[00:42] <mapps> can anyone recommend a tutorial for setting up openswan/strongswan
[03:19] <SamwiseGamgee> Does my PC have information about my internal optical drive, like the make and model number?
[03:19] <SamwiseGamgee> If so, how do I access that information?
[03:20] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee try this command: lshw
[03:20] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, thanks
[03:23] <SamwiseGamgee> how do I become a superuser in the command console?
[03:23] <cfhowlett> !superuser|SamwiseGamgee
[03:23] <cfhowlett> !root|SamwiseGamgee
[03:24] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, bot bitch
[03:25] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee insults and profanity will quickly get you added to /ignore        and are unwelcome in this channel
[03:26] <SamwiseGamgee> please excuse my offensive language, and sorry if I offended anyone
[03:27] <SamwiseGamgee> sorry ubottu
[10:16] <simpleuser> Hi there. I just installed Xubuntu 14.04.
[10:17] <simpleuser> Even if I disabled Light Locker, I have to unlock my session after screensaver.
[10:17] <simpleuser> Any idea?
[10:18] <simpleuser> Other problem: When I close my eeepc laptop, it goes into suspend mode, even if I don’t ask to, in the power settings.
[10:18] <simpleuser> Better: When I come back, I just have a blank screen. Impossible to come back in my session.
[10:19] <simpleuser> I have to restart Xorg…
[10:23] <simpleuser> I’m not the only one… http://askubuntu.com/questions/462361/xubuntu-blank-screen-after-wakeup
[10:25] <mdp_> Hi, scite in xubuntu 14.04 does not use the GTK controls, it has display issues (such as bad refresh. Does anyone know how to fix it?
[10:26] <mdp_> Hi thought it would be fixed within a few updates, but still nothing...
[10:26] <simpleuser> Actually even if I disable light-locker it reenables automatically.
[10:59] <gain> hi guys, indicators of battery and volume disappear
[10:59] <gain> any hint?
[12:02] <simpleuser> (Solved my blank screen problem by removing light locker and installing xscreensaver instead)
[16:41] <buddy> Hi. Can someone explain me. When i close my laptop lid and then reopen it my screen brightness decreases and when i enter my login passwd screen turns to black and thats all. When i begin to type logon screen shows again with decreased brightness and so on. In my power settings value "Lock screen" is set on the On Battery and On AC tabs. But seems it doesnt work correctly. Has anyone encountered such?
[16:43] <buddy> But if i do Lock screen from Action buttons on my panel it works fine
[16:43] <buddy> 14.04
[17:04] <m1chael> i am having some strange issues with xubuntu (closing my laptop lid renders the computer useless till rebooting due to black screen) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[17:05] <m1chael> should i switch to a different distro/version?
[17:10] <buddy> ok but why it goes to suspend instead of lock screen? in my power settings option Lock screen is set, not suspend
[18:11] <Xubuntu_User> my hdmi cable fell out I put it back in now I can not get CTRL+ALT+F7
[18:12] <Xubuntu_User> can I use vnc on the --session-child 12 19
[18:12] <Xubuntu_User> to get it back
[18:12] <holstein> Xubuntu_User: i would just do the original IT fix.. turn it off and back on again..
[18:12] <Xubuntu_User> please no
[18:12] <holstein> HDMI can be tricky..
[18:12] <Xubuntu_User> I have important unsaved filews
[18:12] <Xubuntu_User> files
[18:12] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: so ssh in from another machine and save them
[18:12] <Hedgework> :P
[18:13] <holstein> Xubuntu_User: you need to back those up regardless..
[18:13] <Xubuntu_User> when hdmi falls out in MS windows you can plug it back in without issue
[18:13] <Xubuntu_User> why is it such a big deal in linux
[18:13]  * Hedgework contemplates yanking her HDMI cable to see what happens
[18:13] <Xubuntu_User> linux should be better
[18:14] <Hedgework> Oh, wait...home is HDMI...these are VGA and DP
[18:14] <Hedgework> silly work computer
[18:14] <Xubuntu_User> wait a sec.... girls use linux?
[18:14] <holstein> Xubuntu_User: let the creators of the hardware know what you expect in linux.. its up to them to provide support, as they have in windows.. ultimately
[18:14] <Xubuntu_User> what planet are you from
[18:14] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: I'm surprised you are having such an issue...I plug and unplug monitors on my laptop all the time (either directly or by docking/undocking it) without issue.
