukd lee
[00:26] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: i would fresh install 14.04
[00:26] <holstein> get52: please dont
[00:27] <Leeuwenhok> Maybe I'd do that, but I need to get deeper into this.
[00:27] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: are you showing you are on 13.10 or 14.04?
[00:27] <Leeuwenhok> The laptop didn't restart, so yeah, it's still 13.10.
[00:27] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: not really.. its bad to disrupt upgrades.. its not something that will get your any real experience to fix that.. you can try the upgrade again..
[00:27] <Leeuwenhok> Should I check the software updater to see what it says?
[00:27] <Leeuwenhok> I wonder why I was given those commands...
[00:28] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: thats the ones to run and troubleshoot errors
[00:28] <Leeuwenhok> Those commands downloaded/replaces/set up/install stuff.
[00:29] <Leeuwenhok> Software Updater says the computer needs to restart to finish installing updates.
[00:30] <Leeuwenhok> I'll do that and be back.
[00:30] <BenjiThaGuy> apteryx: are you still here?
[00:30] <BenjiThaGuy> anyway
[00:30] <BenjiThaGuy> so
[00:30] <holstein> wow.. i would have liked to have suggested waiting for the restart..
[00:31] <BenjiThaGuy> lol
[00:32] <BenjiThaGuy> my ubuntu installed perfectly on VirtualBox
[00:32] <BenjiThaGuy> and i can login
[00:32] <BenjiThaGuy> but i can only see a what seems to be the middle of the ubuntu desktop when logged in
[00:32] <BenjiThaGuy> anyone know how to fix this?
[00:33] <holstein> blueingress: i would want to check for 3d passthrough, or just run something that doesnt need 3d.. something like xubuntu with xfce, or lubuntu with lxde.. arguably more appropriate for virtulizing
[00:33] <holstein> blueingress: sorry .. BenjiThaGuy ^
[00:35] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein: I'll try that. ty
[00:36] <bazoz2zag> hello, soooo, my root partition (sdais broken : i saved (dd) sda on sdb when it was working, and now, after messing with acer/windows recovery to correct some errors on the
[00:36] <bazoz2zag> hey, sorry, broken sentence.
[00:37] <bazoz2zag> soooo, my root partition (sda4) is broken : i saved (dd) sda on sdb when it was working, and now, after messing with acer/windows recovery to correct some errors on sda3, i cant boot on sda4
[00:37] <bazoz2zag> http://pastebin.com/VEhnPAi0
[00:38] <bazoz2zag> badblocks  : 0 errors
[00:38] <joseluis64> I have a problem with ppa-purge, that piece of shit didn't removed any package.
[00:38] <holstein> joseluis64: please watch the language.. do you have an error message?
[00:38] <holstein> !Paste | joseluis64 please paste the command and the error..
[00:39] <joseluis64> a lot
[00:39] <holstein> joseluis64: a lot?
[00:40] <joseluis64> but now I have to add the damn PPA again to redo the operation, I closed my session in order to see if anything was removed
[00:40] <holstein> joseluis64: please watch the language, ok? ..it would be helpful for the volunteers here to see the output
[00:40] <Bashing-om> bazoz2zag: Hate to be the bearer if ill tidings, but 'sda' no longer has an ubuntu partition ( ext4 ) .
[00:41] <joseluis64> and we should be offended by the terrible crimes daily are commited, not by language... but I'll see what I can do
[00:42] <holstein> !language | joseluis64
[00:42] <Booyah> Question
[00:42] <function9> shoot
[00:43] <get52> -Question-
[00:43] <Booyah> Is samba wacked for anyone else in 14.04?
[00:43] <Booyah> I think it's the config file
[00:43] <Booyah> Anyone else reporting this, or?
[00:43] <Shadow}}> Same^ Question: Terminal line for apt-get search && update for AVL? Player? The media, One that can zoom and other functions. Please. Low o ftime.
[00:44] <Loshki> Booyah: I never got that far. Sound wouldn't work for me on 14.04...
[00:44] <somsip> Booyah: samba is working okay for me on 14.04
[00:44] <Shadow}}> *Low on time
[00:44] <adamcunnington> How can I stop my windows partitions auto-mounting within ubuntu?
[00:44] <bazoz2zag> Bashing-om, yeah but, i noticed a weird thing on the start adresses
[00:44] <get52> Guys I have a question
[00:44] <Booyah> We use 14.04 in my pc repair shop
[00:45] <get52> I updated to ubuntu 14.04
[00:45] <Booyah> I can access samba shares
[00:45] <get52> and all I get is a picture of a elderly woman getting raped
[00:45] <get52> Is this the update?
[00:45] <Booyah> get52: suck it faggot
[00:45] <get52> D;
[00:45] <Booyah> As I was saying
[00:45] <Booyah> I can access samba shares
[00:46] <Booyah> But not the files within
[00:46] <Booyah> Permissions are set to everyone
[00:47] <joseluis64> holstein http://paste.ubuntu.com/7762777/
[00:47] <Bashing-om> bazoz2zag: Oh ? What weird thing is that ( still can not replace a non existent partition) ?
[00:47] <Loshki> Does anyone have sound working on a REALTEK AC1200 under 14.04? This worked under 12.04...
[00:48] <joseluis64> I added the KDE 5 frameworks repository, and Installed it, after that output, I still have all that packages in my hard drive.
[00:48] <holstein> joseluis64: i would do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and report errors
[00:49] <holstein> Loshki: should be a backport to support it, but i bet its more a muting issue..
[00:49] <holstein> !audio
[00:49] <bazoz2zag> Bashing-om, seems like extended moved, but that could be acer/windows repair or chkdsk doing some weird stuff... idk..
[00:50] <bazoz2zag> thanks anyways
[00:50] <joseluis64> holstein it didn't remove any package...
[00:51] <Loshki> holstein: I don't think it's muting, the hardware doesn't seem to show up in Sound configuration tool, but I'll work through the docs anyway...
[00:51] <helbal> Does anyone know, how to get work wired connectioon on xubuntu 14.04 with this card? description: Ethernet interface
[00:51] <helbal>        product: RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[00:51] <helbal>        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[00:51] <helbal>        physical id: 0
[00:51] <helbal>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[00:51] <helbal>        logical name: eth0
[00:51] <unopaste> helbal you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[00:51] <Bashing-om> bazoz2zag: Partitioners can and do weird things, the sda4 partition is an exteneded partition, and an 'extended'partition is but a container to hold 'logical' partitions.
[00:51] <Booyah> Kek
[00:52] <holstein> joseluis64: ok.. be sure you let the PPA maintainer know you are having issues.
[00:53] <holstein> Loshki: do you see the device in "aplay -l" ?
[00:53] <orion> Hi. I am running a ubuntu VM instance in VirtualBox, and some software requires me to scan a QR code. I have a PNG of the QR code. The program is trying to read /dev/video0. Is there a way I can create a fake video0 device showing that PNG?
[00:53] <holstein> joseluis64: did the update commands finish without error? how are you seeing if the applications are still there? are you certain they are not just repo versions now?
[00:54] <joseluis64> holstein I can enter into de KDE 5 session
[00:54] <joseluis64> and the last commands finished without errors
[00:54] <joseluis64> *the KDE 5 session
[00:55] <bazoz2zag> orion, it would be easier for me to print it and use a cam
[00:55] <Loshki> helbal: this is old, but might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411
[00:55] <orion> bazoz2zag: I don't have a camera.
[00:55] <helbal> thx, Loshki, gonna try it
[00:56] <Bashing-om> bazoz2zag: As a thought for what you might be able to do: in GParted (liveDVD) create a logical partition within the extended partition, and copy back sdb5 (??).
[00:56] <function9> joseluis64: yeah it's when you start installing themes, that's the true test
[00:56] <joseluis64> function9 I never installed any theme
[00:57] <bazoz2zag> Bashing-om, creating the partition wouldnt wipe it ? or at least mark it as empty ? so, ill do datarecovery anyway (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery)
[00:58] <Loshki> holstein: I do see it in aplay -l, as expected. But in the sound configuration tool, under output, there is no hardware listed...
[00:58] <helbal> Loski: sry, that's I've already passed through and it didn't work.
[00:59] <joseluis64> holstein http://paste.ubuntu.com/7762812/
[00:59] <Leeuwenhok> After the restart, the laptop has booted to the login screen with a background saying 14.04 LTS. Does that mean upgrade completed successfully?
[00:59] <Loshki> helbal: do you know where it failed?
[00:59] <Bashing-om> bazoz2zag: I would expect the current extended partition sda4 is empty. You should be able to create a logical partition within sda4.
[00:59] <holstein> Loshki: i would try 'pavucontrol'.. see if you have more options.. look in alsamixer as well
[00:59] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: almost certainly. Do you have reason to suspect it didn't?
[01:00] <Leeuwenhok> Yeah, I didn't get the faster boot time that I experienced from the LiveUSB.
[01:00] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: you should check your sources and check the kernel.. and the release
[01:01] <Leeuwenhok> Where do I check that?
[01:01] <Loshki> holstein: ok, before I start, can someone point me to an overview telling how alsa, pavu, and pulseaudio all play together.
[01:01] <helbal> NAPI driver too old and doesn't match the kernel key. Then I tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2224262 also with no succes - key match ok, but still no connection
[01:01] <barnex> could someone maybe point me to some generally good defaults for desktop filesystems? I'm thinking more about my raid5+luks+lvm setup, and there seems to be too much information and variables. Chunk size of 64kb seems popular enough for raid5, but I still have no idea about which filesystem would perform best (programming, internet, games) and what block size should I use.
[01:02] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: personally, moving from 12.04 to 14.04, if the boot got faster, it was so little I didn't notice...
[01:02] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/2884/how-can-i-determine-the-version-of-the-running-kernel https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion
[01:03] <barnex> After I know that, I can calculate stride and stripe width.
[01:03] <joseluis64> holstein thankyou for your patience, I found a way to remove all that packages, better than that awful and useless tool that ppa-purge is
[01:03] <barnex> Also I wonder if the block size should match the block size luks is going to use?
[01:04] <Leeuwenhok> Everywhere it says 14.04. But somehow, I'm not satisfied. I might make a short backup and do a clean install.
[01:04] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: i *always* fresh install
[01:04] <Leeuwenhok> Same here.
[01:04] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: ?
[01:04] <Leeuwenhok> This time I did it for experimentation.
[01:04] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: we are not looking at, and talking about an upgrade?
[01:05] <Leeuwenhok> I, too, always do a clean install. This was my first time to upgrade.
[01:05] <Leeuwenhok> My OCD hurts me otherwise.
[01:06] <helbal> cu tomorrow... europe - too lete night to solve the hw problems
[01:06] <zartoosh> Hi I have installed 14.04 on my system. Whenever I type: grep <anything> *  I get the following error : grep: unrecognized option '--verbose'  why?
[01:08] <holstein> zartoosh: what are you trying to do?
[01:11] <zartoosh> holstein,  for example in a directory I do, grep install * and it fails, I did man pages on grep and apparently this is because the "POSIXLY_CORRECT" option is set, I do not know how ?
[01:12] <Leeuwenhok> If I have 3 partitions and I delete the 3rd one, is it possible to add it's capacity to the first one?
[01:12] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: if you're prepared to do a clean install, you've nothing to lose by trying the upgrade first. But I always clean install & just keep the /etc directory around from the previous one...
[01:12] <Leeuwenhok> I already upgraded.
[01:13] <Leeuwenhok> By capacity, I didn't mean the data. I meant the holding capacity. I want to increase the size of the 1st part.
[01:13] <holstein> zartoosh: what are you trying to do?
[01:14] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: you can try in gparted.. i would have my data backedup
[01:14] <Leeuwenhok> I've got nothing to lose.
[01:14] <Bashing-om> Leeuwenhok: Not directly, you would 1st have to mess about with the 2nd partition, moving 2 into what was 3 and then 1 into 2 .. there is a good chance of data loss.
[01:15] <zartoosh> holstein, as I said I just try to use a simple "grep" command and it fails as above, nothing special.
[01:15] <Leeuwenhok> #Bashing-om The chance of data loss is less for the 1st part as compared to the others, right?
[01:15] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: how large is the data?
[01:16] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: you should have your data backedup . partition management like that is tricky.. for the entire drive..
[01:17] <Leeuwenhok> I might delete the 2nd and 3rd parts, 60 GB each. Then I need to resize the 1st part to add 60 GB to it. So I need a resultant 2 parts.
[01:17] <Bashing-om> Leeuwenhok: The greater risk is moving a partition to the left ( the header data in the left side of the partition ). moving the partition table data at the sector level is a risk.
[01:18] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: so, no backups?
[01:18] <Leeuwenhok> And then I have a fourth part, 300 GB, at the end of the HDD. Is there risk of data loss there?
[01:19] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: you need to have *all* data backed up..
[01:19] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: that drive is going to fail, so its not a waste of time
[01:20] <Leeuwenhok> I have it backed up, already. I always back up. Just a few files remaining.
[01:21] <Leeuwenhok> My HDD is going to fail, how do you say that?
[01:21] <nurow> sorry to bother, but could anyone point me to the IRC channel for Linux Deepin?
[01:21] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: ? they all do...
[01:21] <Leeuwenhok> Average lifetime?
[01:21] <Leeuwenhok> I have a couple HDDs that are more than 10  years old. Still intact.
[01:22] <staxxx> Hello everyone! I have a question here. I have two computers at home, one laptop and one desktop. I acess the internet twith the laptop via wifi hotspot. the desktop does not have an internet connection I have also an ethernet cable. It is possible to get internet on the desktop also by connecting it to the laptop via ethernet cable? any help would be very much apreciated. thanks
[01:22] <SchrodingersScat> Leeuwenhok: i think they generally estimate reads/writes?  but only FSM knows for sure, some are dead in a month, others will last for years.
[01:22] <holstein> Leeuwenhok: sure.. me too, and they will *all* fail..
[01:23] <Leeuwenhok> I hope they will... that's the dream. :p
[01:23] <holstein> nurow: i dont see one listed.. http://www.linuxdeepin.com/index.en.html#
[01:23] <obelix_> hi guys
[01:23] <SchrodingersScat> nurow: there's #deepin and also #linuxdeepin
[01:24] <holstein> staxxx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169473/sharing-connection-to-other-pcs-via-wired-ethernet
[01:24] <obelix_> some one know abput openstack vs ovirt??
[01:24] <staxxx> thank you holstein
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> nurow: oh..#linuxdeepin's topic is to go to #deepin ..
[01:25] <nurow> thanks guys. looks like a dead channel >_>
[01:25] <pavlos> zartoosh, did you figure out the grep issue?
[01:26] <zartoosh> pavlos hi all, grep command fails for me here is the: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7762878/
[01:26] <Loshki> nurow: 11 people isn't dead, though it is quiet. It might just have very slow turnover...
[01:27] <Leeuwenhok> Is there anything in the Home folder that I ought to back up? I generally keep my personal files in a separate part.
[01:27] <barnex> Does anyone know if the block size of luks cipher should be equal to the blocksize of the filesystem of top of it?
[01:27] <BenjiThaGuy> hello
[01:27] <pavlos> zartoosh, running 14.04?
[01:27] <zartoosh> pavlos, yes
[01:27] <BenjiThaGuy> i can't insert guest additions cd image because it is unable to insert the virtual optical disc
[01:28] <BenjiThaGuy> anyone know how to fix this?
[01:28] <pavlos> zartoosh, does this work ... ps -ef | grep sync
[01:28] <barnex> And if it doesn't have to be equal, which of those block sizes should I use to calculate my raid stride?
[01:28] <tylero> ill poop on u
[01:28] <Leeuwenhok> :p
[01:28] <Leeuwenhok> ROFL
[01:28] <zartoosh> pavlos, yes it does, it seems there is an issue with wild card *
[01:29] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: depends how you've separated them. There are various config files (e.g. for browsers etc) that usually end up in directories beginning with a dot. If you lose them, you have to do some reconfiguration, which may or may not be cumbersome.
[01:29] <tylero> watch yo lanuage
[01:29] <BenjiThaGuy> anyone?
[01:30] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: its not a disc.. you just mount the image. or, just insatll from the pacakge manger if its an ubuntu guset
[01:30] <Loshki> BenjiThaGuy: are you talking about vmware/virtualbox?
[01:30] <Leeuwenhok> #Loshki Thanks, I'm not afraid of some reconfiguring. I'll do it. Anything else that I should back up?
[01:30] <pavlos> zartoosh, well, if I do grep ls * I get no errors
[01:30] <BenjiThaGuy> loshki virtualbox
[01:30] <tylero> lick my twat
[01:30] <pavlos> zartoosh, weird
[01:30] <Loshki> tylero: wrong group...
[01:31] <zartoosh> pavlos, it seems something is wrong or an environment variable is set in correclty, I have another system with 14.04 and I see no issue either...
[01:31] <BenjiThaGuy> well the reason i needed to do that is because the vm only shows part of the desktop when i login
[01:32] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: do what you like.. is it an ubuntu guest?
[01:32] <tylero>  why yall leaving?
[01:32] <pavlos> zartoosh, ok, I got no more ideas
[01:32] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein: lemme check
[01:32] <Leeuwenhok> I'll be back after a clean install. Hope it goes well.
[01:32] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: I always back up /home and /etc. Actually, I never reformat /home, it has it's own partition. And just to reinforce holstein's point, all disks fail, some without warning. There is no convenient time for a disk failure...
[01:33] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: what is the guest system? what is the host system? is it virtualbox?
[01:33] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein: it is virtualbox
[01:33] <Leeuwenhok> #loshki Alright.
[01:33] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: ok.. thats one down..
[01:33] <tylero> cock
[01:33] <Loshki> BenjiThaGuy: you've done the usual? Tried to open the iso as a virtual disk? What does it say?
[01:33] <Leeuwenhok> What's /etc?
[01:33] <zartoosh> pavlos the man pages of grep refer to POSIXLY_CORRECT option has this error message out ...
[01:33] <pavlos> zartoosh, do you have a file in the dir you're listing that is named '--verbose'
[01:34] <BenjiThaGuy> Loshki lemme cp what it says
[01:34] <zartoosh> pavlos, yes you are genius ...
[01:34] <Bashing-om> Leeuwenhok: /etc/holds system config files.
[01:34] <Leeuwenhok> Okay,thanks.
[01:34] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: /etc is a directory where most of the system config ends up. It's usually small...
[01:34] <wilclefe> kkk
[01:35] <BenjiThaGuy> Loshki: you need what it says when i try to insert guest additions?
[01:35] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: im still waiting on, what is the host and guest os..
[01:35] <zartoosh> pavlos,  now how could i remove it ...
[01:36] <Loshki> BenjiThaGuy: yes, the *exact* text, if it's not very large. Put it in a 'pastebin' at http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:36] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein what do you mean?
[01:36] <BenjiThaGuy> Loshki ok i'm just going to take a screenshot since that is easier
[01:36] <pavlos> zartoosh, you can use rm -i * it will ask you to remove a file or not, say no to all except the --verbose
[01:37] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: you have a machine runing virtualbox, and a machine running inside virtualbox.. what operating systems are they running?
[01:37] <BenjiThaGuy> ohhh
[01:37] <backbox> hey
[01:38] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein: i'm running windows 8.1 on the host os and the latest version of ubuntu on the vm
[01:39] <zartoosh> pavlos, thanks so much
[01:39] <pavlos> zartoosh, np
[01:39] <BenjiThaGuy> Loshki: here you go http://imgur.com/QFOd8cs
[01:40] <eeee> pavlos: zartoosh : that won't work, run rm ./--version
[01:40] <holstein> !Info virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[01:40] <backbox> windows 8.1 it sucks
[01:40] <zartoosh> eeee,  actually yes I had to move it to a subdirectory and remove it that way. Thanks
[01:41] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein: do i need to type that somewhere?
[01:42] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: no,, im proposing the packages are in the repos..
[01:42] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: i would open the guest, and search virtualbox in a package manager..
[01:43] <backbox> looking for a specialist in autocad......?
[01:43] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein: ok. I'll try that and report back. ty
[01:43] <backbox> SolidWorks ?
[01:44] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein: how do you search in a package manager?
[01:44] <Loshki> BenjiThaGuy: it says VERR_PDM_MEDIA_LOCKED. Try this: http://maheshhika.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/virtual-box-verr_pdm_media_locked/
[01:45] <adamcunnington> How do i mount just 1 folder within a UUID? i.e. i just want to mount a part of a partition
[01:45] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/GuestAdditions
[01:45] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: specifically.. sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[01:45] <BenjiThaGuy> ty
[01:45] <Loshki> adamcunnington: which folder?
[01:46] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein well i can't access the terminal
[01:46] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: ok.. what can you access?
[01:46] <adamcunnington> Loshki: Documents and Settings/blah for example
[01:46] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein nothing. all i see is this: http://imgur.com/XiEOWRY
[01:46] <Leeuwenhok> I'm at the install screen, setting up wireless. Every time I enter my wifi pass and press enter, it returns me to the "Authentication required by Wifi network" windows. The wifi network is fine, I just tried it on another computer.
[01:46] <holstein> !tty | BenjiThaGuy
[01:47] <adamcunnington> Loshki: i've got so far; UUID=<blah> /media/Windows8 ntfs-3g defaults, dir_mode=0755, file_mode=0644 0 0
[01:47] <holstein> BenjiThaGuy: or, from the boot screen, in the guest.. you can access recovery..
[01:47] <adamcunnington> Loshki: i want to only mount a part of the UUID though, not the entire thing
[01:47] <Loshki> adamcunnington: I don't think you can mount an individual file. The closest you can get is to the "Documents and Settings" directory and look inside it...
[01:47] <Loshki> "is to the" -> "is to mount the"
[01:48] <adamcunnington> Loshki: i want to mount a directory, never said a file
[01:48] <BenjiThaGuy> ty holstein
[01:48] <adamcunnington> Loshki: but how would i specify which folder within my above UUID
[01:48] <obelix_> thank you bill gates for windows
[01:49] <Loshki> adamcunnington: ah, so you did. Instead of /media/windows8 you want /media/windows8/.../Documents and Settings  where you fill in the "..." with the path to the directory.
[01:50] <adamcunnington> Loshki: huh? but that is just the mount location, my point is i only want to mount a certain part of the UUID
[01:50] <Leeuwenhok> Nevermind, restarting worked.
[01:50] <BenjiThaGuy> holstein: It worked! ty
[01:50] <Loshki> adamcunnington: oh, wait. I think I got that wrong. Let me check my fstab.
[01:52] <Loshki> adamcunnington: Hmm. I don't think it can be done the way you want. How about mounting the volume as normal, and then planting links to the directory you want to access?
[01:53] <Loshki> adamcunnington: over nfs, you can mount any part of the directory tree. That's what confused me.
[01:54] <adamcunnington> Loshki: i think you can mount just a dir, someone was saying the other day
[01:54] <adamcunnington> does anyone else know?
[01:54] <Leeuwenhok> I've got 120 GB free space between 2 partitions. How do I part this for use for Ubuntu?
[01:54] <holstein> !partitioning
[01:54] <adamcunnington> holstein: can i mount just 1 dir within a UUID?
[01:54] <adamcunnington> automatically via fstab
[01:54] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: what do you plan to install, overall?
[01:57] <zartoosh> hi I want to install another instance of ubuntu on the same ssd. I have done that by paritioning my disk, to sda1 (efi loader), sda2 (first ubuntu),  sda3 (second ubuntu), sda4 (swap).  The second instance of ubuntu was install with debootstrap, now how can I configure the grub to boot the second instance of ubuntu in uefi mode? thx
[01:57] <Loshki> adamcunnington: I don't think so. I'd love to be proved wrong, though. See also, "mount --bind" which lets you set up aliases.
[01:58] <histo> adamcunnington: no you are looking for a bind mount, allows you to mount a  directory that's visible elsewhere
[01:59] <Leeuwenhok> I have Windows on the first part, stuff on the second part (downloads mainly). and 120 GB free space in between. I'd like Ubuntu at the "end" of this 120 GB so that it uses only about 60 GB. I'd later add the rest of the free space to the 1st part.
[01:59] <adamcunnington> histo: so i'd have to mount it somewhere random and then just bind 1 folder and have that at a more obvious mounting point?
[01:59] <adamcunnington> histo: actually i can hide the main mount, would a bind still work?
[01:59] <adamcunnington> although i'm finding that the 99-hide-disks.rules isn't working
[02:00] <histo> adamcunnington: yeah I don't know about the whole random part but sure.
[02:00] <Loshki> adamcunnington: yep, same solution as I proposed, except using bind instead of planting a link...
[02:00] <adamcunnington> Loshki: ok fair enough, my bad
[02:00] <adamcunnington> thanks guys, will look more into this tomorrow
[02:00] <histo> Leeuwenhok: so create a partion in the free space 60GB in length then install ubuntu to the remaining freespace
[02:00] <Loshki> adamcunnington: no problem, good luck
[02:01] <histo> !mount | adamcunnington
[02:01] <Leeuwenhok> @histo Great idea. Can Ubuntu automatically set up the parts required on the free space?
