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| pitti | Bonjour tous le monde ! | 06:18 |
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| didrocks | bonjour pitti ! | 06:23 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, ça va ? | 06:26 |
| didrocks | ça va bien, et toi ? | 06:26 |
| pitti | didrocks: je vais grand ! c'était un miracle :) | 06:27 |
| didrocks | pitti: ah, il y a eu un match ? | 06:27 |
| * didrocks googles | 06:27 | |
| didrocks | 7-1, sérieux ? | 06:27 |
| pitti | didrocks: we won against Brazil, very tightly :) | 06:28 |
| didrocks | c'était du handball, pas du foot, non ? :p | 06:28 |
| pitti | didrocks: yeah, the first half was the best our team ever played - 5:0 | 06:28 |
| pitti | it was unbelievable, *everything* just worked | 06:28 |
| pitti | at least Brazil managed to get a goal in the 91st minute | 06:29 |
| didrocks | waow, I guess there are a lot of cries in Brazil after such a defeat | 06:29 |
| didrocks | ah, even worse :) | 06:29 |
| pitti | absolutely, yes | 06:29 |
| didrocks | really at the last minute they avoided the -0 | 06:29 |
| pitti | in the end, the Brazilian fans cheered for the German goals.. | 06:29 |
| didrocks | yeah, seems that google is telling they were approximately the same number of shoot in the goals | 06:30 |
| didrocks | so the German goal should have been very effective | 06:30 |
| didrocks | I understand why you are connecting later than usual :) | 06:30 |
| didrocks | good celebration! | 06:30 |
| pitti | didrocks: yeah, I only went to bed around midnight, and then couldn't sleep for some time | 06:42 |
| didrocks | heh, too much excitement I guess :) | 06:42 |
| pitti | didrocks: that, and all the car horning outside | 06:43 |
| didrocks | ahah, I bet! | 06:44 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 06:48 |
| seb128 | hey pitti didrocks | 06:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, well done for the game :-) | 06:48 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 06:49 |
| pitti | seb128: that's an understatement, but thanks! | 06:49 |
| didrocks | salut seb128! | 06:49 |
| pitti | at the 4:0 I thought they were showing a repetition, but in general it was quite incredible | 06:49 |
| pitti | like those 10 minutes in a player's life when just everything works | 06:50 |
| seb128 | right | 06:50 |
| seb128 | or doesn't work in the case of Brazil | 06:50 |
| seb128 | seems like it was not their day at the same time it was Germany's one | 06:50 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah; well, some things just can't be explained (or repeated) | 06:51 |
| seb128 | (let's see if they repeat that on sunday ;-) | 06:51 |
| pitti | seb128: see, that's the expectation of 80 million people which will ruin everything :) | 06:56 |
| pitti | seb128: nah, really good chances now | 06:56 |
| seb128 | right, first let's see who wins tonight | 06:58 |
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| Laney | hey | 08:02 |
| didrocks | hey Laney! | 08:04 |
| pitti | hey Laney | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey didrocks et pitti | 08:04 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:04 |
| didrocks | I'm great, thanks! Yourself? | 08:04 |
| Laney | sunny and warm here! | 08:04 |
| Laney | sehr gut, danke | 08:05 |
| * didrocks doesn't wonder anymore where the sun was stolen then… | 08:05 | |
| Eisbrecher_xnox | Morning =) | 08:05 |
| * Eisbrecher_xnox is in the office and it's full of CTS people | 08:05 | |
| pitti | yeah, it has rained pretty much non-stop since yesterday here too | 08:06 |
| pitti | o_O "Eisbrecher"? | 08:06 |
| Laney | pitti: can I mock bus activated services with dbusmock somehow? | 08:19 |
| pitti | Laney: you mean the activation part? I guess you could start a dbus daemon with a different .service dir and put an appropriate service file there? | 08:20 |
| pitti | Laney: but this pretty much sounds like a D-BUS internal, so I never bothered about that and just manually started the mocks | 08:21 |
| Eisbrecher_xnox | pitti: Das ist meine Familienname im Deutsch ;-) | 08:21 |
| pitti | Eisbrecher_xnox: really, "Ledkovs"? haha | 08:21 |
