=== thumper is now known as thumper-afk === thumper-afk is now known as thumper [06:18] Bonjour tous le monde ! [06:23] bonjour pitti ! [06:26] bonjour didrocks, ça va ? [06:26] ça va bien, et toi ? [06:27] didrocks: je vais grand ! c'était un miracle :) [06:27] pitti: ah, il y a eu un match ? [06:27] * didrocks googles [06:27] 7-1, sérieux ? [06:28] didrocks: we won against Brazil, very tightly :) [06:28] c'était du handball, pas du foot, non ? :p [06:28] didrocks: yeah, the first half was the best our team ever played - 5:0 [06:28] it was unbelievable, *everything* just worked [06:29] at least Brazil managed to get a goal in the 91st minute [06:29] waow, I guess there are a lot of cries in Brazil after such a defeat [06:29] ah, even worse :) [06:29] absolutely, yes [06:29] really at the last minute they avoided the -0 [06:29] in the end, the Brazilian fans cheered for the German goals.. [06:30] yeah, seems that google is telling they were approximately the same number of shoot in the goals [06:30] so the German goal should have been very effective [06:30] I understand why you are connecting later than usual :) [06:30] good celebration! [06:42] didrocks: yeah, I only went to bed around midnight, and then couldn't sleep for some time [06:42] heh, too much excitement I guess :) [06:43] didrocks: that, and all the car horning outside [06:44] ahah, I bet! [06:48] good morning desktopers! [06:48] hey pitti didrocks [06:48] pitti, well done for the game :-) [06:49] bonjour seb128 [06:49] seb128: that's an understatement, but thanks! [06:49] salut seb128! [06:49] at the 4:0 I thought they were showing a repetition, but in general it was quite incredible [06:50] like those 10 minutes in a player's life when just everything works [06:50] right [06:50] or doesn't work in the case of Brazil [06:50] seems like it was not their day at the same time it was Germany's one [06:51] seb128: yeah; well, some things just can't be explained (or repeated) [06:51] (let's see if they repeat that on sunday ;-) [06:56] seb128: see, that's the expectation of 80 million people which will ruin everything :) [06:56] seb128: nah, really good chances now [06:58] right, first let's see who wins tonight === oCrazyLem is now known as CrazyLemon [08:02] hey [08:04] hey Laney! [08:04] hey Laney [08:04] hey didrocks et pitti [08:04] how's it going? [08:04] I'm great, thanks! Yourself? [08:04] sunny and warm here! [08:05] sehr gut, danke [08:05] * didrocks doesn't wonder anymore where the sun was stolen then… [08:05] Morning =) [08:05] * Eisbrecher_xnox is in the office and it's full of CTS people [08:06] yeah, it has rained pretty much non-stop since yesterday here too [08:06] o_O "Eisbrecher"? [08:19] pitti: can I mock bus activated services with dbusmock somehow? [08:20] Laney: you mean the activation part? I guess you could start a dbus daemon with a different .service dir and put an appropriate service file there? [08:21] Laney: but this pretty much sounds like a D-BUS internal, so I never bothered about that and just manually started the mocks [08:21] pitti: Das ist meine Familienname im Deutsch ;-) [08:21] Eisbrecher_xnox: really, "Ledkovs"? haha [08:21] pitti: *Ledkov, yeah. [08:21] Eisbrecher_xnox: ah, I thought the "original" one was [08:22] fun! [08:23] Laney, hey ;-) [08:23] pitti: we had a bug where the application wasn't re-activating the service properly so I wanted to write a testcase for this [08:23] hey hey seb128 [08:23] how are you? [08:24] Laney, good! a bit tired though, but working on it with coffee ;-) [08:24] how are you? [08:25] Laney: hm, so dbusmock has no particular support for this, so I'm afraid you have to write the session.conf manually [08:25] Laney: happy to hear suggestions how to make this easier, of course [08:25] seb128: it's this new early morning regime :P [08:26] as newly self-declared German he now needs to get up at 6! [08:26] Laney, well, things were alright, until that visa stuff kept me up until 1h30 (my fault for starting to look at what is needed exactly after the game at midnight) [08:26] * seb128 hates paperwork like that [08:26] but yeah, I'm good [08:26] pitti, lol [08:26] going