[02:02] <histo> Leeuwenhok: Not automagically. But it will walk you through it.  Don't you already have ubuntu installed?
[02:03] <Leeuwenhok> Yes, but I just deleted all those "Ubuntu" parts. Should I revert?
[02:04] <histo> Leeuwenhok: Why did you delete the ubuntu parts?
[02:05] <histo> Leeuwenhok: you can resize and move partitions in gparted
[02:05] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: I like to create 3 partitions, / and /home and swap. That way, only / needs to be touched during an upgrade.
[02:05] <Leeuwenhok> Because I want to move them to the right of the HDD.
[02:06] <histo> Leeuwenhok: move them within gparted
[02:06] <Leeuwenhok> Does LiveUSB have gparted?
[02:06] <histo> Leeuwenhok: if not you can apt-get install gparted
[02:06] <Leeuwenhok> I'd have to exit setup for that?
[02:07] <histo> Leeuwenhok: No but I would revert your changes in setup if you want to try
[02:07] <Leeuwenhok> Great.
[02:07] <histo> Leeuwenhok: if you already starting writing to the drive, then it's going to be a no go.
[02:08] <Leeuwenhok> I'm out of the installation. Pressing "Try Ubuntu" now.
[02:09] <Leeuwenhok> Ubuntu already has gparted. So no need for apt-get, right?
[02:09] <Loshki> Leeuwenhok: correct, just run gparted
[02:12] <Leeuwenhok> I have 2 60 GB parts. One has Mint and the other has Ubuntu. The contents of both look identical to me. How do I know which one's which?
[02:19] <Riobe> Sorry to keep coming in here with the same issue, but I haven't been able to solve it and I'm hoping a new pastebin will help. My USB keeps dying, starting with my mouse, and eventually getting followed up by my keyboard. I went to syslog directly after it died this time and found these call traces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7763058/ (That's a tail -400 /var/log/syslog/) Can anyone help me read it? If I could find a guide or something to work
[02:19] <Riobe>  on to fix this I'd happily go do that too. I found a bunch of posts on the ubuntu forums similar to my issue, but none with answers to solve it.
[02:20] <Leeuwenhok> I'd like a recommendation. I'm dedicating 60 GB to Ubuntu. What is the recommended scheme?
[02:20] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok / 10 gigs  /swap = 2 x ram  /home the remainder is how I did mine
[02:22] <SchrodingersScat> Riobe: have you seen any of the threads with similar syslogs?
[02:23] <Riobe> SchrodingersScat, I've found forum threads with similar syslogs, yes. I just can't find one with an answer. I'm off reading http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8093 now to just try to figure out how the USB stuff works on Linux so I can have a start of an idea of how to troubleshoot it.
[02:23] <Riobe> Any ideas would be absolutely wonderful.
[02:26] <Leeuwenhok_> Sorry, I got disconnected. So what is the recommended partition scheme? I've got 60 GB to dedicate to Ubuntu. My RAM is 4 GB.
[02:27] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok_ filesystem = 10 gig ram = 8 gig remainder for /home
[02:27] <cfhowlett> !ymmv|Leeuwenhok_
[02:28] <Leeuwenhok_> !wfm
[02:28] <kurion> Hi all,  I looked online but couldn't find a direct answer; is it okay to connect a dvi-d to dvi-d (both single)? I'm hoping to extend the cord.
[02:28] <xop> I am hosting ssh server behind a router. I already port forwarded port 22 to my server, and it was accessible via public ip until yesterday when it suddenly decided to stop working, though accessing through local ip is fine (OpenSSH).
[02:29] <xop> what might be the cause of this?
[02:29] <Leeuwenhok_> Can we skip this stuff and get to a recommendation? I'd like to know what type of partitions I should create and how many. I'd like a separate /home too as some have suggested.
[02:30] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok_ I've already recommended - twice.  do what you wish or let ubuntu auto-configure
[02:30] <xpcsuper> oi
[02:30] <Riobe> Leeuwenhok_, cfhowlett did give you a recommendation.
[02:30] <xpcsuper> hello
[02:31] <cfhowlett> xpcsuper ask your ubuntu questions
[02:31] <histo> !partition | Leeuwenhok_
[02:31] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: basically then / /home and /swap
[02:31] <Leeuwenhok_> #cfhowlett Does Ubuntu detect and install on free space?
[02:32] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: did you move your partitionts?
[02:32] <Leeuwenhok_> Swap 2 GB or 4 GB? What size should be /home? Do I need to add any labels or flags?
[02:32] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: How much ram is in this machine?
[02:33] <Leeuwenhok_> I'm not moving anything. I deleted the 2 linux parts. 4 GB.
[02:33] <phriscoole> does anyone have a working example of /etc/preferences file that prevents newer packages matching a wildcard (e.g. libreoffice*) from being installed from the default ubuntu repos and instead, installs only older package updates from a ppa?
[02:34] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: If you chose automatic it would just install to free space. If you choose "something else"  it will let you manaully set up the partitions etc..
[02:35] <xpcsuper> alguem ai do Brazil
[02:35] <eeee> Leeuwenhok_: 8GB swap would be ok
[02:35] <Leeuwenhok_> In order to preserve half of this free space at the beginning, what kind of partition should I create which labels it as "not for use"?
[02:35] <cfhowlett> !br|xpcsuper
[02:37] <xop> Sorry to have to reiterate my question but here goes - I am hosting ssh server behind a router. I already port forwarded port 22 to my server, and it was accessible via public ip until yesterday when it suddenly decided to stop working, though accessing through local ip is fine (OpenSSH).what might be the cause of this?
[02:38] <cfhowlett> xop you might ask #ubuntu-server or ##linux
[02:39] <function9> xop: check the logs
[02:39] <xpcsuper> alguem usa cryptocat
[02:39] <xpcsuper> ?
[02:39] <donavan01> can anyone help me I need to make a copy of an encrypted  dvd to play on my my tablet to keep my 11month old from screaming bloody murder on a 3 hour road trip what is the easiest way to do this ... I legally own the dvd so im not pirating I just need it on the tablet
[02:40] <phriscoole> it's prob faster and easier to just torrent it
[02:40] <phriscoole> since you own it it may even be legal
[02:41] <cfhowlett> donavan01 download Big Buck Bunny.  Kids LOVE it and it's free.  Also, download "Sita Sings the Blues" - also free
[02:41] <Leeuwenhok_> How do I label a partition so that Ubuntu detects it as "not for use" and doesnot install on it?
[02:41] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: Will you be using this partiton that is preserved for what?
[02:41] <Leeuwenhok_> To add it to the first part later on.
[02:42] <buck11> cfhowlett: hi
[02:42] <cfhowlett> buck11 greetings.
[02:42] <buck11> you dinged me :P
[02:42] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: just create a partition using the installer but don't choose a mount point for it.
[02:42] <xpcsuper> must configure cryptocat. Can someone help me?
[02:42] <cfhowlett> buck11 eh?  Big Buck Bunny movie pinged you.  Sorry.
[02:42] <histo> !info cryptocat
[02:42] <buck11> no worries, just amusing
[02:42] <Leeuwenhok_> Do I create it for installing or for not installing?
[02:43] <Leeuwenhok_> And do I create it as extended?
[02:43] <derek> Hey everyone. I am running a little experiment, which is Ubuntu 14 desktop running e17 and I actually got terminology term to compile and run! The resizing of the desktop under VMWare Fusion seems pretty stable so far. Crossing fingers :)
[02:44] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: Can't you chose the start point if you create a partition in the installer?
[02:44] <xpcsuper> ok
[02:44] <Leeuwenhok_> Yes, I can by moving the part.
[02:44] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: Why don't you just grow the second partition first.  Then use the guided partitioning in the installer because, it sounds like you have very little knowledge of what you are doing.
[02:45] <Leeuwenhok_> In the installer? No. I was talking about gparted.
[02:45] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok_ he's suggested you NOT use gparted and use the installer insteader.
[02:45] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: I gparted grow you second partition to your liking.
[02:45] <Leeuwenhok_> Ok
[02:45] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: then leave the rest of the drive freespace, then in the installer you can install to the freespace
[02:46] <Leeuwenhok_> Okay.
[02:46] <Leeuwenhok_> That was easy.
[02:47] <meganerd> xpcsuper: isn't cryptocat just a firefox extension?
[02:50] <andrej> I'm looking for a way to track down which process on a box initiates an ssh connection to another device on a network.  The connection attempts seem to be very short-lived, a loop running netstat -tnp doesn't reveal the culprit .... what other options do I have?
[02:51] <Leeuwenhok_> I'm at the installation window. I've got free space there. When I press install, it says "No root file system is defined." It probably needs pre-partitioning.
[02:52] <cfhowlett> Leeuwenhok_ paste a pic
[02:52] <cfhowlett> !screenshot
[02:52] <meganerd> andrej: if you know the destination you can just create an iptables log rule
[02:53] <histo> Leeuwenhok_: Did you choose guided install using free space or did you choose "something else"
[02:54] <Leeuwenhok> I didn't want to install it alongside Windows as I assumed it means it would modify the Windows part. So I selected "something else".
[02:55] <navap> Does do-release-upgrade automatically restart the server?
[02:55] <histo> Leeuwenhok: It wouldn't modify the windows part, so if you choose "something else" you need to define your own partitions
[02:55] <histo> navap: no
[02:55] <meganerd> navap: no
[02:55] <meganerd> Leeuwenhok: I missed the first part of your conversation, but I presume that you have all of your Windows data backed up?
[02:56] <Leeuwenhok> Yes.
[02:56] <navap> So once I say y to the "upgrade can take several hours...process cannot be cancelled" are there any more prompts?
[02:56] <meganerd> navap: lots
[02:56] <navap> Oh. What for?
[02:56] <cfhowlett> navap recommend you see #ubuntu-server for more info on this query
[02:56] <apb1963> andrej:  while (true) do ps -ef | grep ssh  >> /tmp/filename.txt;    done
[02:57] <meganerd> navap: If it detects changed config files it prompts for you to keep or replace
[02:57] <meganerd> navap: some packages ask questions (like the lightdm, kdm if you have more than one installed).  There are a few prompts.
[02:58] <histo> Leeuwenhok: just install along side windows, unless you think there is a need to define your own partitions etc...
[02:58] <navap> meganerd: It's a 12.10 server
[02:58] <meganerd> navap: I usually run do-release-upgrade in a screen or byobu session
[02:58] <meganerd> navap: version does not really matter
[02:58] <cfhowlett> !server|navap
[02:59] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|navap also 12.10 is end of life, so you must do an eolupgrade
[02:59] <navap> I don't know why I installed 12.10 server. I knew it wasn't lts and I did it anyway...
[02:59] <Riobe> I have a Unreal Engine 4 group project that I need Windows to run, is there VM software you guys would recommend to run that on?
[02:59] <cfhowlett> Riobe virtualbox
[02:59] <meganerd> Riobe: hardware
[02:59] <Riobe> cfhowlett, Thanks.
[02:59] <Riobe> meganerd, Huh?
[02:59] <cfhowlett> Riobe happy2help
[03:00] <Leeuwenhok> The installation window is stuck since I pressed Back.
[03:00] <meganerd> Riobe: 3d acceleration in VB can be tricky to get working
[03:00] <Leeuwenhok> Is there a kill command for the installation window?
[03:01] <Riobe> meganerd, Hypothetically I can output a game build from Unreal Engine 4 (new to it) that is supposed to run on Linux. I just can't run the UE4 dev tools in Linux. So I should be able to make a Linux build, put it on one of my secondary hard drives, then minimize the VM and run it on Ubuntu. I think.
[03:01] <meganerd> Riobe: if the choice is a VM or hardware for this, then I would put Windows directly on hardware.  At work we did some Windows VMs in Xen for 3d accelerated drafting, we just went back to directly installing on hardware.
[03:01] <Riobe> The other members of the group are on Windows, so the Windows testing will happen there.
[03:02] <Riobe> meganerd, Would a dual boot count for this?
[03:02] <meganerd> Riobe: I am not sure about the tools.  That may or may not work.  I know that Maya was unhappy living in a VM.  And yes dual booting is running Windows on the hardware :)
[03:03] <meganerd> Riobe: it might be doable, in my case looking back it has not been worth it.  I would encourage you to actually try it.
[03:04] <bjv> Q: I am on 13.10 and have successfully "share internet connection" with a headless PC... how can I determine what IP has been assigned to the PC so that I can SSH into it?
[03:04] <brianch> e... buenas noches
[03:04] <cfhowlett> !es|brianch
[03:04] <Riobe> meganerd, To try what? VM? If you've had that experience with the 3D stuff then I'm unlikely to get different. And though I want to spend a lot of my time in code, to pull up the editor and game and check that it actually works...that'll all have 3D all over it.
[03:05] <function9> bjv: ifconfig
[03:05] <Riobe> That definitely makes dual boot sound like a good option.
[03:05] <bjv> function9: but 10.42.0.1 is the IP of my Ubuntu machine
[03:05] <bjv> function9: how do I connect to the PC I am sharing with?
[03:06] <Riobe> meganerd, I'll just dev in one and live in the other when I'm not. Epic Games is supposed to be adding native Linux support to the editor when then can (on the roadmap and they've already started supporting it) so hopefully I won't have to go back to Windows much longer.
[03:06] <function9> you need to login to the pc you are sharing with and use ifconfig
[03:06] <bjv> function9: when i try to connect to ifconfig address I get  "ssh: connect to host 10.42.0.1 port 16022: Connection refused"
[03:06] <Riobe> Thanks for the advice.
[03:06] <bjv> function9: it is headless
[03:06] <alexi5> hello
[03:06] <alexi5> do you guys know of any opensource wiki software that can search the content of pdf files ?
[03:07] <function9> bjv: firewall active on the remote box? Is the sshd running?
[03:10] <bjv> function9: sshd is running and i have the firewall off on both  interfaces
[03:10] <bjv> function9: i can connect to the interface on the PC that is running it's own DHCP server
[03:11] <bjv> function9: is 10.42.0.1 supposed to be both my address and the address of the remote client i'm sharing with?
[03:11] <bjv> seems.. odd
[03:12] <bjv> function9: yeah, that cant be right. because when i ssh 10.42.0.1 -p 22
[03:12] <bjv> function9: I connect to myself, the Ubuntu 13.10 box.. not the headless PC
[03:13] <bjv> i cant seem to be able to find the dnsmasq log file, i assume that is what NM is using to hand out DHCP leases to the box i'm sharing internet with
[03:17] <Leeuwenhok> I selected "Install alongside Windows 8". I wonder what it's doing right now. Where does it install with that selection?
[03:19] <Leeuwenhok> I'm off to sleep. This wasn't very helpful, you know. It's usually much easier when I do it by myself. It's truly said, " Too many cooks spoil the broth".
[03:20] <function9> bjv: sorry i was out. Use static IP. DHCP is only good if you have a lot of pc's
[03:22] <andrej> apb1963 : I did that (and aditionally netstat -tnp), but didn't manage to capture the culprit in 24h
[03:22] <histo> Leeuwenhok: to the free space
[03:23] <andrej> I need something that would not need a loop
[03:23] <histo> andrej: what are you trying to do?
[03:23] <Leeuwenhok> @histo I hope and wish that's true. Otherwise, all this time would have gone to waste.
[03:24] <Leeuwenhok> Bye.
[03:24] <histo> andrej: nvm I read scrollback. Why do you think a process is ssh'ng all on it's own?
[03:28] <meganerd> andrej:
[03:28] <meganerd> andrej: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=iptables+log+ssh+connections
[03:29] <bjv> *bleh, tried to switch back to the headless boxes interface thats running DHCP to see if i could find a log file, but ubuntu default routes got all messed up.. lost irc connection
[03:29] <bjv> couldnt find a log, anyway
[03:31] <meganerd> bjv: what you want is probably in /var/log/syslog
[03:34] <bjv> meganerd: ah, thank you -   "dnsmasq-dhcp[20538]: DHCP, IP range 10.42.0.10 -- 10.42.0.100, lease time 1h"
[03:34] <meganerd> bjv: you might also have some luck with ping -b 10.42.0.255
[03:35] <meganerd> bjv: glad to help.  /var/log/syslog is the default, and things that used to be in /var/log/daemon are now in there.
[03:38] <function9> bjv: use static IP's, dhcp is only good if you have a lot of PC's in your network
[03:43] <apb1963> andrej: are you sure you've identified the right box?
[03:48] <hdm> odd question, i tend to run glx enabled X servers over ssh from windows boxen to herds of ubuntu servers. Getting this error on a recent app test that uses Mesa with 14.04 LTS. Any ideas? driver does not expose __driDriverGetExtensions_swrast():
[03:49] <hdm> this isn't a high-performance app, but it does use 2d GL APIs, odd that it doesnt work with defaults: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/swrast_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driDriverGetExtensions_swrast
[03:50] <subb1> hi all.
[03:53] <subb1> dns resolution on my ubuntu 14.04 if failing frequently. I have dnsmasq-base installed. Discussions suggest to disable dnsmasq in NetworkManager.conf. But when I rebooted the machine, dns resolution was not working at all ! How can I possible find a away around. Often, i had to use Google's NS and hardcode them into resolv.conf, which was a bad idea, but I had no other options in case of emergency work.
[03:53] <histo> subb1: what nameservers are you using when it's failing?
[03:54] <subb1> histo, googles public NS.
[03:54] <histo> subb1: when you find one that fails try dig
[03:54] <subb1> nm tool reports my dns server as - 192.168.2.1
[03:56] <subb1> histo, "dig @192.168.2.1 google.com" returns the IPs for google though...
[03:57] <vagvaf> is there any way to connect a windows mobile device with ubuntu ?
[03:57] <histo> subb1: is 192.168.2.1 your ip or your gateways?
[03:58] <subb1> histo, it's both
[03:58] <cfhowlett> vagvaf android phones have a wifi connection utility via the browers.  I suspect windows does as well.
[03:59] <vagvaf> cfhowlett, my device does not have a wireless receiver, it is not a phone. it has however bluetooth
[04:00] <cfhowlett> vagvaf ah.  sorry then, disregard my suggestion.
[04:01] <subb1> hi all
[04:02] <histo> vagvaf: what are you trying to do with the phone?
[04:08] <vagvaf> histo i'm trying to send data from my device to my pc
[04:16] <chrstphrchvz> Is it the intended behavior of aptitude for it to mark auto removable packages as manually installed when "Cancel pending actions" is used in interactive mode?
[04:17] <andrej> apb1963: yes, sorry for the slow responses, busy busy
[04:18] <apb1963> andrej: Do you have access to the sshd server logs? What user does the process login as?  You could also try denying all outgoing connections to the ssh port (or changing the port) and see if anything complains in the logs.  Check all your cron files to see if anything in there is initiating the connection.
[04:19] <chrstphrchvz> (I wouldn't think so, c.f. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=537735 )
[04:19] <andrej> meganerd : that won't tell me the process name?
[04:24] <histo> vagvaf: have you tried plugging it in?
[04:24] <apb1963> andrej: you could put a wrapper around ssh and do your own logging.
[04:36] <darkstar_> No wireless support for Realtek RTL8192EE [10ec:818b]
[04:37] <darkstar_> now i use firmware rtl8192eefw.bin
[04:37] <darkstar_> it Seems to work but do not connect!
[04:44] <vagvaf> histo, i connect it with a usb cable and nothing happens
[04:46] <histo> Versudo_: not familiar with windows phone's if they provide a mtp connection when connected to a PC
[04:49] <vagvaf> histo i said earlier, it's not a phone it as gnss controller
[04:49] <vagvaf> *it is a
[04:50] <histo> vagvaf: what?
[04:51] <histo> vagvaf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile
[04:57] <karlgrz> having a weird problem with microsoft lifecam cinema hd, ubuntu 14.04, and capturing audio and video simultaneously, specifically using guvcview. Cursory web search has yielded nothing helpful. Now I am digging into IRC channels.
[04:58] <karlgrz> Anyone point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.
[05:32] <AlessiaUbuntu> can someone help me on "how to disable automatic login". I switched off the option on system->user account. But it doesn't work
[05:32] <function9> AlessiaUbuntu, which DE?
[05:33] <AlessiaUbuntu> 14.04
[05:34] <AlessiaUbuntu> function9, 14.04
[05:34] <function9> Desktop Environment
[05:34] <function9> gnome? kde?
[05:34] <AlessiaUbuntu> function9, unity
[05:34] <AlessiaUbuntu> classic
[05:36] <fweafwaejfo> Anyone here familiar with FFserver and Open Broadcaster Software (OBS)?
[05:37] <function9> AlessiaUbuntu, sorry phone
[05:37] <function9> AlessiaUbuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/367566/unable-to-disable-automatic-login-on-13-10
[05:38] <AlessiaUbuntu> function9, thank you very much
[05:46] <Riobe> The package I see when I do "apt-cache search virtualbox" called "virtualbox" says x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. Does anyone know if it can run 64 bit OS's as well?
[05:47] <rww> Riobe: yes
[05:47] <histo> Riobe: depends on your cpu
[05:47] <Riobe> Thinking of giving it a try if it can.
[05:47] <Riobe> rww, great! Thanks.
[05:47] <Riobe> histo, I have a 64 bit system.
[05:47] <histo> Riobe: does it have the virtualization flags though/
[05:48] <Riobe> histo, That I'm less sure of. How would I check?
[05:48] <histo> Riobe: is it an intel or amd cpu?
[05:49] <Riobe> AMD
[05:50] <histo> Riobe: grep --color -e svm /proc/cpuinfo
[05:50] <histo> Riobe: any results?
[05:51] <Riobe> histo, I did not know I could do that, that's awesome. Thank you. And yeah, I see svm and svm_lock with svm highlighted.
[05:51] <histo> Riobe: K you are good to go. Didn't know you could do what?
[05:51] <function9> Riobe: you use it can to an extent, depending on the guestOS, depending on your CPU and your bios
[05:52] <Riobe> histo, Make grep highlight results red, give it a file direcly instead of just cat something | grep, or find cpuinfo in /proc. Now I'm going to glance at what other files are in that directory.
[05:53] <histo> Riobe: yeah people excessively use cat all the time.
[05:53] <Riobe> function9, I'm going to be trying to run 64 bit Win7 on a VM. I'm new to ubuntu and I don't want to switch off of it after spending so much time trying to learn it (and having a lot of fun), so I don't want to dual boot if I don't have to.
[05:53] <histo> Riobe: it will work.
[05:53] <Riobe> histo, Great. Thank you for helping me prove that out!
[05:53]  * histo doesn't have a vt cpu :(
[05:54] <Ben64> Riobe: install the guest additions in the vm'd windows install for best performance
[05:54] <histo> Riobe: you can also run the windows 7 vm in seamless mode is pretty slick. Have the taskbar at the bottom of the screen and/or have windows applications appear that they are running in the linux desktop.
[05:55] <Riobe> Ben64, Thanks for the tip, I'll make sure I google how to do that. Wouldn't have known to look for it.
[05:55] <function9> Riobe, if your bios has a section on VT-x/AMD, then you should be ok
[05:55] <Riobe> histo, That sound amazing.
[05:55] <Ben64> Riobe: it may prompt you to do it, but if not, remember to get it
[05:55] <histo> function9: it does obviously if the kernel can see that functionality
[05:55] <histo> tools > guest additions or something
[05:56] <Riobe> You guys are awesome.
[05:57] <function9> histo, it's a bios thang, not a kernel thang
[05:58] <histo> function9: No it's a cpu thing
[05:59] <function9> histo, if your bios is like mine and it doesn't support it, and there is no upgrade available, how else can I enable VT-x
[05:59] <function9> histo, it's a bios thang
[05:59] <histo> function9: The bios has nothing to do with it. Your cpu does, some bioses let you disable or enable that part of your cpu.
[06:00] <function9> hist: not mine
[06:00] <function9> :)
[06:00] <histo> function9: right because your CPU doesn't support it
[06:02] <histo> function9: even the laptop vendors that disable it do it on the cpu.
[06:09] <function9> histo, my pc is very old, I've seen the 8 cores, I'm setting my sights on it ;)
[06:10] <Riobe> Any of you guys familiar with virtualization know what kind of hard drive file type would make the most sense to use? I'm assuming VirtualBox Disk Image (VDI)?
[06:11] <function9> Riobe, #vbox :)
[06:11] <Riobe> Ah, I should have guessed there'd be a channel for it. Thanks. :)
[06:14] <histo> Riobe: It should default to one when you create a new machine. Choose the one that expands while you use it.
[06:15] <Riobe> histo, Thanks
[06:25] <zartoosh> hi Is there a site for ubuntu's grub related questions? thx
[06:25] <histo> zartoosh: what is the question?
[06:26] <meganerd> andrej: if you suspect something malicious, you are not going to find it by running commands inside of the compromised host (hiding is malware 101 these days, it does not matter what platform your pwned on).  Inspect the traffic that it emits, then decide what to do with that host.
[06:27] <histo> zartoosh: I meant ask away in here.
[06:30] <Riobe> I thought that Ubuntu had the root user disabled and so I couldn't open a console as it. When I opened the folder that virtualbox stores it's VM files in (from the open file dialog) and then ran terminal there to figure out where it was, a terminal as root came up.