| Eisbrecher_xnox | pitti: *Ledkov, yeah. | 08:21 |
| pitti | Eisbrecher_xnox: ah, I thought the "original" one was | 08:21 |
| pitti | fun! | 08:22 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey ;-) | 08:23 |
| Laney | pitti: we had a bug where the application wasn't re-activating the service properly so I wanted to write a testcase for this | 08:23 |
| Laney | hey hey seb128 | 08:23 |
| Laney | how are you? | 08:23 |
| seb128 | Laney, good! a bit tired though, but working on it with coffee ;-) | 08:24 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 08:24 |
| pitti | Laney: hm, so dbusmock has no particular support for this, so I'm afraid you have to write the session.conf manually | 08:25 |
| pitti | Laney: happy to hear suggestions how to make this easier, of course | 08:25 |
| Laney | seb128: it's this new early morning regime :P | 08:25 |
| pitti | as newly self-declared German he now needs to get up at 6! | 08:26 |
| seb128 | Laney, well, things were alright, until that visa stuff kept me up until 1h30 (my fault for starting to look at what is needed exactly after the game at midnight) | 08:26 |
| * seb128 hates paperwork like that | 08:26 | |
| Laney | but yeah, I'm good | 08:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, lol | 08:26 |
| Laney | going to go out before lunch to print/fill in/submit that stuff | 08:26 |
| Laney | need to get a picture taken too | 08:27 |
| pitti | seb128: Visa? Où vas-tu ? | 08:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, China, going to visit the office and work a bit with Kylin | 08:28 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, fun! I've never been there either | 08:28 |
| Laney | pitti: I was thinking of an API which lets you register a callback to start a service | 08:29 |
| Laney | I guess the interesting part is emitting the NameOwnerChanged and other signals | 08:29 |
| pitti | Laney: your test can of course start and stop the mock whenever it likes | 08:34 |
| Laney | ya, I could do that and send the signals manually | 08:34 |
| pitti | but that's hard to hook into when the programunder test actually needs it | 08:35 |
| Laney | indeed | 08:35 |
| pitti | Laney: dbusmock already writes a dbus config file etc., perhaps some extra kwargs will make this easy? | 08:35 |
| Laney | pitti: I'll look into it a bit and get back to you | 08:37 |
| Laney | I think we'll end up having to write out .service files and specify a custom directory for those in the config file (assuming that's possible) | 08:38 |
| Laney | Might get a bit complicated | 08:38 |
| pitti | seb128: haha! http://www.google.de | 08:55 |
| pitti | (not sure if you can see that) | 08:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, dancing letters with german hats, etc? | 08:55 |
| pitti | yeah | 08:55 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:55 |
| ogra_ | lol | 08:56 |
| rsalveti | com.br is just pure and plain 'google' | 09:06 |
| rsalveti | hahah | 09:06 |
| Sweetshark | How many letters are in the word "Germany"? | 09:07 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, surprising ... since half the stadium cheered for germany in the end | 09:13 |
| seb128 | rsalveti, enough disappointment without having google mocking you | 09:13 |
| ogra_ | (which i found really awful) | 09:13 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: but still, it was really painful | 09:13 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 09:13 |
| rsalveti | never saw such disaster happening with our football | 09:14 |
| ogra_ | i still dont get why ... | 09:14 |
| ogra_ | its not like there were bad players on the field or anything ... | 09:14 |
| rsalveti | blame our coach, he thought he didn't have to improve the defense tactics when playing against germany | 09:14 |
| seb128 | well, the Brazil team has not been that strong in that worldcup | 09:15 |
| rsalveti | but I don't blame the players itself, the tactics was completely wrong | 09:15 |
| seb128 | they mainly relied on some keys players who were missing yesterdays | 09:15 |
| pitti | at some point this just isn't explicable any more, but I guess a good deal this is about having a ridiculous mental pressure and losing faith after the first goal | 09:15 |