[18:15] <Xubuntu_User> I doubt its nvidia fault that lightdm wont restore a session
[18:15]  * Hedgework chuckles
[18:15] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: why are you back at lightdm?  your existing session shouldn't have ended...I bet Xorg is still running just fine with your existing session
[18:15] <holstein> Xubuntu_User: its not an issus of "fault".. its just not supporting linux officially.. but, if you are runing live, and not trying the proprietary driver, please do.. that can usually address most issues
[18:16] <Xubuntu_User> so how do I restore that session to CTRL+ALT+F7?
[18:16] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: And yes.  I'm a girl.  I'm also a hacker and a martial artist and a little crazy.  It happens ;)
[18:16] <Xubuntu_User> what kind of hacker?
[18:16] <holstein> Xubuntu_User: you may not be able to.. i would backup the files and reboot. or install and try the proprietary driver.. or plug a monitor in
[18:16] <Xubuntu_User> full on pen tester or skiddie wannabe
[18:16] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: I work for an information security research center, and have been an open source dev since I was 12 or so.
[18:17] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: Actually, when I said "hacker" I was thinking the Jargon File definition.
[18:17] <Xubuntu_User> if I plug in a VGA it might work?
[18:17] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: I'm a security nerd, but that just overlaps a little with my hackerdom :P
[18:17] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: maybe
[18:17] <holstein> Xubuntu_User: it depends on what has crashed, and why
[18:17] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: I assume you can get to a console and log in?
[18:17] <Xubuntu_User> my nvidia GTX 660 does not have VGA it only has HDMI and the white one
[18:18] <holstein> if x has crashed, try starting it
[18:18] <Xubuntu_User> DVI
[18:18] <Xubuntu_User> nothing has crashed..........
[18:18] <Xubuntu_User> the hdmi cable came out
[18:18] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: Let's back up and get enough info from you to actually diagnose the issue, mmkay?
[18:18] <Xubuntu_User> I put it back in
[18:18] <Xubuntu_User> now I can not get CTRL+ALT+F7
[18:18] <holstein> Xubuntu_User: whatever you want to call it, friend.. you are here because soemthing has happened.. its not constructive to assume x didnt crash..
[18:18] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: Can you get to a console and log in?  (Usually Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[18:18] <Xubuntu_User> F1 does work
[18:19] <holstein> the question is. is *anything* on the screen. or has x crashed.. or what..
[18:19] <Xubuntu_User> I can log in as root just fine
[18:19] <holstein> then, i would login as normal use, and try startx
[18:19] <holstein> normal user*
[18:19] <Xubuntu_User> no
[18:19] <Xubuntu_User> that will kill my old session
[18:19] <Hedgework> holstein: slow down :P
[18:19] <holstein> good luck, folks..
[18:19] <Xubuntu_User> I want to RESTORE my old session
[18:19] <Hedgework> seriously...impatient boys around here... *theatrical eyeroll*
[18:19] <Xubuntu_User> not start a NEW one
[18:20] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: use xrandr to make sure that X is properly detecting that your monitor is back
[18:20] <holstein> Xubuntu_User: if it crashed, you will not be able to, friend
[18:20] <Hedgework> shoot, nvm, you need to do that within the X session
[18:20] <holstein> Xubuntu_User: dont assume it didnt.. thats all i suggest.. see if it crashed factually.. otherwise, good luck
[18:20] <Hedgework> just checked
[18:21] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: "ps -a | grep Xorg" will tell you whether or not Xorg is currently running
[18:22] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: So, is it?
[18:22] <Hedgework> (if you get no output, it's not)
[18:23] <Xubuntu_User> root      1820  2.7  2.5 378320 206420 tty7    Ss+  Jul07  27:59 /usr/bin/X -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
[18:23] <Xubuntu_User> root      2827  0.0  0.0 174620  3884 ?        Sl   Jul07   0:00 lightdm --session-child 12 19
[18:23] <Hedgework> (btw, that has to be -A rather than -a if you are not root atm)
[18:24] <Hedgework> none of those are the output of the command I gave you.
[18:24] <Hedgework> s/none/neither/
[18:25] <Xubuntu_User> 1230 tty7     00:02:10 Xorg
[18:25] <Hedgework> thank you
[18:26] <Hedgework> Okay, so now do "ps -A | grep xfce4" to see if xfce4 is still running
[18:26] <Xubuntu_User> oh sorry that was my laptop's Xorg its PID 1820 for my desktop
[18:26] <Hedgework> (btw, I'm assuming that you use Xfce4, which is the Xubuntu default)
[18:27] <Xubuntu_User> jefferyw  3332  0.0  0.0 247420  7860 ?        Sl   Jul07   0:00 xfce4-session
[18:28] <Hedgework> Okay, so assuming that jefferyw is your user name, you still have an active session running
[18:28] <Xubuntu_User> YES
[18:28] <Xubuntu_User> OMG
[18:29] <Xubuntu_User> I want to connect to that session
[18:29] <Xubuntu_User> that was my original question
[18:29] <Hedgework> Right, but first we had to make sure that it existed.