[06:30] <Riobe> Does that mean virtualbox gave my root account a password and "enabled" it?
[06:30] <meganerd> Riobe: there is no password associated with root by default, you can always use sudo -i to get a root shell
[06:31] <Baribal_> Hi. I just saw that dkms was removed. What's up with that?
[06:31] <Riobe> I was reading about that on the RootSudo page from the Ubuntu help. But I thought you couldn't actually get a root terminal without giving root itself a password. Am I wrong on that?
[06:31] <odsent> t
[06:31] <meganerd> Riobe: without a password you cannot login, but there are other mechanisms for getting a root session.  Root is not actually disabled.
[06:31] <odsent> Help, when I Change the boot order in BIOS, i can't save with f10
[06:31] <Riobe> meganerd, Oh, ok. I guess that's how I stumbled into it then. Thanks for clearing that up.
[06:31] <meganerd> Riobe: "sudo -i" "sudo su -" will both get you a root shell
[06:31] <odsent> i'm trying to install windows 8, because i hate how hard it is to install things in ubuntu, and how a lot of games don't wonk on it
[06:32] <Riobe> meganerd, and that it does. Haven't needed that yet, but it'll be good to be able to keep that in mind if I ever do. Thanks.
[06:32] <theadmin> odsent: Okay, but you're on your own with that, this is Ubuntu support, not Windows support.
[06:33] <odsent> i need bios support
[06:33] <Riobe> So far I'm trying to follow the "use sudo instead" advice.
[06:33] <theadmin> odsent: That doesn't belong here, either, but you may PM me, I may be able to help you out I suppose
[06:33] <theadmin> odsent: Type "/query theadmin" and we can go from there
[06:35] <meganerd> Riobe: I have other reasons for assigning root a pw, but day to day, just use sudo
[06:36] <Riobe> meganerd, Sounds fair to me. Thanks again.
[06:36] <meganerd> Riobe: np
[06:36] <meganerd> Riobe: you also do not need to run VB as root (except to upgrade and install the extensions)
[06:38] <theadmin> meganerd: You don't need to run VB (Virtualbox, I suppose?) as root even for that
[06:38] <theadmin> meganerd: It will call gksu for extension installation and upgrade via APT as usual
[06:39] <meganerd> theadmin: In practice I have found that to not always be the case.
[06:39] <theadmin> meganerd: Hm, always worked fine for me
[06:39] <Riobe> Good information
[06:40] <zartoosh> histo, I have been struggling on finding answer on how to install two instances of ubuntu on a harddisk in uefi mode.  IT requires some specific knowleged on grub-efi and ubuntu which I am lacking ...
[06:40] <byte> moin
[06:48]  * Symmetria sighs at his server, man, Im installing windows on this damn thing just so I can configure the backend storage and then reboot and install linux :(
[06:50] <DJ_U|Laptop> Well, I installed a new HDD in my desktop, set up 2 partitions, one for windoze and the other for kubuntu.  Windows is already up and running, but the partitioner for linux only has the option to use the entire disk...
[06:52] <meganerd> Symmetria: out of curiosity, what kind of storage are we talking about?
[06:56] <Symmetria> megan dell md3200s
[06:58] <Symmetria> heh huge amount of disk space at huge expense, irritates the hell outta me that I gotta go to this extent to make it work
[07:01] <DJ_U|Laptop> This is going to bug me.  Never had this issue before.  My only options are:  Guided - use entire disk, Guided - use entire disk and set up VLM, and Guided - use entire disk and set up enxrypted VLM
[07:01] <theadmin> DJ_U|Laptop: No "Something else"?
[07:01] <DJ_U|Laptop> Just manual
[07:01] <theadmin> DJ_U|Laptop: Well, use manual then?
[07:01] <Symmetria> heh I think the thing thats bugging me most about having to install an initial operating system to do configs on this thing is how damn long the box takes every time you gotta reboot it because of ram/firmware initilization, takes 4 to 6 minutes before it even starts to boot :(
[07:02] <DJ_U|Laptop> Could try it, but this is where I get confused instantly, don't know how to set it up at this point.
[07:04] <Mattias> How do I install a self-signed certificate on my machine? The other server is an ftp server (proftpd), and I need the self-signed cert on the other machine to be able to connect. and I don't want to have the ftp client ignore self-signed certs either.
[07:07] <theadmin> DJ_U|Laptop: Basically, you will need to add an ext4 partition into an empty space, set the mount point to /, size around ~20G, a swap partition, size around 2-4G (no mountpoint), and another ext4 partition for /home, with the rest of free space.
[07:08] <theadmin> DJ_U|Laptop: You may leave the home partition out and give that size to /, but that's not recommended.
[07:08] <meganerd> Symmetria: ahh, supermicro is who I/we buy from now.
[07:10] <DJ_U|Laptop> These all primary or logical?
[07:11] <meganerd> Symmetria: At home I modded an old Coolermaster centurion to turn all 9 of it's 5.25" bays into 15 x 3.5" SATA hotswap with some cheap LSI SAS cards (don't want on card RAID).  Kind of overkill for a btrfs test box.
[07:11] <Gotolei> i can't get any programs to record sound in 12.04
[07:12] <Gotolei> audacity, ssr, gnome-screen-recorder..
[07:13] <Gotolei> gnome-sound-recorder*
[07:15] <Riobe> meganerd, Well, I went ahead and tried it in virtualbox just to see how slow it might be. Figured it would be at least worth a try. Even after enabling the guest additions Direct3D support from safe mode Unreal Engine 4 immediately crashes when trying to run. I'm going to call your initial recommendation of dual boot a good one. :P
[07:15] <meganerd> Riobe: been there, done that.
[07:15] <meganerd> Riobe: I have had better luck with KVM lately, but it is not as straightforward as VB
[07:16] <gry> Hi. How do I update the list of environments shown on the login screen? Trying to install xubuntu-desktop and gnome-shell at the same time; the list only shows the xubuntu things now.
[07:17] <DJ_U|Laptop> Appears to be installing now, will let you know if it works.  Thanks for the help guys.  :)
[07:18] <Abhijit> gry, may be gnome is listed as just Ubuntu?
[07:18] <Riobe> meganerd, At this point I've been spent since last Thursday playing around with Linux and ways to do this on here. Built UE4 on Linux, but there's a lot that isn't supported (like code projects since it can't find an IDE). At this point I just want to get back to learning the engine so I think I'm going to just deal with dual boot till they support Linux fully.
[07:18] <meganerd> Riobe: not a bad plan
[07:19] <meganerd> Riobe: I have different objectives.  If I were in your shoes I would probably do the same thing.
[07:19]  * Riobe crosses fingers that they'll carry through on their promise to support the editor on Linux fully.
[07:19] <DJ_U|Laptop> I'm a gamer myself, so I'll still be dual-booting into the foreseeable future.
[07:19] <santhosh> hai how to add the domain user in sudoers file for root permissions
[07:19] <gry> Abhijit: I'll give you the full list in a few moments, need to look at it.
[07:19] <meganerd> Riobe: don't hold your breath.  I still think the SteamBox is just leverage, I have been heartbroken too many times now :)
[07:20] <Riobe> I'm hoping that Valve's SteamOS and things like UE4 supporting builds to Linux will eventually make a difference.... lol, fair enough meganerd
[07:20] <meganerd> Riobe: on the other hand, my audio production stack has been full Linux for close to a decade now.   It is funny how some areas are better served by FLOSS than others.
[07:21] <meganerd> Riobe: so there is still hope :)
[07:21] <Gotolei> what exactly do i need to set audacity to to get it to record? it's set to alsa:pulse and it's still not getting anything
[07:22] <Riobe> meganerd, Here's hoping it happens before hell freezes then. :) Well, that's enough banging my head for one night. Toodles and thanks again.
[07:22] <meganerd> Riobe: np, I should get some sleep too
[07:22] <Symmetria> heh opensource has its advantages in some applications thats for sure, sadly, in certain other areas its lagged behind quite badly
[07:23] <Symmetria> video / graphic editing would be high on that list
[07:25] <meganerd> Symmetria: inkscape is awesome.  I don't do video so I can't say how those apps stack up.
[07:26] <Gotolei> there's a few decent ones for video, but sound? lolnope
[07:27] <Gotolei> another bonus of open-source is that it's near impossible to get help ._.
[07:28] <meganerd> Gotolei: I don't know what you mean by sound.  There is a deep and sophisticated stack.
[07:28] <meganerd> Gotolei: there is also a ton of help, more than I have ever gotten from any vendor.  The trick is knowing how to ask.
[07:28] <Gotolei> yup, and nothing can get into it so it seems
[07:29] <Gotolei> any tips, then? i've tried this irc about half a dozen times now and it's been useless every time ;)
[07:29] <Gotolei> over the course of a couple years
[07:29] <meganerd> Gotolei: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[07:29] <meganerd> Gotolei: it has been my bible for more than a decade
[07:29] <meganerd> Gotolei: the #ubuntustudio channel might be a better place if you like irc
[07:30] <meganerd> Gotolei: mailing lists are also pretty handy
[07:30] <Gotolei> does the studio channel shun people using vanilla ubuntu
[07:31] <Gotolei> eh, mailing lists. just as few replies, and takes a hundred times as long
[07:31] <meganerd> Gotolei: the biggest problem with audio is hardware.  When it works it is awesome, but crappy hardware is such a pain.
[07:31] <meganerd> Gotolei: ubuntustudio is ubuntu.
[07:31] <Gotolei> ofc it is
[07:32] <meganerd> Gotolei: I have not been around much in the past couple of years, but I seem to remember them being a friendly bunch.
[07:33] <Gotolei> what hardware would be required for some form of audio recording
[07:34] <Gotolei> using a dell laptop atm
[07:36] <meganerd> Gotolei: it depends on what you want to do.  I have a vantec usb for quick and dirty stuff, an old tascam for higher quality, and in my desktop I have an RME 9652 paired with an RME ADI 8 DS
[07:36] <Gotolei> ideally it would be used for recording gameplay
[07:37] <Gotolei> the game in question is 15 years old, so cpu etc isn't an issue
[07:37] <DJ_U|Laptop> I think I'm good to go, thanks theadmin
[07:37] <meganerd> Gotolei: Oh, I was thinking more of the recording bands and such.
[07:38] <Gotolei> ah yeah this is internal sound
[07:39] <meganerd> Gotolei: the vantec (http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/439) will probably do the job (line out from existing soundcard for the game into this one)
[07:39] <meganerd> Gotolei: assuming that you can't just capture the audio directly
[07:40] <Gotolei> that's what i would like to do
[07:40] <Gotolei> maybe there's some wine settings that can be messed around with..
[07:40] <meganerd> Gotolei: are you recording sound on the laptop but playing on a different computer?
[07:40] <Gotolei> no i'm playing on the laptop and recording on that same laptop
[07:41] <Gotolei> Simple Screen Recorder
[07:42] <meganerd> Gotolei: that is going beyond what I have done.  What does the Source say for audio?  A second sound card (via USB) would do what you want as a fallback.
[07:44] <Gotolei> Pulseaudio, Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog stereo
[07:46] <meganerd> Gotolei: and nothing else in the drop down?  Did you unmute the input?
[07:46] <protoss1976>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[07:46] <Gotolei> it has two drop-down options
[07:47] <Gotolei> top one has ALSA, Pulseaudio and JACK
[07:47] <Gotolei> currently Pulse
[07:47] <Gotolei> bottom only has two options, the aforementioned "monitor of [...]" and the same thing except without Monitor Of
[07:48] <hadifarnoud> I want to access an ubuntu machine on my network without having to remember the IP address. ie ubuntu.local
[07:49] <hadifarnoud> how can I do that? I have hostname and /etc/host setup already but other machines can't see that
[07:50] <meganerd> hadifarnoud: host file is only for that machine, you would need to create an entry in every computer's host file.  That or setup DNS
[07:50] <Chaser> hadifarnoud: If its with in a LAN then you can use mdns. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToZeroconf
[07:51] <hadifarnoud> thanks Chaser meganerd
[08:03] <gustavo> Hi
[08:04] <gustavo> Will Ubuntu 14.10 come out with new icons????
[08:04] <bcvery> gustavo, support for future releases is in #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <gustavo> Oh...
[08:05] <Gotolei> well this is weird, Simple Screen Recorder can record sound but audacity can't
[08:38] <gry> Abhijit: hi, in lightdm I don't really see a list. The right top icon says an xfce logo but gives no options when clicked.
[08:39] <gry> .
[08:40] <Fuchs> gry: apt-cache policy gnome-session
[08:40] <gry> Fuchs, hi.
[08:41] <Fuchs> gry: if that isn't installed: install it. Apparently they did split up packages a bit.
[08:41] <Fuchs> Hai :)
[08:41] <gry> Fuchs, http://dpaste.com/1DQZGEA
[08:41] <gry> Fuchs, ok.
[08:41] <Fuchs> gry: yes, you want to install that
[08:41] <Fuchs> the silly little icon (god, I do hate lightdm) should be clickable then
[08:41] <Fuchs> or keyboardable
[08:42] <gry> I do too, but I'm doing one change at a time.
[08:44] <gry> I apparently have a "debian-spamd" user in /etc/passwd, but I already uninstalled spamassassin. how come?
[08:47] <Fuchs> depending on how you uninstalled it  (purge or not) the user might have been kept
[08:47] <Fuchs> depends a bit on the package uninstall hooks
[08:52] <ThKo> Good morning folks, just a short question…If I’ve running my website on server A (PHP website with MySQL DB) and have another server B with a configuration for Android SDK, Cordova etc.
[08:53] <ThKo> Is it possible to execute commands on server A, which has access to server B? For example „cordova build“?
[08:53] <ThKo> Or just another command „ls“. I mean if it’s in principle possible?
[08:54] <gry> Fuchs, hi. it works, but it is ugly. https://i.imgur.com/HH6b16U.png
[08:54] <gry> what did I miss? I don't even see a theme chooser in the settings.
[08:55] <k1l_> gry: see if "gnome-tweak-tool" is the right one
[08:55] <gry> k1l_, will try; out of curiousity, is it builtin, i.e. is the distro shipped with it?
[08:55] <k1l_> ubuntu made their own "unity-tweak-tool" out of the gnome one. maybe you need that if the changed the name
[08:56] <Fuchs> gry: yes, gnome is supposed to be a bit ugly ;)
[08:56] <gry> you'll notice that the window is not themed properly either
[08:56] <Fuchs> no, jokes aside, they want you to use the defaults (which is adwaita, basically, for now), but there is the tweak tool mentioned
[08:56] <gry> and how do I switch to adwaita?
[08:56] <Fuchs> gry: how did you install gnome? Given you also didn't have the session, you might be lacking some more packages
[08:57] <gry> I just installed gnome-shell and gnome-session, that's it.
[09:00] <avernos> hello, what is the channel for ubuntu server ?
[09:00] <cynicallemon> ubuntu-server
[09:01] <cynicallemon> or debian :)
[09:01] <bcvery> !server | avernos
[09:04] <Fuchs> gry: I think ubuntu-gnome-desktop  would have been the meta package, maybe see what other packages that would have pulled
[09:04] <Fuchs> so you get $whateveryouneed
[09:04] <gry> the applications look ok now, but the top bar (panel) is still black
[09:04] <gry> ok
[09:05] <Fuchs> it is supposed to be black, I'm pretty sure
[09:05] <gry> oh
[09:05] <Fuchs> yeah, it is supposed to be black, say screenshots
[09:05] <gry> I'm 99% sure that's configurable
[09:05] <Fuchs> http://media.cdn.ubuntu-de.org/wiki/attachments/03/04/Standard-Ubersicht-GNOME-Shell.png  <<
[09:05] <gry> as is a proper nice taskbar and things
[09:05] <Fuchs> gry: you might be disappointed there
[09:06] <Fuchs> gry: gnome3 is pretty much mostly unconfigurable (on purpose, this is a neutral statement).  There is a classic mode which is closer to what you might know
[09:06] <Fuchs> with a grey panel, taskbar etc. pp.
[09:06] <Fuchs> maybe you want that. Or you get used to the new way you are supposed to use.
[09:08] <gry> it is /the/ gnu desktop, i'm sure it's in theory configurable, even if the distro made it hard; will do some reading i guess
[09:08] <cynicallemon> probably the best gnome3 trick is to install KDE or XFCE
[09:11] <xubuntu> hello
[09:13] <histo> cynicallemon: i3wm
[09:14] <cynicallemon> histo, yeah anything but gnome3
[09:14] <histo> cynicallemon: gnome3 has it's places but not on my archaic hardware
[09:15] <cynicallemon> histo, they've made a mess of gedit IMHO
[09:16] <cynicallemon> histo, even on good hardware it's still so so
[09:17] <gry> Fuchs, i'm now trying to talk to the gnome folks over at their network to ask whether it's by design or not; i'll look for screenshots to find inspiration too
[09:17] <cynicallemon> histo, i prefer a DE that doesn't break stuff each time its upgraded
[09:17] <Fuchs> gry: okay, good luck
[09:18] <Fuchs> again, this is a completely neutral statement: it is not configurable. On purpose. They make it one big package, including the GTK theme, and they say  "take it or leave it". Whether this is good is debatable (not in here and not with me, I suggest), but it is sort of how things are. So if that isn't what you are looking for, you might be happier with one of the alternatives  (and there are plenty of these, mate, cinnamon, xfce ... just to name
[09:18] <Fuchs> GTK ones)
[09:22] <gry> Fuchs, acknowledged.
[09:29] <gry> what package is the "user themes extension"? I can not find it
[09:29] <pr3p> hello
[09:30] <Cuppa_coffee> i recently imaged a 140 gig hd to a 250 gig ssd, but now i have a rather large part of the ssd not allocated. I cant seem to expand the partition to the unallocated part. What am i doing wrong?
[09:32] <avernos> how can I increase the number of TCP connections on my machine? the default limit is not good for my program..
[09:32] <Fuchs> gry: do you have a gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[09:33] <Fuchs> if not: probably have to use a ppa for that  (the usual applies: ppas are third party sources and hence used at your own risk, etc. pp. blabla.)
[09:33] <Andy80> hi
[09:33] <Andy80> my clock applet on Ubuntu 14.04 crashed and I don't know how to restart it....anyone can help me please?
[09:34] <cynicallemon> Cuppa_coffee, how are you trying to resize partition?
[09:34] <Cuppa_coffee> gparted
[09:35] <cynicallemon> Cuppa_coffee, gparted live cd?
[09:35] <Cuppa_coffee> no, gparted from the ssd
[09:35] <Cuppa_coffee> or cant i edit the partitions that way?
[09:36] <cynicallemon> you will have to unmount it to resize
[09:36] <Cuppa_coffee> or not mount it at all by using a live cd?
[09:37] <gry> oops, not even seeing a ppa which contains gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[09:38] <cynicallemon> yeah, boot from a live cd - gparted or any distro with gparted
[09:38] <Fuchs> according to reviews on the extensions homepage 3/4 people say it doesn't work with their ubuntu 14.04
[09:38] <Fuchs> not sure whether that is a version issue.
[09:38] <Fuchs> but then I am hardly a gnome expert (more the opposite), so someone else might be more helpful. Good luck.
[09:39] <Cuppa_coffee> cynicallemon, thanks. I'll wrestle with a live cd/usb :)
[09:43] <Amaze-balls> Morning !
[09:46] <nvt> do I break something If i have package X (perl sript) installed from repository and I edit it manually, the path is /usr/bin/
[09:47] <Fuchs> nvt: it will be overwritten when the package providing it gets updated
[09:47] <Fuchs> nvt: maybe create your local copy in a place that comes first in $PATH
[09:47] <Fuchs> or an alias or a wrapper or whatever
[09:51] <nvt> thanks
[10:12] <hem> hi I can from indicator-touchpad disable the touchpad, but I cannot configure it. Under systemsetting I only have option for mouse. When I run synclient -l. This is what I get.
[10:12] <hem> Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[10:12] <hem> Any one with a solution?
[10:16] <hem> Device 'FSPPS/2 Sentelic FingerSensingPad'
[10:25] <chrishawker> Hello all, I have a Huawei E3276 4G-LTE USB modem on the Optus Network in Australia, how can I get it to work on Ubuntu 14.04?
[10:34] <soon> I'm running some php script of a local LAMP -- I want to store user-data securely on an encrypted USB drive. I've created the encrypted USB drive and have my LAMP up and running. I can save to folders in /var/www without problem, but not to the USB drive ... a permissions problem I'm guessing
[10:34] <AndroUser> Hejsa
[10:34] <soon> What would be the appropriate way to solve this? chmod 666 the USB drive or something else?
[10:35] <camille_> o
[10:35] <AndroUser> I
[10:35] <camille_> ''il y a quelquen
[10:35] <chrishawker> soon: users will call the php files from the flash drive through LAMP?
[10:35] <DJones> !fr | camille_
[10:36] <AndroUser> Mercy
[10:37] <soon> chrishawker: no the LAMP runs as standard (user: www-data), I just want the php script to put_file_contents into a folder on the encrypted USB
[10:37] <AndroUser> Hallo i  user in lubuntu
[10:40] <chrishawker_> soon: "chown www-data:www-data /path/to/folder/on/flash/drive -R"
[10:41] <chrishawker_> that will change the ownership of the folder to www-data which will grant full access to that specific folder while keeping the rest of the flash drive secure.
[10:43] <soon> thats what I though ... don't work though :-?
[10:44] <chrishawker> :/
[10:44] <chrishawker> try "chmod 777 /path/to/folder/on/flash/drive -R"
[10:45] <chrishawker> yes it will make it world writable however it is for you to make sure that you get the folder right.
[10:45] <chrishawker> if you do not want the permissions to be recursive, remove the -R.
[10:47] <alexi5> do you guys know of any opensource wiki software that can search the content of pdf files ?
[10:48] <chrishawker> the wiki will scan pdf files?
[10:49] <alexi5>  just looking for wiki software that can search the content of documents not just the name of the document
[10:49] <alexi5> and other metadata
[10:49] <gry> mediawiki can
[10:49] <trijntje> alexi5: what is your defintion of 'wiki' ?
[10:50] <k1l_> alexi5: do you really mean wiki? or do you mean a desktop tracker?
[10:50] <gry> a website multiple people can edit. pretty much like cms, but they should be able to register.
[10:50] <gry> that's how i define it at least :)
[10:51] <alexi5> what i am looking for is a software that will alow me to store documents that will be available for a group of people
[10:51] <alexi5> and also allow for creating wiki articles
[10:52] <JoshH99> hello, I'm having issues with installation of php modules. according to phpinfo, none of the modules i installed are being listed. phpmyadmin needs php5-json in order to do anything, so I installed that along with other extensions. I don't seem to have ANY extensions loaded or any running extension ini files anywhere. there is no /etc/php5/mods-available directory. I'm running php5-fpm, nginx, and mariadb on this box. any
[10:52] <JoshH99>  help would be greatly appreciated
[10:54] <camille_> ml
[10:54] <camille_> salut
[10:54] <trijntje> alexi5: and where does the 'searching in pdf' part come in?
[10:55] <alexi5> sometimes i may need to upload pdf document
[10:55] <camille_> i'm french
[10:55] <bcvery> !fr | camille_
[10:57] <trijntje> alexi5: but you dont need to search the text in a pdf document to upload it right?
[11:03] <gry> JoshH99, hi.
[11:03] <gry> JoshH99, please check your logs in /var/log, maybe /var/log/apache, see if they have something useful.
[11:03] <JoshH99> gry: also want to note again that I am using nginx, not apache
[11:04] <gry> JoshH99, then /var/log/nginx/ I think.
[11:04] <JoshH99> gry: I've checked /var/log/nginx/error.log and /var/log/php5-fpm.log and nothing abnormal is there
[11:08] <ntz> hello
[11:08] <gry> hm
[11:09] <ntz> can't ggl it out .. where do I find a list of sbin/init exit codes ?
[11:09] <ntz> /sbin/init: eror while loading shared libraries: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libjson-c . so . 2 : cannot read file data : Eror 21
[11:09] <ntz> [     2.776457] Kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00007f00
[11:09] <ntz> seems like the hw problem
[11:09] <millerti> How do I install 32-bit libraries?  ia32-libs doesn’t seem to exist anymore.
[11:09] <gry> JoshH99, let's do it one by one. isolate 1 extension, describe how you tried to install it, I'll see where we can go from there.
[11:10] <compdoc> ntz, if it is a hardware problem, better to test the hardware than rely on exit codes
[11:11] <ret2libc> [color]
[11:11] <ret2libc> bar_more = red
[11:11] <ret2libc> chat = white
[11:11] <ret2libc> chat_bg = default
[11:11] <ret2libc> chat_buffer = white
[11:11] <ret2libc> chat_channel = white
[11:11] <ntz> thats assumption
[11:11] <unopaste> ret2libc you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:12] <JenniferB2> hi folks, I am trying to edit /etc/environment
[11:13] <JenniferB2> but this line at the bottom doesnt seem to work:
[11:13] <JenniferB2> #PATH="${PATH}:${JAVA_HOME}/bin:${GROOVY_HOME}/bin:${GRAILS_HOME}/bin:"
[11:13] <JenniferB2> sorry, remove the comment
[11:13] <ntz> "#" means comment
[11:13] <JenniferB2> the path is actually just set with the dollars ${}
[11:13] <JenniferB2> they are not being evaluated
[11:14] <JenniferB2> http://pastebin.com/s9T4dVQR
[11:14] <JoshH99> gry: I have php5-fpm installed and running, at least as far as the core goes. If I attempt to run apt-get install php5-json, apt states that it's already the latest version. So, I try apt-get install --reinstall php5-json, and a file is written to /usr/include/php5/ext/json/php_json.h. Otherwise, nothing else is created. Nothing in mods-available or anywhere (checked for *json* with find).