| seb128 | that and got some luck/help from referees | 09:15 |
| rsalveti | yeah, tiago not playing made a huge difference | 09:16 |
| ogra_ | yup | 09:16 |
| rsalveti | more than neymar | 09:16 |
| pitti | but their defence was rather nonexisting indeed; it felt like Brazil kept half their team at the German goal to score and forgot to cover the German players | 09:16 |
| rsalveti | pitti: exactly | 09:16 |
| ogra_ | well, the neymar factor was psychological ... | 09:16 |
| ogra_ | and surely had a lot of impact too | 09:16 |
| pitti | well, Neymar might have scored more, but I guess the loss of Silva might have been much more important | 09:17 |
| rsalveti | yeah | 09:17 |
| ogra_ | even though he didnt really do much in many games | 09:17 |
| rsalveti | just unbelievable | 09:17 |
| pitti | well, it's again psychology; if your "captain" of defense isn't there, self-confidence suffers | 09:17 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 09:17 |
| pitti | and I suppose they were really eager to score early and often to revenge Neymar, and over that just forgot to defend | 09:18 |
| ogra_ | and the pressure "you need to compensate the star" from all sides in the press etc | 09:18 |
| rsalveti | yeah, they wanted to make the goal but forgot to defend | 09:18 |
| rsalveti | against... germany | 09:18 |
| rsalveti | lol | 09:18 |
| pitti | I suppose they wanted something like in the first minutes of second half very early on | 09:19 |
| pitti | where they had like 5 shoots at the goal | 09:20 |
| rsalveti | yeah | 09:20 |
| ogra_ | yup | 09:20 |
| rsalveti | but at that time the german team was already thinking about the next match | 09:20 |
| ogra_ | haha | 09:20 |
| pitti | rsalveti: anyway, good luck on Saturday! won't be much easier against Argentina or the Netherlands, but certainly not such a disaster again | 09:21 |
| rsalveti | haha, we'll see | 09:21 |
| ogra_ | yeah, no more pressure ... | 09:22 |
| ogra_ | and thiago is back | 09:22 |
| pitti | rsalveti: I still remember our amazement when Caesar caught 3 penalty shots | 09:22 |
| rsalveti | wow, someone won the bet: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsDl4dWIYAAJR4x.jpg | 09:22 |
| rsalveti | pitti: yeah, that was a great match | 09:23 |
| pitti | *shakes head* | 09:23 |
| ogra_ | khedira didnt score though, did he ? | 09:23 |
| pitti | sure he did | 09:23 |
| pitti | wasn't it the 5th? | 09:24 |
| ogra_ | oh, i only remember that he shot kroos in the back :) | 09:24 |
| ogra_ | there were so many goals :( | 09:24 |
| rsalveti | yeah, he did score | 09:24 |
| * ogra_ lost the overview | 09:24 | |
| pitti | ogra_: yeah, it chuckled when the status bar became too small and they had to scroll | 09:25 |
| ogra_ | haha, yeah | 09:25 |
| ogra_ | well, at least they could make use of that feature once :) | 09:25 |
| pitti | but weird on what things people bet | 09:25 |
| ogra_ | yup ... but he/she made a lot out of $20 :) | 09:26 |
| * ogra_ was only 4 goals off with his 3:1 prediction ... | 09:28 | |
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| davmor2 | ogra_: yeah but I bet that seb128 is permanently based your side of the river for now :) It would be nice to see an all European final. Especially as there is no rivalry between the Germans and Dutch right | 11:58 |
| ogra_ | heh, yeah, no rivalry evar :P | 11:59 |
| * ogra_ really wishes for arg in the final ... that means we have all of brazil behind us against them ;) | 11:59 | |
| davmor2 | ogra_: hahaha | 12:00 |
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| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Hi! What are the next steps on getting the Trusty Compiz SRU promoted to -updates? I think sil2100 may have been working on this, but he didn't respond to my ping yesterday. | 13:00 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, hey | 13:01 |
| sil2100 | ChrisTownsend: hey! I might have missed that, yeah, I looked into it and it was strange that this bug was still tracked | 13:01 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html indicates it's 6 days old, so 1 day to wait, and 1 bug is not marked as validated | 13:01 |