[18:29] <Xubuntu_User> (smash palm and face on keyboard)
[18:29] <Hedgework> This is called being methodical. :)
[18:29] <Hedgework> Operate on bad assumptions and you can waste HOURS
[18:29] <Hedgework> Next...
[18:30] <Hedgework> Are you using the nvidia proprietary thing, or the open source drivers?
[18:30] <Xubuntu_User> what does this matter in regards to a xfce4-session I am trying to restore
[18:31] <Hedgework> Because the proprietary tools override how X handles display recognition and assignment natively.
[18:31] <Hedgework> They make this whole thing about 100x more complicated.
[18:32] <Hedgework> The xfce4 session appears to still be running, but you can't attach a display to it...this is likely either because something broke, or because you use nvidia's proprietary thing and it decided that the display you plugged back in is a different, new display with no X screens assigned to it.
[18:33] <Xubuntu_User> I did apt-get install nvidia-331
[18:33] <Xubuntu_User> so w/e that one is
[18:33] <Xubuntu_User> being able to xfer a session to a new screen should be an option
[18:34] <Xubuntu_User> sounds like a flaw with session management
[18:34] <Xubuntu_User> so say I wanted to unplug hdmi and plug in dvi
[18:34] <Xubuntu_User> that session should switch over
[18:34] <Xubuntu_User> or vice versa
[18:34] <Hedgework> hold on and let me look at what that package is
[18:34] <Hedgework> Well, it does if you let X control your screens :)
[18:35] <Xubuntu_User> it does not do this out of the box?
[18:35] <Xubuntu_User> by default?
[18:35] <Hedgework> Yep, you're on NVIDIA's proprietary binary thingie
[18:36] <Hedgework> That's the source of the problem.
[18:36] <Hedgework> Xorg exposes those control to your window manager by default; I don't know how Xfce4 handles it in particular because I have not used xfce4 in years.
[18:37] <Hedgework> It's incredibly smooth and useful in i3wm with a sane configuration <3
[18:37] <Xubuntu_User> what do you use
[18:37] <Xubuntu_User> oh computer genious
[18:38] <Hedgework> i3wm
[18:38] <Hedgework> but it's not for everybody
[18:38] <Hedgework> It's tiling, not WIMP, which is really weird for some people
[18:38] <Hedgework> (WIMP == Window, Icon, Mouse/Pointer)
[18:39] <Xubuntu_User> so in plain english I am screwed
[18:39] <Hedgework> Maybe.
[18:39] <Hedgework> What applications are open with unsaved data that you desperately need?
[18:39] <Xubuntu_User> great job linux
[18:40] <Xubuntu_User> didn't torvold say F U to nvidia
[18:40] <Hedgework> umm, this is all NVIDIA's doing...they override the Xorg facilities that prevent this from happening
[18:40] <Hedgework> Yep. However, that didn't stop you from installing their shit anyway, even though it's not in the kernel :P
[18:40] <Xubuntu_User> because I paid good $ for my GTX 660
[18:40] <Xubuntu_User> I want the most FPS in my games
[18:41] <Hedgework> Ahh.  I went with a probably-overpowered-for-my-purposes ATI card in tyro (my desktop) and have been quite happy thus far.
[18:41] <koegs> same thing here with nvidia-drivers, turn off the displayport-monitor, turn it back on again, no display :(
[18:41] <Hedgework> One of my boyfriends is a gamer, and seems happy with roughly the same card.