to go out before lunch to print/fill in/submit that stuff [08:27] need to get a picture taken too [08:27] seb128: Visa? Où vas-tu ? [08:28] pitti, China, going to visit the office and work a bit with Kylin [08:28] seb128: oh, fun! I've never been there either [08:29] pitti: I was thinking of an API which lets you register a callback to start a service [08:29] I guess the interesting part is emitting the NameOwnerChanged and other signals [08:34] Laney: your test can of course start and stop the mock whenever it likes [08:34] ya, I could do that and send the signals manually [08:35] but that's hard to hook into when the programunder test actually needs it [08:35] indeed [08:35] Laney: dbusmock already writes a dbus config file etc., perhaps some extra kwargs will make this easy? [08:37] pitti: I'll look into it a bit and get back to you [08:38] I think we'll end up having to write out .service files and specify a custom directory for those in the config file (assuming that's possible) [08:38] Might get a bit complicated [08:55] seb128: haha! http://www.google.de [08:55] (not sure if you can see that) [08:55] pitti, dancing letters with german hats, etc? [08:55] yeah [08:55] ;-) [08:56] lol [09:06] com.br is just pure and plain 'google' [09:06] hahah [09:07] How many letters are in the word "Germany"? [09:13] rsalveti, surprising ... since half the stadium cheered for germany in the end [09:13] rsalveti, enough disappointment without having google mocking you [09:13] (which i found really awful) [09:13] ogra_: but still, it was really painful [09:13] yeah [09:14] never saw such disaster happening with our football [09:14] i still dont get why ... [09:14] its not like there were bad players on the field or anything ... [09:14] blame our coach, he thought he didn't have to improve the defense tactics when playing against germany [09:15] well, the Brazil team has not been that strong in that worldcup [09:15] but I don't blame the players itself, the tactics was completely wrong [09:15] they mainly relied on some keys players who were missing yesterdays [09:15] at some point this just isn't explicable any more, but I guess a good deal this is about having a ridiculous mental pressure and losing faith after the first goal [09:15] that and got some luck/help from referees [09:16] yeah, tiago not playing made a huge difference [09:16] yup [09:16] more than neymar [09:16] but their defence was rather nonexisting indeed; it felt like Brazil kept half their team at the German goal to score and forgot to cover the German players [09:16] pitti: exactly [09:16] well, the neymar factor was psychological ... [09:16] and surely had a lot of impact too [09:17] well, Neymar might have scored more, but I guess the loss of Silva might have been much more important [09:17] yeah [09:17] even though he didnt really do much in many games [09:17] just unbelievable [09:17] well, it's again psychology; if your "captain" of defense isn't there, self-confidence suffers [09:17] yeah [09:18] and I suppose they were really eager to score early and often to revenge Neymar, and over that just forgot to defend [09:18] and the pressure "you need to compensate the star" from all sides in the press etc [09:18] yeah, they wanted to make the goal but forgot to defend [09:18] against... germany [09:18] lol [09:19] I suppose they wanted something like in the first minutes of second half very early on [09:20] where they had like 5 shoots at the goal [09:20] yeah [09:20] yup [09:20] but at that time the german team was already thinking about the next match [09:20] haha [09:21] rsalveti: anyway, good luck on Saturday! won't be much easier against Argentina or the Netherlands, but certainly not such a disaster again [09:21] haha, we'll see [09:22] yeah, no more pressure ... [09:22] and thiago is back [09:22] rsalveti: I still remember our amazement when Caesar caught 3 penalty shots [09:22] wow, someone won the bet: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsDl4dWIYAAJR4x.jpg [09:23] pitti: yeah, that was a great match [09:23] *shakes head* [09:23] khedira didnt score though, did he ? [09:23] sure he did [09:24] wasn't it the 