| sil2100 | seb128: that bug shouldn't be there... | 13:01 |
| sil2100 | seb128: I think something strange happened with the changelog ;/ | 13:01 |
| seb128 | if that's a bug, just tag it verification-done and untag once it migrates | 13:01 |
| sil2100 | Ah, ok, such an override? | 13:02 |
| seb128 | well "override" | 13:02 |
| seb128 | it's just going to make it validated | 13:02 |
| sil2100 | ChrisTownsend: since I checked quickly and it seems that you have an UNRELEASED entry in your changelog contents besides the latest version, which is strange | 13:02 |
| ChrisTownsend | Right, that bug shouldn't be there. It was reverted and a new Compiz package was uploaded, but it seems the SRU tools don't take that into account. | 13:02 |
| seb128 | or tell the sru team to ignore it and do the copy | 13:02 |
| ChrisTownsend | sil2100: The UNRELEASED is due to some version bump stuff we needed to do. Since we are on the ci-train, we just can't bump the version and push to trunk. | 13:03 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Ok, thanks. Will wait until tomorrow then. | 13:04 |
| ChrisTownsend | sil2100: Thanks for looking into this. | 13:04 |
| sil2100 | ChrisTownsend: hm, what exactly was the problem when dealing with it with CI Train? You wanted to bump the version? | 13:09 |
| ChrisTownsend | sil2100: I realized I need to bump the version after we already started the ci-train process and we thought it better to add the version bump as a separate MP. This usually works in that it is all contained in one changelog stanza, but I think since we already had previous builds, it decided to create a separate stanza for just the version bump and left the previous stanza as UNRELEASED when it should have be | 13:12 |
| sil2100 | ChrisTownsend: yeah, so hm, the order of merges is also important so most probably in this case the version bump in the changelog should be the first merge on the list I guess | 13:17 |
| ChrisTownsend | sil2100: Yeah, could be that. | 13:18 |
| sil2100 | ChrisTownsend: I just hope the SRU team won't kill us for this | 13:19 |
| ChrisTownsend | sil2100: It's ok, I already got it approved from SRU team. | 13:19 |
| seb128 | yeah, that SRU is validated, should be ok | 13:19 |
| ChrisTownsend | The only thing is that they made me do the "needs verification" stuff in the bug since he couldn't run his tools in the new changelog stanza. | 13:20 |
| ChrisTownsend | Which is ok since this is the 3rd spin of the SRU:) | 13:21 |
| greyback | hey folks, I ran out of disk space and my dconf database has got corrupted | 13:23 |
| greyback | how do I reset it? | 13:23 |
| greyback | "Cannot open dconf database: invalid gvdb header" is the error I'm getting everywhere | 13:24 |
| seb128 | desrt, ^ | 13:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, what's the issue on http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/battery.png with the previous date data? you mean the | is not really aligned on the mark? | 13:28 |
| Laney | it turns back on itself | 13:30 |
| desrt | uh oh | 13:30 |
| seb128 | oh, you mean the curve itself | 13:30 |
| seb128 | wth | 13:30 |
| desrt | seb128: 0-length file in ~/.config/dconf ? | 13:30 |
| desrt | and if so, what is your weird filesystem config? | 13:31 |
| seb128 | desrt, you are asking the wrong person, I was just pinging | 13:31 |
| greyback | desrt: yep, user is size 0 | 13:31 |
| seb128 | Laney, and that doesn't happen with the previous version? | 13:31 |
| desrt | greyback: what fs setup? | 13:31 |
| greyback | desrt: home with encryptfs | 13:32 |
| desrt | sounds like a bug.... | 13:32 |
| Laney | seb128: don't know ... | 13:32 |
| Laney | you don't want to try and fix it? | 13:32 |
| greyback | desrt: who should I log it against? And how can I recover? Just delete that file? | 13:32 |
| seb128 | Laney, can you go back to the archive version and see if that still happens? | 13:32 |
| desrt | greyback: are there any other tmp files around there? | 13:32 |
| seb128 | Laney, I would if I could reproduce, no idea how to debug without having it | 13:33 |
| desrt | user.XXXXXX stuff? | 13:33 |
| greyback | desrt: no | 13:33 |
| desrt | :( | 13:33 |