[11:14] <JenniferB2> is this the wrong syntax? I understand you can use dollar signs in bash scripts
[11:14] <ntz> JenniferB2: why are you editing etc/environment, do you know what this file is good for ?
[11:14] <ntz> probably you'd rather edit etc/profile instead
[11:15] <JenniferB2> ntz, because whenever I use sudo /intellij/idea.sh it complains that those things  are not set
[11:15] <JenniferB2> that is why I want to set them for all users
[11:15] <JenniferB2> globally
[11:16] <JenniferB2> it is also a problem when trying to create launcher icons
[11:16] <ntz> so use etc/profile and not etc/environment
[11:16] <JenniferB2> is that for all users?
[11:17] <ntz> yes
[11:17] <JenniferB2> even outside of terminal?
[11:17] <ntz> and each have to re-login in order to apply new changes
[11:17] <JenniferB2> ntz, i might disappear soon then
[11:17] <JenniferB2> but is this outside of the shell as well?
[11:18] <ntz> what do you mean ? define ``outside of the shell''
[11:18] <JenniferB2> i think you know... outside of the terminal ... for isntance .bashrc is only set within a terminal
[11:19] <ntz> JoshH99: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[11:19] <JoshH99> ntz: mistaken tag or intentional?
[11:20] <ntz> JoshH99: mistaken tag ?
[11:20] <ntz> oh
[11:20] <ntz> ah yeah, sorry for h-light
[11:20] <JoshH99> ntz: yeah ;)
[11:20] <ntz> damned nick autocompletition JoshH99
[11:27] <ign> stock
[11:27] <ign> stock
[11:29] <Guest78979> hi I am using 14.04 on a x86_64 HP laptop. I've fglrx installed. I'm running both unity and kde on same system. By switching between them at LOGIN :)
[11:29] <JenniferB2> ntz, sudo ./idea.sh results in No JDK found. Please validate either IDEA_JDK, JDK_HOME or JAVA_HOME environment variable points to valid JDK installation.
[11:30] <JenniferB2> whereas just ./idea.sh does not
[11:30] <Guest78979> However, in Unity the theme of 'DROP-DOWN' menu has turned *dark* which makes it unable to read. How do I reset unity.
[11:30] <Guest78979> Using unity-tweak-tool --reset doesn't solve problem permanently. It relapses to previous unreadable them.
[11:30] <Guest78979> *theme
[11:30] <ntz> JenniferB2: 1) why do you run it with sudo for a gods sake ?
[11:31] <JenniferB2> becuase
[11:31] <gry> because what?
[11:31] <JenniferB2> that is no the question here
[11:31] <ntz> yes, it is
[11:31] <JenniferB2> no, some software need that some time .. i want a solution that is applicaple always
[11:32] <JenniferB2> why shouldn't sudo be able to run a java program?
[11:32] <JenniferB2> I am loggin out
[11:32] <ntz> JenniferB2: you're are little linux puppy not knowing howto set env vars so please pay more attention to what we say .. don't run it with sudo and it will work
[11:32] <function9> Guest78979: it is only recommended to have only one DE installed in your system. Failure to comply would/can cause consequences. Use vbox if you like to have different DE
[11:33] <Guest78979> function9, true.
[11:33] <gry> what is vbox?
[11:34] <ntz> virtual box
[11:34] <JoshH99> gry: virtualbox
[11:34] <gry> ok
[11:34] <daniel31> hi all. i'm trying to transfer some files to a windows computer using a newly-formatted fat32 usb disk but the filesystem wont mount as rw. I am the owner of the mountpoint and I have tried to fsck.. no luck
[11:36] <daniel31> anyone? this is driving me up the wall!
[11:37] <ntz> daniel31: mount -vv -o uid=$your_uid,rw /what /where
[11:38] <ntz> daniel31: for fat is not ownership over mountpoint enough
[11:39] <JenniferB2> did I miss something?
[11:39] <daniel31> apparently not!
[11:39] <compdoc> everything! you missed everything!
[11:39] <JenniferB2> daniel31, why is that apparant?
[11:41] <daniel31> jennifer: wont convo. :-) ntz: when disk is mounted (as ro) it complains that its mounted already. when its unmounted it complains that the special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist :-S
[11:46] <daniel31> anyone? I really dont understand why writing files to an empty (reformatted, under ubuntu) USB disk is such a problem for linux. OSX and windows can write to the same disk partition just fine!
[11:46] <gry> you did not describe what happens when you try to write
[11:47] <daniel31> it says the destination is read only
[11:49] <adamcunnington_> Last night (currently at work on windows), I was trying to copy some app files (within etc/lib/) to a memory stick so i can transfer to a new ubuntu installation. However, I was getting "cannot create symbolic link errors". However, it works without error when transferring to an external HDD. Why is this? Is it down to the format?
[11:49] <soon> For the record: I had problems mounting an encrypted USB memory and writing data to it from the local webserver (user: www-data). In the end, using ecryptfs to mount a folder in my ~ and chown to www-data and setting 'others' to noting ... I got what I wanted
[11:49] <gr33n7007h> daniel31, try sudo mount  -o rw,remount -force /dev/sdc1 /mnt/
[11:50] <daniel31> gr33: thanks. but it still says the destination is readonly.
[11:50] <chrishawker> hello all, i am back.
[11:51] <adamcunnington_> I want to hide windows partitions on my ubuntu installation, I created the file 99-hide-disks.rules in etc/udev/d.rules/ but i can still see them
[11:52] <daniel31> ah
 Guest78979: it is only recommended to have only one DE installed in your system. Failure to comply would/can cause consequences. Use vbox if you like to have different DE
[11:53] <gry> is this documented anywhere?
[11:53] <gry> i mean i know only 2 flavors are supported, gnome and unity, but i didnt know that more than one DE breaks things
[11:53] <daniel31> the problem is with nautilus. after gr33's command forced the fs to remount as rw, root was owning the mount point. a simple chown fixed this. but nautilus falsely still claims the destrination is read only. any idea why?
[11:53] <Ben64> gry: only 2 flavors are supported? since when?
[11:53] <gry> its something i experimentally did prove, but seeing it documented would be adorable
[11:55] <gry> Ben64, officially i think, unity and gnome. xfce and other things are only community support only
[11:55] <daniel31> what is the difference between commiunity supported and officially supported for a project like ubuntu?
[11:56] <DJones> gry: I think one of the consequences are is that you can have issues with menus (Probably more so with other flavours rather than Unit)y where you can end up with apps from say gnome in the KDE menu system, so you end up with cumbersome menus, thats all I can think of anyway
[11:56] <NthDegree> some community supported stuff breaks Ubuntu
[11:56] <NthDegree> friend tried ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop
[11:56] <Ben64> and yeah, having multiple doesn't break things or have "consequences" just you might have 3 different text editors in your menu and that may bother you
[11:57] <gry> NthDegree, i installed xubuntu-desktop and gnome-shell. now compose key no longer works when i log in to xfce.
[11:57] <NthDegree> Ben64: he did have stuff break.  His boot time was ridiculous slow because it prefetched all desktop assets
[11:57] <daniel31> gr33: the command didnt work. the fs is still ro.
[11:57] <Ben64> NthDegree: i find that unlikely
[11:58] <NthDegree> Ben64: he also had Mint stuff
[11:58] <Ben64> well theres your problem
[11:58] <NthDegree> Ben64: it killed mdm
[11:58] <Ben64> mint does all sorts of wacky stuff, thats why they have their own support channel
[11:59] <function9> gry: i read it somewhere online, I've been a lot of researching from the kernel bug of systemd_udev to plymouth and nvidia/ati compatability issues. I read so much, my mind is cluttered now, and I have no idea how I stumbled on that. sorry :(
[11:59] <gry> function9, it's ok, you encouraged some insight about few things from other people.
[12:00] <gry> Ben64, you i think didn't tell what is actually supported. you disagreed but didn't tell me your view. unless i missed it
[12:00] <farley> bom dia a todos
[12:01] <farley> bom dia
[12:01] <farley> bom dia unopaste
[12:01] <NthDegree> gry we have no Kubuntu support any more, lubuntu was never official
[12:01] <gry> NthDegree, and xubuntu support?
[12:02] <NthDegree> gry: not sure
[12:02] <Ben64> where is this support you're getting
[12:02] <Ben64> because they're all supported in here
[12:02] <gry> Ben64, i am referring to the paid support options (i know about irc channels of those distros which are helpful, too)
[12:02] <daniel31> there are paid support options?
[12:02] <gry> also nice to know that they're supported here, i didn't know that
[12:02] <daniel31> how?
[12:02] <gry> of course
[12:03] <retrosenator> I just did apt-get install libcurl-nss-dev and it uninstalled wine
[12:03] <retrosenator> why would it do that?
[12:03] <retrosenator> it did install libcurl
[12:04] <gry> it should have told you in the log, probably check /var/log/apt/history.log at the bottom
[12:04] <Ben64> i'm not seeing any package named libcurl-nss-dev
[12:04] <Ben64> where are you getting this from?
[12:05] <adamcunnington_> I want to hide windows partitions on my ubuntu installation, I created the file 99-hide-disks.rules in etc/udev/d.rules/ but i can still see them
[12:05] <retrosenator> why would it do that? can I find the reason?
[12:06] <^Lestat> I installed mysql via boostrap.sh for vagrant and I get this  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:06] <Ben64> retrosenator: that is not an ubuntu package. any dependency problems are on you
[12:06] <gry> adamcunnington_, when you cross post, please tell which other channels you've asked in to avoid duplicate effort. (you've also asked at ##linux)
[12:07] <adamcunnington_> gry: sorry - it was because i received no response from either
[12:07] <gry> you asked at the same time, give them some 20 mins first i believe
[12:07] <gry> retrosenator, the log path i gave would be a first thing i would read
[12:07] <DJones> retrosenator: Ben64 I'm guessing the package was meant to be http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libcurl4-nss-dev
[12:09] <bicky> how to completely uninstall ubuntu ?i am unable to install windows 8 in my other laptop....
[12:10] <retrosenator> I just installed wine back and it didn't uninstall libcurl
[12:10] <retrosenator> I think it's possibly a bug in apt
[12:10] <^Lestat> I can manually install via apt-get just fine
[12:10] <GazzaBaza> I'm wanting to copy an entire drive to a .img file
[12:11] <GazzaBaza> The drive is 500GB, one partition, NTFS
[12:11] <bicky> plzz help
[12:11] <Ben64> GazzaBaza: dd if=/dev/<drive> of=/path/to/the.img
[12:11] <GazzaBaza> I'm wanting to boot off a ubuntu live cd and copy the drive to a Windows 7 share via gigabit ethernet
[12:12] <GazzaBaza> Ben64: Can I then mount that file in disk management on a windows 7 machine?
[12:12] <kagumu> Hello
[12:12] <Ben64> GazzaBaza: you'd have to ask ##windows about that part of it
[12:15] <bicky> i googled but coul not get ny help....now that laptop is dead coz it can only play ubuntu in live mode..ubuntu would fail to install completely..and windows cant detect any hard drive
[12:16] <Ben64> bicky: you can erase the drive by deleting all the partitions in gparted, not sure if that will help windows 8 get installed though
[12:17] <London3D> Good afternoon.
[12:18] <kagumu> bicky, try boot repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair, your boot loader/grub is  not loading or is missing
[12:18] <London3D> When I log in via SSH there's a count of how many updates are pending, where is that number stored?
[12:20] <adamcunnington_> If i hide a mount (using ENV{UDISKS_IGNORE}:="1" point, can I still bind to it?
[12:21] <craigbass1976> I need to get audio and video into my computer and stream it out.  I think vlc will take care of streaming it out, but I'm not sure how to get video from a camera in.  There's a Dazzle device I've got, but it doesn't work with linux.  Anyone know of one that does?
[12:21] <exarkun> craigbass1976: gstreamer
[12:22] <craigbass1976> exarkun: what about hardware?
[12:22] <craigbass1976> between the camera and the computer
[12:22] <exarkun> *Between*?  A USB cable?
[12:22] <exarkun> I don't understand.
[12:25] <xtass> wo yongde shi   linux mint
[12:26] <xtass> are we?
[12:26] <xtass> are you?
[12:29] <_xeNtle_> How to reset the grub passwd?
[12:29] <circ-user-STeyy> London3D: The command "/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check"
[12:30] <_xeNtle_> Please help me!
[12:34] <GazzaBaza> If i boot off a ubuntu 14 live cd, does it bypass the ntfs security?
[12:34] <GazzaBaza> if I mount ntfs volumes
[12:36] <trijntje> GazzaBaza: what ntfs security?
[12:38] <circ-user-STeyy> !ntfs
[12:38] <who_me> does anyone know how to disable panning for the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[12:40] <craigbass1976> exarkun: there are three or four cameras plugged into a "mixer" and that sends out an analog signal via RCA or S-Video.  I need to get that into the computer and stream it out.  I'm wondering what hardware works best in ubuntu for capturing.  I think I can stream it out in vlc
[12:42] <exarkun> craigbass1976: It sounds like all your constraints are in place already.  I'm not sure I understand what question you're asking.  Is it "what is the vlc command to get video from an RCA or S-Video connected camera?"
[12:42] <exarkun> Or maybe it's "My video input card seems unsupported, what should I buy to replace it?"
[12:44] <prawnsalad> hi, using precise, what would cause the background job calling 'aptitude safe-upgrade -s' to use 100% cpu?
[12:44] <prawnsalad> it keeps stalling the machine for a good 5-10seconds while it does it :/
[12:45] <p1l0t> Does anyone know what the .pki folder permissions are supposed to be? I guess it's for nss. Right now it is set to root:root. chromium-browser keeps saying failed to create .pki/nssdb directory. I have read that it can be fixed by changed the owner to me instead of root but is this safe?
[12:45] <_ramok> hi
[12:45] <_ramok>  is there a way to easily debug an upstart script? for some reason it says, that my processes are running, but if i ps aux |grep processname, i don't get an output
[12:45] <GazzaBaza> thanks ubotto
[12:47] <llutz> p1l0t: ~/.pki you mean? owner/permission are  you:you 700
[12:47] <craigbass1976> exarkun: the latter -- which devices work well for video capture
[12:47] <p1l0t> llutz: OK so it must have been installed as root or something I'll change it back
[12:47] <exarkun> craigbass1976: Okay.  I have no clue.  Good luck.
[12:48] <craigbass1976> exarkun: dubbah.  :)
[12:48] <azharh_> join #dgplug
[12:48] <rooter_> hi
[12:48] <lord4163> I am having a problem with KDEnlive, it says Not supported video codec libx264
[12:48] <Lee_Cruise> U盘无法制作UBUNTU启动盘org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.gi._glib.GError: Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:48] <Lee_Cruise>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/service.py", line 707, in _message_cb
[12:48] <Lee_Cruise>     retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
[12:48] <Lee_Cruise>   File "/usr/share/usb-creator/usb-creator-helper", line 239, in Format
[12:48] <Lee_Cruise>     block.call_format_sync('dos', GLib.Variant('a{sv}', {'erase': GLib.Variant('s', '')}), None)
[12:48] <Lee_Cruise> gi._glib.GError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.Failed: Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object
[12:48] <unopaste> Lee_Cruise you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:49] <Stinky_Feet> prawnsalad: I have never seen that. The -s switch means it's only a simulation. Can you find the parent pid using ps -ef when it happens?
[12:50] <Lee_Cruise> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7765452/
[12:50] <prawnsalad> Stinky_Feet: will give it a go, hopefully it spikes up pretty soon
[12:50] <nichlas> does anyone know what the preferred control panel is these days? Earlier times it was cpanel.
[12:50] <philinux> prawnsalad;~ aptitude is deprecated now
[12:51] <prawnsalad> philinux: well this is some system service - not something ive put in myself
[12:52] <raymai> hi
[12:52] <raymai> trying this out for the first time
[12:53] <Pici> prawnsalad: are you using byobu?
[12:54] <prawnsalad> Pici: nope. but the motd when i ssh in does display number of upgradable packages, etc. perhaps its something related to updating that?
[12:56] <Pici> prawnsalad: shouldn't be.  You can check the process tree to see if there is something else calling it though: ps axjf
[12:56] <ysh> readarray A < file.txt && echo ${#A} ... outputs 49 but there are only 10 lines in file
[12:59] <prawnsalad> Stinky_Feet: Pici: managed to find whats calling it via the parent pid. turns out its a monitoring script
[12:59] <prawnsalad> thanks for the pointers :)
[13:14] <AndroUser> Hello
[13:15] <nith1210> Hi.
[13:17] <nith1210> !ask
[13:18] <PowerKiller> !patience
[13:19] <farley> alguem sabe como compilar um Diver
[13:19] <[conrad]> Hello everyone. Regarding LTSP, is there anyway I can verify the LDM_DIRECTX on a thin client? I've adjusted the lts.conf, and updated the image without any issue as I have before, but the performance seems the same, and I just want to make sure the value was properly updated before investigating anything else. I've already asked in #ltsp about an hour, but there are very few people and I hadn't heard back yet.
[13:19] <Pici> !br | farley
[13:26] <jess44> hi
[13:26] <adamcunnington__> Hi, I want to connect to my home pc (which runs remina) from work which is windows and uses remote desktop connection program. What do I need to make this work?
[13:27] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: open the correct firewall ports and connect to it - that simple
[13:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I have this question about /etc/hosts when i go to my "domain" i get this error "502 Bad Gateway Host Not Found or connection failed"  127.0.0.1       waffles.. everytime i type in waffles it doesnt work only when i type 127.0.0.1
[13:28] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: is the correct port for remmina 5900?
[13:28] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: what does the doucmentation say ?
[13:28] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: can't find it, this was from a forum that i got 5900
[13:28] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: if i'm connecting to it FROM work, do i only need to open the port on my home pc or will the port need to be open at work too?
[13:28] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp sounds like it's not listening on that ip address
[13:28] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: both home and work
[13:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ikonia: what?
[13:29] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: oh, no way i'm going to be able to open a port at work
[13:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i want waffles not 127.0.0.1
[13:30] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: it's very doubtful any corperation will allow that
[13:30] <ikonia> GuyThatNeedsHelp "I want waffles" ? what does this mean ?
[13:30] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: sucks :|
[13:30] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: yet teamviewer works just fine
[13:30] <jess44> hi, im having trouble getting hashcat to do bruteforcing
[13:30] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: then you maybe able to open the right port if your work allows that
[13:31] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: do you mean change the port that remina listens on to what is opened at work?
[13:31] <jess44> ?
[13:31] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: and then just open that port at home?
[13:31] <Pici> jess44: I'm sorry, thats not something that we provide support for in this channel.
[13:31] <jess44> where ?
[13:31] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: that's up to you how to approach it
[13:31] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: i'm asking if that would work in theory.
[13:31] <jess44> where can i find support ?
[13:31] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: I don't know your work network so can't say
[13:32] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: nothing to do with work - i'm asking if in theory, a port is open at work, can i change the port remmina listens to and then open that port at home
[13:32] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> instead of typing just localhost or 127.0.0.1 in my browser for the apache thingy i went into /etc/hosts and changed the word localhost then i was able to type waffles in my browsers url and see my work
[13:32] <Pici> jess44: If they have a support channel, or if there is a security channel around.
[13:32] <jess44> ????
[13:32] <ikonia> adamcunnington__ it is to do with work
[13:32] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> and now i get an error
[13:32] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: I don't know your works network, I don't know if it does packet inspection, or anything like that
[13:33] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: that's not what my question asked, you can read "if in theory, a port is open at work" to mean "the port is open at work"
[13:33] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: can you read "in theory doesn't matter"
[13:33] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: what matters is reality
[13:33] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: course it matters - i was the one who asked the question!
[13:33] <ikonia> and your works network is the key
[13:34] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: i was asking about a theoretical situation, as explicated by the inclusion of "in theory". If i was asking about reality, that would have been explicitly omitted as previously. I was creating a theoretical situation to bring understanding which could then be applied to solving the real problem systematically
[13:34] <ikonia> adamcunnington__ in theory matters not to your situation
[13:34] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: your works network is factual and has rules/restrictions, thats what matters
[13:34] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: i'll decide what does and doesn't matter to my own systems of learning and understanding
[13:35] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: then you should be able to know the answer to your own question if you are skilled enough to judge what matters/doesn't matter
[13:35] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: i'm not at solving the problem stage, i'm at understanding the problem stage
[13:35] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: sorry. done. thanks though.
[13:35] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: the problem is your ports are blocked
[13:35] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: the entire point is some other ports are *probably* open
[13:35] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: as we use remote desktop software at work over WAN
[13:36] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: right, and then it goes to reality does your network do things like packet inspection,
[13:36] <ikonia> which is what I said at the start
[13:36] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: i know exactly what you meant. My point was "if those things didn't apply, would it work". If you had responses yes, then i gain understanding, i can then find out if those restrictions do/don't apply by asking IT at work
[13:36] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: but you imposed your method of disecting and understanding on my process and now we're having this verbose discussion
[13:37] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: you can connect to any ports that are open
[13:37] <ikonia> that is basic IP networking
[13:37] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: that was the answer to the "in theory" question
[13:37] <ikonia> if a port is open can I connect to a daemon listening on it "sure"
[13:37] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: basic is a relative term to one's understanding - it was that which i was trying to clarify. On earth, ground is required before you can jump
[13:37] <ikonia> it's basic tcp networking
[13:37] <ikonia> adamcunnington__: no, it's not
[13:43] <adamcunnington__> ikonia: show me how basic is objective... objectively
[13:43] <ikonia> no
[13:44] <ikonia> carry on trouble shooting your problem
[13:45] <sprung> Hi. I have had an open askbuntu posting for a week but haven't gotten any replies http://askubuntu.com/questions/490413/why-do-my-dns-settings-keep-having-to-be-reset
[13:45] <ikonia> sprung: just ask your question
[13:45] <sprung> ikonia, it's lengthy, and in the link
[13:46] <ikonia> then wait for ask ubuntu to respond
[13:46] <sprung> ikonia, you're a piece of work, you know that?
[13:46] <adamcunnington__> sprung: there are other people than ikonia who may be able to answer your question here. Might want to idle for someone willing to help - i would if i could!
[13:47] <nith1210> !offtopic | adamcunnington__
[13:47] <Pici> er.. I'm not sure that was needed.
[13:47] <ikonia> sprung: no need for insults,
[13:47] <sprung> ikonia, no need for you at all.
[13:48] <nith1210> Personal attacks are not necessarry, ikonia does lots.
[13:48] <Pici> Move on.
[13:49] <viz> Hi
[13:49] <function9> hi
[13:50] <function9> :)
[13:50] <adamcunnington__> nith1210: meant for me? I've not said anything offtopic AFAIK
[13:52] <MotherMGA> Is there a solution to Google Music integration with 14.04? It appears as though now that Rythmbox is Python3, and various dependent libraries are python2 only, support for this has stopped.  Is there an alternate solution to play gmusic other than rythmbox-gmusic?
[13:53] <adamcunnington__> MotherMGA: does google play music manager work?
[13:54] <MotherMGA> I assume it does, but that doesn't *play* music.
[13:54] <MotherMGA> I currently don't have it installed because I already have my music uploaded.
[13:57] <TBotNik> All: Getting errors trying to install gedit on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS.  Errors in PB at: http://pastebin.com/3hP2vBL8.  Have not been able to resolve these issues! Help needed!!!
[14:00] <leni> it seems to be a problem of architecture
[14:01] <chrs_> i'm having a little problem connecting to a vnc server via ssh tunnel
[14:01] <chrs_> when i run tightvncserver with the "-localhost" option, my tunnel connection doesn't work
[14:01] <chrs_> but if i leave it off it doesn't work
[14:01] <chrs_> i don't want to leave it off for security reasons
[14:01] <nith1210> TBotNik: did you build libjpeg8 i386 yourself? Are you using a PPA?
[14:02] <leni> it seems to be a problem of architecture @TBotNik
[14:02] <chrs_> on my local machine (not the vnc server), i'm connecting like: ssh -L localhost:5901:REMOTEHOST:5901 user@remotehost
[14:02] <chrs_> if the -localhost option is on i get "channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused"
[14:04] <migue> hi
[14:04] <function9> hi
[14:04] <nith1210> chrs_: are you sshing into the vnc server or is it a second hop?