5th? [09:24] oh, i only remember that he shot kroos in the back :) [09:24] there were so many goals :( [09:24] yeah, he did score [09:24] * ogra_ lost the overview [09:25] ogra_: yeah, it chuckled when the status bar became too small and they had to scroll [09:25] haha, yeah [09:25] well, at least they could make use of that feature once :) [09:25] but weird on what things people bet [09:26] yup ... but he/she made a lot out of $20 :) [09:28] * ogra_ was only 4 goals off with his 3:1 prediction ... === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:58] ogra_: yeah but I bet that seb128 is permanently based your side of the river for now :) It would be nice to see an all European final. Especially as there is no rivalry between the Germans and Dutch right [11:59] heh, yeah, no rivalry evar :P [11:59] * ogra_ really wishes for arg in the final ... that means we have all of brazil behind us against them ;) [12:00] ogra_: hahaha === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:00] seb128: Hi! What are the next steps on getting the Trusty Compiz SRU promoted to -updates? I think sil2100 may have been working on this, but he didn't respond to my ping yesterday. [13:01] ChrisTownsend, hey [13:01] ChrisTownsend: hey! I might have missed that, yeah, I looked into it and it was strange that this bug was still tracked [13:01] ChrisTownsend, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html indicates it's 6 days old, so 1 day to wait, and 1 bug is not marked as validated [13:01] seb128: that bug shouldn't be there... [13:01] seb128: I think something strange happened with the changelog ;/ [13:01] if that's a bug, just tag it verification-done and untag once it migrates [13:02] Ah, ok, such an override? [13:02] well "override" [13:02] it's just going to make it validated [13:02] ChrisTownsend: since I checked quickly and it seems that you have an UNRELEASED entry in your changelog contents besides the latest version, which is strange [13:02] Right, that bug shouldn't be there. It was reverted and a new Compiz package was uploaded, but it seems the SRU tools don't take that into account. [13:02] or tell the sru team to ignore it and do the copy [13:03] sil2100: The UNRELEASED is due to some version bump stuff we needed to do. Since we are on the ci-train, we just can't bump the version and push to trunk. [13:04] seb128: Ok, thanks. Will wait until tomorrow then. [13:04] sil2100: Thanks for looking into this. [13:09] ChrisTownsend: hm, what exactly was the problem when dealing with it with CI Train? You wanted to bump the version? [13:12] sil2100: I realized I need to bump the version after we already started the ci-train process and we thought it better to add the version bump as a separate MP. This usually works in that it is all contained in one changelog stanza, but I think since we already had previous builds, it decided to create a separate stanza for just the version bump and left the previous stanza as UNRELEASED when it should have be [13:17] ChrisTownsend: yeah, so hm, the order of merges is also important so most probably in this case the version bump in the changelog should be the first merge on the list I guess [13:18] sil2100: Yeah, could be that. [13:19] ChrisTownsend: I just hope the SRU team won't kill us for this [13:19] sil2100: It's ok, I already got it approved from SRU team. [13:19] yeah, that SRU is validated, should be ok [13:20] The only thing is that they made me do the "needs verification" stuff in the bug since he couldn't run his tools in the new changelog stanza. [13:21] Which is ok since this is the 3rd spin of the SRU:) [13:23] hey folks, I ran out of disk space and my dconf database has got corrupted [13:23] how do I reset it? [13:24] "Cannot open dconf database: invalid gvdb header" is the error I'm getting everywhere [13:28] desrt, ^ [13:28] Laney, what's the issue on http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/battery.png with the previous date data? you mean the | is not really aligned on the mark? [13:30] it turns back on itself [13:30] uh oh [13:30] oh, you mean the curve itself [13:30] wth [13:30] seb128: 0-length file in ~/.config/dconf ? [13:31] and if so, what is your weird filesystem config? [13:31] desrt, you are asking the wrong person, I was just pinging [13:31] desrt: yep, user is size 0 [13:31] Laney, and that doesn't happen with the previous version? [13:31] greyback: what fs setup? [13:32] desrt: home with encryptfs [13:32] sounds like a bug.... [13:32] seb128: don't know ... [13:32] you don't want to try and fix it? [13:32] desrt: who should I log it against? And how can I recover? Just delete that file? [13:32] Laney, can you go back to the archive version and see if that still happens? [13:32] greyback: are there any other tmp files around there? [13:33] Laney, I would if I could reproduce, no idea how to debug without having it [13:33] user.XXXXXX stuff? [13:33] desrt: no [13:33] :( [13:33] yes -- just delete it [13:33] Laney, I hate upower, it gives me a charge record only since I woke up the laptop this morning [13:33] so I don't have a yesterday history [13:33] well I can't unlock unity8 now [13:33] greyback: so dconf uses the universal fsync()-then-rename-over approach to replacing the database [13:34] Laney, let me try on the phone [13:34] this is 'guaranteed safe', regardless of a crash at any point during the process [13:34] i guess ecryptfs is not geeting that guarantee correct [13:34] if I have to reboot then I will lose the data [13:34] why? [13:34] upower store those in /var that's not cleared over reboot [13:34] greyback: first i've heard of this problem with ecryptfs :( [13:35] desrt: oh well. Any idea what project might appreciate a bug? [13:35] ecryptfs, i guess [13:35] did you have a crash recently? [13:35] ie: improper shutdown [13:36] Laney, :-( [13:36] I don't have that reverse curve issue [13:37] it did keep the data after reboot [13:37] * Laney tries old version [13:38] that one is normal ;-) [13:39] :-((( [13:39] hate the world [13:40] Laney, if you revert the last chunk from the diff, does it fix it? [13:40] Laney, I've no clue otherwise, I didn't change anything in the curve drawing, just in the axises [13:41] that one looked like a typo, but maybe I misunderstood it [13:43] ummm that breaks the graph completely [13:43] wth!? [13:43] you graph doesn't even go back on a particular time === larsu_ is now known as larsu [13:46] ah wait [13:47] it does fix it, I just changed the wrong bit === linuxturtle is now known as jbrett === Noskcaj_ is now known as Noskcaj [13:49] Laney, k, thanks, i'm just going to revert that bit [13:50] I can't immediately work out why this is correct [14:11] I'm sure there is a bug here [14:13] "here"? the charge curve? [14:15] yeah === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:20] Laney: Any hint on how you make a package clean up itself - and why? [14:22] GunnarHj: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules scroll down to clean [14:22] as for how: override_dh_auto_clean: and undo everything you did in there [14:24] Laney: Ok.. Can the fact that it's format 1.0 be related? Would it make a difference to switch to 3.0 (native)? [14:24] no [14:24] you can just add a target that removes all of the output files [14:25] Laney: Ok, I'll check it out. Thanks! === pitti is now known as pitti_ === pitti is now known as pitti__ === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [16:28] hmm, the graph actually looks alright now [16:29] maybe whoever wrote it in the first place was actually right(!) [16:50] Laney, you mean with the height/width revert? [16:50] yeah [16:51] yeah [16:51] I thought it was stopping some distance out from the left side [16:51] but now with more data it fills the whole area [16:51] it doesn't make much sense to me, but it works... [16:51] my theory was that it was drawing in a square [16:51] that now doesn't make sense [16:51] oh well [16:51] yeah [16:51] something to investigate at some point, maybe not today [16:52] thanks for approving it btw ;-) [16:53] yw === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark [17:12] bye desktoppers! [17:28] Laney, have a good evening === lifeless1 is now known as lifeless === pesari_ is now known as pesari === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away