| desrt | yes -- just delete it | 13:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, I hate upower, it gives me a charge record only since I woke up the laptop this morning | 13:33 |
| seb128 | so I don't have a yesterday history | 13:33 |
| Laney | well I can't unlock unity8 now | 13:33 |
| desrt | greyback: so dconf uses the universal fsync()-then-rename-over approach to replacing the database | 13:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, let me try on the phone | 13:34 |
| desrt | this is 'guaranteed safe', regardless of a crash at any point during the process | 13:34 |
| desrt | i guess ecryptfs is not geeting that guarantee correct | 13:34 |
| Laney | if I have to reboot then I will lose the data | 13:34 |
| seb128 | why? | 13:34 |
| seb128 | upower store those in /var that's not cleared over reboot | 13:34 |
| desrt | greyback: first i've heard of this problem with ecryptfs :( | 13:34 |
| greyback | desrt: oh well. Any idea what project might appreciate a bug? | 13:35 |
| desrt | ecryptfs, i guess | 13:35 |
| desrt | did you have a crash recently? | 13:35 |
| desrt | ie: improper shutdown | 13:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, :-( | 13:36 |
| seb128 | I don't have that reverse curve issue | 13:36 |
| Laney | it did keep the data after reboot | 13:37 |
| * Laney tries old version | 13:37 | |
| Laney | that one is normal ;-) | 13:38 |
| seb128 | :-((( | 13:39 |
| seb128 | hate the world | 13:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, if you revert the last chunk from the diff, does it fix it? | 13:40 |
| seb128 | Laney, I've no clue otherwise, I didn't change anything in the curve drawing, just in the axises | 13:40 |
| seb128 | that one looked like a typo, but maybe I misunderstood it | 13:41 |
| Laney | ummm that breaks the graph completely | 13:43 |
| seb128 | wth!? | 13:43 |
| seb128 | you graph doesn't even go back on a particular time | 13:43 |
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| Laney | ah wait | 13:46 |
| Laney | it does fix it, I just changed the wrong bit | 13:47 |
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| seb128 | Laney, k, thanks, i'm just going to revert that bit | 13:49 |
| Laney | I can't immediately work out why this is correct | 13:50 |
| Laney | I'm sure there is a bug here | 14:11 |
| seb128 | "here"? the charge curve? | 14:13 |
| Laney | yeah | 14:15 |
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| GunnarHj | Laney: Any hint on how you make a package clean up itself - and why? | 14:20 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules scroll down to clean | 14:22 |
| Laney | as for how: override_dh_auto_clean: and undo everything you did in there | 14:22 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Ok.. Can the fact that it's format 1.0 be related? Would it make a difference to switch to 3.0 (native)? | 14:24 |
| Laney | no | 14:24 |
| Laney | you can just add a target that removes all of the output files | 14:24 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Ok, I'll check it out. Thanks! | 14:25 |
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| Laney | hmm, the graph actually looks alright now | 16:28 |
| Laney | maybe whoever wrote it in the first place was actually right(!) | 16:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, you mean with the height/width revert? | 16:50 |
| Laney | yeah | 16:50 |
| seb128 | yeah | 16:51 |
| Laney | I thought it was stopping some distance out from the left side | 16:51 |
| Laney | but now with more data it fills the whole area | 16:51 |
| seb128 | it doesn't make much sense to me, but it works... | 16:51 |
| Laney | my theory was that it was drawing in a square | 16:51 |
| Laney | that now doesn't make sense | 16:51 |
| Laney | oh well | 16:51 |
| seb128 | yeah | 16:51 |
| seb128 | something to investigate at some point, maybe not today | 16:51 |
| seb128 | thanks for approving it btw ;-) | 16:52 |
| Laney | yw | 16:53 |
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| Laney | bye desktoppers! | 17:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, have a good evening | 17:28 |
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