[14:05] <nith1210> chrs_: in your ssh command, the "REMOTEHOST" is what resolves on the other side of the ssh tunnel; you may want -L localhost:5901:localhost:5901
[14:05]  * migue 
[14:05] <TBotNik> nith1210: Not sure where that came from.  When installing Gedit, got a message to run "apt-get upgrade", did so and then all these errors.  Evidently the "LiveDVD" I ran original install from had issues, since this is new install.
[14:06] <bbreaadcast> exit
[14:06] <nith1210> TBotNik: well your output kind of hints that you have a custom version of libjpeg8 (8d-1); Because of this, you're dependencies are all thrown out of wack.
[14:07] <chrs_> nith1210: i am sshing into the vnc server
[14:07] <chrs_> nith1210: tried what you said, it worked. thanks
[14:07] <nith1210> TBotNik: that's compounded by the fact that you're getting the "packages cannot be authenticated".
[14:07] <chrs_> i guess i didn't understand the ssh command
[14:07] <nith1210> chrs_: np, happy hunting.
[14:07] <leni> @nith1210, what do you mean by custom version??
[14:08] <leni> From the output, it seems a self-compile
[14:08] <nith1210> leni: ubuntu's version of libjpeg8 will always contain the word "ubuntu" due to their versioning standards. TBotNik's version of libjpeg8:i386 is 8d-1
[14:08] <leni> oh okay. Thanks
[14:09] <nith1210> leni: np
[14:10] <TBotNik> nith1210: So how do I fix this?  Must have been TeamViewer install that pulled in the "8d-1" signature.
[14:10] <arnuld> Hi all,
[14:11] <arnuld> I want to install Ubuntu for my AMD64 machine
[14:11] <arnuld> but all I see are Live DVD images
[14:12] <DJones> arnuld: Thats right, its a live dvd image
[14:12] <arnuld> is there no standard install DVD image (standard install DVD images have much larger package collection tn Live images)
[14:12] <nith1210> TBotNik: How did you install teamviewer?
[14:12] <jessid> hello guys, I have being having lots of troubles trying to share muy internet connection.... this is what i want: I am connected via eternet to the internet and I have a wifi card; this is the one I want to use to share. I have followed https://tumutanzi.com/archives/3293 but the "client" never gets connected. I guess this has something to do dhcp... some help, please????? thanks in advance...
[14:13] <DJones> YOu can put it on a USB stick if you'd prefer, the image is too big to fit on a cd now, you can use the minimal install iso, but that will download most packages from the internet during the install
[14:13] <DJones> !minimal | arnuld
[14:13] <DJones> arnuld: THere used to be an alternate install iso, but that was discontinued quite a few releases back
[14:14] <arnuld> I wanted to have GNOME than Unity but again GNOME live DVD only --> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/release/
[14:14] <TBotNik> nith1210: Really didn't!  The 64B .deb install pkg has major dependency errors so have a ticket open with them on this.  Think that maybe where these issues are originating, but have no idea how to reset, since I never had to before!
[14:14] <bugtraq> please help me
[14:15] <Morgawr> hello, I have a fairly specific question.. I need to replace my compiz instance within a script and I can do that with compiz --replace &, however I noticed that after replacing it, all the newly spawned applications from unity retain the same (modified) environment variables as the script that replaced compiz
[14:15] <Pici> bugtraq: you need to ask a question first.
[14:15] <arnuld> DJones: well, I wanted most packages on DVD, not through net because I have a is very small bandwidth connection
[14:15] <bugtraq> how install vrtualbox on bugtraq??
[14:15] <Morgawr> and this has modified LD_LIBRARY_PATH and PATH and some other variables that I don't want to be system-wide, is there a way to make compiz spawn a completely new (like after login) environment?
[14:15] <Pici> bugtraq: what is "bugtraq"?
[14:16] <bugtraq> http://www.bugtraq-team.com/
[14:17] <Morgawr> mostly, I'm looking for a way to start a bash session with the same environment variables as the default compiz would have when the system boots up
[14:17] <Morgawr> is it possible?
[14:17] <DJones> arnuld: There's only really three iso's now, the minimal, live desktop or server iso's, there used to be a seperate alternate install with a text based installer and a full dvd iso with a lot of language packs (that was about 4Gb in size)
[14:17] <Pici> bugtraq: That is not a supported variant of Ubuntu, you will need to use their support resources for help.
[14:17] <Morgawr> I tried using bash --login or env -i and then bash --login but it does not work (for example $HOME and $DISPLAY are unset)
[14:17] <bugtraq> http://www.bugtraq-team.com/downloads support
[14:18] <bugtraq> for ubuntu 32
[14:18] <arnuld> is GNOME DVD recommended to install ?  I mean without  any install issues or special configurations   ?
[14:18] <bugtraq> karnel same
[14:18] <Pici> bugtraq: Thats fine, but seeing as it isn't Ubuntu, we can't support it.  There is no telling what changes they have made to it.  You can ask in ##linux
[14:19] <bugtraq> example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G7_t9OilDg
[14:19] <bugtraq> look at movie
[14:19] <Pici> !derivatives
[14:19] <nith1210> TBotNik: First, you should do a sudo apt-get update
[14:19] <DJones> bugtraq: This channel only supports the offical derivatives of Ubuntu, bugtraq isn't supported here, you'll need to ask their own support network
[14:19] <helmut_> hi
[14:20] <nith1210> TBotNik: Afterwards, please try apt-get -s install libjpeg8:i386=8c-2ubuntu8 and paste the results to pastebin (note the lack of a sudo)
[14:20] <bugtraq> #linux
[14:20] <bugtraq> oppss
[14:22] <arnuld> "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" -- is this the GNOME package name ?
[14:22] <Morgawr> can anybody help me? I'm having a hard time figuring out the environment to spawn a clean compiz, because if I replace it normally all the exported env variables of that session override the rest of the session
[14:22] <Morgawr> I just want to spawn a bash shell with only the default env variables (as it is straight out of boot)
[14:22] <Morgawr> (and no, --login does not do that)
[14:23] <nith1210> Morgawr: env -i bash will do something similar, is that what you're looking for?
[14:23] <Morgawr> nith1210: no, env -i will clear all the environment variables
[14:23] <Morgawr> if I do env -i bash -l then I get a mostly "clean" bash shell, but it will have $HOME and $DISPLAY unset and who knows what else
[14:24] <Morgawr> and this breaks compiz
[14:24] <Morgawr> and the rest of the stack
[14:24] <philinux> Is it safe to Add the following line in /etc/pam.d/polkit-1:   session optional pam_xauth.so to get pkexec to work with gui apps
[14:28] <Morgawr> so.. I gues nobody knows :(
[14:28] <bcvery> Morgawr, have you tried asking in #compiz too?
[14:28] <Morgawr> bcvery: this is mostly a bash question, I also asked in ##linux, I'll try asking in #compiz though, thanks
[14:29] <nith1210> Morgawr: What's this for?
[14:29] <Morgawr> I have a script that needs to kill compiz for a while and then restart it, but this script is running with modified env variables and restarting compiz with these new variables propagates them to the whole unity environment
[14:29] <Morgawr> this means that if I open a new terminal after restarting compiz it will inherit the other env variables that I definitely not want
[14:30] <Morgawr> (so, if I break the $PATH and then restart compiz, $PATH will be broken in my whole system)
[14:31] <bezi> elementaryos
[14:31] <nith1210> Morgawr: So you're saying that after restarting compiz the ENV that compiz is run with propogates to new terminals/processes?
[14:32] <Morgawr> nith1210: yes
[14:32] <apeoid> hi folks.  I've got ubuntu installed on a hard drive.  now I want to pull the hard drive and put it in an external enclosure, hook it up to a windows machine, and copy data.  is that difficult?  seems like windows wants to format
[14:33] <nith1210> Morgawr: If I open a terminal, type "export FOO=BAR" then "compiz --replace" then open a new terminal, I do not see FOO in "env"
[14:33] <TBotNik> nith1210: Error was: E: Version '8c-2ubuntu8' for 'libjpeg8:i386' was not found
[14:34] <nith1210> TBotNik: Did you do your sudo apt-get update?
[14:34] <TBotNik> yup
[14:34] <Morgawr> nith1210: I just did it and I see it
[14:34] <Morgawr> export FOO=BAR
[14:34] <Morgawr> compiz --replace &
[14:34] <Morgawr> then open a new terminal
[14:34] <Morgawr> echo $FOO -> BAR
[14:35] <TBotNik> nith1210: Am I missing something in repo list at: /etc/sources.list?
[14:35] <Pici> TBotNik: What does apt-cache policy libjpeg8:i386 say?
[14:35] <macrodup> Hello. I have a very unusual problem with USB.
[14:35] <TBotNik> nith1210: Should I PB the sources.list file?
[14:37] <nith1210> TBotNik: Please PB Pici's suggestion
[14:37] <nith1210> Morgawr: Are you running unity?
[14:37] <Morgawr> yes
[14:37] <macrodup> I bought a bunch of those cheap USB extender cables. Now, I have 2 devices - a wifi dongle and SDR radio dongle. They both work correctly if I plug them using just 1 extender cable. When I try with 2, wifi dongle works fine, but the SDR One yields "dvb_usb_rtl28xxu: probe of 1-1.2:1.0 failed with error -71" in kern.log. What the heck is going on?
[14:38] <apeoid> omg i love linux
[14:39] <fellayaboy> does anyone know if doing a dd on a SSD will damage it?
[14:39] <nith1210> Morgawr: Interesting, x-terminal-emulator does not propogate it but gnome-shell does (I use rxvt-unicode as x-terminal-emulator); Sorry, I can only provide a hacky solution for you.
[14:39] <Morgawr> nith1210: terminator propagates it too
[14:39] <Morgawr> it's messy
[14:39] <Morgawr> :(
[14:39] <fellayaboy> does anyone know if a solid state drive needs to be zero filled? or once you delete a file its totally gone from the drive?
[14:40] <TBotNik> Pici, nith1210: Results: libjpeg8:i386:
[14:40] <TBotNik>   Installed: 8d-1
[14:40] <TBotNik>   Candidate: 8d-1
[14:40] <TBotNik>   Version table:
[14:40] <TBotNik>  *** 8d-1 0
[14:40] <TBotNik>         500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
[14:40] <unopaste> TBotNik you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:40] <Pici> oh dear
[14:41] <nith1210> Oh dear indeed.
[14:41] <Pici> TBotNik: Without seeing the rest, you either a) are running debian, not Ubuntu, or b) have really screwed up your sources.
[14:42] <leni> @apeoid, Windows always tries to format anything that is not FAT or NTFS
[14:42] <leni> try to look for a Windows program that can view non-NTFS/FAT partitions
[14:42] <apeoid> leni, yeah after I asked my question I got the bright idea of using google.  there are some programs to interface but it might be risky to write
[14:43] <leni> Have you tried dual-booting
[14:43] <leni> It makes it simpler
[14:43] <Jeffrey_f> HI - 14.04 login screen users are unreadable.  Kind of looks like the background and text are almost the same color
[14:43] <apeoid> leni, no, but I have booted ubuntu and then mounted the windows drive -ro
[14:43] <leni> As Linux will see the NTFS and copy the data to it
[14:43] <leni> Is Windows hibernated or something??
[14:43] <apeoid> leni, yeah, I have a windows drive I can borrow to do the data swap
[14:43] <leni> Do that then
[14:44] <leni> Much simplet
[14:44] <leni> *simpler*
[14:44] <Jeffrey_f> l
[14:44] <apeoid> leni, no.  I have SSD/HDD windows, and a HDD ubuntu.  because of a cable shortage I'm just disconnecting the windows drives when I run ubuntu, and visa versa
[14:44] <apeoid> I'm gonna set it up properly when I get another sata cable
[14:46] <kantlivelong> hello all.. i have 14.04 installed and grub is stuck on boot. i think im affected by https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741464   is the a recommended solution?
[14:47] <Jeffrey_f> Ubuntu 14.04.  Reinstalled 13.04, upgraded twice 13.10 --> 14.04.  There were some errors on upgrade.  some menus and especially the login screen are unreadable due to background and text being same color
[14:48] <k1l> Jeffrey_f: did you try the guest-account?
[14:48] <Jeffrey_f> how to fix and make sure I have all necessary resources
[14:48] <leni> okay then. good luck. let me know how it turns out. :)
[14:48] <leni> @apeoid
[14:49] <apeoid> right on
[14:49] <apeoid> leni, the current task is to eliminate windows from another computer, so you're doing good work
[14:49] <Jeffrey_f> k1l: I didn't.  The problem starts at the login screen.....slate-greyish/white.  text showing who the user is, is barely readable
[14:50] <k1l> Jeffrey_f: could be due to some theme issue
[14:50] <Jeffrey_f> k1l: The background is the standard background though
[14:51] <leni> @apeoid, why eliminate??
[14:51] <Jeffrey_f> k1l: Suggestions?  reinstall theme?
[14:51] <Jeffrey_f> k1l: How?
[14:51] <k1l> Jeffrey_f: can you make an image of that? i can not imagine what the issue looks like. although make sure you got the right video driver from the ubunut repo running if that is a video card not used properly issue
[14:52] <Jeffrey_f> k1l: can I screenshot the login screen??
[14:53] <apeoid> leni, it's a laptop, so 1 smallish hdd.  windows 7 takes 10 minutes to fully boot up.  then it crashes.  I want to reinstall.
[14:53] <leni> okay then
[14:53] <Jeffrey_f> k1l: brb, let me try
[14:53] <apeoid> also I want to try xubuntu, this distribution called opengeo... comes with all this GIS software installed
[14:54] <apeoid> I feel like recovery partition windows installs are crappy too
[14:54] <leni> No problem, just remember Linux can see Windows but Windows can never see Linux and you're good
[14:55] <apeoid> real reason:  linux is the best I'm never going back
[14:56] <leni> @apeoid, as long as you're sure, welcome to the club
[14:58] <apeoid> I'm just getting started really.  for example, I have this error in pgAdmin (postgresql client) and I would, say for argument's sake, uninstall and reinstall
[14:59] <apeoid> how do I properly uninstall a package and reinstall
[14:59] <Jeffrey_f> k1l: I didn't think I could screenshot the login screen
[15:01] <Symmetria> ./dev/md0        121T   36M  121T   1% /mirror-data
[15:01] <Symmetria> wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[15:01] <Symmetria> finally
[15:01] <Pici> /70/36
[15:01] <Symmetria> man that was a pain in the ass to get configured
[15:02] <Jeffrey_f> How can I ensure that all packages are complete?
[15:03] <leni> @apeoid, apt-get remove <packagename> or for a more thorough removal apt-get purge <packagename>
[15:04] <apeoid> I just found Synaptic Package Manager
[15:04] <leni> Well, I shall not lie. I am more enamored of CLI usage than Package Managers
[15:04] <leni> But if it does the trick, not harm done
[15:05] <genii> leni: The advantage of using apt-get or atp-cache, etc is that it's desktop-agnostic :)
[15:05] <apeoid> yeah I feel like I'm going to delete a piece of something
[15:05] <apeoid> just comforted by gui
[15:06] <leni> @genii, sorry if I was misleading but I was referring to the GUI apt-gets.
[15:06] <leni> Not the apt-get itself. That I have found completely useful :-D
[15:07] <apeoid> is there a linux equivalent of the windows registry
[15:08] <leni> @apeoid, no.
[15:08] <leni> As far as I know
[15:08] <langhun> hello
[15:09] <leni> You just look for the config file responsible for the functionalities you want and you edit it
[15:09] <jayar> on my webserver (running 12.04.4 LTS) when it boots, i have to login, open natulis, click on this 2ndary drive to mount it... how can i do that remotely via ssh?
[15:09] <leni> @apeoid
[15:09] <Pici> apeoid: there is dconf, but it has a much stricter structure than the windows registry, plus it is mostly used for gui applications only.
[15:10] <apeoid> how would I look at the config file for pgAdmin?
[15:10] <TBotNik> Pici: Sorry had people at my desk!  I run Kubuntu (KDE) 12.04, but lots of the libs, for devleopment, point to Debian, since not available via ubuntu/Kubuntu.
[15:10] <leni> @Pici, thanks for that.
[15:11] <apeoid> I get this error in pgAdmin III:  ../src/common/menucmn.cpp(715): assert "!IsAttached()" failed in SetInvokingWindow(): menus attached to menu bar can't have invoking window
[15:12] <leni> @apeoid, hmmm...the first line of your error gives a clue '/src/common/...'
[15:12] <leni> But I think it would be dangerous to tinker if you don't know what you're doing
[15:13] <apeoid> leni, I'm letting synaptic package manager re-install
[15:13] <apeoid> no dice
[15:13] <leni> I would recommend you first troubleshoot
[15:14] <TBotNik> Pici: You there?
[15:14] <leni> Re-installing should be a last resort @apeoid
[15:14] <apeoid> didn't work anyway
[15:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> need help with "mpd" mpd ~/Music  Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted  Failed to bind to '[::]:6600': Address already in use
[15:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :(
[15:16] <leni> reinstalling didn't work??
[15:17] <jayar> on my webserver (running 12.04.4 LTS) when it boots, i have to login, open natulis, click on this 2ndary drive to mount it... how can i do that remotely via ssh?
[15:17] <ionilinux> e
[15:17] <Pici> TBotNik: sorry, on a call with confusing financial terms and I need to pay attention ;)
[15:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :(
[15:18] <genii> GuyThatNeedsHelp: If you do:  lsof -i:6600    ...it should tell you what's already using that port
[15:19] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> genii: it doesnt show anything
[15:19] <TBotNik> Pici: Your turn for interruptions! LOL
[15:19] <nith1210> TBotNik: did you actually point sources.list or something in sources.list.d to the debian repos?
[15:19] <nith1210> TBotNik: or did you simply install some debs?
[15:20] <apeoid> leni, I have an unstable release somehow
[15:20] <TBotNik> Pici: So do I need to PB the "sources.list" file?
[15:22] <genii> GuyThatNeedsHelp: You can also try: sudo netstat -np | grep 6600
[15:22] <Mer> Hello. I have trouble installing the amd catalyst tm proprietary driver in ubuntu 12.10-32 bit system. the install interface appears but text is not visible. Could you assist?
[15:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ~/Music$ mpd Black\ Guy\ -\ Music.mp3  Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted  line 1: Invalid word character
[15:24] <philinux> Is it safe to Add the following line in /etc/pam.d/polkit-1:   session optional pam_xauth.so to get pkexec to work with gui apps
[15:24] <OerHeks>  ~/Music$ ???
[15:25] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i was in the music directory?
[15:26] <TBotNik> Pici: Sources.list in PB @: http://pastebin.com/DWKXDJRq
[15:31] <leni> @apeoid, Hmmm...what have you noticed that makes you say that??
[15:33] <apeoid> leni, I started searching pieces of the error and found a pgAdmin 1.18.1 bug page... I don't even know what I was looking at.  it said unstable on it.  however, when I looked it up it showed pgadmin 1.18.1 was stable
[15:33] <apeoid> I think.  I don't even know.
[15:34] <apeoid> when I go to the ubuntu software center it shows postgresql and pgadmin
[15:35] <apeoid> oh software center shows all your repositories I guess... nevermind
[15:35] <leni> @apeoid, Hmmm...you can use the mailing list for problems. It is a pity they do not have a fully fledged forum. But your problem may be legit
[15:35] <apeoid> ubuntu GIS repositories are really old
[15:35] <apeoid> I was hoping to use current software
[15:35] <leni> @apeoid, the pgAdmin mailing list
[15:36] <leni> how are you installing the pgAdmin
[15:36] <apeoid> it comes with postgresql
[15:36] <leni> if what's in the repositories is old, then you have to build it yourself from source
[15:36] <TBotNik> nith1210: Most are using repos, but I write BASH scripts for most of my installs, so I have them all documented and to be consistant accross computers, put the scripts on my dropbox, but dropbox is not installing on this computer due to the dependency issues.
[15:37] <apeoid> leni is that unusual?
[15:37] <apeoid> leni, or rather, something I should get used to?
[15:37] <leni> for me, nope ;-)
[15:37] <leni> And yes, the sooner you get used to it the better
[15:38] <leni> When you Google pgAdmin, it seems to be separate from postresql
[15:38] <nith1210> TBotNik: On line 60 you explicity include the debian contrib repository; that'll confuse lots of things.
[15:38] <leni> So I think pgAdmin is a separate package from postgresql
[15:38] <Pici> TBotNik: It is one thing to use a third party repository that provides both Ubuntu and Debian agnostic packages in the same path. It is quite another to specify debian's actual repositories.
[15:39] <apeoid> can I see which repsitory the software came from?
[15:39] <Pici> apeoid: apt-cache policy packagename
[15:39] <leni> @apeoid, You simply have to look for GUI another front end if pgAdmin is not being maintained in a way you can keep up with
[15:39] <TBotNik> nith1210: Can comment it out to get past these installs but will have to pull it back in for final round of installs which includes the developers tool set.
[15:39] <killer> Hey , where can I vie top downloaded apps in ubuntu software center , both free or paid
[15:39] <killer> vie -->view
[15:39] <leni> sorry *another GUI front end*
[15:40] <Adonyss> hi
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> apeoid: do the packages you have do what you need?
[15:40] <Jeffrey_f> I installed 13.10 and upgraded 13.04 -> 13-10 -> 14.04.  I had some errors.  How do I make sure that I have complete packages and that all the software is properly installed??
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Jeffrey_f: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:41] <nith1210> TBotNik: do you use synaptic?
[15:42] <apeoid> ActionParsnip, no.  pgAdmin III is crashing on a vital tool... when I click the plugin button it says: ../src/common/menucmn.cpp(715): assert "!IsAttached()" failed in SetInvokingWindow(): menus attached to menu bar can't have invoking window
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> apeoid: have you reported a bug
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> apeoid: if you can name the package name https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=packagenamehere      you may find a PPA with a newer version
[15:45] <apeoid> I let it send the error report
[15:46] <leni> @apeoid, that's not the same thing as a bug report
[15:46] <alan_> hello guy`s
[15:46] <Jeffrey_f> ActionParsnip: Showed 825 packages not upgraded.....doing dist-upgrade now.  Let see if that fixed my ills
[15:47] <apeoid> granted but that's the best I can do right now
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Jeffrey_f: sounds like a plan
[15:47] <leni> A bug report is a more detailed (and personal) statement of the problem, conditions under which it occurred and how it can be replicated
[15:47] <leni> I'm sure you can do better ;-)
[15:48] <leni> Anyways, a bug report means a faster response
[15:48] <leni> An error report is something I'm sure they are used to
[15:50] <annihilator009> what else can i do with ubuntu ternimal?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: nearly anything, the GUI stuff is usually a GUI for terminal commands
[15:51] <apeoid> leni, I want to install from source.  can I do that without uninstalling everything first?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: email, chat, web browsing can all be done in terminal. Even twitter use via twidge and so forth
[15:51] <nith1210> annihilator009: zenity --info --text "Hello World"
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: install sl and run it. that make me smile :)
[15:53] <nith1210> lol sl; I'm keeping it.
[15:55] <leni> @apeoid, no. Mixing up source and distro packages has caused quite a few headaches that last long after installation into everyday use of the program. I think its better you remove everything first, just to be on the safe side.
[15:55] <annihilator009> what else can i do with ubuntu ternimal?
[15:55] <leni> If you get any issues, let me know
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> apeoid: you can use checkinstall to make a deb of your built binaries
[15:56] <annihilator009> How can i check cpu usage of my pc?
[15:57] <nith1210> annihilator009: top
[15:57] <leni> @ActionParsnip, sl is hilarious. Are there any other programs like it? It'd be so useful, lol
[16:00] <karbofos> can't edit /smack/load file
[16:00] <karbofos> cause of vim fsync error
[16:00] <karbofos> what to do?
[16:01] <leni> karbofos: isn't /smack/loadfile a directory??
[16:01] <leni> If so, you shouldn't be able to edit it
[16:02] <karbofos> no it's a file where rules are loaded during init
[16:03] <karbofos> tutorials are saying that it is possible to edit /smack/load with root
[16:04] <maheshkumar> fsmk
[16:05] <karbofos> what is fsmk?
[16:06] <annihilator009> How can i check cpu usage of my pc?
[16:06] <spoofy> Hello
[16:07] <karbofos> annihilator009: top
[16:07] <Pici> annihilator009: top, uptime
[16:07] <acetakwas> how can I monitor my data usage please?
[16:07] <eeee> annihilator009: dash > system monitor
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: htop
[16:07] <robairt> annihilator009: vmstat 5
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: or for GUI stuff there is Conky and whatnot
[16:09] <annihilator009> can u guys be clear?
[16:09] <eeee> annihilator009: you be clear.. what is your specific need
[16:09] <Pici> annihilator009: there are many different ways of doing things.
[16:09] <robairt> annihilator009: in terminal enter either top, or vmstat
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: we have given you concise solutions to your requirement. How can we be 'clear'
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: lets turn it around. How exactly are we not being clear?
[16:10] <robairt> annihilator009: or go look up conky
[16:11] <leni> I think annihilator009 wants a definitive and exhaustive list of commands as well as how they differ from each other
[16:11]  * cfhowlett just read this thread is alternating voices of Samuel L. Jackson and Morgan Freeman.  Chilling ...
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: how?