[18:41] <Xubuntu_User> thats one lucky boyfriend
[18:42] <Xubuntu_User> gaming girls who use linux are rare
[18:42] <Xubuntu_User> so rare its sad
[18:42] <Xubuntu_User> and one that claims to be a hacker too
[18:42] <Hedgework> Meh, I'm not that much of a gamer any more...I play a few things casually, but that's it.  I code more now. :)
[18:42] <Xubuntu_User> I am learning python and twisted
[18:42] <Xubuntu_User> setting up honeypots
[18:42] <Xubuntu_User> for SSH and TELNET
[18:42] <Xubuntu_User> finding botnets almost everyday
[18:43] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: Senior Systems Analyst at the Center for Applied Cybersecurity Research **cringes at the name**... though if you ask me, I'll take more cred for ESR calling me a hacker than I will for my job title :P
[18:43] <Xubuntu_User> sooooooooooo many routers on the internet still use TELNET
[18:43] <Xubuntu_User> with U: root P: admin
[18:44] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: Anyway...my point was...there are plenty of gamer-friendly ATI cards that you can get good performance from without all this NVIDIA bullshit.
[18:44] <Xubuntu_User> can I start a session along side the old one
[18:44] <Xubuntu_User> and move apps over to the new one
[18:44] <Xubuntu_User> like Xchat
[18:44] <Xubuntu_User> and mousepad
[18:45] <Xubuntu_User> starting a new session should not kill off the old apps running
[18:45] <Xubuntu_User> I had a wireshark pcap running too
[18:45] <Xubuntu_User> thats what I am desperate for
[18:47] <Xubuntu_User> thank the lord firefox can restore sessions
[18:47] <HedgeMage> Xubuntu_User: I found this to be quite affordable and usable: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121642
[18:47] <Xubuntu_User> im not in the mood to buy new hardware to make ubuntu work better
[18:47] <Hedgework> ^^^ my non-work client
[18:48] <Hedgework> Meh, should have researched better. :P
[18:48] <xubuntu138> there is a problem with the xfdesktop 4.11
[18:48] <Xubuntu_User> oh wow
[18:49] <Hedgework> xubuntu138: thank you for being as vague as humanly possible so that we can't possibly help you. :P
[18:49] <Xubuntu_User> logged in to jefferyw in CTRL+ALT+F1
[18:49] <Xubuntu_User> did startx
[18:49] <Xubuntu_User> and computer froze up
[18:49] <Xubuntu_User> w0000000000000000000t
[18:49] <Xubuntu_User> (claps really loudly)
[18:49] <xubuntu138> I know, sorry, I want to say that there's a bug when you try to delete multiple files from desktop
[18:49] <elfy> slow delete?
[18:50]  * Hedgework awaits more details from xubuntu138
[18:50] <xubuntu138> no, no delete at all
[18:50] <xubuntu138> xubuntu 14.04
[18:50] <xubuntu138> create a folder on the desktop, put a file in it and try to delete with shift+del
[18:50] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: Well, I'm not sure what to tell you, that was a likely-to-go-wrong operation given that you use the proprietary NVIDIA stuff.
[18:50] <xubuntu138> see if you can
[18:51] <elfy> xubuntu138: it worked ok for me when I was using 14.04
[18:51] <xubuntu138> what has this to do with nvidia ?
[18:51] <elfy> there was a bug - I'll try and dig it out
[18:51] <Hedgework> I'm sure that whatever you were doing in wireshark can be redone, Xchat was (hopefully) logging (though I use a bouncer to avoid such problems), and firefox saves crashed sessions
[18:51] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: not sure about mousepad, I'm an old emacs curmudgeon
[18:51] <elfy> xubuntu138: not every thing said is going to be aimed at you
[18:51] <xubuntu138> if i try to delete it from thunar, it works
[18:52] <Hedgework> xubuntu138: You'll see that I prefaced that comment with the nickname of the user I was talking to.
[18:52] <Hedgework> ^^^just like that one
[18:52] <Hedgework> It's a common IRC convention.
[18:52] <Xubuntu_User> wait Xchat logs to a file :)
[18:52] <Hedgework> Xubuntu_User: yes, I said taht.
[18:52] <Hedgework> *that
[18:52] <Xubuntu_User> I can just reload that logfile
[18:52] <xubuntu138> this is happening on both 32bit and 64bit versions of xubuntu 14.04
[18:52]  * Hedgework goes back to @#$%ing around with her work
[18:53] <koegs> xubuntu138: works here
[18:53] <Hedgework> Kids these days!  He didn't even say "thank you".
[18:54] <xubuntu138> how come?
[18:54] <xubuntu138> here is not working
[18:54] <xubuntu138> it doesn't work since i installed it
[18:54] <Hedgework> xubuntu138: Usually what one might want to do in these situations is check the easy/obvious stuff, and if the problem is not found that way move on to figuring out what's different between your system and a working one.
[18:55] <koegs> i just tried in thunar... maybe you should start thunar via terminal and see if some error message occurs in the terminal
[18:55] <Hedgework> xubuntu138: For starters, are you aware of how to check the relevant file permissions from the command line?