[16:11] <annihilator009> i got it
[16:11] <robairt> wouldn't that be nice
[16:11] <annihilator009> thanx
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: so, were we clear?
[16:11] <annihilator009> yes
[16:12] <annihilator009> what else can i do with ubuntu ternimal?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: so why ask us to do someting we already did...?
[16:12] <spoofy> I need some help with apparmor profiles. I have apache with fastcgi running on ubuntu 12.04lts and I want to implement apparmor. Is there someone expirienced with setting up apparmor profiles per vhost in apache?
[16:12] <robairt> annihilator009: everything
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: you can use twitter via twidge. You can read rss feeds, check your email
[16:12] <annihilator009> can you be clear robairt?
[16:13] <annihilator009> how can i check email ActionParsnip ?
[16:13] <robairt> annihilator009: see ActionParsnip
[16:13] <annihilator009> how can i check email ActionParsnip ?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: mutt is one example
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: or alpine
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: mutt is decent
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> annihilator009: and very well documented
[16:16] <iamwhoiam> annihilator009: i installed and tried mutt this week... true, it is quite good - better than expected..
[16:16] <annihilator009> i said using ternimal
[16:16] <annihilator009> am i being clear here?
[16:17] <Pici> annihilator009: There are thousands of programs for the terminal. There are many for each task.
[16:18] <annihilator009> Pici:eloborate
[16:18] <Pici> annihilator009: there is no one program to check email. There are multiple, and you have a choice as to what programs you want to use for each task.
[16:18] <Pici> There is no way that we can enumerate each of them with their pros and cons here. It is up to you to decide.
[16:20] <annihilator009> can u suggest me any good program Pici?
[16:20] <cfhowlett> annihilator009 any one of the ones you listed would work well
[16:21] <annihilator009> where cfhowlett ?
[16:21] <iamwhoiam> annihilator009: for email mutt and alpine that ActionParsnip suggested are good...
[16:21] <cfhowlett> annihilator009 mutt or alpine
[16:21] <annihilator009> ok thanks
[16:21] <annihilator009> i appreciate that\
[16:21] <annihilator009> ]your help
[16:26] <apeoid> how do I see what programs exist on the computer so I can uninstall them?
[16:27] <cfhowlett> apeoid dpkg -l
[16:27] <TBotNik> nith1210, Pici: OK edited the sources.list file and rebooting.  See you soon!
[16:27] <apeoid> seriously?
[16:27] <spoofy> Is there anyone using libapache2-mod-apparmor? I really desperate and need some help with it...
[16:27] <apeoid> how do I sort out from the 1000 packages which were installed by a ppa
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[16:28] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | apeoid
[16:28] <apeoid> ah, thanks Beldar
[16:28] <Beldar> apeoid, no ppa has a  1000 packages.
[16:30] <apeoid> no, but from the (on the order of) 1000 packages, how do I sort which were installed by a certain ppa.  that was the q
[16:30] <annihilator009> what else can i do with ubuntu ternimal?
[16:30] <llutz> annihilator009: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:31] <Beldar> apeoid, You would have saved a list of them as you were given a y/n on the install originally if you need to sort, none of which is supported here.
[16:32] <Beldar> apeoid, There is no ppa flag in other words.
[16:33] <apeoid> it looks, though, that you can sort by repository/ppa in synaptic package manager, and ubuntu software center
[16:33] <apeoid> the guis
[16:33] <apeoid> am I mistaken?
[16:33] <daemonmontero91> anyone know how to install a kali linux on a usb drive
[16:34] <llutz> daemonmontero91: ask in #kali-linux
[16:36] <apeoid> I feel like re-installing ubuntu from scratch
[16:36] <apeoid> maybe time #14 will be the magic bullet
[16:37] <cgt> When exactly will 13.10 be EOL'd? At the end of July or at some point during?
[16:38] <Beldar> cgt, You can see this on a eol wiki.
[16:38] <apeoid> ppa purge gets me: Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt
[16:38] <apeoid> ppa
[16:38] <cgt> !eol
[16:38] <cgt> Beldar: it just says July
[16:38] <apeoid> is this the right input?  sudo ppa-purge ppa:apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/
[16:39] <Beldar> cgt, I'm the last person you want to ask for info easily found. ;)
[16:40] <cfhowlett> daemonmontero91 kali is not supported here - ask them for help
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> cgt: 9 months support, was released in 20(13) in the (10)th month (october)
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> cgt: so its dead easy to work out
[16:41] <cgt> ActionParsnip: I know it's july...
[16:41] <cgt> I'm not an idiot
[16:42] <cgt> I was wondering exactly what was meant by "july 2014", if it meant through out july or just until some point in july. I found something on a mailing list that says "through july 2014", so I figure it's EOL'd from august 1st.
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> cgt: the exact day will be announced nearer the time
[16:42] <cgt> All right
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> cgt: I've seen 17th July here http://ubuntulook.com/2014/06/21/ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander-reaches-end-of-life-on-july-17-2014/
[16:43] <cgt> thanks
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> 9 days
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> i'd just clean install Trusty and ride that til 16.04 comes out :)
[16:46] <cgt> Yeah, I should upgrade. It's just that last time I tried 14.04 I experienced a regression causing some text, particularly in terminal emulators, to look blurry in an odd and uncomfortable way... might be a problem with the nvidia driver.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> cgt: clean install?
[16:46] <cgt> yes, on a clean install
[16:46] <cgt> I usually do clean installs
[16:49] <apeoid> I'm about to clean the desk of all computer shit and play cards
[16:51] <animos> hi guys i was wondering if the reason why i play video on youtubes playlists and they skipped a video might be because of my firefox browser or my ubuntu operating system. what do you guys think?
[16:51] <cgt> that has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[16:51] <animos> thats what i was thinking
[16:52] <cgt> it's either YouTube or Firefox
[16:52] <animos> alright thanks.
[16:52] <animos> i was also wondering if they were gonna fix the problem with precise pangolin where it freezes up?
[16:53] <cgt> that's too vague a bug description
[16:53] <animos> i notice it happens more when i have too many tabs open
[16:54] <cgt> You should seek help with Firefox in some other channel, maybe #firefox
[16:54] <cgt> if that exists
[16:55] <animos> do they have a tech support number?
[16:55] <cgt> a phone number?
[16:55] <animos> yes
[16:55] <cgt> I'm guessing they do not
[16:55] <animos> alright thanks
[16:55] <cfhowlett> animos look at www.mozilla.org    for support options
[16:55] <cgt> there's only community support as far as I know
[16:55] <animos> ok i appreciate it
[16:57] <robairt> is there another name for a checkbox where you can only chose one?
[16:57] <cgt> radio button
[16:57] <robairt> cool, thanks
[17:02] <m1chael> i am having some strange issues with xubuntu (closing my laptop lid renders the computer useless till rebooting due to black screen) i've tried a lot from reading this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[17:04] <domenico> ciao
[17:05] <jessid> hello guys, I have being having lots of troubles trying to share muy internet connection.... this is what i want: I am connected via eternet to the internet and I have a wifi card; this is the one I want to use to share. I have followed https://tumutanzi.com/archives/3293 but the "client" never gets connected. I guess this has something to do dhcp... some help, please????? thanks in advance...
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> jessid: if you set an IP on the client system, is it ok?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> jessid: what security do you have on the wifi?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> jessid: is the thing your system is connected to via ethernet not a wireless router?
[17:08] <jessid> ActionParsnip i have tryed with wep and with no security. i havent tryed assigning an ip to the client... how can i know the range that could assign? and the last question I dont understand...
[17:10] <Foxtrot88> hi
[17:10] <Foxtrot88> how are you guys?
[17:10] <VulcanRidr> Greetings folks. Question about the krb5 package. Anyone know when the fix for UDP ping-pong (CVE-2002-2443) is going in to the package? The fix is at https://github.com/krb5/krb5/commit/cf1a0c411b2668c57c41e9c4efd15ba17b6b322c
[17:11] <Foxtrot88> i have some issues with a wifi adapter in mi pc, but i can't find answers about it, someone can help me?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> jessid: you will know that as you setup the wifi interface.....
[17:11] <domenico_> ciao
[17:11] <Foxtrot88> T_T
[17:11] <Foxtrot88> anyone?
[17:11] <Foxtrot88> xD
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> jessid: the IP will be in the same network mask as the IP you gave the wireless device.
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> Foxtrot88: what wifi chip?
[17:12] <Foxtrot88> trendnet n 150 wifi usb adapter
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> Foxtrot88: thats not the chip
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> Foxtrot88: sudo lshw -C network     will show you the chip
[17:12] <Foxtrot88> ._.
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Foxtrot88: what is printed on the plastic casing has zero bearing on the chip inside
[17:13] <Foxtrot88> i'm not in my computer right now, i guess i need to ask later -_-
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Foxtrot88: then why ask if you cant do anything we advise?
[17:15] <Foxtrot88> sorry :(
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Foxtrot88: genuine question...why ask?
[17:15] <LonelyDanbo> what's a commandline for a text based audio mixer for pulseaudio? (because pulseaudio mixer doesn't work}
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> LonelyDanbo: alsamixer is available.
[17:16] <Foxtrot88> i don't know just... i don't know sorry dude :(
[17:16] <ResupineEarth> Hello
[17:16] <LonelyDanbo> Foxtrot88, thanks. you saved my butt
[17:17] <Foxtrot88> why??
[17:17] <jessid> ActionParsnip i cant configure all that with the gnome-control-center ... can I?
[17:17] <LonelyDanbo> oh. well ... you saved my... short patience then.
[17:17] <Foxtrot88> xD
[17:17] <Pici> VulcanRidr: for which release?
[17:17] <ResupineEarth> Hi can someone tell me how i can add disk space to ubuntu, using dual boot with windows?
[17:18] <LonelyDanbo> ... is there a way to close frozen apps? this one under WINE won't let me close it.
[17:18] <daftykins> ResupineEarth: without buying another disk?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> jessid: it will be in the guide you used. The wifi interface will need to have a static IP and (potionally) be giving out DHCP
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> jessid: sounds like a bad guide
[17:18] <VulcanRidr> pici: as far back as 12.04. We're slowly staging to the new lts.
[17:18] <ResupineEarth> yes i have extra disk space in windows that i wanted to add.
[17:18] <Foxtrot88> sorry for my english, but it's a kind of difficult to me try to explain all the problems i already have with the device i put on mi computer, and i don't wanna make you feel like i'm wasting your time. :(
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> jessid: what does the Ethernet on the system you would like to act as a wifi hotsport, connect to?
[17:19] <ResupineEarth> thanks daftykins
[17:19] <LonelyDanbo> I'm using the "close" option from Ubuntu's toolbar and it's not even saying "this app won't close. want us to close it anyway?"
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Foxtrot88: if you cannot run the commands we give to get details, then apply the fixes as we give them it's not very useful
[17:19] <daftykins> ResupineEarth: that's not very easy, as any space you would make in your Windows install - could only be used by moving and resizing the ubuntu partitions too, so it's a big mess really.
[17:20] <VulcanRidr> Pici: Like to see a backport. The patch applies cleanly, we would just rather have it in the mainstream instead of having to recompile and roll and manage that package ourselves.
[17:20] <michaelaguiar> What’s the best way to setup SFTP on a server, and only allow the user to access their site directory?
[17:20] <daftykins> ResupineEarth: are you running out of space already? use http://paste.ubuntu.com to share the terminal output of "df -h" if you can.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> michaelaguiar: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[17:20] <Foxtrot88> ok, so i need to reconnect here when i get home right?
[17:20] <Foxtrot88> then i can ask
[17:20] <michaelaguiar> openssh-server will allow me to lock users to a specific directory?
[17:20] <michaelaguiar> ActionParsnip: do you know of a good guide to use?
[17:20] <ResupineEarth> ok maybe i will someday do a full reinstall of Ubuntu thanks anyway daftykins.  I still have 28gb left but was just worried i will try cheers.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> michaelaguiar: they will have the same access they have as their user, you can add options in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to jail them to $HOME
[17:20] <LonelyDanbo> what do they call it? force close program?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> LonelyDanbo: xkill allows you to click an application and close it
[17:21] <michaelaguiar> ActionParsnip: Well I don’t want to jail them to their home directory, but rather /var/www/usersite.com/
[17:21] <michaelaguiar> I have multiple sites in www, and I want to jail users to their own site
[17:22] <daftykins> michaelaguiar: i've been through this attempted setup but it all gets pretty messy, are you sure you really must provide people with their own access to webspace?
[17:22] <michaelaguiar> daftykins: Yea, I don’t NEED sftp, but would prefer it do to security.  Regular ftp would work I guess
[17:22] <michaelaguiar> I just have multiple users, and I dont want them getting into other people’s sites, want to know the best way to handle it
[17:22] <ResupineEarth> Thanks daftkins i pasted the info
[17:22] <michaelaguiar> The user doesn’t even need ssh access, just ftp
[17:23] <LonelyDanbo> ActionParsnip, thank you.
[17:23] <daftykins> ResupineEarth: you'd need to share the link the address bar has by pasting it into here now so we can see
[17:24] <daftykins> michaelaguiar: do you already have apache only running each site as the username that it belongs to?
[17:24] <ResupineEarth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7766669/  sorry here it is
[17:25] <LonelyDanbo> would a USB headset's mic be in alsamixer? I only see front and rear mic which is on my case.
[17:25] <Pici> VulcanRidr: I suggest at least logging a bug for this in Ubuntu. I'm going to see if I can find someone to look at that CVE.
[17:25] <daftykins> ResupineEarth: that's a pretty tiny disk! :) yeah i think you'd want to be looking at buying another way before you run out of space there
[17:25] <michaelaguiar> daftykins: The permissions are set to use www-data as the owner / group for all of them.
[17:25] <VulcanRidr> Pici: Will do. It's a 12 year old cve...:)
[17:26] <VulcanRidr> Off to launchpad.
[17:26] <ResupineEarth> Yes I may have to seriously think about it thanks daftykins
[17:26] <daftykins> michaelaguiar: yeah so once you gave someone access, they could upload malicious PHP and gain a shell as www-data and take over all other sites.
[17:26] <michaelaguiar> daftykins: ah I gotcha.  So what do you recommend?
[17:27] <Pici> VulcanRidr: that actual commit is from 2013 though.
[17:27] <VulcanRidr> True.
[17:28] <vins>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/vins/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_3422.query
[17:28] <daftykins> michaelaguiar: well first off, this entire topic falls under web admin so it's beyond the scope of this channel really. #ubuntu-server or an apache channel if they exist would be more relevant. it was a long time ago, but ultimately i think i got something running using some kind of apache module that allowed each site config file to specify a username for execution, which meant the apache processes ran as that user. then i set their h
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> vins: why force?
[17:29] <vins> hello everybodies
[17:30] <daftykins> michaelaguiar: i never cracked it 100% but a combination of executing as the user, who is chroot'd and maybe considering FTP or changing the user's default shell to scponly nearly got there :)
[17:31] <championofcyrodi> can someone help me with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server
[17:31] <daftykins> championofcyrodi: you need to be more specific
[17:32] <championofcyrodi> I am using method 2 for the client configuration (01proxy) and all of the fetches fail with apt-cacher offline 503 service not available:
[17:32] <championofcyrodi> however port 3142 is open and the apt-cacher daemon is listening on it
[17:33] <michaelaguiar> daftykins: Hmm, so if I change the permissions to a site directory to that user, how do I do it in a way that PHP can still do what it needs to, in order for the sites / apps to work properly?
[17:33] <michaelaguiar> daftykins: but not have access to do anything crazy
[17:34] <daftykins> michaelaguiar: the apache instance running as that username will be executing the PHP module as that user too, so it will work fine
[17:38] <championofcyrodi> Ooo.. I think I got it.  I had mistakenly enabled 'offline mode' thinking that if the ISP connection was down in the future, it would use cached data.  However,  it doesnt seem to work at all if there is nothing cached.  I guess you only enable offline mode when you intend for the apt-cacher to always be offline and are doing manual updates to the archives.
[17:39] <championofcyrodi> So does using apt-cacher as an apt proxy for the client still cache the packages on the apt-cacher host?
[17:40] <championofcyrodi> So that If i install updates on machine 1, then machine 2,3,4... would be fetching their packages from the apt-cacher on my LAN?  Or is it just acting as a proxy and not caching at all?
[17:40] <championofcyrodi> (provided machines 1,2,3,4... all have the proxy enabled)
[17:40] <daftykins> never used it so i can't comment sadly
[17:41] <daftykins> i handle that scenario by scp'ing the debs between hosts
[17:41] <daftykins> but i only have two :D i can see how n+ would get very annoying
[17:46] <saxgeek> I know this isn't an Ubuntu question specifically, but I don't know where to ask this. Is there a boot manager that can boot USB drives on a computer whose BIOS doesn't support it. When I tried PLOP, my flash drive appeared read-only to the OS and I couldn't save any files to the disk.
[17:47] <daftykins> saxgeek: what's the main task you're trying to achieve?
[17:48] <saxgeek> Run Puppy Linux on that computer from a USB flash drive.
[17:49] <daftykins> saxgeek: so you got as far as using it but couldn't save...
[17:49] <daftykins> burn a DVD? :)
[17:49] <daftykins> i'm afraid you're right that that's beyond the scope of the channel
[17:50] <saxgeek> On all my other computers, I can save my documents and stuff to folders on the root of the drive, but when I use PLOP on that computer, I get error messages about the drive being read-only.
[17:50] <daftykins> yeah, not an ubuntu program so can't comment.
[17:51] <saxgeek> daftykins: Do you know where I could ask about that?
[17:52] <daftykins> #linux maybe
[17:52] <daftykins> but if you're pulling data, why not pull the disk?
[18:08] <taeric> Anyone have any good references on trying the Ubuntu Tablet tools on a regular touchscreen computer?
[18:08] <holstein> !tablet
[18:08] <taeric> I'm assuming it is not the best experience, but curious on exactly what makes it terrible.
[18:08] <holstein> taeric: not sure if they are even in the main repos..
[18:09] <taeric> I couldn't find them last I looked.  And... apologies, I didn't see the #ubuntu-touch channel
[18:09] <taeric> I short circuited my search here.
[18:11] <holstein> taeric: you know, KDE has some tablet spcific setups, AFAIK
[18:11] <holstein> specific*
[18:11] <taeric> I didn't realize that.  Will look into them.
[18:12] <taeric> I have to confess to having gotten a tablet, and then promptly not used most of the touch/tablet features.
[18:12] <daftykins> taeric: this is all lovely, but this channel is about support so if you can keep it on-topic thanks
[18:13] <taeric> Will do, moved to the touch channel.  And will make sure I'm even on topic there.  Apologies!
[18:14] <TBotNik> nith1210, Pici:  Hey I'm back.  Running install scripts again to see where I get!
[18:15] <TBotNik> nith1210, Pici: Making some progress, cause now querying me for responses on the installs
[18:15] <skilz> How can I set an icon/font picture up the top left of the menubar where it has the name of the highlighted app like in os x
[18:16] <skilz> Like how Apple has a picture of an apple, I want a picture of tux
[18:16] <ikonia> skilz: that would be in a theme
[18:16] <Pici> VulcanRidr: Did you file that bug? I got information from a developer to make sure that you mark it as a security vulnerability.
[18:16] <Pici> VulcanRidr: If not, I'll file it myself.
[18:16] <skilz> I want to do it myself
[18:16] <skilz> For unity
[18:16] <ikonia> skilz: ok, so read the theming documentation
[18:17] <skilz> Ok
[18:17] <ikonia> how to make a unity theme
[18:17] <ikonia> something like that
[18:23] <TeraJL> hi there, i have an USB asus n13 on lubuntu 14.04, i've updated lubuntu and now it shows up on the corner "Wi-Fi network (Ralink 802.11 n WLAN)" but it get "wi-fi is disabled by hardware switch", even tough i've ran "rfkill unblock all" and "rfkill list all" returns me saying both soft and hard blocked as no
[18:23] <skilz> Is there some nice program to show me weather on my desktop? Also cpu/ram
[18:24] <skilz> I don't want conky or gkrellm
[18:24] <skilz> Somethime like gdesklets
[18:24] <TeraJL> ps: this laptop has the wifi broken, and the laptop wifi has "hard blocked yes" even if i unblock it  but it does not work any way... am i missing something?
[18:25] <ikonia> skilz: conky ?
[18:25] <ikonia> skilz: ooh sorry, the weather, never mind, my mistake
[18:25] <skilz> You don't know conky?
[18:25] <ikonia> cpu/ram conky
[18:25] <ikonia> I know conky fine
[18:25] <skilz> I want something a bit more visual
[18:25] <TBotNik> nith1210, Pici: Started with the "server packages" install and running fine!
[18:25] <ikonia> conky is very skinnable
[18:25] <skilz> Make the most of my gtx 770 sli setup
[18:25] <ikonia> skilz: well, sli won't work well
[18:26] <ikonia> and your graphics card won't do the work on things like conky
[18:26] <nith1210> TBotNik: Did you have to reinstall libjpeg8 first?
[18:26] <ikonia> the cpu will do it as it has to update it
[18:26] <skilz> Yeah it's only Windows gaming
[18:26] <ikonia> right, so sli is of no value/interest here
[18:26] <skilz> Not for conky
[18:26] <TBotNik> nith1210: No
[18:27] <ikonia> not for anything in linux
[18:27] <skilz> But I am talking about using programs like draw from the gpu like compiz fusion, cairo-dock etc
[18:27] <ikonia> skilz: any program will use the cpu to update it's monitoring
[18:28] <ikonia> that will not be done on the gpu
[18:28] <skilz> I'm more so referring to the visual aspect of the app.
[18:29] <ikonia> right, so things like conky can be very agressivly skinned
[18:29] <ikonia> same for gkrelm
[18:29] <skilz> How do I get the nvidia splash when xorg starts?
[18:30] <ikonia> skilz: in the xorg logo true
[18:30] <ikonia> in the xorg.conf
[18:30] <ikonia> in the nvidia device settings logo true ;
[18:34] <GnuBoi> I;m running a fresh ubuntu server apache default installation no nothing and it gives me this error? 162.243.194.200
[18:34] <GnuBoi> http://162.243.194.200/
[18:34] <ikonia> GnuBoi: that's not an error
[18:34] <ikonia> thats just you typing the ip address
[18:34] <ikonia> what's the error
[18:35] <GnuBoi> ikonia: The error is "Connection refused
[18:35] <GnuBoi> Description: Connection refused"
[18:35] <ikonia> GnuBoi: ok, so something is blocking you from hitting that IP Address
[18:36] <OerHeks> GnuBoi, you might need to forward port 80 in your router to the server.
[18:36] <ikonia> who said he was at home ?
[18:36] <ikonia> that's a public IP address
[18:36] <GnuBoi> OerHeks: I'm at office firewall.
[18:36] <GnuBoi> Can you guys see the site? is it only me?
[18:36] <GnuBoi> under this firewall
[18:36] <GnuBoi> viewing it
[18:36] <ikonia> GnuBoi: it looks like either there is no web server running, or something is blocking it
[18:37] <ikonia> nothing is listening on port 80 of that ip address
[18:38] <GnuBoi> ikonia: Ok. Should I try an write a simple node app that listens on port 80 and say hello world and see if that's the issue?
[18:38] <movedx> (12.04 LTS) How can I actually, for real, increase the number of open files permitted by a user? 'ulimit -n' reads "1024", but I've set '* soft nofiles unlimited' (and for hard) in limits.conf, and rebooted the system. I still run into the "too many open files" issue when my Go app runs.
[18:38] <ikonia> GnuBoi: why would you do that ?
[18:39] <GnuBoi> ikonia: Then what wouldbe the course of action?
[18:39] <ikonia> GnuBoi: make sure the webserver is running, and nothing is blocking it
[18:39] <GnuBoi> GnuBoi:ok
[18:40] <GnuBoi> Thanks, I was in the process of trying to setup ssl and was playing with apache2 conf files but I decided against it reinstalled ubuntu? Does this may have anything to do with it?
[18:41] <ikonia> GnuBoi: is apache running on your host ?
[18:42] <GnuBoi> ikonia: yes it is
[18:42] <Grmlg> how can newbies make use of askubuntu.com when there is a certain level of reputation required to set the proper labels?
[18:42] <ikonia> GnuBoi: ok, how are you verifying that
[18:42] <fartface> Quick question, there's "chmod" and "chown", but there's also something else for dealing with file permissions--what are they?  I can't remember for the life of me
[18:42] <GnuBoi> ikonia:service apache2 restart says ok
[18:42] <ikonia> fartface: chmod
[18:43] <ikonia> GnuBoi: that IP address is it configured to listen on
[18:43] <fartface> ikonia: I just said other than chmod
[18:43] <ikonia> fartface: that is the command though
[18:44] <movedx> fartface: chmod, chown, chattr
[18:44] <GnuBoi> ikonia: now it works, after a simple service restart. Damn! thanks
[18:44] <fartface> ikonia:  There's another one, I've used it before
[18:44] <fartface> movedx: cheers, chattr was the one I was thinking about
[18:44] <movedx> fartface: Cool.
[18:44] <movedx> fartface: It's one of those ones that is seldom used.
[18:45] <fartface> movedx: Hence why I couldn't remember haha
[18:45] <mjayk> Haya all I have a USB 3 stick which works on mny pc's and works on this pc before I boot into ubuntu 14.04, it shows under lsusb but does not show under lsblk
[18:46] <skilz> Did anyone manage to get Battlefield4 working in Ubuntu?
[18:46] <mjayk> this only happens for the usb 3 port not the usb 2 port
[18:46] <ikonia> chattr doesn't change the permissions
[18:46] <ikonia> skilz: it doesn't work
[18:46] <GnuBoi> skilz:It works for me out of the box
[18:46] <skilz> Is it worth it or will it be too slow?
[18:46] <mjayk> any ideas would be apriciated
[18:46] <ikonia> skilz: it doesn't work ata all
[18:46] <ikonia> GnuBoi: you're runing battlefield 4 on ubuntu linux ?
[18:46] <skilz> What about CoD Ghosts, Diablo 3, Borderlands2, Crysis3?
[18:47] <Grmlg> hello?
[18:47] <mjayk> hello Grmlg
[18:47] <cm13g09> Evening all - cross-posting as this might be a 14.04 problem, but is anyone successfully running AD authentication against a Windows 2008 domain using Winbind?  Should I be using sssd?
[18:48] <GnuBoi> ikonia: nah turns out it was counter strike lol
[18:49] <kaibutsu> guys, i just installed ubuntu for the 2nd time, clean install, 14.04 and when i boot for the first time and log in, there's no UI
[18:49] <kaibutsu> there's no unity bar or anything. if i log out and and in again as a guest, then everything works fine
[18:49] <kaibutsu> is that a common issue? can it be solved?
[18:50] <skilz> How do I rearange the unitybar icons?
[18:50] <skilz> Like if I want to put them in a certain order?
[18:50] <kaibutsu> skilz, just drag it around
[18:50] <kaibutsu> hold it for 1 sec or so and then move it
[18:50] <skilz> Doesn't work
[18:50] <skilz> All the icons move
[18:51] <skilz> Ah yes
[18:51] <skilz> Got it
[18:51] <kaibutsu> :)
[18:51] <ethern0t> hello, need a hand configuring bumblebee on ubuntu 14.04, installed everything but when i run optirun -vv glxgears i get a error [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) No devices detected.
[18:51] <skilz> Also can I make it look like the osx dock?
[18:52] <ikonia> skilz: you can't
[18:52] <ethern0t> ive runned lspci to check busid and setted but still got the error
[18:52] <ethern0t> any hint
[18:52] <Grmlg> kaibutsu: an you pastebin your .xsession-errors?
[18:52] <Grmlg> an/can
[18:52] <kaibutsu> skilz, take a look at a software called Docky...
[18:53] <kaibutsu> Grmlg, can you explain to me how to do so, please?
[18:53] <kaibutsu> btw, i'm on the live image since i can't use the installed version like i said. can't download xchat on the guest section either
[18:54] <Grmlg> kaibutsu: either you copy it manually to the website at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ or you can install pastebinit and use it like "cat .xsession-errors | pastebinit
[18:54] <Grmlg> i see
[18:54] <Grmlg> you need to mount that partition then
[18:54] <Grmlg> not that you paste the file from your livecd :)
[18:55] <kaibutsu> ok. i have it mounted. the "/" partition. how can i paste it to you this information?
[18:56] <Grmlg> walk into your user home by using "cd" and "ls"
[18:56] <Grmlg> should be <mountpoint>/home/<user>
[18:57] <Grmlg> and see if the file .xsession-errors is there
[18:57] <kaibutsu> Grmlg, ooooh... i forgot to mention it... i come from Mint and i installed the system, / , in a separate partition while keeping my /home partition. so this might be it?
[18:57] <Grmlg> oh yes
[18:58] <Grmlg> at least if you used the same username
[18:58] <kaibutsu> i actualy did. "cx61" on both. the only folder on this partition is that one
[18:58] <kaibutsu> and ofc, inside there are the others like videos, downloads, etc
[18:59] <Grmlg> best would be to have 2 seperate user accounts for mint and ubuntu
[18:59] <Grmlg> or did you wipe out mint and just kept /home?
[19:00] <kaibutsu> exactly. i have a 25gb partition for the "/" which was wiped, i have no OS right now besides this poor instalation of ubuntu. and then a bigger partition which is /home
[19:01] <Grmlg> kaibutsu: then you could possibly fix the problem by deleting all those dot files, those that start with a "." because in these are configuration options stored
[19:02] <kaibutsu> Grmlg, and then reinstall the system?
[19:02] <Grmlg> reinstallation should not be necessary, in my opinion
[19:02] <kaibutsu> i see. how can i find these files? they are hidden right?
[19:02] <Grmlg> or hang on
[19:03] <Grmlg> another method would be to rename the existing user directory and create a new one for your user. and then copy the data from there
[19:03] <TBotNik> All: End of day for me, Dr Appointment!  Bye y'all
[19:03] <kaibutsu> oh, yeah, ofc
[19:03] <kaibutsu> it makes sense hehe
[19:03] <Grmlg> kaibutsu: depends which you prefer
[19:04] <kaibutsu> i think that should be easier for a newbie like me
[19:04] <kaibutsu> i'll also reinstall with a different user. it takes like 5 min here
[19:04] <kaibutsu> thx a lot, mate...
[19:04] <Grmlg> kaibutsu: good luck :)
[19:04] <kaibutsu> ;)
[19:07] <calzifer> hi, how can i unbind the super+L key, i would like to use it for something different, then to lock
[19:10] <skilz> Can I make the unity dock look like the osx dock?
[19:10] <skilz> Look like cairo-dock
[19:10] <Grmlg> calzifer: when you install compizconfig-settings-manager you can set that
[19:10] <calzifer> Grmlg: ok
[19:11] <tjoo> what if you combinde the source code of linux and windows open upp a terminal for a third so called "Universe, World, Space ?  As you shot two negativly loaded stars at eatch other a simulation of bigbang can show from it.  But what if we shot 3 positive force togheter would it create all with one and one with everything ? Would it even be a machine a computer ? :P  what if you combinde the source code of linux and windows open upp a te
[19:12] <Grmlg> skilz: are you maybe looking for something like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[19:12] <skilz> Yes
[19:12] <skilz> Grmlg, Will that take over the unity dock?
[19:13] <Grmlg> i think so, yes
[19:15] <coventry> I just plugged in a GPU which I want to use for scientific computation.  The graphics card on my MoBo is fine for display.  However, when I booted it up, ubuntu said there's something wrong with my graphics config.  I'm now in terminal mode.  How can I reconfigure X so that it uses the built-in graphics card?
[19:15] <skilz> Grmlg, So how do I stop unity dock?
[19:16] <Grmlg> coventry: you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:16] <Grmlg> skilz: should be expained on that website i linked you
[19:17] <Grmlg> coventry: or create a new one if no such file exists
[19:17] <skilz> Whereis xorg.conf?
[19:17] <coventry> Grmlg:  Wow, back to the naughties, huh?  There is an xorg.conf.failsafe.  I guess I could try copying that across...
[19:18] <Grmlg> yeah
[19:18] <chrirc> hi... i have 32 gigabytes of ram and i don't use hibernate. Do i really need a swap partition?
[19:18] <ObrienDave> chrirc, no not really
[19:18] <coventry> Grmlg: Thanks, that seems to be working... How can I determine which graphics card is being used?  I would like to keep the GPU free of graphics work.
[19:19] <coventry> Grmlg: Actually, never mind.  Must be the built-in.
[19:19] <chrirc> do you recommend a separate home partition or not?
[19:20] <Grmlg> coventry: i think when you give lspci verbosity like "lspci -vv" it should tell you the ID
[19:20] <ObrienDave> chrirc, I have a separate home partition. seems to work ok
[19:22] <ObrienDave> chrirc, i have found a few programs that install under the root partition, really ate up root space
[19:23] <ObrienDave> flightgear being the worst offender
[19:23] <chrirc> if i will have a separate home partition then how big the root partition should be? I have a hard disk of 128 gigabytes
[19:24] <urielvigilant> I put my internet router with hidden SSid and none of my devices found it with out knowing the SSid name. But with Lubuntu 13.10 it find a old SSiid i used before. This is normal ? ( but dont connect, just found)
[19:24] <urielvigilant> correction: I put my internet router with hidden SSid and none of my devices found it with out knowing the SSid name. But with Lubuntu 14.10 it find a old SSiid i used before. This is normal ? ( but dont connect, just found)
[19:24] <symbN> greetings
[19:25] <ObrienDave> chrirc, most recommend 15 to 20 GB. 10% to 20% of the drive space
[19:31] <chrirc> is there an easy fast way to backup the data(music videos etc) in my home directory for my new installation?
[19:34] <coventry> The new xorg.conf file allowed me to run startx, and allows the standard login manager to start up.  However, when I try to log in, I just get taken straight back to the login manager.  Nothing new is created in my homedir, so I can't get feedback from ~/.xsession-errors.  Is there anywhere else I should look to debug this?
[19:35] <coventry> Well, one new thing in the homedir is ~/.dmrc, when I try logging in with the various options: sawfish, ubuntu, ubuntu 2d, xfce-session.
[19:35] <coventry> I can log into a guest session just fine, so it's something to do with my account...
[19:35] <ObrienDave> chrirc, i use grsync. fairly simple to use
[19:36] <chrirc> never used backup in ubuntu....is it in the repositories?
[19:37] <ObrienDave> grsync is
[19:38] <chrirc> do you think it is just better to copy and paste the /home folder?
[19:40] <ObrienDave> chrirc, you can, but grsync compares files and only sends what changes. after the initial backup, it is fairly quick to backup
[19:40] <hichamat> I have two computers behind router (dynamic Ip), How to set a virtual static IP to connect to one computer from network so I can use ssh, ftp ...
[19:41] <eeee> i have a wifi problem, it keeps disconnecting
[19:41] <chrirc> ok...thanks for your help my friend...see you
[19:43] <kaibutsu> is there a way to fix tearing on 14.04? running an ivy bridge cpu + a geforce 645m here and i get tearing on both graphical chips :/
[19:44] <kaibutsu> makes it a terrible experience to watch videos for instance
[19:44] <Technodrome> does a default uubuntu lamp come with gzip turned on?
[19:52] <Glorfindel> What commands are able to be used in the Grub Rescue> prompt?
[19:53] <skilz> Something bad happened
[19:53] <skilz> I was moving a window around
[19:53] <skilz> and it stuck to the bottom of the screen
[19:54] <skilz> then I closed it an now ANY programs I open at started shrunk at the bottom of the screen
[19:55] <OerHeks> skilz,  hold left ctrl + left mouse to grab window
[19:55] <skilz> You mean left alt?
[19:55] <ObrienDave> skilz, left ctrl key
[19:56] <OerHeks> ehm yes, left alt, ctrl only grabs the header
[19:56] <skilz> I want to know how to make programs start from the centre of the screen and not the bottom
[19:56] <ObrienDave> oops
[19:56] <skilz> Like this http://postimg.org/image/r3r39otxl/
[19:56] <skilz> This is whats happening :/
[19:57] <OerHeks> close it when the programm is in the middle of the screen
[19:57] <skilz> Doesn't work
[19:57] <skilz> Still opens at the bottom again
[19:57] <skilz> Shrunk like that
[19:58] <skilz> Oh
[19:58] <skilz> I think it was conky doing it
[20:01] <kantlivelong> is there a way to downgrade grub in mint 17? i think i am affected by https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741464
[20:01] <kantlivelong> err ubuntu 14.04 (same thing) :)
[20:03] <OerHeks> !mint | kantlivelong  mint has its own issues
[20:03] <kantlivelong> it uses the same package as ubuntu though.?
[20:05] <yank> Greetings folks.
[20:07] <bprompt> kantlivelong:    is a debian based *nix, yes, it also uses .debs
[20:07] <skilz> Whats the name of the latest ubuntu version?
[20:08] <kantlivelong> bprompt: gonna need to look @ the ppa myself.. could have sworn it used debs straight from ubuntu
[20:08] <bprompt> skilz:    stable?
[20:08] <bprompt> kantlivelong:      you could be right... since IIRC Mint is just an ubuntu-based distribution
[20:09] <skilz> bprompt, Yes stable
[20:09] <kantlivelong> yeah its using debs straight from ubuntu. which is why i asked here because its just grub :)
[20:09] <Pici> !trusty | skilz
[20:09] <PCFutbol2> join #xubuntu
[20:09] <kantlivelong> im just curious if its safe to downgrade grub from 2.02 to 2.00
[20:09] <bprompt> skilz:     well... is July 2014.... so the latest will be April's 2014... 4th month of 2014..... thus     14.04
[20:09] <kantlivelong> IE use 13.10 grub-pc-bin on 14.04
[20:10] <adamcunnington> Hi, I'm getting "Unable to mount and." when i boot. It is caused by this line in my fstab; "/mnt/Windows8.1/Documents and Settings/Adam Cunnington" /home/Windows8.1 none bind 0 0
[20:10] <adamcunnington> are the "" just ignored?
[20:10] <aubutu> http://allismen.blogspot.se/
[20:11] <yank> Im using ubuntu desktop 14.04 and Im having an huge problem with unity. I installed Unity Tweaks app to configure my unity look. Well, accidentally, I ticked that option for multiple screens and after that, I clicked on that screen switch button on the unity bar. Everything froze up since my PC hasnt great specs and then I did turned off the computer by holding the power button. Now when I launch ubuntu, both menu bar and unity bar are missing.
[20:11] <broken-mind> does ubuntu is better for game development
[20:12] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, mount that partition in /media/ else you face this issue as your account is not active yet.
[20:12] <OerHeks> *when mount happens
[20:13] <yank> Then I reinstalled unity doing sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get --reinstall install unity.
[20:13] <yank> and then unity --reset-icons
[20:13] <yank> Stills the same
[20:13] <diana> http://www.4rog.eu/2014/07/cinnamon.html
[20:13] <kantlivelong> nvm i found 2.00 on 14.04
[20:15] <adamcunnington> Is it a bad idea to chmod /mnt/ 700 ?
[20:15] <yank> Any thoughts ???
[20:16] <yank> Im using ubuntu desktop 14.04 and Im having an huge problem with unity. I installed Unity Tweaks app to configure my unity look. Well, accidentally, I ticked that option for multiple screens and after that, I clicked on that screen switch button on the unity bar. Everything froze up since my PC hasnt great specs and then I did turned off the computer by holding the power button. Now when I launch ubuntu, both menu bar and unity bar are missing.
[20:16] <yank> and then unity --reset-icons
[20:16] <yank> Stills the same
[20:16] <ObrienDave> yank, we got it the first time
[20:17] <yank> Oh sorry, Im quinda excited with this
[20:19] <ObrienDave> understandable
[20:19] <yank> What ?
[20:19] <adamcunnington> How do i permenantly chmod a directory - by that i mean, ensure that any new contents have the same chmod settings. fstab?
[20:20] <mojtaba> hello everyone
[20:21] <skilz> How can I set what applications I want to open when I login?
[20:22] <ObrienDave> skilz, sessions and startup. add what you want to the list
[20:23] <skilz> ObrienDave, I don't have that option in System Settings
[20:24] <yank> :/
[20:25] <skilz> Whereis xorg.conf ?
[20:25] <skilz> I want to enable nvidia splash screen when xorg loads
[20:27] <OerHeks> skilz, there is no standard xorg.conf, make one if you need it
[20:28] <yank> AFK
[20:29] <OerHeks> skilz, sudo Xorg -configure
[20:30] <Glorfindel> could I repeat my question?
[20:31] <Garvey> Hey room, help pls: after a distro upgrade, do I have to update my repos? They seem to be marked for an earlier version.
[20:32] <Garvey> Is this not a great room for getting ubuntu help?
[20:32] <reisio> Garvey: what's the problem?
[20:33] <Garvey> I've done a distro upgrade to Trusty
[20:33] <Garvey> but my repos all still say saucy: is that an issue?
[20:33] <reisio> is it stopping you from doing something?
[20:33] <Garvey> gnome-chess won't update
[20:34] <adamcunnington> How can i make a chmod "sticky", i.e. apply to future files in the directory. Should i just add a line to be executed in rc.local?
[20:34] <reisio> Garvey: why not?
[20:34] <Garvey> I don't know.
[20:34] <reisio> Garvey: ...what happens when you try to update it?
[20:34] <Garvey> Fresh install loads a past version; hence, I'm wondering about outdated repos
[20:35] <reisio> Garvey: what version do you want?
[20:35] <Garvey> 3.14
[20:35] <Yank> Im using ubuntu desktop 14.04 and Im having an huge problem with unity. I installed Unity Tweaks app to configure my unity look. Well, accidentally, I ticked that option for multiple screens and after that, I clicked on that screen switch button on the unity bar. Everything froze up since my PC hasnt great specs and then I did turned off the computer by holding the power button. Now when I launch ubuntu, both menu bar and unity bar are missing.
[20:35] <reisio> Garvey: of gnome-chess?
[20:35] <coventry> On an ubuntu 12.04 box, logging in with my usual account is just dropping me back into the login manager, with no output to ~/.xsession-errors.  How can I diagnose this?  I can log into other accounts without difficulties.  It tells me when I type in a deliberately bad password, so I know that's not the issue.
[20:35] <Garvey> Reiso: I've got a bug, I think, with the version I've got
[20:36] <reisio> Garvey: there is no version 3.14 of gnome-chess for any version of Ubuntu
[20:36] <Yank> Then I did unity --reset-icons and it stills pretty much the same
[20:36] <reisio> I'm not sure upstream even has a version 3.14
[20:36] <Yank> I ended up reinstalling unity and it stills not work
[20:36] <Garvey> Reiso: Am I on glue?
[20:36] <Yank> Anyone who can help me out ?
[20:36] <reisio> Garvey: quite possibly
[20:37] <Garvey> Reiso: my main issue is that the version I have won't let me select a Computer Opponent
[20:37] <Garvey> Reiso: Do I need more packages?
[20:37] <Garvey> Reiso: cuz it was working last week :/
[20:38] <reisio> Garvey: r-e-i-TAB
[20:38] <reisio> what happens when you try to have it select a computer opponent?
[20:38] <Garvey> reisio: (thanks) It only has Human Opponent as a possible selection on that tab
[20:39] <Garvey> reisio: What do you mean CTCP version?
[20:39] <reisio> Garvey: /ctcp reisio version
[20:40] <Garvey> reisio: I'm sorry, I don't understane
[20:40] <reisio> send it as a msg
[20:40] <Glorfindel> Yank: I have no idea. Maybe google "unuty stops working when unity tweak is installed" or something. Note to !google-ers: I know :P
[20:40] <sebastianlutter> how to start VVM with BoxHeadless at startup on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[20:40] <Garvey> reisio: What is ctcp? Computer Opponent program?
[20:41] <Yank> Glorfindel: Thanks anyway ;)
[20:41] <reisio> Garvey: send '/ctcp reisio version' as an IRC msg
[20:41] <Garvey> SURE
[20:41] <reisio> sebastianlutter: rc.local
[20:42] <Glorfindel> Garvey: /version works too
[20:42] <Garvey> Glorfindel: thanks :P
[20:42] <Kamuela> How would I go about troubleshooting a long standing problem with my laptop and its display graphics on Ubuntu?
[20:43] <reisio> Kamuela: you'd be more specific
[20:44] <Kamuela> reisio: one second and i'll screenshot it
[20:44] <Kamuela> reisio: actually not a screenshot because screenshots don't have issues, a picture of my screen
[20:45] <Mimilus> is there someone wich plays dofus on ubuntu 12.04 64 bits, I ve no sound with dofus, i've installed the game by the software center
[20:47] <apeoid> if I do a ./configure and find issues and fix them before make, I can do that multiple times right?
[20:47] <Kamuela> My screen often looks like this until I have changed the resolution sometimes and it randomly fixes itself to a normal color mode that still has strange artifacts on the edges of the screen: http://i.imgur.com/Ej3835V.jpg Is this any kind of common problem?
[20:48] <reisio> apeoid: easily tested
[20:48] <Garvey> reisio: Anything for me? I can't even select to play as black.
[20:48] <Kamuela> The colors are inverted and the DPI seems very low
[20:49] <Garvey> reisio: Thanks anyway
[20:58] <adamcunnington> does rc.local run on startup?
[21:01] <Trudko> guys I am screwed my bootloader . What I did was I created live usb with gparted and removed ubuntu completely , so only windows was left. problem was grub was still there so I removed it using Easybc but now I cant boot the windows I tried to use boot repair it says that it is fixed but it isnt. I can't boot windows
[21:02] <ObrienDave> you need to fix the MBR
[21:03] <Trudko> how ? btw I still can load grub at least some command line grub if that make sense
[21:03] <kal> hello everyone, could you help to configure my exchange account on evolution. The problem is that I use the exchange server from outlook.com.
[21:04] <reisio> kal: how is that the problem?
[21:04] <theadmin> Trudko: Boot a Windows DVD and tell it to fix the MBR (bootrec /fixmbr)
[21:04] <adamcunnington> everytime i run sudo gedit blah, i get "(gedit:5773): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files"
[21:05] <kal> the problem is the exchange server from outlook, isnt supported
[21:05] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Don't run graphical apps with sudo, use "gksudo" instead
[21:05] <adamcunnington> theadmin: do i need to install that?
[21:05] <kal> And I try to solve this
[21:05] <theadmin> adamcunnington: I'm not sure, I think not
[21:05] <Trudko> theadmin: I dont have dvd drive
[21:05] <adamcunnington> theadmin: i don't think it's been included since 13.04...
[21:06] <theadmin> adamcunnington: You can use "pkexec" instead
[21:06] <adamcunnington> theadmin: looks like i need to apt-get install gksu
[21:06] <theadmin> adamcunnington: That works via polkit, not sudo, but in general behaviour should be the same
[21:08] <adamcunnington> theadmin: thanks, i've just installed gksu though, cheers for your help
[21:08] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a hacker group?
[21:08] <Glorfindel> Trudko: you can us a ubuntu live boot usb drive to get to ubuntu and then follow these instructions to set grub to work with windows and any other OS you have: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:08] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a hacker group?
[21:08] <Glorfindel> do the 2nd option
[21:09] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a hacker group?
[21:09] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a hacker group?
[21:09] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a hacker group?
[21:09] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a hacker group?
[21:09] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a hacker group?
[21:09] <reisio> k0b4lt: try irc.efnet.org
[21:09] <reisio> !ops k0b4lt spam
[21:09] <Glorfindel> or even get the iso and put that on a usb device
[21:09] <reisio> ubottu: not much chance of that
[21:09] <reisio> idiot
[21:09] <Glorfindel> lol
[21:11] <ObrienDave> arguing with a bot? lol
[21:11] <_Trullo> haha
[21:13] <adamcunnington> theadmin: i'm confused, gksudo /etc/rc.local brings up a passowrd prompt and then it doesn't open the file, what am i doing wrong?
[21:13] <kal> hello everyone, could you help to configure my exchange account on evolution. The problem is that I use the exchange server from outlook.com.
[21:13] <theadmin> adamcunnington: gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[21:13] <kal> thanks
[21:14] <adamcunnington> theadmin: ah makes more sense :P thanks
[21:14] <reisio> kal: what's stopping you?
[21:14] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a begginer hacker group????
[21:14] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a begginer hacker group????
[21:14] <reisio> k0b4lt: try #defocus
[21:14] <adamcunnington> k0b4lt: moron.
[21:14] <bekks> k0b4lt: Still on the wrong network.
[21:14] <mtchllbrrn_> Chill, he's probably wrong
[21:14] <mtchllbrrn_> er, whoa.  young*
[21:14] <k0b4lt> f*c*k you <adamcunnington>
[21:14] <Kamuela> lol
[21:14] <LoRez> k0b4lt: stop spamming.
[21:15] <apeoid> how do I check on the version of an item I want to apt-get?
[21:15] <apeoid> I want to apt-get install libreadline-dev ... is there a command to check what version it is?
[21:15] <theadmin> apeoid: apt-cache show libreadline-dev
[21:16] <theadmin> apeoid: Will print a bunch of information, including the version
[21:16] <apeoid> theadmin, thank you
[21:17] <adamcunnington> theadmin: ah i normally use apt-cache policy what's the diff?
[21:17] <theadmin> adamcunnington: Different kind of outputs, but both work for version
[21:18] <adamcunnington> theadmin: cool thanks
[21:18] <adamcunnington> theadmin: and apt-cache search searches repositories right?
[21:18] <DalekSec> adamcunnington: policy is more useful for version, but there is madison too.  (apt-cache madison irssi)
[21:18] <DalekSec> adamcunnington: Right.
[21:19] <adamcunnington> DalekSec: how did you know i am using irssi?
[21:19] <poimen> is an encrypted home partition resizeable using Gparted?
[21:19] <Scriptonaut> guys, I can't seem to install ruby 1.9.2
[21:19] <Scriptonaut> only 1.9.2
[21:19] <DalekSec> adamcunnington: I didn't, it's just what I'm using thus something on the mind when looking to name a random package (that's actually in stock repos.)