[18:55] <elfy> I was positive I'd seen a bug for that
[18:55] <xubuntu138> thunar doesn't handle the desktop
[18:55] <xubuntu138> xfdesktop does
[18:55] <elfy> so much for memory
[18:55] <xubuntu138> and it doesn't ask for confirmation after pressing shift+del
[18:56] <koegs> ok, so maybe that might be different here, because i use awesomewm and can only test with thunar
[18:56] <elfy> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10857
[18:57] <xubuntu138> as you can see
[18:57] <xubuntu138> there is the 4.10 version of xfce, not the dev version 4.11
[18:57] <xubuntu138> so, it's not fixed
[18:58] <elfy> ok
[18:58] <elfy> still nothing anyone in here can do
[18:58] <elfy> I suspect you'll be able to delete said files in thunar
[18:59] <xubuntu138> i know, it's a xfce bug which Xubuntu waits to be fixed
[18:59] <xubuntu138> in thunar, yes, but not from the desktop
[19:00] <elfy> so if you know all that - why are you actually here?
[19:00] <xubuntu138> i guess you had a fix
[19:00] <xubuntu138> guessed
[19:00] <xubuntu138> ok, i'm out!
[19:36] <xubuntu173> i just want to say "thank you!"
[19:36] <Pici> you're welcome!
[19:43] <xubuntu173> i have tried debian, ubuntu(14.04), mint but xubuntu is running better on my pc
[19:44] <PCFutbol> me too
[19:44] <PCFutbol> xfce is the best desktop for my dual core
[19:50] <xubuntu173> yes... - all is about xfce
[19:54] <xubuntu173> keep working - i love you
[20:02] <GioVandal> n00b checking in...
[20:02] <GioVandal> typing...
[21:22] <downwater> hi
[21:23] <downwater> i'm trying to install xubuntu per xpe
[21:24] <downwater> isolinux/vesamenu.c32 and isolinux/menu.cfg in the cd cannot be used for this ?
[21:24] <downwater> in the tftpboot directory
[21:25] <downwater> oh wait
[21:25] <downwater> i'm watching http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1380081
[21:28] <koegs> downwater: you could either use the netboot.tar.gz for an installation or boot a live-cd via pxe
[21:44] <downwater> koegs, live-cd via pxe ? you mean, a live cd in the server ?
[21:45] <downwater> (i'm trying right now to use the files under the casper directory)
[21:45] <downwater> oh yes thanks koegs
[21:46] <downwater> if i can boot the cd from the server
[22:00] <glitchd> hello all
[22:00] <glitchd> looking for a lil help if possible
[22:00] <glitchd> cant seem to send things to the trash bin from the desktop
[22:00] <glitchd> the option is just missing from the right click menu
[22:01] <glitchd> but only on the desktop is it missing
[22:01] <glitchd> in thunar its in the right click menu
[22:02] <glitchd> anyone possibly know why this is happening or how to fix it?
[22:07] <glitchd> all these people in here and no one can give me any information?!
[22:07] <glitchd> wtf are all of u doing in here then??!
[22:08] <ObrienDave> they're not necessarily at the computer waiting to help someone
[22:09] <ObrienDave> or, nobody has a good answer for you
[22:09] <glitchd> hello all
[22:09] <glitchd> looking for a lil help if possible
[22:09] <ObrienDave> !patience | glitchd
[22:09] <glitchd> cant seem to send things to the trash bin from the desktop
[22:09] <ARM9> or they decided not to help you out of spite
[22:09] <ObrienDave> ^^
[22:09] <glitchd> ..?
[22:09] <Unit193> xfce Bug 10857
[22:10] <glitchd> the option is missing from the right click menu when selecting things to delete from the desktop
[22:10] <glitchd> this is recent
[22:10] <glitchd> like in the last week or so the option disappeared
[22:10] <glitchd> i can only delete completely
[22:10] <glitchd> nothing goes to the bin
[22:12] <glitchd> you people suck.
[22:12] <ObrienDave> thank you for that
[22:13] <ARM9> Another satisfied customer, next!
[22:23] <krysztal> Hi guys, I have quick question
[22:23] <ObrienDave> fire away
[22:23] <krysztal> Can I somehow restore old wallpaper switcher from xfce(that with brightness/saturation options)?
[22:25] <krysztal> From before 14.04
[22:26] <ObrienDave> no clue on that
[22:26] <krysztal> Okay :|