[21:19] <Scriptonaut> 1.9.1*
[21:19] <owenthewizard> Hello, how would I go about setting up the drivers for a BCM4322 wifi chip on Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS?
[21:20] <Scriptonaut> how does one get 1.9.2?
[21:20] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a begginer hacker group????
[21:20] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a begginer hacker group????
[21:20] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a begginer hacker group????
[21:20] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a begginer hacker group????
[21:20] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a begginer hacker group????
[21:20] <k0b4lt> anyone there want's to create a begginer hacker group????
[21:20] <unopaste> k0b4lt you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:20] <DalekSec> !b43 | b43-fwcutter, basically Scriptonaut
[21:20] <Scriptonaut> DalekSec, wtf?
[21:20] <Scriptonaut> that's for a network card
[21:21] <Scriptonaut> that stuff was a nightmare
[21:21] <Scriptonaut> when I had to configure my network card from hand on debian
[21:21] <Scriptonaut> what do those have to do with ruby?
[21:21] <owenthewizard> Yeah, I tried that, but got stuck on installing bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:24] <Scriptonaut> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/pratikmsinha_ruby_1.9.2/lucid/main/base/ruby1.9.2
[21:24] <Scriptonaut> I have 12.04
[21:24] <Scriptonaut> how exactly do I get this thing
[21:25] <DalekSec> Scriptonaut: Heh, sorry.  I misread your nick with what someone else said.  Generally speaking, 1.9.x tends to be deprecated, and 2.0 is the only option.  Also when looking at ruby1.9.1, it's version 1.9.3
[21:25] <DalekSec> !info ruby1.9.1
[21:25] <Scriptonaut> ok I'll get 2.0 then
[21:25] <Scriptonaut> hopefully my app still works
[21:26] <owenthewizard> help pls anyone? package not found bcmwl-kernal-source
[21:26] <theadmin> owenthewizard: That's because "kernel", not "kernal"
[21:27] <Scriptonaut> sudo apt-get install ruby2.0
[21:27] <Scriptonaut> whoops sorry
[21:27] <owenthewizard> ok, i will try, if i misspelled it im going to slap myself
[21:32] <owenthewizard> thank you, I'm a tard
[21:32] <Mace268_> Hello, I am installing a new SSD into my system and want to do a fresh install of 14.04. Is there a guide somewhere that will inform me on what files/dirs to backup in order to preserve my settings?
[21:32] <reisio> Mace268_: yeah...
[21:32] <mjayk> Mace268_: by settings are you refering to user specific settings
[21:32] <reisio> I can never remember the factoid name, 'cause they changed it I think
[21:33] <Mace268_> yes. software sources, crontab, apache, stuff like that.
[21:34] <Mace268_> so i guess that would be user and system settings.
[21:35] <reisio> Mace268_: I would just rsync the data over to the new drive, myself
[21:35] <reisio> Mace268_: then re-install GRUB
[21:36] <Mace268_> I do have a full duplicity backup as well, i guess I could just selectively restore what I need as I need it?
[21:36] <reisio> why restore when you can just copy it over...
[21:37] <mjayk> Mace268_: if you are installing to a new ssd cant you just have two installs at once then swap the bits over as and when you need them
[21:37] <Mace268_> reisio, for a LTS install I'd rather have a fresh install. I've been upgrading since 13.04
[21:37] <reisio> Mace268_: why is that?
[21:38] <Mace268_> Just from recommendations that I've seen in the past.
[21:38]  * reisio shrugs
[21:40] <Mace268_> Thanks reisio and mjayk, I'll take everything into consideration. Have a good one :)
[21:41] <Emperor_Earth> does "nano" and "cat" encode files differently? following this tut: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-automatic-deployment-with-git-with-a-vps  and "sudo cat > post-receive" and "cat > post-receive" doesn't work, so i "sudo nano post-receive" instead
[21:43] <kal> hello everyone, could you help to configure my exchange account on evolution. The problem is that I use the exchange server from outlook.com
[21:48] <fridaynext> Anyone here switch from using OSX as their main OS to Ubuntu?  (recently)
[21:50] <coventry> How can I boot an ubuntu 12.04 machine with FDE into recovery mode?  Holding down shift before and after the passphrase challenge is just leading to a blank screen.
[21:50] <ikonia> coventry: FDE ?
[21:50] <ikonia> ahhh encryption
[21:50] <coventry> full-disk enycrption
[21:51] <ikonia> coventry: is it even possible ?
[21:51] <ikonia> isn't the decrypt after the initial boot
[21:51] <ikonia> coventry: can you get the grub menu up at all ?
[21:52] <coventry> No, the grub menu doesn't appear either, when I hold down shift.  I believe that would suffice to get me in, though.
[21:52] <ikonia> not sure how it would work to be honest
[21:52] <ikonia> just trying to think it through in my head, never put any thought into it before
[21:53] <sketchhh> What type of text files are text files in Ubuntu?
[21:53] <sketchhh> is it .txt?
[21:53] <Jeffrey_f> kal: I have the info, but hold on
[21:53] <ikonia> sketchhh: the extension means nothing
[21:53] <sketchhh> To use with a wildcard in the command line?
[21:53] <ikonia> sketchhh: any file can be a text file
[21:53] <sketchhh> Ohh, okay, so how would I identify it in the command line?
[21:53] <ikonia> sketchhh: what are you trying to do ?
[21:53] <sketchhh> Like ~/Desktop/*jpg
[21:53] <ikonia> sketchhh: what are you actually trying to do
[21:53] <sketchhh> That's an image3.
[21:54] <sketchhh> Move all text files from my desktop to another folder in the command line.
[21:54] <ikonia> sketchhh: what extension did you create them with ?
[21:54] <sketchhh> not sure, it says type: plaintext document (text/plain)
[21:54] <sketchhh> used gedit
[21:55] <ikonia> ls -la ~/Desktop
[21:55] <ikonia> take a look
[21:55] <ikonia> or just use the gui
[21:55] <sketchhh> oh nice
[21:56] <sketchhh> for some reason still not seeing an indication as to what type of file extension it would be
[21:56] <sketchhh> even with the long-listing
[21:56] <ikonia> sketchhh: what is the name of the file
[21:56] <ikonia> exactly as you see it in ls -la
[21:56] <sketchhh> like one says
[21:56] <sketchhh> "Rent"
[21:56] <sketchhh> another says "fooly cooly"
[21:56] <eto> where can one read about state of systemd as default ubuntu init, or some kind of roadmap?
[21:57] <ikonia> su -
[21:57] <ikonia> r%f24C41
[21:57] <ikonia> then thats what the file name is
[21:57] <ikonia> the file name is "Rent"
[21:57] <ikonia> no extension
[22:00] <sketchhh> lik ein windows
[22:00] <sketchhh> like in windows*
[22:00] <sketchhh> a text file is document.txt
[22:00] <dman777_alter> is cassandra db not available in apt-get?
[22:00] <sketchhh> What would it be in Ubuntu?
[22:00] <bekks> sketchhh: Even in Windows file extension mean nothing.
[22:01] <ikonia> sketchhh: it doesn't work like that
[22:01] <ikonia> sketchhh: there is no file extension
[22:01] <bekks> sketchhh: You can name whatever file you want "Document.txt".
[22:01] <sketchhh> ohh okay so how could i use a wildcard
[22:01] <sketchhh> for text files in the command line
[22:01] <ikonia> sketchhh: you can't
[22:01] <sketchhh> oh wow
[22:01] <sketchhh> that's interesting
[22:01] <ikonia> sketchhh: because you've not made an extension that is consistent when creating them
[22:02] <Bashing-om> dman777_alter: What returns from terminal command -> apt-cache search cassandra <- ?
[22:02] <dman777_alter> Bashing-om: nada
[22:02] <trism> eto: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1403-systemd-transition
[22:02] <Bashing-om> dman777_alter: Then, nope, not available in the repository. Google here we come !
[22:03] <dman777_alter> yep
[22:03] <Bashing-om> dman777_alter: What release ( it do matter ) are you running to find the correct version of cassandra.
[22:11] <barnex> hello guys
[22:12] <barnex> and gals :-)
[22:12] <barnex> I took the advice to update my eol distro and run into some problems using minimal installer
[22:12] <barnex> there seems to be no apt-get and I have no idea how to get gdisk on.
[22:13] <barnex> no dpkg either...
[22:18] <studmuf> Can someone point me in the direction of a tutorial that will show me how to set up a web server that I can link with my godaddy domain name on unbuntu 14.04?
[22:18] <studmuf> server
[22:18] <barnex> what kind of thing would you like to serve?
[22:18] <barnex> studmuf: ?
[22:19] <barnex> just files or some kind of application?
[22:20] <studmuf> barnex: a web page that hosts a web app and an ftp file server
[22:20] <barnex> well, what kind of web app?
[22:20] <barnex> what kind of tutorial do you need? Setting the app server, setting ftp server, or pointing domain name to your server?
[22:21] <studmuf> the web app takes a data in the form of a web form to query a database that plots the data using javscript
[22:21] <studmuf> brainproxy: yes to all of the above
[22:22] <brainproxy> ?
[22:22] <barnex> yeah, but in which technology? ruby on rails servers and php servers have different ways to install studmuf
[22:22] <studmuf> I know php but not ruby
[22:22] <studmuf> on rails
[22:22] <barnex> for the domain name pointing you'd need to look through godady documentation.
[22:22] <studmuf> would like to learn it though
[22:22] <studmuf> brainproxy: ok
[22:22] <studmuf> sorry barnex
[22:23] <barnex> and know your ip address, forward some points on your router if necessary
[22:23] <barnex> if you want to host php application, look for apache + php tutorial, should be easy, since it's very common
[22:23] <studmuf> ok
[22:23] <barnex> probably installing some meta package for LAMP server (linux + apache + mysql)
[22:23] <barnex> will do the trick
[22:23] <brainproxy> studmuf: linode (the company) has a pretty nice collection of linux tutorial for setting up various kinds of servers, as does Digital Ocean
[22:24] <studmuf> I was thinking abot installing the LAMP server
[22:24] <studmuf> brainproxy: thanks
[22:24] <barnex> studmuf: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu here's some tutorial, I hope it works
[22:24] <brainproxy> studmuf: are you going to be running the server locally, or will you be using a hosting service?
[22:24] <studmuf> I looked at a the start of a few tuts on setting up a LAMP server and it seems very straight forward
[22:25] <studmuf> just want to make sure it fits all my needs
[22:25] <barnex> for pointing the domain name you basically need to create an A record with your computer's public ip
[22:25] <studmuf> locally at first
[22:25] <brainproxy> studmuf: you could probably use a prebuilt lamp stack in the form of a docker image
[22:25] <studmuf> barnex: done
[22:25] <studmuf> I already create the A record pointing at my public domain
[22:25] <barnex> well, if all you want is php app with some databese LAMP would be great
[22:25] <studmuf> brainproxy: what's a docker image?
[22:26] <brainproxy> studmuf: https://www.docker.com/
[22:26] <barnex> it's a prebuilt operating system image with working confugirated server stack I assume
[22:26] <brainproxy> it's "containerized" linux
[22:26] <brainproxy> you can have a dumb linux box which isn't configured for anything in particular but has docker installed
[22:26] <studmuf> barnex: I'm assuming DigitalOcean charges to use their services.
[22:26] <brainproxy> and then you can run docker images on it
[22:27] <brainproxy> very nice, saves a lot of repeat effort
[22:27] <studmuf> brainproxy: hmmmm
[22:27] <barnex> uhhm, what's digitalOcean?
[22:27] <studmuf> so it's a custom vm
[22:27] <studmuf> hahah Digital Ocean
[22:27] <brainproxy> studmuf: boot2docker is a simple way to get started with it
[22:27]  * studmuf can't not type to save his life
[22:27] <studmuf> haha
[22:28] <studmuf> did it again
[22:28] <studmuf> brainproxy: ok
[22:28] <studmuf> i'll check it out.
[22:28] <studmuf> brainproxy: barnex: thanks for the feedback now it's time to do a little more in depth research on the matter
[22:28] <brainproxy> anyway, don't mean to be a pundit, but if you're going to get into dev work on linux servers, will probably save you a lot of time in the long run
[22:29] <brainproxy> studmuf: sure thing; docker works nicely in comination w/ vagrant in my opinion, but not everyone likes vagrant or wants to go that route, but something to consider
[22:29] <barnex> uhm, I'm having trouble with the 'install the
[22:29] <barnex> GRUB boot loader on a hard disk' step in minimal installer
[22:29] <brainproxy> automation and repeatability is the key to devops linux happiness :)
[22:29] <barnex> where can I get something more out of it than 'failed to install'?
[22:32] <barnex> Jul  8 22:29:14 main-menu[253]: (process:5942): ERROR: unsupported sector size 4096 on /dev/sda.
[22:32] <barnex> this seems to be the problem.
[22:33] <stuardo> Hi!
[22:34] <barnex> Hi stuardo.
[22:34] <stuardo> I booted from the livedistro, but installed in an USB drive,
[22:34] <stuardo> I want to have ubuntu installed in the liveUSB, but everytime I boot, all my changes are gone
[22:35] <stuardo> anyone successfully installed Ubuntu in an USB?
[22:37] <OerHeks> !persistant | stuardo
[22:38] <sandman13> If I installed Ubuntu LTS with KDE and after some months new version of KDE is released, then will LTS have that version of KDE in the repo?
[22:38] <rsw> using the framebuffer (with fbi, links2 -g, as examples) requires sudo on Ubuntu 12.04.  Is it possible to use graphical framebuffer without invoking superuser priviledges?
[22:39] <kaibutsu> is there a way to fix tearing on 14.04? running an ivy bridge cpu + a geforce 645m here and i get tearing on both graphical chips :/
[22:39] <kaibutsu> it's driving me insane :/... it happens on Mint as well
[22:41] <stuardo> OerHeks, that's what I dud, I used startup disk creator, set the space for 4G, and booted
[22:41] <stuardo> OerHeks, but all my changes are lost after I reboot
[22:42] <Bashing-om> sandman13: As a general rule, no, a version is frozen at the release level to preclude introducing any new bugs or problems. That newer version of KDE would be available in the next release.
[22:43] <OerHeks> stuardo, put a 2nd usb drive in, and start the installer, choose the right usb device to install on ..
[22:44] <notdaniel> kaibutsu same problem, also seeing it on fedora. no idea how to fix
[22:48] <g0th> hi
[22:48] <kaibutsu> notdaniel, since it's across so many different distros it must be a fundamental thing right? like drivers, etc... i guess it's going to be fixed eventually :/
[22:48] <g0th> Does http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/UX32LN/specifications/ work well with ubuntu or do you recommend against it?
[22:49] <g0th> is there a recommendation for ultrabooks/netbooks for ubuntu?
[22:50] <ObrienDave> i would think those specs would be sufficent for Ubuntu
[22:50] <momo_> hello
[22:50] <g0th> ObrienDave: what about the graphics drivers?
[22:51] <g0th> ObrienDave: do the latest nvidia binary driver work?
[22:51] <g0th> seems yes
[22:51] <g0th> I think I'll buy it
[22:57] <stangeland> Hi, i am trying to make a vpn connection from linux box, but i get conenction failed because service failed to start. Anybody knows how i can solve this?
[23:09] <stangeland> Hi, i am trying to make a vpn connection from linux box, but i get conenction failed because service failed to start. Anybody knows how i can solve this?
[23:27] <LucaS05> hi. when i try to access localhost/ i get a forbidden error
[23:27] <LucaS05> what can be the problem?
[23:28] <Fall> LucaS05: trying to load a webpage?
[23:29] <LucaS05> yes, i go to localhost in firefox
[23:29] <Luke-Jr> I am an upstream maintainer, and have released 5 bugfix-ONLY releases to the version of my software packaged in Ubuntu 14.04; is there any interest in getting 14.04 updated with these fixes?
[23:32] <Fall> LucaS05: do you have Apache or some webserver installed, and it's running, and listening on port 80?
[23:32] <k1l> Luke-Jr: talk to the maintainer of that package
[23:33] <Luke-Jr> k1l: it's a Debian import, and the Debian maintainer doesn't appear to be involved in Ubuntu
[23:33] <LucaS05> yes, i've apache2
[23:33] <LucaS05> i've a 403 so it's running
[23:34] <Fall> is this a fresh install, or have you made customisations
[23:35] <k1l> Luke-Jr: hmm, i would see if you can grab the maintainer and talk to them if they think they need the new releases or patches for that.  maybe ask in #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-motu
[23:37] <LucaS05> i've made a customization, adding a folder as a root
[23:37] <Luke-Jr> k1l: I don't know how to decide which of those to ask in
[23:37] <LucaS05> so localhost points to that
[23:38] <Odoxa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If36R0cNum4
[23:38] <k1l> Luke-Jr: if its in universe repo ask in motu. else in -packaging (imho)
[23:39] <nerium> Anyone knows how to configure apache2 to filter filés?
[23:39] <nerium> I've tried using this: https://gist.github.com/oleander/829ffa83342cea8d3bc4, but it doesn't work
[23:40] <Luke-Jr> k1l: k, thanks
[23:40] <raspberrypifan> everytime i plug in my usb modem my system hangs, what can i do?
[23:41] <k1l> raspberrypifan: stop plug in your usb modem ;p .... no. can you get the syslog/dmesg from that hang?
[23:41] <Beldar> raspberrypifan, Has it ever worked?
[23:41] <raspberrypifan> nop
[23:41] <k1l> raspberrypifan: is the usb modem ok? does it work on other machines?
[23:41] <raspberrypifan> it works on the host machine but not in the vm machine
[23:42] <Fall> LucaS05: you'd need to specify a <Directory> directive allowing Apache read access to the new root
[23:42] <raspberrypifan> k1l:  how do i get the syslog/dmesg?
[23:42] <k1l> so its a vm. can you draw the whole picture?
[23:42] <Beldar> raspberrypifan, Lots on amazon less then $10 US that plug and play identified for linux and ubuntu
[23:42] <LucaS05> where is located the file?
[23:42] <Tin_man> i'm going to try this channel one more time.. I'm a tried and true a ubuntu 14.04, dumped windows, but some questions go back to the whole story. Linux, and the whole history of the OS... if i'm afraid to ask a question, about Mint, or ???? then where are you all getting?
[23:43] <raspberrypifan> this one is specifically for voip
[23:43] <raspberrypifan> it works on freeswitch and freeswitch runs on ubuntu
[23:43] <k1l> Tin_man: you know the guidelines so ask the mint questions in the mint support. thanks
[23:43] <raspberrypifan> so..
[23:43] <Fall> LucaS05: locate apache2.conf
[23:43] <Fall> LucaS05: usually in /etc/apache2
[23:44] <raspberrypifan> one thing i do see is hen i force shutdown it shows modemmanager as shutting down on the closing screen
[23:44] <raspberrypifan> but it never seesm to start
[23:44] <rww> Tin_man: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support questions. There is ##linux for general Linux questions, #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support questions, and Mint has their own channel for Mint support. Which does your question fit in?
[23:44] <Tin_man> special clubs always fail.. look at Germany
[23:44] <OerHeks> Tin_man, ranting please in the mint channel, thanks.
[23:45] <Beldar> Tin_man, That was your comment last time I saw you try this, stuck in a loop?
[23:45] <Tin_man> ok why don't ubuntu 14.04 give me a update on my system.. except the upgrade?
[23:45] <raspberrypifan> k1l: can i pasebin the dmesg?
[23:45] <Tin_man> does it need  up graded?
[23:46] <rww> Tin_man: run lsb_release -a in a terminal, copy the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, and link the created paste here, please
[23:46] <Tin_man> and if not, it say secuity, and such
[23:46] <Tin_man> you know i'm not stuck on Mint..
[23:47] <Tin_man> trust me
[23:47] <rww> Tin_man: Good, then run the command I just asked you to run, thanks.
[23:47] <Tin_man> wife has mint
[23:47] <Tin_man> not me
[23:47] <Tin_man> ok
[23:48] <LucaS05> how can i restart apache2?
[23:48] <rww> LucaS05: sudo service apache2 restart
[23:48] <Tin_man> bunch of mean folks as far as i'm concerned.. I always figured a question was the best way to learn, not trying to figure out Mint. .I love ubuntu 14.04
[23:49] <rww> Tin_man: Please run the command I asked so that we can best provide you support, thanks.
[23:49] <Tin_man> got it rww
[23:49] <Tin_man> later
[23:49] <histo> Tin_man: who's being mean?
[23:49] <histo> whatever
[23:50] <raspberrypifan> can anyone help with the modem issue
[23:50]  * Fall shrugs
[23:50] <histo> raspberrypifan: Are you running live or on a guest?
[23:51] <raspberrypifan> ive installed on a guest os
[23:51] <raspberrypifan> gues vm
[23:51] <LucaS05> i still got a 403
[23:51] <histo> raspberrypifan: Okay, what is the issue?
[23:51] <histo> LucaS05: 403 for what?
[23:51] <raspberrypifan> well when i plug it in ubuntu freezes.
[23:51] <histo> raspberrypifan: does the host freeze?
[23:51] <LucaS05> when i try to access to localhost in firefox
[23:52] <histo> LucaS05: sudo service apache2 status
[23:52] <raspberrypifan> the vm freezes but not the host
[23:52] <barnex> when I boot my ubuntu in efi mode, all I get is uefi shell
[23:52] <histo> raspberrypifan: how are you telling the vm to use the usb?
[23:52] <LucaS05> i got apach2 is running
[23:52] <k1l> raspberrypifan: if you need to hard restart see in /var/log/ and then the dmesg and syslog with the numbers afterwards. each reboot the logs get cycled and the number gets increased
[23:52] <histo> LucaS05: netstat -tan      and make sure it's listening.
[23:52] <raspberrypifan> i am not, im just plugging it in. when i plug it into the os x host it works fine nad when i plug it in to my windows vm it also works
[23:53] <barnex> do I need to install some efi loader and if so how? I already tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:53] <histo> raspberrypifan: What virtualization software are you using?
[23:53] <barnex> And boot-repair can't detect my efi partition
[23:53] <barnex> although it's there
[23:53] <raspberrypifan> vmwarae fusion
[23:53] <histo> barnex: has this ever worked?
[23:53] <barnex> histo: no
[23:53] <barnex> not for me
[23:53] <histo> barnex: So you are trying to install?
[23:54] <LucaS05> how can i see that it's listening?
[23:54] <barnex> I'm trying to install, yes
[23:54] <barnex> I did "Converting Ubuntu into EFI mode
[23:54] <histo> raspberrypifan: try booting ubuntu iso on bare metal and see if it blows up there. Most likely a problem with vmware
[23:54] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: in the Ubuntu guest, in a terminal, first do "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" then plug the device in... hopefully you'll catch some kernel messages telling us what is happening before it freezes
[23:54] <barnex> pert of the tutorial I linked
[23:54] <barnex> but it assumes that boot-repair would detect my efi partition
[23:54] <barnex> and it doesn't
[23:54] <barnex> for some reason
[23:54] <histo> barnex: why are you converting it?
[23:54] <LucaS05> i see this: 0.0.0.0:80
[23:54] <raspberrypifan> i dont have the device wiht me right now, and i dont have internet at home. Would just pusting the dmesg do any good. the /var/log has a bunch of files
[23:55] <barnex> well, uhm, no reason, it's a fresh system and I heard efi boots faster a while ago
[23:56] <HelloWorld3211> Is the first point release (14.04.1)  live?
[23:56] <raspberrypifan> TJ-: well it freezes amost automatically.
[23:56] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: We'd expect the kernel to reports something when it freezes, which you should be able to capture at least with a screenshot from the host, if not to clipboard.
[23:57] <raspberrypifan> hmm very well
[23:57] <raspberrypifan> hopefully
[23:57] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: which version of OS X is the host running?
[23:57] <raspberrypifan> mavericks
[23:58] <histo> barnex: Do you have a UEFI motherboard?
[23:58] <LucaS05> maybe there's another apache2 conf file?
[23:58] <barnex> histo: yes.
[23:58] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: And, from what you said, other guest operating systems in fusion could see/use the same device correctly?
[23:58] <barnex> histo: I managed to boot some live distros in uefi mode
[23:58] <raspberrypifan> yup
[23:58] <histo> barnex: So what part of that are you stuck on?
[23:59] <Chaser> HelloWorld3211: Ubuntu 14.04.1 is due for release on 24th July (see !ltsupgrade)
[23:59] <TJ-> raspberrypifan: OK, so there's not much point in looking for OS-X/Fusion specific causes... that kern.log when the device is connected is going to be the most helpful. Can you tell us what the make/model of the device is?
[23:59] <barnex> histo: can't make boot-repair to recognize my efi partition as efi partition I guess.
[23:59] <raspberrypifan> yes huawei e160
[23:59] <histo> barnex: did you create one?
[23:59] <barnex> yes
[23:59] <LucaS05> what i have is that the apache2.conf file doesn't have the directory that gives me the 403. But i see the directory in the ErrorLog File, so maybe there's another configuration file!
[23:59] <barnex> but it's empty
[23:59] <histo> barnex: pastebin lsblk